assassination

[latent kernel]

does the bug still exist with sending dinars on dungeons?

[upper spear]

siicne they shot my MM hunter in the head and burried him behind the barn, and my DK is omega bugged rn, time to gear Assa.

I feel like pooling is miserable this tier. Does it get better with gear? im stacking to 80% but feels like even after the buff runs out im only at like 50% energy.

[latent kernel]

saw there was something where you could get duplicates

[iron thorn]

Wowhead post says uh bug is fixed

[upper spear]

its not fully

[iron thorn]

[upper spear]

its fixed for some people, and theres still al ot of big bugs

[latent kernel]

wdym fixed for some people

how does that even work lol

[upper spear]

ya idk some people just arent getting the Commander issue

other are, its in the logs

cant explain

[iron thorn]

So assa, as far as I understood it so far, is not supposed to be swimming in energy at all times

[upper spear]

which i get in ST

but in AOE, we lost the Repture snipe for energy, and the AOE bleeds dont seem to generate as much

in TWW you couldnt go OOM in AOE

wasnt possible

now that doesnt seem to be the case

maybe my gear is just shit, im only 240 on him rn

im sure theres a 2 hour whispyr video i just havent commited to yet tht will tel lme

[jaunty sky]

Is it the 'use dark transformation before army' people where its fixed

[upper spear]

that was a bandaid, it syncs your commander buff up SLIGHTLY better

the buff was coming out delayed, and thus you lose a lot of army dam

but thats a shit fix

[jaunty sky]

Yeah its not good

They gotta do better

But at least we're dropping fat clouds now

[upper spear]

Rogue is? Cause DK Abom cloud is also bugged so we just dont use Abom anymore 🙂

[jaunty sky]

Yeah outlaw and sub got a new good talent

That also costs 30 energy for no reason

But it drops a sick cloud

That def doesnt hide ground effects

[weary stump]

he mentions the accursed cloud in these sacred halls, the land of no cloud skill

[jaunty sky]

They should remove DS and give all 3 specs trickster

[weary stump]

they should remove DS and give assassination and subtlety one of the demon hunter hero talents it would make about as much usefulness for us

[split dust]

one more bleed will fix assass for good

[upper spear]

but we lost a bleed, so we need 2 more.

[split dust]

let me have every poison on at the same time

[upper spear]

and they never fall off from timers

[balmy condor]

By design

[pliant maple]

@balmy condor is sin still clapping sub for high keys this patch?

[balmy condor]

Yes

[pliant maple]

so what you're saying is, i should gear for sin and delete my sub gear

[zinc frost]

Yep cant play sin with sub gear sorry

[balmy condor]

But that’s the same gear?

[pliant maple]

Sorry that was poorly worded. I would never delete that shit. Just refocusing on more sin-optimized gear instead.

[fringe bear]

Now i think you should delete all your gear and start from scratch

[latent kernel]

can you still get dupes didnt see any answer to that?

[inland abyss]

and plume didnt drop

nice

[balmy condor]

Yes it’s not fixed yet

[latent kernel]

Also wtf is this dude talking about lmao

[balmy condor]

Nothing of value

It’s a funny fucking post though

Half actual bugs

Half random word salad

[latent kernel]

Stat priorities shifted so severely

What is bro on about

[primal parrot]

ai slop

[balmy condor]

Some rogues are convinced that sub is crit now

(It’s always been crit)

[primal parrot]

toddler learns how to read letters

[balmy condor]

Toddler also cares way too much about stuff that will not affect him

I’m playing sub with like a billion crit

Before and after the patch

My sims aren’t really suggesting anything they weren’t already suggesting before

[primal parrot]

i also subscribe to the machine doing all the thinking for me

[balmy condor]

Its just paranoia that their gear might not be PERFECT

[drifting cloud]

you swap flask on st whispyr its huge

[balmy condor]

Yeah true flask swap was 0.4

[shy stream]

!tott

[prisma monolith]

Auto Tricks on tank Addon - TankMD

[gilded oasis]

disgusting

[balmy condor]

Says the wo- sorry, the wo- euhgh, the wo-m-an

[outer moon]

If we're being real, following a sim to the letter is only gonna matter for what, .05% of the player base? I check logs and work to improve my gameplay but at a certain point you can't spreadsheet your way to good gameplay.

[balmy condor]

Yeah I mean sims and gameplay are two separate things

[gilded oasis]

yeah, Im great at simming. Not so much at playing the game smh

[balmy condor]

Shut up zar

[gilded oasis]

can't

[balmy condor]

Oh okay

[spice spire]

Tell that fraud

[spice spire]

I don’t believe you

[balmy condor]

Unlike quake, I believe women

[gilded oasis]

you shouldn't

[spice spire]

??????????

[gilded oasis]

they lie

and cheat

and smell bad

or something

[snow kindle]

I feel. Sin still has more potential than sub on lura outside of P1

[spice spire]

And eat hot chip

[dawn seal]

No way

[rich remnant]

just seen in a pits +11 just before last boss

[balmy condor]

You’ve seen pits?

Where

[rich remnant]

god i wish

i did just get the dagger from rolls 1st try so

thats nice

[balmy condor]

Grats

That’s big

[barren yarrow]

anyone able to talk about simming?

[gilded oasis]

only stimming

[plain solstice]

I should of read about the dupe item bug on bonus rolls. is there any chance of getting the voidcore returned 🙁 2 myth necks back to back same dungeon

[barren yarrow]

im like getting really conflicting results and have no idea if im doing it correctly

[glass fulcrum]

https://open.spotify.com/track/0LEJdJd3KLNIHtgNmMwdvB?si=b36a243587234ec8

[celest ruin]

stealth sound bug fixed poggers

[jovial solar]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[tawdry halo]

man looks like he's at least 40 years old wdym

[sour crane]

hmmmm, log in, instantly get strafe bug, log out.
Just gonna sit this patch out sadly

[pearl mauve]

is there any addon trick or whatever to make cooldown manager show the Apex stacking up if we start stacking it while we have the energy regen buff ?

[barren yarrow]

anyone have some time to go over some sims with me?

pref someone who knows sub and sin

[balmy condor]

!implac

[prisma monolith]

Implacable is bugged in Blizzard's Cooldown Manager, there is no way to "fix" it without an addon. It can mostly be ignored without losing more than ~0.8%

If you'd like an addon to track implacable, search for Nooka Implacable or use the Curseforge Link

[amber brook]

Typo here i think

[pearl mauve]

thx

[balmy condor]

Weird

I’ll fix it when I get home

[radiant aspen]

https://giphy.com/gifs/mbG6891BV7QMo

are we still best spec ?

[oak tangle]

yoooo rank 1 normal chimaerus 257-259 ilvl

[radiant aspen]

hc 280

[barren yarrow]

🙁

[balmy condor]

I’m drunk and not home let’s do this shit

[barren yarrow]

lmfao! what a combo

i got someone helping me out King, ty though

[fringe socket]

https://tenor.com/view/é-complicado-mano-gif-9589218753428981877

[zinc frost]

Gosh I love this meme.

[rotund oak]

speaks volumes about the game

also gz on the dagger

[balmy condor]

https://tenor.com/view/league-of-legends-dumbo-drinking-water-t1-drinking-dumbo-drinking-water-gif-5833717593105737590

[radiant aspen]

https://giphy.com/gifs/RespectiveCollective-shave-30s-bald-guy-DWP2Bppesgn3Fu0fu2

dont tell me

we are cooked

Q.Q

[glad ferry]

why are they bald now

[barren yarrow]

OHHHHH, no no dont cry! lol

[barren yarrow]

https://tenor.com/view/it's-going-to-be-fine-the-great-canadian-pottery-throw-down-it's-going-to-be-okay-michael-wood-103-gif-6714435300716409134

[radiant aspen]

ngl lookin at sub and outlaw thread

its soo good i play assa

https://giphy.com/gifs/vinland-saga-wectie-wectiee-qTELhZuDdRSLIVkhQt

[snow kindle]

Sin generally does the more boss damage than the other 2 specs, could it potentially be better for Lura as well.

Why would you play sub besides for the cleave

[fringe socket]

I think its pretty good

[autumn idol]

im considerign going assa for lura prog

simply because you have cds kinda for adds in p1 (the hardest phase of the fight)

[radiant aspen]

solid

[snow kindle]

i dont really understand why sub is the go to spec as of now

[radiant aspen]

i pull 175-180s in 18s

[autumn idol]

the 6 7 buff

[radiant aspen]

i was jokeing

but im intersted if sub or outlaw does better with that new thing

i dont think they will outdps us in highkeys

[autumn idol]

def not but

i still hate that i auto pop 2 thistle teas in aoe

[radiant aspen]

for what

[autumn idol]

i want my infinite energy back blizz

[snow kindle]

lura

[autumn idol]

lura prog i think is what they were talking about

yeah

[radiant aspen]

oh i killed it with assa pre nerf if we talk abot hc

was fine

[autumn idol]

mo

no

mythic

[radiant aspen]

i go caustic no ct

and u fine

on mythic im not sure why sub would be go to

maybe instant aoe burst for cystals

?

[autumn idol]

doesnt line up

not worth holding either

adds spawn every 1 min

ass has dm -> bane -> dm for each set

the only problem is that the 2nd set is usually the hardest one cuz no one has cds

im not sure if KB is stronger than sending dance

Lura is a sick boss though

really loving it

[radiant aspen]

idk this version of sub is not it for me

[autumn idol]

i dont like assa either dw

they murdered my boy

sub lost all of its complexity

and niche

well its kinda back now? with cloud covee

[radiant aspen]

eh idk afther 5 years its time im rerroling next season

[autumn idol]

but the spec is so fucking bugged

[radiant aspen]

icba getting stuck on 3.7k every season

coz im yellow class

[autumn idol]

premade gaming

[radiant aspen]

and befor u say no i dont have friends who play this game and i dont want team

[autumn idol]

i just think pugging in general is possibly the worst experience you can have in this game

[radiant aspen]

yep

they should make m+ solo que

[lucid walrus]

Hi folks, new to assa rogue and like the vibe but struggling w the gameplay. 2 questions: (1) in aoe, if we are ct’ing to spread bleeds and hit max combo points but there are still a few mobs missing bleeds, do we just keep spamming ct until all mobs are bled or do we envenom when hitting max cps and THEN resume ct’ing? (2) I understand dropping the 80 stack apex to get enhanced energy regen, but even after the buff ends im usually only at like ~50% energy. Do I just do nothing until I near the energy cap to start a fresh envenom chain?

Sorry for the novel

[north patrol]

you should be getting envenom between CTs

[radiant aspen]

1 , u should ct untile all mobs have bleeds and use envenom bettwen cts when ur at 5 or more cp so u dont waste combo points 2 playing around ur apex talant is like 0.8% damage increase (not 100% sure but heard it here ) so u can just ignore it unless u want to super minmax

[lucid walrus]

1. Thanks 2. Maybe I’m not clear. Like when I run out of energy I legit do not know what to do. Do I just let the implacable stacks drop for enhanced regen and then stop pressing buttons for 5-6 seconds until I’m back to near energy cap? Or do I keep pressing mutilate / fok + envenom even at low energy?

[radiant aspen]

1. np 😄 2. im not expert i if we talk about m+ i play on fairly high end 3.7/3.8k and i personaly just keep pressing stuff like mitlate or fok and envenom only time i mind to play around apex talant is on single target where i try to make it so i have 80 let it drop and go into deathmark window with enchanted regen .

• i feel like once u finish ct when u do fok and enve u dont really run out of energy at all

[quick kestrel]

Sorry if this is a silly question, but are we able to just target the same mob with the bleed when using CT? I don’t know if my UI is bugged since the patch, but it looks like I only spread it to three mobs at a time unless I tab to a different mob.

Like no matter how many times I cast CT it’s only on the same 3

[radiant aspen]

not quite sure what u mean ct applys same bleeds as ur target have to 2 nearby enemys if u press it again and theres more it will apply to other 2 and so on

if they are in range of ct

[quick kestrel]

I guess my UI is just bugged because it looks like my bleeds only spread to the same 3 targets 😭

But thank u for clarifying

[radiant aspen]

moust likely coz i dont think theres any talant that makes ct act that way (might be mistaken)

[quick kestrel]

And in general, is assa a good spec to learn rogue on? I’m new to dps (usually a healer) and needed smth simple lmao. My friends keep telling me to go outlaw but I’m scared it’ll be too complicated

[radiant aspen]

so i think its probobly ui issue

[quick kestrel]

The new patch yesterday made my elvui completely go crazy so I’ll have to just reinstall I think

[radiant aspen]

play whatever u like/enjoy

assa is easy to pick up but hard to master in my opinion

[quick kestrel]

I feel like I enjoy things that don’t make my brain hurt to optimize haha

[radiant aspen]

so theres always room to improve

[quick kestrel]

Okay interesting! I do like that

My mains a mistweaver so I think that’s pretty similar

Like easy to pick up hard to master

[radiant aspen]

outlaw is not hard eather its more of apm thingy

[quick kestrel]

bahaha omg mw is pretty high apm and I kinda got tired of that

Give my wrists a break from spinning 😭

my main thing is I struggle with watching my feet sometimes, so if I have to reposition and lose tons of dps then I don’t think I’d be able to enjoy it

[radiant aspen]

yeah assa is fine with doing dps while moveing just like any rogue specs i think 😄

[lucid walrus]

So when ur low energy you just keep pressing buttons, going back to low energy etc. (except for the caveat you outlined?)

[radiant aspen]

yep thats what i personally do it works fine for me 😄

i like log 95 average on raids and m+ fairly ofthen so doubt is absolute bad way to play it but as i said not sure if its best way

[lucid walrus]

Ok cool. Thanks. My boss dmg in m+ is usually pretty poor (only 263 Ilvl tho) so I didn’t know if pooling was better for bosses or something

[radiant aspen]

i think stats could play into that as well if ur low gear atm

[trail spade]

is there anything that can help me from like just staring at the enemies bleeds the whole fight? i end up zoning out so hard i die from mechs. Is there any addons or is it a skill issue lol

[late badge]

on 5t- is it worth it to send 2nd CT @ 5cp, or envenom first, and then CT after to spread?

[trail spade]

Im staring at my combo points too

[golden loom]

spend

at 5+ you just always spend

[sharp viper]

whoever designed this ritual site event for dps players needs to get shot

or at least removed from the design of anything

I'm constantly getting destroyed

meanwhile tanks just pull everything

and dont drop below 90%

[buoyant herald]

about half an hour ago someone was saying how great rogue is for them lol

but also tanks have done that for literal years now, pretty normal

same with any solo content

[sharp viper]

probably didnt do them with any challenges active

i just get deleted if i pick more than one pack

[brave gyro]

I've not had time to even check out the new stuff besides prop hunt (it's rly bad design and buggy).

So the rest is too?

[sharp viper]

abyss anglers was very fun

ritual site is just a delve without valeera and you can choose modifiers

pretty boring tbh and feels unfairly tuned

[proper rain]

Is blizzard aware of the CT not spreading all bleeds sometimes bug?

[balmy condor]

Yes but it’s like

The least impactful bug of all time

So I doubt we see fixes to that soon

[proper rain]

Least than stealth sound sometimes not working that was fixed? 😅

[balmy condor]

Yeh

[proper rain]

Ok :<

[vital flicker]

it will last until the next rogue rework

[balmy condor]

Yeh

And honestly

Kinda whatever

Like there’s bugs that matter and bugs that are whatever

This is in the whatever category

Mildly annoying when you notice, little to no impact on your dps

[vital flicker]

next rework is going to make FoK a dot that cost combo points that does reduced damage after 8 targets

[jade grotto]

Is sin now the worst rogue for keys or we still competitive?

[balmy condor]

probably still the best

maybe outlaw in some dungeons

[vital flicker]

it's the second day of the patch it is a little hard to tell

first day for the EU players

[jade grotto]

Excellent. Thanks.

Yeah hard to tell but I was considering the swap to outlaw if it was a significant gain.

[tame charm]

second morning

we had a whole day of reading pins already :DDD

[burnt ember]

I find outlaw frustrating to play but it sims at 10k more than 'Sin rn. How likely is it to actually squeeze out those numbers for most outlaw players?

[tame charm]

if 100% uptime it's not impossible

[vital flicker]

sims are also not taking into account all of the damage amps that something like sin or sub do much better with

[balmy condor]

sims don't compare specs

outlaw simming 10k more is basically irrelevant

[burnt ember]

That makes sense

Yeah honestly I was a bit conflicted on what to run after these buffs but honestly my guild is a little bit lacking in the tank department and so there are just moments of downtown due to boss standing in bad... So it feels like just for my group 'Sin is the play because it hurts less to have little moments of downtime due to positioning. Idk if that's the case but that's how it feels

[spare kayak]

I happily parsed grey as outlaw in raid yesterday, but ive got 18 mastery 30 crit and 19 haste. Haven't recrafted anything cause scared of losing myth crest due to bug, but not leaving assa.

But its weird cause i drop a lot of dps when going adds, where i thought i wouldn't, but I'll figure it out

[umbral haven]

chain pull with assa rogue bad? Or doesnt matter in current day?

[balmy condor]

You want chain pulls

[jade grotto]

Sin prio damage seems really good but it sucks that death stalker is just so yuck to play. And prio damage doesnt show up on meters so I end up getting laughed at by serial padders like ret and fury.

[balmy condor]

Why would you play deathstalker

[jade grotto]

I don't. I just wish it was good

[balmy condor]

Oh

Yeah I’m glad it ain’t

The prio is entirely overkill and the gameplay is so ass

[jade grotto]

I like the idea of a prio damage hero talent. Its just so awful in practice.

[balmy condor]

Yeh I mean fatebound assa is already one of the highest prio damage in the game, deathstalker is just an unnecessary amount

Better that way imo

[jade grotto]

Yeah that makes sense. I just don't like the theme or visuals. The gameplay changes in fate bound are non existent but I don't mind that.

[balmy condor]

Yeah it’s the lesser evil

[jolly heath]

What is the highest prio, funnel spec now in game

[silk barn]

if i had to bet it honestly feels like sin is

[spare kayak]

Aldrachi reaver havoc perhaps?

[silk barn]

that would have to do damage

[jolly heath]

Last time I got flamed by Varas, he claimed that ret pally did billion more funnel than assa tho

[silk barn]

oh wait i lied

its probably arms

arms funnel is astronomical rn actually

[runic hinge]

Not many specs have single target cds and gain resources from hitting other targets

[honest comet]

Ret funnel with executioners scentence is quite high

[runic hinge]

But yeha ret and arms probably up there

[near valley]

ret can bring down the hammer of dawn with how execution sentence is now

[honest comet]

Only played with one arms warrior this season. They feel more rare than rogues 😅

[golden loom]

well havoc doesnt play aldrachi anymore so

[jolly heath]

How would you compare, like in 1st pull AA, ret doesnt even do that much dmg to vile lashers

[spare kayak]

Ive never been in a m+ group with a ret and seen prio target dip before rest. Its always prio target left with no adds

Which is why i dont invite rets to my groups. They ruin my mood

[runic hinge]

I don’t know

[jolly heath]

While they just kill all the hungry lashers

[honest comet]

To be fair if they follow wowhead blindly they don't take exeq and go for the wings every 30 sec talent instead

[spare kayak]

Yes, they do that. Nonstop dmg no prio

Makes my blood boil a bit

[honest comet]

😅

I like the 1 min wings+ exec in higher keys. 30 sec wings in +10s is fine

[spare kayak]

You must the be only one, cause in 16s they do that shit

Its just ew

[merry monolith]

Is it worth crafting another dagger? Didnt get a m track, currently OH is hero

[sonic zinc]

udk has some funnel now with dnd putrefy spam in dt

[balmy condor]

no

[blissful elbow]

It is not worth it to spend myth crests on oh

[merry monolith]

Oh right didnt even think about the crests

Sorry, it’s early

[blissful elbow]

Lol it's fine

[runic hinge]

It is early. That’s why I haven’t finished the wordle and not because I’m stupid

[radiant aspen]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/qrREF3TUTTVUMZcVnrqNC6 @balmy condor boss

if our off piece is legs

why head gives me more

gain ?

can i just go with leggs ?

or am i tweaking ?

[balmy condor]

cause off piece is fake shit

what even is an off piece

[radiant aspen]

okay so ill go with Head ty ❤️

[silk barn]

bis lists are fake outside of trinkets and cantrip items for the most part

[balmy condor]

ye

[silk barn]

its all about reaching a specific mix of stats which can be done with a ton of different permutations of gear

[radiant aspen]

Head i mean

[balmy condor]

okay well

that's not really true

[radiant aspen]

if offpiece is fake head is moust gain

so i go with head

[balmy condor]

but you got the right spirit

[runic hinge]

Yeah I’ll take some head

[radiant aspen]

https://giphy.com/gifs/surprise-curiosity-thenseven-ffOGmU3KipKPWY9MLW

[radiant aspen]

wait so legs is correct answer ?

[balmy condor]

nah that wasn't for oyu

that was for the specific mix of stats thing

[radiant aspen]

ok wowhead ssays legs my log says head

ahh ok

mb

ty as always ❤️

[balmy condor]

np

[silk barn]

trust the clanker sims

[radiant aspen]

https://giphy.com/gifs/star-wars-memes-clankers-xeBE8Qm7tXnmSBB89W

[strange onyx]

Hello

[radiant aspen]

what do i drop in current m+ build for sudden demise

im about to do some +10 bossting

https://giphy.com/gifs/lay-down-froggo-donn-frog-SUeqGu3XrsPLDN3n4P

[dire flume]

theres a talent build on wowhead for weeklies

[still nymph]

It feels like the improved gar is really strong. Do we want to chain pull with every vanish or is my feeling just off and it really doesn't matter and improved gar is just the cherry on top?

[balmy condor]

imp gar in dungeons if you get every restealth and vanish is like 4-5%

it's good

but like

kinda also who cares?

you'd rather reduce downtime whenever possible

[still nymph]

is that so? couldve sworn ive seen massive differences (by looking at details, which i know is flawed) between different seat runs with and without good restealths. but then i can reduce the hate i get from my tanks i guess xD

thank you

[balmy condor]

np

[jolly stirrup]

I did a 10 NPX yesterday, first pull sudden demise was 20% of my damage

[wintry vapor]

It's probably me being terrible at the game, but even when I do a +14 or 15 I just perform better in general with the Sudden Demise build, even on single target. I can't really explain why

Maybe I should look into that

Send my logs somewhere or somesuch

[rugged basalt]

gm

[humble verge]

+10 boosting dont seem worth it anymore

[radiant aspen]

yep i just got out gold went to check prices

was like nope

now i need to find way to make gold

😄

i can still raid boost but im saved for this week alr

[dire flume]

boosting +16s is only like 75k per key

its crazy

[radiant aspen]

well guess ill sell my resi key ?

[golden loom]

@humble verge boe pants are getting dangerously close to being bought!

[radiant aspen]

is it worth to farm boes

?

[golden loom]

I mean a run takes like 3 min so might aswell do it once per week

[radiant aspen]

like whats good no brain proffesion to make gold

any ideas ?

[narrow mauve]

Alchemy and go ham into multicrafting?

[radiant aspen]

do i need starting capital

and explain for someone who never done proffesions

xD

[lime lantern]

Hey, kind of new here. Been following discussion and saw sudden demise mentioned few times. What is the current situation of it in 18+ keys?

[humble verge]

bro i bought for 2m yesterday

[balmy condor]

Unplayable

[radiant aspen]

not good

[humble verge]

i can now run vorasius ring

[radiant aspen]

above 12 dont play

[wooden timber]

!implacable

[prisma monolith]

Implacable is bugged in Blizzard's Cooldown Manager, there is no way to "fix" it without an addon. It can mostly be ignored without losing more than ~0.8%

If you'd like an addon to track implacable, search for Nooka Implacable or use the Curseforge Link

[golden loom]

2m wtf

I am getting close cause they are like 900k

[narrow mauve]

Depends honestly. If you are also willing to gather the herbs for your alchemy then not that much. But if you want to buy the mats from the AH....

[sick marsh]

Is assa better than sub in a phys comp in m+ or it doesnt matter which spec ?

[lime lantern]

@balmy condor @radiant aspen ty, not the answer i was hoping for 😄

[radiant aspen]

i love that talant too

but sadly its unplayable

[jolly stirrup]

2 questions:

Is the Myth Chest Token in the Bonus loot table?
And if it is, can I still roll it, even if I already have a Myth Tier set Chest?

[golden loom]

It is, and you can still roll it unless you have already rolled it

[jolly stirrup]

[narrow mauve]

FIrst one is yes = Guildy got the chest token on Chrim while obviosly was rolling for the you know what trinket.
2nd one...not sure.

[buoyant herald]

yes, items are only removed from the loot table once you've obtained them "in this way" i.e. from the bonus roll

[humble verge]

i bought high haste low mastery specifically

thats why

i mean sure i couldve just bought cheapest legs but eh

[jolly stirrup]

Aight, so I basically have a 50% chance of getting something I really care about, 25% on the Trinket, 25% on the Belt, since I dont have Myth Belt yet and the other Trinket is kinda eh, but I would take it I guess since its Myth Track and it has Main stat I guess

[balmy condor]

Bonus rolling raid

[golden loom]

[autumn sierra]

Is it possible to say where we are now compared to sub/outlaw? are we whiping floors now? 🙁

[jolly stirrup]

Why would we?

[strange onyx]

Took the mast heavy / vers boe pant from raid week 1

Now I must suffer for the rest of the tier

[autumn sierra]

Because of the buffs Sub/Outlaw got… kinda in an identity(spec)crisis atm… ahhhh… want to decide for something to main throughout.. having equally fun on sub/assa, a bit less on outlaw, but just a tiny tad

[rugged basalt]

Aren't outlaws crashing out rn

[jolly stirrup]

Whats your goal in WoW

[spice surge]

https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-among-us-astronaut-space-betrayal-gif-23836476

[jolly stirrup]

Do you play to have fun? Or do you want to compete at the highest level

Me personally, I play for fun, Assa brings me fun, if my Performance is enough to not be benched, nice, if its not, so be it

[autumn sierra]

Progging Mythic and dipping my toes in high M+ keys.

To me fun is competing on the highest level I can afford with playtime of 2-3hours a day🤣

[subtle tundra]

your goal should be being the goat

[upper spear]

Hello, enjoy your lord and savior swol mommy

[jolly stirrup]

What a terrible day to have eyes

[strange onyx]

I wonder if people actually make this AI slop and either say «Neat» or «Hahaha, this is hilarious»

[dire flume]

nice canned responses

[upper spear]

People who love AI also find jingle keys fascinating

[strange onyx]

Whatever floats your boat

[upper spear]

Sometimes you gotta sink a boat for the greater good

[clear ingot]

is taking crippling poison off in m+ trolling? I lowkey HATE when i start on a pull and the mob i've double garroted is perm slowed not catching up

[broken solstice]

Just ask your tank what they prefer or remove/apply it for certain packs, like smudges in NPX

There is no hard and fast rule that you MUST play crippling poison if the group feels like it's a detriment not a benefit

[still nymph]

i basically never use it if the encounter doesnt specifically require a slow, like seat first boss or something like that. Otherwise, like you said, it just slows down collecting the pull. I specifically made a cancel aura macro to quickly remove it after the encounter. Applying it doesnt take long anyway

[clear ingot]

cool appreciate it

i just auto applied it when i logged in to rogue and just never questioned it

but yep it tilts me

[mortal tusk]

Hello, i'm gearing up my rogue, should I go for the mm+ recomanded build

or the one with suden demise ?

[broken solstice]

as far as I know the sudden demise build is only really played in lower keys, so I would assume it depends on what type of content you will be doing

If you are mostly going to be doing 10's for gear I'd play sudden demise

[still nymph]

the sudden demise build if you want to be happy when you look at the dmg meter, otherwise the recommended build.

sudden demise does no extra dmg, it just looks good

[keen raven]

always feels good to beat a lock

[jolly stirrup]

Damn what key?

[keen raven]

pit too

which is a locks bis dream

[jolly stirrup]

What Level

[keen raven]

19

[jolly stirrup]

[keen raven]

is a MT too

MT is asa's wet dream ngl

asa still feels really good in high keys, Ive been trying outlaw but ngl i havent touched it in 5 years and im struggling at it/ass at it atm

[celest crescent]

How do you guys manage with all these jumping frames in big pulls. Do I really need to buy fucking aimlab to train the cursor or is there any way to make them more or less stable?

[rugged basalt]

are you using default nameplates

[celest crescent]

Plater

[keen raven]

I use default

[rugged basalt]

i dont rly have that issue but i also dont use plater

[little tulip]

you can change how plater stacks stuff

stack height

some people like the names in the health bars

[mortal tusk]

k thx 😉 gonna stick to normal build

[celest crescent]

I think I tried but maybe I missed something

[little tulip]

i prefer it like this can really see the arcanist cadaver etc

[main bobcat]

yeah you gotta pick up kovaak GM aim train routine

[rugged basalt]

the jumping i experience is very minor on platynator but the profile colour coordinates priority adds

[main bobcat]

45s vertical tracking 30s horizontal tracking and prefire angles

[little tulip]

jjust get right up next to the monitor and sniff em y'know

[main bobcat]

your plater WILL be disabled if you miss

[little tulip]

biggest thing about making that hero dagger 4 weeks ago

is the 6.6k overkills that keep happening in 16-17s

but also they're buffing our self heal so idk if it's just loss of vers as a stat <_>

[sharp viper]

it certainly needs a lot more practice

[dire flume]

arent you supposed to include text with the scam

[brave gyro]

Fr especially octobossy

[main bobcat]

@static glacier lunchtime aram log in

[iron thorn]

Have you ever seen an evoker upheaval the enemies out of your melee range?

It’s lovely how nameplates are dancing around after that

[little tulip]

ye to yap more i think platynator has a better out of the box presentation than plater

plater gets better with dungeon packs etc

got da 16 wr woo

[viscid spear]

This is how I'll play when we fight Xal'atath

[little tulip]

not if i sniff xal first*

[rugged basalt]

doing MT now....

my last key for 13 resil is AA but its my key

[dire flume]

aa fucking blows

[rugged basalt]

the bear was the worst tank i had ever seen

[viscid spear]

YOU ARE NOT A STUDENT HERE

[rugged basalt]

5 man wipe during bloodlust

and then we all died in the library sneaky area

somehow????

[dire flume]

i dont question anything that happens in aa pugs

[rugged basalt]

no this was MT

[dire flume]

its just as shit this season as it was in dragonflight

oh

the books hurt

[little tulip]

YOU WHEL NOT PASS THE SEMESTER and learn from dis

[rugged basalt]

they suck

just tank

[little tulip]

aheh

[rugged basalt]

aa is bearable i just dont like the last boss

[viscid spear]

THESE ARE SACRED HALLS OF LEARNING

[little tulip]

the timer goes off a cliff pretty hard after the 14-15 bracket

1 minute finishes with no deaths if everyone is just doing maximum safe pulls

[rugged basalt]

it took me 20 min to get into a lobby

[little tulip]

buuut also tf has full myth gear on 4/23/2026

[rugged basalt]

but thats bc of time zones

[viscid spear]

I mostly do only 10s but tanks love to pull the entire tree room.

[rugged basalt]

sudden demise

[little tulip]

i feel like arcane mage from last season

[rugged basalt]

not this season?

[little tulip]

mage was even squishier tww s2/s3 imo

no one noticed cause hunters were played every key

[viscid spear]

Tank grabs the buff, rides up stairs, grabs entire room.
Doesn't wait to see if healer and dps are with them.

[rugged basalt]

who needs them

they did their job

[viscid spear]

One time a healer rode up the stairs and got murked by the trio of bugs pack that the tank hadn't gotten yet.
Healer left group.

[dire flume]

i feel like the aa tree pull is just purely dependant on group

if you have enough raw aoe to kill the guys, if you have soothes etc

like tanking that full pack as vdh if its not all dead by the time meta runs out then good bye

[viscid spear]

I pug so I get ballsy tanks most of the time

[dire flume]

also dependant on if your healer has eyes to remove the debuff stacks

[spice surge]

The debuff on that pull is a bleed im fairly sure

So healers cant remove it

[little tulip]

yeah it's just bleed

[spice surge]

(or well, non-evokers cant remove it)

[dire flume]

It does appear vile bite is a bleed ye

Ok well if your aug has eyes then :p

Also finding a lot of tanks don't actually know how to kite

Either the group loses too much damage because they're full sprinting away from everyone or they're still getting meleee

[quiet oar]

BoP should work too!

[spice surge]

You are correct!

However, boping your tank does come with some other downsides

[quiet oar]

Well just dont be melee Dps amirite!ß

[dire flume]

you can be melee dps

just has to be arms with die by the sword

and only for about 8 seconds or however long it is

ig evasion counts too

[fathom nest]

can you refresh imp. garrote in pandemic, after the 6sec stealthwindow ends, or do you still want to wait till it runs out before reaplying?

[spice surge]

You want to wait for it to run out

[spice spire]

Also helps if tank is a dwarf!

[dire flume]

shame you cant make a dwarf dh

[spice surge]

!

[spice spire]

Imagine leaping that mf

[little tulip]

also the healer/tank combo determines a lot of how that pull goes

[dire flume]

you press meta and they just as tall as a normal nelf

[little tulip]

the party doesn't take that much damage except for skitter wombo combos

[quaint dragon]

nice i still got dupe from bonus roll

[spice surge]

Did you do the first roll yesterday

[still nymph]

the blue post states that it didn't count retroactively and they are working on solutions for that

[quaint dragon]

unlucky

[little tulip]

yeah people are getting folded going into higher keys

i love it but also

it keeps happening

[marsh fjord]

if you played dwarf

you woulda lived.

[little tulip]

if they could put the dwarf in a jar

[little tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/pot-rizz-gif-12101662319896104243

[main bobcat]

By appointment to her majesty the queen

[jolly stirrup]

My condolences that you work for the NHS, I heard only bad things about it

[static glacier]

I wish xd

[frozen jasper]

can you still get the same item twice from bonus rolls?

[jolly stirrup]

AFAIK no

[frozen jasper]

thanks

[marsh fjord]

This morning people still reported the bug. so do whatever you want with that information 😄

[frozen jasper]

think ill just try my luck and see what happens

[primal jolt]

they're out of white monster

which is the 2nd best

i haven't had any other

im literally in the middle of the supermarket help

[shell plaza]

pink

[primal jolt]

they got blue pink bright green dark blue

okay

i get pink

thanks

[storm forum]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Guides:

• WoWhead - by Whispyr
• Method - by Whispyr
• Icy Veins - by Seliathan

[primal jolt]

[subtle tundra]

the estrogen drink

good stuff

[celest crescent]

Yellow Monster Rehab is goat

[ebon cloud]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[spice spire]

Anything rolled going forward will be removed. If you did one yesterday you can still get that exact item

[spice spire]

Solid choice

[spice spire]

Also a solid choice

[storm forum]

Good thing I got my puzzle box yesterday and don't need anything else from AA

[spice spire]

Amen brethren

[storm forum]

Always gamble

[spice spire]

It was a good week for my rat rogue.
Got dagger from vault and myth puzzy b from rolls

[spice spire]

Never do anything in moderation

[runic hinge]

Too bad you’re a warrior main

[storm forum]

BRB withdrawing my entire IRA to gamble with

[spice spire]

Real I gotta do those rolls today (I haven’t even looked what I should do)

[spice spire]

You’re so real

[runic hinge]

I haven’t done anything except a single delve this week

Too tired. No time

[spice spire]

I miss dog pfp lanille

[runic hinge]

I’m taking a half day tomorrow. Maybe I’ll play wow

[storm forum]

Same

[spice spire]

I get that. Been sick all week so been doing whatever

Rogue vault almost done, missed raid last night

[warm vortex]

Yoyo
It’s me, name’s whatever

[spice spire]

[storm forum]

Holy chungus

+7 def mega aggron

I'm not also sick, I also miss my old dog pfp

[warm vortex]

Wait one sec

The most peak thing I’ve ever seen

[storm forum]

I can't wait for the mobile release

[sharp viper]

@balmy condordo you know if raidbots has the eyes of the eagle buff already implemented?

[royal lantern]

fuck sneasler, all my homies hate sneasler

(and incineroar)

[hazy sundial]

can we shadowstep on crown instead of feather?

[coral ibex]

yes

[hazy sundial]

sick

not gonna bother picking them up anymore

[plain thistle]

I think you can sprint too

[royal lantern]

the average wow player cant sprint

[plain thistle]

[stuck lodge]

I'll have you know ive only failed the jump once

So, pretty big deal

[lucid walrus]

Bumping my question last night for other peoples thoughts.

[spice surge]

Just hit buttons, and if you cant, then wait

The only rule related to pooling is chill a bit with your envenom if youre at max implacable stacks

[night delta]

You gotta imagine that you probably did something correctly if you at least have no Tea charges left at the end of a fight

[lucid walrus]

I get that I guess I’m just lost on how long to wait. Like wait until I get half my energy back? Close to full energy back?

[night delta]

don't overly pool if you have reserve tanks

[coral ibex]

let envenom expire

that triggers bonus energy regen

[spice surge]

Let envenom expire, then you start hitting buttons again

[unborn geode]

Someone in my guild said they saw a post about rogues having to regear? Is there a spec thats requiring full regearing after patch

[night delta]

sub has slightly changed stat prios

[fierce sigil]

Short question:
do i Need to let envenom buff drop and After that (when implacable buff is Running) i Can Start smashing Buttons again or do i have to wait until envenom buff Drops and then impacable buff has dropped too?

[primal parrot]

!sd

[night delta]

you'll get the energy regardless as soon as implacable buff triggers, so the moment envenom drops you just put it back up and push your buttons again

how often you smash them is not really important as long as you spend your available energy without capping, keep your plates spinning and send finishers on 5+ combo points

The way I picture energy is unrealized gains. When you generate energy, you just generate damage you get to do with it at a press of a button

that damage will be done, as long as the button is pressed

[fierce sigil]

Yes ty!
It was just confusing that Building up the new implacable buff just triggered After i dropped the implacable buff too After the envenom buff

[analog hedge]

i completed my quest without reading, is 298 upgrade here already?

[night delta]

In a few weeks iirc

[analog hedge]

aah k k

i saw voidforge smthing i thought its now

[night delta]

btw according to blizzard (tm) spending nebulous cores is now safe

[analog hedge]

dont trust me

*them

there is probably still 0.0001% chance to bug out

[lucid walrus]

Even if after letting envenom drop for the enhanced regen I can only hit a few buttons before needing to wait and do nothing due to low energy?

[spice surge]

Ye

[night delta]

Normally low energy doesn't prevent the maintaining of your enevenom buff, at least at higher ilvls

if you really have trouble keeping enevnom buff up, you can just let it drop at the 1st application of implacable, since it gives more energy proportional to the later stacks

[coral ibex]

it is normal and expected to run out of energy and be forced into downtime

that is the intended behavior of the spec

[lucid walrus]

Ok thx everyone. I was just confused bc for example on bosses in m+ im basically out of energy the entire fight (besides the opener obv) even with the whole dropping evevenom thing. But it seems like that’s normal

[night delta]

yeah running out of energy isn't an indicator that you would be doing something wrong

well unless it's because you didn't maintain bleeds ofc

protip : the 5 envenom cycle pairs well with reapplying Rupture in its pandemic timer

if you purposefully let env drop after reapplying rupture, usually you would be doing it right

[coral ibex]

i would not advise thinking "5 envenoms = 1 rupture" as a general rule

you should just manage the pandemic timer for rupture and garrote

[night delta]

no i'm saying it the other way around

don't rupture every 5 envenoms

but let env drop after every rupture because it'll often be the 5th one

[coral ibex]

yea that is not something i would use as a rule

you should just pay attention to the timers

envenoms dont occur at a regular pace, combo point generation varies

[night delta]

of course keeping track of implacable is the better solution

[brave gyro]

Yeah, what if you rupture at 5 or 7 cp? You gonna have variance too

[night delta]

but, well, implacable tracking is bugged so...

you could just count out the envenoms in your head, i've done it sometimes too

[coral ibex]

nooka implacable addon is good

[brave gyro]

It sounds like you're just increasing thr things you need to think about

Which will likely have you mess up more

[sterile swallow]

I just try not to have to reapply rupture when I have darkest night

[night delta]

i mean that's why I said that thing about letting drop after rupturing

[onyx crane]

ruptures dmg is the same right per tic regardless of cp spend?

[night delta]

that's a 0 brain ressource solution that fits well enough

[brave gyro]

If it works for you, who are we to say otherwise

It's like keybinds

[onyx crane]

also they fixed bonus roll pretection?

protection*

[night delta]

if they are to be believed yes

[night delta]

Got a bold Deathstalker user here, hats off

[sterile swallow]

I go between. Just saying that is the only time I worry about it.

[tired mulch]

Just doing everything basically like you said and i have absolutly 0 issues

It's not that you follow a rule like rupture every 5 envenom it's just the way it sets up naturally when you dont have to move much 😅

[night delta]

yeah fair enough, Darkest Night definitely brings more things to think about

[onyx crane]

so no confirmation outside of the blue post?

[lucid walrus]

So are bleeds most of your ST dmg in m+?

[night delta]

I'm sure you could find a recent reddit post of someone documenting it working ?

haven't looked it up

[night delta]

Last one I checked had garrote as 1st contributor

can't really tell you much more, I don't log my M+ runs

[lucid walrus]

Ok thx. Sounds like I might be over complicating the energy thing and should just let mutilate/envenom rip when i get enough energy

[night delta]

yeah, prioritize having everything bleeding, then let it rip

[lucid walrus]

It’s weird bc you’d think the apex would heavily encourage pooling playstyle but that’s like not the case lol

Counterintuitive

[sterile swallow]

Pooling is not fun IMO.

[night delta]

pooling for burst phases, a bit shitty yeah

but a slower methodical second-to-second rotation, I can get behind that

I like that I can just sit down and watch my energy go up for 2 seconds, pay attention to mechanics, think a little, and lose no DPS over it

since spamming won't make you press more buttons over a fight, as long as you drink your tea

(which does require a bit of spamming to happen)

[coral ibex]

i wish more aggressive pooling was required

spam unless ur low is zzzzzz

[foggy mirage]

You like downtime?

[night delta]

tbf it's more like spam until you have no tea charges

once tea is depleted, it's not very much of a difference

[coral ibex]

yes

[autumn idol]

no you dont

you have been mindcontrolled by the assa rogue hivemind

[night delta]

you think you do but

[autumn idol]

snap out of it

[coral ibex]

bro ive been playing this spec since it was called mut spec and you had to pool for enough energy to fit 2 mutilates in your envenom buff

[autumn idol]

oh okay

im sorry

[night delta]

tbc times

[autumn idol]

i didnt mean to offend

[night delta]

glorious

[lunar hazel]

So is deathstalker becoming meta for assa?

[night delta]

not really at all

it's marginally better than it was before

and probably a bit stronger at perfect play ? idk

[lunar hazel]

Got ya. I wasnt even sure what the change did tbh lol

[coral ibex]

wrath assa rogue is peak and i know im a boomer for it

[autumn idol]

jesus christ

how old are you

[foggy mirage]

Sitting there afk auto attacking.. you find that fun for extended amount of time? Bet you like the single button assist too

[sterile swallow]

OH man that brought back old pvp memories

[night delta]

Classic warrior be like

[lime edge]

This is last boss of windrunner

[night delta]

even pressing buttons meant damage on auto attack timers only

[foggy mirage]

I literally only play sin rogue so maybe not classic warrior

[night delta]

peak design

[foggy mirage]

I like how it was in tww 😄

Not bleed build tho

Hybrid

[autumn idol]

full combo points from flipping coin

hell yeah

[coral ibex]

yea you just want to play another class

thats ok

[autumn idol]

30 second deathmark

hell yeah

[final star]

best gameplay in recent memory was amirdrassil

[night delta]

Disliked sin in DF s3 so much (+ other circumstances) that I quit until midnight

[autumn idol]

holy

[coral ibex]

assa rogue was too fast for too long and too many fury warrior players accidentally started playing assa rogue

[autumn idol]

the timing

[final star]

the duality of man

[coral ibex]

and now they all want assa rogue to be gcd locked

like bro just go play another spec

leave my boomer spec alone

[foggy mirage]

Thats not even slightly true

[runic hinge]

There’s like 34 gcd locked specs

[night delta]

I just couldn't get the shiv and vanish timings in practice

[runic hinge]

You can go play any of those

[autumn idol]

no

more like

67

[foggy mirage]

We already have to wait for energy it doesnt need to be longer

You just want to sit there forever

[night delta]

I knew what I should do, my hands were just tangled messes

[foggy mirage]

And do nothing

[coral ibex]

you are chewing at your enclosure bars over 52 cpm

you are NOT ready for a slow spec bud

[waxen oyster]

they played the same

just one had kb

[foggy mirage]

They didnt

Did u play them?

[late badge]

i struggle a lot to reach full value out of KB- often when im using it on its 1m CD as a standalone without DM I rarely ever get to 50 stacks- I mostly get to low 40's.

• i feel like Im constantly refreshing garrote, and waiting on energy for CT to spread it- and by that time, I have 10ish seconds left and im prepping to reapply and CT again?

[runic hinge]

I’m playing feral so I can play an even slower spec. These zoomers are out of control

[waxen oyster]

yeah

they did the same shit

[foggy mirage]

Yeah not really

[waxen oyster]

one just had kb as a rotational button

[coral ibex]

bleed spent more time spreading bleeds but both played literally exactly the same

[waxen oyster]

yep

[coral ibex]

fok to gen env to spend

[waxen oyster]

i guess you sent shivs more liberally

since you didnt have kb

not much a diff

[foggy mirage]

I liked shiv buffs

Removing that was cooked

[night delta]

I liked the messy times of BfA S4 with unshackled corruptions

it was, a change of pace

dare I say

[waxen oyster]

lmao

50s kill timers

with gorillion haste

[night delta]

sometimes a little bit of shakeup is good

press exsanguinate

immediately cap energy

[waxen oyster]

[night delta]

fucking send it to the moon

[waxen oyster]

if i wanted to play fury warrior

i'd play fury

or outlaw

[night delta]

it was just funny

like you know, Scary Movie funny

it was all good fun

[waxen oyster]

yeah i enjoyed being chaos bolted in 0.5 seconds

[night delta]

pulling mobs through the roof in the manor with the zigzag lasers

tanks outdamaging dps on some packs

the stars oneshotting you uncontrolably on Maut

that infamous 40 tank heroic clear of N'yalotha

we need more funny business end of seasons like that

[lime edge]

Hell yea

Full haste corruptions

[bitter solar]

The funny business is the patches we get now

[lime edge]

U did quadruple everyone's dps while exsanguinate bleeds were up

[coral ibex]

r1 vorasius parse is 53 cpm

TOO FAST

😤

apparently kicking nothing is meta for damage

[jolly stirrup]

what has been buffed

[spice surge]

Yes since the severs came up on tuesday

[spice surge]

Because they seemingly couldnt fix the tooltip rounding so instead of 0.75% and 1.25% its now 1% and 2%, rank 1 and rank 2 respectively

[near valley]

better outcome for us tbf

[jolly stirrup]

[lime edge]

Not being able to fix the tooltip rounding is crazy btw

[latent escarp]

[lime edge]

That sounds like a problem for a 5 man dev team

Is it just me or is sin now barely different to sin in bfa

Hasn't it been like 8 years

[royal lantern]

assa is the same spec since like

idk

WoD really

[storm forum]

I think we're back to legion sin

With kb + legally distinct not vendetta

[celest ruin]

priest decided to pi the best rogue spec

[royal lantern]

(still a reminder that logs just got reset)

[lime edge]

Only raid logs right

[royal lantern]

what else gets logged for parses lol

m+? nobody does that cus its ussules lmao

[lime edge]

I log m+

[night delta]

There's someone out there who logs delves

guarantee

[vestal wren]

nicu

[jolly stirrup]

Group 1/3 Gamer on Chimmi

[random pelican]

Every aug I know lmao

[mortal tusk]

How much % does 2p/4p give us ?

[royal lantern]

logging for checking how the run works, yeha sure

i mean looking at parses

cus like, m+ parses are a nearly non-functional thing lol

[glass viper]

I was just outdamaged by an Outlaw rogue

[royal lantern]

and lets be honest, for 99% of the playerbase "logs" just translates into "parses" and nothing else

[royal lantern]

12% dmg increase on a single node will do that

ngl, the fallout in #outlaw when cloud cover gets adjusted will be glorious

[night delta]

people, how do we stand on the Eyes of the Eagle ring enchants now ?

Seen that they were buffed

[high dust]

I hate this.

[humble verge]

https://x.com/i/status/2047078501870665919

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X · Apr 22, 2026, 10:22 PM

[royal lantern]

i mean

sim

it was allready better for me all the time 🤷‍♂️

[high dust]

Same

[night delta]

Ok, I though that maybe it wasn't a sim angle because of the buffs

got it

[high dust]

Did It get buffed or something? I was already using it

[night delta]

R2 now 2%

[high dust]

Pog

[night delta]

R1 1%

[high dust]

Then I got buffed.

And they say assa is dead...

[mortal tusk]

Hey, How much % does 2p/4p give us ?

[sacred oyster]

well even before buff it was simming higher for anyone with decent crit %, which as a sin main you really should have had. I think it was like 260 it started simming higher for me.

but itll prob be a winner for most ilvls now

[royal lantern]

3,5%/3,5% or smth like that

[fallow canopy]

Iirc 3/3

[sacred oyster]

but people wanting to be cheap on gold can just still use crit 24 enchants

[onyx crane]

ugh used my first bonus roll in PoS

and i get the cloak

[sacred oyster]

what was stats of that cloak

[onyx crane]

crit vers

[royal lantern]

oh no, a free mythic lvl item

the horror

[onyx crane]

not free

it cost me my bonus roll

[sacred oyster]

and wasnt a perma lkept item either lol

does suck to get a myth level item you wont keep

[fallow canopy]

One thing out of the pool

[sacred oyster]

i got lucky and got neck and belt

which are BIS for non raiders

[onyx crane]

would love the dagger

what do raiders pref

[sacred oyster]

yeah im going POS still next week for dagger

[night delta]

I wonder why Saron got so many crit/haste items going around

it's like a statistical anomaly

[sacred oyster]

coils neck from salad bar iirc is still better than ymir neck. which saladbar is def prob puggable on mythic though

[royal lantern]

its "stats on weapons are a meme, and if you raid mythic you probably allready have a mythic lvl dagger from the 2nd boss" thing

[sacred oyster]

belt is BIS even vs raid items though.

[onyx crane]

well I haven't killed mythic bosses yet

[night delta]

I haven't killed raid bosses period lol

[spice surge]

None of the items that was in there before had any mastery, as it wasnt a thing back then. They added some extra new items that do have it but most dont

[night delta]

going full commando for now

[onyx crane]

I just want heroic pants :C

[spice surge]

And hit/expertise/whatever got converted into vers when they removed that

[night delta]

ahhhh, ok

[sacred oyster]

do the delves, the delve hero pants osseo are amazing

[royal lantern]

yeha, then the dagger is good cus its a dagger and getting a high ilvl weapon is always good

[night delta]

well explained

[onyx crane]

I have champ version of those

[high dust]

I got bracers, wanna trade?

[mortal tusk]

k thx

[urban saddle]

if I have 0 myth items do I roll for a trinket or dagger?

[night delta]

1st instinct says trinket since you can always craft a good enough dagger later

[plain thistle]

but if he has 0 myth item anything from pit is a upgrade

[rich remnant]

surely its dagger with a crafted OH and then trinkets later?

[plain thistle]

and has dagger

[night delta]

with your crests

If they roll for Myth items they are doing 10s therefore getting myth crests

They get a guaranteed 285 dagger for 80 myth crests

Having the opportunity of a 289 dagger sooner than a Myth Puzzlebox seems like unefficient upgrade path

it's just 4 ilvl on mh

compared to friggin myth puzzlebox

but since Saron has many good items either way, it might still be fine to go for Saron

honestly it's a fork

[oak tangle]

just get the krick dagger in your first myth vault on your alt, and win

[royal lantern]

just do vorasious and drop a dagger

[urban saddle]

okey thanks 👍

[analog field]

But also just farm puzzlebox heroic and get all your myth items from pos. You are not losing anything by not having puzzlebox mythic

[mortal tusk]

puzzlebox myth can be upgrade to 298

but we have 4 week to have it

[shell crater]

I assume we want to upgrade our mh first tho?

[sharp viper]

LUL

[spice spire]

Yes

[quasi ingot]

Havnt got to play at all this week. Can we roll more than once at the end of a dungeon? Or am I a pos spamming boi

[pearl mauve]

do you guys have some poison reminder addon ?

[pearl mauve]

you can't but it's just 2 or maybe 3 per week if u take coins from vault, so I woulldn't call it spamming

[ruby bolt]

i just use BuffReminders but its because it comes standard with atrocityui

[snow kindle]

Anyone else planning to play Sin on Lura

[humble verge]

is there anyone here actually using ellesmere ui

[fallow canopy]

I'm using boli ui

[lime edge]

!ui

[prisma monolith]

Resources:

• ArcUI - Common UI Replacement
  BetterCDM - Enhancements to the Cooldown Manager
• MSUF - Common Unit Frame replacement
• Platynator - Recommended Nameplate Addon (Plater is not recommended)
  (Jundies Profile)
  (Whispyr's Profile)
  Misc:
• Clickable Raid Buffs - Poison Reminder
• WilduTools - random QoL like melee range indicator and cursor replacement

[lime edge]

I use jundies

[knotty vapor]

Did warcraftlogs fuck up anyone else's parses overnight? They just chopped 60k DPS off my crown parse while I was sleeping...

Went from a 97 to a 33...

[oak tangle]

they removed the little blobs from counting this week

[sudden grotto]

I only know that crown adds don’t count for parse since reset

[knotty vapor]

I was full single target in p1 so I doubt that was it

[oak tangle]

intermissions are now counted as downtime?

but that would make it go up

[knotty vapor]

Then I'd gain DPS, not lose

Yeah

[oak tangle]

someone else uploaded logs? and somehow they didnt register your dps

[knotty vapor]

I mean it was there

It said 97 160k dps

[oak tangle]

either that, or some actual fkin blasters did some heroic

[knotty vapor]

No my actual DPS number went down overnight

It went from 160k to 100k

Like they just removed a bunch of damage when it locked in or something

It happened to a few others in my group too

[oak tangle]

you could maybe have giga damaged adds in p1, with the amp to cleave

even in st build

[royal lantern]

^

[knotty vapor]

Does it not filter that damage on upload?

[oak tangle]

i'd imagine it should, but they maybe had errors on their end, check the unfiltered dps to see if it lines up

[sacred oyster]

they proc got an async process filter, so on upload it hasnt been post processed yet, is why its not 'locked in'

[knotty vapor]

Feels fucking bad man

Thought I was finally almost full orange

I can't get rid of this disgusting green number

[royal lantern]

why are you fucking a bad man

fuck a good man instead

[royal lantern]

thats a horse smh

[knotty vapor]

It says man