assassination

[royal lantern]

i cant read

[oak tangle]

i think it's likely that other's logs havent been filtered, aint no way we all got greens in my raid too

[knotty vapor]

Praying they fix it

[oak tangle]

can confirm, rankings don't match the log dps

the rank 1 parse is only a 78

lol

[tall jay]

Is there a way to run a sim of raids AND dungeons at the same time

[wanton lava]

no

you have to just open 2 tabs on raidbots

[tall jay]

Ok and then compare right

[wanton lava]

yea

[oak tangle]

top gear, add in all the items you give a shit about

ez

but also tedious

[wanton lava]

that to

[tall jay]

And we can add all
The crafted gear with a string somewhere right

[gilded oasis]

@balmy condor please stop exploring, you didn't pack enough provisions for this long of an expedition

[storm forum]

Did whispyr talk about the crit damage ring enchant buff yet?

[golden loom]

whats there to talk about

it was already good, now its better

[storm forum]

The guide was recommending haste enchants, was wondering if the crit damage ones are better now but this is probably just a "Sim yo self" question huh

[golden loom]

well it always was a sim yo self

[storm forum]

[tame charm]

on sub i fucked my m+ stats and went full crit for raid do the stats differ for assa or outlaw

[storm forum]

Idk shit about sub or ol but assa loves crit.

!stats

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Stats
You will always get more accurate results using Raidbots Top Gear, as stat values will flucuate depending on gear and situation.

Agility (Item level) > Crit > Haste > Mastery >>>> Vers
The ratio between secondaries ends up being roughly 40/33/26/1

[polar jasper]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Resources:

• ArcUI - Common UI Replacement
  BetterCDM - Enhancements to the Cooldown Manager
• MSUF - Common Unit Frame replacement
• Platynator - Recommended Nameplate Addon (Plater is not recommended)
  (Jundies Profile)
  (Whispyr's Profile)
  Misc:
• Clickable Raid Buffs - Poison Reminder
• WilduTools - random QoL like melee range indicator and cursor replacement

[tame charm]

i noticed all three rogue spec are now crit haste

which is very nice for multi spec-ing

[ruby bolt]

kinda nice though for assa that you dont have to rebalance m+ since you just run puzzle

for sub I kind of swapped mastery rings in

[storm forum]

Nice for everyone else cause my N key is broken

[buoyant ember]

Good morning, Im working on Nullaeus today.. and I am struggling to get the last add down before I get swalloed up by damage. Are there any secrets/tips like spec adjustments cd management that anyone has?
Assassination ilvl 271

[hollow escarp]

wonder if I should bonus roll as outlaw in PiT since I have 289/285 weapons

[uncut orbit]

yo im a bit newer to rogue than other classes, i see that icyveins says to use thistle tea in kingsbane. am i saving all the charges for kb? since it gets auto used on low energy do i just stall buttons when im low to save them, and once in kb am i manually pressing tea or just let it get autoused when spamming envenom/mutilate? any advice would be great

[wanton lava]

Do we bonus roll on puzzlebox first even if we are able to kill mythic chimaerus?

[hollow escarp]

I tried, and got bracers

[clever granite]

yo o/. when we reapply improved garrotes midfight for our second DM do we also go for 2 casts for the increased duration or is that only worth on the beginning of the fight ?

[knotty vapor]

yeah apparently I'm rank 181 with a 33 lmao

that shit broken as hell

[royal lantern]

ignore tea exists

there is no minmaxing for it

if it procs, it procs

[knotty vapor]

its a tiny dps loss to not save for kb

[opal pike]

What are the two slots best for embelishment crafts for us this season?

[knotty vapor]

I much prefer to just let it proc and let my gameplay feel better

[opal pike]

Is off hand dagger craft better than another myth dagger?

[knotty vapor]

yes cuz offhand damage is meaningless

but embelishment isn't

[sacred oyster]

i think the better question is, is the ilvl boost meaningful to outpace the embelishment boost

[royal lantern]

no it isnt

[opal pike]

yeah sorry

[knotty vapor]

it used to be?

did that change recently?

whispyr straight-up told me it was like 1% sometime last season

[runic hinge]

it was not 1% last season for sure

[opal pike]

I might end up with 2 myth daggers tonight and I don't know if that means I should craft another piece armor to embelish or use 2 daggers

[runic hinge]

it was within margin

[knotty vapor]

maybe 2?

[runic hinge]

plus if you sent a tea with shiv it was always up for kb so it didnt matter

[royal lantern]

it was not 1% last season

[weary stump]

Tea should be rebranded to caffeine IV drip to be More accurate

[royal lantern]

and last season is not even this season

• you know

you literally CANT have "no tea for KB"

cus both are 1min cd lol

[uncut orbit]

i didnt expect to just ignore tea icl

[royal lantern]

well, we never really payed attention to it

[oak tangle]

having read whispyr type before, i'd believe it was more akin to "technically it's better but it's like 0.1% so who the fuck cares"

[royal lantern]

df/tww it was "macro with KB and ignore it exists"

now its "ignore it exists"

[uncut orbit]

if i ignore it tho i sometimes find myself with like only one or no charges of tea on my second kingsbane so clearly im trolling somewhere then

[plush isle]

that addon works pretty good

[knotty vapor]

maybe not literally 1? He said it didn't matter that much and if you preferred the feel of having more energy to just do that

[oak tangle]

learn to do your second kb without a tea

[lyric sierra]

Quick question: If i wanna play with Sudden Demise, what is the best trade-off in the default build, to get the 2 points free for it?

[knotty vapor]

it's been almost a year now so I don't remember anymore

[sacred oyster]

the build is on WH site

[runic hinge]

there's a weekly key build on wowhead

with SD

[oak tangle]

absolute best trade off is to forgo the sudden deminse talents

[uncut orbit]

whats there to learn its just build into envenom rinse and repeat right what am i missing

[oak tangle]

idk, you're the one who said it like not having tea was an issue

[royal lantern]

nothing

[knotty vapor]

I honestly thought just letting tea proc would be even better this season because of energy problems

[uncut orbit]

it just feels bad being out of energy so i assumed i was griefing ok fair enough

[royal lantern]

nah

you run out of energy at some points

[lime edge]

You should def try and have a tea charge when doing bosses in m+

[royal lantern]

thats assa for the last decade

[lime edge]

Otherwise its pain

[weary stump]

Swap to devourer

[royal lantern]

can we not act as if feelcrafty stuff is a fact?

[lime edge]

Im not talking about feelcraft?

Im talking about the boss dying faster is more important than random mobs

Lol

[uncut orbit]

ok ty for the advice peeps i am freeing myself of the devourer brainrot this season

[oak tangle]

fun fact, you probs spend more time killing trash than bosses

[lime edge]

U actually probably dont

[foggy flint]

You sure devourer to rogue is the swap you're looking for

[weary stump]

The things I vibe with specifically are more important than the facts; thus it's time to use potion bombs instead of lights potential

[royal lantern]

i really really really doubt that you having a single charge of tea more will have any impact on the boss killtimer

[lime edge]

Tea obviously does something

What

[runic hinge]

think about the 3 mutilates you can do

[uncut orbit]

its braindead and i have no real gear to chase that doesnt involve some sort of masochism

[fallow canopy]

Humongous gains

[lime edge]

If tea didnt give dmg u wouldnt take it as a talent

[runic hinge]

because everything else is worse

[weary stump]

I'm worse, true

[runic hinge]

maybe tea gives you .5% but every other damage talent in the tree is .3%

[lime edge]

3 mutilates is like 2.5 envenoms

So yea pretty good

[spare flume]

just saw petko puts sub over assa in m+, you guys agree ?

[runic hinge]

you think the assa channel thinks sub is better than assa in m+?

[runic hinge]

you cant count the energy to envenom when you already used it all to mutilate

[oak tangle]

assa and sub are united in fighting outlaw

[lime edge]

Are u not getting energy back

Huh

[fallow canopy]

People still overthinking tea in the year of our lord 2026

[little tulip]

assassin is so good

i have nothing but nice things to say about it

[lime edge]

Im talking about the combo points mutilate is generating

[little tulip]

except when i die

[oak tangle]

they removed all unnecessary buttons, like shiv etc cause they were too hard

[little tulip]

[oak tangle]

so of course they removed tea..... oh wait

[dire flume]

!tricks

[prisma monolith]

Auto Tricks on tank Addon - TankMD

[little tulip]

would be nice if shiv was a way to get improved garrote

on top of vanish

[oak tangle]

wot

[little tulip]

so we don't have to use vanish as a dps cooldown

[oak tangle]

they should have stuck to their design philosophy of decoupling stealth, and just removed imp garrote

[little tulip]

arterial precision was a fun talent tho

[runic hinge]

wait i lied, tea is 100 energy, mutilate is 50, so one tea is 2 mutilates, thats it, thats all you're getting, its not some magic potion giving you tons of energy

[oak tangle]

you could stretch it to 1 mut and maybe 1 envenom, so 20 inplac stacks, so some percentage of energy regen later

[runic hinge]

sure but in the scheme of a whole boss fight in m+ we're not talking about a single tea charge changing much in the way of your energy economy

[oak tangle]

oh, don't get me wrong, i'm not arguing for it, just pleading the dumbest case

[lime edge]

I mean 100 is quite a bit

[runic hinge]

2 mutilates bro

it is not

lol

[gilded oasis]

yes, it does

[wide halo]

i have noticed ironwire is not on the main m+ line, is there no way to bring it in? i kind of like it tbh

[lime edge]

It only applies to the 1 garrote target

[normal mist]

you can't spread the silence

[onyx crane]

better to use pocket sand

[wide halo]

Yeah i guess it is kind of bad, what is this pocket sand thing? I mainly wanted to help my group with some specific mobs that deal a bunch of damage and I figured trading a bit of damage for it might be worth it

[royal depot]

oh when talking about garrote, is it confirmed at this point that in improved garrote window we get 1 cp for each garrote after first one?

[oak tangle]

no idea, but it should definitely be confirmed that the spec is a buggy mess

functional

but buggy

[random pelican]

I only get one point per after the initial 3 point garrote

[royal depot]

hm it just would be nice to slap double garrote, rupture and go into cds in m+

[oak tangle]

quite

[lime edge]

The poison application from garrote doesn't work right

From 2 set

[loud light]

pretty sure it 'works' just not the way you'd like

just procs off your direct cast of it

(not CT)

[humble verge]

@golden loom

[gray raven]

at first i read the tier set as each tick of garrote applying poison which would have been sweet

sadly not

[golden loom]

[subtle tundra]

it works just like it says it does. when you use garrote

[lime edge]

I mean it doesnt say on use at all

The wording should be different if its meant for that

"On using garrote apply your weapon poisons"

[subtle tundra]

maybe i dont rember it word for word

i just know that i read it and knew how it worked

but I'm him

cant expect everyone to be

[storm forum]

I also thought every tick would apply poisons at first glance but my second thought was "no way, that's too busted"

[lime edge]

In my mind that reads as it applies your poisons once

Not the bonus instant dmg part

So you get ur deadly on everything

For example

But it doesnt do that

[subtle tundra]

how could it on everything if its single target

[lime edge]

When u spread with ct

[subtle tundra]

i dont expect anything to spread through ct

[gray raven]

"Garrote's damage applies your weapon poisons"

[lime edge]

Well yea thats the problem

[subtle tundra]

i genuinely think internal bleeding is an oversight

[lime edge]

[storm forum]

I was reading "Garrote's damage" as the subject at first, so the "it" was referring to everytime garrote did damage.

alas, blizz hates us

[subtle tundra]

blizz hates me personally

every rework of bleed spread has been against me person

[weary stump]

Just wait until they make it so bleed has to be spread by ct for garrote and a CT variant for rupture

Different abilities per bleed you want spread

[lime edge]

Also why is ct only 2 targets

Who made this

They should make it so if ct crits it spreads to 2 more

[storm forum]

[worn geyser]

i think i asked this before, but like on dragons, does it matter ur positioning for spatter or naw, does spatter like go 12 yard from middle of hitbox or like 12 yards from the edge of the hitbox circle?

[royal lantern]

middle of hitbox OF THE ENEMY

not you

[worn geyser]

well ye, but on some bosses like gallywix before ur positioning mattered, bc box hitbox so massive

[royal lantern]

dragons should stand close enough that you can cleave

if they dont, you will have like 20000 other dps in your raid cry about it, trust me

[lime edge]

Spatter does some other thing when boss hit box is bigger than spatter

[royal lantern]

[worn geyser]

ya thats what im wondering idk if the boss hitbox is big enough to do the weird venndiagram shit with positioning or not, or if its just gg put orbs inside of boss hitbox

[lime edge]

Idk if this is what ur supposed to do but

In dragons I was using the adds to spread the bleeds from 1 boss to the other

[worn geyser]

luckily i dont have that problem on mythic since the drags are stacked, im mostly just wondering if i need to move to be ontop of the orbs when slamming envenoms when they spawn to actually spatter them, cause boss hitbox is kinda massive i dont think my spatter is reaching them consistently based on how my raid places them

[sacred oyster]

I ran the sim, Hunt does outpace a mythic offhand even with voidcores factored in

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/rGfzhzxcBVB28p5sshD7EF

the 285 non voidcore offhand still beats a 298 myth off hand even.

[opal pike]

you are an absolute star

appreciate this

[lime edge]

It shouldn't be that big of a difference

U forgot to get another embellishment

[sacred oyster]

?

[lime edge]

If u dont use hunt embellish

U gotta put it somewhere else no

[sacred oyster]

its 1.2% difference at non voidcore https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/pi2c2kZ1fypMk63Pgqwauu

oh, fair

that voidcore topgear sim was weird with how it showed % difference, they got some bug there

[lime edge]

When i checked, 294 crafted embellished offhand barely beat a 298 mythic

But we know its 295 now too

So u dont need 2 myth weps at all

Still

But it was close

Like 0.2%

[lyric sierra]

am i blind? where?

[sacred oyster]

mythic weekly keys build

[lyric sierra]

ah nice, thx! my browser suxx and killed the tabs above the builds. it is in the 2nd weekly keys tab. THX a lot

[worn geyser]

ah nvm i found nooj post about it from like 10 days ago, its cooked then cause 1 target(other dragon) is inside of boss hitbox spatter anyway so the secondary range check just doesnt happen i guess , so if orbs are 12 yards from middle of hitbox its just gg

now i gotta just convince my raid to stack under boss when orbs come out so i can pad

[runic hinge]

hit box has to be huge for it to work witth the secondary check

[coral ibex]

the orbs should be getting mass gripped together

that shouldn't be necessary

if your raid isn't gripping adds in or otherwise gathering them up

idk

[worn geyser]

they get mass gripped but like sometimes not even within melee range of the boss for me

[coral ibex]

well your dk is not very good

[worn geyser]

true

[coral ibex]

because they are supposed to grip to one in melee

and the front line of drops should be well within boss hitbox

[true tusk]

yo, and this build? actually works?

[worn geyser]

ye the raid im subbing in for is just some friends im tryna help out while i M+, they are not like elite kinda players, and ye the orbs typically are like this sometimes, where white area is melee range ig and skull is orb

but ig my spatter do not be hitting them sometimes then thats fine, just wanted to make sure i wasnt going insane or could play around it by positioning diff

[royal lantern]

ez gaze bonus roll

[sacred oyster]

thats the demise build, i guess i used one of my sims from when i was on that lol. its for like < 12 keys

[true tusk]

seems like for < 12 keys can be a perfect option, you tested changing secondary poisoning by amplifying poison?

i think you can get a lot more out of it with that change

[sacred oyster]

i just run dead/atrophic and overall im gaining +10k DPS using demise build over normal build on 10 keys

oh you mean to change what talents the build has?

[true tusk]

yes

[sacred oyster]

ive not messed with it but im sure whisp prob simmed it.

[true tusk]

i just tested it with different variations right now, do you want to see it?

[safe swift]

anyone know talents for the sudden demise build?

[spring pike]

same! cant even upgrade it 😂

[balmy condor]

Yes

[true tusk]

im currently testing options based on the build that aikar linked, if you want i can show you the results later

[balmy condor]

Wowhead.com

[safe swift]

isn't the sudden demise build better with deathstalker?

[safe swift]

i looked i didn't see a sudden demise build on there

[balmy condor]

Nothing is better with deathstalker

[frosty cedar]

we hate deathstalker

[sinful fable]

Wondering if its worth continuing to torture myself trying to learn outlaw again or just stick with assa for the chill. outlaw sims higher but im contemplating if I'm too shit at it to actually gain any dps over assa :/

[balmy condor]

It’s there I promise

[runic hinge]

sims are not good tools for comparing specs

[sinful fable]

Yeah I know, been doing some keys as both trying to compare and its kinda ever, outlaw does do abit more boss dmg tho but does that even matter if I'm not really feeling it 💔 but kinda dont want to int my m+ buddies either, so quite the perdicament

[snow kindle]

Outlaw aint easy but its gotten much more simple in midnight

[lime edge]

Isnt outlaw giga aids in m+

Smoke cloud in general i mean

So sub too

[cinder mountain]

what is the best way to gear alts after 12.0.5 does anyone have idea

[sinful fable]

yeah smoke is not helping with visibility thats for sure. and yeah outlaw aint easy for sure, but I've played it before but my lame ass experience tells me that assa is easier to get my dmg out of in m+

[sacred oyster]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/s87vSuJd3sSoLzfhm9Q2yD

compared with a 2nd arcanoweave or loa worshippers band (are there any other embellishments worth considering?) and none of them beat farstriders with hunt.

[sinful fable]

whilst being less stressfull

[true tusk]

I tested a second option, can i link the results?

[sacred oyster]

look for the weekly keys subtab on the mythic section

[true tusk]

With 2 changes i lose 800 dps in aoe but i winn 4,2k in st

Better in overall

[sacred oyster]

@balmy condor prob should just put it under the general talent list for Fatebound as a line item there.

since ppl seem to be struggling to find it

[true tusk]

ST results with some changes: https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/fP9bdNHVZeFwyBocvQYviq

[balmy condor]

I'm not gonna really look at it cause I don't particularly care

[true tusk]

AoE: https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/81TP5TzWSa45QaXgpmGTYJ

[sacred oyster]

you need to sim dungeon slice, not 2 diff sims

[sinful fable]

Totally random comment from a nobody, but I just wanted to say thank you for what you do. That is all

[storm forum]

thrown for doomblade is uhh

feels wrong

[true tusk]

Bro, in 6 min you are not in boss (Pit of Saron like exemple)

[balmy condor]

appreciate you

[storm forum]

secondary for concoction always seems fine

[sacred oyster]

the idea is to balance a mixture of boss killing and packs

and some silly tanks do go the clockwise route so you may end up in kricks in 6 mins lol (i hate that damn route though, so inefficient)

[true tusk]

true

[elfin wigeon]

so do we have any way to circumvent the implacable tracking bug? any addons?

[sacred oyster]

Nooka Implaccable addon

[lime edge]

@balmy condor negotiable contract is probably op with sudden demise trust the process

[elfin wigeon]

❤️

[sharp viper]

what a build

[true tusk]

we are talking about sudden demise on low M+

[sacred oyster]

@true tusk https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/2DGbLcV5ctJSakhsT48tqY your build is -1% in DS. Ultimately that means in practical M+ genericness, it will be a downgrade. its not worth the trade offs in AOE.

[true tusk]

Ok thanks a lot!

[sacred oyster]

which im confused how your AOE test showed higher since you took away AOE specific stuff

[sharp viper]

do builds even matter on low m+?

[true tusk]

like assa rogue, yes

[sacred oyster]

time is money ,you should optimize to complete the key as quick as possible.

[true tusk]

+1

[sacred oyster]

now, if you had other high dps or high burst classes, its prob not a time difference, which is whispers argument for it being 'fake' damage.

since someone else would just kill it instead

[true tusk]

dunno

[sacred oyster]

but i like the demise build as sometimes you dont and it could result in a time improvement lol

[marsh fjord]

Don't feed his ego

[sacred oyster]

though another benefit of demise is when chains start chain pulling, the aoe efficiency of other classes will degrade some as the mobs start to get declustered, but your bleeds will still tick and then have their bleed refresh and instantly bleed out on a mob that may have not been hit by the others depending on if they redirected their attacks to the newer pack.

[idle loom]

Any of you cool kids noticed a slight delay between pressing mutilate and combo points loading in? Or is it my garbage add-ons?

[humble verge]

@golden loom icl L'ura is so fun

[sacred oyster]

ive not noticed that, i just struggle with pressing envenom and it not firing off and then going back to mut/fok and end up wasting a generator becasue my envenom didnt fire. i want to look into a macro/addon to make mut/fok do envenom instead if i have 5+ cp if the addon api allows it.

i wish wow's action api queued in same way FFXIV does, 14's just felt more responsive

[idle loom]

I've noticed evenom not happening immediately too

[proper rain]

do i bind this bad boy to something or does it just disrupt my gameplay now for slightly more dps?

[royal lantern]

you cant bind it

[sacred oyster]

significantly more dps

[proper rain]

I like the words you're saying

[silk barn]

tinker with your spell queue window

[proper rain]

where may a slightly dysfunctional and intelligence derived player like me read about its usage?

[silk barn]

the usage of puzzle box is you press it after your envenom that you do right before deathmark + kingsbane

[proper rain]

is this during the time im spreading my dots in aoe or after?

[silk barn]

u do it right before deathmark

it is always synced with deathmark

[keen raven]

Puzzle box is too op to not run unfortunately

[proper rain]

garrote, fok, rupture, envenom, box, deathmark, kingsbane, ct envenom spam? is that the aoe?

[silk barn]

yes

[proper rain]

thanks

[viscid spear]

Always use it at the same time as Deathmark. In AoE situations like keys, be sure to target the biggest add, apply bleeds, CT off it, then Envenom->Box/DM and spam FoK and Envenoms

[proper rain]

might be a stupid question bu CT off it as in get all bleeds up or just CT once?

[viscid spear]

Get all your bleeds up, yes

Should've said "CT your bleeds on everything"

[coral ibex]

it should be like this

(ct to 5+ cp of course, not just one cast)

[spare flume]

I like garrotte > fan to 5 > rup > garotte more

[coral ibex]

bit of an unnecessary delay

in aoe at least

[spare flume]

why

[coral ibex]

because that's one more gcd than the picture

before you start cds

[spare flume]

no ?

[coral ibex]

gar gar gets you to 4 and fok always hits for 5

you can gar fok and not have 5cp

you can get 1cp from fok

[silk barn]

very rare btw

[spare flume]

eh rarely

[coral ibex]

[silk barn]

and garrote fucking slams in aoe

so more duration is poggers

[spare flume]

idk made more sense for me, but is worse when u dont get to full cp with fok

[inner atlas]

I flex my second garrote position based on the cp I hit after first FoK

Ideally it's after rupture to add extra time

Zerocool doesn't double garrote though. So idk

[lime edge]

I do gar gar fok rup ct envenom

Then cds

[proper rain]

fellas, box is big but disruptive, thanks for all the help

[autumn idol]

one question guys

is rogue kick range shorter than others

[proper rain]

much shorter than shamans

[autumn idol]

other melee specs where the wording is "melee range"

[proper rain]

I was being silly 🙁

it is the exact same range as Pummel (warrior)

and Rebuke (paladin)

[autumn idol]

i c

[proper rain]

fyi they all seem to be 5yards

[haughty flicker]

mfw i get the same item from bonus rolls 3 times in a row

because it was bugged and their fix for the bug doesnt fucking help anyone who was effected by the bug

great game

i love it

[azure carbon]

Oof.

[gilded oasis]

you really needed that item

[digital raft]

Crazy that you went at it a 3rd time after getting it twice.

[haughty flicker]

what exactly am i supposed to do

they already implemented their shit fix

[digital raft]

Wait for blizz to fix it or use the roll on a different dungeon pool.

[haughty flicker]

brother nexus point has 6/7 items that are good for my class

and blizzard already implemented their fix

there is no other fix coming

[runic hinge]

you can fix my nuts to your chin

jk luv u

[hard grail]

Can someone explain to me in a simple way the logic behind Sub simming 15k~ ahead on ST sims, but the majority of bosses Sin has higher boss damage? What's the reaosning for it?

[haughty flicker]

well sub wasnt simming that high before this patch

but also its bc sub presses black powder and actually tried to hurt adds

assa rogues gave up on that long ago

[untold flume]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-math-math-cat-numbers-cat-funny-gif-13385485103134761656

[digital raft]

If its still not working they'll have to fix it again. The last blue post said that they are going to share more info on how they plan to compensate players that received duplicates tomorrow.

[haughty flicker]

it isnt "still not working"

[bronze panther]

Is assa less rng reliant than sub?

[haughty flicker]

this is it working

its working exactly how they fixed it to work

[balmy condor]

all specs are roughly the same "rng"

[teal kettle]

make perma tricks global pls

[digital raft]

How is it working as intended if you are still getting duplicates?

[coral ibex]

how is sub an rng spec

[arctic knot]

kinda lazy but is there a macro for applying all 4 poisons ?

[haughty flicker]

newly rolled items remove

the old rolls didnt

[hard grail]

Gotcha, but warcraftlogs even on 12.0.5 patch sin is ahead on boss damage on most bosses

[balmy condor]

cause he rolled two, got a double hit, the new change fixes getting double, rolled a third, got the same item

[hard grail]

I was wondering how come

[balmy condor]

[digital raft]

Ok so you just have to wait until tomorrow to see how they compensate you. Hopefully you just get the voidcores back.

[balmy condor]

are you serious

[gilded oasis]

rng if you die of bordem or not

[coral ibex]

yea im serious wheres the rng other than damage rolls

you press dance you get x number of gcds

are we talking about shadowcraft stacks

[balmy condor]

legit just crits

5% base cause everything has 5% rng

and the crits alone

are bonkers

[bronze panther]

Swapping to sin i guess

https://tenor.com/view/sussy-cant-prove-it-dexter-meme-watching-you-gif-9798020366711361227

[coral ibex]

[onyx veldt]

its not ?

[coral ibex]

its just crits

get lucky

[hard grail]

I'm just curious why Sub sims 15k~ higher on ST and doing less boss damage than Sin on majority of bosses in a "explain like im 5" way. Or why that is happening

or opinions

[onyx veldt]

i need that emote

[coral ibex]

well 5m patchwerk sims end 30s after sub gets another set of cds

but also

sims from diff specs are not comparable

[spice surge]

Sub can padd on adds, all assa can do is hit boss

[waxen oyster]

People when a spec only tunnels boss

"Why spec high boss dps"

[hard grail]

So you're saying if Sub were to play the bosses the same way Sin rogues do and just slam boss, Sub would win as sims say? Basically?

[waxen oyster]

No it'd come down to fight timers

most likely

[spice surge]

Probably yes. But also idk where you got your 15k number from

[balmy condor]

he's comparing sims

[waxen oyster]

probably has a guidon and no puzzlebox

[balmy condor]

which isn't a good idea in the first place

but ya know

sims

[hard grail]

I mean my sim, I am 280iLvl and my ST Sub sim is 106k and my same Sin sim is 91.8k.

[waxen oyster]

you dont have a mythic puzzlebox

probably

[hard grail]

I have mythic gaze and guidon

but you right

[waxen oyster]

guidon isnt good for sin

lol

[random pelican]

I mean, my sub sims 108 and my sin sims 100 so its not that big a diff with pb

[digital elk]

/castsequence reset=5 Deadly Poison, Amplifying Poison;
/castsequence reset=5 Atrophic Poison, Crippling Poison;

edit it can just be one line:

/castsequence reset=5 Deadly Poison, Amplifying Poison,Atrophic Poison, Crippling Poison;

[waxen oyster]

Yeah i'd need to check my sin sim

[digital elk]

just spam it

[waxen oyster]

my sub is like 108.5

[balmy condor]

me praying for a day when we don't compare specs to each other using sims

[waxen oyster]

yeah

[balmy condor]

https://tenor.com/view/i-used-to-pray-for-times-like-this-celebrating-gif-6529507804860980052

[waxen oyster]

i just play for paladins and pretend im useful

boss

[waxen oyster]

im getting flashbacks

to anytime outlaw sims high

(every tier)

[onyx veldt]

GORF2x

[balmy condor]

It's also hilarious cause on the one hand the community has rallied behind "sims suck especially in dungeons, we hate sims, sims are stupid"

[onyx veldt]

stoll that shit

[balmy condor]

and then 10 minutes later someone shows up and is like "hey spec X is 1.2% better in sims, do I have to play it"

it's a hilarious flip

[coral ibex]

can you make like a 2-4 minute youtube video that explains this so i can have an official opinion

thank you

[balmy condor]

[waxen oyster]

"have to play it"

i gotta play it for my 12 keys man

[jolly stirrup]

Dear Diary,

Today i had a very bad raid day and now I am very sad

[brittle needle]

I wish! There is just to much info for people to gather these days and then they act like its the Bible!

[humble verge]

seems legit

[indigo mulch]

omg look at spreadsheet outlaw many damage. Sin not many damage. Pls whuspyur fix

[snow kindle]

we tell ppl to sim everday no matter what so makes sense

[true lintel]

is it normal to not reach 50 kingsbane stacks outside of deathmark

[tight ginkgo]

i just like playing all specs

[coral ibex]

yes

[rich remnant]

if you are low on energy then yeah ive found im ticking out at like 44 stacks

[coral ibex]

just keep envenom up as much as possible during kb

most of your poison applications come from melee swings

[teal kettle]

atleast both sin and outlaw use crit/haste

just gotta bonus roll skyreach for a mh/trink and you're gucci

[royal lantern]

can happen

but also like, not a big deal, so w/e

[haughty flicker]

real

[thorn thorn]

Somebody messed up the tank swap

[viral sage]

5 minutes ago

[humble verge]

why are you guys

still doing it

???

[sacred oyster]

did you obtain the first one from pre fix? from what i gather, anything done prefix is still screwed for removing it from pool

[viral sage]

yeah one alg last night one just now

[sacred oyster]

cant believe ppl using it on AA instead of POS. you have better chances at POS first that w/e you get is actually good

AA is PB and ring and maybe tier slots?

[runic hinge]

Gloves wrist

[sacred oyster]

wrist is horrible

[runic hinge]

Uhh

One other

[sacred oyster]

your gonna be using crafted wrist ideally

[runic hinge]

Yeah probably

[slim pebble]

Did you extra roll these both today?

[sacred oyster]

they answered that above to my Q

[runic hinge]

There’s a cloak in there

So really it’s just gloves and puzzyb

But the trinket is just kinda more important

[sacred oyster]

the ring is good if you dont have another myth ring

actually i think that rings better than the crafted ring

[viral sage]

I just need PB so thats why

[sacred oyster]

do you not have hero pb? the way i look at it, the odds of increasing your strength/ilvl is way better doing POS first. i got both belt and neck from my rolls, so i got pretty good from pit. belt is BIS of all belts, neck is BIS if you dont do myth raiding. so major win. still got BIS dagger to get too. ring from pit is nice but i do alread have 2 myth rings but wedding rings gonna prob be better than the crafted ring.

[viral sage]

already got myth wep, belt and neck and ring

[sacred oyster]

well i guess thats fair for not choosing pit then

i want to get kricks to voidforge though as i dont want to VF the offhand (until everything else is done), so ill be doing pit again next week. just sucks looks like i didnt remove the 2 rolls from my pool.

[spice spire]

Anyway going forward, it’s removed from your loot pool

Just kinda sucks anything pre didn’t

[waxen oyster]

i was betting on the chance of not getting a dupe

[spice spire]

Rolled both yesterday because I’m not a coward, got puzzy b, now I’m in pit hell

(I got stabber in vault)

[sacred oyster]

lucky, ik have a trinket bias in my vault so im hoping for pb in vault

[tall atlas]

!ui

[prisma monolith]

Resources:

• ArcUI - Common UI Replacement
  BetterCDM - Enhancements to the Cooldown Manager
• MSUF - Common Unit Frame replacement
• Platynator - Recommended Nameplate Addon (Plater is not recommended)
  (Jundies Profile)
  (Whispyr's Profile)
  Misc:
• Clickable Raid Buffs - Poison Reminder
• WilduTools - random QoL like melee range indicator and cursor replacement

[slim pebble]

I’m also in pit hell

[thorn thorn]

can i join you in hell

[spice spire]

You tryna get my pits?

[fallow canopy]

did someone say quake's pits

[thorn thorn]

maybe

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/hi-deniz-deniz-gif-23653159

[spice spire]

?

[tall atlas]

how do i get rid of this 🙁 @balmy condor

ive logged in for the first time since DF

[balmy condor]

idk what that is

[tall atlas]

is that not your old WA pack?

[balmy condor]

doesn't look like it

but weakauras doesn't exist anymore

so I'd be surprised if it still works

[tall atlas]

Nah it doesnt but idk how to get rid ofthis ive turned it off, i heard they got rid of all the wa's sad

[balmy condor]

then idk what that is

if you don't have weakauras then it can't be a weakaura :P

[tall atlas]

I have just deleted all the weak auras stuff from the addons folder lets see what happens

[balmy condor]

do you not have an addon manager

why are we deleting folders

[tall atlas]

yeah i do but idk felt right

its still there wth

[balmy condor]

are you sure it's not just the CDM

[thorn thorn]

[waxen oyster]

Idk why we're saying havent played since df and literally posting lou logs

undermine wasn't in DF

[haughty flicker]

/fstack and hover over it

and somewhere it'll show what addon its from

[tall atlas]

well i wish yo uwere here 10 mins ago i just deleted my whole wow folder

[primal parrot]

trying to sim salt and pepper rn

[spice surge]

Sim recommended to cut down on salt and butter, but i aint following that

[subtle tundra]

what about saturated fats

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-more-gif-21856591

[primal parrot]

butter?
are you following the french guide or what?

ive been recommended olive oil before... but butter? ur insane bro

[spice surge]

Ye, and im potatomaxxing

Very clear synergy with butter

[primal parrot]

u might aswell be doing oil with potato instead
try and run the fry build, it goes great with salt

[thorn thorn]

[lime edge]

wait so do they just get a free item

[sacred oyster]

i am a keto/carnivore follower, we dont tolerate this anti fat/salt/butter BS.

[balmy condor]

yep

[waxen oyster]

i was gonna say this benefits people who rolled the right item in raid on tuesday

assuming they dont need to roll that boss again

[crude wigeon]

good strat

[lime edge]

crazy

[crude wigeon]

s+ i would say

[haughty flicker]

well no

[sacred oyster]

is this real

[haughty flicker]

unless they just aret going to roll in the same place again

[sacred oyster]

i totally am

[haughty flicker]

because you can still just get that same item as a dupe

[lime edge]

yea but if u got puzzlebox

[haughty flicker]

some people do get off lucky af though

[lime edge]

and dont need anything else for aa

[haughty flicker]

if you're done in that spot

[waxen oyster]

yeah if you went into raid rolled the one item you wanted

[sacred oyster]

yeah but if you do get net new items thats a huge win lol

[lime edge]

then its free item

[waxen oyster]

and never roll there again

[haughty flicker]

then yeah at that point its just free

[waxen oyster]

you get a freebie

[haughty flicker]

someone i know rolled 4 times in spire, got all 4 items

and is now gonna get 4 more

[waxen oyster]

how'd they roll 4x

[haughty flicker]

two shit vaults

[waxen oyster]

wasnt the vault only 1 extra

[fresh kelp]

wait could you have left vaults stacked

[haughty flicker]

they had tokens from vault they hadnt spent on socket

yeah

[fresh kelp]

and then spammed coins into it

[waxen oyster]

LMFAO I guess

if you thought that ahead

[fallow canopy]

stonks

[fresh kelp]

they are gonna refund the coins i spent getting gaze

incredible

[fallow canopy]

I didn't get fucked but 2 extra coins

[fresh kelp]

now i can be 500 crests in debt instead of 300

[fallow canopy]

to the moon

[sacred oyster]

yeah my friend who is only on hero this week on alt chose coins so he can get to 10s this weekend for myth

i think they didnt announce it last week until most pppl had chose vault though right

[waxen oyster]

lowkey this system means

you should always get 3 vaults now even on shit toons

just for more rerolls

[balmy condor]

12.0.7 turbo boost surely

that way you can be 4000 crests in debt

but free farm!

[fresh kelp]

I only need 500 to be full 289

[waxen oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/job-job-application-jobless-gif-2757097081210871087

how to scare people who want uncap already

[fresh kelp]

they are dumping too many myth items into us

before crest uncap

[balmy condor]

yeah I mean

world of warcraft item system

the best there ever was!

[haughty flicker]

are we even gonna get crest uncap

considering the turbo boost is different this time

[balmy condor]

I have been saying it for 10 years at this point

gear in this game

is actually fucking horrendous

[lime edge]

real

[balmy condor]

acquiring it sucks

the timegating sucks

the stats aren't interesting

it doesn't do anything for your gameplay

[waxen oyster]

stats aren't interesting yet

people will write a fucking thesis

[bronze panther]

I used all so i get 3 back?

[lime edge]

yet

[waxen oyster]

on what secondaries to get

[balmy condor]

I struggle to actually think of a game where the itemization is worse

[lime edge]

d4

[balmy condor]

good joke

[lime edge]

actually

its prob not worse

[balmy condor]

d4 before expansion has better itemization and it's not close

tempering alone is already more interetsing than anything in wow

[lime edge]

in terms of arpgs, d4 is like at the bottom

i guess wow is just that cooked

[balmy condor]

correct

[thorn thorn]

Also reminder

That they could not refund crests for the recraft bug

But will refund the cores

[fallow canopy]

just don't get bugged

[zealous moth]

wth is blizzard cooking with this patch

[waxen oyster]

real

[fallow canopy]

🦐 issue

[waxen oyster]

i recrafted 2 items

[balmy condor]

to be fair, that bug affected maybe 25 people

[zealous moth]

bro my gpu is dying in real time

[crude wigeon]

wait fr

[bronze panther]

Only to those who got double same item?

[balmy condor]

guys read the wowhead post

what are we doing word of mouth explaining it

the post is right there

just read the news

like a normal human

[waxen oyster]

i cant read

[crude wigeon]

whispyr u have to read it out loud

for all of us

[zealous moth]

i stg

[polar jasper]

do we want any mastery when we have puzzlebox?
i consider swapping haste/mastery legs vs heavy crit legs. i'm at 474 mastery rn.

sims say 0.3% upgrade. is it a trap?

[sharp viper]

https://tenor.com/view/boondocks-read-rap-fans-exorcism-uncle-ruckus-gif-8662632631608934966

[azure carbon]

I just click the link so you get ad revenue and then expect you to explain to me, Whispyr.

It's win win really

[balmy condor]

I don't even get ad revenue I'm salaried

[haughty flicker]

no

[zealous moth]

this "we tested the feature and found it was related to a testing enivironment limitation" shit is just blizzard forgot to enable the dupe protection

[balmy condor]

it's not even my news post

[haughty flicker]

i would rather avoid the news

its scary

[balmy condor]

I have no incentive to make you click the link other than saving my own mental

[azure carbon]

Oh ok. I'll stop clicking em.

[bronze panther]

Based on what i understand is i get it back

If i understood well

[knotty vapor]

lmao those are NaN errors

whatever shader they're using on the ground is having a struggle

likely with the post processing

[zealous moth]

honestly i'd click any link whispyr throws my way

it's a scam? i'll gladly click it

bro deserves the world

[bronze panther]

So 3 more myth items?

[fresh kelp]

yeah but how does it work if i spent after the fix am i getting my tokens back?

[bronze panther]

Already got 3

[fresh kelp]

[bronze panther]

https://tenor.com/view/the-solution-is-simple-it's-a-no-brainer-im-jeong-dae-squid-game-season-3-player-100-song-young-chang-gif-10042109574270080784

[balmy condor]

[thorn thorn]

Whispyr scammed me tooo

Its called maplestory

And on june 14th its going to hijack my PC

It has a very ominous timer on how much time is left

[marble hemlock]

hope you find a cure soon

[spice lagoon]

anyone got the retail mage discord

[lime edge]

i used to play maplestory

[zealous moth]

i'll start the whispyr mental health aid fund

[azure carbon]

He made me trade my raid spot for a sweet sandwich recipe.

[spice lagoon]

ty whisper

[zealous moth]

imagine having to deal with the entire ass comunity for free

[thorn thorn]

The Feetspyr™ Incorporated brain chip prevents me from responding to this

[bronze panther]

Whats the plan for more rolla now

[waxen oyster]

....whatever you personally need

?

[balmy condor]

wdym whats the plan

[waxen oyster]

like always

[balmy condor]

it's the same plan lmao, you're just a week ahead

[waxen oyster]

might be net equal if you still roll in the same place

and get a dupe

but yeah

[bronze panther]

I used 1 roll in pit got dagger
2 in alguitar got hand and ring

If i go back to alguitar ill have 2/3 of getting same things if they give back all 3 rolls

[knotty vapor]

alguitar

[zealous moth]

alguitar

cracked me

ngl

[waxen oyster]

people who only wanted one trinket off a raid boss and got it

won the most tbh

[zealous moth]

one of my guildies started calling dungeons "doungons"

thanks for reminding me of him

[haughty flicker]

yeah those people are getting away with murder

[sharp viper]

Al guitar 🎸 academy

[zealous moth]

here we go again

[bronze panther]

https://tenor.com/view/mcmahon-crying-he-was-special-wwe-vince-mcmahon-gif-13313547165599993551

[knotty vapor]

welcome to the NaN zone

[sharp viper]

Easy math, it’s 50/50 either you get it or you don’t

[azure carbon]

Al-Guitar

[bronze panther]

Cant be 50/50 if there are multiple outcomes easy math

[thorn thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squidward-mystery-side-eye-looking-gif-26377428

[haughty flicker]

the outcomes are you either get it or you dont

50/50

[zealous moth]

so what im getting from this post is

[sharp viper]

There are two outcomes. Either you get the item or you don’t.

[haughty flicker]

100% chance of the eventual heat death of the universe though

[zealous moth]

i should go and spend this core anyway?

so i get 2 refunded?

[haughty flicker]

well the bugs already fixed

[zealous moth]

or am i missing anything

[haughty flicker]

so it doesnt matter to you now

[marble hemlock]

you say that by responding to me

[zealous moth]

yeah but i used 1 roll day 1

[haughty flicker]

that roll will be refunded

[zealous moth]

and i didnt get any charges

[bronze panther]

The outcome is i always get the item i go in knowing im rolling it at the end 🫡

[haughty flicker]

anything going forward will not

[azure carbon]

Lost the most by not using a roll because scared of bug. Rip.

[thorn thorn]

My opinion is not my own

[haughty flicker]

thats all that changes

[tribal pike]

guys, this stats is ok for ST ASSA?

995 critic
637 haste
782 mastery
167 versa

[zealous moth]

oh so its already fixed but they still haven't refunded the charges?

gotcha

[haughty flicker]

yes this will happen in the next few days

[bronze panther]

Cant farm so many myth crests though

[sharp viper]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-computing-counting-math-problems-gif-14678592

[zealous moth]

hmmm needs more vers

should be at least 600

id drop some crit, its a useless stat

[tribal pike]

most of the logs i was analyzing were all using high crit

[zealous moth]

yeah im memeing

but you shouldnt be analyzing logs

[tribal pike]

xD

[zealous moth]

should be simming instead

[frosty cedar]

hes messing with you

yeah, sim yourself

[balmy condor]

analyzing logs when gear is inherently RNG and the stat window on logs is notoriously bad

love that

[haughty flicker]

logs dont have windows

?

[waxen oyster]

basically yeah

i guess some of us its as if bug never existed

[primal parrot]

oh gods

i fear mine might be going the same way

that or its the patch

[half egret]

If I bonus roll the PoS wrists, I'd prob replace the crafted ones and craft some other dog dookie piece I got on right?

[balmy condor]

Probably not

But I guess you could

[half egret]

Would it just be a waste of crests

[azure carbon]

Seems kinda crest inefficient for now tbh. Def the play in a few week he tho

[balmy condor]

It would be crest neutral unless you take the wrists to 289

Taking the wrists to 289 is obviously a waste

[azure carbon]

Oh that's true, crafting gets you to 285 yeah?

[balmy condor]

But like you can craft a piece, which would be 285, and then free crest when you get a real item

[azure carbon]

I forgot about that. Good call.

[half egret]

Makes sense, ty ty

[balmy condor]

Crafting more than 2 items is basically just bad luck protection if you don’t have myth items to put crests into

[primal parrot]

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/black-flickering-pixels-after-1205-patch/2295002/9

might just be the patch...

according to the thread Compute Effects setting causes it so disabling that should prove to be a fix

[spring creek]

when do we start doing damage btw? it feels like im hitting people with a butter knife

[balmy condor]

What

[thorn thorn]

[primal parrot]

you know we cant be of help if all you provide in the way of info is that your character is using a butter knife

[balmy condor]

#transmog

[thorn thorn]

When does a butter knife become a serious knife

[frosty cedar]

a butter knife IS serious bro

[coral ibex]

thats a deadly weapon in britain

[balmy condor]

When you have opps in the Italian butter mafia

[frosty cedar]

out here in the ends. ur nan gets shanked at the back of aldi with that shit

innit

[spring creek]

the ilv300 butterknife will carry me

[primal parrot]

sorry i can only think of backshots rn

backshots with a butter knife

[spring creek]

ayo??

[stuck lodge]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1488547832062415010/drop_fixed.png

[warped moon]

what spec best for abyss angler please

[thorn thorn]

My grandpa once took me to an italian resteraunt and they offered us tiramisu but i declined cuz im not really a fan and the waiter said they were gonna jump me if i came back into their restaurant

[primal parrot]

norwegian salmon farmer

[warped moon]

i am loving abyssination anglers

[frosty cedar]

that's the kinda activities that get you banned from morrisons

[primal parrot]

ritual sites was really fun
abyss anglers just... got REALLY boring

[warped moon]

https://youtu.be/gVOzQfe_GQE?si=z_CFwhd4O5QIe31t i put this on and i am v happy rn the super mario one is good too 🙂 dire dire

[balmy condor]

Did you go back

[thorn thorn]

No cuz the family moved back to italy

Probably cuz of me

[balmy condor]

Yeah I’d do that too

[thorn thorn]

Look Tiramisu is just not that great

[warped moon]

spaget

woah

[haughty flicker]

go fuck yourself

[thorn thorn]

It tastes like im eating sour dirt

[warped moon]

wth

[thorn thorn]

Bruh

Lets be reasonable

Why do you like a cake that tastes like sour dirt

[haughty flicker]

i wouldnt like a cake that tastes like sour dirt

so its a good thing ive never had that

[thorn thorn]

Then why do you like Tiramisu

thats literally what it is

[haughty flicker]

you need new tastebuds

[thorn thorn]

My grandpa almost disowned me cuz im also not a fan of cannoli

[haughty flicker]

or better tiramasu ig

ok

i need to walk away

before i get banned

[warped moon]

do u like rum cake

[thorn thorn]

I have had rum cake

It was an experience

[vast shuttle]

how do u use puzzle box whats the best timing?

[azure carbon]

In what world is tiramisu like sour dirt?

[thorn thorn]

Rum cake just tasted like I took a swig of alcohol with every bite

[spice spire]

Before death mark

[thorn thorn]

The one we live in

[azure carbon]

You're allowed to have opinions and stuff, but yours is wrong. 👀

[thorn thorn]

I speak only objective truths

Like in about 2 minutes im gonna get a knock on my door and its gonna be Bel

And he is gonna unalive me

[spice spire]

https://tenor.com/view/baking-anime-baki-anime-fight-apple-fritter-gif-19725297

[thorn thorn]

do you like apple fritters

[spice spire]

Sure

[thorn thorn]

thats not an answer

[azure carbon]

I just.

Sour dirt? 😂 I don't understand.

[warped moon]

maybe a low quality espresso ground

[azure carbon]

Maybe moldy?

[autumn idol]

assa feels really nice on lura

[balmy condor]

Is the Lura bug fixed

[autumn idol]

i dont think it is

[balmy condor]

Based

[autumn idol]

i think its the intermission

[balmy condor]

Unkillable boss goes hard

[autumn idol]

we got to intermish like 3-4 times tonight

[balmy condor]

Nah, the last phase

[autumn idol]

oh, there's another bug?

what's the bug

[balmy condor]

The light zones are supposed to save you from the global raid dot

[thorn thorn]

Its sour dirt

Whats confusing

[balmy condor]

Cause out of the light area it’s like an 80k dot

But that just… doesn’t work

[autumn idol]

so what ur just taking

500% of ur hp as damage

[autumn idol]

as soon as you enter p4?

[balmy condor]

It’s like 35% of your hp as a raidwide aoe every 2 seconds yeah

[autumn idol]

1 feint and 1 tranq

i'll be fine

[spice surge]

It is fixed

[balmy condor]

Thank fuck

Heroic was really fucking hard we had to push out of intermission at <10% to have a chance

[autumn idol]

i haven't evven killed the nm/hc version of the boss yet

[azure carbon]

What's confusing is that tiramisu isn't remotely sour lol. It's a mix of bitters and sweet.

Also like. Usually it's fairly creamy.

[thorn thorn]

bitter is close enough

[azure carbon]

Somewhere Gordon Ramsay feels the urge to yell and doesn't know why.

[thorn thorn]

probably because he is gordon ramsay

[azure carbon]

How you expect anyone to afford therapy in 2026? Give the man some grace.

[thorn thorn]

wtf is therapy

[azure carbon]

The place people need to go to get over others calling tiramisu sour dirt. 😂

Sorry I'm being an ass.

I'm curious - how do you describe other flavors?

[thorn thorn]

define other flavors

In the case of Cannoli

I would describe it as whipped cream in a tube

[haughty flicker]

well

yeah thats fair

[azure carbon]

I mean that's accurate I guess. Why don't you like it? Lol

[thorn thorn]

Cuz it tastes like whipped cream in a tube

[haughty flicker]

its a bit of a different consistancy than whipped cream but

i can accept that one at least

[azure carbon]

It atleast doesn't confound the mind trying to make sense of, lol.

[brave stump]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/m5zTP2Moeyk how would you describe that

[thorn thorn]

Idk Tiramisu is some kinda coffee cake

And coffee tastes like sour dirt

Ruins everything people put it in

[haughty flicker]

the cat seems to like it

[thorn thorn]

This is why I drink cuban coffee

Its a shotglass

The days worth of coffee in one take

[brave stump]

the litter killed me

[thorn thorn]

Crucial note

My filthy american pallete is suited for other countries foods, not their desserts

I find most other cultures desserts to be morally questionable at best

[balmy condor]

Rox thinks German chocolate cake is bad

:(

[thorn thorn]

Havent had

[balmy condor]

That’s not… okay

You know what

Good on you buddy

[thorn thorn]

explain

[balmy condor]

It’s not German

It’s American

[thorn thorn]

oh

I do like chocolate cakes but its unlucky because I do have a chocolate allergy

Rolled all the unlucky things

Allergic to chocolate

Allergic to shrimp and lobster

How live

[balmy condor]

The only thing Americans love more than other cultures

Is naming their own shit after other cultures

[brave stump]

Yeehaw

[primal parrot]

[haughty flicker]

why do you still have loomithar silk

[primal parrot]

dawg i aint going back to karesh

[haughty flicker]

[balmy condor]

what were you trying to roll on

[primal parrot]

ring or cudgel for outLUL

[balmy condor]

I see

[primal parrot]

i dont raid so

[autumn idol]

im gonna raid

so much

[balmy condor]

yeah I was just wondering why you were rolling for nexus point

[autumn idol]

im getting a freebie token

which i will spend onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

imperator azortharion

probably

i ended up somehow having all items that he has on hero track (not the guidon of course)

[primal parrot]

ewww

[viscid spear]

[autumn idol]

[viscid spear]

Sucks, had a single death

Stupid jellyfish

Also only had 7 affixes, need to get the 8th

[primal parrot]

WHY THE FUCK DO I KEEP GETTING DECLINED
ok nvm i got invited we good

[haughty flicker]

real

sometimes you just gotta complain

[primal parrot]

timed everything but mfs still wont invite

crazy work

[viscid spear]

[rose canopy]

with improved garrote do you garrote twice in a row ?

[primal parrot]

just as the Imp. Garrote buff is ending to max out the duration of the debuff

[rose canopy]

tyy

do we fan of knives at 5 comobo again before evenom ?

[hollow river]

Nop

[gray raven]

I spent 3 rolls in pit (legs, bracer, neck) and got no dagger and I already had the belt from an early vault. So if I get all three again with this fix it might be more advantageous to roll in skyreach for dagger since the cloak and catalyst items would be better?

[glass viper]

Couldn't roll on the belt from Myth Chimaerus as it said I already had one higher? Yet mine is hc version...Any ideas?

[west gyro]

known bug, had same last reset, have 276 socket one and couldnt roll on mythic one at all, game thinks its the same item or some shit @glass viper

[gray raven]

I think that’s a long standing bug

[glass viper]

Awesome, another bug from small-company BLizz

[idle loom]

!poisons

[prisma monolith]

You should always be using poisons you talent into, which means the following:

Lethals:

• Deadly always + Amplifying if you're talented into it with DTB, Instant only as a final option
  Non-Lethals:
• Atrophic/Numbing, crippling if you're talented into DTB

Wound poison damage in PvE is atrocious and should never be used

[fringe socket]

🎲 lucky lucky

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