#assassination

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thorn thorn
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The meme becomes ever more relevant

analog swan
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lol

haughty flicker
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Reject overall embrace boss damage

balmy condor
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It was already very strong on boss damage, and then got another 4%, this pin kinda sums it up

severe meadow
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I mean we already knew we had giga boss damage

analog swan
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if only the ads had 60M health too, then we would be supreme

severe meadow
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We just don't cleave that much

analog swan
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ye ur right it does

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we do cleave much

frosty cedar
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assa rogue is very good 👍

severe meadow
analog swan
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just not good cleave if theyre not big healthy boys 🥀

severe meadow
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Learn to doom already..

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We are negative only in here buddy

spice rose
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how do we play algethar lasherpull as assa? CT allday? i just dunno

frosty cedar
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the cleave feels good to me though Sinscheme

analog swan
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@balmy condor help a brother out

severe meadow
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Don't uptime on both for bleeds

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p3 they get stacked

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CT there

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go next

balmy condor
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You stick to one

analog swan
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if you dont see garrote expiring with ad still alive it doesnt feel good

severe meadow
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You lose too much uptime on one when you swap around like that

analog swan
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uptime of envenom that is

frosty cedar
analog swan
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no it isnt

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rupture clicks every 1.7 seconds or so

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its not fluent

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u cant enjoy it

balmy condor
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What

frosty cedar
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what is my goat saying right now

analog swan
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it lacks flavour

frosty cedar
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hold on hes cooking

severe meadow
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What's he cooking is the question

analog swan
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damage over time effects need to have a nice flow of ticks

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watch that health bar go down slow

frosty cedar
analog swan
balmy condor
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Is 1.7…. Not that?

analog swan
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hell nah

severe meadow
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Every .1 seconds or riot

analog swan
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i could make dinner on those 1.7

severe meadow
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I get it now

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Make them tick every frame so that they get nerfed into the absolute ground

frosty cedar
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if your not alt tabbing between each rupture tick to change your spotify song mid sword-weave your not really playing the spec

analog swan
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as much as i prefer poe2, u guys ever experienced poison rogue on diablo4?

balmy condor
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You know, it’s the first time I think this take has been said out loud, and I respect that

analog swan
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damage over time is best experienced either on diablo4 or remnant2

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im a big dot fan

thorn thorn
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Holy beans

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An original thought

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In wow?

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In 2026????????

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God is real

frosty cedar
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im kind of stunlocked

balmy condor
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Yeah idk

stuck lodge
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Wait so on the giant AA pull i shouldn't be trying to keep up both rupture and garrote?

frosty cedar
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bro is feeling every rupture tick as if it were his own wound

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he is in tune with the spec more than any of us

severe meadow
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Phantom sense but for bleeds

thorn thorn
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I do get what he means though

balmy condor
thorn thorn
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I think

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My ideal version of sin was back in DF when they would pop cds on a big mob in M+ and just melt it

analog swan
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honest question, do you guys swap specializations like i see warlocks doing depending of what raid boss or m+ you guys are doing? are you that cheap that u swap assa depending of the mood?

frosty cedar
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i certainly do not at least in the context of raiding, like you aint seeing hp bars move at all

thorn thorn
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I play only assa terri_gato

analog swan
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you guys killed nullius on assa rogue? be honest, BE HONEST, HONEST

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dont lie to me

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i did

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with 260

analog swan
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im 272 now 🥂

balmy condor
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I killed it for hall of fame so I played sub

thorn thorn
balmy condor
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Fake

analog swan
frosty cedar
thorn thorn
analog swan
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is it just me that is fkn tired of the feint sound btw?

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god damn that shiet is annoying and loud

frosty cedar
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i dont press it so I wouldnt know

analog swan
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not even a macro?

balmy condor
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I don’t play with sound

analog swan
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damn

balmy condor
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A feint macro

analog swan
balmy condor
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What

storm forum
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What's feint?

severe meadow
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Feint doesn't help my parse lil bro

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Just heal me

analog swan
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idk

frosty cedar
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this guy might be him fr

balmy condor
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Idk either

analog swan
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the "OH SHIET IM GONA DIE" button

balmy condor
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You’re on a generational run right now though

analog swan
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idk what that means

balmy condor
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I think you’ve said like 5 unique sentences in the last 10 minutes

frosty cedar
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you know its kind of refreshing

analog swan
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i only play wow (sweating it tf out) since legion remix, thats why

frosty cedar
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if bro macros feint AND vial we call that the 28 energy macro

analog swan
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im not brain smoothed yet

frosty cedar
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this guys brain is giga wrinkled

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filled with many crevices

storm forum
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Oh, the button I press so I don't overcap energy waiting for env/apex to run out

analog swan
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cast it all, fuck it

balmy condor
frosty cedar
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just straight send it

balmy condor
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It’s like a juice cleanse

frosty cedar
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this is what we need

analog swan
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when i started playing i did spend some time planning with all the talents and toys that didnt use GCD

thorn thorn
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is that real

analog swan
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the less i got to click the best

thorn thorn
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real lore?

balmy condor
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Yes

thorn thorn
analog swan
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bro doesnt listen to the kingsbane stabbing

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he not a real one

frosty cedar
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bro is clicking as well

balmy condor
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Idk, I don’t play with sound on in most of my games and it just continued into wow

storm forum
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Personally, I think fb assa has the perfect amount of energy

balmy condor
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I tried to do audio cues from bigwigs at one point and it was just kinda noise to me

coral ibex
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bro is NOT tuned in to audio cues

analog swan
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how are gona hear enemy footsteps on pvp battlegrounds tho

frosty cedar
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hes right whispyr

balmy condor
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You think I’m doing PvP in world of Warcraft?

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Do you think so little of me

analog swan
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bigwigs is wack

storm forum
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And that's a statement likely to get me shot like saying I think disc and shadow priest needs more random pets

balmy condor
analog swan
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you guys ever were on stealth in a delve and valeera kept spamming feintdeath nonstop having a seizure cuz it doesnt clear mob agro on you

thorn thorn
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I also find them incredibly distracting when they do leech through

analog swan
balmy condor
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I turn the sound on while leveling in a new expac

analog swan
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and pretend

balmy condor
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And then I turn it off until the next

frosty cedar
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am I sending rupture damage ticks here?

analog swan
balmy condor
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What other players

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Are you leveling in a raid group or what

analog swan
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start of new expansion = everyone

balmy condor
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Nah

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Shit was empty

analog swan
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u telling me on day 1 of midnight u didnt see a gazilion people that even entering voidstorm was laggy

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woah wtf

balmy condor
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I saw like maybe 5 people at the start of voidstorm

analog swan
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bro plays on a not popular realm 🥀

balmy condor
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Correct

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I transferred off of area52

coral ibex
balmy condor
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Because I was sick of the server crashing every Tuesday

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And it was the best decision I ever made

analog swan
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thats smart, only bad thing i can see from that is, if youre into skinning majestic beast, you cant get it from other people without spending 10k on fish

coral ibex
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i'll never transfer off laughing skull, dead server but with history

analog swan
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where im at i just wait 10sec before someone puts a bait down

balmy condor
analog swan
balmy condor
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But yes, my stream audio is one to one what I hear

analog swan
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but thats an opinion of a bdo player

coral ibex
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well yea but my main has been on LK since i made it in 2009 and also is where leeroy jenkins was filmed

analog swan
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when u usualy stream whispyr, whens next one? im a lurker dw

balmy condor
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Mythic reclear in 1.5hr

strange onyx
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Pray for u

analog swan
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damn im eu 🥀

strange onyx
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My goon squad got stuck on Chim Mythic reclear for a bit

analog swan
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thats why i never see u online

coral ibex
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mine too

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90 mins of chim wipes last night

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mental = boomed

analog swan
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i didnt check whats different from heroic yet for chim

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been fkd up with m+ nonstop

coral ibex
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raid is split into 2 teams, can't get close or you blow up

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plus more soaks

drifting cloud
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quick someone post the reloe screenshot

analog swan
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OH THAT I REMEMBER, cant touch from different realms

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so ppl under cant go hit boss if ur melee

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it FKN SUCKS

coral ibex
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yes you can

analog swan
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what if u touch others melee tho?

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i havent done it so i can only imagine it

coral ibex
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you dont have to touch

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or get close

strange onyx
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what can they do kappa

coral ibex
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benching rogue when kidney is bis for the fear mobs is CRAZY

analog swan
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this is all IF you do still have time left after sending big ads

strange onyx
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Got 2 rogues

coral ibex
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yea 1 for each team

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kidney in each realm

strange onyx
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truth

latent kernel
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Guys I convinced my RL to let me sin, Ws

strange onyx
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play what u want king

latent kernel
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They be dickriding me about it bc “sub is bis!!!!”

strange onyx
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on assa strike until puzzle box is gone

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how i hate that trink

coral ibex
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my raid is full of burst aoe specs so im allowed to be boss dam andy

latent kernel
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Anyone else craft a belt?

coral ibex
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yes

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actually

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bc i got a hero wrist early

latent kernel
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It makes the most sense for my setup lmao

coral ibex
latent kernel
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Or wait

coral ibex
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next week

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maybe

latent kernel
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I sent this week, said fuck it

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Ik it’s not optimal but whatever

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Didn’t have any other myth pieces to send crests on

coral ibex
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i simmed and upgrading 2nd myth weapon + tier gloves was more dam than gloves + waist or weapon + waist

analog swan
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he got the mythic weapon holy

coral ibex
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and im unlikely to get more myth loot this week

latent kernel
coral ibex
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our LC is very fair

coral ibex
analog swan
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@coral ibex just out of curiosity, how does ur talent tree for lightblinded vanguard look like

coral ibex
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idk i probably just copied the wowhead build

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i hate that fight

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i'm gonna be actually mad if im rostered for mythic prog on it

frosty cedar
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im an enjoyer

coral ibex
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they made soul hunters worse

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and i hated soul hunters

latent kernel
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Isn’t it almost better to just sit on boss as rogue anyways bc of atrophic uptimes?

analog swan
cunning needle
coral ibex
analog swan
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and then i would say "if the hat suits you..."

cunning needle
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if they get offended, they should be

coral ibex
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but yea

warped folio
analog swan
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they didnt even know how to spawn the first boss

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leave alone memory game

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jesus

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not a single soul

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i saw 8h of Liquid stream trying to figure out the damn yellow crystal purpose on Midnight falls, was awesome

cunning needle
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sounds like its time to move on and move up

analog swan
analog swan
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i did it and that costed me 1th dps place on Leria

severe meadow
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1th

cunning needle
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unluggy

analog swan
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1th

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firsth

frosty cedar
analog swan
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how do yall kick on m+ btw, mousover kick doesnt seem to work very well with platynator nameplate spacing

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i end up switching target to the caster for a insta kick, wish mouseover worked

frosty cedar
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i look at the mob, press tab, and pray

analog swan
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oh u use tab, thats my fok button

frosty cedar
analog swan
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oh i got a good question, very newbie but it is what it is. on the vaelgor and ezzorak, the mobs that spawn and jump to the middle, if you try to left click them so u can cast envenom on 1 of them after fok its tough cuz theyre dying very quickly, and its not very productive to sit there just spamming aoe fok cuz u cant target stuff. i try to use the macro /targetenemy [noexists][dead] but it doesnt work right cuz the melee casts with that macro only work if whatever it is on front of u is on melee range and not on sides/back, making it complicated

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@balmy condor

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is tab the answer?

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this stuff honestly bugs me out alot requiring very high apm

frosty cedar
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ordinarily you would use tab to target things like this in a tab target mmo

pulsar coral
analog swan
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like on algethar academy first boss, when he spawns the lil plants around it, i end up casting fok on them and envenom on boss, obviously. but what if there was on boss, i would have to use fok and walk to melee range into one of them and hope the /targetenemy [noexists][dead] works corrrently otherwise i have to adjust my position

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this is all fraction of second decision making of positioning but like i said, high apm and movement that im sure u guys got a better solution

frosty cedar
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im not sure what you are asking exactly

strange onyx
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I am confused

analog swan
pulsar coral
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no the macro also does targetlasttarget

strange onyx
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Don’t bother envenom the small adds on drakes

pulsar coral
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you never even notice the target changing

strange onyx
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Just send it on drake and hit a fok or two if you feeling frisky

analog swan
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i set up like 170% Y axis spacing on platynator but because when u move all nameplates adjust verticaly and horizontaly and some go above others depending of what becomes closer to you, if u do mouseover kick it can miss

pulsar coral
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#showtooltip Rebuke
/cast [@focus,exists,nodead,harm] Rebuke
/stopmacro [@focus,exists,nodead,harm]
/focus target
/cleartarget
/targetenemy
/cast Rebuke
/target focus
/clearfocus
/startattack I got this from /r/competitivewow long ago

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it works better than you'd think

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oh it uses focus to save your target i guess

analog swan
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hope i made it clearer

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i dont use tab so maybe im just missing out

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keep in mind, i do just fine but like i said requires alot of apm and placement to do it the way i do

strange onyx
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I honestly think you are overcomplicating a non-issue

pulsar coral
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enable action targeting in settings, i don't have it enabled but maybe you'd like it

analog swan
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ill check if i have that

pulsar coral
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you'll just hit the nearest thing

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it's the native WoW settings

strange onyx
analog swan
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oh its when ur holding right click ye i have it

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but theres that awkward moments when ur not close enough or its not properly on front of you

humble verge
# strange onyx

Rogue do low damage (盗贼伤害垃圾). same parse as arms war (评分红色,和武器战一样). Bring shame to guild (公会之耻). M+ instant decline (大秘秒拒). I stand in city like NPC.

frosty cedar
strange onyx
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You got dudemens in your raid who will handle burst aoe and that way you can handle something else. Team game 🤝

analog swan
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too bad i cant think of a good example where theres no big guy to hit with small ads, it was a example

cunning needle
pulsar coral
# strange onyx

this is also people who stress out about BiS lists, and talk about BiS items all the time. I can't stand it. "Those are my BiS legs!!" Buddy just sim, there is no fixed list in reality, it's all dependent on your existing stats. Just sim yourself and 99.9% of the time the higher ilvl gear piece is better.

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"I don't want those legs, they have vers!"

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  • person who has never run a sim in their life
analog swan
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or just play the game

pulsar coral
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yes

strange onyx
cunning needle
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not anymore

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benched for dragon and paladins

strange onyx
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We out here, buddy

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Rip

cunning needle
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tbh i kinda argued myself to get benched for it

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toss up between 6th healer, ret paladin or rogue

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and 6th healer kinda wins out

frosty cedar
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I told my RL not to bench me because assa is OP

strange onyx
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Think I saw your name on L’ura normal logs yeehaw

frosty cedar
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so im in

analog swan
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"even tho im top dps on salhadaar, if i dont hit the balls and focus boss, you think theyll notice?"

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  • they noticed
sacred oyster
analog swan
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who said they dying that quick?

cunning needle
sacred oyster
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you did lol

coral ibex
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gotta let them know

sacred oyster
strange onyx
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I was top dmg on the balls on mythic salad, just so I could mog the locks who bully me for sending the boss dmg narrative every raid

analog swan
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its all fun and games till raid wipes to a add mechanic and RL says "ok who wasnt hitting the add/ball?"

thorn thorn
# coral ibex

RL when a spec bad at target swapping cant target swap pika

analog swan
frosty cedar
cunning needle
analog swan
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i was talking of salhazaar just now

strange onyx
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I do big ball

thorn thorn
frosty cedar
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sub rogue dead

thorn thorn
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You have 2 abilities to hit them

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fok, which isnt a lot

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And CT which spreads bleeds

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Guess what bleeds (dots) arent good at doing

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Killing things quickly

strange onyx
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You play for kill on first kill or else ya trolling

thorn thorn
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You could try and spatter off of them

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But thats just more effort than its worth

analog swan
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no i get it, we hit things without hitting them

thorn thorn
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And we dont run SD to demise max

analog swan
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but then steven goes "rogue was hitting the boss"

strange onyx
thorn thorn
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So its doubly not worth

analog swan
thorn thorn
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Is steven playing a rogue?

thorn thorn
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Has steven ever played a rogue?

frosty cedar
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where is the pride as assassination rogues

strange onyx
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Fix the snapshotting bug

cunning needle
analog swan
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EXACLY fimbul

thorn thorn
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Trust me as a shadow priest you will get very similar shit

analog swan
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im on a "social" somewhat guild

thorn thorn
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shadow priest wasnt hitting adds

analog swan
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so they only use theyr eyes

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it is what it is

frosty cedar
coral ibex
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get on the mic

thorn thorn
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If you have an issue with the balls not dieing then blame your havoc/fury./frostdk/mage players for not doing their job and blowing them up instantly garf

strange onyx
coral ibex
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"hey fuck you steven"

cunning needle
# analog swan so they only use theyr eyes

your problem here is that you're asking "how do I do damage to the small adds" when you kinda just can't

you swap, and look like you are doing something even though youre really not.

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if they then come out and say "moaist isn't doing damage to small adds on logs"

frosty cedar
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just hit the boss and cleave onto the balls OMEGAKEKW

cunning needle
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you say "yeah I told you i dont do damage but I swapped anyway because i listened to the call"

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and that way you have the moral high ground

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it's all a politics game

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you think we're here to kill bosses?

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wrong buddy

strange onyx
analog swan
# coral ibex "hey fuck you steven"

nah anything you say will backfire with "ofc its a rogue complaining" "ofc its a rogue" "rogues are dumb" and they laugh while u cry in the corner coating ur dagger with 4 poisons for the 50th time on that day

cunning needle
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also yeah just find a new guild

frosty cedar
strange onyx
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If you on voice comms complaining about tuning. You’re miserable

analog swan
# thorn thorn Find a new guild angle

considering, guild is from argent dawn, abit awkward. Does alot of guild have this thing where they dont like typing like we doing and just be on voicecalls?

strange onyx
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Man can do both @frosty cedar

thorn thorn
analog swan
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ive only been on 2 guilds and first one was EGIRLS FOR HIRE cuz she was nice and invited me when i started playing

frosty cedar
thorn thorn
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They call to swap on adds but we dont have an issue with adds not dieing cuz the people playing the specs that blow up adds are actually hitting them

analog swan
# frosty cedar <:OMEGAKEKW:829051106361344021>

salhazhaar is my favourite boss to practice rotations, only sucks that if u start with dm and kingsbane on pull and do the rotation properly you dont have it when he does the spinning thing, might have kinsbane but energy is also somewhat depleted by then

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so ur just there keeping envenom uptime

coral ibex
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you will never have cds for the spin

analog swan
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while mages are bursting it tf down

frosty cedar
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correct

strange onyx
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I might go on assa vacation later in the tier when shit is more on farm. Wanna keep it consistent atm. Can’t waste time as a 2 day guild

analog swan
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i still do top dps tho

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🥂

thorn thorn
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It also depends on boss though

frosty cedar
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I just pooled a bit of energy for the spin, thats all

severe meadow
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I mean the amp is kinda ass anyway

coral ibex
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it doesn't matter, your execute is a stronger amp than the spin phase

thorn thorn
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Cuz like on dragons its just an absolute waste trying to hit the balls

analog swan
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set spin for 2min after pull

frosty cedar
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the boss is fine and fun as is

coral ibex
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boring

thorn thorn
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But for chimaerus and possibly the first boss you could technically swap if there is an issue with the big adds not dieing

analog swan
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ok, make spin on pull

thorn thorn
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Which shouldnt be an issue

coral ibex
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if you put amps where people naturally have cds you can just not have the amps and reduce the hp

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there would be no difference

strange onyx
# frosty cedar assa is op tho

Not saying assa is bad, I agree assa strong. But I am now a ball guy, don’t wanna throw it off on farm without announcing

thorn thorn
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Its also only a 25% amp garf_sit

analog swan
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chimarus also fk u up with rotation if u use deathmark moments before he flies if ur late some seconds on rotation

frosty cedar
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you are designated ball fondler I see

analog swan
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🥀

thorn thorn
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But I get how it is

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I play shadow

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Adds are a luxury item

frosty cedar
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I skipped a few globals on pull of chimarus just to line things up a bit better

strange onyx
analog swan
strange onyx
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So probs gonna be assa on prog for drakes

frosty cedar
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lets go dude

analog swan
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so it tastes good even tho it would taste good regardless if u didnt use so much salt

thorn thorn
analog swan
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ye it is fkn incredibly terrible hahahaha

analog swan
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oh another thing, yall ever have issues trying to pop the puzzle box when pressing it? reminds me of when u try to spam flying on dimensius flying intermission and u get delayed

frosty cedar
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you cant queue it so you have to do it after the gcd

strange onyx
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Gcd

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Also if you got it macroed it breaks

coral ibex
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yea the fact that you can't queue it is so lame

strange onyx
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Had it in the wrong trinket slot today and my death mark didn’t go off

coral ibex
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gotta spam it

analog swan
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ah you might be right, i got alot of /use 13 /use 14 on some stuff but ignored it but after rupture i spam the fk out of it but im probably just not waiting for entire GCD of rupture cuz i wana channel it IMMEDIATLY

strange onyx
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Puzzle box is so fucking dogshitpissasswater and I will not accept another narrative

analog swan
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having the
/use 13
/use 14
on other abilities doesnt seem to bother cuz it doesnt even activate the box

nimble tartan
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me when i have to pool for 2 seconds HOLY sick gameplay

coral ibex
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it doesn't work with cast time trinkets

nimble tartan
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me when i have to channel puzzlebox for 2 seconds dead

strange onyx
#

Don’t have trinkets on abilities other than CDs with macros

frosty cedar
#

the little noise it makes is funny

analog swan
#

me when i go to Algether academy, tank pulls all adds into one spot, pop Lust, and im there "HOLD ON GUYS, ILL BE OUT IN A MINUTE, i just gotta open this box real quick!"

#

it feels so awkward

balmy condor
analog swan
#

"oh shiet will i die in the middle of all this mobs pulled, i cant see the ground, ah fuck it, ill pop the box to start the pull"

analog swan
# balmy condor You just don’t hit them tbh

ye i didnt have a better example of a place where you only have lil ads like that to hit, on that example the best outcome is to just hit the boss ye. others adressed the issue, thanks tho

analog swan
frosty cedar
#

yep

analog swan
#

loggin in rn

#

oh i got another very newbie question that doesnt really affect what i need to do. are there abilities from other classes that can empower 1 ally? like choosing a dps to boost instead of raid wide pump

balmy condor
#

augmentation evokers and power infusion

analog swan
analog swan
#

saw this before and imagined it had to do with sm like that

balmy condor
#

aug doesn't do that

#

99% of the time it's receiving more power infusions than 1 priest could give

thorn thorn
#

PI

balmy condor
#

it's to prevent people stacking priests onto a single target

analog swan
#

wow

#

can i see it easily on a warcraft log? who got buffed and who didnt?

#

buff tab i suppose

balmy condor
#

yeh

analog swan
#

i dont see anything crazy

balmy condor
#

the two pi's

#

back to back

thorn thorn
#

If you receive more than 1 PI every 2 minutes your logs get invalidated

balmy condor
#

it's a 2 min cd

thorn thorn
#

Due to excessive externals

analog swan
#

OH i disregarded that one cuz i thought it was self buffs

#

i see

#

fk

#

so if im having a perfect run i can be fkd from logs if a priest likes me too much huh

#

2 priests

thorn thorn
#

if more than 1 priest

#

2 at least

balmy condor
#

well you'd need more than one priest

#

but yeah sure

analog swan
#

touché 🥂

thorn thorn
#

1 priest giving you PI on cd will be fine

#

Happens all the time

analog swan
#

need to tone down my charisma

thorn thorn
#

But if at any point in the log you get a second PI within 2 minutes the log gets invalidated

analog swan
#

in regards to that ability, the power infusion

#

thats a buff to 1 person every 2min?

#

2 priests picked that guy from everyone else on the 2min coldown?

#

thats, pretty unlucky

thorn thorn
#

Generally yes

balmy condor
thorn thorn
#

Its on the priest + 1 person of their choosing with sun priestess

#

If they dont pick a player it picks one at random

analog swan
#

i didnt get shiet on that one

#

i got to go character by character to see "why is this guy higher dps than me?"

balmy condor
#

assassination isn't really a pi target

analog swan
#

haste works wonders lately idk

#

going above mastery doesnt sit right for me

#

but u know best than anyone

analog swan
solar wyvern
analog swan
balmy condor
#

like mine personally or what

analog swan
#

ye urs

balmy condor
analog swan
#

damn u got speed from a piece

balmy condor
analog swan
#

wtf

#

wheres mine!

solar wyvern
analog swan
#

🥀

cunning needle
#

🥀

balmy condor
#

heroic for a while

solar wyvern
frosty cedar
#

me with champ puzzle box and champ rep trinket

solar wyvern
#

I was given a guidon too

frosty cedar
#

my true power is withheld

solar wyvern
#

Assa dream maybe dead

#

💔

frosty cedar
#

why would assa dream be dead

analog swan
#

i wonder if people would be happy if box got nerfed to the ground. even tho it would lower many dps they wouldnt have to use it anymore

frosty cedar
#

I like it personally

balmy condor
#

you can just play a different trinket it's chill

analog swan
#

I like it ALOOOT for raids, not for m+

solar wyvern
analog swan
frosty cedar
#

reject subtlety

haughty flicker
frosty cedar
#

embrace assassination

haughty flicker
#

my speed is higher than my crit

analog swan
frosty cedar
#

you have less than 13% crit?

analog swan
#

this is why i cant

haughty flicker
#

but yes

frosty cedar
#

ah

haughty flicker
analog swan
frosty cedar
# analog swan

dont get this take. fussing about individual stats doesn't mean anything, but I dont see anything against simming to tune your character garf_sit

analog swan
viscid spear
balmy condor
#

I don't trust priests

frosty cedar
#

as it should be

balmy condor
frosty cedar
#

I havent raided yet this reset OMEGAKEKW

balmy condor
#

figured

#

if you did I wouldn't have rank 1's

analog swan
#

oh i got another nice question. if u had to make a perfect team for m+ what would be the classes+specs of the other members to make the run perfect or better yet, what would you love having the most for tank,healer+2dps for ur m+ run

frosty cedar
#

I will take them all back tommorow garf_sit

balmy condor
#

go for it, it locked in anyway what do I care

frosty cedar
#

im not in on first boss mythic so its up for grabs

balmy condor
#

I need to fix chim

#

but uh

#

don't think it's happening

#

adds explode

#

and we kill too fast for 2nd execute cd

#

it's kinda doomed

frosty cedar
#

that seems unlucky

#

we killed right at berserk

analog swan
#

you got rank 10 tho

frosty cedar
#

I must have gotten unlucky on second boss fr

analog swan
#

look at this guy

balmy condor
analog swan
frosty cedar
#

what remains of the assassination population

analog swan
frosty cedar
#

the valiant warriors

balmy condor
frosty cedar
#

WHAT

#

which boss?

analog swan
#

i see like 85 parse but when i filter for assa rogues of same range of ilvl and team size im on top

balmy condor
#

chimmy

frosty cedar
#

diabolical. blame my spriest

haughty flicker
#

wtf

analog swan
balmy condor
frosty cedar
#

I will maintain that the PI isnt enough to make the dps gap pepe_chad

#

that guy griefed me on HC

#

he was paid off to spam PI on me and remove my log

balmy condor
#

this shit

#

MY COOLDOWNS

frosty cedar
#

lmfao

#

get cut off nerd

#

ive no doubt we will kill it much faster ourselves this reset so I may need to cook alittle

balmy condor
#

idk what I'm gonna do today tbh

#

I think it's just cooked tbh

thorn thorn
frosty cedar
#

give

balmy condor
#

like we kill faster, how do I even recover a lost cd

thorn thorn
analog swan
#

i wana see who got buffed without individual inspection

frosty cedar
# balmy condor idk what I'm gonna do today tbh

my primary strategy was to hold vanish for first add set and snapshot it with the last 2 seconds of puzzle box and spread to the ghosts, I omitted the envenom in the opener setup to squeeze things in

balmy condor
#

you can just go to the buff tab without clicking on someone

frosty cedar
#

that would explain your larger deathmark first usage

balmy condor
balmy condor
analog swan
balmy condor
#

what else would you need to see

frosty cedar
# balmy condor

perhaps the priest forgot to go down with the monk omega lul

#

though why anyone would see an assa rogue and PI them is beyond my mortal reckoning

analog swan
#

oh forget it, thought there would be some more pilling stuff like shouts to close players or smth

#

ill look into that

thorn thorn
#

I gave Daylea (aug) PI when we do keys

frosty cedar
#

forbidden aug PI

thorn thorn
#

Its the forbidden tech

#

And I am the mastermind

balmy condor
frosty cedar
#

for being the chosen one and all, I didnt get shit in my vault. blizzard doesnt want to see the rise of assa

balmy condor
#

what if deathstalker....

#

am I overcooking

wicked scaffold
#

so if you play mythic raid as assa is it how hard to get into top 100?

balmy condor
#

top 100 of what

analog swan
#

ah i see how it is now

wicked scaffold
#

logs

balmy condor
#

should be pretty easy, there's less than 100 assa rogues on most mythic fights

cunning needle
wicked scaffold
#

got pretty solid assa gear atm so need to give it a try

frosty cedar
#

do it

balmy condor
#

assa is good

#

why top 100 specifically?

wicked scaffold
#

guildies always try to get top 100 logs

#

so gonna show them

analog swan
#

who would u consider to be best option here to use power infusion 3x

#

it was used on Miuw

#

3x

haughty flicker
#

playing a spec with only 90 players makes it pretty easy to be top 100

cunning needle
balmy condor
analog swan
# cunning needle i hate mages

frost mage looks fun, i saw some streamers on it. spamming the ice darts thingy nonstop and sometimes a big dart or a ice beam, thats about it. they had alot of time to move around and look around

#

i havent tried other classes so i know little

balmy condor
#

but if that windwalker isn't getting PI, your priests are actually trolling

haughty flicker
#

me when my pi goes randomly in heroic

analog swan
cunning needle
balmy condor
analog swan
#

wow really?

#

damn

balmy condor
#

that's the windwalker ain't it?

analog swan
bitter solar
#

frost mage is below Assassination in value of PI

#

actual troll behavior

cunning needle
analog swan
cunning needle
#

and just sit in one fucking spot for the entire fight

analog swan
#

you know who takes best use of haste, im learning it rn

analog swan
bitter solar
#

WW. Whispyr said a few times

cunning needle
#

mages will try and gaslamp you into thinking they are squishy when they have the same + more defensives than us

analog swan
#

when i hear "ok guys pop ur denfensives" i think "pop what bro? i only got feint and rest was already used trying to survive melee"

cunning needle
#

mages went from having like 8 defensives and were pruned down to 3 or 4

#

alter time
ice block
mirror image
frost barrier (?)

wicked scaffold
#

cheat death best def

balmy condor
frosty cedar
#

whispyr I am in possession of forbidden deathstalker knowledge that may make it similar to FB in simulations, should I keep it removed from the light of day?

balmy condor
#

so

bitter solar
#

i though mirror images dosen't give DR anymore?

bitter solar
#

(i have no idea)

frosty cedar
#

well it is more that as far as I can tell, the sim is bugged rather than knowledge, but you may be aware of it

analog swan
#

speaking of mages, i saw on Beloren new boss they would put 2 circles close together and a mage would stay on both and pop the spell that makes them frozen

frosty cedar
#

precise killer does not seem to be simming at all

royal hazel
#

we did it boys!

#

1/9m

analog swan
#

idk if thats gona be meta mechanic, havent seen much of Beloren strats

royal hazel
#

7% away from 2/7m

cunning needle
iron thorn
#

Please don’t do this to me

frosty cedar
#

take a look at an equal talent build with DS and FB

iron thorn
#

I like flipping my coins

frosty cedar
#

they have the exact same crit dmg for certain abilities and melees

#

its like, 5% in ST or something

analog swan
frosty cedar
#

but lets not make DS good please

#

I withheld this knowledge for fear of its impacts

analog swan
#

ahahahha

frosty cedar
#

as deathstalkers number one hater, lets forget about it shall we

cunning needle
#

forget about what

#

i was hit over the head

#

and dont remember anything in the last 3 minutes

thorn thorn
frosty cedar
#

I did 😄

#

I dont think simc likes crit damage increases at all. I noticed the same bug, if it is even bugged, for demonology warlock in TWW with the crit damage talent that no one took bc it simmed less. turns out it was the most optimal ST talent after I did some napkin math, so I was the only one who took it that tier

wicked scaffold
#

could there be like a wowhead post about deathstalker at some point?

analog swan
#

this is what i meant, instead of having people soak they place them together and have a mage frozen in the middle

thorn thorn
#

Return to deathstalker meta raaaaaaaa

balmy condor
#

idk

#

seems fine

analog swan
#

ill clip it, they always do that

frosty cedar
#

perhaps I am misunderstanding then. Here is my melee hits with fatebound and DS

#

the crit avg appears to be the same or slightly less on DS, but this cannot be the case?

spice surge
#

Why not

balmy condor
#

heads buff

main bobcat
#

Nice head

frosty cedar
#

could be

lucid rune
#

where does crafting an offhand dagger rank in prio? would I be better getting mythic arcanoweave wrists?

frosty cedar
#

maybe its just weirdly equal to precise killer in overall damage increase?

#

cause its basically the same with other abilities as well

analog swan
spice surge
#

Like you can calculate the damage increase from the normal hits to the crits

analog swan
#

only 1 in middle instead of team soak to its respective color

spice surge
#

And youll see that its higher on DS

#

~225% instead of ~205%

frosty cedar
#

yeah I might be griefing then

#

thank god

analog swan
#

whispyr got a guide on that

lucid rune
#

I have 272 arcano wrists, was thinking of recrafting

analog swan
frosty cedar
#

did you craft with hero crests?

spice surge
#

Wdym how

#

He literally just stands there

analog swan
spice surge
#

Theyre immuning

analog swan
#

oh

spice surge
#

Cloak/turtle/iceblock

analog swan
#

i guess thats another mage skill i dont know bout

#

i only knew iceblock, thanks

#

whats yall toughts between being on a social vs raid guild? i kinda want to have people more excited bout raids and perfecting gameplay instead of going for 50000000 achievements and house decor but at same time, having all this constant pings for raid day and pressure to perform on a raid intensive guild sounds like a job and not a game. how yall ended up?

#

no better to ask than veterans that went through multiple phases of guild and drama

iron thorn
#

Game without raid would be done next week for me

cunning needle
iron thorn
#

Game with raid takes entire season

cunning needle
#

your experience is not uncommon

analog swan
#

🤝

cunning needle
#

🤝

#

some people used to play high end and now play in social guilds

analog swan
#

if i never got to play this game or buy midnight i would be playing crimson desert right now 🥀

cunning needle
#

i think fuu does that

#

but he's also playing with his girlfriend

#

so there are other goals than just beating the bosses quickly

analog swan
#

ye thats perfect

plain thistle
#

lets go boys

buoyant herald
#

too easy

frosty cedar
#

nice one

thorn thorn
cunning needle
# analog swan ye thats perfect

end of the day if youre not having fun in your enviroment where the goal is to have fun, you need to change your enviroment

#

that goes for more than just wow

analog swan
# plain thistle lets go boys

what addon u use to show ilvl on gear window and decimals on ilvl, i know a few but ones i tested made some bugs ocasionaly

frosty cedar
#

dejacharacterstats does it I believe

#

thats what im using anyway

analog swan
analog swan
#

what u mean probably, screenshot not urs?

split veldt
#

do you guys ever have your combo points just dissapear from ur UI

dire smelt
#

in windruner spire yes

frosty cedar
#

nope

#

wangbar my beloved

analog swan
#

nope i use the blizzard resource showing on middle

split veldt
#

happens to me in raid, with blizzards ui lol

#

goes away at the start and then comes back randomly later in the fight

analog swan
#

u might need to reset ur whole ui and presets lol

split veldt
#

doesnt happen every time, only happened like 3-4 times so far

analog swan
#

ye but its annoying you lol

#

if it was me i would get advancedinterfaceoptions and test stuff or spend hours disabling addons to find a culprit

#

if u have any other Ui addon other than minimap adjustment alot of weird stuff can happen and bugsack spam lol

split veldt
#

it's blizzards UI tho, im not using an addons for CPs

#

no other UI addons

#

blizzards has been good for a bit now

thorn thorn
#

Puzzlebox on G is crazywork

analog swan
#

its 1 click and done, got more important stuff to have close

thorn thorn
#

G is kick

analog swan
#

thats V

#

for me hehe

#

its a league of legends and Black desert online player trying to adapt to wow

#

im pretty hard wired to bdo way of keybinds

analog swan
warped moon
#

interesting

#

do you cycle targets with mousewheel

analog swan
#

only bad thing about my layout would be that i have mutilate and envenom on same side so that means i cant move right, only left and up while mousing over them both with indicator BUT considering we have 1 sec GCD between casts, its irrelevant, otherwise i would change by now

analog swan
#

i use platynator with alot of information to know who i should target

warped moon
#

i havent heard of any of that haha

#

thats neat

analog swan
#

and for kick i use the macro to mouseover target but it doesnt work well if u move cuz nameplates overlap and move around based on proximity so i end up clicking the caster for a instant kick without fail

thorn thorn
#

R as in, Really important

analog swan
#

Not on K for Kingsbane, not a true Enthusiast

thorn thorn
#

i only have 5 fingers

#

if i had 7 it would be on k

analog swan
#

you have 10?

#

one day ill have a mouse with 12 buttons and i wont use a keyboard anymore

frosty cedar
#

I play league so I have some leaguey keybinds

#

Q, E, R, F and T are my main abilities

analog swan
#

flash on D or F?

frosty cedar
#

I flash on D because I am not a caveman

analog swan
#

mah man, u passed

frosty cedar
#

🤝

analog swan
#

do u have pinky on tab or on Q?

frosty cedar
#

In league?

analog swan
#

ye

frosty cedar
#

I actually have no idea. I don't think I Q with pinky?

analog swan
#

some do Tab/q/w/e some do qwer

#

i do qwer for more range for 12345 items

#

out of topic anyhow

frosty cedar
#

Position?

#

I'm ADC

analog swan
#

fill man, its same map over and over

frosty cedar
analog swan
#

to win tho, mid/jungle

#

to have fun? top/adc

#

to be fair, pinky on q is good for range to potions 12345 BUT if u are a cntrl player to upgrade abilities and u played shooter games on pc u probably got pink on tab so its easy to move to cntrl+qwer. i played destiny 1 while u guys were banging csgo so i skipped that

low hare
#

@balmy condor at what level key would you suggest swapping to Deathstalker vs Fatebound? Fate is certainly easier, but i kinda learned to play around deathmark last exp pack, so at what level would you say its viable again?

analog swan
#

isnt fatebound the answer all the time?

low hare
#

yep im aware lol

balmy condor
#

m+ tuning is very relaxed for dps for some reason

#

you're more likely to just giga overkill your prio target

#

maybe that changes at like +18 or +19

#

but like

analog swan
#

top 100 rogues on m+ almost always are fatebound

balmy condor
#

I mean yeah

#

we haven't hit the point where the prio is required

analog swan
balmy condor
#

why what

analog swan
#

its not like u are moving from pack to pack quickly on high keys, why u want the shadowstep spam

#

i dont see reason to take that

cunning needle
#

shadowstep back

balmy condor
#

it's a utility talent

analog swan
#

ohhhhh shiet

balmy condor
#

the other one sucks anyway

analog swan
#

true true

#

i usualy shadowstep>kick>sprint back SUPER FAST

#

but that shadowstep x2 for kick seems kinda cool

#

i need to try that

#

damn they prefer 1 point into fatal concotion than doomblade

#

thats news to me too

#

alright lads, learned alot, ill be going to bed. goodluck on reclear whispyr

fallen wasp
#

Hey fellas. I have heard that assassination is very bad on anything not pure single target. Is thst true? I kinda like the rework and was excited to get it to 3k m+ rating

coral ibex
#

no

#

it isn't

coral ibex
#

getting 3k is trivial

low hare
royal hazel
low hare
#

yea damage is pretty nuts ST and in keys

fallen wasp
#

Ah i read on the competitive wow subreddit that sin does no aoe

royal hazel
#

WHAT

severe meadow
#

what xd

vocal basalt
#

I mean

#

Your first mistake

severe meadow
#

I think maybe stay off Reddit xd

low hare
#

but over all

#

crushing it

vocal basalt
#

Realistically, the spec is fine. Could it be doing more? Yes. Could Blizzard have better balanced spreading two bleeds while many other specs can just aoe at free will? yes

severe meadow
#

They'd likely bonk bleeds on the head if you spread them faster

fallen wasp
#

Alright good to know. Cheers all!

vocal basalt
#

Spread them fast enough before burst classes kill most of the adds dogkek

zinc frost
#

Spec good

stuck lodge
#

god dragons is a shit fight

#

wtf am I supposed to be doing

severe meadow
#

sticking to a dragon

#

and punching it

stuck lodge
#

should I be pure ST?

severe meadow
#

no

#

dragons get stacked in p3

gilded oasis
#

@spice spire put this on your fridge

spice spire
#

queen shit

gilded oasis
#

dont look at any of my other ones tho

#

kthnx

stuck lodge
#

guys

#

I'm learning

fallow canopy
#

big pepe_chad

balmy condor
stuck lodge
#

Didn't finish council but this is going on the fridge

stuck lodge
fallow canopy
#

or I'll come for yours afterwards (?

balmy condor
#

human centipede type shit

shut sand
#

Deathstalker buff wenV

#

?

severe meadow
#

I am fucking ripping on Belo if we could simply kill it

#

our tanks are struggling

gilded oasis
#

did not get close to Whispyr's booty on Belo. Booty-less

balmy condor
#

that's insano pad

gilded oasis
#

WOAH its not pad

#

I got lucky for a few pulls and had no mechanics and I think a major add person died so they lived longer

coral ibex
#

"i heard assa does bad aoe"

#

pit 13

gilded oasis
#

you show them

coral ibex
#

and we wiped once

#

bozo pug tank tried to ff

#

netherblast went off while i was getting yoinked by the garg

vital haven
#

yo yo

#

what build for paladins?

coral ibex
#

breakdown btw

astral leaf
#

doesn't seem like its that bad

balmy condor
#

would probably want to drop the razor wire for a fatal conc point

#

but shouldn't make much of a difference

#

both super low value

severe meadow
gilded oasis
#

not even top 10 dead

#

also what is that

severe meadow
#

belo

#

the one pull I do semi shit we kill it

#

xd

haughty flicker
#

thats always how it goes

#

gg

gilded oasis
#

ALWAYS

severe meadow
#

every other pull I was 90-100k

haughty flicker
#

this game sucks btw

severe meadow
#

Belo is a uh

#

Interesting fight for sure

haughty flicker
#

yeah

severe meadow
#

We have a few people who just cannot do the colors

haughty flicker
#

our rl's power went out mid raid night

#

so uh

severe meadow
#

it's kinda insane

haughty flicker
#

we struggled a bit

solar wyvern
#

!

haughty flicker
solar wyvern
#

not last place

#

!!!!

haughty flicker
#

definitely going to post this without context later

gilded oasis
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no context needed king

twilit python
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bro this class is actualyl horrible

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i have never felt more useless in my life

past bobcat
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not bad

twilit python
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i tried all 3 rogue specs on paladins and my best pull was like 138k

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meanwhile hunters are doing 210k dps

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like were actually wiping to the dmg check because we're 5% off so now we just sit the shit classes and play more hunters

stuck lodge
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I feel like ass pumps on council? 3x bleeds for one CT is pretty huge

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Its not marksman level but it feels good to play

twilit python
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it does not pump

balmy condor
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Problem is that all 3 rogue specs have had their cleave nerfed significantly

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Caustic doesn’t carry you anymore and bleeds just ain’t good enough

stuck lodge
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yeah, caustic did feel bad on a lot of the fights

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or at least, it wasn't doing much

twilit python
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and atrophic is good but just not necessary so its the first thing you drop

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the only class im beating is an ele shaman lol

stuck lodge
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have you considered joining a less competitive guild?

twilit python
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xd

balmy condor
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I’m writing that one down

stuck lodge
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My guild is struggling to clear H and I am looking real good