assassination

[humble verge]

im gonna run away from bench next week

https://tenor.com/view/chiikawa-run-running-run-away-gif-11523384820060869343

[pliant remnant]

no you're not

[misty holly]

is Eternal Voidsong chain any good for us? (Alleria neck)

[sacred oyster]

sim it

but just look at the stats, is it crit haste/mast? if so, then yeah. ideally heavier on crit side.

if its better than what you have now, use it. if you get a new neck in future with diff stats you think are better, sim it at an equal item level comparison, as upgrading a new neck to same level as current is free

[normal mist]

The think part is questionable

We just let the bot decide

[sacred oyster]

i dunno if i get a 100 vers/30 mas piece when i have a 100 crit/30 haste, im not really needing to sim to know that isnt gonna win lol.

unless theres some other meta consideration like 'this will be your 4th set piece'

[normal mist]

Maybe swapping your enchants and gems around and that neck is now better by 0.1%

And people love wasting gold on gems and enchants for that 0.1% for some reason

[sacred oyster]

if that was the case, youd just swap the enchants on the crit/haste lol

[normal mist]

Idk, would need a sim to confirm

[fallow canopy]

Why think when robot can do that for me

[normal mist]

I just love to fight the idea behind feelscraft vs simcraft

Especially when people say "x streamer said..."

[analog field]

I mean it is not just haste mastery crit

It says to pick the dagger with vers mast

[normal mist]

What does

Wowhead list?

[analog field]

the robot

Also the list but who cares

[sacred oyster]

does that dagger have a higher base wep dmg?, i suspect so since its raid tier

[analog field]

Daggers have all the same dmg

[normal mist]

A lot of people because they can't understand the concept

[normal mist]

Unfortunately

[waxen oyster]

base damage

[analog field]

This is not a thing anymore

[waxen oyster]

what is this vanilla

lmfao

[sacred oyster]

damn are all items literally identical except secondary stats by item level?

[normal mist]

Yes

[sacred oyster]

ive only returnd to game since being away for 15-16 years lol.

so yes classic was last when i played 😛

[waxen oyster]

that was like 20

[normal mist]

Everything is more streamlined now

[waxen oyster]

👴

[analog field]

i mean it is stupid to have base dmg different on weapons

[waxen oyster]

15 years ago was cata

[analog field]

cause then only one is good

[analog field]

i would argue it was wotlk but yeah

[sacred oyster]

well, if its from the hardest raid boss, thats a reasonable reward. higher challenge, higher reward

[waxen oyster]

2011 was cata

[radiant otter]

wrath of the lich king came out in 2008

[normal mist]

Yeahhhh you have a point, that did happen in DF for SOME weapons

[sacred oyster]

yeah when i played in 2010 i didnt even do any endgame, i quit quick lol. so was pretty short lived

[normal mist]

Some weapons could have a bigger Ilvl than others iirc

[analog field]

it actually is december 2010 i thought that was like wotlk

[normal mist]

Like bow from first raid

[sacred oyster]

well midnight is introducing this voidforged stuff now that can upgrade stuff even higher now right? wonder what thats gonna entail to earn

[waxen oyster]

CN started this trend iirc

where sire/slg loot was 7 ilvl above the rest of the raid

[normal mist]

Thanks for reminding me

Yeah it was stupid

[waxen oyster]

then i think df they reserved it for "special" items.

[slim pebble]

Jesus I am old now

[waxen oyster]

like the ssark cloak

midnight feels like a content patch

not an expansion

[buoyant herald]

Kinda feels no win to me, if you make sweeping changes people complain that you’ve upset the applecart, make smaller changes and now it’s just a content patch

[haughty pewter]

I don't think I can roll a better vault.

[buoyant herald]

Need the freeze item function like with the trading post 😂

[haughty pewter]

exactly, kill chimerus again and take puzzle box

[somber sparrow]

trinket from the M+ section would be much harder to come by that's for sure

[fallow canopy]

holy fuck

[haughty pewter]

the tier gloves had leech on them too

[thorn thorn]

What was it like back then grandpa

[waxen oyster]

No idea

[stuck lodge]

am I crazy or am I doing less dmg this week

like aoe pulls in M+ where I would normally hit like 200k+

I am not seeing those numbers

and I have a new dagger that is 289 and enchanted, so I was expecting numbers to go up

[haughty pewter]

I think we played sub-hemmorage instead. I was there Gandalf, 3000 years ago

[strange onyx]

Hej friends

[strange onyx]

Did you put it in OH?

[frosty cedar]

helloing skoop

[strange onyx]

Any grats to Bosnia in chat?

[frosty cedar]

who

[strange onyx]

🇧🇦

Qualified for the football World Cup, beat out Italy

[frosty cedar]

[stuck lodge]

nah, 289 goes MH, crafted is OH

[frosty cedar]

secret blizzard hotfix nerf after they discovered how op assa is perhaps

[strange onyx]

Just confirmation bias then, you only notice because you thought you would do more damage

[stuck lodge]

I just want someone to do M+ and let me know if its a me issue or what

[sand otter]

need advice from the council.. sim says trinket. currently running a blue offhand

[strange onyx]

Do you have 4 piece?

Or hero slot in chest?

[sand otter]

two piece and champ chest

about to do LFR hoping to get lucky on vorasius

[waxen oyster]

buy a pvp conquest offhand

if you're down bad

its champ track

[sand otter]

wondering how long that would take to get. forgot about that honestly.

[strange onyx]

Wait for that squeeze in a normal run if u can

And take pants if no drop

[sand otter]

yeh its tonight and thur. got into LFR so we shall see.

[strange onyx]

Unless you got tier pants

[sand otter]

tier is gloves/helm

[waxen oyster]

well easiest way was to just have warmode on and collect crates

that are 60 conq a pop

[sand otter]

ok ty, ill look into that.

[strange onyx]

How many catalyst charges?

[sand otter]

the tier converters? i have 1

[strange onyx]

If you can get 4 set get that asap, then catalyst charges drop from all content. Looking at your vault the most important going forward is to farm hero track from m+ dungeons

[sand otter]

yeah i do my best, have a hard time getting into M+

[strange onyx]

Get 4 set, pug your own keys

[keen spruce]

https://klipy.com/gifs/present-them-mr-garrison

[sand otter]

no luck on LFR Vorasius

hopefully normal tonight will bring better luck

[stuck lodge]

are the delve 11 mythic crests capped per normal? so no reason to do them if you are grinding 9+ keys?

[drifting cloud]

basically, its just faster way to get a few crests

[devout cove]

No 4pc for me 😉

[buoyant herald]

Was better when you can pull in 40 crests in 3 delves in 30 mins last season, I think the earn rate is much lower now?

[devout cove]

How usefull is the 4pc?

I pull 103.5K dps in a key atm

[viscid spear]

I know I should've had it made last week

Now to get the 80 Myth crests for the bracers

[devout cove]

Its easy to get 80

[strange onyx]

Bit mid, but legit no downside to get it

[devout cove]

Yeah I thought as much

[wind terrace]

Not super important but this page was outdated

@balmy condor ❤️

[balmy condor]

How the fuck

Okay

[sand elm]

[devout cove]

Idk whats worse getting declined or spamming 13s and having them brick before the first boss

[viscid spear]

Doing a Skyreach and the tank pulls all the mobs from the start of the instance to the first boss' stairs

[devout cove]

I wish

Imagine the DPS

The always stop just before the stairs

[sand elm]

i got into a 13 nexus point. tried to bl the first pull. tank died, people left

[viscid spear]

Well this was a higher key and the tank couldn't handle it

[devout cove]

What level?

I've only done 13s on skyreach

Timed*

[viscid spear]

It was a 9 earlier in the week

[devout cove]

oh

[viscid spear]

Monk tank tried to do it, got mulched as soon as he got all the adds and stopped at the stairs

[devout cove]

This is the average lust pull I see in my runs

[haughty flicker]

no repel cast goes off

not a real skyreach run

[zealous moth]

fellow rogue players

is DMS: Hunt with aracnoweave still bis for crafts?

archon shows this as the most used

and idk if that none is suposed to be hunt or what

[balmy condor]

yep

[zealous moth]

ah, cool

thanks whisp

[gusty prawn]

so i cant get a ring for the life of me. any suggestions on which one to get made?

[balmy condor]

wdym get made

[gusty prawn]

get a ring crafted

[buoyant herald]

Assume you mean fancy embellish one or basic one?

Probably just basic since bis embellishments are elsewhere

[gusty prawn]

ahh true

[devout cove]

I cant get my third ringslot filled

probably bc my character is female...

[balmy condor]

you only have 2 fingers?

what happened to the other 8 fingers

[strange onyx]

How was the vault Bucko?

[balmy condor]

or perhaps a nose ring

[jade abyss]

Imagine we are able to equip 10 rings and have to farm it

[balmy condor]

we boutta find out I just sat down

[devout cove]

Gl

[strange onyx]

I send you my blessing

[ember shoal]

i have a maybe dumb question, i'm new to rogue in midnight and i see a lot of people upset about sin rogue and i'm curious what it had before that makes the new design so bad

[strange onyx]

They are mostly annoyed by tuning

[buoyant herald]

I think people are just upset it’s tuned low atm

Design is good and generally seen as positive?

[strange onyx]

Rogue gameplay wise is in the healthiest it has been in years for all 3 specs

[devout cove]

I feel like tuning is fine tbh. My damage is pretty competative in the PvE content I've been doing. I'm assuming they're only weak in higher keys?

[meager latch]

yeah i think it is the tuning. I enjoy sin the most by far fro keys but sub just out performs by a lot it seems like

[devout cove]

but like for 13s and 14s I do very well

[strange onyx]

I haven’t had this much fun with Outlaw since combat

[sand elm]

yay

[devout cove]

gz

now for 13

[strange onyx]

Same with sub in HFC

[sand elm]

im 1/8 already so working on it!
i need 1 more 13 to hit 3k rating

[strange onyx]

Good job, proud of you

[sand elm]

[devout cove]

Almost in the club

[sand elm]

not playing sub either

cos i aint no bitch

[devout cove]

Same

I'm an Ass man

[sand elm]

[tame willow]

am I just coping by being encouraged by this lol

[fleet pagoda]

assassination's always been a good boss dam spec. execute cranks

well maybe not always... always as in recent times I guess

[viscid spear]

https://tenor.com/view/billy-gunn-entrance-wwe-the-great-american-bash-wrestling-gif-15411391739842023991

[devout cove]

Dont show blizz that graph, show them this one

[balmy condor]

that's where we been at brochacho

[frosty cedar]

assa feels great to play and im blasting noob meta specs in my raid at least. honestly no dooming I think we kinda good and slept on its just no one is playing it

[devout cove]

We can all collectively tank our parses so that we get buffed anyway

[rugged basalt]

Congrats proud of u

[devout cove]

Someone else can start

[frosty cedar]

the assassagenda??

[devout cove]

not me

Assgate

[rugged basalt]

Don’t tell me to do that

Idk how much more I can sandbag

[devout cove]

No we all need to do it, I just want someone else to start it

[rugged basalt]

In all seriousness I’m having a ton of fun, and I hope it gets better in s2 when I’m home

[coral ibex]

my guildie that got craft bug scammed got mail from blizz with 80 myth crests just now

and they even adjusted it so the non-capped crests he spent also got refunded

[shy sorrel]

Is there a set rule to when to let apex talent fall off for the energy regen?

Or is it just let it happen when it happen

[frosty cedar]

when you wont overcap on energy by waiting

[coral ibex]

at 80 if you wont cap energy from it

[frosty cedar]

other than that its a bit feely. theres some situations you might want to keep slamming envenom anyway such as if there is cleave which is about to dissappear shortly

[shy sorrel]

So it isn't as strict as I thought it was?

[frosty cedar]

well, from what I understand, actually playing it perfectly by letting it drop is, I think, a 1.5% or so dps increase?

its not actually that much energy

[sand elm]

[frosty cedar]

you lose out on the envenom extra damage from already having an envenom up, and the 5% damage from that talent below it, I forgot its name

it is strictly better in a vacuum to let it drop if you wont overcap otherwise, but there are situations where it is better to keep slamming envenom , its all about energy efficiency and getting the most damage out of your energy as you can

[sand elm]

mine usually naturally lines up with when i have to reapply rupture

unless im in like bloodlust or buffs where u can just spam

[shy sorrel]

yeah kinda same, it falls of when I go to reapply rupture and garrotes

[sand elm]

only exceptions are when ur in enough aoe that u have infinite energy or under bloodlust

or if by some miracle u have PI

[frosty cedar]

yeah there will be times where it will naturally fall anyway when you are refreshing rupture, if you dont get lucky with seal/deal fate procs

[floral oar]

Are sims for assasination working properly at the moment? I'm simming 10k lower on assa compared to outlaw

[balmy condor]

yep, that sounds about right

[rugged basalt]

I be naturally falling off it’s generally nice

[loud niche]

Any crazy trinkets that are gonna be broken from timewalking this time around?

[viscid spear]

https://tenor.com/view/chiikawa-dance-happy-u-uwa-wa-uwa-gif-12488488499303603624

[humble verge]

https://tenor.com/view/chiikawa-run-running-run-away-gif-11523384820060869343

[storm forum]

can i take poison bomb over something? 2nd point in lethal dose maybe?

[humble verge]

is battlenet taking a shit?

[warped moon]

do u like my mog please 🙂

[humble verge]

[keen spruce]

https://klipy.com/gifs/da-fuck-the-fuck

[warped moon]

jk its this 🙂 blizz ppls fix ud f torch

my head oon fire

[wraith knot]

Gabby stop putting your hair on fire, sincerely Silvermoon fire department

[humble verge]

wtf

EU maintenance lasted 30 minutes or less

im in already

[sand elm]

usually the case outside of when they extend it

[shell crater]

When’s the reset? An hour right?

[gray hazel]

For mythic voras, are we just not swapping to the adds anymore?

[balmy condor]

never did

[gray hazel]

lol, sounds good.

[viscid spear]

Swap to adds? Is this new tech?

[stuck lodge]

anyone else experiencing lower dmg in M+? idk if its the affixes or what but I am doing less dmg

[sand elm]

1 hour 12 minutes

[stuck lodge]

maybe its the loss of the mastery buff? idk

[hazy sundial]

Is there a cap to haste? I’ve noticed some top assa rogues stopping at 500-600 haste and going in full on crit with 1000+?

[balmy condor]

they're simming themselves like everyone else

there is no cap

but at some point you'll just want other secondaries because they're multipliers

[hazy sundial]

what makes crit so lucrative stat? It’s always been mastery+crit?

[coral ibex]

these are my stats. they're notable in that they are mine

[hazy sundial]

Im at about 800 crit 600 haste 600 mastery

[balmy condor]

dashing scoundrel and seal fate are good

[fallow canopy]

i grew these bad boys myself, they are very special since I got them since I was little

[coral ibex]

dude those are some stats

look at those

hard stuck chim reclear bc people can't kick fears xd wtf

need 2 rogues i think

2 kidney shots is bis?

[keen spruce]

unnnnaaaa

[humble verge]

https://tenor.com/view/chiikawa-run-running-run-away-gif-11523384820060869343

[misty holly]

Dang just looked at tonights heroic logs. There are only 12 other assassination rogues in my ilevel range that I'm competing with lol.

This spec isn't popular, eh?

[humble verge]

nope

[balmy condor]

incredible

[humble verge]

A)UHASUH)ASHUASUHHA

HAHAHAHAHAHA

[sand elm]

u actual loot gremlin

[balmy condor]

I'm loot council

[fallow canopy]

nice shields

[lucid rune]

Do patchwerk sims matter when deciding between sub and sin for raid?

I consider myself better at sin, but sims say sub is like 10% better with my gear

[coral ibex]

if you need boss dam you play assa if you need aoe for shitter spawns play sub

[lucid rune]

Double berserkers rage? Or switch chants per fight like a boss

[sand elm]

both enchants work out about the same

[lucid rune]

Thank the LORD

I’ll optimize for sin then

[stuck lodge]

Is there any chance simbots is wrong sometimes? I just hit a training dummy testing which dagger is better mainhand, and the sim says it should be my 289 with the crafted off hand, but hitting the dummy has always had the crafted one mainhand winning out

[balmy condor]

ability damage is calculated from mainhand dagger dps

regardless of the sim or any testing

you are just straight up doing more damage with a bigger ilvl mainhand

[stuck lodge]

Yeah, that makes sense. Just not sure why the numbers are coming up better from the dummy the other way around

I've run it 3 times

Like swapped them and done a full 2min rotation

[balmy condor]

that will happen when there's 12-15% dps swings purely due to rng

[low hare]

@balmy condor is there ever a reason to craft legs? i have 5 peice and it would be my biggest upgrade i think, or should i just craft a ring to keep that slot open for catalyst charges?

[balmy condor]

you'd realisitically need to do like

100 dummy tests

and average them out

[balmy condor]

can craft anything, legs are fine

you're going to replace it eventually anyway

[low hare]

rgr

[balmy condor]

so whatever is the short form gain

probably fine

[latent kernel]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[fallow canopy]

I feel like the lady from that viral tiktok with the square hole on L'ura prog

[sand elm]

cursed vault this week

[zinc frost]

@balmy condor how was your vault king

[balmy condor]

have vorasius dagger and myth legs

waiting for vorasius reclear to see which I'm taking

[coral ibex]

im jelly of ur myth legs

i took hands

[sand elm]

how we feeling about this belt

[ember condor]

is offhand dagger irrelevant or smth why is my myth chest simming more

[coral ibex]

look at how much main stat is on chest

vs a dagger

[balmy condor]

run that back my slime

what you talkin bout

[golden loom]

stinky stinky stinky, atleast I got a myth puzzlebox on my dh

[coral ibex]

i'd rather have legs than gloves

more stats

[golden loom]

guess I have to go from champ -> myth gloves

[coral ibex]

thats all

[balmy condor]

looking straight mythical

[coral ibex]

i had a stinker vault

[ember condor]

😭 😭

[zinc frost]

Zero trinkets in my vault very sadge

[sand elm]

thats what im thinking
its that or tier legs that i dont need

the belt gods graced me with a socket for siding with them

[humble verge]

WHAT IS THIS

https://tenor.com/view/chiikawa-run-running-run-away-gif-11523384820060869343

https://tenor.com/view/chiikawa-run-running-run-away-gif-11523384820060869343

[ember condor]

ew

[humble verge]

https://tenor.com/view/chiikawa-run-running-run-away-gif-11523384820060869343

[coral ibex]

myth wedding ring kinda nice

[haughty flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/chiikawa-run-running-run-away-gif-11523384820060869343

[humble verge]

https://tenor.com/view/chiikawa-run-running-run-away-gif-11523384820060869343

i aint marrying you nooj

[stuck lodge]

isnt that ring now bad? crit haste

[coral ibex]

i have 12% speed

why would crit haste be bad

[stuck lodge]

not* bad

seems like a snap keep

[humble verge]

https://tenor.com/view/chiikawa-run-running-run-away-gif-11523384820060869343

im playing sub

not assa

[stuck lodge]

wrong channel then friendo

[ionic elbow]

haste/mastery 2-set ring or haste/versa belt? probably the ring, right? 🤔

[humble verge]

nah

sub channel dont exist

i know nobody there

[stuck lodge]

come join the ass people

[humble verge]

https://tenor.com/view/rb-gif-15527342397963359737

ive always been here

[stuck lodge]

sub doesn't want crit haste though?

mastery?

[humble verge]

mastery haste yes

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/nKV4H1eb7vhUW6KByqs2KS

https://tenor.com/view/chiikawa-run-running-run-away-gif-11523384820060869343

[stuck lodge]

lol I'm like 10k dps behind you and higher item level. Gotta love it

[ember condor]

lol same

assa bruv

[humble verge]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/G6GioqMbMAMrWIJ.gif

[fallow canopy]

grats

[humble verge]

https://tenor.com/view/chiikawa-run-running-run-away-gif-11523384820060869343

[pure bridge]

Belo'ren is so cool, too bad he just has a tiny health pool, even in Heroic. Died before second Deathmark came up in egg phase.

[humble verge]

this is my best alt, i might honestly skip myth chest piece for head tier so i can get 4p..

[brave gyro]

Puzzle-box Prison 'till the End of Season 🥲

[golden loom]

taking hero items at this point

[humble verge]

i mean have to

unironically

[golden loom]

with 3 cata charges?

do you have 0 piece

[humble verge]

wdym 3

[old lily]

You should have 3 catalyst charges this week

If you hit 2k m+

[golden loom]

2 natty + 1 achievement

[humble verge]

ah yea

true

i just need to get hero head

:d

[royal hazel]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Stats
You will always get more accurate results using Raidbots Top Gear, as stat values will flucuate depending on gear and situation.

Agility (Item level) > Crit > Haste > Mastery >>>> Vers
The ratio between secondaries ends up being roughly 40/33/26/1

[ionic elbow]

just take the mythic item. 4p comes when it comes. most guild members have 4p so you should get it in this week's heroic clear.

gearing is longer process than first weeks, and you aint replacing that mythic chest for the rest of the season

we are doing shit dps anyways before buffs so not having 4p is a good excuse for us

I have 1 tier piece currently. but I should get one from raid and I should hit 2k m+ this week for one extra charge

[hearty junco]

do we have a haste break like sub has (18%)

[balmy condor]

no

[hearty junco]

i have not played assa this season but planing on trying it in mythic raiding, seems we have a lot of boss dmg whereas sub is mostly padding on useless adds

[severe sparrow]

ok how important is juggling the mark properly in keys? obviously important but i decided to try a one off 10 as sin and oof tank level dps

i am terrible at tracking it without my old plater

[hearty junco]

any pointers you could give to mys sim on things i should change?

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/enoaZ9vnQDkjQJmtbQPX43

[zinc frost]

Play fatebound and enjoy yourself, better to wait until .5 until you can move it around

[hearty junco]

what angle my fellas

[balmy condor]

reclear mythic then take the dagger if it doesn't drop or take something else if it does

[shell plaza]

ring, the light one

[hearty junco]

thanks, that was my take, but feels reassuring a purple namer thinks similiar

[balmy condor]

I wouldn't take that

has no crit

you'd need to find some insane crit somewhere else on your gear

[shell plaza]

the other void trinket

that combo simms so good for me that the pit ring i got with crit haste was only better on 289 mythic

[balmy condor]

the ring set?

[shell plaza]

yes

[balmy condor]

weird

cause that shit does no dam

0.4%

[shell plaza]

the most ive seen it was 0.6

[balmy condor]

yeh...

it ain't great

it's also full st

doesn't aoe

[shell plaza]

yep

[waxen oyster]

its ok on sub

since all the stats have value

[severe sparrow]

oh shit im gonna be honest i must have misread the guide

i swapped to sin mid raid tonight cuz apparently im just as trash at pruned sub in raid as i was pre-prune sub so i came back home

but didnt really actually look at anything cuz the gang wanted keys immediately after

i feel like a fool

[vague narwhal]

ok so
iam not the best player because of some restrictments
but i try to go for my first 3k rio this season as assa
am i doing something wrong when my tank pulls in higher keys from group to group without combat skipping?
and 2 min on vanish?
i cant restealth all the time right?

[shell plaza]

many tanks wont let you :/

[vague narwhal]

yeah but there is "no other way" to stealth right?

[cunning needle]

you can press vanish

!restealth

no restealth command yet

[golden loom]

well restealth is also not super important anymore

[vague narwhal]

yeah ofc i can vanish but it has 2 min cd

yeah but i only get get imprioved garroth out of steakth no?

[golden loom]

but idk most of the time regardless of what the tank does I can get restealths

[sand elm]

it sucks but if it keeps up then u can actually do half decent damage cos every1 else has their cd's used but we have consistent damage

its nice to restealth but we're not as fucked with chainpulls anymore

[vague narwhal]

okay

thank you

[severe sparrow]

i dont think it was even that fucked last season, no? like ideally the tank is chaining well and it numerically worked out either way?

i guess that's ideally though

it did feel kinda icky though

[ornate jetty]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1488547832062415010/drop_fixed.png

[jolly stirrup]

Do I take the weapon with haste versa?

[balmy condor]

it's a myth dagger

so yeah

[jolly stirrup]

I guess ye

[balmy condor]

doesn't matter what the stats on it are

[jolly stirrup]

[woeful wigeon]

dus any know someone who doing rogue coaching ?

[buoyant herald]

I don’t think I’ve seen a more vocal advocate for “your stats don’t matter” than Whispyr, you love to see it

[subtle tundra]

well your stats do matter

but daggers are low stats and ilvl matters much more

[buoyant herald]

Don’t you well ackchually me mate

[subtle tundra]

on neck/ring it does

quite a lot

[buoyant herald]

🙄

[subtle tundra]

erm

what i mean is

hurr durr

spec bad

dmg bad

where is the buff

[bitter horizon]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1488547832062415010/drop_fixed.png

[subtle tundra]

wait your spec sucks lol

[strange onyx]

Remember this guy?

this is him today

[golden loom]

fastest dungeon abandon of all time

[jade hemlock]

!guidon

[balmy condor]

[snow hamlet]

[zinc frost]

On the upside - not a whole lot of time wasted

[violet tusk]

Used all my luck on the rogue for the season. Got mythic dagger from raid last week and mythic puzzelbox from vault 😭🍾🙏

[analog field]

chest or guidon ?

Last 2 bosses seem a sub angle ?

[balmy condor]

if you're gonna play sub at all then probably guidon

[analog field]

I will play some sub for sure

also i guess the 20 myth crest save

[iron thorn]

are t2 embellishments just a scam?

or do crafters need them t2 to guarantee r5

[balmy condor]

I think so

they could just concentrate though

so like

"need" is a strong word

[iron thorn]

well

[wild basin]

is spending crests on the offhand worth it?

[analog field]

probably not

[iron thorn]

darkmoon hunt sims incredibly well at higher ilvls tho

[subtle tundra]

literally me

[warm vortex]

What one
The menacingly exhilarating tootsie or the accepting reciver

[static glacier]

Bruh 😂

[subtle tundra]

i receive the feet 🥴

[analog hedge]

april fool blue post

should have been rogues here

-20% dmg

[warm vortex]

Imagine if it tuns out being real

[analog hedge]

💀 💀

[warm vortex]

The furry tail transmog bis

[analog hedge]

city boy dungeon description fried me

[warm vortex]

I just read it lmao

[static glacier]

Woulda hit too close to home bro

It’s too soon

[analog hedge]

😔 😔 😔

[balmy condor]

wowhead got a dark mode as well

for those of you who haven't tried it yet

john wowhead approved

[slate nest]

i cant

[jolly stirrup]

Is it intended that this weeks affix doesnt work on trinkets?

It misalignes Box and CDs

[balmy condor]

yes

it's always done that

[jolly stirrup]

kk didnt know

[balmy condor]

giga shit affix

[jolly stirrup]

at first I thought i was going insane XD

[balmy condor]

all the xal affixes are trash

[jolly stirrup]

love the confetti

[calm solstice]

reading this channel makes me wonder if its even worth trying assa..

[balmy condor]

was pretty banger on beloren earlier

good spec

[jolly stirrup]

did you get trinket?

[balmy condor]

we got 3 shields and 2 plate hands

[jolly stirrup]

[balmy condor]

its fine though

we'll get it from mythic

we're failstacking

[viscid spear]

A 93 on H Vorasius

[main bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/uni-unico-uniuni-unicouniuni-unicouniuni3-gif-12798344145506295943

[hearty seal]

t2 is -10 required skill, maxed out crafters have about 5 pts slack, so they'd have to use up a +skill consumable or concentration to 5-star it

[crude wigeon]

are the orbs u have to cc still ingame

[balmy condor]

yep

that's next week

[crude wigeon]

Its so over

[balmy condor]

I mean

just do 12's

[crude wigeon]

My biggest opp

[balmy condor]

and they're gone

[crude wigeon]

Yea i kinda have 2 naked characters

[balmy condor]

.....pics?

[crude wigeon]

???????

AYO

[jolly stirrup]

[balmy condor]

who said that

[crude wigeon]

Blind only takes 1 orb now

[balmy condor]

even better

you can full ignore them

[crude wigeon]

truer

[balmy condor]

and then blame the rest of your party

[crude wigeon]

However If no1 breaks u can pad

[balmy condor]

yeah and then the orbs go off and you get blasted

isn't it like a 90% dr

[crude wigeon]

yea

free dopamine though

[rugged basalt]

gm

[little tulip]

at first i was worried about devour but then i read this

[rugged basalt]

i did like last weeks affix, this week's is meh

[balmy condor]

I just don't understand how we went from "mythic+ should make a dungeon feel different every time you go in, it's the most repeatable content"

to "here's a shit ass affix no one wants and also it goes away"

[hearty seal]

always did unless you targeted a mob nearby instead of an orb itself

[crude wigeon]

I was gaming ig

[rugged basalt]

lmao

wtf there are still raid groups going

[balmy condor]

wdym

isn't it almost noon in EU

[rugged basalt]

i play NA, sir

[balmy condor]

who's raiding in NA

[rugged basalt]

LA pug groups apparently

[balmy condor]

crazy work

[rugged basalt]

and now me

he didnt know 😭

[iron thorn]

Gotcha thanks

[young briar]

guys is eyes of the eagle enchant bait?

[balmy condor]

no, it's good

[young briar]

thank u bro

[strange onyx]

In the eyes of an eagle

[real pike]

No april fools pin???

What is even the point

[real pike]

[runic hinge]

Lmfao gottem

[viscid spear]

What a chump

[rugged basalt]

[runic hinge]

[grim jay]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-cat-catlaughing-laughingcat-point-gif-7577620470218150413

[real pike]

I hope you all step on a lego and the store has run out of your favourite Monster

[frosty cedar]

gm gamers

[grim jay]

I just stocked up because its on sale

Jokes on you

[real pike]

[viscid spear]

Joke's on you, I drink Red Bull

[grim jay]

Thats

Not something you should say out loud

[civic trellis]

im sorry to hear that

[subtle tundra]

the only fool in april is assa in mythic

meow.......

?

? ? ? ? ? ?

nice buffs btw

❤️‍🔥

[viscid spear]

Well I've drinking it now.
I drink Monster and Ghost

[grim jay]

Not buffing us was their April fools

They will do so next week

[subtle tundra]

i will do you next week

jumbo

https://tenor.com/view/stan-twitter-reaction-meme-funny-buckspendragon-silly-horse-gif-6816786761796475436

[grim jay]

Dont threaten me with a good time

[viscid spear]

Still have some gear to upgrade, and my trinkets are doodoo

[severe meadow]

Based

[jolly stirrup]

I AM FREE OF THIS DUNGEON

FINALLY

[warm vortex]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[frosty cedar]

not the ratsel box

[real pike]

anyone know the rough dps increase from the occlusion ring set bonus? if anything?

[plain thistle]

i can check my logs, but its low, less than 1% for sure

[real pike]

all I needed, thanks king

[cunning needle]

.4

[plain thistle]

vorasius it did 0.42%

[balmy condor]

Yeh it’s like 0.4-0.6 in pure st

And does zero aoe

[warm vortex]

It's good if the stats are good

The real value is that it allows you to proc the CoC neck

[plain thistle]

for sure changing it when I get a better ring than the haste/mastery one

[analog field]

Is a neck craft something we can think of ? Or not due to alleria neck maybe ?

[warm vortex]

Pvp one just came out

mast heavy with haste

[analog field]

cba doing pvp

[real pike]

isn't mast third in prio?

although all very close

except vers ofc

bun vers

[warm vortex]

Idk whatever the sim says

[balmy condor]

Coc neck… mmmpf

[warm vortex]

Match made in heaven

Jokes aside, have you seen the obscene damage it does
It does so little the reagular dps meter only tracks it when you inspect it

cause it's so low

[balmy condor]

Yeah people get really excited cause cantrip and ring set and oooohhhh

And then that shit does literal zdps

Which I don’t really get tbh

It’s a little like the assa tier

With “garrote applies poisons”

Like you could’ve just…. Not spent the time coding that

Why are we making set bonus rings and special items that do actually nothing

Surely the dev time could be better spent doing anything else

[warm vortex]

Tbf whispyr
This is when the neck only procs off the ring

[balmy condor]

Yeah when it procs off a shadow spec like sub

[warm vortex]

So something like Spriest would benefit a lot more
And it's more of a situation of

"If it has good stats and an equip effect, it's a nice bonus"

[balmy condor]

It’s like 0.3

[warm vortex]

True
But still, if it's attatched to already good stats it's a bonus 0.3% damage

I think they are just cooler than they are practical

[balmy condor]

Yah but it’s weird, no?

[warm vortex]

Oh in theory 100%

I mean

practice

not theory

[night iris]

Is there a reason that Drums is not on the wowhead trinket page?

[warm vortex]

I'm fuckin stupid

I think it's more like
Item normal = cool
item but with something else added = cooler

so people just go "ough" when they see it, assuming the proc will be more often than it actually is

[balmy condor]

I only really added the notable trinkets, probably just wasn’t on my list

[warm vortex]

Also quick check is it true that the weekly prey quests gives heroic crests past the cap

[grim jay]

Ring set isnt that bad actually

[balmy condor]

They changed that

[grim jay]

But the neck

[real pike]

hmmm my best simming vault is to take mythic tier hands (already have 4pc) but it's only slightly less of an upgrade to take the vers/haste neck and I feel like it's gonna be harder to get another myth neck than hands

any thoughts from some crinkle brains?

[warm vortex]

Wait really

[balmy condor]

Yeah

Was uncapped last week

Now it’s part of cap

[warm vortex]

Bruh

Now idk if i can upgrade my neck and legs to full heroic this week

[night iris]

Drum sims higher than heroic tier piece for me

[warm vortex]

Think imma be 20 crests short

[balmy condor]

See article

And my attached response

[grim jay]

Crafted neck aint bad

Tbh

[balmy condor]

What kind of comparison are we doing here

[real pike]

that is a lovely point

[grim jay]

Actually based. Wouldve been insanely annoying

[warm vortex]

Yea true

[night iris]

2 dogshit champion trinkets, champion tier helmet

[balmy condor]

If you’re going from really bad trinket to kinda bad trinket, that’s going to be better than going +6 ilvl on a tier

Makes sense to me

[grim jay]

I had 2 myth track trinkets that suck

Thats like

2 out of 6 of which 3 are good

[night iris]

Yeah thats is why I asked how bad is Drums

[balmy condor]

Yeh

Sims are accurate

[warm vortex]

Always listen to sims

Reject bis lists embrace the robort

[balmy condor]

Embrace robroy

[night iris]

If the drums are dogwater its not adviced to pick them still right

[balmy condor]

Depends on what your priorities are I guess

I wouldn’t pick either of the things you just mentioned because hero track gear is infinitely farmable from m+

[night iris]

Its an alt

[balmy condor]

But if that’s all you have

Then like

[night iris]

I didn't do m+ on it

[balmy condor]

I guess the helm? Dunno

[real pike]

If we didn't have bis lists how would I roll bis in raid

[balmy condor]

You can get better trinkets pretty chill

[night iris]

Delve vault is pretty weird

Like wth is this

[warm vortex]

[balmy condor]

That seems to be a really garbage prey trinket

Best

We love prey

[night iris]

2m cd for 74k dmg

[woeful wigeon]

3th craft mythic crest wast or not of not sec myth track dagger or neck/ring ?

[shut sand]

how do i put puzzlebox in macro with deathmark?

do i ahve to use castsequence macro?=

[warm vortex]

delicious

[frosty cedar]

holy LEECH

[real pike]

You don't because you can't

[frosty cedar]

[subtle tundra]

do you prefer them to be garbage or to be competitive for their ilvl/slightly better than others

my little boytoy

[shut sand]

castsequence tho

[frosty cedar]

please be terrible

farming prey trinkets sounds awful

its good they are bad

[night iris]

they can be bad

but this bad?

[balmy condor]

I’d prefer if prey wasnt a shit system

[real pike]

I haven't done a single prey

Happy with my decision

[subtle tundra]

i was told in beta that preys are cool

or something

[balmy condor]

Preys are world quests with affixes

[subtle tundra]

storming... mmmm

[night iris]

You do one worldquest

[subtle tundra]

bolstering mhmhmhmmm...

[night iris]

and gather traps

[balmy condor]

And you get rando ganked by island NPC’s

[subtle tundra]

mhmmmhmhmm island expeditions mmmmmmmmmmmm

[balmy condor]

Except then, right varas, hear me out

[frosty cedar]

and then the guy is like 'kill something for me' and you have to hunt down a squirrel to fan of knives before you explode

mega gameplay

[balmy condor]

Instead of getting ganked by the island expedition NPC’s while you’re doing world quests

People found out you can just click traps that spawn in the area

And farming the traps is way more efficient

But they’re shared

[grim jay]

Thought the same as we were talking about it the other day in our group, but its kinda more fun, idk why

[balmy condor]

So now when you’re clicking traps

[rugged basalt]

hero crests arent even uncapped anymore :( (from prey quest)

[balmy condor]

Random fucking hunters will call you slurs

[subtle tundra]

mmmmmmmm world quest pvp

[balmy condor]

For stealing your traps

[subtle tundra]

but instead of killing people you say slurs?

[frosty cedar]

peak

[plain thistle]

you can also just fly and step on a trap

they like that

[subtle tundra]

yes i think id win

[grim jay]

Idc as long as they dont spit in my mouth ngl

[crisp pine]

That's why u do prey in war mode

[balmy condor]

And now it’s not even uncapped crests

[rugged basalt]

ive been sapping, yoinking traps and running away

[balmy condor]

So it’s not worth doing

[subtle tundra]

isnt that good

[balmy condor]

And the whole system is called prey

[subtle tundra]

?

[balmy condor]

Because you’re the prey

[subtle tundra]

cause you dont have to do it anymore

[rugged basalt]

i do it for ummm the renown

[subtle tundra]

bring back island expeditions

[rugged basalt]

u never had to do it even

[subtle tundra]

lowkey

[rugged basalt]

lowk

[subtle tundra]

FUCK YOU

[balmy condor]

Cause you get ganked 3 times while clicking traps

[grim jay]

They first need to bring back garrison

[rugged basalt]

LOL

[balmy condor]

And then fly halfway across the zone

To pop cds on some npc that insta explodes

[subtle tundra]

ill be there for bfa classic. I WILL.

[rugged basalt]

is riposte removed?

or am i just blind?

[balmy condor]

Blind

[rugged basalt]

i missed it 4/4

[balmy condor]

What does it even matter

Just go next trap

[rugged basalt]

i was curious

[balmy condor]

System sucks so bad man

[rugged basalt]

im still progging this bird

the americans now sound australian

[balmy condor]

Prey like in theory could be sick

If you actually were hunting them

And like

Gathering clues and whatever

Mini quest type shit

Idk

But instead it’s like go do unrelated shit and get ganked sometimes and have the red horny belf scream at you to kill a critter in the next 15 seconds or you die

[subtle tundra]

wait why is it called prey if youre the hunter not the prey

shouldnt you get hunted, be the prey

and you fight the guy to survive

or am i a dumbass

[balmy condor]

I mean that works too

[night iris]

I thought timewalking raid gave a hero piece

[balmy condor]

But the system is you pick a guy to hunt down

You’re like “I’m gonna go find this fucker and kill him”

And then you don’t do that

[subtle tundra]

when i heard prey i thought i would be hunted during world content

[warm vortex]

Ok and

[balmy condor]

And instead the guy gangsbangs you randomly

While you’re doing other shit

[warm vortex]

What else am i supposed to say to rogues now

[subtle tundra]

lowkey...

[balmy condor]

Just fighting a rare

2s cheap shot outta nowhere

And a dude spam casting a bolt

Huge

I’m the prey

[subtle tundra]

idk but im hungry

need to go to lunch

[balmy condor]

I thought you’re romanian

[subtle tundra]

well

bulgarian

but yuh

lunch for me means actually hunting

[balmy condor]

Hungryan

[rugged basalt]

hunting what exactly

[subtle tundra]

finding...prey....................

mmmmm

[balmy condor]

Food, dumbass

[subtle tundra]

pigeons

mostly

[rugged basalt]

look at my hunter dawg im starving today

[balmy condor]

I’m starving too

For some DPS GAINS

Vorasius dagger with leech and a indestructible and a socket

[analog hedge]

getting hero ilv dagger from cata raid box feels weird..

do i even upgrade this

[balmy condor]

Do you have access to myth daggers

[warm vortex]

Sorry

That belongs to me

as the hunter

[analog hedge]

only crafted tbh which is in 3 more runs

[balmy condor]

Like mythic raiding or a consistent stream of +10’s?

[subtle tundra]

what do i take?

[analog hedge]

just consistent 10

[warm vortex]

Varas im going to do things to you

[analog hedge]

no m raid

[subtle tundra]

bucharest, come

we can fight

[balmy condor]

That’s probably good enough to not upgrade the hero dagger

Recraft your crafted dagger to 285 with myth crests

And vibe on that

[analog hedge]

aight

thanks bigman

[spice surge]

Bro I'm actually fiending for indestructible on dagger

[balmy condor]

Np smallboy

[spice surge]

All this dumbass haste

Makes my daggers glass

[rugged basalt]

i dont wipe so i dont need all that repair

[analog hedge]

😳

[balmy condor]

Real

[spice surge]

Literally lose 1/3 of the durability from a single key

[analog hedge]

dont call me that in public

[spice surge]

Without dying

[analog hedge]

😔

[subtle tundra]

yeah but

what do i take from vault..

[balmy condor]

In private tho….

[subtle tundra]

i have crafted 285 dagga

[analog hedge]

solar or hungering no?

[spice surge]

That's the thing

[subtle tundra]

(no hard R)

[warm vortex]

Varas i hate you sometimes

[analog hedge]

iirc hungering is bis dagger?

[balmy condor]

The ocelot bonerstompers or whatever

[analog hedge]

unless thats not myth track hungering

[balmy condor]

“Bis dagger” isn’t really a thing

[spice surge]

You lose durability on autohits, so when I have 300%+ attack speed it just bricks

[analog hedge]

oh? 😮

[balmy condor]

Daggers have piss low secondary stats

It’s super irrelevant

[subtle tundra]

hey

thats what i told a guy earlier

smh

maybe i should be the mod here

[balmy condor]

Did you know that survival has a talent that makes them get attack speed per bleeding target, and it’s uncapped

[analog hedge]

solar is also good i think(?)

just sim it ig haha

[balmy condor]

So they randomly just get like a 180% attack speed booster

[rugged basalt]

im somehow rich this season and i cant rly explain it, ill get by this one time

[balmy condor]

You can physically watch the dagger durability go down in the character window

It’s so lit

[spice surge]

Idc about the cost

[rugged basalt]

real

its the chore isnt it

[spice surge]

It's just annoying to need to remember to repair before literally every key

[balmy condor]

We need the gold sink I guess

Rogues gotta be punished

[plush umbra]

have to compensate somehow for being so strong

[hollow escarp]

All that pickpocketing gold.. blizzard wants it back

[frosty cedar]

this is why im bringing back the ancient art of sword-weaving during implacable downtime

[subtle tundra]

yes...please...

[frosty cedar]

slower attacks = less durabiltiy loss

[balmy condor]

You told me that you’d keep the rank 1 parse technology secret….

[frosty cedar]

delete this

[balmy condor]

It was supposed to be our little secret

[frosty cedar]

I can be trusted with one handed agility weapons. Yes raid leader I will DEFINITELY offspec outlaw

[balmy condor]

“It’s the best spec on paladins give me the mace”

Immediately followed by “the execute on assa is just too strong with our kill time”

Works EVERY time

[frosty cedar]

he knows

[balmy condor]

Just gotta fill your raid leader’s skull with empty buzzwords

[strange onyx]

I am feeling the outlaw angle

[frosty cedar]

if your ever feeling an outlaw's angle seek help

[storm forum]

Please tell me sword weaving is real

[spice surge]

Execute, prio, funnel

Feint

[frosty cedar]

shhhh

forget you saw anything

DONT look at my logs

[grim jay]

Based af

[balmy condor]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/900855182311706644/1001284187095052361/551.gif

[grim jay]

[balmy condor]

What

[frosty cedar]

[little tulip]

[grim jay]

I think I need glasses

I'm seeing things

And then they disappear

[balmy condor]

The money in your bank account?

[grim jay]

No I rarely look at it actually

[balmy condor]

Damn

[grim jay]

[frosty cedar]

the durability on your dagger?

[grim jay]

My dagger is short but incredibly thick, it doesnt wear down that quickly

[storm forum]

So like, should I swap both weapons? Or just one?

[balmy condor]

Anyone else really enjoying this discord April fools update? It keeps giving me these notifications that are like “stop calling she’s busy lil bro”

Really funny

[storm forum]

I haven't seen any of them and also wtf I didn't realize it was April already

[grim jay]

I forgot its April fools until I opened my vault

[balmy condor]

Oh you must be on the old version haha

[subtle tundra]

is this real?

[storm forum]

Never update ur mobile discord

[balmy condor]

Check DMs

[subtle tundra]

🫣

[frosty cedar]

true gamers sword weave at the opportune moment. craft swords with a different embellishment to your dagger. wait for dagger to proc hunt embellishment. energy maxxing. sword weave. bam. procs per minute of darkmoon hunt is reset for new embellishment. auto attack. auto attack. downtime is good. boom. new embellishment procs on sword. switch back. repeat.

[storm forum]

Thanks

[little tulip]

i just want the horn from better off alone by alice deejay

[subtle tundra]

is this real tech ppl do?

[little tulip]

as a sound in my wow game

[subtle tundra]

should i craft a sword?

i have 2 sparks

[balmy condor]

I would say it’s AI but I’ve never seen grok say something so profound

[storm forum]

I'm pretty sure it's April 1st trolling

But I want it to be real

[subtle tundra]

ill craft and test