When I get home I can
#assassination
severe meadow
stuck lodge
I dm you
royal lantern
allright
warm vortex
Mine so far for heroic :D
royal lantern
how evil is it that our priests decided that the pi addicted unholy dk gets no heroic logs this tier
cus they always double pi him
warm vortex
Imerator and vora were 99s before lock in
severe meadow
I’d be mad as fuck if I was one of the 7 people this happened to
Hope they be the crests back xd
novel veldt
!fuu
prisma monolithBOT
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
real pike
I am actually so fucking over the ratio between how quickly mobs die in m+ and damage taken
acoustic yarrow
Mine so far for heroic :D
I am gray parser! What's the number one mistake n00bs like me miss out on when playing assassination? 😅
fringe prism
Do you miss the finisher on your bar?
warm vortex
I am gray parser! What's the number one mistake n00bs like me miss out on when p...
I'm not an assa but i just chat here a lot
If i had to guess though it would probably just be energy management for a lotta peopel
acoustic yarrow
I'm not an assa but i just chat here a lot
If i had to guess though it would pro...
Like, not pooling energy for CD windows?
warm vortex
Idk
I'd guess like
Just using it improperly? I jsut see a lot of people complain about the amount of energy they have here
analog field
I mean in raid mostly is stand on boss and press uttons
in m+ I think it is the same but there is some more management there
frosty cedar
I am gray parser! What's the number one mistake n00bs like me miss out on when p...
do you have a log perhaps we can look at?
grey parsing is something going extremely wrong we can fix very quickly, you are dead for most of the fight, or you have a sword equipped
acoustic yarrow
Oh, yeah sure. Thanks!
Here is a recent log from yesterday (blue parse) - any help is appreciated:
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/G9NmK7XHWZbLvPph?fight=26&type=damage-done&modal=fight-selection&source=55
Realized that the gray parse was Subtlety. I was switching back and forth between specs:
Gray parse Subtlety
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/G9NmK7XHWZbLvPph?type=damage-done&fight=30&source=55
humble verge
this was one tragic key
frosty cedar
firstly you are not really getting any caustic damage which indicates you aren't really cleaving the adds
your cooldown usage is wrong, you are sending it right at the start of the fight, but you want to be setting up bleeds first, then envenoming, then going into cooldowns
you are playing deathstalker which is worse for damage than fatebound
frosty cedar
Oh, yeah sure. Thanks!
Here is a recent log from yesterday (blue parse) - any ...
what combo points are you spending on envenom can I ask?
frosty cedar
this was one tragic key
its always the mages
humble verge
its always the mages
real
frosty cedar
never invite a mage. they are always fotm rerollers and terrible. if they arent fotm rerollers and terrible, they are playing mage, so they are terrible
acoustic yarrow
what combo points are you spending on envenom can I ask?
7-8-ish
frosty cedar
you should spend on 5+
do not build past 5 intentionally, unless you are proccing darkest night from deathstalker, which you probably shouldnt be playing anyway
my advice to you would be to read up on how to execute your cooldown sequence correctly (wowhead guide or a sim will inform you), and ensure you are spending on 5+
for fights like chimarous, if you are looking to increase your parse, you will want to optimise cleave damage on adds and be efifcient about doing so
mighty pawn
acoustic yarrow
Yes it seems so
frosty cedar
not on his kill, he mains sub I think so I imagine hes just open world sub rogueing
acoustic yarrow
Is that bad?
acoustic yarrow
Ah, so i don't have it in Assassin, but for Sub.
frosty cedar
I can't tell from a quick look at the log, but are you playing around implacable, the apex talent, at all?
if your not sure what I am talking about, definitely have a read through the wowhead assassination guide thoroughly but either way definitely feel free to ask any questions in here
severe meadow
I can't tell from a quick look at the log, but are you playing around implacable...
You hold cds for salad amp? 
frosty cedar
no
severe meadow
Okay so no turbo cringe
frosty cedar
if one was coming up and I could get away with squeezing it in without losing a cast I would
but most of the times on these fights if im holding CDs its to get it into execute
severe meadow
I think I tried exactly pne pull where I only sent KB on pull
Too bad the amp is kinda ass
frosty cedar
that would have to be like a 90% amp or better I think at that point 😄
severe meadow
Yeeeeah
frosty cedar
I think its only 25% but I cant recall
severe meadow
I didn’t actually know the amp was that bad until I looked into it
I think 20%
it’s pretty bad
frosty cedar
severe meadow
20-25 tho for sure
frosty cedar
at least its not as bad as it was in damage amp omega
that raid had dmg amp every fight it felt like
warm verge
yeah wow im an adummy for thinking FoK was more in the damage profile. BIGGG ty
when is it worth to FoK then?? 
severe meadow
When you’re low on energy
And this is more of a m+ thing, I wouldn’t be spamming CT in raid all Willy nilly
warm verge
oh yeah lol 100%
real pike
just fuck OFF
frosty cedar
bro has it
timber abyss
whats mean season maximum?
I cant loot more than the max for rest of season?
spice surge
The season maximum goes up every week
But yes you cannot gain more than the season maximum
(outside of the 50 you can get from ?? + the cracked keystone quest)
timber abyss
so i need to manage my upgrades
vocal basalt
whats mean season maximum?
I cant loot more than the max for rest of season?
You only gert 2200 heroic or myth crests for the entire season
frosty cedar
assa does no dmg
who is this liar
vocal basalt
So you have to be cognizant of your upgrades
(i'm joking, season maximum increases by 100 weekly)
frosty cedar
dont worry varas, surely we will be buffed with the notes out in only mere hours
royal lantern
who is this liar
varas shitposting once again
severe meadow
who is this liar
Varas is the Loa of Ragebaiting
frosty cedar
many loa exist here
severe meadow
many loa exist here
Loa of Backshots
polar bridge
severe meadow
Some poop tuning again I see
coral ibex
agile oriole
lucid rune
Lmao
fathom wind
nothing for rogues as normal
exotic hazel
Guys chill, there are clearly just so many Rogue buffs coming that they needed their own bluepost
exotic hazel
32nd of Nevtember, we see huge buffs, you'll see
warm vortex
Hahaha i'm lauging my fucking ass off
How the fuck did they not buff rogue
like
!??!?!?!?!?!?!?
brittle quail
time to close the discord x)
warm vortex
MM doesn't get a nerf, and shadow gets a buff
but rogue doesn't get buffed
warm vortex
god im so happy i didn't chose rogue this time
frosty cedar
they wont nerf till after rwf
sudden brook
IT IS OFFICIALLY OVER
past bobcat
warm vortex
due to the amount of parse numbers
heroic is more reliable
but rogue needs a lot of buffs hha
weary stump
how did survival and beast mastery get buffed but we didnt get shit, whats going on there
past bobcat
how many feral players you think are doing mythic?
zinc frost
how did survival and beast mastery get buffed but we didnt get shit, whats going...
Because they are not the yellow class
warm vortex
how did survival and beast mastery get buffed but we didnt get shit, whats going...
Survival needs it
weary stump
generational hatred to rogues this tier by the devs
warm vortex
The reason it's high on the mythic charts is cause the only people that play it are good at it, and it's very underplayed
so the few people that play it parse really high, like leak
zinc frost
The reason it's high on the mythic charts is cause the only people that play it ...
Leak is skewing the numbers
weary stump
The reason it's high on the mythic charts is cause the only people that play it ...
sure but counterpoint, give us rogues more thanks 
exotic hazel
The reason it's high on the mythic charts is cause the only people that play it ...
Couldn't you make the exact same statement for Assa Rogue?
warm vortex
coral ibex
Couldn't you make the exact same statement for Assa Rogue?
no bc rogue isn't high on the mythic charts
warm vortex
Heroic numbers
and rogue needs a buff more
Im not saying it doesn't need them, it does
and frankly im finding it super silly that theyt haven't buffed them
but they buffed shadpow
coral ibex
so you couldn't say rogue is high on the mythic charts because of outlier performers
warm vortex
with it being that high
coral ibex
because rogue isn't high on the mythic chart
frosty cedar
fellas do not despair. go forth into mythic and show them how cracked assa is
weary stump
high dust
why i feel like t2 is better than t4....?
exotic hazel
so you couldn't say rogue is high on the mythic charts because of outlier perfor...
I meant in terms of the only people playing it are the top players
Which would suggest it's even more in need of a buff
weary stump
so hows path of exile doing lately, asking for a friend
marble escarp
Im sorry frost DK got another 4% and we got nothing
severe meadow
<@93553108243714048> my spec got changes
Dude you promised me a buff
Now I'm going to get benched in our normal prog for a SURV HUNTER
high dust
I'd rather be benched than go play sub or su(r)v.
frosty cedar
us I think
spice surge
slowest dps spec? In terms of APM
Deva
high dust
imagine having energy to press buttons.
god, good thing I dont have those sounds on. this season would drive me crazy.
thorn thorn
slowest dps spec? In terms of APM
Dev
Then dev again (different hero talent)
Then aug
stuck lodge
Big pulls do feel real awk in m+, I gotta press like 4 buttons and only then I get to start spreading
thorn thorn
Afflocks work really hard to spam seed the entire pull
severe meadow
how we looking for the 31st tuning?
do not open up the tuning
acoustic roost
worn nimbus
sub pvp buff
severe meadow
sub pvp buff
nerf
thorn thorn
Jay
worn nimbus
just give it a rest
primal parrot
help me im sinking into depression
frosty cedar
i feel like psychic link is a good tuning lever tho
thorn thorn
You say that
frosty cedar
I mean
warm verge
is scent of blood path worth going for in m+"?
frosty cedar
is scent of blood path worth going for in m+"?
just 1 point into scent is fine
thorn thorn
Imagine you become omegs shit tier in M+ because they accidentally nerfed it too much
thorn thorn
cant be good if they touch it every tuning pass
gray raven
seems wild we can't catch anything other than an aura buff once a month but here we are
gray raven
i liked seeing us in the race - we're fine in m+
onyx crane
am parsing slightly better now if I live
I am content with blue logs cuz I am a scrub ass casual :3
well atleast for week 2
humble verge
severe meadow
<:monkahmm:585734084571955211>
Everyone logging onto their shadow priests
Boosting them
FOTM GO GO GO
spice surge
No buffs
severe meadow
Any chance blizzard doesn't see anything and we get a buff ? 👀
Notes already released gup
we didn't get touched
real pike
Assa is so back guys <:pepecrying:1005114019629236294>
my keys are not going how your keys are going
humble verge
Assa is so back guys <:pepecrying:1005114019629236294>
what are you pushing keys?
clever gust
we didn't get touched
Fuck 
high dust
Not even a mention, it's sad
zinc frost
Any chance blizzard doesn't see anything and we get a buff ? 👀
Dw they didnt see anything rogue related
clever gust
what are you pushing keys?
My tank is a degenerate so when he get key that I need to farm in 14-15 range it's funnier in high keys than 10 as assa
clever gust
what are you pushing keys?
But dw today was a POS prison day like all of you I think
humble verge
is a waste of time
bleak star
is blizzard high? did they get ganked in warmode by some rogue? wtf gives
bleak star
they buff the piss outta spriet?
clever gust
is a waste of time
Well whenever you play meta classes I would agree, but pushing a little bit early allow you to spam a little bit easier on bottom of the tierlist class I would say
vale marten
no buffs to rogue, this people must be joking
gray raven
are ya'll playing improved poison instead of secondary poisoning because of the 2 set?
spice surge
That part of the 2 is unironically useless
frosty cedar
<@94965405633753088>
i wish this was more impressive than it looks, but theres ultimately not that many players playing assa, and this is relative to your own spec
spice surge
The 2p is 30% more garrote damage
chilly marsh
blizzard already gave up rogue will onyl fix 12.0.5
gray raven
the dot is applying poisons
frosty cedar
yep lmao
warm vortex
i wish this was more impressive than it looks, but theres ultimately not that ma...
Dude
have you seen leak as survival
gray raven
and what are people dropping in order to play sudden demise?
warm vortex
Dude makes it look like the best spec in the game XD
frosty cedar
and what are people dropping in order to play sudden demise?
nothing, we dont play it anywhere in m+ or raid
maybe super low keys for funsies
warm vortex
have you seen leak as survival
No externals
puzzle box crucible
survival
still top 20 for chimerus dps
madman
strange onyx
@balmy condor You awake, friend?
zinc frost
have you seen leak as survival
Hes the goat
hazy sundial
Apparently it’s not all over???
humble verge
looking at zerocool
tender ingot
normal mist
Zerocool , whenever you eventually search your own name to see who's talking about you, I just want you to know that you're pretty cool
normal mist
Hmmm no idea what is name is currently
warm vortex
wait why
normal mist
Nah it is
balmy condor
<@167090536602140682> You awake, friend?
Yeah what’s up
warm vortex
Yeah what’s up
People are
DYING
On other news
assassination didn't get buffed
nor did any of the rogue specs
that's it
true rapids
Who could have predicted
frosty cedar
we are fine brahs
rare stone
But they fixed letting us track our apex right....? right?!?
warm vortex
cunning leaf
with 4 set sub will probably end up middle of the pack in raid, or slightly below, but why are they noy buffing assa and outlaw already ?
orchid forge
hey guys how does caustic spatter apply to targets now? is it just same as last expac?
balmy condor
assassination didn't get buffed
I’m aware
frosty cedar
the best thing to do is to go into mythic and prove blizzard right that we are fine
severe meadow
the best thing to do is to go into mythic and prove blizzard right that we are f...
We getting benched bro..
warm vortex
I’m aware
Yeye i thought you would idk
People just turn to you when they are in need i'm guessing
I just turn to you for content, and the eventual hope of a bowling VoD
severe meadow
How do I go into mythic like this..
warm verge
guidon over puzzle box ? same track
true rapids
with 4 set sub will probably end up middle of the pack in raid, or slightly belo...
You think all the rogues in rwf cant get 4p and are just sitting waiting? No they are just being passed over because the other specs do more dmg even counting sub 4p
warm vortex
Nobody is going to put backshot on the bench due to the HR concerns of accidental backshots
frosty cedar
I probably wont be benched, ill carry the torch
frosty cedar
I told my raid leader I will not be pressing N and switching to sub
warm vortex
I can't say what i want
ruby bolt
guys teh bench is chill its all good!
warm vortex
Because i got a wrist smack due to posting too many foot images of xal
severe meadow
guys teh bench is chill its all good!
ty asdfmarkus69
cunning leaf
if fight isn t almost pure st or aoe fiesta then why would you bring rogue rip
cunning leaf
rwf guilds know what they are doing
warm vortex
if fight isn t almost pure st or aoe fiesta then why would you bring rogue rip
For the vibes#
And so i can steal a dagger off someone
severe meadow
if fight isn t almost pure st or aoe fiesta then why would you bring rogue rip
Our incredible DR of course
cunning leaf
should just change the buff to something like increased critical damage already and call it quits
severe meadow
warm vortex
Everyone : "Rogue is fucking dead Whisypr do something!!!11!!"
Whispyr: "Haha... maypel story...."
Jkjk
severe meadow
what in gods name does anyone want Whispyr to do xd
last iris
spark warren
They're responsible for our collective selves.
warm vortex
As if he works at blizzard or smth
spark warren
We're like children in a daycare full of knives and nails
And they're the caretaker :p
visual sun
I want em pookies vid for the weekly sin vibes
warm vortex
I'm just happy i don't play rogue anymore
severe meadow
I want em pookies vid for the weekly sin vibes
"Hiya"
warm vortex
Although blizzard
Add back old blindside and mnake it competetive and we have a deal
severe meadow
I'm just happy i don't play rogue anymore
tbh it's pretty fun in m+
I like it in raid too but we have none cleave
haughty flicker
I'm just happy i don't play rogue anymore
real
warm vortex
tbh it's pretty fun in m+
So is survival though :D
haughty flicker
god is telling me i made the right choice
haughty flicker
i genuinely cant believe they buffed shadow
severe meadow
Bel needed it..
haughty flicker
it was already in a great spot
warm vortex
i can't complain
red schooner
Whispyr has been typing for a while - are we getting a yap wall? I hope we're getting a yap wall
severe meadow
Whispyr has been typing for a while - are we getting a yap wall? I hope we're ge...
pin soon
warm vortex
"stop fucking dooming for god's sake"
spark warren
Let's say I'm lucky I don't play in a tryhard++ guild anymore and in a relaxed one instead, where they care a lot less about top performance. 'cause... otherwise uh... xD
warm vortex
Just play whatever you enjoy
strange onyx
Yeah what’s up
Can you believe this? Out drinking, check myself and wowhead in the mirror. Outfit on dowel, but class buffs reek
bitter bridge
hi, fuck feral. can i play assasination 
?
haughty flicker
no
severe meadow
no
red schooner
ye
frosty cedar
hi, fuck feral. can i play assasination <:owwo:1261266519787044964> ?
yes
errant swallow
We going feral or surv?
bitter bridge
frosty cedar
join us friend
errant swallow
Oh boy
balmy condor
Yeye i thought you would idk
People just turn to you when they are in need i'm g...
Yeah I’m just trying my best to stay out of discord atm, there’s nothing that requires my take or help, it’s no patch notes and I’m just kinda sick of the dooming and the hate comments and slurs in my DMs telling me that it’s my fault rogues ain’t getting buffed when I’m looking at the data and showing them why.
If I’m negative about stuff then I’m apparently a miserable angry shithead, and when I’m positive then all of a sudden it’s woke bisexual guy on the internet with colored hair time to rip into that, maybe if whispyr weren’t such a lil gay boy, rogue would get buffed cause apparently it’s my mood that’s somehow stifling the rogue community and making blizzard not give buffs and I’m just being happy and enjoying my time playing a game I love
And I just don’t really need any of that so im just chillin idk it’s fine
subtle tundra
Yeah I’m just trying my best to stay out of discord atm, there’s nothing that re...
sorry
haughty flicker
Yeah I’m just trying my best to stay out of discord atm, there’s nothing that re...
bitter bridge
damn, i feel that rogue is better than druid
we can react to msgs here
thats pretty cool
red schooner
People actually blame the guide writers/TCs for blizz patch notes?
severe meadow
People actually blame the guide writers/TCs for blizz patch notes? <:HOLY:125089...
yes
They get the hyper shit end of the stick
spice surge
"if you just complained more we wouldve gotten buffed
red schooner
I just blame Jay for the blizz patch notes
errant swallow
Wtf how can you blame them
spice surge
"if you werent so vocal about it we wouldnt have gotten nerfs"
severe meadow
People never take into account the crazy amount of time they put into it for us
spice surge
Cant win
plush isle
shit got to real in here for a moment
cunning leaf
People actually blame the guide writers/TCs for blizz patch notes? <:HOLY:125089...
Same people who wish actors death threats for playing an annoying character (Skylar white)
bitter bridge
Wtf how can you blame them
sending wrong feedback ?
severe meadow
I just blame Jay for the blizz patch notes
red schooner
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/486284970806083584/1486152563371016261/00...
You know what you did
severe meadow
Idk man I'm just not a hugfe doomer, I agree Rogue needs a little pick up but like
me dooming ain't fixing shit
I just go raid and have fun
strange onyx
Yeah I’m just trying my best to stay out of discord atm, there’s nothing that re...
Yo, homie. It ain’t like that. Love you and all you do for the community. Always got my mad respects. Stay strong 💪
red schooner
I mean when I played I was late tier CE, anything could be fuckin' viable so its just, eh.
It is what it is
crude helm
Look at it this way, the lows of rogue make the highs feel so much better
warm vortex
Yeah I’m just trying my best to stay out of discord atm, there’s nothing that re...
Yea I 100% relate with that
People just see the main person that does assassination rogue content and inject every complaint, comment, thought ect into you.
Staying off discord is smth id 100% recommend for the next few hours at least
As you said there’s literally nothing to say about assasisnation because nothing changed, but people still act as if screaming at you would fix it somehow.
Hoping the rest of your day will go smoothly though man, imma head off for now <3
hazy sundial
People think that not being #1 spec = bad
warm vortex
People think that not being #1 spec = bad
Yep
Or hell it has the opposite effect
Or
Not really
Mixed up my words
I mean like
If their only interaction with a spec is someone pumping with it they think it’s OP, semi unrelated to what you said but just came into my mind when I read it haha
lusty mountain
Yeah I’m just trying my best to stay out of discord atm, there’s nothing that re...
sudden brook
Yeah I’m just trying my best to stay out of discord atm, there’s nothing that re...
Legit same bro
Just not colored hair
zinc frost
we may not have gotten buffs, but continue to have the best theorycrafters so we gucci in my opinion
coral ibex
just hit the doomer andys with the big aj gif
plush isle
Lets be real for a moment, this raid is not only bad for Rogues, its just a clusterfuck for Melee in general.
Its just to much classes and why would you waste resources on a class that is like 10 years in such a limbo that just a minimal percentage of players are playing it and most of them are used to being just feed some aurabuffs/nerfs, when the most played classes get a a Blizzard 3000 Word Post every 2 Month explaining their Idea with the class.
earnest remnant
Legit same bro
i showed someone DS sub tech in keys, and got called big boss, we are not the same
strange onyx
i showed someone DS sub tech in keys, and got called big boss, we are not the sa...
Eating cake and still making assa viable keys atm, plebians stay short
royal lantern
People actually blame the guide writers/TCs for blizz patch notes? <:HOLY:125089...
that shocks you?
people think that singular people make desicions for the game aswell mate
red schooner
that shocks you?
I mean kinda, I didn't think it'd get to the point of dming abuse.
Like cmon.
coral ibex
yea you don't come to the conclusion of 4% aura buff for assa without at least a 7 person committee
severe meadow
People think Whispyr is who pushes the changes for rogue for sure
royal lantern
I mean kinda, I didn't think it'd get to the point of dming abuse.
we STILL have people insult Realz as "the lazy rogue dev that ruined the class", when he was just a guy that did some communication
if there is a name, people will latch on it and blame everything they dont like on it
sadly tale old as time
severe meadow
we STILL have people insult Realz as "the lazy rogue dev that ruined the class",...
I think Imma blame you..
red schooner
I think Imma blame you..
Pivoting to blaming Tryan, you're safe for now.
severe meadow
Pivoting to blaming Tryan, you're safe for now.
Yeah, I know secretly they're John Blizzard
haughty flicker
i always knew tryan was out for the downfall of all rogues
i just couldnt prove it
royal lantern
Pivoting to blaming Tryan, you're safe for now.
i mean, i said to somebody in wowgen that complaining about BfA Zul in 2026 is stupid, and immediatly got called a Bootlicker
haughty flicker
warm vortex
we STILL have people insult Realz as "the lazy rogue dev that ruined the class",...
Dude imagine being kaivax rn
royal lantern
warm vortex
Or hell at any point in time
Bro probably gets death threats daily despite being the messenger
red schooner
i mean, i said to somebody in wowgen that complaining about BfA Zul in 2026 is s...
Yeah I saw that one, which was wild.
humble verge
monk breakdown
warm vortex
What a spicy fucking name
Sergei
humble verge
thats my orig rogue
haughty flicker
sergei and niko
humble verge
:3
plush isle
sergeibench ?
warm vortex
Last rogue I made was called fart sniffer
warm vortex
He was a mechagnome with a mustache so long he had a wingspan
royal lantern
Last rogue I made was called fart sniffer
warm vortex
https://tenor.com/view/sapo-gif-15065622896911975780
Me to you
warm vortex
for these rogues
Uberempeefour
humble verge
warm vortex
There you go
warm vortex
Oh uberdotempeefour
humble verge
humble verge
warm vortex
Like my spriest is called Sydney
warm vortex
You just want excuses to post more clips
humble verge
low hare
has the envenom application of mark been a little wonky today for anyone else?
low hare
seems like its 50/50 on if it works or not for some reason today
never seen this issue b4
dusky granite
ah sick, we got a 40% buff to our chance to not get invited to pug groups this season
royal lantern
https://www.twitch.tv/maximum/clip/EntertainingTiredPterodactylBIRB-wCYwa0I8ViJw...
click the video->windowsfirewall warning
doxxing me huh?
severe meadow
click the video->windowsfirewall warning
Yeah I also got that when a friend send to me
tawny comet
I just got out of solo shuffle as assa...holy shit it was bad
I am terrible, I will not put it all on the spec
but man, I was like hitting people with nerf bats
plush isle
Imagine A Bleed Throw Ability with 30 yards Range where we could apply all bleeds on 1 target.
agile geode
wut?
spare kayak
Imagine A Bleed Throw Ability with 30 yards Range where we could apply all bleed...
that sounds good if outlaw/combat becomes a tank spec and uses bleeds similar to valeera in delves
wink wink
agile geode
whispyr tell blizzard to buff us pls
onyx scroll
He's a maplestory main now
earnest remnant
leave the poor lad alone, its not like he can do anything about it anyway
severe meadow
He's ignoring this slop and I don't blame him
wraith knot
I mean besides being a little behind on dps (I don't have 4p yet) in most cases I think we're okay but I am a bit confused that we got no changes whatsoever in PvE though, only class less played than us is evoker for christ sake.
split maple
maplestory treats him better
It for sure doesn't. My man hasn't seen a Pitched drop outside of CFE or Dreamy Belt in MONTHS almost a year.
and you can't swap to CFE or dreamy until you have like 10 other pitched items cause gollux 2 strong.
haughty flicker
i cant even log onto the game anyway
i try to log in and it auto crashes
sign from god perhaps
split maple
Do the uh verify file integrity on steam and that should fix it. At least it did whenever I run into ye olde 2003 coded auto crash
severe meadow
What happened to the 4% buff anyway did we get that already?
Yes
split maple
That was this week yes
plush isle
But putting our class aside for a moment, I find it fascinating how Blizzard really tweaks the Shadow Priest every two weeks—whoever the lead class designer for Shadow is, that man or woman is really having a blast.
drifting cloud
psychic link uwu
wraith knot
I guess all I can do is pray for a set drop in raid then so I can force the 4p
severe meadow
I guess all I can do is pray for a set drop in raid then so I can force the 4p
for a 3% increase pog
severe meadow
You're pregnant?
warm vortex
So the neck from crown
It procs off shadow -
No not yet
The neck from crown procs off shadow damage right, and the ring set from point gives me a twilight damage proc
Meaning the rings damage can proc my neck
This makes the neck deal
Get ready
0.05% of my damage in a key
plush isle
warm vortex
Fucking 0.05%
I can’t stop laughing
plush isle
0.05% Aura Nerf for Assa next Patch
warm vortex
31 dps
warm vortex
0.05% Aura Nerf for Assa next Patch
It’s even funnier cause it’s not even assassination
Just nerf them for the fun of it
severe meadow
Make Rogue exodia, need to run all 3 and we ascend
warm vortex
It’s soFunny though
drifting cloud
hey free dmg is free!
mint urchin
Chonky boar
warm vortex
Chonky boar
The boar is undersimming, in leak has said this
but there's no way that it is simming that low
It hits like a truckj
wraith knot
Make Rogue exodia, need to run all 3 and we ascend
It's Morphin' Time! all three proc and we one shot our raid and the boss
ez
severe meadow
It's Morphin' Time! *all three proc and we one shot our raid and the boss*
and then you wake up in a cold sweat
severe meadow
Nah it was a dream
severe meadow
Jack is outlaw for sure
azure carbon
<:HOLY:1250893440183570533> <:HOLY:1250893440183570533> <:HOLY:12508934401835705...
Now just imagine if you had them sweet sweet plague damage autos from deathstalker...
Edit; Lol NVM survival.
wraith knot
Hey rose, you got room on that wood plank ?
Not with these thighs die for me loser
warm vortex
Now just imagine if you had them sweet sweet plague damage autos from deathstalk...
Don’t need to play rogue deathstalker when sentinel already has bugs
Because of course they would make multiple hero trees that function around a mark debuff
That both have a super simple workaround that would fix a lot of ossues
wraith knot
I wonder how many rogues went demon hunter
plush isle
I mean they got our Smokebomb.
azure carbon
I wonder how many rogues went demon hunter
Feral also has the highest play rate it's had in a hot minute.
night delta
At least we're niche af
isn't that synonym with "not really sought in most content" ?
wraith knot
isn't that synonym with "not really sought in most content" ?
No it's synonym for "forgotten we exist"
bleak ocean
im not that well read in the tiersets, but is sin's 4set dog shit?
bleak ocean
ah alr, cause i was like watching sub's 4set and it seemed busted no?
frosty cedar
its like 2.3%
bleak ocean
bruh what
sand elm
yeah! fuck you nullaeus you prick
spice surge
ah alr, cause i was like watching sub's 4set and it seemed busted no?
2p is very good, 4p is meh
Unlike last season where almost all of subs damage was in blades now most of the damage sub does is in dance
coral ibex
just watched a paladin fall over as im casting my puzzle box on the first pull of skyreach
lmfao
its like the fucking gif
bleak ocean
Unlike last season where almost all of subs damage was in blades now most of the...
oh so that's why it seemed busted xD
but what do you think of sin's 4 set?
spice surge
Very mid
bleak ocean
yeaa thought so :p
spice surge
oh so that's why it seemed busted xD
Yeah sub is like middle of the pack now in terms of burst 💀
coral ibex
bleak ocean
Yeah sub is like middle of the pack now in terms of burst 💀
lmaooo, sin feels so weird for me ever since they reworked CT, i liked it just being a dot lol
i mean it's nice, but it just feels weird xd
is the bleed build even compatiable rn?
rugged basalt
I got better luck today in m+!
The employed people are starting keys so they take me in
vale shore
anyone know why this sims so much higher than functionally-identical trinkets of the same ilvl?
This, for example
is the proc rate that much higher, or something?
spice surge
Because it has more stats and procs more
Assuming you have the protocols enabled
From the quests
vale shore
the protocols are only enabled outdoors, in void storm, I was lead to believe
rugged basalt
"more often", "last longer" etc. I assume the numbers are just higher
spice surge
the protocols are only enabled outdoors, in void storm, I was lead to believe
Well yes the effects of the protocol, you aint get 40% crit from it
But if you have them in place your trinket is better in all instances content
vale shore
how is it better in all instanced content if it does not actually get more powerful in instanced content?
rugged basalt
It might be the console upgrades that may or may not be voidstorm limited
But maybe not
rugged basalt
Yea so it's the console uppies
The literal text on the trinket is active everywhere
night delta
It might be the console upgrades that may or may not be voidstorm limited
the console upgrades ARE what activates the protocols on the trinket
vale shore
I guess I should look into upping that console more
rugged basalt
But they're only the upper 3 upgrades
vale shore
oh, does the sim assume I have them?
night delta
yeah, they are easy to get indeed
rugged basalt
Sim assumes you have all three yes
spice surge
Well you can change the settings if you dont
rugged basalt
It's under sim options to check/uncheck
night delta
so this trinket is more or less BiS while in the Champion range ?
spice surge
And heroic range
night delta
damn
spice surge
Besides plume/gaze
rugged basalt
but as trinket 2
night delta
I also thought the upgrades weren't active in instanced content, might go purchase this again
spice surge
(or well, thats the case for sub, but presumably its similar as assa)
rugged basalt
appears so for us as well
night delta
A customizable trinket with effects you can rank up and/or swap out would be a fun thing to have imo
they were on the verge of cooking with this one
royal lantern
Yeah sub is like middle of the pack now in terms of burst 💀
i still dont understand why they nerfed subs aoe so much at expac start
night delta
reminds me of the mechagon punch cards
royal lantern
if it was problematic high aoe, yeha sure
but subs burst aoe wasnt even that special lol
crude helm
have we tested garrote on cooldown since it applies poisons?
wraith knot
Wouldn't the sim automatically do that if it's optimal?
spice surge
have we tested garrote on cooldown since it applies poisons?
It applying poison is genuinely useless
wraith knot
Yeah poisons by themselves are a li'l shitty rn no, like amplifying is amazing don't get me wrong, but not by itself obviously
royal lantern
.....what?
spice surge
Like your overall poison count in ST (where it is the "most impactful") goes from like 700 to 712
wraith knot
.....what?
You disagree?
spice surge
youre casting garrote like 2.2 times a minute or something
While you are attacking 2 times a second with a very high chance
vale shore
this clearly says "while fighting enemies within voidstorm"
agile oriole
this clearly says "while fighting enemies within voidstorm"
Doesn't the trinket say something else
The actual text on the trinket
wraith knot
I wonder if they're just trying to confuse people at this point lmao
royal lantern
this clearly says "while fighting enemies within voidstorm"
big rule in WoW: dont belive what tooltips say
agile oriole
wraith knot
Me, a returning player, asking the catalyst npc how it works: "you can use this to upgrade your gear lol gl"
How many of these protocols do we have rn? Only one? Or did I screw up and forget to do stuff
I only remember activating one
agile oriole
I have all three
wraith knot
Fk.
spice surge
You can do the voidstorm event and get catchup
wraith knot
Right I only did that once
agile oriole
1 from the weekly event in void storm, 1 from the weekly for doing 3 WQs in voidstorm (Renown Vendor there gives it)
azure carbon
Press stealth and go afk, you'll get it upgraded while you eat supper.
wraith knot
If you think I'm not doing anything you're talking to a guy who has been running m10s since m+ was released all day every day lmao, I just haven't had time to look into anything else, my brain is fried enough already
As a returning player there is a lot of shit going on man, forgive me for losing track of this random stupid thing
azure carbon
Oh I just said that as advice to make it less boring, lol. No shade here.
wraith knot
1 from the weekly event in void storm, 1 from the weekly for doing 3 WQs in void...
Thanks, I'll figure it out tomorrow I guess
wraith knot
lmao meanwhile my guildies been telling me from week 1 to calm tf down so I don't burn out
(I haven't listened I've been awake since 8 am and only stopped to eat and go to a short appointment, now it's 3 am and I just logged out)
normal mist
lmao meanwhile my guildies been telling me from week 1 to calm tf down so I don'...
The more you play now the less you have to play during the season the sooner you can quit
sharp viper
pvp tuning gets some dev notes even for simple changes, pve tuning mostly good ol 4% aura buffs
makes me sad reading patch notes
gleaming geyser
The more you play now the less you have to play during the season the sooner you...
exactly; took PTO this week so I could be full hero dungeon BIS and do my weekly 8 10s chores raid logging style
am there now
hardy rapids
dooming was warranted. I was right to doom.
tawny shell
echo heath
blizz is trolling
i swear ever since this discord ran off the rogue dev we've been getting constantly trolled
normal mist
I don't think that was the problem
spice surge
i swear ever since this discord ran off the rogue dev we've been getting constan...
Yeah except the times when we were really good 2/3 tiers
gleaming geyser
this conversation again
inner glade
Tbh, it just feels like DoT classes overall did not got proper tuned for the talent changes and stat squish.
mighty crown
🍿
zinc frost
higher keys feel nice, but do miss the demise nuke on smaller mobs/keys.
solar wyvern
<:garf_sit:1334889429449314456> 🍿
Rogue do low damage (盗贼伤害垃圾). same parse as arms war (评分红色，和武器战一样). Bring shame to guild (公会之耻). M+ instant decline (大秘秒拒). I stand in city like NPC.
Send this in the rwf chat for content
mighty crown
can do it in max's
solar wyvern
solar wyvern
Im doing my part!
hardy rapids
rugged sinew
Rogue do low damage (盗贼伤害垃圾). same parse as arms war (评分红色，和武器战一样). Bring shame to guild (公会之耻). M+ instant decline (大秘秒拒). I stand in city like NPC.
wraith knot
Rogue do low damage (盗贼伤害垃圾). same parse as arms war (评分红色，和武器战一样). Bring shame to guild (公会之耻). M+ instant decline (大秘秒拒). I stand in city like NPC.
sage cape
Rogue do low damage (盗贼伤害垃圾). same parse as arms war (评分红色，和武器战一样). Bring shame to guild (公会之耻). M+ instant decline (大秘秒拒). I stand in city like NPC.
glacial scroll
i might just start posting that in my M+ notes. Maybe itll increase my chances
sudden brook
Tbh, it just feels like DoT classes overall did not got proper tuned for the tal...
Shadow?
snow kindle
think shadow the only winning one unless you count aff which is just seed spam if i recall rn
novel veldt
!fuu
prisma monolithBOT
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
rugged sinew
can you guys post it at the teamliquid stream? lol
I just did don't worry
oak tangle
!up
prisma monolithBOT
barren yarrow
Has anyone cleared heroic with sin?
analog hedge
ladies and gents
have we come to the conclusion which is better for sin on m+? ds/fb?
barren yarrow
I use FB.
coral ibex
Has anyone cleared heroic with sin?
yea bro last week
barren yarrow
Anything that stuck out? I ran through sub and am playing sin next raid week.
stuck lodge
WoWhead appears to be missing the waist slot for BiS?
quaint sequoia
How do we feel about no Sin changes for the 31st?
spice sentinel
this is going to fuck people up, sin is going to do boss damage, not amazing overall damage but probably pretty good dps ranking damage.
if you care about parsing, prob go outlaw or sin, if you care boss go sub and spam evis or sin and envenom, if you care about add pad go sub and blackpowder or outlaw and just vibe
waxen oyster
How do we feel about no Sin changes for the 31st?
Rogue do low damage (盗贼伤害垃圾). same parse as arms war (评分红色，和武器战一样). Bring shame to guild (公会之耻). M+ instant decline (大秘秒拒). I stand in city like NPC.
severe jacinth
Rogue do low damage (盗贼伤害垃圾). same parse as arms war (评分红色，和武器战一样). Bring shame ...
Spec is garbage fire (天赋是垃圾火), Key bricked by your presence (钥匙因你而碎). M+ score fake like plastic (分数是假的), Instant decline by all leader (秒拒). Go play Hello Kitty Island Adventure (去玩凯蒂猫),
static glacier
Rogue do low damage (盗贼伤害垃圾). same parse as arms war (评分红色，和武器战一样). Bring shame to guild (公会之耻). M+ instant decline (大秘秒拒). I stand in city like NPC.
thorn crater
Did they actually buff arcane and feral for Tuesday and said fuck rogues?
sharp viper
Did they actually buff arcane and feral for Tuesday and said fuck rogues?
they've been saying that with every single patch note so far
static glacier
Did they actually buff arcane and feral for Tuesday and said fuck rogues?
Precisely
thorn crater
Bruh
static glacier
Tbf they buffed the weaker hero tree for arcane, or intended to
Idk what the actual impact of the changes are for it
thorn crater
I realize the whole shtick of „stats go higher specs get better“ then why the fuck don’t you bring it up to par now and nerf it when stats go higher
static glacier
That’s not true hombre
thorn crater
Also, since when does survival need a 4% aura buff?
static glacier
If any spec actually scales abnormally hard with stats that they’re stronger late into a patch or expac that shit gets changed quickly
Spriest in df had this issue
They won’t let specs get out of control with secondaries but be too weak before them
This kinda thing is more from MoP and earlier
Not a modern wow thing
kind talon
Did they actually buff arcane and feral for Tuesday and said fuck rogues?
they buffed the arcane hero tree which isnt being used
and they buffed feral which is worse than us in raid by a lot
static glacier
Also, since when does survival need a 4% aura buff?
Have you actually looked into the sample size?
kind talon
im more surprised that they actually gave a crazy buff to spriest
static glacier
Or we just going to draw conclusions from leak getting pi and basically being 1/2 logs on chimaerus when I last checked, really padding the overall since he hasn’t killed salhadar yet (neither has the entire spec)
And ye that’s a fight that doesn’t have aoe to pad overall on wcl with all fights aggregated
thorn crater
Just cause a majority of a spec is bad at playing it does not mean the sample is correct. I stand by that for less common specs it’s been that way for years. But that’s just a personal opinion. These samples take you into account everyone
static glacier
This is the same shit as judging that hunters are broken when people clear the paladins fight but haven’t killed other things, or balance on council of blood
These kind of fights skew spec overalls on all bosses for wcl badly
Since yes if your spec has not killed a mainly st boss but has killed the big aoe boss
Your wcl overall for all bosses is going to look huge
Until your spec kills the boss with lower dps bc no mass aoe
Tl;dr data is mad skewed atm, too few samples of data to draw proper conclusions esp on underplayed specs
Put it to heroic and sv is suddenly middle of the table, not outstanding
(For the record sv didn’t need a st buff, it needed more aoe - st was fine and will now be strong)
thorn crater
I get what you are saying though, I’m just saying that IF there is data that survival needs a buff
static glacier
Sin st was strong on hc week
thorn crater
There surely is enough to warrant a rogue buff
static glacier
But it’s aoe was fucked
An aura buff was cool but we’d have preferred targeted buffs
Same case for sv but unlike sin that spec has to be on average better tuned than rogue to have a dream of seeing any play
Very few classes can actually compete with the niches that ranged hunter specs bring
(Full mobility 40y / split cleave from hydra / v good burst on MM)
If you put sv on rogue I would bet my house it’s stats would look a ton better, better players would play it since it’s super good at range for beings melee dps
And I’d stop getting rank 1s on it every season too
north kestrel
Idk I’m enjoying my niche in HC and going into Mythic as an Assa. I do some of the highest ST in our raid group I’m usually top or top 2 in boss damage. There are enough aoe classes to do the adds without and issue and because of pure boss damage boss dies quicker. Sure it sucks being middle of the pack for overall but I think a big part maybe next week raid end boss is pure ST and assa will shine.
static glacier
Idk I’m enjoying my niche in HC and going into Mythic as an Assa. I do some of t...
Did you play df season 1 or 2 as rogue?
This is reminding me of that, sin and unholy were told to just hit boss and forget adds
north kestrel
Did you play df season 1 or 2 as rogue?
I didn’t I started maining rogue in tww
static glacier
No issues, we had no aoe basically. No caustic / ct was a ton weaker than it was in tww
We just played pure st even on cleave and tunneled boss
Poison bomb was your aoe in situations where you got to hit aoe
Shoutout raszageth intermission 2 aoe lagging everyone
north kestrel
Yeah that’s pretty much what it is now. But I enjoy the rotation. And I maybe coping but always showing my officers boss dam on logs. I just find Sub too boring to play.
static glacier
Sub has some optimisations with forcing apex, but yeah it’s glorified 2 button fury warrior level spec
Tww sub was too hard, I agree - this is too easy though
true tusk
yo, how do you see the change to assa rogue in version 12.0.5 to deathstalker mark?
grim jay
Tww sub was too hard, I agree - this is too easy though
you would be surprised how bad random pug subs still are tho
strange python
true
strange onyx
yo, how do you see the change to assa rogue in version 12.0.5 to deathstalker ma...
You go on the PTR or watch Whispyr's video
blissful spire
!fuu
prisma monolithBOT
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
true tusk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rekd7MYp0M0&t=333s
i just see the change on notes wowhead
ill go to see this video, ty!
sullen bramble
dooming was warranted. I was right to doom.
Can someone ELI5 to me? Is this just the top 5% of players?
arctic crown
Anyone has a good plater for assa?
subtle tundra
Can someone ELI5 to me? Is this just the top 5% of players?
its the top 5% of the mythic boss kills that have over 50 kills or something like that
so meaningless statistic btw
even if true, the data is so skewed you have to be dumb to look at it
dire smelt
why do u have to be dumb to look at it
it just depends what ur conclusion is that might make u dumb
strange onyx
Can someone ELI5 to me? Is this just the top 5% of players?
Yeah, or even higher
and dumbos wont realise why nobody plays assa on those early fights
sullen bramble
and dumbos wont realise why nobody plays assa on those early fights
Im a dumbo trying become un-dumbo. Why not?
past holly
QQ, can you just... not use puzzle box in a deathmark macro? it seems to just cast the trinket and than refuse to cast deathmark for me?
sullen bramble
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/46?class=Rogue
God I hate sub
dire smelt
assa is just objectively inferior rn but it won't stop me from playing it bc I wanna get as good as possible at it first and also improve other aspects of my gameplay
also there is a new patch yet to come out I believe
dire smelt
idk who is worried it must be air
idgaf that assa is worse than sub
im just stating facts
I play for parses against other players playing the same spec anyway so I couldn't care lessa bout damage in general
but I know some players do care
so if u care abt that learn sub
or wait for balance patch
dire smelt
?
playing for the only competitive aspect of the game ye
sorry for not rping in goldshire or what is ur point
velvet vault
dire smelt
u can have mine but idk if its good or not
strange onyx
Im a dumbo trying become un-dumbo. Why not?
Both two first bosses which most guilds have killed in voidspire need a lot of burst damage on some fuck off adds that spawn and assa is not great at that.
Atleast if you havent done splits your gear is gonna be low
and the dps check tight
sullen bramble
Both two first bosses which most guilds have killed in voidspire need a lot of b...
Thanks. I keep seeing a lot of noise around rogues being bad at the minute. I take on board what you’ve just said and obviously other factors outside of mythic raiding in the first week, but what would be the reasoning behind us getting no tuning first wave, 4% next and now nothing again next week?
Does that suggest blizzard think we’re in a fine spot?
Speaking specifically about assa
strange onyx
Both sub and assa, even outlaw to some extent is a fine spot tuning wise, it is just that 2 - 3 target cleave is the king this tier
strange jacinth
Yo! i may have missed something but how come Fok sometimes generate 1 cp and other times multiple? i saw someone writing something about crit generates more cp?
Thannks in advance!
golden loom
Yo! i may have missed something but how come Fok sometimes generate 1 cp and oth...
Yep the talent Seal fate
Gives you combo points per crit from an ability
strange jacinth
ahhhh i see thanks xD
golden loom
So mutilate can give between 2-4 (or 2-5 for fatebound)
And fok can give 1-7 depending on target count/crits etc
strange jacinth
i've seen some people in the opener in aoe scenarios " they are tending to use Multilate over fok for faster cp builder?
is this actually a thing or just a brain fart? xD zug zug
spice surge
Its not more cp to mutiliate
So no
That is 2 + 1/2 depending on crits.
Fok is 1 + 1 per target that gets crit
true tusk
From what I have read in the last comments, then should we resign ourselves to what remains of season 1 in midnight as soon as it begins?
Is this all we will have for the sin rogue?
crisp pine
No, we're getting a jetpack in 12.0.5 I've heard
true tusk
No, we're getting a jetpack in 12.0.5 I've heard
Shit tuning for me hahhahaha
Will continue renting Fatebound considering that there is almost no difference and the mark is shitty to keep an eye on
restive falcon
how many cata charges are we supposed to have, 2 right, 1 free 1 then 1 from 2k and the 3rd is next week?
royal lantern
2, and if you have 4 set you can just get them as random drops
restive falcon
so only way i get 4pc this week is if i get 2 tier tokens
im swapped to hunter now cause 
royal lantern
nah
need 1 tier token
then 2 charges by default
and 1 from AotC/2k score or 1,6k PvP
restive falcon
how do i get my 2nd charge for free i currently only have 1?
spice surge
1 for free, 1 from 2k
Then next week you get another 1
So you only need 1 drop from raid/vault
But this week you need 2
restive falcon
roger that ty
turbid wraith
am I supposed to spam energy in aoe or do I pool in it too
royal lantern
just spamm tbh
in most aoe situations your energy tends to not run out anyway unless it starts to be really long pulls
green silo
hello, new to rogue. is it a damage loss to use a 1 CP envenom when the apex talent buff is at 80% to trigger the energy regen sooner?
humble verge
its damage loss to ever use envenom under 5cp
green silo
ty
viscid aurora
or wait for balance patch
We wont get sh*t in balance patches tho
spice surge
Well they have released them for this week
But obviously theres gonna be more tuning later
golden loom
Dw rogue will just scale better than other classes
runic hinge
(aura buffs later)
spice surge
I mean the way the specs currently work rogue is never gonna be good in voidspire
haughty flicker
runic hinge
shh you got your plink tuning
haughty flicker
i actually cant believe they did that lmao
spice surge
Surely its good on midnight falls and beloren
haughty flicker
sub is gonna fucking blast that egg surely
spice surge
I mean assas burst is higher than subs, especially if its in execute
But yeah 90s vs 120
haughty flicker
whatever it takes to ensure my boy exile sees the inside of march
turbid sandal
A dagger drops in there, so he'll be taken for that fight out of pity
haughty flicker
severe meadow
whatever it takes to ensure my boy exile sees the inside of march
He got to see the raid for like 10 minutes
That's pretty good
spice surge
I mean surely midnight falls isnt another 2-3 target cleave situation
frosty cedar
viscid aurora
i mean assa is in dumster with bm and feral and both of them are getting buffs
spice surge
Like im fairly convinced rogue isnt bad enough to be benched on a more ST focused boss
But obviously if its another 2-3 target cleave angle then its GG
rugged basalt
im proud of myself 💀
severe meadow
hell yeah
rugged basalt
that was dreamrift
severe meadow
We love purple parses around here
rugged basalt
and i played like a normal human too, i actually did ok on adds
rl put 3 rogues in the same odd group though so i was forced to cleave
severe meadow
rugged basalt
i saw that for a millisecond and im happy its not longer
severe meadow
3 rogues 
viscid aurora
3 rogues in this economy
ember condor
bruh
rugged basalt
2 sin 1 outlaw 
ember condor
Got moroesd
severe meadow
Damn you almost had exodia
rugged basalt
no subs here
spice surge
Got moroesd
Shouldnt have included bad words in your shitpost
frosty cedar
this is the guy who has half of the rogue population in his guild
severe meadow
Shouldnt have included bad words in your shitpost <:garf_sit:1334889429449314456...
I didn't even see it xd
rugged basalt
the subtlety's are busy learning chinese rn so they're not in the raid
ember condor
Shouldnt have included bad words in your shitpost <:garf_sit:1334889429449314456...
true, i always forgot that r word is a bad word now
spice surge
Well no because it gets autofiltered
severe meadow
severe meadow
suddenly im not as happy
Is that micro bar the outlaw? :3
dire smelt
bro got a micro
rugged basalt
sin outlaw sin
severe meadow
251 ilvl
severe meadow
What boss was it again
rugged basalt
chim
severe meadow
damn ya'll got slammed
rugged basalt
i had to blow cds on last big guy
royal lantern
I mean the way the specs currently work rogue is never gonna be good in voidspir...
honestly
after week 1 i just gave up trying to interac with adds
just full ST talents with Spatter so im not 100% ussules on Cleave and tunnel on boss
severe meadow
I like CT sometimes 
rugged basalt
the lock man...
royal lantern
Dragons and Paladins is CT
rugged basalt
doing void rn lets hope i can pad
royal lantern
dont really see a reason for CT on the rest
severe meadow
Dragons and Paladins is CT
Yeah, maybe it's the feeling of having more options in the kit
Rather than just hitting FoK
spice surge
Gotta spread your snapshotted improved garrote onto all the small adds
royal lantern
vore and salad?
salad is basically a ST fight anyway lol, you either ST the boss or ST the balls
and first boss adds are dead before my dots ticked 2 times
rugged basalt
ya so those two are st
good ok
i like using st in aoe boss fights
so i asked if i can greed anywhere else
royal lantern
like my experience with first boss this week was
"ok the add spawned, i need to apply garrote and rup.....its dead"
royal lantern
Some classes got some crazy cleave burst
THATS the thing that irks me tbh
like
subs strenght was strong instant aoe burst
severe meadow
Is Devo just nuts cleave?
royal lantern
and they nerfed it for no real reason when it wasnt even exceptional at that
severe meadow
I actually know nothing of what that class is doing rn
shrewd night
subs strenght was strong instant aoe burst
At least you can shadowstep the adds 