assassination

[fluid oak]

isn't implacable tracking bugged since release?

[haughty flicker]

[fallow canopy]

i think so but idk for sure

[coral ibex]

yes

[severe meadow]

Belnana

[haughty flicker]

[viscid spear]

The concept of the Alleria arrows acting different in Phase 1 and Phase 2 is so goddamn complicated for my group, apparently.

Like how dare the mechanic change

[waxen oyster]

so vanish is just back to empowering garrote for part of dm

[native heron]

ohhh okay. ty!

[burnt prism]

why is it recommended to not play deathstalker?

[severe meadow]

more annoying to play than FB

and FB is more than viable

[balmy condor]

and also more damage

[thorn thorn]

Whats happening bel

[severe meadow]

slot in for me for paladins

[thorn fjord]

Do we still env before DM/KB?

[severe meadow]

yes

[haughty flicker]

i dont

[thorn fjord]

im guessing if you are youd wanna PB env DM KB in that order?

[primal parrot]

world first magisters terrace 20 done with a SIN ROGUE

based casual

[zinc frost]

env > pb > dm > kb > env

[balmy condor]

Turns out assassination is a pretty good spec

[primal parrot]

you mean its MIDDLE OF THE PACK

as in NOT TOO GOOD

PERFECTLY BALANCED.

[balmy condor]

That 3% buff was pathetic honestly it needs way more

[sweet ledge]

In m+ scenario say youre coming up to a juicy pack with everything up, how are we using vanish ?

[balmy condor]

are you in stealth at the start of the pack

[sweet ledge]

yes

[balmy condor]

then you're not vanishing

[sweet ledge]

ok so im saving it for next DM ? what if ends up being same scenario ? am i just never pushing it unless im no steath or in a long boss?

[balmy condor]

yeah pretty much

[sacred oyster]

if you end up in a chain pull tank youll use it when ready to use cds on fresh ads

[sweet ledge]

ok so ive actually been doing it right, seert

sweet

[balmy condor]

It’s really low impact to be fair

The only thing you’re getting is improved garrote, and you generally always have improved garrote at the start of a pull

So you just never get to use it

[sweet ledge]

what talenst do we go for chimaerus ? "cleave"?

[brazen falcon]

dragons down yay!

paladins next 🙁

[severe meadow]

@thorn thorn

opinion?

[balmy condor]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/rogue/assassination/midnight-season-1-raid-tips

[thorn thorn]

this is the worst thing i have seen all week

[balmy condor]

I’ve been slacking don’t worry

Dm incoming

[thorn thorn]

oh no

[haughty flicker]

mythic guild btw

last raid night this week

[cunning needle]

are you just not in for bosses?

[haughty flicker]

that would be nice

[cunning needle]

[brazen falcon]

eh...

[jolly stirrup]

Bro why is that the first thing I see this morning

[near valley]

generally being blind doesn't compare to seeing this

why is it so cursed

[severe meadow]

Getting great reception

[haughty flicker]

i like it

can i have pregnant glorp caterpillar next

[near valley]

is that a banana colored glorp?

or a glorp looking banana?

[haughty flicker]

its glorpnana

its been extremely popular so far

test groups love it

[near valley]

test grps

[jade grotto]

im trying to figure out why secondary poisoning is recommended over flying daggers in the m+ build. does it just sim higher or is it a meaningful difference?

[static glacier]

Probably just a sim thing but I’m not sure

[jade grotto]

thanks, yeah I assume as much. just my small brain cant comprehend how its better.

[static glacier]

Remember that secondary poisoning benefit shows up under poison dmg, not secondary in meter

[keen spruce]

it's a quality gllorp

[static glacier]

Your poison dmg will be higher, noticeably so

[jade grotto]

ah, that makes sense. thanks

[sonic zinc]

what buff get in aa

quick!

[haughty flicker]

healing recieved

[strange onyx]

Crit

[strange onyx]

More poison good, more of everything

[hollow talon]

is there any addon that does what auto tricks WA was doing before

[strange onyx]

There’s a macro I think

[brazen falcon]

There is any addon yes, TankMD or something like that

Should have a macro too you can change the cast to tricks instead of md

[balmy condor]

!tricks

[prisma monolith]

Auto Tricks on tank Addon - TankMD

[hollow talon]

cool ty

i was using party1 was MD'ing my warlock the entire dungeon before i noticed

[tawny shell]

This tier is so cursed bro. Playing dk instead of rogue for Alleria. Their info is so unorganized compared to rogues. God bless our TC ppl

[cunning needle]

https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-among-us-astronaut-space-betrayal-gif-23836476

OTP rogues don't know how bad it is on other classes with info

this is the warlock wowhead opener guide

[haughty flicker]

not the web

[tawny shell]

its actually cursed. Rogue guys pin every small rotational change

DK is searching keywords in the search bar to see if someone mentioned a change

[cunning needle]

though on the other hand

maybe it is us truly cursed with this information

because the moment a small tiny change comes out

it's already been simmed 50 billion times

and we know exactly how good/bad we are

so we can't sandbag

[haughty flicker]

insert mage copypasta

[cunning needle]

i was trying to find it

[haughty flicker]

that would get me automodded

[cunning needle]

does it have bad words?

[haughty gust]

u know why enh never gets nerfed? cos their discord is fucking DEAD and doesnt have 5 turboautists simming every single variable every single hour of the day, THEY FLY UNDER THE RADAR meanwhile our buff gets annoucned and 5 minutes later we got a full scientific paper detailing how its a 11.959185% buff with 0% margin of error u did this to yourselves.

the nerf is because of hubris.... you people were not satisfied with being a strong spec. You had to rub it in everyone's faces. You're autistic, period. HUMAN NATURE dictates that you will be jealous of your neighbour if he has more than you, so why do you RUB all those insane sims in other classes' faces? here and all over wowhead? What did you expect to happen? that shit ass warlocks would look on those numbers and be like "oh good for them"? so fucking dum

this one?

[cunning needle]

thanks

[proven carbon]

this is pinned in the arcane channel for mage
it makes me laugh everytime i think of it

[haughty flicker]

oh i thought autistic was automodded for some reason

ye its a goated copypasta though

[proven carbon]

i played arcane in s3 tww and it was so much more fun than this garbage

[haughty flicker]

shit ass warlocks is still one of my favorite quotes

[cunning needle]

which class was this pasta originally made for to begin with?

[haughty gust]

i got no idea

[cunning needle]

still very good pasta

[haughty gust]

it's quite a gem

[haughty flicker]

it from the arcane nerfs at some point in df

[past bobcat]

Atleast mage has frost

What does rogue have

[haughty gust]

outlaw

🙂

[cunning needle]

uninstall

[past bobcat]

Nothing but a warm bench

[haughty gust]

honestly i think i'd rather be benched on crown

[cunning needle]

https://tenor.com/view/baseball-netting-baseball-infield-tarp-bench-chair-gif-17736701

[haughty gust]

pallies was atleast enjoyable to play mostly

even if i was doing peanut damage

[past bobcat]

3% sin buff

Still bottom dps if you 100 parse

[haughty gust]

i beat like 4 dps

with rank 1 parse

nb

[proven carbon]

i hate how this tier is so much pad

[haughty gust]

ye

[cunning needle]

the best tiers are tiers where bosses are primarily single target

[haughty gust]

it's the main reason i am playing sin over sub

on pallies/drags

[proven carbon]

i feel like the tiers that have more ST fights are more interactive with their mechs

[past bobcat]

Just pray for another 12.0.5 buff ig

[cunning needle]

killing adds quickly is a terrible fucking interaction

because it's just "pad"

but it's also not really pad because the adds have to die

otherwise you h ave a rashanananan incident again

[haughty gust]

honestly surely they just remove the pad damage from logs later

and then it'll be nb

[cunning needle]

they can't though

they did that

and then nobody killed the adds

[haughty gust]

worth

[proven carbon]

typical parser

[cunning needle]

this boss from tww s1

they removed all damage to the adds that spawn

and groups were just wiping non stop

because then adds didnt die

it's a rather interesting social study if you think about it

but it's also so fucking dog shit

and why i hate fights with adds

[proven carbon]

wcl is so good but so bad

there's no winning

[haughty gust]

thats why you just go for boss dam parse

and let padders pad

[proven carbon]

half the 85+ parses i've gotten on assa is from literally just ignoring adds 💀

though they're all from heroic so if i swapped adds they would die before i even got meaningful damage anyways

[waxen oyster]

i mean you dont really have access to much instant burst aoe as assa now

with spatter a shell of its old self

[haughty flicker]

make a boss that has adds but if you do more damage to the adds than the boss you spontaneously explode irl

[haughty gust]

now that is an idea i can get behind

[waxen oyster]

honestly i dont get people's complaints about assa energy rn

it feels fine?

[proven carbon]

a lot of the time i feel like im not hitting envenom enough
until i hit it too much LOL

[waxen oyster]

well i mean

hit 5x for implac

then let it drop

rinse repeat?

[haughty flicker]

i can only count to 4

[proven carbon]

i have yet to get solid information of how much to pool
some people say you only drop imp when you're not going to overcap on energy
some people say you drop imp when you're low energy

idk what to do so i go off vibes

been working for the most part

if i drop as soon as i hit 80% i will almost always overcap

[golden loom]

when you are at 80% you build to 5 and look at the situation

are you low on energy? drop

are you high on energy? spend

are you in semi high energy and have a blindeside proc? probably spend

[proven carbon]

i typically just go until i need to refresh rupture
then it drops anyways and i build back to 5 and envenom right after it drops

been working out for the most part

[tawny shell]

nah. I love geting info instantly. Itd be weird if the sub rules for playing around dance with guidon was just not shown anywhhere except some random convo in the cord

[balmy condor]

That is what we call incorrect

[strange onyx]

This is true, ret used to be a disaster

Maybe it still is

[golden loom]

sometimes boss is in execute range and its just impossible to drop it

[waxen oyster]

”assa energy too slow”

[brave comet]

did they fix implacable in the CDM?

[proven carbon]

lol

[golden loom]

(I guess someone pressed lust at the end of the fight also for some reason? )

[brave comet]

god blizzard sucks

[waxen oyster]

massive rupture ticks

[balmy condor]

Mean gofim energy mammandge

Sorry

Fucking bliiiizerard

More enerrrgy mananagement olease

[golden loom]

Thistle tea auto procs RUINED! rogue in world of warcraft

[balmy condor]

Dleetee tea

[proven carbon]

the downtime from soaking dispels and madness makes my graph horrid

[ruby quail]

Hi, I hope you're all doing well. Does anyone know which add-on I used to do this? And if you could share that profile or something similar c:

[golden loom]

looks like AyijeCDM maybe

[proven carbon]

wow that looks pretty nice
i've been just using the blizzard resource bars and they're actually awful to look at

literally 0 customization

[ruby quail]

I understand, where could I find profiles? On Wago?

[golden loom]

It kinda looks like that by default I think, I atleast downloaded it and it looked similar but I went back to default cdm anyways

[proven carbon]

do you use the personal resource bars or just use your plate?

i've tried both

neither are great imo

personal resource bars bugs out and makes cps disappear in skyreach final boss when i get grabbed

[golden loom]

only addon I use is sensei class resource bar

[proven carbon]

that is very nice to look at

i will be giving that a go tomorrow

i have my cds in a similar layout so that would fit right in

[golden loom]

since its default it takes like 5min to setup aswell

mainly why I also cba to bother with any extra ui addons, it works fine for what I need it to do as default

[proven carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/bow-bow-down-meme-bear-meme-cartoon-gif-11207927895622607641

i purged almost all of my addons when most were broken in EA
since then i've pretty much been base UI

ty for that

[cunning needle]

!ui

[prisma monolith]

Resources:

• ArcUI - Common UI Replacement
  BetterCDM - Enhancements to the Cooldown Manager
• MSUF - Common Unit Frame replacement
• Platynator - Recommended Nameplate Addon (Plater is not recommended)
  (Jundies Profile)
  (Whispyr's Profile)
  Misc:
• Clickable Raid Buffs - Poison Reminder
• WilduTools - random QoL like melee range indicator and cursor replacement

[rugged basalt]

gm

My goal of getting 12 resil has been slow not in failures but in being accepted

But the one I got into? Free as hell ts so easy

[humble verge]

just get it week 1

[rugged basalt]

My mango is to get maybe 2 more 12s done today

Main goal

Maybe I get boots today. Maybe

[humble verge]

you after resi 12

[rugged basalt]

Faker what was that?! but in a positive way, one day

[high dust]

i should keep doing 12s/13s. i was just doing 10s trying to replace champion track-gear and didnt push those... just had magister's.

[humble verge]

after doing 60 10s week 1, i got pressured into 15s with my guildies

[primal parrot]

oh you didnt get aotc first week?
too bad you bitch, no heroic pugs for you!

[high dust]

that's a myth, didnt get chimaerus aotc first week, went last week as pug. Invited in the first five, killed first try... (jk, I know I got lucky on that lmao. Pugging on manaforge was hell.)

[rugged basalt]

I just be pugging 🫩

[high dust]

voidspire pugging is hell or just me? tanks dont know how to play tic-tac-toe

[rugged basalt]

Pugging aotc pre-moq was hard but not impossible for me

I think it was a week 1 struggle

I didn’t see tanks fail after that but I also don’t do that boss anymore

[primal parrot]

adds are ignored on chimaerus
tanks cant play tic tac toe on imperator
people die to beams on vorasius
etc etc etc

[rugged basalt]

Dragons was a weed out pug boss for me, and crown but the latter is obvious

Looking back I think my chim experience was luck based bc we two pull timothy’d that boss

[high dust]

I got Lucky on chim then, literally went there without even normal exp and got It first try

[primal parrot]

i mean chimaerus is such an insanely simple fight i dont get how people mess it up

[delicate rampart]

so in +5 targets, do you ONLY hit ct? or hit fok at any point after bleeds are applied?

[rugged basalt]

I did that for chim and beloren. Skipped normal bc I knew mechs

Went to n after anyway because I want the fucking trinkets

[radiant raven]

Baloren pug tactic, lol lmao. People are so determined to not learn anything in a pug enviroment and it makes everything so much worse.

[high dust]

I just did chim and voidspire first boss because I wanted trinkets, but I should do the rest

[analog hedge]

how hard is mythic chim

[rugged basalt]

Ct until all bleed, then only fok until pandemic to renew bleed

You’re not hitting ct if they’re already all bleeding

[analog hedge]

tempted to sneak in into guild run if its not hard

[rugged basalt]

Not like you’ll get a lockout for trying it

Go for it

[primal parrot]

oh trust me i havent touched March yet
im having trouble finding a group that'll invite me to chim hc, let alone actually kill the boss

but thats what you get with pugs

[rugged basalt]

I don’t even wanna try lura 😭 I just wanna do bel for plume roll and leave

[radiant raven]

I killed ChimH the second day with pugs, but it was my own group. Best tip is to include something in your message to stand out from the sea of people slamming apply to every group.

[dire flume]

gm chat have you stabbed anything today

[rugged basalt]

I stubbed my toe this morning while getting ready for work

[radiant raven]

Bel in pugs is hilarious 'cos every group is doing the 2/2/20+ strat of one burn phase but pugs rarely have the damage to do it consistently, nor do they understand why they're doing it. So you just pull 10+ times trying to burn the egg and MAYBE get lucky to do it.

[dire flume]

oof

[primal parrot]

yeah that sounds maddening

[rugged basalt]

I will say bel was fine to get used to but crown was major Ouchies in pugs for me

I think I spent 4 hours with one group and we finally got it

[radiant raven]

I did one attempt where we did it flawlessly with zero deaths and the egg was at 10% and the raid lead goes "wipe" as we enter the second cycle with the whole raid alive. Just.. just do the fight normally?? it's not hard!

[distant plinth]

A joke

[analog hedge]

😳

bet

[distant plinth]

Pugs can kill him

[analog hedge]

lemme apply in group discord rq

[primal parrot]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HAxQdOHbEAAZCnn.gif

[radiant raven]

The hardest part of Mythic Chim is getting into a group..

[rugged basalt]

I’m confident I can probably get by on M averzian and chim but need to get used to defensives on vore

[distant plinth]

Brooo

Defensives is trolling

You have a healer for a reason

[analog hedge]

das crazy

[distant plinth]

25 energy for a feint is crazyyyyyyy

[analog hedge]

DAS CRAZY DAWG

[primal parrot]

even as irony, this shit coming from a fellow rogue makes me shiver and cringe

[radiant raven]

ImperatorM in pugs is just "are the healers awake. Do the tanks ping" in pugs. 99% of wipes will be from the big add not dying fast enough and 1% healers not dispelling.

[dire flume]

just run that fatebound talent that gives an rng chance to avoid some damage

and rely on that

[rugged basalt]

I’m weak during add phase

[primal parrot]

FEINT IS A GODSEND YOU WILL PRAISE IT LIKE JESUS

[rugged basalt]

I’m not careful enough

[distant plinth]

Irony? 😬

[rugged basalt]

I cloak the poop rain

[primal parrot]

[distant plinth]

If it was energy free surely

[rugged basalt]

I use it on cd

[radiant raven]

Always be feinting

[rugged basalt]

It’s free bc it’s right there

The ABCs

[radiant raven]

It's good because you do a little spin

[rugged basalt]

Always be cfeinting

[analog hedge]

always be cfeinting

damnit u beat me to it

[distant plinth]

Cant be feinting when u dont have it on ur bar

[primal parrot]

save a raid
use feint
it will let you dps more

[distant plinth]

https://tenor.com/view/tkt-smart-gif-20642718

[rugged basalt]

It’s mouse4

Sometimes I feint on accident too

[primal parrot]

one time i inhaled too much ethanol fumes and i feinted

[dire flume]

feint on q dont @ me

[distant plinth]

Haha im jk, feint is life

[rugged basalt]

I dm on q

[dire flume]

dm on alt+1 dont @ me

[distant plinth]

I feint on E

[rugged basalt]

I can see that

[primal parrot]

dm on F

[dire flume]

no

[primal parrot]

cuz we press F for da mob

[dire flume]

f is the kick button

[radiant raven]

F is shadowstep

[primal parrot]

f stands for fuck you c is for kick

[distant plinth]

K is fir Kick

[analog hedge]

what

i dm on ctrl W

which sometimes fail

[distant plinth]

Hahahahaha

[analog hedge]

i should change it..

[distant plinth]

Ctrl W

[dire flume]

any movement keys with modifiers is so bad

[distant plinth]

U crazy

[rugged basalt]

I’ve been using the wrong profile on my keyboard for weeks so I’ve been accidentally hitting dm upon even breathing a little more deeply

[dire flume]

thats begging for a misclick

[rugged basalt]

I still haven’t changed it

[radiant raven]

Ctrl+W as an ability bind owns, that's amazing, I love it.

[analog hedge]

most of my big cd on are on ctrl + something

[rugged basalt]

Shadowstep on t

[primal parrot]

shadowstep on x

[distant plinth]

Cds always ctrl 1

Hp pot ctrl 2

[analog hedge]

my KB is ctrl Y

[radiant raven]

Cooldowns on Ctrl+Mousewheel up/down.

[rugged basalt]

q shiftq

[analog hedge]

okay typing kt out loud makes me feels insane

i should rebind

[primal parrot]

kingsbane on q

qingsbane

[rugged basalt]

League preset so random keys are 0.01 🫩

[analog hedge]

not logged in but u can see it here lmao

why am i binding TT

[rugged basalt]

It’s ok I still wet shiv with the TWW macro

[analog hedge]

ctrl w sometimes fail and i just walked doing nothing

"yeah i did deathmark that dw"

[primal parrot]

FoK on shift+4

[rugged basalt]

FoK on f

[worn geyser]

yalls binds are insane, my kb on c, dm on v gg

[rugged basalt]

/gquit on mouse5

[primal parrot]

/gquit on scrollwheel

[analog hedge]

why do u have gquit binded sob

[rugged basalt]

I’d do anything and I mean anything for a bit

That almost read like something dracula flow would say

[primal parrot]

my kingsbane damage so cracked llane wrynn rose out of his grave just so he could die from it again

[humble verge]

cd on q and e bro

[iron carbon]

Good morning poisons guys

[golden loom]

thats mutilate and fok

leaugue players rise up

[strange onyx]

Good morning

[radiant raven]

that's strafe left and right, though

[dire flume]

e is indeed fok well done

[rugged basalt]

Defensives on ?? and f obviously

[dire flume]

feint on q, cloak on alt+2, evasion on alt+5

[golden loom]

perfection

[dire flume]

control modifier for kick

l

[rugged basalt]

y ct not on c-T

[iron carbon]

Agreed

[dire flume]

3 different binds for deathmark

[rugged basalt]

u have augment bound to a key

What

[radiant raven]

puzzle box....

[golden loom]

usually the augment rune is gateway control shard

[distant plinth]

Wha is shift 3

[golden loom]

shift 3 is dm without a pot

incase I wanna hold pot

[rugged basalt]

Potted dm, non potted dm, a secret third dm? Is it forcibly use weaker pot dm?

[golden loom]

the 3rd dm is not used

its a no pot with trinket dm tho

[distant plinth]

Hahaha

[golden loom]

so incase I need it I would drag it into 1 of the other slots

[rugged basalt]

My potted dm cycles from strongest to weakest but I have a separate one I swap to if I wanna only use weaker pots

Like I’m not using golden pots in progs

[golden loom]

the good thing is you can move stuff around if you need to

[rugged basalt]

makes sense

Is that a shadowstepkick bind

[golden loom]

nah its just normal step and focus step

[strange onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/crypto-cryptoflash-tattoo-traditional-flash-gif-8834747959288064151

[golden loom]

for stuff like dimmy

[rugged basalt]

Oh I see

I was like is this tech I’m sleeping on

[strange onyx]

Your guild doesn’t provide you pots?

[golden loom]

those pots are fleeting

#showtooltip Deathmark
/use item:245898
/use item:241308
/use item:241309
/cast Deathmark
if anyone wants a macro with all pots going from fleeting -> rank 2 -> rank 1

[strange onyx]

We get 40 pots every night on prog

[golden loom]

wtf we only get 20

[analog hedge]

do you have dead bodies in your basement...?

[balmy condor]

On god her box be puzzlin me

[analog hedge]

puzzle box on 1...?

not mutilate...?

[balmy condor]

That shit be a fucking enigma

[rugged basalt]

I pug prog as well

[golden loom]

I am a moba player

[radiant raven]

the puzzle is why it's there and not in the ocean

[golden loom]

where qwer are used so I am not used to spam 123

[analog hedge]

by this logic T should be ur kb or dm

ur ultimate

[dire flume]

i be going at that shit like im trying to speedrun a rubix cube ong

[analog hedge]

👀

[golden loom]

no? envenom is our ult

[rugged basalt]

She call me a twinket the way I’m always puzzled looking at her box

[analog hedge]

ig...

[rugged basalt]

I’m here all day thank you.

[radiant raven]

I wonder if it is a rubix cube like thing. Or is it literally like the icon and it's a small box with a latch we're trying to open under pressure.

[analog hedge]

boooooo

[radiant raven]

And I guess the box just contains.. mastery, whatever that is conceptually.

[rugged basalt]

Imagine a tomato in your mouth rn

[golden loom]

it makes like an opening sound

[dire flume]

its like whatever is in the box in pulp fictionm

[radiant raven]

The rogue just standing there with this palm sized box "hang on guys" they say as they're fiddling with a tiny latch that's really annoying to open

[analog hedge]

should have let u play that puzzle game on voidstorm during the cast

and ur mastery is based on how many u solved

😂

[radiant raven]

hell yeah

that would be amazing

[golden loom]

also idk how people spam 123 in an efficient manner while also moving with wasd

qer are way easier

[rugged basalt]

I was boxing when looking for the non horny boss in Nxp. Party was aggressively pinging that he was right next to me I was like hol on 😭

[strange onyx]

What you mean you pug prog?

[dire flume]

it should pause the key/raid for everyone while you do it as well

[rugged basalt]

Guild hasn’t started mythic raiding yet so I be pugging m groups to get my reps in

[rugged basalt]

I should add a yell to it

[strange onyx]

Yo crazy style

«Yeah bruvs, I already did this boss. Do this, this, this and that»

Life in the lower end is crazy to me

Its like a jungle

[rugged basalt]

I be moving differently

[dire flume]

its like a jungle and youre a banana slug

[rugged basalt]

It makes no difference I just try to stuff my vault best I can

This monkey is starving in the concrete jungle of ideas

[strange onyx]

Maybe I’ll retire one day and head into the jungle

Join some 2k guild that does race to world last

[red schooner]

There are Rubik's cubes that open when solved!

[rugged basalt]

Next season I will be moon guard’s finest rogue just you wait

[balmy condor]

Banger

[analog hedge]

okay this is frying me

race to world last

😭

[rugged basalt]

Thank you I’m here all day

[frosty cedar]

diabolical

[humble verge]

she strogan me off till i beef

[tulip saddle]

Where mouse buttons?

[lethal arrow]

She see me stroganoff so we got beef

[dire flume]

she eben on my neezer till i scrooge

call me mao the way shes on zedong

etc etc

[rugged basalt]

Extremely loud incorrect buzzer

Or something

[golden loom]

I have two mouse buttons, mb1 is feint and shift mb1 is vial
Mb2 is autorun and shift mb2 is mount

[lethal arrow]

She beefin on my stroganoff

[jolly stirrup]

Thats cursed

[lethal arrow]

Putting a modifier on a kick has got to be a bit strange

[golden loom]

My main builder is on Q so having kick on shift q means im always ready to kick

[humble verge]

kick on T

[crisp pine]

K for Kick

M for Mutilate

[strange onyx]

Kick on F

[sullen bramble]

Press F to pay kicks

[jolly stirrup]

Q for kick, S-Q for blind

[primal parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-better-call-saul-lalo-salamanca-don-eladio-fall-gif-25657866

[knotty tapir]

Hi guys, I'm a VERY new rogue with about 7 days of /played in total on my rogue.

I started out with Sub and I love it but it also seems to fall a bit short in raiding - especially on the 3 paladins.

Is there some sort of rule of thumb that Sub and Assa are equal on ST but when it comes to low cleave Assa simply is better?

Ps. Kick on R.

[grim jay]

Thanks for the aneurysm

[grim jay]

Just depends on tuning at the point in time

[frosty cedar]

kick on middle mouse button btw

[golden loom]

thats pings

easy to spamping

[frosty cedar]

[knotty tapir]

Sub just seems quite ineffective on 2-3 targets with Shuriken storm and Blackpowder with the occasional Secret technique and Coup de Grace.

Assa on the other hand seems to shine on exactly 3 targets the way the DoTs are spread.

But thank you for telling me that it is not the case and that it is all down to tuning.

[grim jay]

Sub has nimble flurry

It just got nerfed kinda hard

[knotty tapir]

... and me being new and bad of course😀

[grim jay]

To where its just not enough for cleave

[frosty cedar]

assa is da best... no need for the other fraud specs

[knotty tapir]

Maybe that is why Sub feels underwhelming which makes me look at Assa.

[worldly sail]

all rogue specs are fraud ⚠️

[warm willow]

sub not great on vanguard indeed, but not like assa much better

[grim jay]

It is indeed much better

There are some % between the top logs

Even if its still not good

Also feels way better to play on the fight

[strange onyx]

Chim: Both

Imp: Both
Vorasius: Assa
Saladhar: Both
Dragons: Assa
Paladins: Assa
Alleria: Both

Belo’ren: Both
L’ura: Assa

[knotty tapir]

Well, 15% better seems to be quite a lot.

[warm willow]

nah

[grim jay]

Insane cap

[acoustic yarrow]

Any gray parsers out there? 😅 Pretty new to modern-style rogue. Any idea on how to improve? It confuses me that i can get so big difference between Chim vs Imp

Gray - Imp:
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/id/78356594?mode=detailed&zone=46&boss=3176&metric=dps&difficulty=4&partition=1&class=Rogue&spec=Assassination

Epic - Chim:
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/id/78356594?mode=detailed&zone=46&boss=3306&metric=dps&difficulty=3&partition=1&class=Rogue&spec=Assassination

[analog field]

2:30 minutes is perfect for assa

So this alone will show good logs

[knotty tapir]

Cap on the spec recommendations?

[worldly sail]

also thats parses over 2 weeks, and sin just got buffed on reset

[warm willow]

im saying if im maining sub and dogshit on a boss, i aint switching specs to be only bad instead

[grim jay]

Nah on the 15% isnt much

[grim jay]

You do you, people that wanna perform their best do

And saying 15% isnt much is just insanely wrong

[warm willow]

Nah im right

[grim jay]

Progress kills can be Incredibly tight

Yeah sure fam, nice ragebait

[knotty tapir]

15% would take me from 60K DpS to 69K DpS.

I know things doesn't work like that but that is quite a jump.

[hollow dirge]

15 is huge difference ofcourse

[grim jay]

Just ignore it, its certainly trolling. Anything but a couple percent is definitely worth, especially if you scale it up on a whole raidgroup

If everyone would think like that you would just be missing 1 1/2 players basically

[warm willow]

I am dead serious, go off tho king

[golden loom]

people freak out over a trinket being 0.3% dps increase but then suddenly 15% isnt a lot

[hollow dirge]

being serious about an opinion does not make the opinion valid. 15% on prog is huge, and if you scale it to your raid, it's way bigger

[arctic knot]

i just returned to playing after a while and the energy regen while leveling is really bad. am i missing something ? i have all poision applied

[hollow dirge]

Energy is a gameplay choice they made for assa on the latest class pruning/updating

[knotty tapir]

I am just raiding super casual but I still want to improve and get back to CE-raiding eventually.

Being a dad to 3 young children makes me search more for information and rules of thumb since I don't have time to just try it out. Hurrah for office work!!

A normal week gives me at best 5 hours of gaming.

[grim jay]

Its not a gcd capped spec so you are bound to run out of energy, apex helps a bit but not much

[remote spade]

would you guys consider wich level of key to stop using the low key build ?

with sudden demise

[dire flume]

like 14+

[grim jay]

Never played the low key build, but the actual build is fine on like 12ish

If your group doesnt blast like crazy

[dire flume]

also only if you're caring about overall

and not actual useful damage

[balmy condor]

I wouldn't play that shit in anything higher than a 12

[strange onyx]

If u need any information just holla at me

[grim jay]

Would you play that shit anywhere tho

[strange onyx]

He plays it all the time on stream

[golden loom]

I have not talented sudden demise so far this expac

[balmy condor]

as a certified bleed enjoyer I've played it in 2 keys and both of them were super shit

shit just blows

[strange onyx]

Played it in a 10 and it sucked ass

Even with the bug

[grim jay]

I played it once and personally ranked the enjoyment even below outlaw

[dire flume]

https://klipy.com/gifs/avatar-the-last-airbender-88

[balmy condor]

I can mute you again skoop

[dire flume]

there is no sudden demise bug

[hollow river]

👀

[strange onyx]

Yo, homie chill

You do play it on stream!

[dire flume]

the elite cabal of assasination players keeping secret tech from us lowbies once again

[hollow river]

me, the feral druid, and the aff lock about to be popping demise off

[balmy condor]

if I have to answer some noob asking about a sudden demise bug one more time

you're getting the guillotine

[ancient ingot]

Guys do we have any reason using envenom on max cp?

[hollow river]

[grim jay]

What sudden demise bug?

[dire flume]

darkest knight if you're using deathstalker

otherwise you're just sending at 5+

[ancient ingot]

I saw zerocool stream and sometimes he use it on max cp and idk why

[balmy condor]

you would have to ask him

we aren't zerocool

[ancient ingot]

I can’t )

[warm willow]

As in hes got 5 and builds more?

[dire flume]

is he hitting 5 then pressing extra to get to 7 or is it just happening to get to 7 cp

[golden loom]

maybe he just ended up on 7?

[grim jay]

You are insanelyhot tho

[balmy condor]

the neat part about streamers

is you can just ask them why they're doing stuff

because we are not mind readers

and they can play however they want

[grim jay]

The not so neat part is that half of the time they dont know either

And half of the remaining time they do it for weird reasons

[primal parrot]

id rather just scream at them with letters

[balmy condor]

like maybe he's playing ds, and maybe he's playing around darkest night and envenoming at max cp for that, which would be correct

but I have no clue and it's not my responsibility to keep tabs on the things streamers do

[late oyster]

!implacable

[balmy condor]

!implac

[prisma monolith]

Implacable is bugged in Blizzard's Cooldown Manager, there is no way to "fix" it.

Until blizzard fixes it, you just have to either count your envenoms or glance at your buff bar if you're trying to be optimal. Ignoring it when it bugs is <1% loss.

[grim jay]

Theoretically you keep tabs on what you do and you are a streamer

[balmy condor]

and if someone asks me why I'm doing something, I'm happy to answer

[frosty cedar]

why are you able to hit crazy strikes at the alley bowl after bowl

[balmy condor]

I don't expect you to have answers for what I'm doing though

[balmy condor]

cause I've been doing this shit for 20 years

[bitter solar]

I miss the iw stimming streams Whispyr used to do

[grim jay]

Did you ever think about how crazy that is? Im going to the gym for soon 15 and I kinda do the same thing all the time

Its kinda similar

[balmy condor]

I don't remember a time where I didn't bowl

so idk

it's just something I do I guess

[ancient ingot]

Sry sir i rly check pins and something, but what with sudden demise, i swap from suv 2 days ago

[grim jay]

Its just part of the persona at that point and it never even gets boring

Its even calming

[dire flume]

are you actually a blue haired twink or is that just a meme

[balmy condor]

depends on your definition of twink, but blue hair yes

[bitter solar]

Lvl 19 pvper

[balmy condor]

what exactly do you mean by "what with sudden demise"

it is a talent

[ancient ingot]

I mean bug

[bitter solar]

[balmy condor]

@strange onyx guillotine time

[frosty cedar]

omg

[golden loom]

[frosty cedar]

🪤

[grim jay]

How does twink have different definitions? Isnt it just one descriptive word and then also a derogatory term if people dont like what it is?

Fr

[balmy condor]

!mute @strange onyx 48h misinformation is a dangerous business, sometimes you win, most times you don't

[dire flume]

didnt realise you had facecam in youtube videos

i wouldnt say twink

i would say otter

[bitter solar]

[grim jay]

Bro what

[golden loom]

muted over the weekend

[balmy condor]

you should see what happens when I shave the beard off, there's nothing but baby face under that shit

[grim jay]

Whats otter now

[balmy condor]

there is no bug, skoop is full of shit

[dire flume]

yeah but twinkism isnt just about face

[ancient ingot]

Okay ty

[dire flume]

you could be a bear and still have baby face

[rugged basalt]

I want to see your balls 🛎️

[balmy condor]

okay well I definitely ain't that

[ancient ingot]

Because I don’t want ask before and trying even google it)

[grim jay]

Dang

How are there so many terms

And why are they animals now

[dire flume]

im just actually watching the videos now and why does the deathstalker move cost energy

[balmy condor]

animals are pretty gay

[grim jay]

How

[balmy condor]

"friction"

[rugged basalt]

I came just in time for twink discourse

[dire flume]

its almost like the lgbt+ community has been around for thousands of years and is bound to have labels and language of its own

strange

wait till you learn about twink death

[balmy condor]

you know who is actually a twink though

[grim jay]

Idk if its thousands, but I'm pretty sure descriptive words like that arent close to that old

[balmy condor]

@bleak sleet

[grim jay]

Like bear is 1966

[balmy condor]

now that's a twink

[grim jay]

Just googled

[primal parrot]

HAAAAAAAAAAAH

[dire flume]

modern day terminology wont be akin to ones from years and years ago but

usually people are aware of the gay men terms

wait till you learn about the lesbian ones!

[grim jay]

Its kinda interesting because bear means bär in german and it describes something entirely different

Entirely as in not bound to sexuality

[dire flume]

bambi, stone top, butch, femme, futch, etc :gladge:

[red schooner]

Can't believe skoop got shot

[primal parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/fetch-regina-george-mean-girls-santa-hat-mean-gif-5497996

[frosty cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/man-free-man-freedom-free-chain-gif-2032133702890087634

skoop rn

[grim jay]

https://tenor.com/view/storm-stormtrooper-star-wars-trooper-clone-gif-20123220

Skoop rn

[dire flume]

fr though why dont devs ask for opinions on specs

[grim jay]

Stone top is kinda wild, the others wouldnt shock me

[dire flume]

i know like paladins and mages exist and you wouldnt want to talk to them but

[balmy condor]

skoop knows that playing the game comes with consequences, he'll be aright

[red schooner]

Flew too close to the sun

[dire flume]

i think the weirdest one for straight people to understand is he/him non-trans lesbians

[bitter solar]

He'll feel vindicated when there is genuinely a bug

[rugged basalt]

Where were you when skoop was kil

[dire flume]

as in cis women going by he/him as a lesbian

[grim jay]

Ngl I stopped trying to understand most of the newer stuff that got brought to the public more lately. I just accept it as it is and what the people tell me about them and roll with it

[dire flume]

correct mindset imo

dont have to understand any of it but if it doesnt affect/hurt you why care

[primal parrot]

yeah thats the healthy way to go about it

[humble verge]

she earl'n to my grey until i tea

[grim jay]

I appreciate it if people are honest about themself and I couldnt care less if they fit into any norm, they are just people at the end of the day. I dont need to marry a queer person just like I dont have to marry every straight person (thank god), so it doesnt affect me more than I'd want. Gotta have the people around you happy is all that counts.

[grim jay]

Stop

Please

[humble verge]

[rugged basalt]

That felt more like a gulp than a shivp

Sorry

[grim jay]

Been an avid early grey drinker through class 9 to 12

[frosty cedar]

tea sucks. the only tea ill drink is thistle tea

[primal parrot]

nah we violent ALL THE TIME

wave at me in the street?
suplex into the pavement right then and there

let me go ahead of you in the line at the store?
instant right hook to the jaw

[grim jay]

Im kinda heavy so I'm mostly save

[primal parrot]

[grim jay]

Also I'm about to level an evoker

So noone would want to touch me anyways

[primal parrot]

grab this traitor by the tail and swing em around like a fuckin lasso

[crisp pine]

you'd be surprised brother

bears are in high demand

🥵

[grim jay]

Its just an alt

[crisp pine]

uh not bears

scalies

lmao

[grim jay]

Augs kinda

[crisp pine]

the gay thoughts took over

[grim jay]

[primal parrot]

you've already entered the "reroll away from rogue" pipeline
prepare your final words.

[grim jay]

Only reason I'm leveling one is because I never had one yet and they do that combat visage thing next patch

[grim jay]

Nah I'm mainly rogueing since like 2012

[dire flume]

stil waiting for them to do that with worgen

[rugged basalt]

Do what with them

[primal parrot]

explode them with goblin dynamite

[icy acorn]

In 2037 youll say youre mainly evokering since 2026

[grim jay]

Idk I think its one of those classes that are fun to turn your brain completely off with

Or metaslave some keys

[icy acorn]

Same for devourer kekw

[grim jay]

But no main material, which is probably why I dont see many

[grim jay]

Arent you beaming decently much with it? Never liked eyebeam tbh

[rugged basalt]

Nooo not my poor worgen

[icy acorn]

Yeah but you have a 4 button rotation no matter what situation

[humble verge]

i drink tea at work, if not ill be mass drinking the cocoa

[brave gyro]

Ok, im really really liking Assa in higher keys. Especially MT 🐙 boss

[dire flume]

i hate that jellyfish

[brave gyro]

its so nice for Assa though, you spread your shit to everything and

as long as ppl don't slack on shields

[dire flume]

its just a very boring fight imo

[brave gyro]

and tank keeps stuff stacked

[golden loom]

jellyfish is like the best assa boss of all time

[dire flume]

also why is there a void jellyfish

is the void supposed to be ocean themed

the void terrors dont really scream ocean to me

[brave gyro]

total breakdown from my run.
The nexus ring set (hero track) not too bad actually: +1.26m

[dire flume]

ig nzoth and stuff look kinda like jellyfish

[golden loom]

void = endless deep = ocean

[dire flume]

but then keep it consistent!

void terror should be an eel not a reskinned troll elemental

[subtle tundra]

orgozoa?

mmmmmmmmmmm

[golden loom]

idk who that is im not old

[balmy condor]

my favorite type of cheese

[subtle tundra]

bruh

they fucking

assassinated birb

[balmy condor]

Idk about assassinated

The fact you had to do 100 meter range augvokers and build some fucking geometry to kill the boss is a little silly

[subtle tundra]

well the tank changes are huge

tank wipes are common

[rugged basalt]

I don’t understand the 100m thing

[balmy condor]

Ebon might isn’t targeted, it hits random shit

Which isn’t efficient

[subtle tundra]

you outranged everyone except the targets you wanna hit

[balmy condor]

But it’s got 100 yard range

So you can just outrange the raid

And only hit the shamans

Well, now it’s a 500 yard range

[drifting cloud]

its like the looting crest change, only 5 tiers too late with it

[rugged basalt]

Oh LOL

[drifting cloud]

could have done both back in abberus

[earnest remnant]

if only someone showcased that tech before

[balmy condor]

Well they made it 100 after right

[earnest remnant]

nope

[balmy condor]

Wasn’t it 50

[earnest remnant]

it was 100 back then too

[balmy condor]

Lmao

[earnest remnant]

they just heavily nerfed Aug

after it and made it so you couldnt play 4 of them

but after the rework they kinda went 180 on that

so now it was back in business

[drifting cloud]

yeah 1 week before amirdrassil otherwise liquid would have played 4

[earnest remnant]

you can still do the tech on pull tho

just requires you to do what we did

[glossy root]

hi guys
training assa for almost 2 weeks now, i've never played really high keys, im starting to hit 15 or so and i got some questions about kick and stun macro
i usually play with my regular kick and stun but i just heard of mouseover kick and focus kick
tbh im kinda shaky with my mouse so i dont think ill play with a mouseover kick yet (maybe later) but i just got a focus kick (if i got no, focus, just kick my actual target)
But here goes my questiosn :
should i keep my regular kick for when i need to kick ANOTHER target than the focus target ? (or replace my kick with a mouseover kick for whenever i need to kick a target thats not focus ? but i gotta train to stop shaking my mouse everywhere like a dumbass xd)
should i do mouseover and/or focus macro for other stuns (like blind or kidney shot)

[subtle tundra]

yes people usually also have a normal kick keybound

thanks for the prologue

[balmy condor]

Honestly you should just do whatever feels comfortable to you man

[golden loom]

I just have one that goes in the order of focus->mouseover->main target

[subtle tundra]

like nobody ever uses mouseover offensive things

cause nameplates move

yes dont tell me about mouseover ruptures

or i pull my pants down in front of you

[cosmic robin]

Assa feels really good since the buffs
Good Boss Damage and AoE in M+, Good Boss Damage in Raid.

[brazen falcon]

i use mouseovers for ranged specs...

[golden loom]

I have mouseovers in my rupture/garotte @subtle tundra

[balmy condor]

Yes, since the buffs surely, definitely those and not before

[severe meadow]

1% ST saved us

[subtle tundra]

yea the 1% st feels really good

makes a big impact

placebo is crazy man

[balmy condor]

If my cock was 1% larger….

[severe meadow]

[balmy condor]

Could say it’s bigger than 1 inch

But without the buff, I would have to say it’s 1 inch

[golden loom]

Does it have a weekly stacking buff

[subtle tundra]

1% is within margin of error during erection

[balmy condor]

Just turbo boost

[rugged basalt]

Counting or not counting padding

[glossy root]

You're welcome (thanks for the answer guys xd)

[humble verge]

me when turboboost

[late oyster]

Whispyr love your wowhead guides, How much overal should sudden demise be doing in say weekly 10 keys?

Only been doing 5-8% for me idk if thats normal

[humble verge]

am i wrong or like

doesnt .5 feel pretty early

or maybe idk

[sharp viper]

kinda early

thats like 5-6 weeks into the season

[crisp pine]

Well it's their new 8 week patch cadence

11.0.5 also released like 8 weeks after tww launch

it does feel really early but it's been like that for a little while now

[errant swallow]

Good morning my fellow assassins

[dire flume]

this is basically impossible to answer btw theres so many different variables that go into something like this

[high flint]

Guys a question, how do u manage first pull on algethar as assa, crimson tempest to try dot all ( seems impossible ) or swith to fan of knives after a while?

[dire flume]

mine is anywhere from 7-10% but itll be affected by the rest of your damage, the rest of your teams damage, how long the key takes etc etc

[late oyster]

awh okay thats reasonable 🙂

[dire flume]

which dungeon you're in

[crisp pine]

why does that seem impossible

[severe meadow]

I CT a few times while everything is getting grouped, and then rip into CDs while spamming ct for the majority of it

I’ve hit up to about 650k or something on that pull

[high flint]

Ok thanks!

[tawdry halo]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Resources:

• ArcUI - Common UI Replacement
  BetterCDM - Enhancements to the Cooldown Manager
• MSUF - Common Unit Frame replacement
• Platynator - Recommended Nameplate Addon (Plater is not recommended)
  (Jundies Profile)
  (Whispyr's Profile)
  Misc:
• Clickable Raid Buffs - Poison Reminder
• WilduTools - random QoL like melee range indicator and cursor replacement

[humble verge]

but this aint turboslop patch tho

thats in like .7

[sharp viper]

Has that even been announced yet?

[dire flume]

theres the weapons and stuff

and the bad luck coins

[broken solstice]

I know there was a post about generator conditions in the past but I'm curious, is there any target number/cap where trying to get bleeds on ALL targets isnt feasible or results in a dps loss. For example the big pull at the start of AA?

[analog field]

no it is never worse

[sharp viper]

https://klipy.com/gifs/xqc-gambling

[analog field]

the more targets, the more energy regen so it's fine

if they all have bleed then fok can be better

[broken solstice]

so in AA for example, since there are so many mobs we simply use CT in place of FOK since due to the limited targets CT spreads to its likely garrote will need to be refreshed before all targets have bleeds? Trying to get +17 resilient and transitioning from sub to assa because of how shit sub feels in any dungeon with duo/trio bosses and can't help but feel awakward with CT

[humble verge]

like weeks ago it was datamined

[obsidian halo]

is there a place to check all the !comands ?

[analog field]

why awkward?

[blazing kayak]

was hopin i could stay sub so i didnt have to change my ui and set up my nameplates 🙄

what nameplate addon are people using nowadays to track bleeds and what not

was watching zerocool, his looked prty nice

[analog field]

just a platynator like every other spec

[blazing kayak]

ah

i was just rockin default as sub

[analog field]

doing dungeons with no nameplate addons is cursed

[blazing kayak]

lol i was just used to it like that, was never a huge fan of plater and the spaceship uis in the past

is platynator the one that makes the important mobs dif color

[analog field]

both plater nad platynator do but plater is not working correctly atm

[blazing kayak]

ok ill try out platynator

[severe meadow]

@thorn thorn ngl Sera is becoming a monster

[rugged basalt]

!ui

[prisma monolith]

Resources:

• ArcUI - Common UI Replacement
  BetterCDM - Enhancements to the Cooldown Manager
• MSUF - Common Unit Frame replacement
• Platynator - Recommended Nameplate Addon (Plater is not recommended)
  (Jundies Profile)
  (Whispyr's Profile)
  Misc:
• Clickable Raid Buffs - Poison Reminder
• WilduTools - random QoL like melee range indicator and cursor replacement

[blazing kayak]

wats msuf

[dire flume]

unit frame replacement

so target frame, player frame etc

[bleak sleet]

Thanks for calling me a twink

I say to MY LITERAL BOSS

[hazy sundial]

@sharp viper How did you get pink name

I want it too

[little condor]

do we sim m+ in dungeon slice?

[analog field]

yeap

[stuck lodge]

Any beta players know if this void forge thing is account wide? Or am I supposed to be collecting these orbs per character

[dire flume]

like the renown trinket?

[stuck lodge]

No the thing that will give us rerolls

We've been collecting void cores or whatever for like 5 weeks now for it

[sharp viper]

#transmog mini-mod

[grim jay]

You can kinda check it

If its progressing for your other char aswell without doing anything, its probably warband wide

[hearty seal]

yeah it is

[cedar elm]

day 760 of asking blizz to fix implacable on cdm

[stuck lodge]

Nice, thanks

[pliant remnant]

day 2475 of asking blizz to fix implacable on cdm

[blazing kayak]

whens the best time to use kingsbane when doing high keys. ik you wanna use it directly after deathmark but is there a specific time you throw out the 2nd one? always on cd so your next bane lines up with deathmark?

also do we use lights potential as sin as well?

noticed wox was usin a different purplish one

[runic hinge]

The judger of outfits

[sharp viper]

very judgmental

[cursive willow]

In a situation where I'm forced to hold Kingsbane (mecanic, transition,etc), at what point should I just hold it for the next Deathmark ?

[runic hinge]

Depends on how many more DMs you’re gonna get

[normal mist]

I get 0, no one talks to me

[cinder grove]

Is ther ena issue with Implacable tracking with the buff CDM ? Seems to sometimes not being tracked at all

[runic hinge]

Yes

It breaks

There’s an arcui workaround of sorts in comments here

[storm forum]

!apex

!impla

[runic hinge]

!bug

[blazing kayak]

on giant pulls like academy first and pulls that have little shittlings, how many times do u wanna tempest ideally b4 u just start spamming envenoms? do i just tempest until literally everything is bled? or do i stop after a certain number?

[runic hinge]

I do it until everything is bled as far as I can see but platynator hides the shitlings for the most part

[storm forum]

everything, CT is worth until everything is DoT'd

[west crown]

It’s more like you get a decent amount going, then transition into spending for Envenom in between

Decent is subjective

[runic hinge]

It does more damage than Fok and you’ll have a lot of energy cause of bleeds and dashing

[coral ibex]

i said that one time and whispyr was like ehh thats not very clear bc of certain fok talents

[storm forum]

i can't find that command, but we recommend tracking envenom (cause when the env buff drops, the apex buff activates) and counting how many envenoms you cast between drops.

[runic hinge]

Yeah well nothing is clear anymore.

[storm forum]

also if ur in opener/lust/etc don't worry about it, you'll overcap energy waiting for it to drop and that's bad

[blazing kayak]

hmm i see, ty

[coral ibex]

bonus energy regen is only useful if you can convert that energy into combo points and then finishers

[blazing kayak]

do you guys use something to track how many bleeds you have out. i think my nameplates are fucked, i have it set to stacking but my nameplates def dont look like the way they do on streams i watch

when buncha mobs get pulled, i lose cast bars

[runic hinge]

Do you use a nameplate addon

!ui

[prisma monolith]

Resources:

• ArcUI - Common UI Replacement
  BetterCDM - Enhancements to the Cooldown Manager
• MSUF - Common Unit Frame replacement
• Platynator - Recommended Nameplate Addon (Plater is not recommended)
  (Jundies Profile)
  (Whispyr's Profile)
  Misc:
• Clickable Raid Buffs - Poison Reminder
• WilduTools - random QoL like melee range indicator and cursor replacement

[runic hinge]

I use platynator without a profile and it’s been good to me

[blazing kayak]

i just downloaded platynator but ive always just used default cuz im used to it. the ui has changed so much i cant even tell half the time if people are using default or an addon

this is wox's

is that just default

or is he using an addon for that

[ornate jetty]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1488547832062415010/drop_fixed.png

[blazing kayak]

also how do i get the names inside the health bar like he has instead of above

[hazy sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-scrolling-lipenjoyer-yejrene-gif-22424820

[plain thistle]

with platy? do a /platy and go to Designer, click in the creature name and drag it

[blazing kayak]

is this image platynator or just default?

cuz i think i want my bars to look exactly how his do, thats how ive always played as well

[plain thistle]

not sure

[lime edge]

I have so much crit and the game still wants me to get more crit for aoe

[sacred oyster]

https://gist.github.com/aikar/af8ebb503ebf3a210c453a9ac056f172 heres my profile if you want that does the same concept with preview screenshot.

keeps cast bars in the HP bar too, so very minimalist

casters and current target are larger so they stand out vs the rest very easy

you can see non casters near center are dimmed and smaller to keep attention on casters

[blazing kayak]

ooo that does look nice

[sacred oyster]

and can see this one guy is missing bleeds

it sure keeps me on top of the kick game 🙂

platy did send out some new update that turned some of the interruptable cast bars green though so also kick greens lol

[lime edge]

Does shadowmeld from night elf let u restealth, i dont remember

[sacred oyster]

it should, its a combat drop, but better be quick

[cloud dune]

What is this, a UI for ants?

[sacred oyster]

i dont get the reference

[cloud dune]

😢

I'll see myself out

[hearty seal]

https://klipy.com/gifs/community-ken-jeong-VKi

[sacred oyster]

like i really wanna know what you mean lol, ants follow tunnels, worship a queen, are tiny, im confused where the link to the ui comes

[blazing kayak]

i think he was just saying the numbers and everything is very big lol

which i dont mind, id have to go test it out in an actual key tho

but it does look prty nice

[sacred oyster]

yeah its due to the scaling cast bars up the countdowns are def a bit larger in scale lol

[blazing kayak]

tyvm

[sacred oyster]

i could prob scale that down

but then the non zoomed in version might be too small

but it prob should match the bar height at least

[blazing kayak]

oh does this show pandemic too

[sacred oyster]

yeah they flash during pandemic

but i just ultimately keep track of pandemic refresh on prio with CDM and an alert sound

[blazing kayak]

oh yea i see that

thats nice

oh is there an addon for alert sound pandemic

[sacred oyster]

i aligned the boxes to the buffs, its not THAT far off from the bar but yeah it def is a lil lol

no, built into vanilla cdm

just right click the buff and add alert

you can choose diff sounds for each thing you are tracking in cdm

yeah blizz has the sound thing hidden, it was a while before i knew it was a thing

[slender sparrow]

thank you my friend thats a game changer

[blazing kayak]

yea i also didnt

know that lmfoa

[sacred oyster]

i saw it in midnight patch notes and was so excited for it then friend told me it was already in the game in prepatch lol

[blazing kayak]

i did get rid of this cuz i didnt want the level being shown, is there a way to get rid of that grey box where the lvl used to show lol

[sacred oyster]

that is its own layer

[dire flume]

i use it on outlaw to try and make a noise for bte resets but the time when bte comes off cd vs when the sound happens is like 1 second off

[sacred oyster]

look for something that doesnt make sense in the layer stack

[blazing kayak]

oh i got it

[sacred oyster]

but yeah i debated on keeping level showing but as you can see from screenshot i did all this at start of expac lol

[lime edge]

Wait what sound thing

[sacred oyster]

in your CDM right click a tracked buff to add sound alerts

[slender sparrow]

i can imagine thats such a quick turnaround that something like the alert would suck

[sacred oyster]

you can choose like when a CD is ready, pandemic, what sound to play, etc

i just set diff sounds per diff buffs and then know what just came up ready

[lime edge]

Oh

[hearty junco]

Is there a way to display only rupture, garrote and that stacking poison on nameplate?

[blazing kayak]

it appears i have an extra addon i need to turn off lol

[hearty junco]

since im guessing you want to target envenom on high stack poison

[sacred oyster]

CT doesnt spread poisons, so really you shouldnt bother yourself with that unless you are really trying to tab target to get it on them all

but check in platy designer to see if there is an option for it

[lime edge]

I thought ct did apply poisons

[blazing kayak]

oh true i was wondering that too, if i could take kingsbane and deathmark off and only have garrote rupture show on nameplate

[sacred oyster]

apply != spread

[lime edge]

Yea he's talking about amp poison

[sacred oyster]

it can apply yes, but once all bleeds are applied, you should be using FOK instead. so it being on a target or not shouldnt make you choose CT over FOK

[lime edge]

Fok also applies

Hes talking about target swapping for amp poison stacks

[sacred oyster]

so i dont recommend overloading information on the nameplates with a icon that shouldnt be changing your decisions about do you need to CT or not.

right, i did say 'unless you are gonna tab target them'