assassination

[twilit python]

idk how but my guild just pulled out 2 geared hunters out of its ass

i think we underestimated the damage check so tried to play rogue n shit for atrophic

but man that shit is ASS

so is boomkin

this is actually one of the worst fights ive progged i think lmfao no shot its just hunters and augs

[balmy condor]

My guild didn’t get alleria week 1 and I was actually screaming at people

Anyone can top the meters when you got bad players in the group

But it would be way less fun to struggle on heroic

[stuck lodge]

I'm out here at 271 with two crafted mythic pieces and feeling great

[balmy condor]

I’m glad

[fallow canopy]

We decided to split chimmy mythic this week and lets just say group 2 had a traumatic experience there

[stuck lodge]

Do I wish we were clearing H and starting mythic? Yeah, but the people are nice and chill so its whatever

[balmy condor]

Yeah that just doesn’t work for people man

[stuck lodge]

When you get that high they might make me like switch to sub or something

and I dont wanna do that

[balmy condor]

I mean

Those guilds are also shit

[twilit python]

bro i started off progging as assa, did no damage so i swapped to sub

still did no damage and i got hit with the "yo can you swap back"

[balmy condor]

The real “high end” or whatever

Doesn’t micromanage

Because you’re the fucking rogue player

And you’re supposed to play to the best of your ability

If my warlock guild leader tells me what spec to play I’m gquitting on the spot

Fuck him

[stuck lodge]

Yeah, as of right now I am the only rogue on my raid team, and I don't bring much but I do the whole shroud before pull thing

[balmy condor]

But he understands that I know what I’m doing

[twilit python]

LMFAO

[balmy condor]

And so if I say hey I’m hitting boss, I’m hitting boss

And he goes yeah makes sense

[twilit python]

nah bro that was actually the most value i was bringing the prepull shroud

[jolly stirrup]

We had 2 rogues in our guild. Me and another. I was Assa, he was sub. Guess who got benched

[stuck lodge]

That's what I have started doing too lol Saladbar? I'm not kicking, I'm not switching to orbs

[jolly stirrup]

That's right, not me

[balmy condor]

I… respectfully think I’m playing a different game

[stuck lodge]

I mean... I do decent dmg too lol

usually top for the team

[balmy condor]

Yes

[stuck lodge]

but in terms of utility and such

[balmy condor]

But there are levels to this

And I think there’s a certain disconnect

[haughty flicker]

whispyr trying to respectfully tell timmy hes dogshit

[balmy condor]

That cannot be understood

I don’t think he’s dogshit

He’s capable

[stuck lodge]

I'ma need him to be less respectful

and tell me exactly what he means

[balmy condor]

But I think everyone else he’s playing with sounds insanely dogshit

And so like

His worldview doesn’t really hold any weight

[haughty flicker]

whispyr is closer to lebron than we are to him

[stuck lodge]

That's like.. probably true in terms of high end competitive wow

[balmy condor]

Like if I go into LFR and top meters

Does it matter?

I could queue heroic dungeons

[stuck lodge]

No yeah I get that for sure

[jolly stirrup]

Aren't raids supposed to be high end, end game content?

[stuck lodge]

but thats mostly a personal thing

[balmy condor]

It for sure is

[stuck lodge]

Like, I'm trying to be the best I can be within the guild

and my parses are good for H

[balmy condor]

I think you could do a lot better is the thing

not like as a personal improvement

but like stepping up guilds

[stuck lodge]

Well, yeah probably, if I joined a different guild

[balmy condor]

there's a deep world out there

[primal parrot]

never settle for the best

[balmy condor]

but as long as you're happy

[stuck lodge]

but I like where I am at

[balmy condor]

then god bless ya know

yeah

that's what matters

[stuck lodge]

Maybe I'll try to pug mythic dreamrift or something

(but in terms of utility I mean we just bring the poison and shroud right?)

[balmy condor]

I wouldn't even really count shroud, but in terms of concrete reasons to be slotted into a raid, yes

[stuck lodge]

Yeah I mean the prepull shroud is definitely a meme lol

[balmy condor]

but like on chimaerus there's adds on mythic that have really fast casts that fear

and rogue is actually like really good for that

[haughty flicker]

kidney op

[balmy condor]

kidney does insane work on that

[stuck lodge]

but if I spend CP on kidney

less cp for dmg

[balmy condor]

mobility in general on rogue is really high

[stuck lodge]

yeah double shadowstep helps

[balmy condor]

yeah but you get to also clear the fight

[stuck lodge]

at what cost whispyr

at what cost

[balmy condor]

not much

[severe meadow]

At some point you just gotta shrug the parse stuff off and just kill bosses

Raid is filled with shit pad

[stuck lodge]

While I have you two here, how are you opening on M+ packs? I feel like I'm doing it wrong

I have puzzle box

[haughty flicker]

i press tentacle slam twice

then go into cds

maybe prespread some vt if its a big pack

[storm forum]

I love pressing 15 sec CD 20% power shadow word madness

[stuck lodge]

so I typically like, impg, fok, rupture, CT (mayb 2x) envenom, then puzzlebox, dm, kb, vanish, impg, envenom, then try to spread with CT and go into normal combo but it feels clunky

[storm forum]

Reading that makes me wanna do the opening pull of AA so bad

[stuck lodge]

It just feels so bad because I am pressing so many buttons before I spread stuff

[flint raptor]

sounds good 😛

[storm forum]

It's nice on AA cause you tricks and do ur opener/set up while the packs still getting gathered and you really don't miss anything. But yeah sometimes it's just a normal pull and meh, occupational hazard of playing a spec with long set up time, especially now that people have 270+ ilvl and trash in 10s just fucking explode.

[stuck lodge]

yeah especially when they lust on pull and I am just finishing my set up and the baby adds are dying

[coral ibex]

bros playing the wrong spec

[storm forum]

Surely when we get sick of the seasonal affixes and only spam 12s trash will live more than 30 seconds right?

[fallow canopy]

We'll have more gear and it will explode anyway

[stuck lodge]

I need to hit 3k before I can spam 10's or 12s

right now its hit or miss to get an inv

[storm forum]

I basically only play with guildies/friends these days

[stuck lodge]

thats definitely the best way to do it

[storm forum]

Puging as dps without utility sucks so bad

[stuck lodge]

yeah, which is why you gotta beat the IO/ilvl curve

if you wanna/need to do that

[storm forum]

I'm playing too much priest this tier so my rogue is behind on crests so I've got like 2 myth pieces and 3 champ pieces sitting unupgradeable so I'm legit 10 ilvls behind my guildies I'm so upset I can't just grind m+ cause busy irl last week/this week fml

[primal parrot]

pugs will in general not recognize anything besides the general stuff
they wont look at you beyond your spec's place in the current (perceived) meta and/or what raid buffs you bring

and of course how good of a player you are based on your current achievements during the current season (CE, m+ score, pvp rating etc)

[buoyant herald]

what is this RWF comp, do i see TWO ele shams and an assassination rogue?

did liquid not check warcraftlogs.com

[primal parrot]

sin rogue on belo'ren?

[haughty flicker]

exile is there to press cloak

lol

[primal parrot]

the boss resurrects multiple times right?

[haughty flicker]

he was playing sub earlier

[storm forum]

We get to have cloak assigned? Yippee

[haughty flicker]

i guess he swapped yeah

execute stonks

[storm forum]

When was the last time that happened?

[buoyant herald]

yeah he was, but switching to assa was enough to finally tip me over the edge into shitposting

[ashen scroll]

immediately swapped to sub bc he said sin did zdps to egg

gg

[buoyant herald]

ah so my timing was perfect 😎

[haughty flicker]

he looked at wcl

[storm forum]

I can't wait to do zdps to eggs

[primal parrot]

fellas is sin dogzhit?

[jolly stirrup]

No

Ah context

Yes

[twilit python]

thank god paladins dead

horrible boss

[jolly stirrup]

Up next for us are rekills for Imperator and Vorasius, then we prog Saladbar. I don't wanna kill him because then it's dragons. And that boss was already horrible in HC

[jolly stirrup]

Wonderful image

[solar wyvern]

MAN WHO COULD THAT BE

[vestal wren]

fixed it for you

paladins on sub is

[ashen scroll]

LMFAO

im playing pally on sin but sub/sin no diff

getting gapped by everyone

playing sin on pally*

[vestal wren]

rogue in general isn't rly doing well on the fight

its unforch that blizz decided to balance things by heavily nerfing subtleties cleave damage in the first week of the raid

because it fights for the last place on the fight now

[primal parrot]

we're not getting another tuning pass
........are we?

[analog hedge]

the more i look at the sin tier the more im wondering, does 10 energy reduction from garrote even matter

💀

why not 10 energy off muti or fok

[primal parrot]

y not both

[twilit python]

I just actually can’t believe how turbo down bad rogues are and blizzard just doesn’t care lol

Like hunters unironically do 100k more dps than any rogue spec on paladins btw

That’s not a joke btw

[primal parrot]

sub busted beyond belief in pvp but apparently tuning for pve is out of the question

there's barely any representation of sin in RIO ladder either besides a few unique cases

in comparison to sub and outlaw*
just to be specific

[twilit python]

Rogue just feels so sad

[grim jay]

Yknow paladins isnt the whole raid

All in all, there still is one rogue spec overall middle of the pack

And on boss damage alone, one even is high up there

Not every class can be at the top all the time

[twilit python]

Bro I swear the only reason Assa boss damage is so high is because you just ignore the adds on all the bosses lmao

[golden loom]

assa op on chimaerus 🔥

killing boss is the important part

[twilit python]

Like you get gapped by real classes in st too

[golden loom]

padding on adds is cringe!

[twilit python]

Ele shamans

I do agree though way too much padding classes

Like I honestly hate these disgusting padders too

[buoyant herald]

Fun part is some specs can’t even help it

[primal parrot]

surely they could do something about us not taking sudden demise
or maybe move the rupture % talent away from being literally beneath amp poison

[balmy condor]

good spec

[golden loom]

was third on damage even tho I did this, thoughts? @balmy condor

[balmy condor]

[golden loom]

gambled on boss living here tho and only sent KB so I would have pot for execute dm

and it did live

I guess I should just stay on boss for the 2nd KB but idk

that final DM did do work though and I even kinda fumbled my vanish garrote and did it like 6 globals late

didnt press vanish

[grim jay]

Idk it depends on the adds for me. "padding" gets thrown around lightly and way too much, even to the point its aggravating. Stuff needs to die at the end of the day, but things like the adds on dragons are kinda meh

[boreal lichen]

I see some high mythic+ assa rogues playing with 1/2 fatal concoction instead of secondary poisoning. And canny strikes instead of internal bleeding. Is there a notable dif between those talents ?

[balmy condor]

no

[grim jay]

There are high sin rogues in m+?

Maybe high as in smoked some

[twilit python]

I dislike little shitter adds

Like the ones in most of this raid

Like why does a thousand 1 million hp adds spawn on dragons

If you like that fight you’re just a padder idk you can’t convince me otherwise

[grim jay]

I think adds like on the 2nd Boss are kinda cool. They should have less health tho, so they just instantly explode at the wrong spot if you arent careful

Same as adds on first boss, thats also fine

[jolly stirrup]

Do we send combatpot on Pull or during CDs? I feel like there is enough time of pot left if we send at pull

[golden loom]

why waste pot on globals that do nothing

you are just setting up bleeds envenom and puzzlebox in the opener

[grim jay]

Just macro it to DM

[jolly stirrup]

Mhm

[elfin flame]

[runic hinge]

[tight ginkgo]

[zinc frost]

[kindred imp]

!ui

[prisma monolith]

Resources:

• ArcUI - Common UI Replacement
  BetterCDM - Enhancements to the Cooldown Manager
• MSUF - Common Unit Frame replacement
• Platynator - Recommended Nameplate Addon (Plater is not recommended)
  (Jundies Profile)
  (Whispyr's Profile)
  Misc:
• Clickable Raid Buffs - Poison Reminder
• WilduTools - random QoL like melee range indicator and cursor replacement

[kindred imp]

Implacable tracking still bugged? Does ArcUI or Ayije CDM help track ing properly?

[strange onyx]

Bugged

[kindred imp]

but bugged on bliz API side so everything using it will be bugged or bugged just for them and using ArcUI or someting works? :?

[balmy condor]

bugged by blizzard yes

I think someone had a workaround with arcui or something where it just did a custom counter to 5 and then reset

but it seemed insanely janky

[kindred imp]

ye would be. cool thx. Will....keep looking up into the sea of buffs for my 80 stack 😄 thx

[strange onyx]

I honestly think you are fine just not overthinking Implacable

[balmy condor]

yeh

[strange onyx]

Not like implacable is the difference between a grey log and an orange one

How did reclear go @balmy condor ?

[balmy condor]

got back to salad

no dagger from vora

took it from vault

[strange onyx]

Blessed

[glossy root]

Hi guys
Feels like i suck with assa rogue (my raid logs sucks but i was undergeared as fuck but now i got pretty nice gear and still sucks in m+ so im def bad)
I got a dps pal friend with 271 ilvl and overall good stats and gear, im 267 with decent stats and gear but in boss fight in +10/11, when he have 80/90k dps, i've only like 60 to 70k :(
I dont really know what i do wrong, i refresh my bleed, good talents, use my algethar box+deathmark+kingsbane+vanish at the right time (BL or boss weakened by his own mechanic), otherwise just spam mutilate envenom mutilate envenom + refresh bleed
am i this bad ?

[strange onyx]

Does your friend get two sets of cooldowns in one boss fight in 10s? How’s your overall?

[jolly stirrup]

Our ST in M+ was never good

[strange onyx]

There is so many factors to consider

[jolly stirrup]

Its better now than before

[grim jay]

Ye

But still bad

[jolly stirrup]

True

[brave gyro]

What are the recommendations for 3rd craft? (i have dagger and boots atm)

or just fill gear

[sacred schooner]

any good platynator profiles? 🙂

[balmy condor]

rings/necks are okay generally, mostly just whatever gear sucks, you can run a droptimizer

[strange onyx]

Whatever makes you happy

[balmy condor]

!ui

[prisma monolith]

Resources:

• ArcUI - Common UI Replacement
  BetterCDM - Enhancements to the Cooldown Manager
• MSUF - Common Unit Frame replacement
• Platynator - Recommended Nameplate Addon (Plater is not recommended)
  (Jundies Profile)
  (Whispyr's Profile)
  Misc:
• Clickable Raid Buffs - Poison Reminder
• WilduTools - random QoL like melee range indicator and cursor replacement

[strange onyx]

Not off hand

[brave gyro]

Yeah, still on Veteran neck, so probably that

[balmy condor]

offhand actually ain't half bad

we attack so fucking fast now

[brave gyro]

not sure if i should send crit/haste though, since i bounce between all 3 specs

[strange onyx]

Already has his off hand made, when he gets dagger from 2nd boss 🧠

[grim jay]

Is your profile based on jundies or did you do one entirely from scratch?

[balmy condor]

nbx gave me the base

I tweaked it a little

[grim jay]

There is also a heroic neck through the pvp 4 part quests

[brave gyro]

But pvp

[grim jay]

Gonna check it out tomorrow, appreciate the effort

[grim jay]

Doesnt take long tbh

Its like 4 bgs

[glossy root]

I dont remember the exact value but im always like ~80% of his dps in the overall

[brave gyro]

I don't even know if its bad, last time i did pvp was like MoP

[grim jay]

You wont have much impact

Unless its a flag carrier bg

Just be there

[brave gyro]

xD

But Mr. Miyagi said the opposite

[sacred schooner]

thanks

[strange onyx]

You can solo win base maps

[brave gyro]

alternatively, i just spam PoS keys for that spiky neck

[grim jay]

Idk what that Mikado guy said, but sin chat always speaks the truth

[strange onyx]

Nothing warms my heart like someone base defending on top of the flag

[strange onyx]

This is true

[grim jay]

That will definitely take longer

Unless you get it first or 2nd try

But we all know how it goes

[jolly stirrup]

I spent 2 whole days in AA for that damn trinket

[brave gyro]

3 weeks full clears (LFR/NM/HC), 0 tier pieces dropped, all from vault/cata

[grim jay]

I have 4p on 3 chars currently

[brave gyro]

i got 4 set faster on my alt warlock that i only do delves on

[grim jay]

On the 4th one, there are people just rolling on the token refusing to get their 2k spark

Its wild

Couldve had it there aswell

[brave gyro]

Yeah, im solo this expansion, so I'm having a bit of an identity crisis, not sure what to do. I've cleared everything HC, minus Mid Falls, last week i did mythic void first boss and failed with Chim with like 3 different groups under 15%. M+ takes super long, and I see all 3 specs being played in high keys, and I don't know if should jack-off all trades or commit to one spec

[jolly stirrup]

Play whats most fun for you

In the end: it's a video game. It's meant to be FUN

[brave gyro]

I know you're right, it's just difficult sometimes

[subtle tundra]

the specs arent hard enough that you need to specialize to a single one

just play around with them

[normal mist]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1314276518192742430/1482099296286408715/funybird.gif

[brave gyro]

more about gearing and stuff

[strange onyx]

Are you EU?

[brave gyro]

Hi @normal mist

[subtle tundra]

your only argument is outlaw weapon

which is ok, good argument but 276 is good enough to play around with

so its not a real argument

you dont need perfect stats

[normal mist]

I told him that but he doesn't care about me

[subtle tundra]

people love inventing problems

what can ya do

[normal mist]

Rawr back maybe

[brave gyro]

https://giphy.com/gifs/stare-cooked-master-shifu-dwzbqcZT2IubAR6oRg

[normal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/mutsuki-bluearchive-gif-27128372

Afaik the only min max needed is for sub to have 18% haste after buffs/consumables

No idea of outlaw still needs haste cap too

[glossy root]

Yup

[strange onyx]

Can run a 10 with you and log it so it easier to compare

[sharp viper]

rawr xD :3

[glossy root]

We can do that, i got a pit of saron 10, sounds good for ya ?

[strange onyx]

Yeye

Give me like 15 min making breakfast atm

[glossy root]

Same lol

[strange onyx]

DMed my btag

[glossy root]

Maybe even a lil bit more for me, still up around noon ?

[jolly stirrup]

[strange onyx]

yeye

[sharp viper]

does twilight barrage scale with ilvl of the rings?

[keen raven]

In a 3 target rotation with full cds whats the optimal rotation opener?

[balmy condor]

same as st but you replace your generators with one CT to spread and fok for cp

[keen raven]

so just garrote, ct, rupture, puzzle vanish garrote deathmark, ct kingsbane basically

[normal mist]

That would only spread garrote, no?

[balmy condor]

garrote fok rupture fok envenom puzzle vanish garrote dm kingsbane envenom ct

st is garrote mut rupture mut envenom puzzle vanish garrote dm kingsbane envenom

[normal mist]

Oh that's a CT in the end got it nvm

[plucky ember]

hmm i dont know what to craft

i got my dagger

wrists

[normal mist]

Ring wrist neck back

So many options

[plucky ember]

allmost a song right there

[normal mist]

I'd personally go for ring

Because if your next vault has a ring myth, you didn't lose a slot

[plucky ember]

wish i didnt fuck up with my wrists and made the row ones..........i didnt trust the consensus on the web

[keen raven]

is it really better to fok over ct and lose a couple globals of empowered garrote in that opener?

[balmy condor]

yeh CT is giga expensive and you're not spreading rupture

so you're just

not doing anything with that CT

[keen raven]

ah okay

ah 35 vs 60

i see

been a minute since i touched asa

[ashen scroll]

i stopped CTing the orbs on dragons boss unless i had tea charges bc i oomed so fast

just fok envenom, worked out well

boss dmg and caustic

[sacred wadi]

hey there on wowhead it says sudden demise is strong on "low-end" dungeons and im not sure what that means^^ its good on low keys? and does anyone have an example build with sudden demise skilled?

[balmy condor]

yeah, in higher keys the sudden demise damage is just worthless, but if you're doing like a +5 or some shit where everything explodes it can be okay

you'd play something like this

well, with cold blood

but it's not really an exact science

you just kinda do whatever

[sacred wadi]

thank you appreciate it

what poisons will i use without dragon temper? 😄 deadly or amplifying^^

[balmy condor]

well you don't talent amplifying

so that makes it hard

[sacred wadi]

ah damn xD

[old obsidian]

why people dont do Belo'ren hero?

only 15%?

15*

_>

[severe meadow]

I think there’s more than 15

[old obsidian]

Seven hours ago, when we killed him, there were at least 15 registered pharses, public?

The funny thing is that my mage partner and I were super happy, in a try very similar to the kill we were close to 100 and when we killed him we both topped and got grays hahahahaha it was wtf

[normal mist]

Wdym?

[old obsidian]

In the previous attempts before the kill, one where we left the egg at less than 1%, we had almost 100 pharsets, and in the kill, which was very similar, we got grays >_>

[plucky ember]

i thought the 2set bonus looked good, but it apperently isnt

[normal mist]

It would be if you could have more than 2 embellishment pieces

But afaik you want your dagger embellished

[plucky ember]

ye

[normal mist]

If you created one of those set pieces then yeah you kinda wasted 2 sparks

Where did you get your information from?

[plucky ember]

https://tenor.com/view/space-kitten-galaxy-cat-spinning-gif-4189462356090573795

[balmy condor]

Wipe parses are kinda notoriously inaccurate just as an aside

They hallucinate like hell

[sharp viper]

embellishments are poop anyways, only stats from ilvl have a real impact, so dont feel too bad, in two weeks you can get a different craft

[grim jay]

Its always heartwarming to see the fellow sins supporting people that made terrible choices

We should all just enjoy the game

[grim jay]

What if they are actually right and everything else is fake?

I always like the "if we didnt wipe, it wouldve been a 100" people

[strange onyx]

Hello

[strange onyx]

Its to encourage people to keep pulling and not get demotivated

someone hook your boi up with some bracers

[hearty seal]

that's boots you're missing

[frosty cedar]

god damnit which of you took my salhadaar

[grim jay]

But he is the loa of misinformation

So it checks out

[hearty seal]

misinformation is only that if you yourself have the correct information
otherwise it's just random bullshit

[grim jay]

But he obviously does have the correct information

He even provided it in form of the screenshot

[night iris]

On +10s do you run more ST talents?

[grim jay]

You run the wowhead recommended talents

[night iris]

Okay no change then

[forest mountain]

is there somewhere we can see how assass is simming for M+? Just curious about numbers etc.

[grim jay]

The number is entirely useless for "just checking numbers"

Dungeonslice, or sims in general for that matter, are only for talent/gear choices

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[grim jay]

There is the sheet

[half igloo]

I'm people

[grim jay]

Hi people.

[lucid kite]

oi oi, do people know if i change an Ilvl 272 with the catalyst if I get the hero tier look or mythic?

[balmy condor]

It’s based on the track you put in

Myth track in gives mythic appearance, etc

[lucid kite]

i changed a hero track ilvl 276 head and gloves

and both got the mythic variant look

[spice surge]

Ye maxxed hero is higher than myth 1

So you get the myth appearance

[lucid kite]

yeah but the piece is still marked "hero"

[spice surge]

Yes

[balmy condor]

Yeh but the ilvl is myth

Technically

Cause there’s overlap

[lucid kite]

isnt 272 also mythic ilvl? 1/6

just wondering what the breakpoint is haha

[balmy condor]

Last 2 hero is myth track yes

[spice surge]

Yes

[balmy condor]

Hero 5/6 is myth 1/6

[lucid kite]

dont want all mythic look and the shoulder be a hero look haha

[balmy condor]

Farm m+ and cata those

They’d be 3/6 hero

[lucid kite]

I have a 272 shoulder piece

and I am out of hero crests and capped for the week

[balmy condor]

Yeah but you want the hero appearance, no?

[lucid kite]

no the myth appearance pref

just wondering if 272 will do it

[balmy condor]

Yes

[lucid kite]

or if i get the hero look hhaha

[balmy condor]

272 is myth 1/6

[lucid carbon]

Any of you guys really good with logs and wouldn't mind helping me out?

Got told I'm really underperforming but I'm not sure where to improve other than to get more gear.

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/YKjGcr4gk7HywZ3f

[night iris]

Do I craft a hero crest weapon If I don't have myth crests yet?

[lucid kite]

sure, you can recraft but would rather not, just farm the myth crests?

[normal mist]

If you don't mind wasting time sure

[night iris]

Not good enough on rogue to do the 9s or delve 11s I think

[hearty seal]

honestly most of your raid is worse lmao

[normal mist]

Time and resources

[golden loom]

pretty low ilvl so "parsing" so no matter what you arent gonna giga parse, random side note - shadowmeld garrote does nothing 😄

[ashen scroll]

you were given performance feedback in a 5/9H guild? bro that's CRAZY. I dont think you're performing bad for this level. You died twice (cheated 6) on first 3 deaths which is on the upper end of deaths for the rest of the raiders but your damage is solid for being 255

[lucid carbon]

Ooo, that was the only reason I rolled a Nelf. I'll go back to an aesthetic I like, not sure why I never verified that it worked

[plain thistle]

well, its really good for dungeons at least

[hearty seal]

ok let's see
no add damage on Averzian tanks your DPS hard, but Assa just can't do shit there tbh

decent-ish on Vora which is almost a dummy

again decent on Salha, esp with your ilvl

[subtle tundra]

bruh youre 255

[lucid carbon]

Definitely stuffed up my spec on the first boss. I was building a spec and they pulled earlier than I expected

[subtle tundra]

tell them to lvoe themselves

[hearty seal]

and not terrible for dragons either

[subtle tundra]

yesssssssssssi got filtered ;3;3;3;;3;3

[ashen scroll]

they're in a 5/9H guild performance feedback shouldnt be given at all

[hearty seal]

basically - get more gear, get more conident with rotation, you're doing well

[golden loom]

on this holy day..

[latent kernel]

can you pre-cast puzzle box before starting m+?

[subtle tundra]

ask them to performance feedback the mm and fury

[hearty seal]

for maybe 3 seconds of uptime if you time it perfectly?

it's 20s buff bro

[latent kernel]

thank bro

[hearty seal]

legit that MM is lmao

[lucid carbon]

I normally take feedback constructively but there was a bit of an issue with an officer streaming so the constructive criticism turned into a bit of a public humiliation.

I do want to improve though. No other rogues in the guild and you guys will definitely know more than them

[tawny veldt]

No help with wowanalyzer or blood mallet for assassination rogues. Is this spec this ignored always? 🙂

[ashen scroll]

if i were you, i'd look for a new guild. That sounds like an awful place to be

[hearty seal]

in short - you're doing quite well, your gear might be suboptimal, your ilvl def is, and assa tuning overall is kinda shit

you're getting blue logs on bosses where assa can do something properly, so that's not bad at all

[sacred wadi]

hey ive run into a problem with tracking the apex talent with cooldown manager because when i let envenom run out and start applying new stacks to the talent its still only showing the increased energy regen... and then i have to luck at all buffs to track this. is there a workaround?

[lucid carbon]

I do need to get more consistent with my openers.

I kingsbaned before desthmark a few times

[ashen scroll]

one thing i'd change is envenom before you deathmark-KB. You really want KB to hit with the envenom debuff. Makes it ramp up faster

[lucid carbon]

I got told I didnt Envenom enough and that my rupture and Kimgsbane uptime was too low

[golden loom]

??

[ashen scroll]

you had 98+% garrote and rupture uptime on every kill

those people are nuts

[hearty seal]

how tf is that too low

you have it up for the entire fight on every fight

[crisp pine]

same

[ashen scroll]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/YKjGcr4gk7HywZ3f?fight=last&type=resources&source=4&spell=104

this shows your combo point usage throughout vaelgor. you should be spending on 5+. You spent on 3-4 quite a few times.

[hearty seal]

yeah no point to spend below 5

basically there's room to grow, but if you're getting "feedback" when you're performing better than most of your raid, while being on an objectively subpar spec - they can stuff it

[ashen scroll]

^

[lucid carbon]

I appreciate the support 🙏

Are my envenom casts low?

I got told I was casting it half as much as I should be.

I dont think they took raid size or fight length into account but I'm not super good at analysing logs

[tawny veldt]

I am lucky my guild supports me. The subrogue in my group is much more skilled and with purple ilvl parses doing like 80k when I am doing 54k around. Granted there’s 10 ilvls he has on me. But still feels bad.

[golden loom]

idk comparing my voracious to yours we both have 70 envenom casts, my fight was 30 sec shorter and I was 263 ilvl

idk who the fk looks at envenom casts as a metric

[hearty seal]

compared a similar length orange log on Averzian - nope, for that duration you have about as much as you should

[crisp pine]

you have to have atleast 100 envenom casts per fight to get into my raid sorry

[golden loom]

time to spam 1 combo point envenomns to impress my RL

[lucid carbon]

Haha yeah it felt that way. Quantity always better than quality

[ashen scroll]

i dont see any other rogues in your guild. Who on earth is critiquing your rogue gameplay?

[lucid carbon]

Not sure if they are a member of this discord or not so I'll keep that quiet

[ashen scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/out-disappear-bye-vanished-gif-4932063

[crisp pine]

lynch them

[red sail]

If the channel is in log review mode can anyone glance at this and try to help me find the damage I’m missing in a green ilvl parse

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/tTMD4myLbf6dAg9R?fight=35&type=damage-done

[golden loom]

dont look at ilvl parses

[hearty seal]

anyway just focus on fundamentals
you have good dot uptime, you seem to have a grasp on the rotation alright
just take care to only finisher with 5+ pts and optimize your opener somewhat, plus get better gear

[crisp pine]

157 ilvl parses lmao

[golden loom]

and I am saying this cause I got a 0 ilvl parse cause I was the highest ilvl assa thats done 2nd boss apparently

[ashen scroll]

vorasius is kinda cringe to parse. you gotta sit near the center during intermission and just dot-ct all the adds

[lucid carbon]

Thanks heaps, gives me something constructive to work on

[ashen scroll]

then go back to boss for your 1 min KB

[hearty seal]

ngl I hate the sheer fucking amount of mob padding this tier

[red sail]

Someone in my guild asked if I died in one of our kills bc I had a 0 ilvl parse lol

[hearty seal]

like every second boss has heaps of padding on adds

[ashen scroll]

ya it sucks balls

[red sail]

But it was like an 80 overall

[ashen scroll]

i dont like pad fights. But i parse them once just to prove i can do it

then just hit boss

[ashen scroll]

hey the pally doesnt have adds! (Rogue is the literal worst class on that boss)

[hearty seal]

every second boss being everything but salha (orbs barely count tbh) and pallies (constant 3 cleave which we suck at collectively)

[sharp viper]

https://tenor.com/view/dj-khaled-suffering-from-success-this-so-cute-what-a-lovely-morning-oh-ma-gad-gif-11233135040670052230

[crisp pine]

Do I sign up

[night iris]

How many crests does a +9 drop?

[plain thistle]

10 myth

[hearty seal]

like 10 I think

[plain thistle]

and after that its a +2 per key level

[night iris]

Crap so I have to do Nullaeus on ?? one delve on 11 and 4 +9s

[severe meadow]

You can group for Null

[night iris]

Yeah I just did

Did it solo on my mage, no way I am doing it on my rogue solo

[severe meadow]

Rogue can solo it :3

[night iris]

Every class should be able to no? but not rogue with my hands

[severe meadow]

You got soft hands

[night iris]

I have 4pc on my main, what actually drops the additional catalysts cause I have seen none

[ashen scroll]

any content

pvp, delves, m+, raid

[night iris]

Even lfr?

[ashen scroll]

yeah

i get one every like 20 keys

[delicate rampart]

how are u guys tracking garrote/rupture?

[robust pulsar]

Cooldown manager and platynator

[stuck knoll]

Orbs really don’t count this week my guilds warrior did like 70k dps just to the orbs not including boss dam

[dire smelt]

look above enemy healthbar

[lean aurora]

any solution how to properly track the buff for implacable? It bugs out via cdm ...

[spice surge]

Nop

Hope blizzard fixes it

But hey, atleast we wont get a WA boss like fracillus again

[hearty seal]

not sure about mythic, but on heroic Salha orbs just can't be really cleaved all that well on melee so you switch one ST to another

[stuck knoll]

Oh I meant mythic because it spawns a million little orbs on 1hp

[hearty seal]

yea ok that makes sense
damn, another cleave pad fight

smh

[stuck knoll]

This raid is ridden with them

[hearty seal]

is that the limit of their creativity now that WAs are dead

[stuck knoll]

Idk why they just decided to fill this raid with garbage adds on every fight I really dislike it

[nova aspen]

^

[spice surge]

And besides garbage adds its just spread 2/3 target cleave

[nova aspen]

apparently add management is fun, but i go to raid to fight the boss not his minions

[hearty seal]

like it's not really management much even
you just drag the adds away from the boss to a designated spot and burst them down

wow, such mechanics, are we back in TBC yet?

[nova aspen]

princess kyvezsa was amongst the coolest fights i've ever prog'd and it was no adds

[stuck knoll]

Got to actually come in on Chim this week and wow that shit fucking sucked

All the adds spawn opposite side of room surrounded in shite

And then walk past the suck people

So they died before I could even swap properly

[stuck knoll]

Rashok is still my favourite no add fight

[coral ibex]

we love spread cleave on shitters!!!

[stuck knoll]

It’s up there for my all time fights

[nova aspen]

yeah on top of spread cleave they give puddles for melee uptime to go in the shitter

i didnt get to prog rashok

[grim jay]

Unlucky

It was great

[humble verge]

ronkeboy

[arctic crown]

!race

[spice surge]

I really vibed with smolderon, but i know not everybody did

[arctic crown]

You guys know whats the best race for assa rogue?

[weary stump]

You know what was a really fun fight, sennarth

[spice surge]

If smolderon didnt have its amp at cringe timers, i think it wouldve been remembered very fondly

[weary stump]

Funny spider hill

[stuck knoll]

I also did I just wish he didn’t parry when you were forced to stand in front of him so much

Maybe it was just Fury warrior timers that fight

[grim jay]

Smolderon was one of the good ones that kinda got ruined by some people in my guild back then. Tends to get really frustrating if the orb soaks keep being an issue for the same 3 people

[hearty seal]

legit very ranged tier
"you don't understand they have to dodge aoes"
so do I, and my damage isn't tuned around 10% downtime unlike theirs

[stuck knoll]

But felt like every time I had big dammy I was standing in front getting parried

It feels like the most ranged tier I can remember since I got back into mythic raiding

[nova aspen]

i made a brew yesterday

at least tanks can stand in puddles and not care

[earnest remnant]

play sub problem solved

oh nvm

[stuck knoll]

I am

[earnest remnant]

i need to read

xD

[weary stump]

Just remember friends, you can't spell assassination without two butts

[runic hinge]

Bonkles rogue

[stuck knoll]

Indeedy

I am solo rogue for my guild this tier

[humble verge]

seems legit

[stuck knoll]

This demon class is unbeatable if it pulls big enough

[earnest remnant]

feral stomps it

[stuck knoll]

Every time I do first pull AA with my friend he doubles my damage

[cloud dune]

Your damage is tuned?
looks at outlaw

[stuck knoll]

I’m talking about guardian

[earnest remnant]

feral and destro does redic uncapped AoE

[stuck knoll]

Affliction also feels like it does fucking absurd aoe

It just does 0 boss damage

[runic hinge]

Feral feels so good in aoe. And it has a funnel talent

[hearty seal]

I mean
uh
drop A tuned lmao

[stuck knoll]

No longer is feral rogue but worse

Now rogue can be feral but worse

[runic hinge]

Tbh that just may be the case

Except feral is worse in raid I think

[cloud dune]

Remember when assa could funnel?

Good times

[runic hinge]

I mean you could play DS if you wanted to

[spice surge]

Idk bro in huge pulls the shadowpriests go absolutely wild

[nova aspen]

4th dps

[spice surge]

After this weeks patch when they got massively buffed for some reason

[runic hinge]

Just need a few more weeks of plink tuning and it’ll be fine

[spice surge]

Obviously they were doing silly big pulls, but when i watched exile do a pit 10 with sini (both liquid players with like 275+ ilvls) the spriests ended at 240k dps and the sub rogue at 200k

[stuck knoll]

I haven’t seen a priest in keys yet tbh but I’ve been doing most of my keys with guildies or friends atm

[runic hinge]

You saying spriests can’t be friends?

[severe meadow]

We don’t even have an spriest on the raid team xd

[stuck knoll]

Not with an Irish person

[analog hedge]

uuuh chat random question, at what tier does delves drop hero crest again

[coral ibex]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1488547832062415010/drop_fixed.png

[analog hedge]

thank you big man

[echo heath]

New Blizz class, Holy Irish Protestant

[analog hedge]

so tier 8 eh

aight

[forest mountain]

is implacable tracking still bugged, it seems intermittent unless there's an ICD I don't see mentioned?

[humble verge]

almost losing to dudu

it do be like that

[coral ibex]

in a 10??

[humble verge]

13

spire

[analog field]

13 seat

these fury warrios are really pumping

[subtle tundra]

think yall just bad

sorry but

not sorry

[crisp pine]

rude

[humble verge]

15 pit

[crisp pine]

the power of the sub rogue

[ashen scroll]

now perfecto's trying sin on the bird

[plain thistle]

we back

[spice surge]

Theyll be holding for hunter 2min cds anyway, so why play sub

When assa bursts higher

[ashen scroll]

exile was dancing at 1:30 and holding both supercharges and capping to 14 SHT to giga burst

[plain thistle]

why are they using rogue for that fight? is he soaking with cloak or something?

[spice surge]

Well it is not giga burst though

Its not Tww sub

He will be capping sht stacks 4 seconds into BL anyway

[ashen scroll]

exile tried sin for like 1 pull and said it was worse than sub on egg dmg

[spice surge]

Once they get the egg into execute i think assa will be atleast on par

[severe meadow]

He hold cds for egg?

[ashen scroll]

he holds on sub, it naturally lines up for sin

[severe meadow]

I need to watch some more today

Doing chores and getting new internet set up

[analog swan]

am i missing something to see what is best enchantment for me right now?

i just wana test enchantments

got it

[humble verge]

[crisp pine]

u r so cool and sexy

[humble verge]

we hate maisara

[analog swan]

not impressive cuz we all know its not pug

if it was pug you wouldnt be accepted above 12

🥀

[crisp pine]

Pug Experience

[analog swan]

Xd

[crisp pine]

I swear people only get like 3 different keys this season

[analog swan]

u got alot of filter for sure

[analog swan]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1242618399809474643/1289593160556613755/Surfing.gif

[humble verge]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HDuYGGwXUAEvDLe.gif

[analog swan]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/785776142371913768/1287995467942199428/output-onlinegiftools.gif

[worn geyser]

damn bro they killed bleed build with midnight that is so sad

[analog swan]

HUH?

[worn geyser]

the bleed build u ran in tww for keys was like pretty viable compared to the other sin build, idk was pretty fun imo

[normal mist]

Bleed was better for 99% of the rogue players

During last tww season

[frozen jasper]

i can go plume instead of puzzlebox right? i despise puzzlebox

[analog swan]

YOU WILL LEARN TO LOVE IT

[echo heath]

fuck puzzle box be your own man

[analog swan]

once u get the hang of it its like texting ur ex, u cant avoid doing it

[frozen jasper]

but its fucking clunky with the gcds and plume is higher ilvl - sims are close telling me to still use puzzle but i cant do it anymore

[stuck lodge]

Someone was posting in here yesterday with a sudden demise build that appeared to be cooking. Wapples? Or something

[jolly stirrup]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1488547832062415010/drop_fixed.png

[analog swan]

kinda crazy that it says im better with the ones i have equiped instead of rendorei

[stuck lodge]

It always comes up acuity for me

[analog swan]

@balmy condor thoughts?

i thought agility was supreme

[tight ginkgo]

300 dps

you're actually inting if you enchant double agi

crazy

[analog swan]

expected acuity to show +10000 or sm for me lol

since its agility

[crisp pine]

how much agility is it again

60?

[analog swan]

67

[crisp pine]

holy moly

[severe meadow]

Why are you pinging him for weapon enchant sims

[analog swan]

for his thoughts

[severe meadow]

on what

He's just going to tell you it depends on stats and what your gear is

[analog swan]

on why acuity isnt being recommended

[severe meadow]

Which is the whole point of the sim you posted

[analog swan]

i know that much but i expected 67 agility to be supreme vs secondary stats

[echo heath]

literally in the pins

[severe meadow]

Early into the expac, main stat is strong because of scaling

But secondaries just get stronger as we go

I use Acuity

Why? Because it sims better

that's your answer

[analog swan]

kinda crazy that mine doesnt sim better to me

[severe meadow]

I don't understand what you're not understanding

[analog swan]

maybe im lacking on haste too much for berserker to be over it

[analog swan]

hows urs looking like right now

if u dont mind sharing

[coral ibex]

it doesn't matter, there's no meaning to be derived from particular allocation of substats

[severe meadow]

I can share but like

Idk what you'd gain from it

[coral ibex]

if it sims better for you it sims better for you

its unlikely someone else has the exact same configuration of gear as you

[severe meadow]

I also don't re enchant my weapons for a 0.01% difference

[analog swan]

i know that, kinda obvious

[analog swan]

i dont know the soft breaking point on secondary stats so i wanted to see how much haste he has vs agility for his own sim to make agility enchant better, all towards his own evaluation

[coral ibex]

there's no soft breaking point

[severe meadow]

We don't have any soft breaks

As you gain more in a stat, it likely has diminishing returns

[fallow canopy]

there's no "breaking point" you just sim and that's it

[severe meadow]

In which other stats gain value

[fallow canopy]

stats are a game of whack a mole

[analog swan]

dont u get deminishing returns on a secondary stat after some ammount?

[severe meadow]

yes

[echo heath]

you're very much overthinking this

[fallow canopy]

ye

[coral ibex]

not on any amount you can currently obtain via gear

[severe meadow]

ye

[coral ibex]

i think even if you had big haste gear in every slot

you wouldn't hit haste dr this season

[stuck lodge]

you got a lot more mastery than I expected

[analog swan]

fellas, im answering questions but i really just wanted to see his stats. im following raidbot for myself

just curiosity

he got very little crit and it still didnt recommend him janalais precision, its interesting to me

[severe meadow]

prob bc of this goober I equipped yesterday

[stuck lodge]

oh... yeah thats not great lol

[severe meadow]

I mean it's fine

[stuck lodge]

but you gemmed it?

money money

[severe meadow]

I was slamming on Belo

[stuck lodge]

whats the belo build

ST I imagine

[analog swan]

mastery is supreme is ur lucky with low crit chance, its all gambling

[severe meadow]

I ran this, idk if it's optimal or not

[analog swan]

and if u get intermissions u get time to restore thristle tea i guess

[echo heath]

looks standard fair

[severe meadow]

Birds die pretty quick, could prob go more ST heavy I suppose

[analog swan]

a guy with 10% crit and 60% mastery can do alot more damage than a 30% 30% if he is lucky enough, kinda wish crit also translated to crit damage to be more meaningful

[severe meadow]

[coral ibex]

one stat scaling crit rate and damage can't be balanced

it just becomes the best stat bar none

[analog swan]

league of legends TFT has it

[coral ibex]

yea so does final fantasy where it is the best stat for every spec

[echo heath]

it means more combo points which means more damage

[analog swan]

if u crit that is. its gambling

u can be worse performing with 40% crit than a dude with 20% if he crits more

just observation

but nooj is right on being difficult to balance it

people with big burst windows would just stack crit

[coral ibex]

when crit becomes a quadratic scalar you just end up wanting as much of it as possible or literally none

pvp games can balance it because you can adjust other ways characters take damage from each other

but in pve where mobs have standardized damage reduction it doesn't work very well

[analog swan]

they usualy balance it by having a breaking point where u then start gaining crit damage making you onesided towards it to reach it but flawed on all other departments

on the games i know, i didnt play ff14

[echo heath]

i try to get as many 5+ combo point envenoms off as possible, crit helps with that so i do not neglect it

[hazy sundial]

Is there any Assa rogue that does high keys and streams / posts vods? i cant find anything

how sad is that btw

[analog swan]

you can study timelines on warcraftlogs i guess

[hazy sundial]

I wish Zerocool would stream

or post vods

[crisp pine]

he does

[hazy sundial]

where?

his last video was 4 months ago on yt

[crisp pine]

https://www.twitch.tv/zerocoolx

[visual sun]

you get 2nd hand smoke tho

[severe meadow]

@solar wyvern you ever post anything?

[coral ibex]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1372158613312897036/1376317636249518170/speechmeme.com_25_05_2025_23_54_45.gif

[severe meadow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/486284970806083584/1486152563371016261/00-4x.gif

[royal lantern]

man, people ping whisp for way way way worse

[severe meadow]

I mean yeah but like

What do you expect him to really say on 14 sim outcomes with a .1% difference

xd

[royal lantern]

take the result

cus thats kinda it

[severe meadow]

I think he wanted a run down as to why the main stat wasn't good or something

[runic hinge]

It is good

Sims the best for me

If it doesn’t for you. You’re probably noob idk

[fallow canopy]

you got me

[royal lantern]

real

[severe meadow]

I'm noob

Who the fweak

[fallow canopy]

evil twin spotted

[severe meadow]

@haughty flicker did you send a spy..

[haughty flicker]

[weary stump]

Kill

[grim jay]

Its 2nd april

[spice spire]

Good one kitten

[brave gyro]

Man, Zero makes me wanna play some Assa in M+

looks fun

[royal lantern]

you mean the good twin

[sacred oyster]

whats your haste percent? until i got to the 260's, haste was benefiting more than mastery, but i think 18% haste point on sin hitting the GCD break is also doing something that then switches up mastery to be #2 - maybe you havent hit that breakpoint yet is why?

[royal lantern]

what are you even talking about

what GCD break

???????????

[sacred oyster]

sub is suppose to hit 18% haste to reduce GCD to the point to fit an extra action in

[brave gyro]

extend SD*

[fallow canopy]

You add more seconds to dance to be allowed to fit one more gcd not reduce it

[sacred oyster]

haste extends it? i thought it was a GCD thing to fit within the window

oh

[verbal kestrel]

Sorry if this is a dumb question, but does sin’s energy issues ever go away? I’m still leveling (87) so my stats aren’t what they should be but I feel like even with the apex talent I still run out of energy really easily

[brave gyro]

its a talent yeah

[royal lantern]

yeha, this is the assa channel

[sacred oyster]

the last apex helps a lot yeah. you will still feel some starvation though if CT spamming

[royal lantern]

no, the spec is desinged around running out at some point

what has the last apex point to do with energy aikar

srsly, what are you talking about today

its just random missinformation, jesus

[sacred oyster]

I was questioning if its hitting something for us still too. I know my top gear sims are switching up from crit/haste to crit/mastery now when earlier it favored haste over mastery, for ex rings, i just switched from purloined wedding to that crit/mast forgettting name

[royal lantern]

are they "switching"

or is it stuff that is 0,2%

which is marging of error in sims

[west crown]

Taking crit haste on every piece of gear is never going to be optimal. Or whatever stats are “best”. Trust sim

[severe meadow]

In sims we trust..

[hexed pumice]

umm if we had no myth piece from vault and raid yet, do we craft 3rd item?

[severe meadow]

Probably fine, I’m aiming to probably craft a ring

[onyx crane]

so krik's dagger is a good dagger ?

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/rolling-eyes-gif-22773102

just get items for ilvl, and when its equal ilvl sim them

idk, it works that way for like 15 years now

[severe meadow]

You just want big ilvl dagger in main hand

outside of that it's w/e

[solar wyvern]

I do indeed strem and have my vods enabled (unless twitch decides my audio is copywritten and disableds publishing while streamelements is doing that manually in vods)

[severe meadow]

@hazy sundial

[grim jay]

dang, tryan about to lose it

[severe meadow]

I'll kiss Tryan on his hot mouth

[grim jay]

already did

[sacred oyster]

streaming just is too anti social to me. im always in discord with my friends, but things get said that cant be streamed lol, so you have to just sit there talking to your self instead to stream

[analog field]

I mean most wow streamers have the discord sound open and you hear the raid coms

who cares

[humble verge]

WE ARE SO GOATED

[solar wyvern]

Idk i just tell people hey im streaming u want comms muted?

[humble verge]

ive never had comms muted

thats how you get the best memes bro

[solar wyvern]

Ik

[sacred oyster]

im talking more non game related conversations, someone makes a dark joke and bam your banned

[solar wyvern]

Some people wanna talk shit tho lmao

Ye well, get better friends that wont do that if ur coms are on

Or just mute them haha

[analog field]

or don't make dark jokes xd

[sacred oyster]

damn im assuming thats a raid neck?

[humble verge]

yes, i got champ first week, now i got hero

[analog swan]

1 sec

[analog swan]

@sacred oyster here

[sacred oyster]

interesting

[analog swan]

ye it is

and if u go down abit a dude showed his with 30% crit and he still got the agility enchant

but i wont question it further, just follow the bot

[analog field]

No need to sim everything

it doesn't matter 😛

just get agi enchant

or crit

or w/e

[analog swan]

ok...

[royal lantern]

its just

if sims are witthing 0,2% of eachother

its literally error range

aka you can go with what you think is better cus its such a little difference that literally in a billion simulations it doesnt matter really

[analog swan]

67 agility vs 120 haste ye

this was already discussed hours ago so its ok

[analog field]

totally irrelevant

[analog swan]

irrelevant to what?

[royal lantern]

all those differences

[sharp viper]

All within moe

[tawny veldt]

Do you guys know if assassination rogue will be part of the wowanalyzer supported specs?

[spice surge]

Its just dependant on if they get somebody to volunteer to do it

[onyx crane]

man I was doing horrible dmg in windrunners

[hazy sundial]

Can you dm link?

[tawny veldt]

I guess I chose a wrong expansion to learn assassination rogue. It’s my main and I am doing horrible. And the spec is making it look even worse lol

[analog field]

I mean it is not that bad

[tawny veldt]

Then it must be me 😂

Are there any handy macros you guys recommend?

[crisp pine]

I have one that yells the god king skovald monologue from legion

[golden loom]

if you have an on-use trinket that is not puzzlebox for some reason you can macro it to deathmark, can also macro pot to deathmark

but if you have puzzlebox then that cant be macrod

[royal lantern]

NUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

I TOO HAVE PRUVEN MY WURTH ODEEN

[weary stump]

You forgot a line that says desu desu

[thorn thorn]

https://x.com/discord/status/2039761381772460035?s=46

Discord (@discord)

please enjoy

▶ Play video

X · Apr 2, 2026, 5:46 PM

@severe meadow

[stuck lodge]

whats yalls trick macro

mine feels janky

[tawny veldt]

No… my trinkets are “Crucible of Erratic Energies” and now “Ranger-Captain's Iridescent Insignia”. I have no idea if the are any good. I used to rely on bloodmallet data for a quick what’s better kind of lookups. But bloodmallet doesn’t support assassination rogue either

https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/character/us/dalaran/gritssin/

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/zqGxj1ncrt8aXJDF?fight=10&type=damage-done

That subrogue is doing amazing. I wanna “grow up and be like him” 😂

[severe meadow]

[floral shoal]

Vaelgor/Ezzorak heroic: void ball spawns do y'all try to spread bleeds with crimson tempest, only fok or even help at all?

[wind totem]

Can we even proc this?

[royal lantern]

yes

tails flips do cosmic dmg and deathstalkers mark does plague dmg

[wind totem]

oh yeah cosmic dmg is all damage types

[royal lantern]

not all

but shadow is part of it

[cosmic robin]

is it even worth to take instead of any crit/haste variant?

[humble verge]

decent nuff now

i still need to crest save on shoulders

so i can send

[royal lantern]

good thing we can sim that

and i swear, you guys will equip crit/haste on every slot and then act confused when sims tell you to get some mastery and vers

[hollow river]

[golden loom]

Money moves

[humble verge]

got outlaw trinkets in bag

the hand is even myth

[stuck lodge]

crafted a mythic belt but probably thinking it was a mistake now, didn't see that I lose the gem slot

[sharp viper]

it looks like your character is raving

https://klipy.com/gifs/rave-glow-sticks

[humble verge]

hes raved

[golden loom]

Outlaw is outlawed

[balmy condor]

Yeah wapples is a known bleed enjoyer

[humble verge]

enjoying bleed

[balmy condor]

my guide is accurate that’s crazy

[stuck lodge]

the numbers looked good on it too idk

[balmy condor]

If you factor in the sudden demise damage, sure

Accounting for like 8% worth of fake damage, build does great I guess

[wind totem]

moot point. I didnt get it. Hoping for salhadaar neck on mythic now.

[strange onyx]

Yo @balmy condor

[keen raven]

Do you want to envenom at 6 or 7 cb only or is inevenoming at 5cb okay in small target cleave like 3-4

[frosty cedar]

helloing team

[frosty cedar]

5 is giga chilling brother

[golden loom]

You finish on 5+

[sullen bramble]

i finish in 2mins

[royal lantern]

assa is 5+

sub is 6+

outlaw is idk, im not a warrior

[balmy condor]

Yo

[balmy condor]

5+ on dispatch, 6+ on bte

[strange onyx]

NEed to talk to Mr. Wowhead

FoK cant be parried, right?

[balmy condor]

Correct

[strange onyx]

Bloody lovely

Thanks for your support in these trying times as I hate on dragons

[static glacier]

Entire classes earn their raidspots based on fake dmg

[strange onyx]

Where feral if that true?

[young briar]

which curios did u guys use for ?? nullaeus

I keep dieing on the spitters

[humble verge]

@golden loom 20 minutes left on raid, feels like we might kill paladins tonight

27% wipe after 7 pulls

[keen raven]

whats avg pull count for mythic vangs now

[humble verge]

no idea

[keen raven]

u playing asa or u sat?

[humble verge]

bro expecting me to play assa

ignore def

:3

[keen raven]

i mean i think asa just better for this fight no?

[humble verge]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[royal lantern]

why cant you sim both versions of plume in topgear

[coral ibex]

this doesn't work?

[subtle tundra]

it does

write the ilvl

why wouldnt it

[coral ibex]

idk i just checked bc tryan said why cant you sim both versions of plume in topgear :Cring:

[spice surge]

Presumably he meant when you have it in your bag

with /simc

[royal lantern]

^

the lazy version

[coral ibex]

o

tru

[strange onyx]

died on kill, would like to thank @balmy condor for the answer for parry on FoK

[balmy condor]

[frosty cedar]

im so tilted

[strange onyx]

yo wtf leave me alone

[frosty cedar]

I go to vorasius to fix my log on reclear