#assassination
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lol
Reject overall embrace boss damage
It was already very strong on boss damage, and then got another 4%, this pin kinda sums it up
I mean we already knew we had giga boss damage
if only the ads had 60M health too, then we would be supreme
We just don't cleave that much
assa rogue is very good 👍
I'm sick of this guy bro
just not good cleave if theyre not big healthy boys 🥀
how do we play algethar lasherpull as assa? CT allday? i just dunno
the cleave feels good to me though 
@balmy condor help a brother out
no it doesnt
You stick to one
if you dont see garrote expiring with ad still alive it doesnt feel good
You lose too much uptime on one when you swap around like that
uptime of envenom that is
it is what it is. the damage is good either way
no it isnt
rupture clicks every 1.7 seconds or so
its not fluent
u cant enjoy it
What
what is my goat saying right now
it lacks flavour
hold on hes cooking
What's he cooking is the question
damage over time effects need to have a nice flow of ticks
watch that health bar go down slow
only hope in here bro
nah honestly that name is kinda overused lately ngl
Is 1.7…. Not that?
hell nah
Every .1 seconds or riot
i could make dinner on those 1.7
I get it now
Make them tick every frame so that they get nerfed into the absolute ground

if your not alt tabbing between each rupture tick to change your spotify song mid sword-weave your not really playing the spec
as much as i prefer poe2, u guys ever experienced poison rogue on diablo4?
You know, it’s the first time I think this take has been said out loud, and I respect that
damage over time is best experienced either on diablo4 or remnant2
im a big dot fan
im kind of stunlocked
Yeah idk
Wait so on the giant AA pull i shouldn't be trying to keep up both rupture and garrote?
bro is feeling every rupture tick as if it were his own wound
he is in tune with the spec more than any of us
Phantom sense but for bleeds
I do get what he means though
You should be using CT as your main generator
I think
My ideal version of sin was back in DF when they would pop cds on a big mob in M+ and just melt it
honest question, do you guys swap specializations like i see warlocks doing depending of what raid boss or m+ you guys are doing? are you that cheap that u swap assa depending of the mood?
i certainly do not at least in the context of raiding, like you aint seeing hp bars move at all
I will never press N
I play only assa 
I swap yeh
Rogue enjoyer
you guys killed nullius on assa rogue? be honest, BE HONEST, HONEST
dont lie to me
i did
with 260
play sin for both
im 272 now 🥂
I killed it for hall of fame so I played sub

ye it had to be done


is it just me that is fkn tired of the feint sound btw?
god damn that shiet is annoying and loud
i dont press it so I wouldnt know
not even a macro?
I don’t play with sound
damn
A feint macro
hoooooly
What
What's feint?
this guy might be him fr
Idk either
the "OH SHIET IM GONA DIE" button
You’re on a generational run right now though
idk what that means
I think you’ve said like 5 unique sentences in the last 10 minutes
you know its kind of refreshing
i only play wow (sweating it tf out) since legion remix, thats why
if bro macros feint AND vial we call that the 28 energy macro
im not brain smoothed yet
Oh, the button I press so I don't overcap energy waiting for env/apex to run out
fuck it, add evasion and cloak of shadows to the mix
cast it all, fuck it
It is a bit strange to see new sentences after a half year of “blizzard killed assassination where’s my energy”
just straight send it
It’s like a juice cleanse
this is what we need
when i started playing i did spend some time planning with all the talents and toys that didnt use GCD
the less i got to click the best
real lore?
Yes

bro is clicking as well
Idk, I don’t play with sound on in most of my games and it just continued into wow
Personally, I think fb assa has the perfect amount of energy
I tried to do audio cues from bigwigs at one point and it was just kinda noise to me
bro is NOT tuned in to audio cues
how are gona hear enemy footsteps on pvp battlegrounds tho
hes right whispyr
bigwigs is wack
And that's a statement likely to get me shot like saying I think disc and shadow priest needs more random pets
Idk man, maybe my ears are broken they just unfocused me perma
u wont be shot by me
you guys ever were on stealth in a delve and valeera kept spamming feintdeath nonstop having a seizure cuz it doesnt clear mob agro on you
I relate to this because my brain auto filtered out any noise from WA and bigwigs
I also find them incredibly distracting when they do leech through
u can put a battlepet down and use enlarge item on him 🙂
I turn the sound on while leveling in a new expac
and pretend
And then I turn it off until the next
am I sending rupture damage ticks here?
ew, thats the worst time, u gona hear all the other players
start of new expansion = everyone
u telling me on day 1 of midnight u didnt see a gazilion people that even entering voidstorm was laggy
woah wtf
I saw like maybe 5 people at the start of voidstorm
bro plays on a not popular realm 🥀
damn i feel like by the end of prog i could probably play some fights with my monitor off but with sound
Because I was sick of the server crashing every Tuesday
And it was the best decision I ever made
thats smart, only bad thing i can see from that is, if youre into skinning majestic beast, you cant get it from other people without spending 10k on fish
i'll never transfer off laughing skull, dead server but with history
where im at i just wait 10sec before someone puts a bait down
Yeah well you can play some fights at the end of raid with your sound on and your monitor off, I play the fights at the start of raid with my sound off and my monitor on, so how bout that
theres not alot of identity with people having multiple characters on different realms and on different guilds
But yes, my stream audio is one to one what I hear
but thats an opinion of a bdo player
well yea but my main has been on LK since i made it in 2009 and also is where leeroy jenkins was filmed
when u usualy stream whispyr, whens next one? im a lurker dw
Mythic reclear in 1.5hr
Pray for u
damn im eu 🥀
My goon squad got stuck on Chim Mythic reclear for a bit
thats why i never see u online
quick someone post the reloe screenshot
OH THAT I REMEMBER, cant touch from different realms
so ppl under cant go hit boss if ur melee
it FKN SUCKS
yes you can
benching rogue when kidney is bis for the fear mobs is CRAZY
this is all IF you do still have time left after sending big ads
Got 2 rogues
truth
Guys I convinced my RL to let me sin, Ws
play what u want king
They be dickriding me about it bc “sub is bis!!!!”
my raid is full of burst aoe specs so im allowed to be boss dam andy
Anyone else craft a belt?
It makes the most sense for my setup lmao
I sent this week, said fuck it
Ik it’s not optimal but whatever
Didn’t have any other myth pieces to send crests on
i simmed and upgrading 2nd myth weapon + tier gloves was more dam than gloves + waist or weapon + waist
he got the mythic weapon holy
and im unlikely to get more myth loot this week
That’s situation I’m in so I just sent it on the belt
our LC is very fair
dropped last week and im the only dagger user in the raid
@coral ibex just out of curiosity, how does ur talent tree for lightblinded vanguard look like

idk i probably just copied the wowhead build
i hate that fight
i'm gonna be actually mad if im rostered for mythic prog on it
im an enjoyer
Isn’t it almost better to just sit on boss as rogue anyways bc of atrophic uptimes?
i wana share that to guild but so many will be offended
do it anyway
depends on what actually does damage in a fight
and then i would say "if the hat suits you..."
if they get offended, they should be
but yea
I'm trying to figure out why my envenom damage is a lot lower than someone else. Can someone tell from this log comparison? https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/compare/dZq4CmPV8kaNQgtb/KdvwVNQBfjZFh6Pm?fight=11%2C4&type=damage-done&source=8%2CGeé
today was first time i talked during raid voicecall cuz nobody saw anything for MOQ raid bosses
they didnt even know how to spawn the first boss
leave alone memory game
jesus
not a single soul
i saw 8h of Liquid stream trying to figure out the damn yellow crystal purpose on Midnight falls, was awesome
sucks when the RL says "DAMAGE ON THE ADDS" for the 2nd time in a row, u know he doesnt understand ur purpose so u have to go otherwise if add wipes group ur one of the ones to blame
hell nah, imagine shotcalling while mainting uptime of ur stuff and trinket + mechanics
i did it and that costed me 1th dps place on Leria

1th
unluggy
i was gona correct but then somehow i liked it so i kept typing
1th
firsth

how do yall kick on m+ btw, mousover kick doesnt seem to work very well with platynator nameplate spacing
i end up switching target to the caster for a insta kick, wish mouseover worked
i look at the mob, press tab, and pray

oh i got a good question, very newbie but it is what it is. on the vaelgor and ezzorak, the mobs that spawn and jump to the middle, if you try to left click them so u can cast envenom on 1 of them after fok its tough cuz theyre dying very quickly, and its not very productive to sit there just spamming aoe fok cuz u cant target stuff. i try to use the macro /targetenemy [noexists][dead] but it doesnt work right cuz the melee casts with that macro only work if whatever it is on front of u is on melee range and not on sides/back, making it complicated
@balmy condor
is tab the answer?
this stuff honestly bugs me out alot requiring very high apm
ordinarily you would use tab to target things like this in a tab target mmo
i use my mouseover still, miss half the time, I set focus also sometimes, but can't tell what's being cast because the nameplates end up overlapping. I also have a yolo'-interrupt macro that just uses /cleartarget /targetenemy to try and target the casting mob with tab logic, which works well a lot of the time
like on algethar academy first boss, when he spawns the lil plants around it, i end up casting fok on them and envenom on boss, obviously. but what if there was on boss, i would have to use fok and walk to melee range into one of them and hope the /targetenemy [noexists][dead] works corrrently otherwise i have to adjust my position
this is all fraction of second decision making of positioning but like i said, high apm and movement that im sure u guys got a better solution
im not sure what you are asking exactly
I am confused
thats worse than left clicking the mob, if ur mousing over and clicking kick to clear target and kicking new target and attack him, u risk kicking wrong one and now ur also sitting there attacking wrong one
no the macro also does targetlasttarget
Don’t bother envenom the small adds on drakes
you never even notice the target changing
Just send it on drake and hit a fok or two if you feeling frisky
i set up like 170% Y axis spacing on platynator but because when u move all nameplates adjust verticaly and horizontaly and some go above others depending of what becomes closer to you, if u do mouseover kick it can miss
#showtooltip Rebuke
/cast [@focus,exists,nodead,harm] Rebuke
/stopmacro [@focus,exists,nodead,harm]
/focus target
/cleartarget
/targetenemy
/cast Rebuke
/target focus
/clearfocus
/startattack I got this from /r/competitivewow long ago
it works better than you'd think
oh it uses focus to save your target i guess
it was used as a example. im trying to put situations where u want to focus the ads, they need to die, how do u target stuff that is dying quickly even tho there is 1000 of them. do you click, tab, /targetenemy [noexists][dead], how do u use abilitys that require a target on stuff that is dying quickly
hope i made it clearer
i dont use tab so maybe im just missing out
keep in mind, i do just fine but like i said requires alot of apm and placement to do it the way i do
I honestly think you are overcomplicating a non-issue
enable action targeting in settings, i don't have it enabled but maybe you'd like it
ill check if i have that
oh its when ur holding right click ye i have it
but theres that awkward moments when ur not close enough or its not properly on front of you
Rogue do low damage (盗贼伤害垃圾). same parse as arms war (评分红色,和武器战一样). Bring shame to guild (公会之耻). M+ instant decline (大秘秒拒). I stand in city like NPC.
real
You got dudemens in your raid who will handle burst aoe and that way you can handle something else. Team game 🤝
too bad i cant think of a good example where theres no big guy to hit with small ads, it was a example
You also got dudemens in your raid who will handle single target damage and that way you can keep the bench warm. Team game 🤝
this is also people who stress out about BiS lists, and talk about BiS items all the time. I can't stand it. "Those are my BiS legs!!" Buddy just sim, there is no fixed list in reality, it's all dependent on your existing stats. Just sim yourself and 99.9% of the time the higher ilvl gear piece is better.
"I don't want those legs, they have vers!"
- person who has never run a sim in their life
or just play the game
yes
I have seen you on them sub logs. We ain’t sly like that
tbh i kinda argued myself to get benched for it
toss up between 6th healer, ret paladin or rogue
and 6th healer kinda wins out
I told my RL not to bench me because assa is OP
Think I saw your name on L’ura normal logs yeehaw
so im in
"even tho im top dps on salhadaar, if i dont hit the balls and focus boss, you think theyll notice?"
- they noticed
if they are dieing hat quick, why are you even trying to attack them? just stay on boss

you did lol
gotta let them know
you literally said "theye dying very quicky"
I was top dmg on the balls on mythic salad, just so I could mog the locks who bully me for sending the boss dmg narrative every raid
its all fun and games till raid wipes to a add mechanic and RL says "ok who wasnt hitting the add/ball?"
RL when a spec bad at target swapping cant target swap 
wtf
I was top boss and pretty low on the big ball, but mid on the lil balls
same brotherman. just absolutely dumpster the small adds and assert dominance on your entire raid
i was talking of salhazaar just now
I do big ball
Lets break this down seriously for a moment
sub rogue 
You have 2 abilities to hit them
fok, which isnt a lot
And CT which spreads bleeds
Guess what bleeds (dots) arent good at doing
Killing things quickly
You play for kill on first kill or else ya trolling
no i get it, we hit things without hitting them
And we dont run SD to demise max
but then steven goes "rogue was hitting the boss"
I fuck hard with sub and guidon atm. Fuck puzzle box
So its doubly not worth
traitors
Thats on your RL for being a moron and listening to anything steven says
Is steven playing a rogue?
fk steven
Has steven ever played a rogue?
where is the pride as assassination rogues
Fix the snapshotting bug
this is the entire reason why I swap to vorasius adds and just auto attack them. I know i'm doing 0 damage to them, but it's about the perception that i'm obeying the call
EXACLY fimbul
Trust me as a shadow priest you will get very similar shit
im on a "social" somewhat guild
shadow priest wasnt hitting adds
the bug that gives us dmg? 😄
fuck steven
get on the mic
If you have an issue with the balls not dieing then blame your havoc/fury./frostdk/mage players for not doing their job and blowing them up instantly 
Yes, the bug that makes puzzle box BIG
"hey fuck you steven"
your problem here is that you're asking "how do I do damage to the small adds" when you kinda just can't
you swap, and look like you are doing something even though youre really not.
if they then come out and say "moaist isn't doing damage to small adds on logs"
just hit the boss and cleave onto the balls 
you say "yeah I told you i dont do damage but I swapped anyway because i listened to the call"
and that way you have the moral high ground
it's all a politics game
you think we're here to kill bosses?
wrong buddy
nah anything you say will backfire with "ofc its a rogue complaining" "ofc its a rogue" "rogues are dumb" and they laugh while u cry in the corner coating ur dagger with 4 poisons for the 50th time on that day
Find a new guild angle
Don’t be a bad hang
also yeah just find a new guild
I was NOT fondling those balls
If you on voice comms complaining about tuning. You’re miserable
considering, guild is from argent dawn, abit awkward. Does alot of guild have this thing where they dont like typing like we doing and just be on voicecalls?
Man can do both @frosty cedar
Unsure but im also in a casual guild and dont have this problem
ive only been on 2 guilds and first one was EGIRLS FOR HIRE cuz she was nice and invited me when i started playing

They call to swap on adds but we dont have an issue with adds not dieing cuz the people playing the specs that blow up adds are actually hitting them
salhazhaar is my favourite boss to practice rotations, only sucks that if u start with dm and kingsbane on pull and do the rotation properly you dont have it when he does the spinning thing, might have kinsbane but energy is also somewhat depleted by then
so ur just there keeping envenom uptime
you will never have cds for the spin
while mages are bursting it tf down
correct
I might go on assa vacation later in the tier when shit is more on farm. Wanna keep it consistent atm. Can’t waste time as a 2 day guild
It also depends on boss though
I just pooled a bit of energy for the spin, thats all
I mean the amp is kinda ass anyway
it doesn't matter, your execute is a stronger amp than the spin phase
assa is op tho
Cuz like on dragons its just an absolute waste trying to hit the balls
REVAMP THE BOSS, make a petition
set spin for 2min after pull
the boss is fine and fun as is
boring
But for chimaerus and possibly the first boss you could technically swap if there is an issue with the big adds not dieing
ok, make spin on pull
Which shouldnt be an issue
if you put amps where people naturally have cds you can just not have the amps and reduce the hp
there would be no difference
Not saying assa is bad, I agree assa strong. But I am now a ball guy, don’t wanna throw it off on farm without announcing
Its also only a 25% amp 
chimarus also fk u up with rotation if u use deathmark moments before he flies if ur late some seconds on rotation
you are designated ball fondler I see
🥀
I skipped a few globals on pull of chimarus just to line things up a bit better
I play assa when both Devourer are in 🧠
you cant just put salt on rice and not put it on meat, you gotta have salt on both for flavour
So probs gonna be assa on prog for drakes
lets go dude
so it tastes good even tho it would taste good regardless if u didnt use so much salt
Even though that is a terrible example I gotta say that clapback goes pretty hard
ye it is fkn incredibly terrible hahahaha
oh another thing, yall ever have issues trying to pop the puzzle box when pressing it? reminds me of when u try to spam flying on dimensius flying intermission and u get delayed
you cant queue it so you have to do it after the gcd
yea the fact that you can't queue it is so lame
Had it in the wrong trinket slot today and my death mark didn’t go off
gotta spam it
ah you might be right, i got alot of /use 13 /use 14 on some stuff but ignored it but after rupture i spam the fk out of it but im probably just not waiting for entire GCD of rupture cuz i wana channel it IMMEDIATLY
Puzzle box is so fucking dogshitpissasswater and I will not accept another narrative
having the
/use 13
/use 14
on other abilities doesnt seem to bother cuz it doesnt even activate the box
me when i have to pool for 2 seconds
sick gameplay
it doesn't work with cast time trinkets
me when i have to channel puzzlebox for 2 seconds 
Don’t have trinkets on abilities other than CDs with macros
the little noise it makes is funny
me when i go to Algether academy, tank pulls all adds into one spot, pop Lust, and im there "HOLD ON GUYS, ILL BE OUT IN A MINUTE, i just gotta open this box real quick!"
it feels so awkward
You just don’t hit them tbh
"oh shiet will i die in the middle of all this mobs pulled, i cant see the ground, ah fuck it, ill pop the box to start the pull"
ye i didnt have a better example of a place where you only have lil ads like that to hit, on that example the best outcome is to just hit the boss ye. others adressed the issue, thanks tho
wait, theres a noise?
yep
loggin in rn
oh i got another very newbie question that doesnt really affect what i need to do. are there abilities from other classes that can empower 1 ally? like choosing a dps to boost instead of raid wide pump
augmentation evokers and power infusion
sound is fkn wack..
figured
saw this before and imagined it had to do with sm like that
aug doesn't do that
99% of the time it's receiving more power infusions than 1 priest could give
it's to prevent people stacking priests onto a single target
wow
can i see it easily on a warcraft log? who got buffed and who didnt?
buff tab i suppose
yeh
i dont see anything crazy
If you receive more than 1 PI every 2 minutes your logs get invalidated
it's a 2 min cd
Due to excessive externals
OH i disregarded that one cuz i thought it was self buffs
i see
fk
so if im having a perfect run i can be fkd from logs if a priest likes me too much huh
2 priests
touché 🥂
need to tone down my charisma
But if at any point in the log you get a second PI within 2 minutes the log gets invalidated
in regards to that ability, the power infusion
thats a buff to 1 person every 2min?
2 priests picked that guy from everyone else on the 2min coldown?
thats, pretty unlucky
Generally yes
Its on the priest + 1 person of their choosing with sun priestess
If they dont pick a player it picks one at random
i didnt get shiet on that one
i got to go character by character to see "why is this guy higher dps than me?"
assassination isn't really a pi target
haste works wonders lately idk
going above mastery doesnt sit right for me
but u know best than anyone
how is ur 2nd atributes distribution looking like lately?
Slander ill take my PIs thank you
like mine personally or what
ye urs
damn u got speed from a piece
I do
"Who are you???"
"Im you but gayer"
🥀
🥀
yeh I'm not in line for the gayes

heroic for a while

me with champ puzzle box and champ rep trinket
I was given a guidon too
my true power is withheld
why would assa dream be dead
i wonder if people would be happy if box got nerfed to the ground. even tho it would lower many dps they wouldnt have to use it anymore
I like it personally
you can just play a different trinket it's chill
I like it ALOOOT for raids, not for m+
Cause im setup to be subtle
you dont understand bro
reject subtlety
embrace assassination
my speed is higher than my crit
you have less than 13% crit?
this is why i cant
ah
coarse leather was going crazy on old content so i got full speed gear with speed enchants and went skinning haunted pigs on Kultiras, i was so fast dude
dont get this take. fussing about individual stats doesn't mean anything, but I dont see anything against simming to tune your character 
im still on the part where everytime i think of taking it out i see that BIG number and i go Holy shiet better leave it be

I had a Priest ask if I wanted this, should I?
I don't trust priests
as it should be
my heroic beloren locked in, were you sick yesterday or what
I havent raided yet this reset 
oh i got another nice question. if u had to make a perfect team for m+ what would be the classes+specs of the other members to make the run perfect or better yet, what would you love having the most for tank,healer+2dps for ur m+ run
I will take them all back tommorow 
I need to fix chim
but uh
don't think it's happening
adds explode

and we kill too fast for 2nd execute cd
it's kinda doomed
you got rank 10 tho
look at this guy
out of 50 btw
next time tank the beam instead of wasting time running from it for full dps
what remains of the assassination population
i have no clue how that works fully yet
the valiant warriors
you were the chosen one.....
i see like 85 parse but when i filter for assa rogues of same range of ilvl and team size im on top
chimmy
diabolical. blame my spriest
wtf
LMAO he got it
sending kapo to the penis explosion chamber 
I will maintain that the PI isnt enough to make the dps gap 
that guy griefed me on HC
he was paid off to spam PI on me and remove my log
please do
yeah, you know what is enough?
this shit

MY COOLDOWNS
lmfao
get cut off nerd
ive no doubt we will kill it much faster ourselves this reset so I may need to cook alittle
Based on your name do you take or give backshots
give
like we kill faster, how do I even recover a lost cd
Ask daylea to break the game and cast timeskip on you
can i add that buff tab to when im checking a guild run log? + button doesnt seem to do anything
i wana see who got buffed without individual inspection
my primary strategy was to hold vanish for first add set and snapshot it with the last 2 seconds of puzzle box and spread to the ghosts, I omitted the envenom in the opener setup to squeeze things in
you can just go to the buff tab without clicking on someone
that would explain your larger deathmark first usage
yeah I was thinking about that but I'm second group
that sucks, i dont know most abilities im looking at 🥀
unluck
well the only external is power infusion
what else would you need to see
perhaps the priest forgot to go down with the monk omega lul
though why anyone would see an assa rogue and PI them is beyond my mortal reckoning
oh forget it, thought there would be some more pilling stuff like shouts to close players or smth
ill look into that
forbidden aug PI
nah its legit just pi, all the aug stuff is removed from logs
for being the chosen one and all, I didnt get shit in my vault. blizzard doesnt want to see the rise of assa
so if you play mythic raid as assa is it how hard to get into top 100?
top 100 of what
ah i see how it is now
logs
should be pretty easy, there's less than 100 assa rogues on most mythic fights

got pretty solid assa gear atm so need to give it a try
do it
who would u consider to be best option here to use power infusion 3x
it was used on Miuw
3x
playing a spec with only 90 players makes it pretty easy to be top 100
i hate mages
big if true
you pretty much always PI the windwalker monk, and if you don't have one of those you use it on a shaman, hunter, or mage
frost mage looks fun, i saw some streamers on it. spamming the ice darts thingy nonstop and sometimes a big dart or a ice beam, thats about it. they had alot of time to move around and look around
i havent tried other classes so i know little
but if that windwalker isn't getting PI, your priests are actually trolling
me when my pi goes randomly in heroic
So pappous there shouldve been the one recieving it
mages always have one class thats just having a great time
liukang
that's the windwalker ain't it?
theres alot of stuff happening near tanks in terms of damage and mechanics this season for m+ and raids, kinda hate it when i pan my camera around and see the mages and warlocks chilling in 1 spot
ranged will constantly try and gaslamp you that being ranged is the hardest role to play
ye im just impressed even tho he is lower than frost mage he would be the best usage
and just sit in one fucking spot for the entire fight
you know who takes best use of haste, im learning it rn
are they extremely more squishy than us?
WW. Whispyr said a few times
mages will try and gaslamp you into thinking they are squishy when they have the same + more defensives than us
when i hear "ok guys pop ur denfensives" i think "pop what bro? i only got feint and rest was already used trying to survive melee"
mages went from having like 8 defensives and were pruned down to 3 or 4
alter time
ice block
mirror image
frost barrier (?)
cheat death best def
yeah I mean windwalker is like twice the value of pi compared to the next spec
whispyr I am in possession of forbidden deathstalker knowledge that may make it similar to FB in simulations, should I keep it removed from the light of day?
so
i though mirror images dosen't give DR anymore?
lets hear it
(i have no idea)
well it is more that as far as I can tell, the sim is bugged rather than knowledge, but you may be aware of it
speaking of mages, i saw on Beloren new boss they would put 2 circles close together and a mage would stay on both and pop the spell that makes them frozen
precise killer does not seem to be simming at all
idk if thats gona be meta mechanic, havent seen much of Beloren strats
7% away from 2/7m
??????
this knowledge was brought to you by the ulria spreadsheet
thanks ulria
Shut up reaaaally quick mate for the love of god
Please don’t do this to me
take a look at an equal talent build with DS and FB
I like flipping my coins
they have the exact same crit dmg for certain abilities and melees
its like, 5% in ST or something
cmon add to the conversation, enlighten me
ahahahha
as deathstalkers number one hater, lets forget about it shall we
forget about what
i was hit over the head
and dont remember anything in the last 3 minutes
I did 😄
I dont think simc likes crit damage increases at all. I noticed the same bug, if it is even bugged, for demonology warlock in TWW with the crit damage talent that no one took bc it simmed less. turns out it was the most optimal ST talent after I did some napkin math, so I was the only one who took it that tier
could there be like a wowhead post about deathstalker at some point?
this is what i meant, instead of having people soak they place them together and have a mage frozen in the middle
Return to deathstalker meta raaaaaaaa

ill clip it, they always do that
perhaps I am misunderstanding then. Here is my melee hits with fatebound and DS
the crit avg appears to be the same or slightly less on DS, but this cannot be the case?
Why not
heads buff
Nice head
could be
where does crafting an offhand dagger rank in prio? would I be better getting mythic arcanoweave wrists?
maybe its just weirdly equal to precise killer in overall damage increase?
cause its basically the same with other abilities as well
Like you can calculate the damage increase from the normal hits to the crits
only 1 in middle instead of team soak to its respective color
its always 1 dagger and 1 wrist first, then you go for what would improve you the most this week i suppose for 3rd craft. I crafted feet even tho i wanted legs but legs are like 50k on mats, alot crafted belt, some crafted a ring
whispyr got a guide on that
I have 272 arcano wrists, was thinking of recrafting
any1 knows how they got 1 in middle soaking both on this video?
did you craft with hero crests?
do it
u only need 1 person to soak both? its not color specific or does he pop some defensive?
Theyre immuning
oh
Cloak/turtle/iceblock
i guess thats another mage skill i dont know bout
i only knew iceblock, thanks
whats yall toughts between being on a social vs raid guild? i kinda want to have people more excited bout raids and perfecting gameplay instead of going for 50000000 achievements and house decor but at same time, having all this constant pings for raid day and pressure to perform on a raid intensive guild sounds like a job and not a game. how yall ended up?
no better to ask than veterans that went through multiple phases of guild and drama
Game without raid would be done next week for me
the fact that you are here, discussing strategy/optimisation to me shows that your current guild environment doesn't match what your goals are.
pressure to perform is good to a certain point because it keeps people accountable
Game with raid takes entire season
damn
read me like a book
your experience is not uncommon
🤝
if i never got to play this game or buy midnight i would be playing crimson desert right now 🥀
i think fuu does that
but he's also playing with his girlfriend
so there are other goals than just beating the bosses quickly
ye thats perfect
lets go boys
too easy
nice one
Thats a lotta words and im not reading them but my only advice to you is think of your goals for the game and find a guild that matches those and ignore all other outcomes
end of the day if youre not having fun in your enviroment where the goal is to have fun, you need to change your enviroment
that goes for more than just wow
what addon u use to show ilvl on gear window and decimals on ilvl, i know a few but ones i tested made some bugs ocasionaly
ill take this week to really consider that
probably enhanced QoL
do you guys ever have your combo points just dissapear from ur UI
in windruner spire yes
nope i use the blizzard resource showing on middle
happens to me in raid, with blizzards ui lol
goes away at the start and then comes back randomly later in the fight
u might need to reset ur whole ui and presets lol
doesnt happen every time, only happened like 3-4 times so far
ye but its annoying you lol
if it was me i would get advancedinterfaceoptions and test stuff or spend hours disabling addons to find a culprit
if u have any other Ui addon other than minimap adjustment alot of weird stuff can happen and bugsack spam lol
it's blizzards UI tho, im not using an addons for CPs
no other UI addons
blizzards has been good for a bit now
Puzzlebox on G is crazywork
its 1 click and done, got more important stuff to have close
G is kick
thats V
for me hehe
its a league of legends and Black desert online player trying to adapt to wow
im pretty hard wired to bdo way of keybinds
where u put ur kingsbane?
only bad thing about my layout would be that i have mutilate and envenom on same side so that means i cant move right, only left and up while mousing over them both with indicator BUT considering we have 1 sec GCD between casts, its irrelevant, otherwise i would change by now
i use the interactive targetting "holding right click" for trash and i click on casters otherwise
i use platynator with alot of information to know who i should target
and for kick i use the macro to mouseover target but it doesnt work well if u move cuz nameplates overlap and move around based on proximity so i end up clicking the caster for a instant kick without fail
Not on K for Kingsbane, not a true Enthusiast
you have 10?

one day ill have a mouse with 12 buttons and i wont use a keyboard anymore
I play league so I have some leaguey keybinds
Q, E, R, F and T are my main abilities
flash on D or F?
I flash on D because I am not a caveman
mah man, u passed
🤝
do u have pinky on tab or on Q?
In league?
ye
I actually have no idea. I don't think I Q with pinky?
some do Tab/q/w/e some do qwer
i do qwer for more range for 12345 items
out of topic anyhow
fill man, its same map over and over

to win tho, mid/jungle
to have fun? top/adc
to be fair, pinky on q is good for range to potions 12345 BUT if u are a cntrl player to upgrade abilities and u played shooter games on pc u probably got pink on tab so its easy to move to cntrl+qwer. i played destiny 1 while u guys were banging csgo so i skipped that
@balmy condor at what level key would you suggest swapping to Deathstalker vs Fatebound? Fate is certainly easier, but i kinda learned to play around deathmark last exp pack, so at what level would you say its viable again?
isnt fatebound the answer all the time?
this is from whispyr page
yep im aware lol
I don't think you ever swap deathstalker with how its tuned atm
m+ tuning is very relaxed for dps for some reason
you're more likely to just giga overkill your prio target
maybe that changes at like +18 or +19
but like
top 100 rogues on m+ almost always are fatebound
why?
why what
its not like u are moving from pack to pack quickly on high keys, why u want the shadowstep spam
i dont see reason to take that
shadowstep kick target in africa
shadowstep back
it's a utility talent
ohhhhh shiet
the other one sucks anyway
true true
i usualy shadowstep>kick>sprint back SUPER FAST
but that shadowstep x2 for kick seems kinda cool
i need to try that
damn they prefer 1 point into fatal concotion than doomblade
thats news to me too
alright lads, learned alot, ill be going to bed. goodluck on reclear whispyr
Hey fellas. I have heard that assassination is very bad on anything not pure single target. Is thst true? I kinda like the rework and was excited to get it to 3k m+ rating
You can get 3k on any class
getting 3k is trivial
kinda slapps in M+, its not good a burst cleave
its not very bad, its just not meta. we doing big dam!
yea damage is pretty nuts ST and in keys
Ah i read on the competitive wow subreddit that sin does no aoe
WHAT
what xd
I think maybe stay off Reddit xd
just no super fast burst, so like if ur with classes that have big AoE burst, they will likely take the top dps spots on pulls like htat
but over all
crushing it
Realistically, the spec is fine. Could it be doing more? Yes. Could Blizzard have better balanced spreading two bleeds while many other specs can just aoe at free will? yes
They'd likely bonk bleeds on the head if you spread them faster
Alright good to know. Cheers all!
Spread them fast enough before burst classes kill most of the adds 
Spec good
should I be pure ST?
@spice spire put this on your fridge
queen shit
big 
I'm coming for that ass
Didn't finish council but this is going on the fridge
not if I come first
or I'll come for yours afterwards (?
human centipede type shit
did not get close to Whispyr's booty on Belo. Booty-less
114 on salad is crazy tho
that's insano pad
WOAH its not pad
I got lucky for a few pulls and had no mechanics and I think a major add person died so they lived longer
you show them
and we wiped once
bozo pug tank tried to ff
netherblast went off while i was getting yoinked by the garg
breakdown btw
this is from the 1 public kill
doesn't seem like its that bad
would probably want to drop the razor wire for a fatal conc point
but shouldn't make much of a difference
both super low value
ALWAYS
every other pull I was 90-100k
yeah
We have a few people who just cannot do the colors
it's kinda insane
we struggled a bit
definitely going to post this without context later
no context needed king
i tried all 3 rogue specs on paladins and my best pull was like 138k
meanwhile hunters are doing 210k dps
like were actually wiping to the dmg check because we're 5% off so now we just sit the shit classes and play more hunters
I feel like ass pumps on council? 3x bleeds for one CT is pretty huge
Its not marksman level but it feels good to play
it does not pump
Problem is that all 3 rogue specs have had their cleave nerfed significantly
Caustic doesn’t carry you anymore and bleeds just ain’t good enough
and atrophic is good but just not necessary so its the first thing you drop
the only class im beating is an ele shaman lol
have you considered joining a less competitive guild?
xd
My guild is struggling to clear H and I am looking real good







