assassination

[balmy condor]

But if it works it works

[green egret]

btw do you have any way to track implacable stacks or do i just count to 5

[balmy condor]

!implac

[prisma monolith]

Implacable is bugged in Blizzard's Cooldown Manager, there is no way to "fix" it without an addon. It can mostly be ignored without losing more than ~0.8%

If you'd like an addon to track implacable, search for Nooka Implacable or use the Curseforge Link

[green egret]

alright ty

[subtle tundra]

literal placebo

[balmy condor]

What do I know, I’m not doing +18’s

Maybe tracking fatebound coins is the difference

[subtle tundra]

youre 18 though 💋

[balmy condor]

Erm

26

[subtle tundra]

whatever uncle

[balmy condor]

Np

My pleasure as always

[royal lantern]

1 sentence horror story

[balmy condor]

Actually not a sentence, there’s no verb

[royal lantern]

i kiss you on the mouth

[balmy condor]

That works

[rancid cave]

yo boys, is there a way to caustic spatter more often?

[balmy condor]

What

More often as in what

[frosty cedar]

it's healthy to spatter once a day

Personally any more than that is too much for me

[golden loom]

I mean if ur talking about spattering more in aoe add spawns you can pool a bit before so you can pump more envenomns

but other than that idk what that means

[jagged heron]

yo broskis, newb here just leveling the rogue in timewalking rn iam 88 and just one question how you guys manage to not run out of energy? 😄

[rancid cave]

y because my dmg is rlly shit tho xD

[cunning needle]

you run out of energy

that is just how the resource works

if you didn't run out of energy, then energy would not be a resource you have to "manage"

[balmy condor]

Would probably be a sign of bad gear or just not pressing buttons properly (like continuing to generate at 5 combo points, not spreading bleeds with ct, not pressing kb/dm together, etc)

Caustic is entirely passive in nature

It’s essentially 100% uptime and you can’t really do much to fuck that up

[jagged heron]

so it helps to always wait for envenom almost over to press again right?

and we always want to have max cp before using envenom?

[rancid cave]

@balmy condor ye but sometimes i do in the exact same pull 500k dmg, and sometimes only 200k. and the only thing that is different are that green spatters on the ground, like sometimes it "proc" more often

[spice surge]

no

[golden loom]

you finish on 5+

[golden loom]

thats poison bomb not spatter

[jagged heron]

tyvm

[cunning needle]

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

• Energy just is low on the spec there's nothing to do about it, you will run out
• Without the Apex talent there is no reason to pool, once midnight drops this will update with whatever logic is found

[balmy condor]

Should probably update that, eh?

Which fucking idiot didn’t check the bot commands post-launch

[cunning needle]

yeah how dare you not check every individual command

!vanish

[vocal basalt]

What's the range on aoe blind?

[cunning needle]

!restealth

[wary light]

Idk he's probably too busy writing wowhead articles or some shit

[cunning needle]

wait why are they gone

[balmy condor]

The aoe is 8 yards I think

[balmy condor]

don’t remind me

My d4 expansion review is legit like 1200 words

[vocal basalt]

I swear to god I was doing 10s and the other orbs weren't getting ccd

[balmy condor]

Okay well that’s a different problem

[cunning needle]

yeah thats how blind works

!blind

[balmy condor]

Can’t blind an orb

You have to blind a mob

[wary light]

No meme, what's the current clicks on D4 content? As a Poe Andy I've genuinely just not touched it since beta or w/e and really don't see many people talk about it

[cunning needle]

how can an orb be blinded if it can't see

but yeah when you blind the orb it goes away insta

so it cant apply the aoe function

you need to blind a mob near the orb

[subtle tundra]

they should remove poison bomb on God

all it does is confuse ppl

[balmy condor]

Enough to pay me to write 1200 word expansion reviews

[vocal basalt]

Thats

Frustrating

[subtle tundra]

literally nothing burger talent

[cunning needle]

average rogue gameplay experience tbh

[subtle tundra]

then you dont do the exact pool

[vocal basalt]

Well, I wont feel as bad when the tank fuggin jets away to the next mob pack while xalatath spawns orbs three packs behind

[balmy condor]

Expac is genuinely good though, actually playable game

Only took 3 fucking years

But ya know

[cunning needle]

nice try, you're not going to get me to play d4

[balmy condor]

Maplestory then?

[cunning needle]

yeah i'd play maple story again before i play d4

acutally a fun game

[balmy condor]

Based

June 14th bucko

Or maybe 16th

[wary light]

I'm in the same boat, if it was free I'd play it but I already have multiple Arpgs to play and 2 of them are free

[balmy condor]

I forgor

[subtle tundra]

what about poe2

[cunning needle]

what's happening 16th?

[weary shoal]

!ui

[prisma monolith]

Resources:

• ArcUI - Common UI Replacement
  BetterCDM - Enhancements to the Cooldown Manager
• MSUF - Common Unit Frame replacement
• Platynator - Recommended Nameplate Addon (Plater is not recommended)
  (Jundies Profile)
  (Whispyr's Profile)
  Misc:
• Clickable Raid Buffs - Poison Reminder
• WilduTools - random QoL like melee range indicator and cursor replacement

[balmy condor]

Beeeeeeg patch

[cunning needle]

i'd rather play d3 than d4

[wary light]

I actually like going back every 2-3 seasons with some friends just to meme for a week and get full giga bis and push gr150s

[cunning needle]

yeah 100%

it's a fun pick up. play a build

get geared

then put down in 1-2 weeks

[wary light]

Something about WoL monk just tickles my brain just right

[cunning needle]

big number activate neuron

me go zoom

[spice surge]

I like the "chain" effect in those type of games

Where your stuff just bounces across the screen and deletes everything

Big neuron

[cunning needle]

arc lightning?

ye

i typically only do builds "once"

but something about flicker step

really gets the neurons going

(poe)

[balmy condor]

BEEEEEEEG

[cunning needle]

holy big

sounds like perfect timing for downtime in wow as well

[spice surge]

Anything really, but obviously stuff like chain exsang trapper worked really well

I just love chain

[cunning needle]

based

[balmy condor]

https://youtu.be/puUADpJUmTk?si=4MLXxY8J5Puxq7Rv

This shit goes dummy hard lowkey

[cunning needle]

ye thats kinda cool

[balmy condor]

Some like light-spear warrior guy

With summons and combos

[wary light]

This league with the Merc mod fractured on gloves and greater chain support it was deffo feeling incredible

[royal lantern]

i go dummy hard when quake is in the room

[balmy condor]

Quake goes dummy hard when he’s in my room

[royal lantern]

we can share

[balmy condor]

And by my room I mean my ass

[cunning needle]

???????????????

[rotund oak]

quake goes dummy and/or hard in general

[balmy condor]

What is unclear to you

[cunning needle]

yes what do you mean by dummy hard

is it like dummy thic?

[balmy condor]

Wouldn’t you like to know

[cunning needle]

yes i would like to know

[subtle tundra]

i mustve been a pirate in a past life, cause i love the sea

seaing your ass

[autumn sierra]

When I have an improved Garrote on the target, how long is the window I can refresh it without vanish?

[subtle tundra]

you wait for it to expire

[autumn sierra]

I was asking because the opener on Icy veins, mentioned after Deathmark -> Kingsbane -> "use garrote to refresh improved garrote"

or does it expect me to use vanish -> garrote after the initial set up?

e.g. stealth => garrote, build up -> rupture => cast some crimson tempest / envenoms now use Deathmark, Kingsbane into vanish garrote?

[subtle tundra]

yes thats vanish garrote

[untold mortar]

u dont refresh garrote after dm and kb

[subtle tundra]

you refresh in pandemic ofc

not randomly

[untold mortar]

this is not what he means i guess

so opener is like garr -> mut -> rup -> garr -> mut -> env -> cds

[subtle tundra]

i am becoming confuse

cool

[runic hinge]

cool

[untold mortar]

whats confusing you?

[runic hinge]

his sexuality

[subtle tundra]

😳

[autumn sierra]

thats clear, but I can only "refresh" an improved garrote with vanish garrote, thats what I was asking

[autumn sierra]

I guess ill try to squeeze as many envenoms in in that window and only reapply rup/gar when pandemic starts

and ideally I have vanish available for deathmark CD due the 2 mins

[untold mortar]

as i said you can refresh in opener for extended duration for your improved garr

[untold mortar]

yes

[autumn sierra]

within the 6 secons yeah

so after i have rupture on with ~40 secs, ill increase the imroved one and then start with cds

[untold mortar]

yes so you dont have to worry about pandemic in dm window

[onyx veldt]

https://x.com/cynxhyjal/status/2047890631884960139?s=46

Cyn (@cynxhyjal)

dude... like...

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[royal lantern]

they give out mythic gazes for free now with the bonuss rolls, and people still cry about it

can we nuke wow players allready from existence

[quiet star]

Imagine Cyn face

[waxen oyster]

imagine not having a mythic gaze weeks ago

[warm willow]

ok hear me out, I know the set bonus from the nexus point rings is shit, but what if you have the voidsong chain?

[humble verge]

i mean theres nothing to the equips

its basically just

gigastat stick item

[quiet star]

is there any addon that will hit me if I forgot to apply posions?

[frosty cedar]

its not shit its good

[frosty cedar]

I use this one

[humble verge]

this is 100% better, it can also display aug runes, food and oils whatever you might need

[frosty cedar]

looks good

[noble pilot]

buff reminders is really good too

[humble verge]

this is just your own

the buff reminders is also pretty good

cause you can annoy your guildies by keeping to spam em

[trim cairn]

Did warlocks get nerfed or something how tf are 275-280 ilvl demo warlocks struggling to compete with tanks on meters

[royal lantern]

not really

most players are just not good at the game

[waxen oyster]

its just that time of season

when complete animals occupy the 10-12 vault key range

[cursive willow]

12s are the new 4s

[frosty cedar]

99% of players who play this game have absolutely no idea

[trim cairn]

ye well can't they stick to delves or some shit instead of clogging up the lfg making queueing for keys an absolute snoozefest

[frosty cedar]

there is nothing you can do

[spice surge]

Check logs before you invite people is one of the only ways, but its insanely annoying

[open mantle]

is it true i should apply deathmark when i vanish into a improved garrote again ?

[frosty cedar]

can you rephrase that in a way which makes it easier to understand exactly what you are asking

[lean plover]

I think he means should he vanish imp gar after(or before?) applying deathmark

[gray raven]

before - vanish, 2x garrote so you have 30 seconds of imp garrote, then puzzle/dm/kb

[frosty cedar]

I would vanish, garrote, then do your cooldowns yes, if you can garrote again before the end of the 6 second duration its better than slamming two garrotes in a row

[gray raven]

it's marginal

but sure

[open mantle]

@frosty cedar thank u i been doing garrote then 5 combos rupture then reapply improved garrote

is that okay ?

[frosty cedar]

thats fine if rupture is in pandemic

[open mantle]

its just the opener i need to get used too

and also with aoe if there are 6 mobs for CT do i apply that many to as many adds there are

[frosty cedar]

what are you struggling with on opener?

[open mantle]

im swapping away from sub because i find it rlly boring and i find assa alot more enjoyable only problem is that im energy starved

[frigid cedar]

guys do you know if the rolls stack, lets say i dont use my rolls this week can i have 4 rolls next week?

[open mantle]

ye

wait

no

[frosty cedar]

to be energy starved is part of the design of the spec, it does not necessarily mean you are playing wrong

[open mantle]

its 2/2 atm

[frosty cedar]

yes

[open mantle]

but there gonna bump it up

every week

[frigid cedar]

so if i stay 2/2 this week next week i get 4/4 yes

[open mantle]

yes

[frosty cedar]

I should certainly think so

[frigid cedar]

cant decide if i roll on skyreach for outlaw wep or I stay assa and roll pos 😄

[open mantle]

if ur doing that id wait

and find which spec u enjoy the most

thats what i do

[frosty cedar]

ive been to algethar to try and get puzzle box, missed it on both rolls

but I did get myth wrists with socket, so not bad

[golden loom]

I got it on roll #4

[frosty cedar]

roll abuser

[golden loom]

Wrists cloak ring and puzzyB

[frosty cedar]

ill be in nexus point after puzzy B for the rings

[open mantle]

@frosty cedar also question i know envenom gives u energy back should i also try and hit 80% and let it fall or

[frosty cedar]

generally yes you want to build your stacks to 80, build again but instead of spending, wait until it drops off, so long as you wont overcap on energy

there will be times that you continue to cast envenoms despite your stacks if waiting would make you overcap energy

[dry copper]

If chest at the end of dungeon dropped 266 ilvl back and bonus roll gives me same back but mythic track it is bug or not?

[frosty cedar]

often during cooldowns in bloodlust, sometimes during cooldowns in eexecute

[open mantle]

and for CT do i apply to as many adds there are

[frosty cedar]

personally I ignore the apex during cooldowns in any event

DM that is

[open mantle]

DM ?

[frosty cedar]

you want to use CT as a builder so long as there are adds that do not have bleeds

[frosty cedar]

deathmark

[open mantle]

wait we play dm in mythic+ ?

[frosty cedar]

our main cooldown? yes? 😄

[open mantle]

oh sorry was thinking of somethjng else haha

[frosty cedar]

did you mistake me to mean sudden demise?

[open mantle]

ye

[frosty cedar]

you can play it in low keys

[open mantle]

i just u wanna max out ur bleeds to as many as there are

but ig that would make u energy starved

[frosty cedar]

you should still spend evenom at 5cp

while you are spreading bleeds

[open mantle]

thats what i do

[frosty cedar]

you might run out of energy depending on pack size

its usually not a problem though

[open mantle]

i just need to get a hang of single target

on raid

[frosty cedar]

well if you have any questions feel free to fire away

[open mantle]

for openers is it garrote then Rupture then vanish garrote on use trinket kings then DM ?

[frosty cedar]

not quite no

you should garrote as your first global, build to and spend a rupture, then build to and spend an envenom, then puzzle box, deathmark, kingsbane, envenom

garrote->build->rupture->build-> (I would usually reapply garrote here inside imp gar duratiuon) -> envenom->deathmark->kingsbane->envenom

I usually hold vanish for the next cooldown set

[open mantle]

when u get both back on cd or just kings ?

[frosty cedar]

you can garrote again in that sequence to reapply it

both

[open mantle]

@frosty cedar

[frosty cedar]

garrote->build->rupture->build-> (I would usually reapply garrote here inside imp gar duratiuon) -> envenom->deathmark->kingsbane->envenom

[frosty cedar]

both

[open mantle]

AHH because when ur DM comes back up so does vanish

i get ya now

[frosty cedar]

well its up anyway because you dont need to use it on pull

[open mantle]

use what

[frosty cedar]

vanish

[open mantle]

vanish ?

nono ur ideas are smart

[normal mist]

[open mantle]

id prefer to line it up with DM

and kings

u do alot dmg

then

[frosty cedar]

it really depends on the boss

[open mantle]

yes ofc

[frosty cedar]

for chimearus I use vanish during my first cds to I can spread imp gar to adds

[golden loom]

@frosty cedar on paladins ur just vanishing on cd right?

[indigo mulch]

Yeh if your in the first soak you can spread Imp garr on everything

[frosty cedar]

im using it on pull before the guy runs away but my paladins is not that good I might need to rethink my fight strategy

[golden loom]

ye for the guy running away I was refreshing rupture at like 15 seconds

just to have it for scent

[frosty cedar]

my first instinct was to do this as well but the pulls where I did not do that and sent an extra envenom when they are grouped up for the pull ended up working out better

[golden loom]

but then I was vanishing on 2target when the inital runs out but idk if its optimal

[frosty cedar]

I believe the sequencing means that when the tank lady comes back you can reaply rupture with the kingsbane without having to overspend on rupture so it evens out but you get a higher value envenom on the pull

if you just dont reapply rupture for when she runs out

cause then the ret pala runs out with a good rupture without you overspendinbg

[golden loom]

yeah idk guess it depends if that one extra envenom is better than 1 extra scent stack for like 15ish sec

[frosty cedar]

it seemed better for me but I swear that fight has disgusting variance

one pull we wipe at 1% and im above the rank one by 15k dps

next pull we kill it and I do AWFUL

[golden loom]

yeah we are still progging it so idk yet

should die tmrw

[frosty cedar]

good luck tho

its truly an annoying fight

you also rely a LOT on your tanks for good dmg

[golden loom]

the 2nd dm is so annoying cause the tank lady is just perma running away

[frosty cedar]

it just feels like you have little agency

[golden loom]

idk why they cant get her to stay

[frosty cedar]

second DM im using on the ret pala

hes running out during the tornados, right? with the other guy

[golden loom]

yeah maybe I should just do that

[frosty cedar]

just make sure you dont get clipped by the silence field

when your channeling PB

[golden loom]

its weird that 1 silence is a real silence and the other just does nothing for physical dps

but yeah reason I wasnt sending on ret is that his HP is like 50% while the others are 70% there

or something like that

[frosty cedar]

well killing the ret first is the strat, but post nerf he dies super fuckin quick

[golden loom]

ye I know he is supposed to die first but it does feel like he will die WAY too fast

better fight than soul hunters tho

[frosty cedar]

real

though I played WL that tier so I was kind of payphoning as destro

just spamming CB

[sacred oyster]

fuck yeah, got POS belt neck and now dagger on my refunded voidcore rolls

now to AA

[golden loom]

dont look at SH or dimmy

[open mantle]

@frosty cedar can i ask for spamming CT does the original add that has bleeds need to be near adds for it to spread

[frosty cedar]

all that is required

is that you hit both the add with the bleed, and the add without the bleed, with the same tempest

[golden loom]

I had to play warrior and then DH for NK/dimmy prog and then when I finally got to rekill them on rogue it was beyond cursed

[frosty cedar]

so you have to position yourself to hit both

[open mantle]

so ye u need to hit them with the bleed from boss example

[frosty cedar]

we hate dimmy

[open mantle]

to adds

[frosty cedar]

so if the boss has the bleed

you need the CT to hit both the boss and the adds

[open mantle]

yes

thats what i thought

but if adds on dreamrift are far away

isnt that hard

to connect

[frosty cedar]

on myth?

[open mantle]

well i mostly do HC

[frosty cedar]

I wouldnt worry about that to be honest. On myth when you take the gateway to the addds, you can just redot the big guy and spread from him

on HC oftentimes the adds will be close to the boss so you can spread off

depends really

if you have to just redot one and spread off it its not the end of the world

[crude wigeon]

wtf happened on dimmy cuh

[frosty cedar]

the dimensius incident

[golden loom]

fraud fight

[crude wigeon]

Cap!!!

[golden loom]

I finally got to play it on rogue when the timings were giga fucked and I also didnt get cdr bug and it was all sad

[crude wigeon]

[quiet star]

With this talent can I use both evasion and faint together to get 40% redaction?

[spring stream]

!macro

[prisma monolith]

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial

#showtooltip Deathmark
/cast Deathmark
/use Light's Potential
```You **cannot** macro puzzle box or kingsbane to deathmark, as they are both on the GCD

[frosty cedar]

I actually have no idea. I just use cheat personally

[quiet star]

but I guess cheat is worse in higher keys

[quaint dragon]

i think it stack ye

[quiet star]

feint give you survivability for situation where you know you will get damage like second both skyreach

and faint is actually 6 seconds every 9 seconds with 2 stacks

it's actually strong dr

[frosty cedar]

oh yeah its super good but I just play raid

[open mantle]

apparently i should use enevenom before my cds is that correct

[frosty cedar]

correct

[indigo mulch]

I mean any rot fight feint is better. Generally

[quiet star]

https://tenor.com/view/wow-really-skeptical-surprised-impressed-gif-4317894190384967926

[frosty cedar]

the opener I put here just before had envenom in it before cds ye

[open mantle]

btw i did mythic dreamrift killed it gaze didnt drop bonus roll didnt drop

im so sad

[frosty cedar]

unlucky bro

[open mantle]

the game hates me

but drops on my pala

seems legit

[indigo mulch]

It's a sign.

[rugged basalt]

2 of the shitter trinket, 1 leather belt, 1 cloth boot.

2. shitter trinket.

[indigo mulch]

Ive given up on loot.

I've gotten 2 vaults in a row with 0.1% upgrades.

[frosty cedar]

not a gem enjoyer I see

[rugged basalt]

you shine the brightest to me, that shopkeeper got buns

[quaint dragon]

damn eye of the eagle is insane dmg % for me i forgot

[frosty cedar]

gemsocket is like 0.5% so definitely keep that in mind

[indigo mulch]

Yes.

[frosty cedar]

yee they buffed it

[quaint dragon]

ye it was my biggest upgrade and still have normal alnseer haha

[rugged basalt]

honestly as the weeks go the likelihood of gem gv will go high, so im never forcing it

[quaint dragon]

is it possible to get triple socket/double socket on rings?

and ammy

[rugged basalt]

i think moq drops could be

[calm ibex]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/eu/kazzak/meju?zone=47 What am i doing wrong honestly i dont get it

[golden loom]

Looking at vorasius
You miss your kingsbane cast at 1 min since ur swapping to adds for some reason even though you are playing pure ST talents, also you dont do anything for 10 seconds in that sequence, also miss your 3 min kingsbane??

you dont potion in the opener either

on first boss you cast deathmark twice?

[uncut ermine]

Hey guys, I currently have 2 on use 2 min trinkets, how do I align my cds for them? Puzzle box and ember wing feather

[golden loom]

you dont play the 2nd

[uncut ermine]

Sadge

[golden loom]

play puzzlebox and then whatever passive trinket you have (gaze, plume, renown trinket)

[rugged basalt]

I'm having to swap between two loadouts for a, get this, 200 difference

[rancid cave]

!poison

[prisma monolith]

You should always be using poisons you talent into, which means the following:

Lethals:

• Deadly always + Amplifying if you're talented into it with DTB, Instant only as a final option
  Non-Lethals:
• Atrophic/Numbing, crippling if you're talented into DTB

Wound poison damage in PvE is atrocious and should never be used

[humble verge]

my guildie got refunded, and got trolled

[crisp pine]

thats dapper

imagine being that guy

[coral ibex]

that ring isn't bad

[humble verge]

no it aint

[coral ibex]

having 2 is tho

[fallow canopy]

Unlucky go next

[coral ibex]

i should basically just roll npx or pit i think https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/bo3eNp7hK3DuS6YkdxTfas

but these myth items are not much better than 6/6 hero until late myth track

[deft vault]

I got refunded my bonus roll is this normal lol?

[coral ibex]

6/6 myth crit/haste back is 0.6% better than my 6/6 hero crit/vers back

[fallow canopy]

If you spent before the fix, yes

[deft vault]

thats fucking nuts lmao

[coral ibex]

its their apology for the patch being busted as fuck

[fallow canopy]

You could get a duplicate if you roll from the same loot pool so beware

[coral ibex]

im glad i rolled for a raid item

now i can go roll m+ without worry

[fallow canopy]

But if you are not rolling the same loot pool again, then stonks

Like 5 guildies got gaze from the bonus roll so they are ultra winning

[quiet star]

I see that people usually replace Fatal Concoction or Secondary Poisoning with each other
can someone clarify what reasons behind that?

it's not very straightforward from description

[rapid patio]

how do you use to open aoe bursting? i mean the rotation

[golden loom]

There are a ton of talents u can kinda change between

They are all whatever

[quiet star]

that's fine, but I don't understand what it actually targeted for, aoe or st and etc

[golden loom]

Well secondary does nothing in pure st, however its pretty great for energy in cleave/aoe

The other is probably just a decent balance

[frigid lagoon]

what comps are people running with assa rogue in keys?

[agile geode]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[pearl folio]

have someway to take the sparks back or like, impossible

[sonic zinc]

meta comp but replace one of the non augs with sin

[hybrid snow]

!ui

[prisma monolith]

Resources:

• ArcUI - Common UI Replacement
  BetterCDM - Enhancements to the Cooldown Manager
• MSUF - Common Unit Frame replacement
• Platynator - Recommended Nameplate Addon (Plater is not recommended)
  (Jundies Profile)
  (Whispyr's Profile)
  Misc:
• Clickable Raid Buffs - Poison Reminder
• WilduTools - random QoL like melee range indicator and cursor replacement

[waxen oyster]

ok i stand corrected

ds is still omega shit

even from a numbers pov

[rugged basalt]

I have achieved resil 13

[rugged basalt]

what other pov were u considering

[spice spire]

Feels

[high sundial]

!craft

[lavish wing]

i think i already know the answer but ct doesnt spread iron wire, right?

[waxen oyster]

that maybe it was ok for sdmaxxing

[real pike]

I'm being a proper crab in a bucket about people getting their bonus rolls back ngl

It's so unfair reeeeeeeee

[waxen oyster]

even if i get something i cant upgrade it

myth crest cost

[frosty cedar]

correct it doesnt

[coral ibex]

same

[hazy sundial]

I cant believe that bleed dude made whyspyr add bleed build to wowhead lol

[waxen oyster]

wasnt it already

[lavish wing]

shame, ic used to spread it

[vast shuttle]

u go st build on fallen king hc?

or what bosses u go st on ?

[frosty cedar]

vorasius myth and hc, fallen king hc

[vast shuttle]

what

[dire slate]

Hi. I'm thinking of going back to sin. I do have alot of bis for sub though (so alot of mastery) Is it very bad to just change to sin and play with my currect gear or should I wait until I get a bunch of bis for sin?

[frosty cedar]

you asked what bosses you go st build on

so I replied

[rapid patio]

what is better? hero 6/6 bis or myth not bis 6/6?

[frosty cedar]

sim it

[waxen oyster]

13 ilvl is alot...

[slate nest]

Backshot why no sudden demise on dragons?

Orbs not living too long?

[frosty cedar]

its just padding to be honest

[coral ibex]

it is purely padding

[waxen oyster]

orbs die in 1-2s

[slate nest]

isnt that what we are all here for

[coral ibex]

those shitters die instantly

[waxen oyster]

even on myth

[frosty cedar]

im not specifically playing to parse

[golden loom]

its pure padd on a boss thats not even on allstars

[coral ibex]

no im actually fundamentally opposed to padding on shitters, i genuinely hate fights that require it for a good parse

i would rather just play the fight "correctly"

[slate nest]

why are dragons not on allstars?

[golden loom]

cause its the most padd fest of all time

[frosty cedar]

cause you can pad super hard

[waxen oyster]

"why is a padfight removed off allstars"

xd

[coral ibex]

because you parse by paying your raid to afk on every orb drop

[hybrid snow]

!ui

[prisma monolith]

Resources:

• ArcUI - Common UI Replacement
  BetterCDM - Enhancements to the Cooldown Manager
• MSUF - Common Unit Frame replacement
• Platynator - Recommended Nameplate Addon (Plater is not recommended)
  (Jundies Profile)
  (Whispyr's Profile)
  Misc:
• Clickable Raid Buffs - Poison Reminder
• WilduTools - random QoL like melee range indicator and cursor replacement

[golden loom]

just like stix bunk junker or ovinaxx

that were also removed

or ulgraxx intermission adds

[slate nest]

I'm not often raiding so excuse the question

[waxen oyster]

i mean you asked something about raid

so...

[frosty cedar]

to be honest, you dont need to go sudden demise to parse on it, but its definitely more overall

[coral ibex]

its just very common to happen

[slate nest]

I didn't know that fact so

[frosty cedar]

all good mane

its not THAT bad compared to other giga pad fights from other tiers

[waxen oyster]

any fight with shitter mobs ends up a pad

[slate nest]

thats why im rank 31 on allstars despite a shit log there, explains it lul

[coral ibex]

any fight where parsing strategies are degenerate and don't contribute to ending the fight ends up being removed from all stars or rules get changed

[golden loom]

pugging chimeras on DH this week took 40 pulls for some reason, gaze dropped and I lost the roll and then I bonus rolled chest (1/3) when chest is the only myth armor piece I have ggggggg

[frosty cedar]

crikey

[slate nest]

is there any other fight excluded? or is it just drakes

[frosty cedar]

just dragons at the moment

[golden loom]

yeah some fights (alleria/nexusking) have specific parts excluded but still have allstar score

[lunar hazel]

So i got like 1200 crit, 680 haste and like 800 mastery is that to much mastery?

[coral ibex]

no

[frosty cedar]

you should sim for the content you are doing and make gear choices accordingly

[rugged basalt]

who was the guy running the void ring set

[frosty cedar]

many people but I do yes

[rugged basalt]

it was u

[lunar hazel]

I do sim. And the Sim is fine im not asking about that.

[frosty cedar]

its my bis

[fresh kelp]

inshallah they remove little orbs on nexus and the shitter adds on chim and normalize the amp on crown and

oh wait

[lunar hazel]

Im asking if I should move my mastery into something else.

[rugged basalt]

it sims better for me in ST/raid but sims worse in dslice

[golden loom]

if the sim says ur gear is fine then its fine

[fresh kelp]

this entire tier just sucks

go next

[frosty cedar]

thats what the sim is for though. If you have gear in your bags that can allow you to move the mastery, you would just sim for them on top gear

what exactly do you plan to do to move the mastery?

anything you can possibly do can be simmed

[lunar hazel]

Idk if its be more beneficial to put more to crit haste or vers

[golden loom]

I mean do you have the items to do that?

[rugged basalt]

You can theorize with top gear on potential gear replacements and see if they would help or not, if that's something worthwhile

[frosty cedar]

honestly I kind of like it

[golden loom]

do you have equal ilvl pieces of different stats

[lunar hazel]

I dont know assassination to well so idk if I can get more value elsewhere

Just recrafts yeah

[waxen oyster]

you litearlly ask topgear

[fresh kelp]

i dont mind the good bosses (belo was not very fun) but the parsing stuff this tier is going to be diabolical

[golden loom]

you can sim that

[rugged basalt]

If they are still hero track gear for example, you can topgear m+ gear replacements but that'd be painful to farm for

[frosty cedar]

sim your recrafts and see if its a gain I would suggest

[lunar hazel]

And change plume from crit to mastery ect

[fresh kelp]

i think id be a lot happier on assa where you can't be a gremlin

[frosty cedar]

to be honest the way assa is designed right now its hard to gremlin

which is why its so good atm

[fresh kelp]

i look at sub logs and they're holding full cds and 2nd pot for last little orb spawn on nk

[golden loom]

yeah in topgear u can sim re-crafts

[frosty cedar]

you dont have to specifically pad or grief to parse

[fresh kelp]

legit out of melee range of boss when it dies

[frosty cedar]

unlike many other specs

[lunar hazel]

Yeah I use those tools. I'm just asking if there are like caps or if im just using way to much mastery.

[golden loom]

I hope next tier has 5 pure ST fights

[frosty cedar]

you and I both

[fresh kelp]

so based

[golden loom]

there is no caps

u follow the sim

[lunar hazel]

Cause assa seems really confusing

Stat ways

Wise

[golden loom]

and if the sim says ur things are fine then they are fine

[coral ibex]

its not confusing, all stats are good

you equip the highest simming combination of gear

[frosty cedar]

in general its going to be crit-haste-mastery=vers

[lunar hazel]

Ok so all stats benefit and none are dead stats?

[slate nest]

Crit just makes the spec more fun tbh

[golden loom]

yeah all stats are just vers in disguise (more damage)

[rugged basalt]

favoring crit, haste/mast being on equalish footing, and we dislike vers

[coral ibex]

vers is the closest to a dead stat there is and its just not as good

[lunar hazel]

Ok cool ty

[golden loom]

I also legit hate nexus king for that, its a "ST fight" but then the way to parse is to just do useless padd

[frosty cedar]

I mean the funnel is good

[golden loom]

im just hitting boss and then I check other logs and they cast CT like 15 times more than me

[slate nest]

Another question for you backshot - I see a lot of people switching over to improved ambush, but you stick to tight spender. I personally enjoy the ambush CPs alot in fights, why do you stick to tight spender?

[frosty cedar]

I prefer it because it feels better, afaik its better outside of ST, and I tend to play a lot around my energy in the pull so it gives me more of it

I think its only slightly ahead in ST. maybe ill play it on lura

I havent simmed it in ages though

[golden loom]

wait you think tight spender feels better?

[slate nest]

Is there a energy breakpoint where you let implecable run out? Or is just feels wise for you

[frosty cedar]

sure, you spend less energy

[lunar hazel]

"Tight" always feels better

[golden loom]

Blindside procs without improved ambush feel so painful and then tight spender is just "non-feeling" imo

[frosty cedar]

the theory is to drop it at 80 stacks when you wont overcap but there are many moments to break the rule

I generally ignore apex during deathmark or if I want to pool energy for, say, dragon adds, nexus dmg amp

[rugged basalt]

in areas where im renewing rupture and i happen to be 65+ i let it run out

[frosty cedar]

that can often happen yeah

[slate nest]

Yea i try to let it run out during rupture/garrote refresh

[frosty cedar]

well it depends where you are

[slate nest]

and when im like noticing im energy starved

[frosty cedar]

what I do is that I fish a little when my rupture is near or at pandemic

if you use a 7 cp envenom you can guarantee that you will reapply rupute and still continue your apex chain without relying on a good crit roll on your builder

so I generally look out for that moment if im near pandemic or in it

[slate nest]

hmm that sounds interesting

thanks buddy

[frosty cedar]

I dont think its worth it to intentionally go to 7cp in that scenario but I will see if I can get it before I commit to a refresh on rupture usually if im mid apex chain

[slate nest]

I mean your performance might indicate its worth it haha

[frosty cedar]

just little min max stuff u get used to after a while

[slate nest]

I mean I'm playing at the top, I have to start trying min max to catch you 😛

[golden loom]

sometimes u try to minmax everything and then you press kingbane on a blistercreep

[slate nest]

or you forget to kingsbane and its at 45 seconds cd and you just have to take the L

[frosty cedar]

the three most important things you can do to parse well is

1. commit little to no mistakes on globals across the pull
2. have a good fight plan for your cooldowns and your energy depending on the mechanics and the teamcomp and kill time you have (its not one size fits all)
3. have your character as tuned as possible

luckily 1 is not too hard on assassination due to having the time to think about your globals but you have to actively think about #2

[frosty cedar]

bro we both did this

[open mantle]

quick question for mythic 2nd boss of voidspire do i spread bleeds to adds

[frosty cedar]

which one, vorasius or salhadaar?

[open mantle]

vorasius

[frosty cedar]

just go full singletarget build and sit boss

[open mantle]

okay

[frosty cedar]

well. thats the best way. but if your RL is calling you to do adds then go do them I guess

[slate nest]

2 is tough because I'm Pugging - but thanks for the advice

[frosty cedar]

its definitely easier in a guild environment

[open mantle]

its a pug

so

;p

[frosty cedar]

when I go into reclear I know pretty much how long the fight is gonna be

[slate nest]

Yea I'm quite happy with my logs for pugging tbh

[frosty cedar]

then blow that boss up king

[slate nest]

But sometimes you get the god pug and can just go ham

[gleaming geyser]

we love m+ pugs

[frosty cedar]

lmao

[gleaming geyser]

i forgot 2nd name

oops

[frosty cedar]

aurafarming in m+ pugs is funny but then you realise the key was slow because you did more dmg than both dps combined

[gleaming geyser]

I got alsneer on Tuesday bonus roll and then puzzlebox first refunded bonus roll today

life is good

[slate nest]

Sudden Demise Aurafarming in +10 is based

[frosty cedar]

he is him

im still waiting on a mythic puzzlebox

[slate nest]

Same boat

[frosty cedar]

I had a champion pb with the renown trinket for most of prog up to council, cursed as fuck

[slate nest]

and 3 vorasius kills in a row without dagger drop

[gleaming geyser]

might be confirmation bias but I started getting good luck when I started using my TBC prepatch twink xmog set

[slate nest]

Actually crazy how good that trinket was though

[frosty cedar]

I just simmed and tight spender sims more for me in ST too so

[wise ibex]

Haven’t really been following so sorry in advance, are parts of assassin still bugged

[slate nest]

Implecable stack tracking unfortunately

[half igloo]

is there any like written/video guide on the 6? different assa builds I'm seeing in keys, starting to reach key levels where random talents I set and forget weeks ago won't cut it any longer

[golden loom]

for me imp ambush was 0.5% ahead last time I simmed it

[frosty cedar]

maybe my character is a bit cooked atm cause the set rings are bis for me even on mythic too so idk

[waxen oyster]

wheres the shadowfang

[golden loom]

ye I also have rings as bis, lemme see what the clanker says today

[waxen oyster]

inaccurate

[gleaming geyser]

I didnt have shadowfang

its accurate to me!

[waxen oyster]

noob

[gleaming geyser]

[frosty cedar]

if your not rocking up to raid like me it aint happening

[waxen oyster]

inaccurate since its not bis 19 twink

!

[slate nest]

Bro that transmog is BIS

[waxen oyster]

its incorrect tbh

chest should be tunic of westfall

or blackened defias if horde

[gleaming geyser]

it is tunic

[frosty cedar]

bro has the fukin wow gucci knowledge

[gleaming geyser]

only missing is shadowfang

[waxen oyster]

feet of the lynx

for shoes

[bronze panther]

https://tenor.com/view/the-solution-is-simple-it's-a-no-brainer-im-jeong-dae-squid-game-season-3-player-100-song-young-chang-gif-10042109574270080784

[waxen oyster]

:l

[bronze panther]

got 2 cores back

[gleaming geyser]

no feet of the lynx was classic

not tbc prepatch

[golden loom]

@frosty cedar

[bronze panther]

scammed should have been 3 they didnt give me back the one used from vault

[waxen oyster]

lynx was better i could have sworn

[distant mesa]

anyone else have an issue with rogue arcui bugging buffs out

[gleaming geyser]

they buffed fang gloves boots and belt + 3set expertise

[waxen oyster]

and deviate scale belt

[frosty cedar]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/7FusUMcGGeqXHjTb5D7w13
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/nFSXmPYPMkbHfjqxGcdQCW

its like 200 higher for me

[hazy sundial]

Transmog list?

[gleaming geyser]

ill reply in xmog

[frosty cedar]

bro is a loose spender i guess

[golden loom]

im glad tho

I love imp ambush

[frosty cedar]

honestly ive never played it so

i imagine it feels similar to poisoners drive (my beloved)

[barren yarrow]

SOOOO

we got another 2 voidcores??

[brave gyro]

abuse early, abuse often

[bronze panther]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-nod-agree-gif-15074372

[barren yarrow]

https://tenor.com/view/kid-watching-sipping-tea-aint-saying-nonfin-aint-saying-nothing-gif-17427445

[hard grail]

Is atrophic poison good on Vanguard?

[subtle tundra]

i got 3 more

after i got puzzle box and dagger

ez losers

[shy heron]

Yes

[hard grail]

I got gaze and then got 3 refunded and then got pit dagger and puzzle box @subtle tundra

[hard grail]

ty

It reduces most?

[subtle tundra]

lol being proud of gaze

276 item

[hard grail]

289

[subtle tundra]

on my main i got alleria neck

ez pz

[shy heron]

I distinctly remember max saying they wanted a rogue for it on rwf because it's a fight that's perfect for atro but the dps profile of sub was too doodoo

[subtle tundra]

wasted crests

[hard grail]

They didnt use a rogue at all?

[shy heron]

On paladins? No

[hard grail]

Oh wow

[shy heron]

Exile was only in on vorasius and lura that's it

[lunar hazel]

So preference question. Do you guys think puzzle box is worth the annoyance of using it for the dmg increase?

[hard grail]

Yes

What's so "annoying"? Using it?

[lunar hazel]

Using ut

It

[outer marlin]

obviously the channel? lol

[shy heron]

The channel

[hard grail]

Using the On Use Trinket is annoying is wierd to me ig

[lunar hazel]

The on use isnt the problem. Its the 2s cast time after opening in a big pack pull

[shy heron]

It's the fact that as a rogue we have exactly zero channels or hard casts so it's just foreign to players who are used to instant blasting

[frosty cedar]

yes of course its worth it. its hasted so its not even 2s

[hard grail]

2 seconds aint shit, you're missing one cast if you're a caster to get a massive dmg buff

[outer marlin]

idk what to tell ya, it's obviously more annoying to use than any other trinket. you can play pretend if you want

[hard grail]

But using that 1.6 seconds to channel puzzle box is the most dmg you could possible do in that 1.6 seconds youre "losing"

so

[lunar hazel]

For sub i dont mind it. The sequence of. Garrote rupture, mutilate, garotte, 2s cast, km, kb. When im using it hate assa when im not using it I love assa

[hard grail]

its really only BIS on sin

[pseudo crow]

So is deathstalker’s mark hella bugged rn?

[hard grail]

not great on sub

[frosty cedar]

I like pressing it personally

[lunar hazel]

I didnt say it was bis on sub. I said I dont mind it on sub.

[viscid spear]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923750073499648/1487881361506173028/puzzlebox.gif

Use it

You can hate something and still need it

[lunar hazel]

I think ill just kms

[lunar hazel]

I dont play casters at all.

[vestal wren]

subtlety uses guidon instead, still requires annoying use but! is not a channel

[hard grail]

Why do people look at Puzzle Box like youre losing damage when you use it though? It's the most damage you could do. Or you could not use puzzle box and do less damage and have an extra 1.5 secs to cast one mutilate

Stop looking at it like its some hard damage loss i think

[vestal wren]

puzzle box is just annoying to use

[hard grail]

I guess I wonder if

[lunar hazel]

I never said its a large dmg loss why the fuck you making shit up bro? 🤣

[hard grail]

Say Kingsbane was a 1.5 second channel, would people complain about Kingsbane? Or they wouldnt cuz it does damage

[lunar hazel]

I specifically said is it worth the dmg loss to you guys for losing the annoyance

[outer marlin]

people would. because it'd be annoying to use lmao

[hard grail]

So you said "I'm losing 2 seconds after opening after a big pack pull" - that wasnt you suggesting you lose uptime of doing damage?

[lunar hazel]

No mf I said it'd annoying youre adding your own version

Stop making shit up to seem edgy

[hard grail]

So your question was should I do less damage so I can not press my trinket? That was your question?

[storm forum]

I don't mind puzzlebox, I think it's funny that we're in full combat with a mob of 35 evil plants or a couple dragons and we go "don't mind me, just solving a little puzzle"

[lunar hazel]

Acting like I kicked your dog 🤣

[outer marlin]

i constantly say 'hold on lemme solve my puzzle'

[lunar hazel]

Precisely

[lunar hazel]

Thats pretty much how I feel about it. I just find it fairly bothersome.

[hard grail]

Hey lil bro if you're trying to figure out if you should do %30 less damage so you can not press your trinket - maybe it doesnt matter what you do

or what anyone tells you

[lunar hazel]

Ask a simple question and this edgelord has to act like someone stole his gf

I also never said i wouldn't use it or dont use it. I just hate the trinket

[hard grail]

"I wasn't asking about using it"

"Do you guys think it's worth using it?"

[lunar hazel]

Bro thats literally a hypothetical 🤣

[hard grail]

Oh so now it's hypothetical, got it

yeah muted

[pliant remnant]

hypothetical

just asking for a friend

[hard grail]

XD

yeah

[pliant remnant]

(the friend is the voice in my head)

[lunar hazel]

Not my fault I said something about your special toy and you get butthurt 🤣

[normal mist]

Guy A - it's annoying missing 2 seconds of fun solving a box while everyone is pressing abilities and jumping around like little kids having fun...
Guy B - SO YOU YOU THINK NOT USING IT AND LOSING LIKE XYZ DMG IS WORTH IT??

[hard grail]

yuh

[lunar hazel]

Lmao dude cant take someone talking about his favorite little toy 🤣

[normal mist]

Puzzlebox has always been annoying to use

That's why the gif exist

[pliant remnant]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923750073499648/1487567692931010621/puzzlebox.gif

[normal mist]

Ty

[pliant remnant]

I'm really enjoying Survival on my hunter but ngl

Puzzy B is very close to ruining it for me

(also on assa but I'm kinda re-discovering Outlaw rn)

[normal mist]

I'm playing sub now and got myself the 1:30 trinket from VS today so yeah I ain't farming it

[pliant remnant]

And yeh Guidon on Sub

[normal mist]

I was using feather from windrunner

[pliant remnant]

Puzzle Box is just such a pustule on some fun specs

[normal mist]

On a 1:30 spec

[hard grail]

Guidon slaps for sub

[normal mist]

There was only 1 channel I didn't mind using, which was the trinket from vault of the incarnates, the one that kept reseting as your teammates died

That was actually fun

[pliant remnant]

Grieftorch

We could move during the channel though IIRC?

I think

[normal mist]

First we couldnt

Then we could

During.... Fated?

[fallow canopy]

Grieftorch my beloved

[pliant remnant]

I think I only got one in uhh

Whatever it was called

[fallow canopy]

I wanna say before that but I honestly can't remember

[pliant remnant]

Awakened, when the raids were re-released in the last season

[lunar hazel]

Lol its funny I ask a hypothetical question about preference and mr.edgy takes it as a personal attack

[pliant remnant]

and by then you could move, so it was chill

[normal mist]

It's fine we can move on

[pliant remnant]

I also really liked using the wind elemental trinket and Shadowstepping it if something was on me

[lunar hazel]

Don't mention puzzle box 🤣

[normal mist]

We're talking about cooler stuff now

[lunar hazel]

I jumped chat didnt see cooler stuff!

[hard grail]

Clown boy still yapping clearly

[radiant raven]

Bring it back, I miss it so

[pliant remnant]

Yes please

Grieftorch was great

[fallow canopy]

Get a room and make peace

[lunar hazel]

Edgy girl cant take a slight on his pixelated toy box 😅

[hard grail]

I forget what it did

[normal mist]

I was so thankful for all the shamans that reincarnated mid fight just to die again

[pliant remnant]

G-GIRL?!

awooga

[fallow canopy]

Amen

[lunar hazel]

"Girl" yeah lol

[fallow canopy]

It was funny seeing high logs with crazy torch damage

[radiant raven]

Puzzle box goes in the sea, where it belongs.

[hard grail]

Can someone tell that clown to link his warcraft logs

I think we can all know what we are going to see

[radiant raven]

We're all clowns here

[pliant remnant]

It was also funny seeing high logs with like 25 PIs

Good times...

[normal mist]

@lunar hazel @hard grail I don't care who started it or who'll end it, but I'll only ask once for you two to tone it down

[fallow canopy]

Move on people

[hard grail]

Imagine calling someone edgy

and then typing this

[lunar hazel]

@normal mist Yeah sure. If its annoying people I can respect that

[hard grail]

hahahahahha

X

D

nahhhhhhhh bnro

nah

[iron thorn]

yo this is not my wholesome assa chat

[storm forum]

mods the tourists are fighting again

[iron thorn]

let's talk about femboys again pls

ty

[swift wing]

[hard grail]

Thoughts?

[red schooner]

Whispyr is typing, RUN

[storm forum]

[balmy condor]

I’m just here

[storm forum]

hi whispyr

[fallow canopy]

Hello just here

[red schooner]

Hi whispyr

[storm forum]

how's the maplestory going?

[balmy condor]

Vibes

[storm forum]

pog

[hard grail]

I always see that and always think "wow he really likes that game"

[balmy condor]

Gotta do more d4 work though

[storm forum]

alas

[iron thorn]

d4 bad

[balmy condor]

It doesn’t kick you for being afk

[normal mist]

New expansion gonna be a banger

Believe

[balmy condor]

So I just got it perma

[hard grail]

Lol

[iron thorn]

or are we talking about another d4?

[balmy condor]

Tab in, do a daily or two

Tab out

[radiant raven]

Are you excited to play Diablo 4 or not excited to play Diablo 4.

[balmy condor]

New expansion Tuesday and it’s really good

[storm forum]

the plight of being paid to write and not paid to brain off farm korean mmos

[balmy condor]

Idk if I’m excited, I already played it so like, that part is gone

[radiant raven]

Oh, neat.

[balmy condor]

But it’s good

I will play

And enjoy

[radiant raven]

I'm excited to Warlock it up

[hard grail]

What makes it good, IYO? I quit for POE2 because it felt like you win D4 in like 5 days

[iron thorn]

i became one of those yucky poe1 players that cannot imagine d4 being good

[normal mist]

More choices are always good

Yet I'll play my shitty paladin and use wing strikes build

[radiant raven]

I am very curious to see the class split % after a week or two, and if it's like, 80% warlock

[hard grail]

yup but i want d4 to be good, just hasnt felt good

[radiant raven]

that build was so much fun

[balmy condor]

They did a lot of good changes to itemization, it still won’t be like giga 2 month grind, it’s Diablo after all

[latent kernel]

How do you feel about the duping glitches, I’ve heard mixed opinions, when I played there was a huge disconnect between the amount of gold you could make legitimately and then the amount of gold people were charging for items

[balmy condor]

But there’s actual gear chase

[normal mist]

It was extremely fun, until I found Auradin........

[hard grail]

I like that

[balmy condor]

I play solo, so doesn’t bother me at all

[iron thorn]

do i need the expansion to play the game properly?

[radiant raven]

I was Auradin and then swapped to Wing Strike Auradin thing and then I ran out of content in that season

[balmy condor]

Yes

[iron thorn]

eh

[normal mist]

Same but vice versa

[radiant raven]

Hah

[normal mist]

I farm up to 100-110 and I cba going up

[balmy condor]

It’s real shitty from blizz to make a bad game for 3 years and then ask for money for the fix

But such is life

[hard grail]

TRUE

[radiant raven]

Yeah

[fathom minnow]

yo guys, how do u sim assa for m+?
5t 5 min, or ds?

[normal mist]

Dslice

[balmy condor]

Ds

[radiant raven]

but they added fishing.

So now it's an actual RPG

[balmy condor]

True, good system

[hard grail]

I said that yesterday to my buddy - "Released shit game, then fixed it and asked for $40"

[latent kernel]

I think it’s the same shit as D3 where people shat on it until they got the rose tinted nostalgia goggles and now everyone loves it

[balmy condor]

There was zero fishing in the press release we had to go figure it out

[radiant raven]

I should be able to, as a Warlock, make my demons fish. And as a Barbarian, I should be able to just shout at the water

[balmy condor]

I think this is Diablo 4’s reaper of souls

But like

[normal mist]

I spit my drink

[balmy condor]

We shouldn’t pretend that d3 pre-RoS was any good either

[radiant raven]

The season before last def felt a lot closer to D3 RoS.

So I'm very excited to see them build on that.

[balmy condor]

D3 gets love because people remember RoS, not the boring slop that was there before that

[latent kernel]

I was a day 1 enjoyer of Diablo 3 to be completely honest, I was also 9 when that shit came out so there wasn’t too much to base my opinion on

[normal mist]

The only thing that annoys me in d4 is not having a demon hunter so I can get a proper multishot build. Rogue can do it in d4 but it sucks

[iron thorn]

holy shit wapples younger than me

[radiant raven]

Maybe with the expansion...

[hard grail]

Ithink d3 became quite good after a few patches

[iron thorn]

i'm not the only baby

[radiant raven]

I can't vibe with Rogue in D4, for some reason. Not sure why, but it's my least favourite class.

[iron thorn]

i like the launch rogue build

[normal mist]

Same and I only played two

[iron thorn]

the blade one

[radiant raven]

Barbarian is an absolute ton of fun but I wish I could hide the other weapons from the Arsenal (and the Arse feels pretty mid compared to other classes). Druid is really fucking cool, but sorta runs outta flashy steam sooner than not.

[latent kernel]

I remember I bought the $100 maxed pre order version of Diablo 4 assuming blizzard had learned from Diablo 3, and then the game dropped and I played for a total of 6 hours before uninstalling

[iron thorn]

i played the campaign twice

[radiant raven]

Same

[iron thorn]

once alone and once with my dad and brother

was fun

[radiant raven]

Had a ton of fun with the campaign. Then the first two seasons were.. eeeeeh. And then I dropped it until this expansion pre-order, had an insane amount of fun as Paladin. It was cool seeing how much it changed.

[iron thorn]

can you do something like righteous fire in poe?

[hard grail]

I know I pissed that kid off cuz now im getting notifications that someone I have ignored is requesting to send me DM's

[iron thorn]

i bet that would be on paladin

[hard grail]

got 'em

[radiant raven]

Auradin can do something like that yeah

One of the Aura's does damage to stuff around you and you can build it up to do more and do other stuff. So you can run about blowing stuff up passively.

[iron thorn]

[radiant raven]

it does fall off later on (or did when I played) but you can mix it with some other abilities.

[iron thorn]

so does rf

lol

[radiant raven]

It's not quite RF but it's the same vibe.

[indigo mulch]

do we believe in the SD dream on dragons? 😄

[iron thorn]

[indigo mulch]

Don't think it works on hc, to many geared people with burst aoe D:

I got rank 1 on normal with it but that group had no aoe lmao

[craggy sierra]

Just coming back to sin after a while, do we still need to have envenom before we hit kingsbane?

[indigo mulch]

Yes

[craggy sierra]

ty

[royal lantern]

what

[indigo mulch]

?

Sudden demise and giga pad on orbs 😄

[royal lantern]

mate

you apply 2 dots each

[indigo mulch]

Yes?

[royal lantern]

where the orbs alive for like 30 seconds lol

[indigo mulch]

😄

They really aren't alive for 30s what

I'm doing hc atm kekw

[buoyant herald]

Lucky if they’re alive for 3

[indigo mulch]

lets go

[distant mesa]

is archon talents ok to use?

[indigo mulch]

I don't even know what archon recommends lol

D;

[indigo mulch]

wowhead is a good bet 😄

[runic hinge]

@haughty flicker

[distant mesa]

is shiv no longer a dps cooldown inside kingsbane?

[normal mist]

no

[iron thorn]

read the wowhead guide mate

it's very good

[distant mesa]

I avoid that whole website if possibly tbh

[coral ibex]

why's that

[distant mesa]

it bluescreens pc

[coral ibex]

lmao

[waxen oyster]

💀

[fallow canopy]

Thats crazy

[waxen oyster]

i sometimes have websites not fully work

from having 3-4 adblock/spam blockers

[fallow canopy]

Same. But blue screen is next level

[indigo mulch]

sudden demise on dragons lmao played it pretty bad though i kept energy starving myself before orb spawn ;C

[onyx veldt]

day 4 of trying to get invited for chim

[indigo mulch]

Don't think its worth it tbh ;C

[onyx veldt]

i wanna try my luck on gaze...

[royal lantern]

you try to get into a mythic group without a kill

thats like

what do you expect

[brave gyro]

That's why if you know you will pug, you rush to get a kill first couple weeks. It's rough otherwise

[onyx veldt]

yea i didnt know that

im new

https://tenor.com/view/cute-blinking-blinking-eyes-eyes-blinking-cute-face-gif-17335643218552398559

[brave gyro]

[royal lantern]

if you wanna do mythic raids

get a guild that does it

pugging mythic raids is not REALLY a bigger thing

[onyx veldt]

i lowkey dont wanna do mythic raids

[coral ibex]

yea it was only a thing in tww because for a few tiers the early bosses were very easy

[severe meadow]

Pugs on dragons would go crazy

[frosty cedar]

mythic is goated bro

[indigo mulch]

How do you even get half decent logs on cosmos? 🙁

I keep blue logging on that boss :/

[normal mist]

you should have parsed on reset day

[indigo mulch]

I mean i just wanted to do something about my horrible logs lmao i feel shame.

rip sanity

[worn geyser]

you can still orange not on reset day, u can do what i do and steal backshotbots cooldown usage from lorrigs lmao

[frosty cedar]

[balmy condor]

I stole backshots lorrgs info too

[thorn thorn]

@royal lantern

I am the braincell