cus that was kinda dumb in the first place
#assassination
royal lantern
sacred oyster
but use Tricks of the Trade instead for the first line
quaint sequoia
oh absolutely I'm a gamer that live in sweden I haven't seen the sun for 6 months
arctic crown
sacred oyster
yes
royal lantern
oh absolutely I'm a gamer that live in sweden I haven't seen the sun for 6 month...
i feel sorry for you
not because of the sun
but because of sweden
quaint sequoia
but because of sweden
what's wrong with sweden?
frosty cedar
So in AOE, thank god, we have less energy than before
cloud dune
Better than some places
quaint sequoia
besides 6 months of darkness
frosty cedar
That sounds amazing
strange onyx
oh absolutely I'm a gamer that live in sweden I haven't seen the sun for 6 month...
Take Vitamin D pills and Omega 3 either in liquid form or in capsules. You’re welcome as a friendly neighborhood doctor
mighty rapids
What addons do ppl use to track their dots/implacable stacks
royal lantern
what's wrong with sweden?
all the danes in my guild hate it
plain thistle
blizzard cdm
royal lantern
frosty cedar
CDM for dots. Counting to five in my head for implacable
shrewd night
but because of sweden
Yeah, "god, why did I get born in a scandinavian democracy 
" said noone ever
frosty cedar
Any counters?
mighty rapids
I hate how blizz cdm looks
quaint sequoia
all the danes in my guild hate it
haha I see, it's normal for our little brother to hate on us
strange onyx
Sweden is a shithole
cloud dune
Yeah, "god, why did I get born in a scandinavian democracy <:300_pepe_cry:121699...
It's just *merican copium
royal lantern
the endless sweeden/danes war in guild discord are funny to watch
strange onyx
But it is our shithole, lil bro
strange onyx
the endless sweeden/danes war in guild discord are funny to watch
They are so poor. They can’t even pay attention to the real Scandinavian utopia
sacred oyster
What addons do ppl use to track their dots/implacable stacks
Eyes.lua
implac you just gotta watch your buff
frosty cedar
Imo the real Scandinavia is the Falkland islands
sacred oyster
i use elvui to have a replica of my buffs nearer center screen
bleeds you should be monitoring by nameplates, Platynator for that
frosty cedar
CDM for bleeds bruh who out here looking at nameplates
mighty rapids
I do i just like having seperate buff indicator for raids
sacred oyster
CDM for bleeds bruh who out here looking at nameplates
people watching for kicks
severe meadow
Kinda same, I just tricks big add to my tank, spread some bleeds and go back to chim
frosty cedar
people watching for kicks
oh right m+ andys I forgor
royal lantern
people watching for kicks
ranged dps job
frosty cedar
Healer job
sacred oyster
and i thought we were talking about 'do i need to CT' not 'do i need to refresh' lol
yes for prio target CDM for that
severe meadow
Healer job
Bro only runs with resto shamans
frosty cedar
Bro only runs with resto shamans
Still a healer job. If they don't kick it, they heal the damage done
tropic wind
frosty cedar
I would miss counting 🙁
royal lantern
Still a healer job. If they don't kick it, they heal the damage done
based and 1,2k score pilled
frosty cedar
based and 1,2k score pilled
Damn straight
Everyone knows m+ is for the lower classes anyway
royal lantern
im not wasting a GCD on kicks
humble verge
!ui
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lucid silo
hello fellow sin enjoyers
rugged basalt
Holy moly 🥑
coral ibex
rugged basalt
Holy moly (1)
lucid silo
puzzlebox brothers
fresh kelp
this chim trinket awaits me as well
rugged basalt
why does this shit show double
What you using
fresh kelp
2 weeks in a row surely
humble verge
What you using
i disabled plater and wanted to try platynator
also got elvui
idk if that does anything
rugged basalt
iirc plater has had that issue
humble verge
maybe it does
plain thistle
let me in
humble verge
hm nvm
humble verge
disbaling plater for elvui didnt fix it
rugged basalt
What was it
humble verge
LUL
visual sun
keep the box rollin
lucid silo
keep the box rollin
puzzlebox friends
rugged basalt
Holy moly (2)
humble verge
bruh
something is cooked on this char
it just doesnt wanna show
wait i even have nameplates disbaled on elvui
i dont even know whats wrong
fallow canopy
gleaming geyser
same, you on area 52?
Dalaran just died
analog hedge
surely mthic dagger here right??
frosty cedar
If you don't mythic raid, sure
frosty cedar
That's why I play in VR with zero addons
fallow canopy
why are my plater cooked
Plater
humble verge
Plater <:garf_sit:1334889429449314456>
like
i import jundies 300 times
it shows 1 nameplate for a second
i V and V
and everything is just gone
fallow canopy
Platynator is the goat (behind wangbar ofc)
rugged basalt
Character not found
vapid haven
we all shifting to assassination or nah
humble verge
ok i might be slightly stupid
frosty cedar
Wangbar is the most goated add-on of all time
storm forum
Character not found <:garf_sit:1334889429449314456>
same
ruby bolt
bruh this game makes me want to go assa with legs
fallow canopy
we all shifting to assassination or nah
We never left
frosty cedar
You should all just be playing assa, why wouldn't you
It's the best and it's goated gameplay
ruby bolt
just whatver is good on the boss
frosty cedar
He is him
rugged basalt
I've never been a sub
I have also never tried subtlety rogue
storm forum
did they say they fixed it again?
fallow canopy
Nope
neat pulsar
I was goona ask about this, just tried out and Impalcable just disapear
north spruce
no, but some were hoping for a stealth fix
rugged basalt
It usually works, but sometimes it
fallow canopy
Thanks ArcUI my beloved for now
neat pulsar
It stops working when you get 2 implacable buffs at the same time, the first one that can stack to 80 and the second one that regenerate energy
but if you don't press envenom during energy regeneration it's all good 😄
warm willow
<@105574463969452032> just spotted this
new excuse dropped
storm forum
im jealous y'all can even log in to open a vault
brave gyro
got puzzle box last week and gaze now <:dracthyr_kek:1002454136706580620>
same (im praying for gaze tomorrow)
spice sentinel
say less
viscid spear
<@105574463969452032> just spotted this
Thanks for playtesting after maintenance, chumps.
Now everything will be fine by the time I log in.
lavish wing
hmm anyone knows why caustic spatter talent says +23% nature dmg, is that tooltip bug?
real pike
is anyone else finding m+ super unsatisfying with the new playstyle?
I wanted to give it a couple of weeks before deciding I felt that way
but it turns out I do 
just feels like there is a button missing
crisp pine
hmm anyone knows why caustic spatter talent says +23% nature dmg, is that toolti...
Fatebound talent increases spatter damage
real pike
DS is preferrable for very high keys afaik
doing 10-12s atm and it's very frustrating how quickly everything dies
clear ingot
Is myth tier gloves always better than BiS champ trinket in vault?
lavish wing
doing 10-12s atm and it's very frustrating how quickly everything dies
u rly r a tough guy to please 😄
then go do 15s xD
viscid spear
They gotta bring back Burst of Speed I agree
Then we'll be the quickest class on Rak'tul intermission and Blizzard wouldn't allow that
crisp pine
damn youre right
real pike
then go do 15s xD
but then I die too quick 
idk m+ just feels very unsatisfying atm and it makes me sad because I love the spec
rotund oak
but then I die too quick <:kekdog:907207037757296710>
i mean,u can do both on a 12 xd
crisp pine
doing 10-12s atm and it's very frustrating how quickly everything dies
you can try the bleed build if everything dies instantly in your groups
atleast ur bar is gonna be big
bigger bar = better person
real pike
yo I've never had a big bar before
rotund oak
They gotta bring back Burst of Speed I agree
BoS,an old favorite :3
lavish wing
Fatebound talent increases spatter damage
no, this is literally caustic spatter tooltip even if u swap to ds
crisp pine
BoS,an old favorite :3
I fucking loved burst of speed to death
rotund oak
I fucking loved burst of speed to death
100%,enjoyed every second playing bos
clear ingot
BoS was such a cringe rbg meta though ngl
neat pulsar
shiv not in the rota ? even with 10 energy talent ?
clear ingot
shadowstep really is better for skill expression in pvp and BoS was so good to not run
rotund oak
arena is where its at
clear ingot
BoS was meta in 3s too
crisp pine
I liked rbgs with BoS tbh
clear ingot
but moreso in rbgs
crisp pine
but I never went far in pvp
rotund oak
bos bos was meta everywhere
crisp pine
bos was bis for farming old raids too
fallow canopy
clear ingot
because shadowstep has more skill expression
crisp pine
<:st_Madge:945174142385291264>
yea they deleted rogue sadly
thorn thorn
neat pulsar
shiv not in the rota ? even with 10 energy talent ?
crisp pine
~~no, this is literally caustic spatter tooltip even if u swap to ds~~
Well I just checked and it says 18% for me if I pick deathstalker and 23% with fatebound
Granted I am EU so I get the cool buffs tomorrow
maybe Tooltip bugged in na
stark mirage
!wa
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lavish wing
Well I just checked and it says 18% for me if I pick deathstalker and 23% with f...
no, i activated ds but at didnt apply changes cause i had to choose some ds talents first, just activation aint enough
so mea culpa
it is still 18
crisp pine
ah lmao
lavish wing
i guess my wishful eyes saw what they wanted to see
im thinking these days how stupid is to have 2 button rotations and 150 talents per spec
its hard to know sometimes from where the things r coming
viscid spear
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I have to bookmark this shit, I always see it when I'm not at home and then forget
lavish wing
i tried unh dk the other day after probably 10 years or more and deadass got frustrated just by looking at all those talents I know jask shit about
fallow canopy
📈
crisp pine
i tried unh dk the other day after probably 10 years or more and deadass got fru...
gotta manually check every talent to see where those sweet +2% plague damage are coming from
I actually liked the MoP Talent Trees but I can't admit that cause people will kill me
fallow canopy
my rat ass monk 🫄
humble verge
my rat ass monk 🫄
how rat
lavish wing
I actually liked the MoP Talent Trees but I can't admit that cause people will k...
well i mean having a few simple talents and 150 spells in rotation is as silly as having other way around
but i guess now it would fit perfectly
fallow canopy
idk what to tell you 
worldly sail
analog field
i mean rat can be he is 3rd -4th alt
fallow canopy
idk how I'm 273 on that character honestly
analog field
273 with 275 is a big diff though
ocean ore
anyone doing keys already? are we pumping more than sub? hope so
analog field
anyone doing keys already? are we pumping more than sub? hope so
how can you measure that?
crisp pine
how can you measure that?
invite a sub to the group and mog them
fallow canopy
how can you measure that?
vibes 
viscid spear
invite a sub to the group and mog them
I check "No other Rogue in group" when I use the group finder.
Have you ever played with a Rogue? Disgusting.
crisp pine
Rogue players are the worst yea
ocean ore
Have you ever played with a Rogue? Disgusting.
we hate ourselfs
playing rogue its like self punishment for bad decisions in life
paper wraith
is it at all worth it to create a cancel aura macro to take off envenom buff to get the energy regen faster lol
analog field
no
plain thistle
lol
sacred oyster
trinket sims higher, i dont myth raid so puzzlebox + prism is prob my bis as i really dont want another use trinket lol. unless i get lucky and get a gaze in a pug but that may be a while to mythic pug.
little condor
Is it worth switching to assa now I will start prgressing mythic this week and I am collecting haste crit gear for assa. Sadly Logs say assa is horrible for First Boss, but good for second Boss. I dont want to be benched 😅
analog field
in general you have better boss dmg
sacred oyster
ive had no issue on first boss in norm/hero.
analog field
for the first if your group can;t kill add stay sub
grim jay
trinket sims higher, i dont myth raid so puzzlebox + prism is prob my bis as i r...
Pugging myth Chim is already quite possible tbf
If you try it on reset day or the day after
little condor
for the first if your group can;t kill add stay sub
I am thinking about recrafting my items for the stats. Should probably wait for second Boss then?
polar sail
How assa feel now if anyone try
sacred oyster
How assa feel now if anyone try
well you can answer 'better dmg than yesterday' without trying
past bobcat
But you do a tiny bit more damage
polar sail
Cool
analog field
I am thinking about recrafting my items for the stats. Should probably wait for ...
why recraft
similar stats for both
frosty cedar
Is it worth switching to assa now I will start prgressing mythic this week and I...
fake news, my assa log is only 10k behind the best sub and he is for sure padding
waxen oyster
(apply atrophic)
little condor
why recraft
Crafted dagger and waist with haste/mastery thought about recrafting to haste/crit
little condor
On vacation Right now so can’t answer that. But my assa specc used to sim ~10k less than sub. I had close to no crit stats at all.
golden loom
well thats not tied to stats
ocean ore
fake news, my assa log is only 10k behind the best sub and he is for sure paddin...
this raid sucks a fuck, all bosses are about padding
frosty cedar
this raid sucks a fuck, all bosses are about padding
half decent guilds at least can recognise it 😄
waxen oyster
/s
little condor
Which stats did you guys put on your crafts?
frosty cedar
sim it
plain thistle
crit haste
waxen oyster
it is padding if you get off imperator to spam bp on adds while boss is 2%
frosty cedar
but for me crist haste
waxen oyster
now who would do that
ocean ore
now who would do that
all my guild mates hahaha
rugged basalt
Does the game actually open now
coral ibex
i heard it was just area 52 which is typical
rugged basalt
No I’m moon guard
coral ibex
i logged in to laughing skull and claimed my vault no problem
fallow canopy
I had trouble logging in but just kept trying til eventually it let me in
dire flume
is there an implaccable addon
balmy condor
No
night delta
bring back wa
Or at least fix the damn CDM
And let addons stack functionality upon its frame, pulling only data from it + user parameters
It could functionally be the same thing as personal weakauras
Without opening the floodgates back for other WA things
weary stump
What if instead we remove all add-ons so every class has to do mental math for rotations
Even the non combat ones
night delta
What if instead we remove all add-ons so every class has to do mental math for r...
Remove duration trackers
coral ibex
counting to 5 is literally impossible
red sail
Just count to 5, not that hard
night delta
Let people count in their head, that's skill expression right there
still nymph
hey, quick question: is it possible for us to reset bosses? I tried the mage order of throwing knife -> vanish, but i still get infight.
coral ibex
like actually tho if you are ever doing your rotation and you have to wonder how many stacks do i have? should i let them drop for regen?
weary stump
counting to 5 is literally impossible
I just think it'd be funny if we make things worse
dire flume
its not really about counting to 5 its about reducing mental load isnt it
coral ibex
either keep spamming or drop envenom
night delta
hey, quick question: is it possible for us to reset bosses? I tried the mage ord...
Poison maybe ?
coral ibex
the mental load of assa gameplay
i mean everyones different obviously but assa does not have a significant mental stack to deal with
weary stump
While we're at it, remove bag add-ons so people have to use blizzard default
night delta
i mean everyones different obviously but assa does not have a significant mental...
I play with a frost mage friend
He says "wow your stuff looks hard" 
high dust
or fury warrior in general
balmy condor
The immense mental load of implacable being literally the only thing interesting on assa
golden loom
Well arms warrior is probably 1 of the more complex specs
weary stump
The immense mental load of implacable being literally the only thing interesting...
Look puzzle box cast time is also funny sometimes
night delta
Well arms warrior is probably 1 of the more complex specs
Yeah maybe things changed I guess
high dust
The immense mental load of implacable being literally the only thing interesting...
tbf i like it, but being like 1% difference is...meh.
night delta
Still can hear the vegeta scream and execute spam as they climb from last to 1st dps on that argus video
golden loom
Execute is like the lowest prio spell in execute phase
balmy condor
Yeah blizzard fucked it real hard by not making pooling more important
high dust
cringe box.
night delta
Execute is like the lowest prio spell in execute phase <:garf:132017303274389915...
No shit lol
real pike
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night delta
That's just bad flavour
high dust
damn, this sims want me to drop cringe box.
coral ibex
7
crisp pine
+7 pog
coral ibex
7 DPS
golden loom
7
high dust
7
weary stump
6
night delta
How far has arms warrior fallen
golden loom
Its fun in keys atm havent tried raid
night delta
damn, this sims want me to drop cringe box.
Changing my crucible of energies for the skyreach hero trinket gives me a whopping 4 DPS
past bobcat
The immense mental load of implacable being literally the only thing interesting...
is it even an immense mental load lmao
coral ibex
no that is the joke
weary stump
is it even an immense mental load lmao
From how people are taking here yes
still nymph
Poison maybe ?
nope didnt work, just like throwing knife -> waiting for aggro -> vanish
weary stump
golden loom
My chungus brain wanting to drop implacable but pressing envenom at 1 second
high dust
Changing my crucible of energies for the skyreach hero trinket gives me a whoppi...
in my case is +7 and GETTING RID OF CRINGEBOX. worth it.
coral ibex
yes i love being restricted to whole numbers for buff durations
night delta
My chungus brain wanting to drop implacable but pressing envenom at 1 second <:g...
Must... not... drop... buff !
agile wedge
My chungus brain wanting to drop implacable but pressing envenom at 1 second <:g...
cause you are a blaster
polar sail
Bro assa now blast holy shit
night delta
in my case is +7 and GETTING RID OF CRINGEBOX. worth it.
But the wacky burst pulls in m+ though
rugged basalt
sadge I’ll check after I come home
kebab in mouth, coke in hand, game worky
golden loom
@coral ibex I decided to watch 1 more video before going to sleep
night delta
Stars aligned for me on a Xenas boss 2 with box, crit proc and PI
The other dps were like "how ?"
coral ibex
<@137430413919387648> I decided to watch 1 more video before going to sleep
hmm lets see
fallow canopy
<@137430413919387648> I decided to watch 1 more video before going to sleep
top 10 videos to fall asleep to
rugged basalt
aw no box in my vault. just cata gear
coral ibex
for XT you need to rng never getting the dark circle
kologarn you need the mut/bf hybrd build and to be in a bot raid
otherwise you get no cleave
the snow guy you need a tank that will keep the boss near the haste procs
golden loom
Noting all this down for March 2027
coral ibex
for the forest lady you again need to be in a bot raid to steal all the add cleave
thorim you want the opposite and a speed kill
night delta
Wait wait, who tf does the watchers in time walking anyway
coral ibex
bro im talking about classic wrath
real pike
anyone know how I turn on a pandemic indicator for envenom please? I have betterCDM and whispyr CDM profile
golden loom
It does not pandemic
night delta
Envenom doesn't pandemic
coral ibex
yea i'm getting reports envenom doesn't pandemic
weary stump
<@137430413919387648> I decided to watch 1 more video before going to sleep
"send tricks to your warlock to kill him as he pulls before the tank does"
coral ibex
yea thats valid in ulduar
real pike
so ultra optimal gameplay is to wait until 0.1 to refresh?
coral ibex
tricks isn't a dps gain until icc
night delta
I asked that a while ago on here and got lied to
You listened to the loa of disinformation didn't you
real pike
You listened to the loa of disinformation didn't you
FUCK
golden loom
"send tricks to your warlock to kill him as he pulls before the tank does"
He said to tricks the tank instead of warlock cause otherwise tricks bugs out
weary stump
He said to tricks the tank instead of warlock cause otherwise tricks bugs out
It's fine we want the warlock to die
coral ibex
playing rogue in icc is fun unless you dont have 2+ rogues in your raid and then you are sad
night delta
playing rogue in icc is fun unless you dont have 2+ rogues in your raid and then...
Why was that ?
real pike
cause you lost a 15% damage buff every 30 secs
coral ibex
tricks gave you 15 energy and a damage buff to your target
rogues would tricks each other
real pike
not on pull tho hehe
night delta
But why is multiple rogues sad though, if they can trick eachother ?
coral ibex
no, a solo rogue is sad
calm grail
Can you macro mark w/ box?
coral ibex
no
stable apex
no with multiple rogs, the only play was to trick pallies and hunters on pull so they get kicked from the raid 😈
weary stump
You know what blizzard should bring back to increase our mental load
Having to buy your poison from an NPC
weary stump
True, force alchemy prof
haughty pewter
So the game gave me another puzzlebox...
stable apex
but only after completing a 30hour questline
coral ibex
maybe this is a hot take but this mmorpg we play could do with more roleplaying aspects
stuck lodge
vault was poop
weary stump
Let me use bubbling wax but scaled to midnight so I can talk about my goop in raid chat again
stuck lodge
mythic gloves it is
oak ember
Assuming all pieces equal ilvl and without including tier slots, what's best to craft after weapon/wrist?
coral ibex
idk prob jewelry?
golden loom
maybe this is a hot take but this mmorpg we play could do with more roleplaying ...
Its a pve moba
coral ibex
the answer is to sim
stable apex
Let me use bubbling wax but scaled to midnight so I can talk about my goop in ra...
i would wax my bubble so hard
weary stump
Its a pve moba
It's third person back view diablo
Also you know what would be a great way to increase roleplaying aspects, only let boss monsters use their native species language to say stuff
Confuse everyone
high dust
I wish mechanical bosses are inmune to poisons once again.
Or even bleed, for that matter
weary stump
@coral ibex how do you feel about my proposition
sacred oyster
I wish mechanical bosses are inmune to poisons once again.
thats some anti rogue blasphemy there
warm vortex
Question, how good are the firelands trinkets for assassination
real pike
I'm doing dungeons and puzzle box always comes up 5-7 seconds after DM and KB??? even though I press box before them?
anyone know why
it's really odd
golden loom
Also you know what would be a great way to increase roleplaying aspects, only le...
Lowkey in crucible of storms that shit is cool af
warm vortex
I'm doing tip boost runs and im debating if i should do it
cause if i don't do it then ill just keep using it till reset
weary stump
thats some anti rogue blasphemy there
We can have anti mechanical poisons labeled as acids
stable apex
We can have anti mechanical poisons labeled as acids
ACID?
warm vortex
But if not ill just finish it now cause idk if people will be doing them in like 5 hours
warm vortex
we gonna be the stoners of wow
Are we already not
stable apex
Are we already not
atleawst outlaw used to feel like an acid trip in the right circumstgances
sacred oyster
We can have anti mechanical poisons labeled as acids
if you wanna get that roleplay, daggers on metal armored enemys isnt very effective. wed have to switch to combat
warm vortex
I'm pretty sure hte most defning trait for an outlaw player.
is being 14
but apoart from that it's being fucking stoned and/or doing coke
stable apex
but blizz fun police removed that
weary stump
if you wanna get that roleplay, daggers on metal armored enemys isnt very effect...
True
coral ibex
<@137430413919387648> how do you feel about my proposition
i play ff14 with japanese voice acting when i raid so this goes hard
weary stump
But they're magical daggers okay
golden loom
Armor reduction effects comeback??
warm vortex
Armor reduction effects comeback??
Get out
weary stump
i play ff14 with japanese voice acting when i raid so this goes hard
I play ff14 with sound off
coral ibex
Armor reduction effects comeback??
I WILL NOT BE AN EXPOSE ARMOR BOT
sacred oyster
i play ff14 with japanese voice acting when i raid so this goes hard
did you do that just to get the faster CS's lol?
coral ibex
NOT AGAIN
stable apex
I'm pretty sure hte most defning trait for an outlaw player.
is being 14
but ap...
pre midnight outlaw was my coke ye
golden loom
IEA ff duskwood torch
stable apex
now its boomer snooze fest like any wow specc
half egret
I got dicked on, is it a catalyst head angle?
high dust
thats some anti rogue blasphemy there
I mean, we already have dwarfs saying "fuck u" and getting rid of bleeds.
coral ibex
did you do that just to get the faster CS's lol?
no i just get annoyed hearing the same boss voice lines repeatedly during prog
golden loom
"are you a dwarf priest with the duskwood torch?" Welcome in here is full tier 3!!!!
weary stump
no i just get annoyed hearing the same boss voice lines repeatedly during prog
Just prog savage with no sound like me, shrimple
coral ibex
so i change the client language to stay happy
upbeat shuttle
So with the imp garrote snapshot being fixed does rupture and garrote both update mid dot with any stat increase? And if i have an improved garrote on target and its about to fall off if i refresh with a normal garrote during the pandemic window do i lose all of the imp garrote? Should i basically be waiting for the full duration of imp garrote to fall off or get as close to 0 as i can before refreshing it?
golden loom
Playing without wow sound is a massive mistake, game sounds and ingame music are top top tier
analog field
I'm doing dungeons and puzzle box always comes up 5-7 seconds after DM and KB???...
affix refuces cd
golden loom
So with the imp garrote snapshot being fixed does rupture and garrote both updat...
Yep, u dont want to overwrite an improved garrote
weary stump
Imagine, some people have done undermine without hearing the bgm for it
golden loom
So refresh on 1 is good
upbeat shuttle
ty
golden loom
Imagine, some people have done undermine without hearing the bgm for it
Manaforgr was amazing, also current is very very good
analog field
the lower you can go the better but it doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of losing 2 ticks of imp gar
weary stump
True
golden loom
I catch myself standing in silvermoon just listening to the ost around the epic part
golden loom
Yeah its a bit repetitive but was a banger
I like atm that there is variety and they all slap
calm grail
!macros
weary stump
True, I like standing in the horde area and watching alliance players make the oopsie
Of silvermoon that is
hollow onyx
hello all, coming back to rogue recently i remember venomous wounds refunding alot of energy when the target dies, i barely see this anymore, who much should i expect to get back ?
weary stump
Peaceful silvermoon bgm then you hear someone dying
night delta
Playing without wow sound is a massive mistake, game sounds and ingame music are...
Preach
golden loom
hello all, coming back to rogue recently i remember venomous wounds refunding al...
Sniping is dead
night delta
Those void combat and haranir combat soundtracks are hype AF
hollow onyx
Sniping is dead
thats not really my question but thanks for replying
analog field
you should expect 1/10 of the previous value
golden loom
thats not really my question but thanks for replying
Yeah sorry was a bit of a round about way of saying the refund amount is very low 😄
jolly heath
Is it normal that my sim suggested to use main stat weapon enchant instead of haste?
night delta
Isn't it like 1 or 2 energy per remaining second ?
golden loom
Is it normal that my sim suggested to use main stat weapon enchant instead of ha...
Sure, mine also does that
night delta
Basically not much at all
analog field
Isn't it like 1 or 2 energy per remaining second ?
1 energy
it should be 7 and it was 10 and now 1
hollow onyx
wow
night delta
Yeah a max rupture barely refunds itself
golden loom
All the enchants are gonna be roughly equal
golden loom
Is it normal that my sim suggested to use main stat weapon enchant instead of ha...
This is a sim from earlier today and as you can see there is no diff between a bunch of combinations for me
real pike
is it trolling to craft a ring for second craft? do I want the armour embellish that bad
coral ibex
yes the main stat proc is good
analog field
dont you have a 3rd craft also ? or did you waste crests
coral ibex
ring should prob be 3rd craft
analog field
so you can craft 2 possibly
real pike
yeah tomorrow I can
real pike
I hate crafting armour until I have the same amount of non mythic pieces as I can craft lol
golden loom
I crafted 285 bracers
analog field
yeah we had crests for spare
I even got dagger from vorasius and mythic guidon and i still have like 30 crests
golden loom
And now I have a myth dagger and a myth belt with 10 crests left
golden loom
I sent mine to 279 
analog field
mythic dagger was like 1% dps gain
golden loom
But atleast I know what to upgrade first tomorrow
analog field
from crafted 285
golden loom
Whats the ilvl at
real pike
I just don't want to craft something and then it drops from mythic raid
it makes me so upset
unreasonably so
analog field
I mean ok someone esle can take it
golden loom
That means someone else in the raid gets happy tho
analog field
imo in guilds people should craft different items
like one waist the other one wrists etc
real pike
imo in guilds people should craft different items
actually makes sense
we're not that keen tho
I play for myself baby
golden loom
Legs from dragons are kinda stinky and then its crown/l'ura or m+ vault legs
Or I guess BoE legs?
frosty cedar
I crafted cape cause everyone else in my guild was crafting wrists omegalul
golden loom
damn bro you were so selfish with your hero crests lol
Did not waste a single one !
coral ibex
crafting cape is kinda weirdge since its a relatively large slot but it prob doesn't matter
golden loom
Yeah cape is bad
real pike
the only items I have left at champ track are shoulders, legs, 2 x ring and one trinket
golden loom
Nah cape and wrists are stinky
Shoulders and gloves are the same
Then belt and boots
true tusk
hey mates, why its difference damage on logs than damage meter? in damage meter its like 116k and in log 108k
real pike
hey mates, why its difference damage on logs than damage meter? in damage meter ...
do you have an augvcoker?
balmy condor
Poison bomb probably
runic hinge
Pissbomb
calm grail
Is ST and M+ mostly the same gear wise?
balmy condor
Yes
true tusk
Poison bomb probably
Ok, ty
real pike
guys I am really struggling with optimising gameplay on sin, I've tried guides and watching povs (shout out @coral ibex ) but it's just not clicking. I'm guessing I'm not supposed to minmax envenom chains because then I'm not using the apex and getting fewer envenom casts off, but probably don't want to just spam either cause I'll run out of energy more. Is optimal gameplay somewhere in between the two, is my aim to press 4 envenoms and trigger apex as fast as possible without starving?
appreciate any help
hazy sundial
Told you
true tusk
@runic hinge @balmy condor So, does Poison Bomb proc differently in-game compared to logs for some reason?
balmy condor
It doesn’t track in game
haughty flicker
@runic hinge do I get regular or spicy chicken tendies
balmy condor
guys I am really struggling with optimising gameplay on sin, I've tried guides a...
Your aim is to proc apex at 80 unless you’re going to overcap energy, then you ignore it and slam
runic hinge
<@221124352861667340> do I get regular or spicy chicken tendies
When was the last time you got spicy
haughty flicker
I think two tendies orders ago
balmy condor
When was the last time you got spicy
Last night with me
warm vortex
While impeccable is at 80 and we are waiting for it to fall off do we just re apply rupture and garrote and spread it with CT and then back to envenoming
warm vortex
ahkk
golden loom
Sometimes you hit 80 stacks and you kinda want to drop but your next mutilate crits so you are at 5 combo points and you also proc blindside so you just slam
Overcapping energy isnt all about the energy number you are at
frosty cedar
It doesn’t track in game
fella leak vault
real pike
Your aim is to proc apex at 80 unless you’re going to overcap energy, then you i...
thanks I get that but like I'm still doing shit damage, like what is my specific aim? am I trying to envenom x 5 + proc apex as many times as possible in one fight?
storm forum
Sometimes you hit 80 stacks and you kinda want to drop but your next mutilate cr...
If I'm not below 100 energy after my builders to hit 5+ cp, I usually continue the chain. I think the bot logic says 185 energy after the env or something.
runic hinge
thanks I get that but like I'm still doing shit damage, like what is my specific...
Well first things first it’s 5 to max stacks
real pike
Well first things first it’s 5 to max stacks
sorry 5
I'm going to 80 that's not my problem
just bad typing is
runic hinge
Secondly you keep up bleeds and do your cd sequence and that’s the whole spec
fringe valley
Is simming always gonna be the answer to what gear is best and what potentially could be the best with what i have? lol
real pike
I'm just doing such shit damage/parses
golden loom
Is simming always gonna be the answer to what gear is best and what potentially ...
Can also just vibe it out if you really want to
storm forum
Is simming always gonna be the answer to what gear is best and what potentially ...
You can make guesses, but yeah, siming is the most definitive
runic hinge
I'm just doing such shit damage/parses
Link a log
storm forum
I'm a vibe gear-er personally
fringe valley
Copy that 🫡
runic hinge
Your only vibes are doomium
fringe valley
Got the nexus point ring myth track but idk how crazy the set goes
balmy condor
fella leak vault
storm forum
Set is like +.5% dps
Doesn't make up the difference in better stats for a BiS profile iirc
balmy condor
thanks I get that but like I'm still doing shit damage, like what is my specific...
That is your aim, get to 80 and proc it if you won’t overcap
coral ibex
fringe valley
Problem is i don’t raid so maybe this is the way
golden loom
I mean the crit haste one is especially nice
If you have nothing better in vault its probably not a bad pick
balmy condor
https://youtu.be/hSN6-AMdDOo
fringe valley
Sim liked the ring so 🤞
coral ibex
AND a baked potato?
man there's nothing like driving a 2018 toyota yaris and enjoying a baked potato
just cruising and chewing
but its a delicate balance, you have to make sure to keep your eyes on the road and one hand on the baked potato
just throw on some tunes in your 2018 toyota yaris and take a big ol bite of that baked potato
runic hinge
Don’t know why I watched all that
frosty cedar
balmy condor
Sim liked the ring so 🤞
The thing is that the ring set bonus is like 0.4% in single target and does nothing in aoe, so if you’re not mythic raiding then it’s just absolutely fucking piss, like you probably wouldn’t equip it because of the set for raids and definitely wouldn’t for m+
balmy condor
So once you fix your stats everywhere else, that haste ring is gonna get dropped
warm vortex
i actually kind of like impeccable
Kinda wanna gear this and do some funny things with it now
earnest imp
which loses more value in aoe, crit or haste?
balmy condor
Haste
subtle tundra
whatever the sim tells you
calm grail
Best way to track garrote on my CDM?
fringe valley
The thing is that the ring set bonus is like 0.4% in single target and does noth...
hmm luckily its the crit ring but now im lost lol 😭
calm grail
If it's on my target
warm vortex
What do most people here think about Implacable btw
warm vortex
kk fixed
rare stone
apex still not trackable?
coral ibex
it bugs out
random gazelle
They should've called it untrackable
viscid spear
i shouldn't have upgraded my vora dagger
I'm scared to use crests 
coral ibex
earnest imp
shouldnt have crafted outlaw wep
coral ibex
it won't matter in the long run
runic hinge
nothing matters in the long run, entropy comes for us all
warm vortex
It still seems fun
The apex
Also
I'm assuming as per the wowhead guide, we spread bleeds to everything assuming htey will live for more than like 12 seconds
coral ibex
its kinda boring
warm vortex
Only asking cause my muscle memory is hardwired to 5
rare stone
it bugs out
Mine seems to be tracking fine now, does it just bug out randomly?
lime edge
Its not random yea
It won't track ur current stacks if u have the energy gain buff going
plucky ember
anyone here tried BetterBlizzPlates as an addon
analog field
i am really starting to get pissed off
warm vortex
Also
I'm assuming as per the wowhead guide, we spread bleeds to everything assum...
Still curious about this
slate nest
when are they going to give implecable a flat energy recuperation with increased regen afterwards - it feels so bad
golden loom
i want to se the add dmg
I did top boss damage and tank damage to adds
urban heart
so, if Implacable track is bugged, how u keep track ?
golden loom
so, if Implacable track is bugged, how u keep track ?
Counting to 5 / looking top right at buffs sometimes
zealous moth
( i literlly count it)
urban heart
boring
zealous moth
also you can try to snipe the buff on your buffs next to map
if you lose track and need to check what your count is
tawny geyser
Counting to 5 and then drop that 5th envenom? And start over, right?
zealous moth
if you´re low on energy yeah
real pike
That is your aim, get to 80 and proc it if you won’t overcap
so like when you're playing are you slamming envenom on GCD to get to 80 or are you waiting until about ~2 secs left to be a bit more efficient?
zealous moth
so like when you're playing are you slamming envenom on GCD to get to 80 or are ...
depends on your energy
more envenoms = more dps
tawny geyser
On opener we dont need it and probably not for 2nd KB so ig its best to use it in that 1 min window before DM+KB comes
balmy condor
so like when you're playing are you slamming envenom on GCD to get to 80 or are ...
You’re slamming
zealous moth
if you're max energy and getting good ambush procs you can usually keep it rolling
(if speced for blindisde)
wary light
if you're max energy and getting good ambush procs you can usually keep it rolli...
Wrong spec
analog field
I did top boss damage and tank damage to adds <:garf:1320173032743899157>
Yeah I kinda have to swap sometimes cause we are wiping
and i am bored of this shit
warm vortex
!stats
prisma monolithBOT
Assassination Stats
You will always get more accurate results using Raidbots Top Gear, as stat values will flucuate depending on gear and situation.
Agility (Item level) > Crit > Haste > Mastery >>>> Vers
The ratio between secondaries ends up being roughly 40/33/26/1
zealous moth
Wrong spec
ass always is
go play sub instead
does anyone know if simc tracks boss hp% in any way?
i feel like maxed myth solarflare prism being only 700 more dps than crucible is a bit wrong
golden loom
5min patchwerk is a target going from 100% -> 0%
zealous moth
oh
golden loom
Renown trinket is good
warm vortex
Wait im stupid
zealous moth
any idea if the trink tooltip updates with the upgrades?
sharp trellis
Hi , what is the recommended setting for sim our char for raid and m+ ? not trinket but regular item
zealous moth
like, is 135 crit what it gives you counting the intensity upgrade
or is it 135 + intensity
golden loom
135 + intensity
zealous moth
that makes sense
golden loom
Afaik the tooltip stays the same
golden loom
Hi , what is the recommended setting for sim our char for raid and m+ ? not trin...
5min patchwerk for ST / dungeon slice for m+
zealous moth
myth legs it is then
mellow oriole
Why is Hungering victory listed as BIS for offhand:
Its got a vers/mastery stat budget which seems weaker to me than some of the dungeon weapons like Krick's Beetle Stabber that has Crit/Haste. Is Hungering victory head and shoulder's BIS or is this just a "sim it" situation
golden loom
1 is a raid drop while 1 is a dungeon drop you need to roll in vault, the "bis" profile is also only bis if you have all those exact items
zealous moth
also, we still like all stats
golden loom
Change 1 item and the other items also probably change
zealous moth
so having some mastery and vers is still good
if all our slots target crit + haste, lower budget items lose a lot of value
weary stump
This has been a glorp approved message
golden loom
The Secondary stats on weapons are also whatever cause they are such a low amount
mellow oriole
I'm just wondering right now because I got lucky last week and got the Entrail Disgorger from the timewalking raid, but I also got lucky and got the heroic hungering Victory dagger from Voidspire, and I'm trying to decide which to use crests on:
Real first world problems over here
golden loom
Whats your main hand?
mellow oriole
golden loom
Cause upgrading one will let you upgrade the other one for free with a 285 mainhand
mellow oriole
oh right! I forgot about that
golden loom
But I wouldnt say its even worth the gold of enchanting the 2nd one
analog hedge
Cause upgrading one will let you upgrade the other one for free with a 285 mainh...
huh
i also have crafted 285
but i still have to pay for my 2nd dagger (hero and myth)
golden loom
Yeah myth you would have to use crests on to upgrade
He had 2 heroic daggers tho
So first one would cost, 2nd one would not
real pike
You’re slamming
ahh ok maybe that's my issue I'm trying to play it like we did in DF
prob just need to press more buttons
warped lily
any projected talent changes with the garrote/rup buff?
real pike
is this reasonable for a pit 10?
warped lily
is this reasonable for a pit 10?
looks good to me, i range from 125-150 depending on the tank
real pike
prot pal is crazy dam
warped lily
ye
crude helm
Any knows if bleeds tick across phases in Chimerus?
analog field
Any knows if bleeds tick across phases in Chimerus?
just cast one while he is flying away 😛
crude helm
i mean like the soak phases
analog field
ah this should work surely
clear ingot
analog field
just lost the mythic one 🙁
analog hedge
please tell me its lfr
crude helm
ex: I bleed mobs, the shield breaks and the upstairs ppl are supposed to hit them
clear ingot
its champ 😂
analog hedge
aayyy still good
clear ingot
not bad
clear ingot
lowkey so nerve wrecking
severe meadow
clear ingot
i early rolled and saw my name fly up
analog field
We haven’t seen it drop in mythic yet
1/1
analog hedge
LOL
clear ingot
and it's just such an awful feeling watchin them all fly in for it lol
waxen oyster
we had 2 drop first week only
is it that much stronger than plume
it got nerfed iirc
severe meadow
Honestly not sure, pretty sure it’s still really strong
It outsims every trinket I’ve gotten so far
clear ingot
pretty sure its the best trinket in the game for aoe still
severe meadow
At normal
waxen oyster
Yeah it is strong but i dont think its gamebreakingly strong?
clear ingot
and still 2nd best for single target
severe meadow
Pre nerfs maybe
clear ingot
I mean the top 2 is still pretty solid in stone
waxen oyster
only hero trinkets beating voidstorm on sim were plume and gaze
severe meadow
I mean but not game breaking op
clear ingot
but there are a couple of trinkets not that far behind
weary stump
We gaze upon it
analog hedge
jesus christ, mythic gaze
clear ingot
holy shit
analog hedge
things i will do for it
half egret
what are people crafting as 3rd item?
zealous moth
probly weapon or a shit slot
neck / ring if you dont have ideal stats
but as per the usual response
sim yourself
tawny geyser
!ui
prisma monolithBOT
Resources:
- ArcUI - Common UI Replacement
BetterCDM - Enhancements to the Cooldown Manager - MSUF - Common Unit Frame replacement
- Platynator - Recommended Nameplate Addon (Plater is not recommended)
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(Whispyr's Profile)
Misc: - Clickable Raid Buffs - Poison Reminder
- WilduTools - random QoL like melee range indicator and cursor replacement
chilly marsh
did they fix the implacable tracker?
zealous moth
not likely
someone was asking about that a couple minutes ago
id asume they didnt
loud kelp
need help with CDM, its showing garrote cd not timer of the dot
zealous moth
im ngl
chilly marsh
tehy will rework and remove this skill before fixing the tracker....
zealous moth
i didnt touch anything from default and it shows duration for me
loud kelp
using cdm? or arcui?
gilded oasis
cooked
gilded oasis
zealous moth
Reminds me of last tier
gilded oasis
zealous moth
This guild i was trialing with wanted me to take wound for saladbar because "he was healing to much"
frosty cedar
huh
zealous moth
One pull in, rl said "look at that wound poison value"
(i had forgotten to put on wound poison)
waxen oyster
did your RL realize
gilded oasis
lmfao
waxen oyster
hunter pet has ms
zealous moth
I didnt even use it lmao
spice spire
Most do
earnest remnant
ill find u
spice spire
dont you fcking dare press thow knife
Tell that fraud raccoon man
pine flare
Am I griefing in keys when I have crippling poison on? Sometimes tank gather is disrupted because the mobs are slowed
gilded oasis
dont you fcking dare press thow knife
I told him Id rather waddle my fat ass over there
crystal nymph
how can i see number of applications of garrote and rupture?
spice spire
Am I griefing in keys when I have crippling poison on? Sometimes tank gather is ...
Nah it’s workable with it on
zealous moth
how can i see number of applications of garrote and rupture?
Cast count maybe?
Or you mean how many you have active?
gilded oasis
Am I griefing in keys when I have crippling poison on? Sometimes tank gather is ...
nah tell them to man up. You can also delay openeing if you want to gather but I just make them deal with it (miss you sanguine)
crystal nymph
Or you mean how many you have active?
yeah for m+
spice spire
Tank aggro is pretty fine except for bear (apparently?)
zealous moth
yeah for m+
I just eyeball it
crystal nymph
hmm
gilded oasis
brother i can only count to 2
night delta
brother i can only count to 2
I can only count to 4
zealous moth
brother i can only count to 2
Fancy pants ms highschool here flexing on us
spice spire
brother i can only count to 2
That’s a lie we have 7 combo points
gilded oasis
I can only count to 4
yeah I was trying to type 4 and just couldnt find it so I gave up
spice spire
Fancy pants ms highschool here flexing on us
Ms
gilded oasis
That’s a lie we have 7 combo points
Im not counting those. round dots full? hit envenom
zealous moth
Based
spice spire
Im not counting those. round dots full? hit envenom
Marriage changed u queen
gilded oasis
round dots not full? hit mutilate
spice spire
Damn
frosty cedar
i am not having a fun time on vanguard fight
gilded oasis
I one button tanked a TW last week, I was huge
frosty cedar
this blows
spice spire
Real I don’t and I still don’t have aggro issues unless they pull from timbukthree
frosty cedar
how many fkin melee are u bringing
gilded oasis
all of them
coral ibex
waxen oyster
i enjoy sitting on the bench and watching my warlocks screams in comms
about their debuff transfers to the pacify guy
earnest remnant
tell that DK to piss off to the ranged soak
gilded oasis
true
earnest remnant
he is like half ranged anyway
coral ibex
he's a tank
gilded oasis
go tank from the ranged soak
earnest remnant
WW
waxen oyster
oh those exist
earnest remnant
enhance
waxen oyster
you right
coral ibex
well i told them rogue was stinky on paladins so now they think my uptime doesn't matter
earnest remnant
how do you build maelst
golden loom
well i told them rogue was stinky on paladins so now they think my uptime doesn'...
Bleeds are uptime silly!!
frosty cedar
you have the most cooked comp
earnest remnant
cant hit stormstrike/lavalash = no resource gen = no lightning
night delta
cant hit stormstrike/lavalash = no resource gen = no lightning
I mean yeah
coral ibex
you have the most cooked comp
yea we had another hunter but he left the guild to get sat on dragons and get to paladins at the same time as us
night delta
that's why they said half melee
waxen oyster
they're not as half as ret or dk
earnest remnant
- they dont play ascendance now
waxen oyster
does dk run clawing shadows still
earnest remnant
so only their spenders are ranged
royal lantern
Am I griefing in keys when I have crippling poison on? Sometimes tank gather is ...
nah, half the classes slow stuff by default anyway lol
golden loom
does dk run clawing shadows still
Yeah
golden loom
Melee swings and soulreaper maybe
night delta
Ok what about dk isnt ranged rn
obliterate
coral ibex
dont they care about melee swings in some way
night delta
(lolfrost)
waxen oyster
obliterate
frost is for boomers trying to rp arthas
golden loom
Putrify
zealous moth
it kills you irl
golden loom
Its just epidemic/coil during cds
coral ibex
ok i asked to swap with the other ret but theyll prob just say nah just do your best
runic hinge
Real I don’t and I still don’t have aggro issues unless they pull from timbukthr...
yeah ok
golden loom
they got some weird new ability called graveyard
You only press it during like 7-8 target tho
potent jetty
should i deathmark + kingsbane and them CT? or CT CT and Mark+bane after?
spice surge
It does not matter
Deathmark only increases damage done by bleed to the target, not any targets you cleave the bleeds to
zealous moth
should i deathmark + kingsbane and them CT? or CT CT and Mark+bane after?
same dif
ct only replaces FoK when you need to spread bleeds
it varies depending on the pull
shadow agate
Where are we popping puzzle box in opener?
zealous moth
just before dm
safe barn
are the talents updated in faq
zealous moth
garrote should be updating correctly now
shadow agate
I'm both glad and sad to have gotten it, I just hate the on use so much.
spice spire
Sit down lil gup
zealous moth
I'm both glad and sad to have gotten it, I just hate the on use so much.
same
also i realized a couple days ago
ruby bolt
its not really that bad
zealous moth
why the desync was happening on m+
burnt ember
I straight up think death mark doesn’t fit with the design of the modern game, especially with how much we’re pulling big and how little of the time we’re actually benefited by targeting one specific thing. It’s okay in raids but like… it feels so bad everywhere else. Even if it does great DPS, it’s just so annoying to play around it drives me crazy. I just read the .5 updates, got upset, and had nowhere else to post it LOL.
zealous moth
why the desync was happening on m+
between DM and the trinket
coral ibex
I straight up think death mark doesn’t fit with the design of the modern game, e...
wym doesnt fit, "cooldown that is both ST and AOE and helps you cleave" is the ethos for most specs in the game
mellow oriole
I straight up think death mark doesn’t fit with the design of the modern game, e...
Yeah I wanted to ask what other people do about this? If DM is off cooldown, it feels bad to hold it, but it also feels bad to throw it on a random mob that will die real fast anyway. Is the answer just to try to find the highest prio target and dumb DM no matter what?
zealous moth
Yeah I wanted to ask what other people do about this? If DM is off cooldown, it ...
yes
i mean you always line it up with kb
burnt ember
wym doesnt fit, "cooldown that is both ST and AOE and helps you cleave" is the e...
The problem is that it encourages you to focus on a single target which in 70% of the game content is not relevant and not happening.
zealous moth
and vanish for improved garrote if specced
you´re not just dry sending DM without anything else
tacit otter
The problem is that it encourages you to focus on a single target which in 70% o...
its super relevant in high keys?