assassination

[rugged basalt]

I put reinstalling gms on my calendar for August

[balmy condor]

and then you level a new character a month later

and you go OHHHHHHHHH

THATS THE BITCH

THIS IS THE BACKSTORY TO THAT BITCH

[dire flume]

for me its currently down to corsair, buccaneer, marksman and i think thats it

[rugged basalt]

The last char I felt that for was like

Shade

[balmy condor]

I'm a fan of bucc and marksman, corsair I hear has gotten a lot less janky

[rugged basalt]

Is that the name? I think it is

[balmy condor]

yeah shade has a lot of backstory

[rugged basalt]

I was like holy shit this runs deep

[balmy condor]

also unironically one of the most tragic stories

I was tearing up when I first played through it

[rugged basalt]

likewise

12yo me knew it was real

[balmy condor]

kain was also brutal

[knotty vapor]

@balmy condor https://x.com/i/status/2048590085616980433

Ainastrasza | ᚨᛊᚺᛚᛖᛃ (@Ainastrasza)

I saw this on the D4 subreddit. The absolute state of Icy Veins, jesus christ. This is embarassing.

X · Apr 27, 2026, 2:28 AM

[balmy condor]

yes

seen that a bunch already

[rugged basalt]

Is that the amnesiac

[balmy condor]

unlucky

[knotty vapor]

@balmy condor did u see the icyveins post about diablo 4 and ARTIFICIAL JNTELLT

[radiant raven]

I wish it was Diablo day

[balmy condor]

I mean, in the situation where "amnesiac" in this case is his memory getting wiped by a really shitty dude that's basically running the gestapo and oppressing an entire civilization

yes, that's the amnesiac

[balmy condor]

boy do I have news for you

[haughty flicker]

Kains story is rough yeah

Also Ren

[radiant raven]

It's not Diaablo day until tomorrow though 🙁

[rugged basalt]

More positive tweet from the same person https://x.com/ainastrasza/status/2048132025941455043

Ainastrasza | ᚨᛊᚺᛚᛖᛃ (@Ainastrasza)

We could've at least gotten a 13-minute long cutscene of Lady Liadrin and Lady Darkglen having absolutely filthy lesbian sex to celebrate this Elven Unity stuff, but no Blizzard couldn't even do that for us. We're so oppressed.

X · Apr 25, 2026, 8:08 PM

[balmy condor]

ren is despair indeed

it's so happy

and then you just

[knotty vapor]

God that's so fucking real

Wow needs more sex scenes

[balmy condor]

I'm not really interested in all this girl kissing nonsense, where's the toes at

[knotty vapor]

Boykissers be like

[rugged basalt]

Ugh wish there was a weakaura called feetaura that showed up whenever the affix showed up in dungeons

[knotty vapor]

There's that one macro

That puts her feet on your screen

Just macro that to all your abilities

[radiant raven]

When is Wrathion going to turn up in the story again

[rugged basalt]

Atp you can just tape paper on your screen

Or use a non game overlay

[haughty flicker]

Can't wait for wrathion and faerin to fight over anduin

[cunning needle]

i miss that weakaura

[knotty vapor]

Boutta vibe code a new app that puts xalatoes on your screen forcing you to stop what your doing and jork it

At random

[rugged basalt]

I didn’t know that was an actual wa but I believe it

I’m making Clowning Death later today

[cunning needle]

yeah and it'd light up when you did the affix

all 10 toes

[rugged basalt]

Open to name suggestions

[knotty vapor]

https://fixvx.com/i/status/2048405074414539145

NZ ☄️ (@CodeByNZ)

THIS IS LOWKEY GENIUS 🔥

A FAT CAT BLOCKS YOUR SCREEN TILL YOU FINALLY TAKE A BREAK

▶ Play video

vxTwitter / fixvx · Apr 26, 2026, 2:13 PM

[cunning needle]

when you cc each mob

[knotty vapor]

This but xalatoes

[balmy condor]

I can just do this in maplestory by taking a boat ride from six path crossway to oribos

cause I forget how the quick move works

[rugged basalt]

Every time you die a big foot slides across the screen toe pointing towards the Accept or Release button

[dire flume]

only 13 minutes is borderline homophobic

[balmy condor]

boat rides used to have actual fucking travel time

insane

[humble verge]

honestly this is me when i need to do weeklies on my alts

[rugged basalt]

Alt? What’s that

[knotty vapor]

I logged into my priest today...

[rugged basalt]

[humble verge]

i have 15 rogues

[knotty vapor]

Dunno why

[balmy condor]

to spread the holy word?

[radiant raven]

What about 16th rogue then

[jolly stirrup]

Fuck it, we Talkessel about Ramen earlier, imma get Ramen after work

Why thanks autocorrect

Talked avout

[balmy condor]

TALKESSEL

[knotty vapor]

I did 2 7s then logged out because wait actually it's not a rogue and that's cringe

[rugged basalt]

My lemix rogue Suhnapple is never seeing the light of day

[jolly stirrup]

I dont even fucking know what that is

[balmy condor]

KOMM MIT ALTER WIR GEHEN INS RUHRGEBIET DA GIBTS FRISCHE FISCHE VOM FISCHERS FRITZ

[knotty vapor]

Bless you

[humble verge]

why did u not do 6 7s

[knotty vapor]

👎

[humble verge]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HD0OZzfboAEidRg.webp

[rugged basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-yachty-censored-not-drake-tech-support-gif-8658410013845332703

[humble verge]

whispyr writing blogpost rn

[balmy condor]

kennst ein Tal? Und ein Kessel? Talkessel is halt eben wenn ein tal einen kessel hat

[humble verge]

nvm

[balmy condor]

tirol

[knotty vapor]

Da fricking heck he sayin

[balmy condor]

hat nen talkessel

[knotty vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/boykisser-gif-2902151694417461533

[balmy condor]

is halt ne schüssel

[knotty vapor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/975632433804349440/1458323475176620167/c8x70h10i5me1.gif

[humble verge]

priest forgets to buff be like

[jolly stirrup]

Checke, danke Chef

[balmy condor]

https://tenor.com/view/youve-got-to-be-squidding-me-its-as-shrimple-as-that-shrimple-squid-gif-26786461

[golden loom]

@balmy condor thoughts on my current duolingo streak?

[knotty vapor]

Im bad at healing because I'm not used to playing a class that has to think about other people and their wants and needs

[jolly stirrup]

Sehr gut, wie ist dein jetziger Stand?

[balmy condor]

gerne, war mal übersetzer

[normal mist]

I also play without raid/party frames

[balmy condor]

habs nie genutzt

[jolly stirrup]

Also qualifizierter Übersetzer?

[balmy condor]

genau

[jolly stirrup]

Warum nie benutzt?

[knotty vapor]

They really made the default raid frames anchor to the left so it grows to the right instead of outwards both ways. So now I have to have 4 presets saved for different raid sizes to keep the frames centered on my screen

[balmy condor]

ja wie viele leute brauchen einen 16yr alten wichser als deutsch-english übersetzer

[knotty vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/sanae-kochiya-touhou-frogs-miracles-emotional-gif-2880155193418112042

[balmy condor]

war auch schon vor 10yr, bin nimmer so

is ok

[dire flume]

smh, rules for we and not for thee

The official language of this server is English, repeated or extended conversation in any other language is heavily frowned upon.

[jolly stirrup]

Wenn die Qualifikationen stimmen juckt mich doch nicht wie alt du bist

[dire flume]

tut tut

[balmy condor]

I'll fucking ban you mate 1v1 me tik-tac-toe in maplestory

[knotty vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/iron-deficiency-one-piece-fall-hit-the-wall-gif-14474433429156434337

[jolly stirrup]

Dieser Server ist nun Eigentum der Bundesrepublik Deutschland

[balmy condor]

which is something you can do in that game

for reasons

[jolly stirrup]

[dire flume]

tic tac toe might be one of the most heavily unbalanced games ever produced

[knotty vapor]

Yeah X always wins

[balmy condor]

true, I'm gonna go play blackjack instead

[knotty vapor]

O is for losers

[radiant raven]

tic tac toe is too hard for raid tanks to play

[jolly stirrup]

When Ravenhold Poker night?

[iron thorn]

I open assa chat, I see whispyr write in German.

[knotty vapor]

He's so fucking real for that

[golden loom]

Ich habe 7 jahre deutsch in der schule gelernt, aber ich kann nur sagen "ich liebe meinen katze" cause of duolingo

[balmy condor]

ja und

[knotty vapor]

https://fixvx.com/i/status/2048567898411585667

🎞️ shitposts.mp4 🎞️ (@shitposts_mp4)

https://t.co/xsyRhuE45y

▶ Play video

vxTwitter / fixvx · Apr 27, 2026, 1:00 AM

[balmy condor]

passt doch

[iron thorn]

Is okay, flex nich so

Always funny seeing non-German people chat in my language. Just never expect it

[jolly stirrup]

Mehr brauchst du nicht

[golden loom]

My teacher once called me a "sofakartoffel" and that was it for me

[balmy condor]

woah woah woah

who tf you calling non-german

[knotty vapor]

My dad used to yell in German when he wanted us to get our asses in gear. Except he didn't know German and wasn't from Germany, in hindsight it was very odd...

[iron thorn]

Okay either you’re gonna surprise me now and tell me you’re legit German or the American, my ancestors who came over with the mayflower were half German

[balmy condor]

I’m a first generation American

[iron thorn]

[jolly stirrup]

Entschuldigung???

[iron thorn]

Assa chat always has surprises

[balmy condor]

my family has lived in baden württemberg for legit 600 years

my ancestors built the fucking walls mate

[knotty vapor]

Does that mean you automatically root for liquid, or do you stick to echo like your ancestors would want

[balmy condor]

neither

I root for individuals

[real pike]

Love waking up to some realness on a Monday morning

[dire flume]

rogue doesnt have a root?

[balmy condor]

because supporting either of those shitty corpos is kinda whacko

[knotty vapor]

I root for max because he's brian is larg

[real pike]

From which side

[balmy condor]

one has the whole pedophile and sexual abuser thing, one has the pedophile and sexual abuser thing, and one has insane racism

not really a great option out there

[knotty vapor]

Well that's not good

[iron thorn]

Now to find out which is which (as if it was that hard)

[balmy condor]

idk but its got a moat too

[crude wigeon]

Get mogged

[balmy condor]

and we're the city where kepler was born

🔭

[golden loom]

Wtf

[radiant raven]

I want a comedy option random pug to suddenly get a world first kill someday. It's gonna happen. Someday.

[balmy condor]

🌝

[real pike]

That's a pretty sick nest thing

[knotty vapor]

When I grow up I'm gonna dig a poop moat around my house

[dire flume]

"we're" when you're american

:icant:

[crude wigeon]

Duolingo is not real he cant hurt you

[balmy condor]

I have german citzenship, I speak the language, I was a licensed translator, I go back every year to visit family for 5 weeks, I speak the dialect of my region, there's a family owned restaurant that I served customers and helped cook in for the last 20 years, I pay property taxes on land I own in that city which I've inherited from my relatives

what do you want from me

[golden loom]

We just randomly made a bet with a few friends to get a year streak of German this year, failers have to wear a duncecap when we go out drinking on Christmas

[balmy condor]

do I need to wear lederhosen and jump around like a fucking monkey

[radiant raven]

Damn, being a licensed translator is hella cool

[haughty flicker]

Yes please

[real pike]

There's good money in being an interpretor

[balmy condor]

so yes, I'm gonna say "we're"

because that's my heritage, my culture

and my land

[radiant raven]

I'm always in awe of people who can professionally work with multiple languages

[real pike]

The only German word I need to know is shadenfreude

[jolly stirrup]

Fak, I cant get Ramen today, i have a doctors appointment

[crude wigeon]

I randomly started and this is like crack

[real pike]

Schadenfreude?

[jolly stirrup]

Missing a c there

[jolly stirrup]

There we go

[golden loom]

I am finnish and I dont even speak finnish

[real pike]

Need to rewatch Avenue Q

[radiant raven]

hell yeah finnish

Finnish is a cool language.

[dire flume]

yes

[golden loom]

Yeah I just cant write or speak it

Swedishspeaking finn

[dire flume]

i also need to see you in a mesh shirt in a eurobeat club

[crude wigeon]

Any game of thrones freaks here

Im thinking of learning valyrian on duolingo

Ts is useless in real life unfortunately

[real pike]

Whispyr x Berghain collab when

[iron thorn]

I have the dohtraki book at home and damn that’s a sick language

[crude wigeon]

Ah yes the horse fuckers

[iron thorn]

But let me tell you, as a teacher, you don’t necessarily LEARN a language on Duolingo

[golden loom]

I speed run it in 60 seconds to make number go up

[iron thorn]

That’s the point

[humble verge]

duolingo

[iron thorn]

And it can be fun

[golden loom]

I would probably get some value of doing finnish duolingo tho but instead im doing german for a stupid bet

[radiant raven]

I did a lot of russian duolingo and that was fun.

[iron thorn]

Idk I speak German and English fluently

Had 6yrs of French in school which is mostly lost but I understand it still

Basic conversational in Norwegian

[dire flume]

i did french on duolingo for like 2 years and i think i learned less than i did in the half a year i did in primary school

[iron thorn]

And I HAD to waste some time to learn Latin to become an English teacher

[radiant raven]

My workplace has multiple language groups. Informal customer run things where they come in and just practice convrsational <x> language. It owns to listen too.

[crude wigeon]

Ive had german for 8 years and i just barely passed

i hate that language with a burning passion

[iron thorn]

Bestanden ist bestanden

[crude wigeon]

i can tell you Whats my name and when my bday is thats about it

[crude wigeon]

Big truers

[golden loom]

I am just chilling my whole life not knowing the mothertounge of 94% of the country

[iron thorn]

I mean does it really matter?

Isn’t Swedish like almost finlands 2nd official language

[golden loom]

Currently? Not really but it does kinda suck

I mean yeah it is "officially"

But the difference is so big between the languages

[iron thorn]

As long as you can say perkele it’s enough lol

[golden loom]

So it just ends up in english

I mean all my friends are swedish speaking obviously since I went to a Swedish speaking elementary/high school and university

Does fuck over job opportunities tho to not be fluent

[iron thorn]

It was so funny when I went to Bergen and just ordered in Norwegian but then had to switch to English after not understanding the waitress 3x

Because the dialects varied too much simply

After learning like standard Oslo dialect

[golden loom]

Alle elsker bergen

[normal mist]

Any Portuguese speakers in the chat?

I swear we're relevant

[brave gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/sid-seixeiro-bt-breakfast-tv-bt-toronto-sid-gif-27534072

[still nymph]

@balmy condor can you explain to me why my CT didnt spread my rupture but it did spread my garrote on dragons?
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/wjQ3KJY79dWHV2Rf?fight=30&playermetric=hps&type=damage-done&start=7579257&end=7592082&source=3&ability=1247227

[balmy condor]

bug

it just do that sometimes idk

[timid quarry]

Ct dosnt spread as well as it should why?

[balmy condor]

idk how to answer that question

[still nymph]

alright, so its a known bug?

[rugged basalt]

I think it still spreads bleeds weirdly sometimes, such as rupture going to target b and garrote going to target c

[balmy condor]

yes

[rugged basalt]

I didn’t know the spread just doesn’t occur sometimes

[balmy condor]

it's pretty low impact

the targetting is just weird

sometimes it fizzles

usually it's fine

[still nymph]

yeah i know that it does that. but the missing bleeds happened from time to time and i went insane. but i finally got a log with it :D

[balmy condor]

worst case scenario you hit ct another time

[still nymph]

if i notice it, because my whole screen is just damn dragon wings and i expect it to work xD

[rugged basalt]

It’s not a parry or a dodge, it’s in range

It’s seemingly not explainable to me aside from “guh no worky”

[still nymph]

yeah it dealt dmg to both in my log, just didnt spread

time to reroll i guess, cant play like this /s

oh and once again thanks for the answer Whispyr <3

[humble verge]

fake news

wait are you living in Bergen now uwu

[golden loom]

No its just a song lyric

[golden loom]

Bergen 2018 🔥 🔥
(Yes we listen to norwegian russe music in finland)

[humble verge]

ive not done any work today it feels like

ivexbeen here 2,5h

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HDuYGGwXUAEvDLe.gif

[rugged basalt]

It’s 11 already holy moly

[golden loom]

I woke up at 6:30 -> clocked in and snoozed to 7:30

[humble verge]

clocked in

[golden loom]

Hopefully my boss doesnt read that!

[humble verge]

bro living in the 60d

60s

i just get here, open my laptop and snooze in my chair

[golden loom]

It automatically puts the 8 hours even if I dont clock in

[humble verge]

[golden loom]

But I just do it so incase I work a few min over I gain those minutes!

[humble verge]

gain for whuat

overtime or

[golden loom]

Yeah I mean we have saldo

So if I wanna work like 6 hours one day thats -2 hours

Or if I work 10 min overtime thats +10min gained

[rugged basalt]

Just eu things

They track badged in hours if u go in person here

[warm vortex]

Hmmm

What is he thinking

[warm vortex]

…..

[warm vortex]

dGot this one saved too

peak

[static glacier]

what's the centre object

[warm vortex]

Nah

big boy (idk his name) would just look at yo uand go

"nyah hah!"

[humble verge]

idk

[humble verge]

🤨 😡 😤

[warm vortex]

???

What you mean

[humble verge]

una

yaha

[warm vortex]

Ohh

that's it's name?

[rugged basalt]

It sounds like a korok when it’s discovered

[static glacier]

I swear this channel is on drugs

nothing else explains it

[static glacier]

doesnt is best

[worldly sail]

https://klipy.com/gifs/chii-kawa-chiikawa-1--k01KQ7423K3VXRZ13X1ZC2M2R2C

[humble verge]

no

[keen spruce]

unnnnnaaaaa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kdWrsg0l0I

[vernal adder]

Balding

[keen spruce]

can someone read me a bed time story

[vernal adder]

I cant read sry

[warm vortex]

ooo! saggee!

[dire flume]

didnt realise this universe had monster hunting

[keen spruce]

crazy side quest in the show about small woodland creatures having picnics

[dire flume]

theres knights with teeth as well

[humble verge]

i mean thats the premise, they live in a monster type world and are there to defeat them kind of

[sharp viper]

legit better animation than TBATE

[solemn breach]

Eh my dudes is there any video I can watch to understand the energy refresh in single and multi with assa pls?? :)(

[jolly stirrup]

https://www.kkinstagram.com/p/DW7XZNHjzcx/?igsh=cjM5NTR0ZHE4am50

Me

[grim jay]

Atleast its not in the water!

[frosty cedar]

Is there something about it you don't understand specifically? Feel free to ask here

[worthy heath]

Hy guys, devourer main here levelling my rogue to play phys comps with my pals. I'm debating between learning sub / assa. Could you share the pros and cons to both specs? I realise enjoyment is a factor too but ill figure that out as i level 🙂

[whole pebble]

cough outlaw cough

[wanton atlas]

Oh come on, it can’t be that bad for assa rn, right ?

…….right ?

[balmy condor]

The pro of assa is it does more overall damage, more prio damage, and has less janky min maxes

Sub does more burst damage, and is on a 1:30 timer

Outlaw is currently better than both of those two due to trickster tuning

Devourer is miles ahead of all 3 rogue specs even in a phys comp, because it’s devourer, and in its current form it’s one of the most oppressively strong specs of all time

[marble hemlock]

devourer eating all the buffs

[narrow mauve]

I know its the sin subsection but have to ask. How is outlaw coping with the big pulls in m+? Always felt like a turn off to be hard capped at 8 targets(or was it 7?) max.

[balmy condor]

It copes by just doing big damage

Like I get hard cap is spookie scary

But realistically softcapped classes flatten pretty quick too

[wanton atlas]

I recently switched from enhancement to assassination
Is the lack of energy normal or im just horrendous at energy management ?

[balmy condor]

It’s a downside for sure but if your softcapped it’s getting reduced heavily as well

[balmy condor]

That is the design

[wanton atlas]

Are we…… happy with that design choice ?

[balmy condor]

Generally yes

That is the design intention of a class that fundamentally manages resources

If we had infinite energy, there would be no managing to be done

Kinda defeats the purpose

Could the payoff of managing be a little more? Sure, but that’s a bigger convo about why the apex is the only talent incentivizing pooling

[surreal halo]

Is Assa still CT'ing instead of FoK as default AoE builder?

[balmy condor]

No

[subtle tundra]

what's the meaning behind the SS

[balmy condor]

Idk

[subtle tundra]

random stuff

[balmy condor]

But the answer is still no

[rugged basalt]

If all targets are bleeding, there’s no use for CT despite it appearing to “do more damage”

[solemn breach]

Yes thanks buddy. I m well stuffed at 3k3 but I know there is something I can really improve with the energy spending. After a while I'll have low energy and it will take a while to fill it again but If I do the rota and spread dots as fast as I can like a normal player I feel like missing something. I know there is the talent that stack to 80 to work with for fast regen but it seems not enough

[rugged basalt]

Energy cost

[subtle tundra]

yes lil chump youre supposed to run out of energy

its a resource for a reason

if you had infinite energy why would it be in the game

[solemn breach]

Mmh yeah but I'm sure you can manage it better

[grim jay]

Kinda looks pretty equal between outlaw and sin in the highest keys damage-wise

[hearty seal]

idk
why is mana in the game for non-healers/non-Arcane
why is rage in the game

[subtle tundra]

not a lot

[subtle tundra]

u dumb

[balmy condor]

Excellent questions tbh

[grim jay]

Mana is a healing limitation

Rage is working more like Cp rn

[brave gyro]

Everything is either mana, rage or combo points

[balmy condor]

Mana for non healers/arcane should’ve been removed

Serves no purpose

[grim jay]

It kinda caps the offhealing

[balmy condor]

Ask blizzard why they can’t make interesting resources

[hearty seal]

now that's a good question

[subtle tundra]

arcane does mana management sometimes i think

50/50 based on blizzard's vibes

[rugged basalt]

They should implement Confusion status defect from sts where your energy costs are randomised

[grim jay]

They should make a rule in the company to whatever happens, never listen to lans

[rugged basalt]

KIR2

[grim jay]

[brave gyro]

Rogue - combo points
Monks - combo points
Paladins - combo points
Evoker - combo points
Warlocks, believe it or not - combo points

[hearty seal]

frankly rage is working more like...outlaw energy rn for Arms (it's there until it's not and it feels weird to not have it) and IDK what even to compare it to for Fury

[grim jay]

Arms fell victim to the "muh we no liky slow spec" crowd

An incredibly narrowminded and egoistical bunch

[hearty seal]

I mean
making a spec feel slow through not letting it press buttons
is very 2004

[subtle tundra]

me when i get bit by the mosquito of sudden realisation that all specs are builder/spender with different names

https://tenor.com/view/moustiques-mosquitoes-gif-23250690

[frosty cedar]

I'm an enjoyer personally

They should in fact give us less energy actually

We have too much

[brave gyro]

I'd say DKs rune were the most unique resource they had before

[rugged basalt]

There’s melee rogues, better melee rogues, ranged rogues, healer rogues, tank rogues and then devourer demon hunter and warlocks in general

[grim jay]

Its absolutely not

Its by definition what makes a spec slow

You cant make a spec slow while still pressing stuff on gcd

[hearty seal]

yes you can, if it has a 2 sec GCD for instance

[grim jay]

Then you still dont press buttons????

Its literally the same

[hearty seal]

you press buttons on GCD

[grim jay]

That absolutely doesnt change how it feels at all

[hearty seal]

it does

[grim jay]

Oh ye wait

It makes it feel worse

[hearty seal]

when I play a caster and have to cast shit for 2.5 seconds

[grim jay]

[hearty seal]

it doesn't feel like I'm doing nothing

[grim jay]

It certainly does

Because you do nothing

[rugged basalt]

I hate casting based classes I’d rather spam an ability till I have enough energy to use it

[grim jay]

You are waiting for a bar to fill, just that its a castbar instead of a resource bar

[rugged basalt]

I can’t ADADAD strafe meaninglessly and aimlessly in a casting class

[grim jay]

Literally no difference

But you cant even move

[rugged basalt]

Difference

[grim jay]

[hearty seal]

there is a feeling difference, IDK

in fact being unable to move is part of what makes it feel purposeful I think

[grim jay]

[rugged basalt]

I went out of my way to boycott any casting class and I now have to eat box every time during mechs

[zinc frost]

Eat box?? Ayo

[still nymph]

thats why i love voidweaver spriest. you are a caster but you can stutterstep and move during the channel. it's a good compromise between abc skillcap and adhd movement :D

[hearty seal]

casting creates a feeling that you're doing something and cannot do anything else while doing it, which is like, proper
not having a resource to press a GCD feels like you could be doing something, but you aren't
like yes, functionally you're standing there not pressing anything in both cases, but one is framed in a positive manner (progress bar) and the other is framed negatively (you're wasting time that could likely be filled with useful events)

the basic idea of ABC appeals to this exact thing

[grim jay]

Yeah idk, guess you gotta be a different kind of person thinking that standing there and casting shit for an eternity feels any better than waiting for your resource to fill

In fact, casting living flames on aug because you cant cast anything else feels like dogshit

[hearty seal]

IDK, I am perfectly fine with like, Destro Warlock

which is rather slow all in all

[still nymph]

i agree if you are not being able to press anything, because everything is on cooldown. waiting for a buff to run its course to gain a benefit feels different though. you get anticipation

destro doesnt feel slow lol

yeah you got long casts, but those are mostly shortened if you play correctly and otherwise you got insta conflag and quick incinerate

[grim jay]

Casting stupid filler spells that barely do anything while still getting annoyed if you need to stop casting is kinda one of the big reasons people dont like casters

[hearty seal]

that's the caster skillcap component

[grim jay]

Its not about skill, its filler shit that on most specs that have fast casts doesnt even matter

[hearty seal]

I mean it's no Fire mage, and IDK how that is, but Arcane feels faster even though it's kinda not?

[grim jay]

And on the specs that dont have fast casts, the casting itself feels infinitely worse

[still nymph]

cant we agree that what feels slow and/or satisfying is purely subjective? xD stutterstepping/movement optimization is the skill cap of casters. just as melee uptime is the skillcap of melees

[hearty seal]

anyway
slowing things down through resources feels the worst to me
lengthy actions or lengthy GCDs, that's alright, I've played FFXIV BLM back when it did not have triplecast

[still nymph]

i for one like the switch between fast cd/tea phases and the slower, more methodical enegery perserving, keeping envenom up and chilling, phases

[frosty cedar]

Slowing through resources adds depth though. Because you can decide when to burn through your resource

[hearty seal]

but not having anything to press is like
blegh

[grim jay]

Ffxiv combat feels slow and boring for like the majority of non ffxiv players
If that isnt your way doesnt mean its wrong or bad

[still nymph]

but you have something to press: A and D

[open mantle]

i feel like my energy drops rlly fast in mythic+ and i feel like my dps is overall is very low :((

[grim jay]

Just play a different spec

[hearty seal]

do they do damage? I don't think so

[hearty seal]

as you can see, I am

used to play Assa in TWW when it was...manageable

[still nymph]

with enough off gcd spells i think it plays even faster than wow. but that unlocks late and just for a few jobs

[hearty seal]

and fun in keys when you just blasted like 70 APM into the pack

[hearty seal]

that's gonna change in 8.0 apparently
2.0s base GCD instead of 2.5s, and more oGCDs

[frosty cedar]

Yeah that was boring as hell for me

[still nymph]

write an addon that shows random big numbers when you press those buttons? idk

[grim jay]

Its been long since name color actually meant something. Tho idk why people wanna change other specs to their liking against what the current playerbase of said spec prefer

[wicked scaffold]

I do miss uncapped kingsbane

[grim jay]

Its the minority ye

[solemn breach]

So... everything started here hahaha

[still nymph]

but thats good though. got something for everyone. i know people that get overwhelmed with such fast gameplay

[hearty seal]

TWW Assa was like
on a precipice
I wanted it to go the other way, I didn't get it, I switched to Outlaw

[grim jay]

Ye thats how it should be. Not "fast apm spec enjoyers", still actual granny secretary apm, would like to see other specs fast so they have more and the other people have less options

[rugged basalt]

I was happy FB was viable eventually, for TWW assa but that was as someone learning the spec

[grim jay]

Sin had some abominations ye

Especially with corruptions

[hearty seal]

you mean BfA stuff that could give you 100% haste or smth?

[grim jay]

Ye

That was insane

Couldnt stand it

[hearty seal]

well I expect 100% haste would be inf energy for any Rogue spec

[frosty cedar]

I'd prefer we stay bad at getting PI lol

[grim jay]

Same

Would even prefer windfury/skyfury getting worse aswell

Fuck buffs from other people

They really gotta bring in the scrolls for buffs

Atleast for dungeon content

[hearty seal]

Outlaw without Skyfury instantly feels worse

[grim jay]

Raid is a different topic

[frosty cedar]

If they were gonna do it they had better make us the undisputed best Pi target cause I ain't wanna live in a world where it's harder to get rank 1s cause most logs have PI lol

[real pike]

anyone know how to hide focus unit frame without hiding target in base ui? it's driving me crazy

[wicked scaffold]

not just because of PI but it felt really good to press kinsgbane and so much better when execute hit

[grim jay]

They could just

Buff KB

Instead of removing the stack cap

Should get buffed and be baseline anyways

[frosty cedar]

Tbh kingsbane is kinda cool but it's so piss useless without dm

[solemn breach]

?

[wicked scaffold]

Kingsbane should have the dm thing that every lethal poison applies twice

[frosty cedar]

You will have low energy, that's just part of the spec. If your looking to optimise energy from the apex, in single target, let envenom drop when you are at 80 stacks if you won't overcap. This is the same in AOE, but there is more for you to think about, such as whether the pack will last long enough for you to actually use the energy, if some adds will die soon, etc

[rugged basalt]

Sometimes I forget thistle tea still procs

[open mantle]

@frosty cedar i have the same issue i run out of tea quickly and i feel like i shouldnt be spending that much in the first half of packs

[frosty cedar]

I'm more of a raider than and m+er so I can't give high level m+ advice, but I believe Whispyr mentioned that he simmed it and there was no gain to play around tea even in m+ for pack size or what have you

Personally I ignore tea completely in raid and m+

Theres a certain level of acceptance of having low energy that's necessary I think, lol

[wicked scaffold]

Assa energy is what it is

[rugged basalt]

I love raiding.,

[still nymph]

i only check for tea shortly before my cds and even then its w/e. if i have one ready i try to chill with energy consumption, otherwise i run out of energy after the second env in KB

but get two lucky ambush procs and its a whole different story

[open mantle]

so dont panic if u lose tea ?

[still nymph]

not really, no

[rugged basalt]

Not rly an issue

[frosty cedar]

Yep. Just go with the flow basically

[open mantle]

do i drop 80 stacks everytime if im not overcapped.

[frosty cedar]

Just trust the damage will be there even if you have to stand and auto attack for a bit, or have to miss a few globald

[still nymph]

yeah and if you try to pool just refresh the envenom buff in the last seconds. do that 2-3 times and you are back to full energy

or dont. its like a 3% difference iirc

[frosty cedar]

I don't drop during deathmark but generally you should drop at 80 if you won't overcap as a general rule

[still nymph]

during cds its blast time, no matter the stacks

[open mantle]

i see its just i like assa more then sub i just smell but this is my first entire ssn playing rogue

[quiet star]

how much energy you pooling before deathmark/kingsbane?
of course on pack start it's clear, but if you already in a fight and on low resources?

[frosty cedar]

No need, just send it

[quiet star]

but that's contrintuitive...

like how I can spam envenoms

in short vindow

[still nymph]

i try to go in with as much as possible, maybe one tea stack, and/or apex proc.

[quiet star]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-surprised-gasp-what-cat-shock-gif-635629308990545194

[rugged basalt]

Dm refunds energy doesn’t it

[quiet star]

80

over 16

not bad

[still nymph]

basically let apex run out, (env), vanish, gar, muti, env, into cds

[quiet star]

but it's not like I have too much of energy

[open mantle]

is there anything in raid i should do for add phases or just go full boss like first boss etc

[supple spindle]

boy do i hate council bosses

[still nymph]

depends. cd should go onto boss, if the add wont live long

[rugged basalt]

You’re definitely swapping targeting to big add but whether you blow cds on it depends on the boss and how competent the team composition is imo; I ignore vorasius adds unless I’m fixated

[open mantle]

i mean dragons theres no way imma spam adds on hc

[still nymph]

but i used KB on the adds of the first boss in mythic in the first week, just to make sure it dies during progress

[rugged basalt]

I did the same

[strange onyx]

Hej

[rugged basalt]

However my logs look god awful

Hej

[still nymph]

i redeemed my logs in the following weeks xD

[rugged basalt]

I went from single digit to double digit parse

Grey to green on imp

[strange onyx]

Huge

[rugged basalt]

Blue next

[strange onyx]

I sent outlaw on all my bosses big up

[rugged basalt]

I’m still madge about it since the 20% wipe was 99

[still nymph]

its getting there

[rugged basalt]

I never mentally recovered from this while I was watching us wipe to dispels

[still nymph]

i feel like its always like this. the one try i fail majorly we get the kill >_>

[supple spindle]

where's the guy who kingsbaned the creepr on vora?

[open mantle]

so i only started playing assa rogue this ssn is there any main tips i should know to do better dmg ?

[still nymph]

read the guide. #1 way to improve :D

[still nymph]

im "69 = funny number" years old, cant relate

[frosty cedar]

Read guide, play fights, check top logs, ask questions in here I would say

[open mantle]

okay thank you its just little concerns not major

[frosty cedar]

I'm generally pretty active in here in EU time so if you have a question about my logs for example you can just ask me

[open mantle]

@frosty cedar ye i checked ur logs there insane cant lie

[strange onyx]

He is quite something

[hazy sundial]

are these pain to get?

[iron carbon]

Loot on a rare in SL

https://www.wowhead.com/npc=159496/forgemaster-madalav

As far I remember, you need to spawn it by using anima conductor

[worn geyser]

i finally got my alg 18 by pretending to be a dk, how is devo that insane that hes doing same dmg but its considered 'gray' for devos lmao

[static glacier]

how'd you pretend to be a dk lmao

[worn geyser]

just put in note id do more dmg than unholy lmao

[reef flower]

Crown is the only fight where adds padding is not taking into account right?

[worn geyser]

i dont think i did tho but all good

[reef flower]

*log wise ofc

[strange onyx]

Saladbar

Vorasius?

🐉

[reef flower]

Salad too okk good to know ty

[strange onyx]

What about the others I listed?

[open mantle]

is 33% crit 22% and 35% mastery good stats or should i look for more haste

[severe meadow]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Stats
You will always get more accurate results using Raidbots Top Gear, as stat values will flucuate depending on gear and situation.

Agility (Item level) > Crit > Haste > Mastery >>>> Vers
The ratio between secondaries ends up being roughly 40/33/26/1

[rugged basalt]

The ratio mentioned being raw numbers obv

[open mantle]

@rugged basalt im awful at simming tbh

[rugged basalt]

You get far more value from it more than aiming for stat targets

Topgear and droptimizer kinda goated

[severe meadow]

You’re kinda goated twin

[normal mist]

Rule of thumb for simming: does it have higher ilvl? Equip it 99% of the time. Same ilevel? Compare them at top gear

[rugged basalt]

And then “umm vers bad”

[normal mist]

Fun fact I love simming for me and other people

Having premium is a godsent

[severe meadow]

Hey can you sim every gem and enchant combination for me

[normal mist]

In theory I can

[severe meadow]

Boil the lake

[normal mist]

I've done it for a bunch of randoms here actually

[slim pebble]

I recently paid for the $10 version and my sims are so fast

[frosty cedar]

You should just sim to be honest, don't make any gearing decisions by feel

[normal mist]

But

But backshot

What about

All the haste I need to be faster

[severe meadow]

[reef flower]

I'm comparing your logs with mine, on dragons fight in 4:44 you cast 71 envenoms, while I only cast 57 in 6:09 minutes fight... Also i do a lot more FoK and CT than you. On adds phase, you just envenom quickly and you do not try to spread bleeds right? The CT you use are only for 3rd P1, when dragons are stacked to spread bleeds between the two dragons ?

[spice surge]

You can pretty much always CT to spread bleeds between the dragons, but on HC its a bit annoying before they stack up

On mythic theyre always stacked

[reef flower]

Yeah I'm more interested on the management of adds phase tbh. I think i try too much to spread bleeds, going out of energy quickly even if I try to slighlty pool it before.

I'm wondering if trying to spread bleeds is worth it

[dire flume]

!ui

[prisma monolith]

Resources:

• ArcUI - Common UI Replacement
  BetterCDM - Enhancements to the Cooldown Manager
• MSUF - Common Unit Frame replacement
• Platynator - Recommended Nameplate Addon (Plater is not recommended)
  (Jundies Profile)
  (Whispyr's Profile)
  Misc:
• Clickable Raid Buffs - Poison Reminder
• WilduTools - random QoL like melee range indicator and cursor replacement

[frosty cedar]

You should build during the orbs with CT but keep spending at 5+cp

You should not just spam CT endlessly. Maybe that's the play with sudden demise, but I don't play it on that fight

[analog field]

How do you send less envenoms in 1.5 min longer fight?

[frosty cedar]

So If you are comparing logs, mine has an ethical build

[analog field]

It is too big of a difference

[frosty cedar]

I can only imagine that they are not pressing it during orbs phase

[analog field]

orb phase is like 2 envenoms no?

[frosty cedar]

Depends how long they live

[analog field]

Yeah but I remember casting like 5 cts until orbs died

in mythic that is

[frosty cedar]

That sounds about right to be honest

[analog field]

in heroic there is no point

[rugged basalt]

Do they live longer in m

[frosty cedar]

But you would usually be ct-envenom-ct-envenom etc

[analog field]

in heroic they instantly disappear I think

[frosty cedar]

Not necessarily cause in organised groups you will grip them together as they don't jump in mythic

[analog field]

Haven't done it in 2 weeks

[frosty cedar]

They kinda love the same amount of time tbh

[rugged basalt]

I don’t even CT in heroic

Until p3

[analog field]

Seems reasonable for heroic

[rugged basalt]

And if I do it’s gun to my head and I’m absent minded

[rugged basalt]

Oh the manual grippy would warrant some CTing I would reckon

I give it 3 weeks before I have to think about dragons

[frosty cedar]

Well CT is gonna do more dmg to em so I would CT regardless tbh

[analog field]

yes but now with all myth items and shit, they should die like after 2 cts or something

[frosty cedar]

Yeah

[weary stump]

Instructions unclear, my group will instead evoker wing push them all out of group post grip

[frosty cedar]

[rugged basalt]

If you push them off the cliff whats the worry

Put them all near the tail of the dragons so they get swatted away

[reef flower]

Too much cting on adds i guess !

[weary stump]

[reef flower]

Ty for answers 🫡

[rugged basalt]

You care too much love too hard parse too little

Live laugh envenom

[weary stump]

Add a mom's always right sign above that with a picture of valeera

[rugged basalt]

“Be careful, those webs will spawn Nerubians”*

[weary stump]

Pesky magic

[normal mist]

Guys I found a new "check the pins" gif and I wanna share

[frosty cedar]

[storm forum]

Do we get any new stuff in the .5 patch like sub and ol?

[normal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/i-can't-read-discord-pins-read-arthur-gif-14544767839103426122

[iron thorn]

not bad not bad

[storm forum]

[frosty cedar]

banger

[storm forum]

How does one uncum?

[weary stump]

More specifically look at the name of the sticker

[storm forum]

Did those two end up getting fired? Or divorced or whatever?

I heard about it and didn't care enough to follow

[weary stump]

No idea lmao

[viscid spear]

What always bothered me is there's clearly a keyhole on the door, meaning Arthur could lock it.
So the only explanation is that he would like to be able to but their parents disagree.
Meaning they are responsible for DW messing with his stuff.

[normal mist]

"they are just kids having fun"

Ahahaha... Silly parents

[storm forum]

They're gonna wonder why Arthur never calls

[weary stump]

Every childhood has to have some mental PTSD in the future

Therefore they don't give him the key

[viscid spear]

Another funny thing is the very first Arthur book had him looking like an actual aardvark and the theme was "be happy with yourself" and literally the next book has Arthur changed to his current look.

[weary stump]

He simply casted polymorph

[storm forum]

I wish I could cast polymorph on my face too

[weary stump]

You can, it's called South Korea

[viscid spear]

Arthur turned into Whispyr

[storm forum]

I wish they didn't keep rejecting my passport applications......

[weary stump]

I will never forget seeing pictures of the jawbone displays some of their plastic surgeons have

[viscid spear]

https://tenor.com/view/duh-gif-4471602845248510732

[weary stump]

Have you ever seen their towers

If no and morbidly curious, Google Korean jawbone towers kinda gross fair warning but it's crazy that they were proud of their art that much

[severe sedge]

Hey, i play sub and outlaw in keys, 3400 so no big boy but very limited comps works. Is assa the same? Will i need warr shammy monk druid to do good dmg?

[astral sundial]

I think assa benfist the least from shaman? It's still good.

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[golden loom]

shaman is just op for all melee

[severe sedge]

Was thinking maybe assa for pugs if it does ok, other 2 is just a few comps

[coral ibex]

most poison applications come from melee swings

skyfury op

[sacred oyster]

melee is a significant portion of our ST damage.

[astral sundial]

Yes, it just when comparing to the other two and asking if you must have a shaman to do damage - I would say, less then sub and outlaw (well at least less then sub).

[lime edge]

Shaman buff is like 6% in st

And 5% in aoe

Something like that

Or 5% dslice

I forgot

So its pretty big

[sacred oyster]

in what? your whole premise seems flawed

[spice spire]

@coral ibex your tag is diabolical deck is bad

[sacred oyster]

in keys mastery is HUGE. in ST the extra swings and extra dmg on poisons is nice. in a raid your gonna want it for the group buff in general. why are you even discussing it. sin still "does damage" without a shaman, shaman just boosts any groups damage its in.

[coral ibex]

sorry i can't hear you over the sound of me SLAMMING the vivi button

[astral sundial]

You didn't read the conversation and then you ask me why I discuss it?

[spice spire]

Buddy ts never happening Blud is about to be sent to outer space by even breathing

[coral ibex]

man it would be awful if his whole play pattern was enabled by defensive counterspells

[sacred oyster]

I rechecked, nope i saw your msgs, You wrote " it just when comparing to the other two and asking if you must have a shaman to do damage"

[spice spire]

I’ve not seen the deck pop off with a normal group yet.
At a blue less table (minus the deck itself) it almost launched but then dealt with 3 rebs

[sacred oyster]

ugh i dont know whether to be sad or happy that i know what yall are talking about lol

[coral ibex]

i mostly play a casual [3] version of the deck because im a little bored of my local cedh scene atm (couple stinkers keep popping up)

https://archidekt.com/decks/13630585/this_is_my_final_fantasy

[weary stump]

When in doubt just remember to play sheoldred

[spice spire]

Hate that. It’s supposed to be for fun man. You just try to win and send it

Not to veer off but I may dm you mine - my second job is solely magic related (TO of multiple formats at a shop)

[spice spire]

Nah I’d win

[coral ibex]

oh thats sick

yea i only play for fun so if the cedh tables aren't fun i dont play

[spice spire]

Yeah that’s what should be happening

Shit is supposed to be fun

[weary stump]

I love nothing more than the mild annoyance my friends show when they're all playing stuff with a lot of card draw and I put down sheoldred

[coral ibex]

there's this one turbo-redditor blue farm player that is literally insufferable and i dont know why anyone sits down with him

nobody is ever smiling at his table

[weary stump]

It would be funny to see someone sit down at his table with one of those like $20k eldrazi decks

[waxen oyster]

you could have stopped at redditor

More efficient sentence

[spice spire]

The issue is farm is just giga efficient cards

[coral ibex]

well he can play the deck well, its not like he's a bad player. he's just miserable to play with

[spice spire]

So if you’re launching 11 mana drop shits you’re getting clapped (likely, zhuladak has done some work)

[waxen oyster]

Yeah hence

redditor was only point needed

[weary stump]

What if we put all the reddit gamers locked in a room together to see who survives the week

[spice spire]

No one will

[little tulip]

so 16s are getting easier

that's cool

[warm vortex]

Assassination rogue

[little tulip]

honestly they'll probably make tubby custard infused treats if we let them cook

https://tenor.com/view/boston-cream-donut-doughnut-donuts-boston-cream-gif-15636057665873592456

hardest thing this week is switching from prio dam to cc bot rn

cheap shot isn't accessible at all on assa which is idk kinda criminal and if it stays that way i hope the tuning reflects the weaker cc profile

[waxen oyster]

that's a lethal attack on the nose

redditors dont shower

[weary stump]

We'll distill the scent into a new form of pepper spray

We'll call it nurgles blessings

[night summit]

how do i check for stat weights without using stat weight calc

[coral ibex]

you sim top gear and equip the best result

[narrow berry]

Hello, someone rememeber the name of the addon to track energy regen buff please ? Not sure if i see it on this discord

[lime edge]

What does this even mean

[night summit]

It is recommended to not use stat weights calc since its out of date. How should i check my stat weights if I dont have any items to check with so I can focus on which items I need to go after?

[lime edge]

Droptimizer?

Think thats what u mean

[sacred oyster]

Nooka Implaccable

[narrow berry]

Thank you

[spice surge]

You want to know what items are the best right? In which case stat weights are inferior to just straightup simming the items directly, which is what topgear and/or droptimizer does

[sacred oyster]

You want the "Droptimizer" tool on Raidbots, itll show you every dungeon and what would give you an upgrade and what priority to do it on.

Set it to w/e key level you can reliably run, ideally 10. And running 10 Great Vault (but ideally 289 to predict future) will let you sim where to use bonus rolls at myth tier.

[waxen copper]

!macro

[prisma monolith]

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial

#showtooltip Deathmark
/cast Deathmark
/use Light's Potential
```You **cannot** macro puzzle box or kingsbane to deathmark, as they are both on the GCD

[sacred oyster]

yall be wild if you are macroing potions to DM lol

id be so pissed if i popped my potion on a small trash pack rigth before a boss

[real pike]

imagine popping CDs on trash

and not still skinning the previous pack

[little tulip]

wait we're using potion after deathmark i just spent most the day doing puz/potion > dm + kb

https://tenor.com/view/panda-destruction-clean-silly-bear-gif-17335579524439895497

[real pike]

macro it to DM

[sacred oyster]

get a gamer mouse and just macro your potions right with the other cd buttons, i just hit all my cd buttons right on mouse (which are aliases to F keys)

[little tulip]

no

[solar wyvern]

Well if all your bleeda are out already u can pot -> pbox

May as well make those ticks count

Still will cover KB

[sacred oyster]

yeah in aoe it does make sense to do that

[solar wyvern]

Not always the case u walk into a pack with cds up

Sometimes they 15 sec out

But ye macro pot bad in general

On all classes

[sacred oyster]

well also in higher keys where they are gonna live the full 30s, i always bleed spread before PB too so that the full PB duration is used on ticks rather than the first few secs of PB be wasted while still spreading.

now if its gonna die in 20s anyways then yeah it doesnt matter

[slim pebble]

Is FoK on 2+?

I cannot remember for the life of me

[little tulip]

mostly i've been working on applying vanish correctly but ye thanks

[sacred oyster]

3 if blind side

so like if you are in demise build where its ST focused with blindside

[slim pebble]

Thanks king

[latent kernel]

It’s so hard to judge this though, you almost have to desync your cds from your group if you’re running with other 2min cd classes. I find sometimes I try to do this and the pack is 60% dead before I even get all my
Bleeds out

[sacred oyster]

I just alternate PB with DM and use CD every pull, works great

then the other 2 dps can alternate between each other

[heavy reef]

Hello, which 4 poisons do you all use?

[sacred oyster]

all 4

wound doesnt exists

[latent kernel]

So you purposefully desync pbox and dm?

[royal lantern]

well

if you put talent points into a poison

[heavy reef]

there are 6, and - wound so thats 5

[royal lantern]

what do you think are you doing with it?

[sacred oyster]

yes, dps is dps. keeps me sustained high dmg across all pulls. its more efficient than the pack dieing with time left on CD

[latent kernel]

Never thought of doing that

[latent kernel]

When you say more efficient, is this numerically backed up

[sacred oyster]

if you have 5s left on your CD, and everythings dead, the value of that CD time is 0

if all 20s of your CD is spent doing boosted dmg to a mob. yes math is simple here

[heavy reef]

Atrophic poison
Deadly Poison
Amplifying Poison
Crippling Poison
Instant Poison
Wound Poison

[latent kernel]

No I understand that, I’m saying in perfect world is it numerically more efficient to split up pbox and DM or use them together?

[normal mist]

!poison

[prisma monolith]

You should always be using poisons you talent into, which means the following:

Lethals:

• Deadly always + Amplifying if you're talented into it with DTB, Instant only as a final option
  Non-Lethals:
• Atrophic/Numbing, crippling if you're talented into DTB

Wound poison damage in PvE is atrocious and should never be used

[latent kernel]

Because it seems with ideal play you would always try to align them

[heavy reef]

ok thx

[sacred oyster]

if you have a damage amp phase on a boss, using them together yes makes sense. and on bosses i try to sync em as it lot of times lines up to use them again in the execute phase. so im mainly talking trash here.

[royal lantern]

maybe dont talk trash when somebody asks a genuine question

🙂

[sacred oyster]

i think you misread that

[royal lantern]

because you dont fucking do that jfc lol

that the dumbest thing you could do

[sacred oyster]

ok, if its so dumb, explain why?

[little tulip]

wound is valid on magisters terrace unless everyone is prioing down that leech mob in high keys

[sacred oyster]

what math gives it an advantage for both to be used at same time?

[royal lantern]

because you do more dmg during cd, which amplifies the fucking effect????????

[little tulip]

have fun making sure deadly is still up for the pack after though lmao

[royal lantern]

jesus whats going on lol

using a strong as hell dmg boost like puzzlebox outide of cds? why would you ever fucking do that

you boost nothing that way

[latent kernel]

I don’t really understand it either, the math doesn’t make sense to me in perfect scenarios, I was trying not to be condescending about it tho and hear you out aikar lmao

[little tulip]

yeah puzzle box doesn't add damage until you send it

[sacred oyster]

i think you are tunnel visioning here

[little tulip]

why would you desync it from its highest value use case

[sacred oyster]

PB IS a cooldown. you use cooldowns to damage boost to kill mobs faster

[little tulip]

just eat the extra 10-15 seconds on trash and use it with dm

[sacred oyster]

so yes, you would use a cooldwn to kill the mobs faster... thats... the entire point...

[little tulip]

just sounds like you might be used to making hero plays

which is valid but you really don't or shouldn't be trying to hero clutch a trash pack

with a no cds puzzle box or something

cause you can solve that trash pack with other solutions

[latent kernel]

Desyncing doesn’t really make sense to me, puzzle box is essentially just a damage amp through mastery, so you’d get the most value using your damage amp while in cds

[little tulip]

like kidney shot or trusting another dps to use a 45 sec cd 🙂

[latent kernel]

Doesn’t really make sense why you’d desync just to flatten your damage profile

[sacred oyster]

to kill everything faster?

[little tulip]

1v5 clutch

lets the team die to let it happen

[latent kernel]

This only really applies if your tank is pulling like a dumbass

[little tulip]

yeah that's what baiters do instead of trying to win trades/crossfires

[royal lantern]

@balmy condor can you sstop this really weird discussion before i get a stroke

[little tulip]

they uh justify stuff to setup their win condtion

[latent kernel]

Like if your tank is aligning huge pulls with everyone’s 2min cds that is the most efficient, because you’re using group cds (even lust) to make pulls possible that wouldn’t of normally been possible

[sacred oyster]

i guess its really difference high keys vs normal keys. im not running 15 keys. in a <= 12 range, desyncing has worked better for me

[runic hinge]

are we sending this puzzlebox with no cds or with like 1 min kb

[little tulip]

yeah i've done that in 12s to clutch a sketchy group

i can't lie

[latent kernel]

Well ofc because everything dies in 15 seconds lmao, you might as well just throw sudden demise on atp

[little tulip]

but the higher you go the weirder that's gonna get

[sacred oyster]

well yeah thats what I do, I alternate by KB with with each CD so every KB is boosted

[little tulip]

but it's a bad habit

like for realsies

[iron thorn]

nothing's more fun than SD in weekly keys

[little tulip]

you could just run bleed build in a 12 actually if you're on par or slightly overgeared and get better results probably

sudden demise be slappin stuff

[latent kernel]

I mean moral of the story is that if you’re running assassination rogue in a +10 and your other two dps are 280 like you’re not gonna do shit anyways

Regardless of how you pop cooldowns lmfao

[little tulip]

you're basically feeding the 130 cd classes their cooldowns on a platter

[iron thorn]

12 aa with SD

that was funny

[sacred oyster]

what % was your CD of the total?

[iron thorn]

like 9ish?

[sacred oyster]

ive been iffy on if SD was worth it for 12s ive been using normal

[iron thorn]

i should have a log, lemme check

8.34%

[sacred oyster]

I was pulling 140k overall on POS before, but now i got my myth MH now and hit 280 ilvl need to see what I can get now

[iron thorn]

you know what's worth it in a 12?

[sacred oyster]

I got super lucky with pit bonus rolls, got belt neck and weapon (i got the 2 free bonus rolls from refund), spent 4th on AA but no dice.

[slim pebble]

They didn’t give my roll back

[sacred oyster]

i saw someone only got 1 of their 2 they spent refunded

the main thing i would want from pit now is the ring for raid/st dmg, but I have Void ring and crafted ring so it would really only be a situational minor replacement for the crafted ring (which I have crit/mast) so i cant see me wasting bonus rolls there now (since 2 of my items are not registered as removed from loot pool)

[tawny geyser]

Depends when it was used. It only affected those that used it within 10 hours of patch release, something like that.

So if he used in the morning and then later in afternoon thats why he only got one refunded.

[sacred oyster]

the person who said they only got 1 was sure they used both of theirs in the first day

but they prob just wasnt accurate as they first thought they used their roll on monday lol and im like well thats before patch so your records are wrong

[static glacier]

I think it’s just algethar angle

No other path guarantees the puzzlebox in 2 weeks

[frosty cedar]

I've been algethar angling

Pb next week then into nexus point

[static glacier]

Ye, my rogue also wants nexus, got one of the rings myth from vault

[royal lantern]

i want you

[sacred oyster]

which did you get? void is the best, but paired with light is the best by a sliver of a fraction for non raid rings. but wedding ring would still be viable as 2nd ring as were all in small fractions of differences between of light/wedding/the AA ring

so if you got void may be better to drop bonus on pit instead since nearly everything in there is good for us

the bonus roll system isnt new right? is there usually a limit how many rolls they will give or will it continue for entire season? like puzzle chips had a cap of 9 (which my dumbass used on hero tier not fully understanding it, had just freshly returned to game after 15 years)

[viscid spear]

Grinding these Ritual Sites is going to be annoying.
After one week and only being able to do one of the two locations, I have only 11 of the 48 achievements remaining. The only Daggerspine ones I don't have are the two group ones. After that it's 7 achievements for Broken Throne (one of which is also a group one) as well as the Renown 8 achievement (which gets me the Disrupter meta achievement).
I only just hit Renown 3, and the rewards make them easier as you increase your Renown, so I guess I should be proud I solo'd all of them so early.

[sacred oyster]

whats the point of those beyond casual players?

or just collector stuff?

i did some of the void strikes and that was so boring and badly designed

[magic fossil]

!talents

[sacred oyster]

was teased the potential for myth track bottom row vault gear but looks like that was just blizzard screwing up UX

[viscid spear]

Void Strikes aren't the same as Ritual Sites

[latent kernel]

I’ve had phenomenal vault luck this season

So I’m gonna send my tokens on pit prison

[viscid spear]

The meta for Ritual Sites is silly.

You only have to do a Tier 3 and unlock all the Challenges.

Meanwhile something like this doesn't have a reward

You'd expect it and the Broken Throne version to be a mini-meta where you get something cool like when you completed Stormwind and Orgrimmar in Horrific Visions, you know?

[fresh kelp]

they're giga fast for hero crest farming on alts though

my 265 guy took like 6mins each for a t5 run for 20 hero crests

[static glacier]

got the crit one

tbh with you I predict I get algethar ring from rolling for box and those will be my rings for the patch

[sacred oyster]

AA ring isnt bad, its also high crit

if i got AA ring and PB i guess i wouldnt be upset but itll make my crafted ring useless lol

[little tulip]

your rings will change based on other stuff

[quiet star]

I have rolled myth Light Company Guildon - how it bad for assa?

[sacred oyster]

i wish id idnt craft the thing now

[quiet star]

still doesn't have box lol

[waxen oyster]

champ box simmed higher

[sacred oyster]

well, my current crafted ring is essentially the same as the AA ring just equal crit/mas

[waxen oyster]

than myth guidon for assa for me

so uh

lol

[quiet star]

really, let me check

[little tulip]

its stooper weird that we get elvui levels of info from wow armory but not in game

[little tulip]

yeah cause i got myth omission of light out of vault my sim prefers crit afaiu so yeah

your results are gonna change, best answer is sim yo self

on sub i think i got +2k dps from a mastery flask + bifurcation band with guidon for example

try to chase bis gear and then make moves around that imo

[balmy condor]

Fascinating stuff, what a read, I’m going back to bed before we start desyncing more shit

[royal lantern]

desyncing your sleep schedule

smart

[little tulip]

my power went out and i had to sit here waiting to read the exciting conclusion

hell yeah

[balmy condor]

People are so creative

I’m inspired

Inspired to roll over for an hour and sleep it off

[indigo sinew]

they fixed the apex tracking cdm?

[fallow canopy]

just 1 hour?

[brazen halo]

I have the Naowh UI and I am finding it hard to track my bleeds, especially in single target. Seems CDM and other such things don't have an "You have this many seconds of Rupture and Garrote" aura anymore?

[runic hinge]

!ui

[prisma monolith]

Resources:

• ArcUI - Common UI Replacement
  BetterCDM - Enhancements to the Cooldown Manager
• MSUF - Common Unit Frame replacement
• Platynator - Recommended Nameplate Addon (Plater is not recommended)
  (Jundies Profile)
  (Whispyr's Profile)
  Misc:
• Clickable Raid Buffs - Poison Reminder
• WilduTools - random QoL like melee range indicator and cursor replacement

[brazen halo]

❤️

[golden loom]

People are getting shit for desyncing cds... I get shit for kingsbaning a mana battery to not desync it from deathmark even a second.. we cant win here..

[weary stump]

Guys I desynched kb from dm due to tier set cd reduction what do

Wait wrong expansion

[fallow canopy]

and a blistercreep

[golden loom]

true !

[royal lantern]

dont think so

[royal lantern]

you get shit?

damm your parents must suck

[golden loom]

!implac

[indigo sinew]

maybe its the cdm im using then but the stacks always show up for me now

[prisma monolith]

Implacable is bugged in Blizzard's Cooldown Manager, there is no way to "fix" it without an addon. It can mostly be ignored without losing more than ~0.8%

If you'd like an addon to track implacable, search for Nooka Implacable or use the Curseforge Link

[little tulip]

yeah it techinically tracks stacks by scaling from 15-80

but just get the addon

blizzard needs a ux guy who A: plays the game B: speaks ux design fluently

and also is willing to talk to C, C being alla us lol

[indigo sinew]

idk i did a key now and randomly it works fine. i cant see the energy regen buff but the stacks one always shows up now. i guess the cdm im using found a fix (cooldown companion

[balmy condor]

Might’ve also just been hotfixed

It is office hours at blizzard

[little tulip]

i wouldn't mind fading buffs during combat 😒

[timid quarry]

Guys need help with the rotation i feel like im doing something wrong even though its simple

Im not slick with my tricks anymore

[spice surge]

Ye theres 2 different ones in the cdm now

[sacred oyster]

TankMD addon will make you slick with your tricks

[spice surge]

One is the stacks and the other is the regen

[balmy condor]

Based

[coral ibex]

lol

[waxen oyster]

ngl

how does one pull threat as assa

the spec doesnt do enough instant dam

[lucid silo]

whats the best build for my claude agent in raid anyone?

[sacred oyster]

starting spreads immediately on pull before tank has aggro on everything, tricks is super useful to safely start spreading bleeds

[balmy condor]

With the desynced puzzle box

[royal lantern]

never did a dungeon with a guardian druid and suddenly gett slapped by an enemy 20 seconds into a pull?

[waxen oyster]

guardian druid players are

how do i say this

without being automodded

[royal lantern]

i mean, it snot their fault for once

bear drood outside of cds has legit 0 threat buildup

[little tulip]

you definitely were standing in front of the tank

[waxen oyster]

what happened to thrash

[royal lantern]

blizzard decided that it does no dmg anymore

and bear droods rn have this funny situation going on where they need to use rage to build threat

but like, also need to use rage to get iron fur running

[little tulip]

prot paladin also got griefed this season

they upped uh...baseline tanky but griefed cds

[sacred oyster]

yeah wtf happened to paladin, it went from god to wtf is it even now

[little tulip]

without actually making sure the gameplay loop was sound above a 10 or something

[lime edge]

Doesn't kingsbane do pretty good instant dmg

[sacred oyster]

upped on baseline? i feel like prot pallys are a secondary DK

[vernal comet]

I just started playing assassination rogue like 2 days ago is there a dungeon that has alot of good pieces that I can use my bonus rolls on?

[lime edge]

With implacable strikes and the actual hit

[little tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/pai-mei-kill-bill-im-waiting-gif-14970846308349324608

[frosty cedar]

I got aggro from a VDH 10 seconds into the pull by pressing my first, singular garrote

[waxen oyster]

prot still works

[frosty cedar]

and instantly died

[waxen oyster]

you jut have to be good

when you get the vdh that has double intellect weapon

[little tulip]

okay but the question of how good is pretty evil for most long standing prot pal enjoyers