#assassination
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oh nah brother
yeh
you're just throwing your cds in the bin
look at the difference between your opener kingsbane
and the other kingsbanes
your deathmark kingsbanes are basically identical to your 1min kingsbanes
that 4 min dm/kb against the malus is particularly rancid
you got the hit, 2 ticks
and it died
Christ...
Well at least its a seemingly easy fix
we're fighting vorasius now so ill see if it improves there
oh it's super easy
rotationally this looks great
you're just hitting rubbish for no reason 
me assa
me hit boss
ooga booga
Cos I struggle with energy a little as well
struggle meaning what
this log looks fine
I think you're actually not spamming hard enough if anything
you're not overcapping anything really, so that's good
Gotcha
but like, you're not really bottoming out that much here
it's supposed to be this low
but I think there's definitely room to just slam it harder
no reason to care for your energy really
if not 80 stack implac, keep slamma
Sometimes ill not have the energy to get back to 80 and ill drop at 65
Do I wanna just keep tea on cd?
you're never pressing key manually
it'll just proc
i still dont know if i like that
like sure one less thing to worry about
but i kinda dislike blizzard autoproccing stuff like that for me
do you not like the ambush replacement on mut
I cant even show my vorasius log cos I died lol
maybe it just reminds me too much of when i played mistweaver and lost active healing elixir
Once tea stopped giving mastery it does not matter
yeah thats true
New to assassination, for AA pulls or almost similar number of mobs pulls. Do you just spam CT like 10x?
no
It sounds really stupid reading this allowed but I was deliberately Not bottoming energy to stop it from proccing
cos I wasnt sure if I needed to save it for anything
you dont
What's the play there? Since in the guide, it says you FoK after applying bleed, but on those kind of pull, you ~almost~ always have a target that isnt bleeding yet
right
so... smush buttons till implac hits 80
if it hits 80 and im still high energy i wanna just keep envenom going until I go below like.. half energy? then let it fall?
yea
if you're gonna waste energy then there's no point in proccing the apex
so you just keep slamming
its kind of a vibes thing
if you feel like you want more energy let the stacks drop
gotcha
well you ahve to know if you will overcap
there surely is a number you could math out
which takes some experience to figure out
not consistently
i could tell you 80 and its probably ok
how do you guys get kings lined up without having to pool
what if you proc blindside while you build cp waiting for envenom to drop
what if you're in lust
what if you get PI
so many variables
what if your haste weapon enchant procs
what if you get 5 cp from the first mut
and now don't need a second
what if you get PI
oh yea
i know , but im saying i dont want to pool in the middle of kings and sometimes that happens
yea and what if i got a 76 tails streak on fract
how much do I wanna pool for KB/DM?
0
just rip it
see this is why its a vibes thing
you don't really get anything out of pooling for kb
you could argue that if it's like an amp phase or beloren egg phase or something
you should get to half-ish
but it's so whatever
but beloren egg phase has rp before
same with DM/KB combo?
so you're 100% getting to reg some energy anyways
ye
if you are going into an amp with just kb, can you just reverse your last cds
yes
gotcha
especially for dm/kb honestly
so kb kb then dm kb instead of kb dm kb kb
the one you would be pooling for is the non-dm
is that cooked
the dm kb isn't even worth thinking about
what does this even mean
i mean beloren is a good example right?
could you go odd kb, even kb, and then odd dm kb
you phase around 1-1.15

prolly depends on amp and also if its gonna cost u a dm
if it doesnt lose a use, that seems like a good idea no?
heroic beloren i mean
yeah thats what i'm doing for egg burn belo
why are we double kb back to back
ok but what if the amp we're talking about is execute hp on a mob
what if my grandmother had wheels
wait i see the cook
like a boss that is gonna die around 3:30
!tricks
she'd be a bike
yes, that's just how vorasius works
or like any boss that dies on an odd half minute
week 1 chimmy
ok thank you king
YOURE HOLDING 1 DM

that doesnt work in my brain
i hate nothing more than holding cds really
zug zug
yeah yeah sure
i played sub last ssn
was fun holding cds on pull to line up with add spawns or the amp on boss 4
progging salhadaar myth for first time, im assuming I wanna just dot orbs and then go back to giving the boss the soho experience
?
no no
yeh you just ct the orbs
at least you are in 
aint no way
ring swap and haste flask
CLOUD COVER
my sub set has like 680 haste before consums
gotta kill paladins first buddy
i am so cucked
this tier is such a shitshow
6 heal monka

didnt they nerf the # dispels needed down?
how are people dying on 6 heal
Thats a good meme
Did you tell them they can stop trolling and its time to kill the boss for real
no healing a shield smacking you on the nose
oh 3 tank deaths and a boofed soak
hit them up with the legendary
focus up
Sounds like a fun night
doesnt the fight have like a "hard" timer to kill ret pala
and then shit ramps up until you wipe
no clue
6:30 ish
you don't wanna do the extra soak set
yes
need to kill ret at like
basically 630 exactly
any arcui users here that know how to make the implacable timer only show during the energy regen portion of the buff? is it possible or nah?
ret pala is 10% at 5:30
if you kill early unexpectedly you just get hard cranked by the holy and prot
peak 
can any 5 head gamer fix my stats
we have the dam
"5 head gamer" and it's just raidbots 
ilvl is your best stat
don't think its possible, since you are doing a "fake" implac not actually tracking the thing
why are we showing the energy regen timer 
that's a question that I'm not sure I want an answer to
spec has no enrgi
what on gods earth is this fucking sim
patchwerk x5 6 minute
5 targets 
we are COOKING TONIGHT
why FoK > CT in 5 target sim
react
i thougt CT big dam
wdym
you fok when everything has bleeds
STILL?
yes?
i might have understood your video wrong then
when did that change
mb
GL glorper
Same twin..
the way you said CT is getting amped so much by many talents kinda made it sound like FoK is just bad
I have raid in 30, getting the bench seat warm in preparation
it is getting amped by a bunch of a shit
theorycrafting already reflects all of it though
honestly idk why i want the timer shown. i just think its neat mmkay
I was doing all the tc with that in mind
?
that's fine
NAH
can we track implaccable or w/e yet

did you know the npcs in silvermoon attempt to walk around you
absolutely crit mogged smh
Equal..
sometimes if game feels like it
I mean I guess we can sim enchants and shit
i can use a flask too if i wanted
Flask 
1 more thing would reccomend to craft something
?
i have 2 sparks left
I did belt :3
probably all fine
@radiant aspen https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/r7t7nuVEuwhY3Z33SBXpKR my assa sim for example
Did they ever fix the Shapening stone?
nop
xd
Legs is good one to craft
only 92k 
okay ty
I really thought they'd hotfix it by now
If you have wrist/weapon
you're also simming with caustic/ct but yeh
any day now 
like 2k of that is probably gaze diffy
i crafted boots coz i was planning to play outlaw this season
kek
i was so stupid
By the time they fix the tracking it will be replaced by something different
(as of my last droptimizer i made for raid)
10% buff soon 
nice i have boots and weapon crafted for it
I feel like it might still be kinda dog shit but idk
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/sjQaJYxUzkmX5ZxnGXdpUB damn mate you're right othe tree is better
having friends would be #1 way to get into keys
yeah turns out taking aoe talents that do nothing in single target and then simming single target, not great

not a kill but if I could bother you guys for another check: I'm just full slamming here I presume this is better? (not paying attention to the 98 number cos its a wipe) https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/HhJyLV6W4qvdDznw?fight=last&type=damage-done&source=188
i have them but they are casuals

yeh this looks fine
thats why you're the TC not me
cheers chief
yeh I got that hard hitting insight
tbh i just sim with the CT tree because i play it on more bosses
"oh you're optimizing for single target? maybe don't sim m+ talents"
that's what I'm here for
big bucks
i want plumme so hard i hate puzzle box with passion
amount of times that shit killed me
bro does NOT have cloak macro'd to puzzle box
question
answer
comment
on mythic chimerius, if i got dispell, i can soak on my group? cause on hc they dissapear
ye
whispyr what if you streamed yourself watching the guild raid thoughts
yes

hate watch your own guild
I don't think it's good for my blood pressure
goes so hard
hate watching is so tuff
im asking seriosly lol
what if I green screen maplestory dailies onto the silvermoon floor again
you got 2 yes lil gup
oh i said yes to ryler's suggestion
one yes then
you got one yes lil gup
you walk?
@radiant aspen https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/uWjBD5CEMgeoQAYthZgHsE merry christmas
this will be better in bot aoe/st ?
both*
yeh
none of that should be worse in aoe
here, crafted gear too, pick something from the list I guess idk
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/qrREF3TUTTVUMZcVnrqNC6
helm/ring/leg

dont estimate him
bro is watching me help the elderly woman across the street and then stands there and waits for me to walk him next
hell naw
I’d lowkey rock the engi helmet if I were you avtoo
Might sim 100dps worse
But it has style
if only you could just transmog it
ill go with ring coz our bis is eye of midnight but i havent killed it this week so ill wait befor killing it
No no I mean the icon
thanks alot ❤️
that's a vibe
just pull it from your weekly dungeon box and save 80 hero crests like I did 2 weeks ago
what's the issue

🙏
You know what I pulled from that?
A guidon
You know what I got in heroic reclear before
A guidon
I had to pug heroic for a guidon
i got bird ring from there wich is our bis
was kinda aids
so im happy about that
High crit low mast iirc
oh
crimson tempest video
952587837558128701
dude i am not seeing crimson be better on 5 targets (training dummies)
better than what
sorry, better than fok
See I’m not the only dense person whispyr
I mean I guess I failed idk
nah i am 100% dense
I even re-recorded the sim part to make sure there wasn't confusion
but I fucked it clearly
idk
I think the 10% worse sim being called FoK was kinda misleading
i assume ct is good only in giga pulls still
once you applied your bleeds, you fok
It's there for when I get asked to play sub at some point
My DK friend, who didn’t get the guidon because I did always gives me a side eye when I spec assa

out of curiosity btw, why are you considering sub over sin for alleria prog?
prob add explosion
think the 1:30 looks better
oh wait alleria
Idk how long between swapping alleria and simu on mythic is
But in heroic my dm/kb is not done yet when we swap
That made me swap sub there at least
hmm I see, technically the 2min set gets delayed for like 50 secs just for rp and the cringe intermission
I envy that
My RL said he doesn’t wanna attempt it because he’d rather prog chim
yeh and like having to hold 2min in p2 to have it at the start of p3
but idk how fast we're pushing either
so I think sub just safer idk
makes sense
I need to see if I can get a set with enough haste together
MAAYYYBE it’ll work with alleria neck + occlusions
And flasks
Might go ds for vorasius then
lura is much easyer now on hc
No one really wanted Insignia off Alleria, would it be useful for me at all?
Hmm, I do have Hero weapons for Outlaw...
Well we're doing Heroic March now, but I'm sure everyone will want Heroic Plume
Adds likely get padded away by Devourers
Hey guys, what addon for insta tricks? Saw yesterday
LC?
Lootcouncil
My secret was to join LC
Or don’t you have that kinda thing
Instant profit
You know what I’d like
If everyone was able to vote in LC
With the information from wowaudit wishlists
That’s democracy
sounds like a mess
srsly what people expect me type in guild application when they ask tell us more about yourself like story of my life ?
i just want to play game bro
like im trying to get ce guild not even highranking ones
bad news guys, because I was missing 12 haste, 4 crit, and 22 leech from not having all r3 gems and enchants we didn't kill paladins. Real unlucky
they have this who ass sites with application better then job ones
I mean nobody plays rogue, if they need one you might have good chances at a trial
I mean I think it’s fair no? You’re going to spending 10-20+ hours a week with these people
It’s basically a part time job
its fair to ask questions but not that many and detailed

but i guess thats just me
If there wasn’t a space to write why you want to raid with their guild put that there
Like your ambitions
Why do you wanna raid CE level
Etc
and english is not my main leng so im bad at spelling xD
Deepl write
Grammarly
Spellchecking is free now
At the cost of your ram upgrade being 600$ but that’s another problem
Also what’s kinda good is what music you like listening too, what you do outside of wow
Just so people know who’s behind the username
We have a question that says “if you were a kind of ice cream what flavor would you be”
And we heavily judge people that just put in their favorite flavor with no explanation
Mint Chocolate Chip
That’s a vibe fail right there on god
Ben n jerries cookie dough swich up because I like having something to bite on when eating my ice cream
We had one guy say he would be Aloe Vera flavored ice cream because there’s something wrong with him
That was a peak response
He had blue logs in heroic
But ya know
Instant invite I suppose
thats acctualy good question and for me Pistachio ofc coz its best icecream flavor objectively
I miss Dublin Mudslide
Im sure Dublin doesn't miss it

half baked is goated ice cream
Not too big a fan of the brownie pieces in that tbf
true
can you believe its my fault we didnt kill paladins cause I didnt have 12 haste. Not cause im an idiot who cant see
OFC
maybe that haste woulda have made me quicker and then I would have dodged better
smh my head
rofl
yeah, pervy
ye
zar strikes me as a bitch that shits
more than a woman that poops
o wellge
nah, i got crohns
its like 5-7 days to go man
wait.. but how
have you never seen the videos of people who poop down their pants in like the supermarket
and it just drops out
no, thats not my side of the internet
too bad
Just because you don't look over there doesn't mean it doesn't exist
unfortunately
Reeses cups because I hate people with peanut allergies
based
If you smother your hands in peanut butter and punch someone with that allergy, you're doing bonus Poison damage
chat we made it out of prison

only took almost 3 hours of reclear to kill paladins again
do we ever pool on assa ? O _ O you know,,, for envenom uptime
theres no way we reclear next week
i always am in a pool
fugma
wrinkly as hell
same, but look at this
what is wrong here?
you are a paladin

unlucky
or lucky 🤔
I'm afraid it's terminal
My ability to solo-soak a circle is astounding, apparently
Am i missing a patchnote that says trickster and adren rush are new for assassination or is blizzard just stupid
stupid
all these changes seem pretty cringe
!up
Heroic Birdy dead
My friend (mentally ill) tells me that using vanish in keys as assassination is troll, that it should be kept incase theres a wipe and not use it for damage
How do i tell him
For mythic dragons, you just FoK in 2 target ya?
ye
assuming ur using the no blindside constant cleave build
ye
can drop blindside
and go thrown prec
Dope, thanks!
next week crest will be uncaped?
no
I need more of these
lol, i have like , 4 itens mythic on my bag
damn, are your steaks also too juicy and your lobsters too buttery?
lol bro that gif
wtf
i hope so, and urs?
if theres 2 target and u fok and get 4 CP do you mutilate or fok?
my steaks are dry and my lobsters are non existant
why not lol
i have gotten 0 pieces of gear from mythic raid
lol bro and from vault?
ye pretty much all my loot is from vault
acutally no
all my loot is from vault
or crafting
so i just have crests lying around
waiting to be used
my oposite case 😮
anyone know how to make the debuffs not hide behind other nameplates? this is platynator
wait sorry thats been posted already
@marble hemlock
I gotta summon you everytime this one comes up

what's the lore on this

I will let them explain cuz i forgor exactly
duno how to make it into a gif but have a freshly cooked crown video
Gimme a sec and ill gif it
Anybody know best way to always have bleed rolling effectively?
Like is is, start with 2 garrote? , 6 or 7 combo rupture?
or a 3 rupture, then a 7 rupture? or something
I wanna know
Single is just reapply
but what about AOE
i do garrote, fok/mut which will be around 6~ usually, rupture, garrote, now they are both at 31~s and in sync.
Just tried it, shit is hella sexy
Thanks man
In a like, 10 add scenario on pull, what is better to do? Fully spread my bleed before bursting? or bursting as soon as my bleed is on 1 person, then spreading my bleeds?
I bleed a few times until fully grouped and then go into cds
Idk if optimal, I go for the vibes
i think its optimal for energy
cause vendetta gives 80 energy
and kingsbane a full combo point
if ur out of energy aswell
So spreading all ur bleed will make u low in energy then u burst and get it all back up
but idk
if its sim true
its just a theory
Also, do yall got an addon on something to know if all the adds near me have bleeds up?
Rather than looking at the nameplates, its kinda hard when theres 8+ adds

raiding
Hope u have a great raid WHispyr
and get touched during raid, and get a loot n shit
may the gods give u good roll
what's up
add scent of blood to cdm buffs
Mb just wanted to say hi,
Wanted to know if there was an addon u use or something to easily see if all the adds near u have bleeds on them,
no
it's totally unnecessary
What if im forgetting to add bleeds in a keys, pulling 8-10adds?
I mean ill do the scent of blood thingy, see how many stack I got,
So I know when to stop spamming crimson tempest
and start using FoK
How cursed is it to have no MW on paladins
very.
Yeah..
it's "doable"
but like
there are a lot of th ings that are doable
but you shouldnt do
no razor wire on the council bosses is fucking with my muscle memory :<
yeah I think we're bringing in 1-2 next night
But you don’t stop until everything has bleeds idk
If you’re pulling 10 mobs it isn’t hard to just eyeball it and press ct 5 times or whatever
yeah they just do way too much healing
i mean maybe hpal a bit better with updates next week
better in the sense that hpal is better than what it used to be, not better than mw
on the paladins fight, is it pretty much only mutilate to keep caustic up, otherwise it's FoK
Mutilate doesn’t apply caustic
Envenom and KB apply caustic
we are no longer in TWW
brother wake up it's not tww
Thank you all
I remember when my key bricked because this happened to me. Im still salty
btw
this spec
is actually so dogshit
it is unbelievable
wiping on beloren when he has 700k hp
11 mutilates
0 ambush procs
is maybe the most pedo design ive ever seen for a spec
fuck this spec
how many damage will have assa ?
I would suggest not buying a lottery ticket
Sounds like skill issue to me
on 11 casts

why would it
oh and
just so you guys know
i did get a proc
WHEN HE FUCKING
RESPAWNED
AT FULL HP
THE MUTILATE ON FULL HP BELOREN
PROC'D AN AMBUSH
NICE MAN
lol
Im pretty sure wow pandemics cooldown manager is 100% bugged
Both rupture and garrote start having the red glow at 7seconds...
Indie game compagny
That’s about right
Isnt garrote 24s and max rupture 32, should be 9.2sec for rupture and 7.2 for garrote
Or is 5combo point rupture considered the max pandemic?
nah wow is just a shit compagny
it just glows red if its 7s away from dissapearing
7 point rupture applied over top of a full rupture gives a 41 sec rupture so yeah that's 9 secs of pandemic
Wow just lying
and saying bullshit
U can test it
but red bar
happens at 7 seconds
no matter what
garrote, rupture, 1 combo, or 7 combo
doesnt matter
wow is just a fking shitty game, they disable weak auras n shit, but cant make a proper stupid fking tool
yeah 1 cp rupture lights up at 7 seconds but it only extends to 10, just bad
This is such a non-issue to be crashing out over I’m ngl
is there a build running sudden demise for like low keys ? when stuff dies in 15 secs i dont do much in 10s lol
yes, in the faq is one
Every build uses fan
we're a big fan of it
How long does a mob like orbs on salhadaar need to live to be worth using CT on it? 1 tick of bleeds?
Wouldnt even run aoe build on that fight
nothing lasts long enough
caustic at most
Kinda why I asked in the first place
if you think your guild is like doing that low where you can justify maybe then
Subsistude orbs on salhadaar for adds on dragons. You run ct anyway. Now my question becomes how long do they need to live for me to use CT over fan
Buddy. Dont mean to be rude. But you aren't answering my question and instead talking about other shit.
Not that long
Garrote big damage
I also CT orbs on salad but prob don’t really need to
But if you’re trying for more funny damage, just go sub for salad
I haven’t even tried parsing mythic really, just funky cleave parsing
Have they made adds not count towards parse on any of the fights yet?
12.0.5
Most top parses right now dont take it on dragons so doesn't seem to be necessary for pad.
I hate myself that I chuckled at this
thats what i aim for truly 
Wait so only boss damage counts then? 
there were polls to remove droplets from alleria
and i think orbs from dragons
or just remove dragons entirely from allstars
but thats it afaik
On certain fights
They’re removing dragons from all stars and droplets from alleria
And uh
Orbs that don’t die on salhadaar
you run ct for dragons cause its a 2T fight lol

salladbar isnt 2T LMAO
Are you stupid or something?
Your question is answered you just dont like the answer.
My question isnt whether to run ct it's when it's worth actually pressing it in a fight.
God damn you are a waste of oxygen
Yeah I got it. Just not from you.
You seem to have trouble reading in the first place. Are you perhaps American?

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sooo 12.0.5 full ST talents then ? 


Two days in a row
What does that mean?

Its 2026
we need it in #outlaw for a hattrick
i think we need this to happen in the outlaw channel now


no idea what you guys are on abuot but im addicted to
-ing
i just hate it when people resort to "must be from X country/region" instead of discussing with something of actual substance

must be european
must be haitian
its a very low and ridiculous thing to say or do
i no black i dominican
Must be from sweden
Relatable






is there a prepull for assa before mythic key starts?

and can i use puzzle box also before key starts and it resets?
I line it up right before dm
I don’t like prepotting or preboxing personally
Oh I haven’t tested the key thing though
Worth a test
Sorry it’s early in the morning im twice as dumb as I normally am
The buff is almost over before the key even starts
I was watching vods trying to see how people play sin in vs and I proceed to see shindigg die mid vorasius bc he had to tank in place of a dead tank
Taking notes always be the first to take one for the team
But is the cd reset
Do you guys have any fancy commands I should know about

Dm and pot macro
Mouseover stun/kick
focus stun/kick
This 70 year old rogue still stuns and interrupts the old fashioned way
hi new to rogue. I got a question about caustic splatter. I looked up top logs, and it shows that caustic splatter is usually at top 2 or 3 in overall damage. I just did a key and mine is at 4th below envenom. Do I have to be target swapping? im following the wowhead rogue guide rotation prio
I hit tab tab tab or shift tab or click the guy I wanna interrupt and if I miss I die
Iirc caustic hits around you + based on the hitbox of your target?
Is this a midnight change or has it always been tab prioritizing casting units
always been
I’ve noticed it I embellished that message
is it the nasty circle that procs after some evenom? I thought caustic was a dot
Hecking rude
nasty circle is poison bomb
You are probably not slamming enough envenoms
Whatever nature damage you do splashes onto targets around you
tbf in lower keys the shit dies too fast to let spatter do its thing and get those envenom chains
My only theory is higher keys have tankier packs so garrote and caustic would be above rupture and envenom
noted. thanks for the info ill hit some training dummies and figure stuff out
What key level you doing?
just 10-12s
Think caustic on 4th is fine then
For sure. Higher time at 30% or less, higher dmg from them
it splashes around the target not yourself
on some special bosses that have huge enough hitboxes it also works around yourself like gallywix
Hi sorry to bother, i'm sure this has been answered already but i cant find info: is it worth it to refresh a 7 cp rupture during its pandemic by a 5 or 6 cp rupture ?
yes
Yes, cp only changes duration, not tick damage
I stopped dry shivving is anyone happy

I can’t wait to play deathstalker next week
do we?
No. But I will
There was no tuning done I’m just here for suffering
I gotta see if I still hate it
When I can move the mark
The answer will be yes. I think I hated forcing to 7 more than the mark mechanic
Suffering for the love of the game you hate to see it
It’s funny cause on sub it’s actually kinda bearable
The apex shit is really whack but deathstalker isn’t a menace

















