#assassination

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grim jay
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That would actually be the move of the loa of misinformation

shrewd night
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I can ban him for the great reset

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Then it would be today

grim jay
shrewd night
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The great banana accident reset mine, it would be a shame if I was the only victim of such crime

grim jay
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Weve been suffering through this for 9 years, I even supported you, why do you do me like that

red schooner
strange onyx
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I was banned in whatever time I joined the server

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I was here before anyone

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This is the truthdom

grim jay
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Im pretty sure I was close to the discord opening

shrewd night
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My girlfriend is the actual real owner of RH, but she goes to another school, you wouldnt know her.. And her account got banned so.

grim jay
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The date in my profile also isnt the OG date of when I joined

plain thistle
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discord launched on legion? I dont remember exactly

strange onyx
shrewd night
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Thats when it started to pop off at least

grim jay
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Iirc January or February 2016

warm vortex
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Btw

grim jay
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Sounds like a pokemon

royal lantern
warm vortex
warm vortex
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Maybe i need to return to rogue now

grim jay
onyx crane
royal lantern
warm vortex
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I mean im still palying hutner

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just said

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MAYBE survival will get buffed in the m+ tuning

shrewd night
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Changing one clown makeup for another, good choice

warm vortex
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right

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;-;

warm vortex
royal lantern
onyx crane
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So how does assa fight saladbar or dragons properly

shrewd night
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Fury is clown makeup?

strange onyx
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Not sure what to play on Dimensius yet

onyx crane
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Lol

shrewd night
royal lantern
shrewd night
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Tony, you are banned if you defend 1m convoke

runic hinge
shrewd night
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Oop, there we go 👋

runic hinge
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HEY

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that wasnt defending convoke

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that was shitting on incarn LOL

shrewd night
onyx crane
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Cuz i feel like headless chicken

shrewd night
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Its just mega miserable, delaying convoke because popping it at this time doesnt make sense, but that also means you have to delay zerk equally much in 1 m and it just keeps on balling

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HOLY FUCKING DOGSHIT

runic hinge
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FF being 45 seconds is also so awkward

nova flax
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Ur balla damage is pretty inconsequential

haughty flicker
nova flax
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But it wont kill you to swap since we arent playing deathstalker

runic hinge
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like my second tf is ending right as my big damage spell is coming off cd???????

strange onyx
shrewd night
rugged basalt
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Tunnel, if you have CT and the ball is close tap that shit once I guess

onyx crane
rugged basalt
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Tunnel pure

runic hinge
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does the fact feral has a funnel talent but doesnt take it mean funnel is bad?

onyx crane
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Fourhandosaur was a name coined by 7 year old daughter of an officer in my guild

grim jay
runic hinge
strange onyx
grim jay
royal lantern
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btw, why does my RL send us a reddit video about "guild crashing out during raid" and i can see Guy in that video

shrewd night
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Because he is in that guild?

shrewd night
onyx crane
static glacier
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guy is a crashout in private ofc

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xd

onyx crane
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So i went for that

royal lantern
grim jay
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Aint noone in this world yelling at me like that

onyx crane
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Just trying to wrap my head around why I am being so ass at ass

haughty flicker
onyx crane
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Outside of gear issues ofc

sage basin
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link a log then

onyx crane
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Some ppl already play with 4pc

grim jay
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Only a log review will offer you the truth

onyx crane
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Im scared

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Too embarrassed by my own failure

glacial scroll
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You're already playing rogue

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Share a log brother and embrace the improvement

onyx crane
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And a female goblin at that

sage basin
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if you're not doing mdi or rwf who cares

sage basin
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I mean about racial lol

onyx crane
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Oh goblin racial is kino on alleria

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So is shadow step

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My gear is utter bollocks tho

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@sage basin your pf pic reminds me of an old kinder egg toy

sage basin
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Lol, first time I've heard that

onyx crane
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Well it's from like mid 90's so...

grim jay
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Dang, khululy might be as old as sap

onyx crane
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Turning 41 in few weeks :c

wraith knot
onyx crane
wraith knot
tawny comet
wraith knot
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A bad joke perhaps, but I'm doing my best

onyx crane
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Ah yeah USA country of the scared

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Jokes aside, should I change mains? All the specs/classes I playe are bad atm :c

runic hinge
wraith knot
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People who give a fk about other players are the ones who play fury warrior on classic with 20 other fury warriors and think they're amazing

onyx crane
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It's not aboyt haters, i just don't wanna feel like sandbagging

wraith knot
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That's fair

onyx crane
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I don't need to fotm fomo

sage basin
# onyx crane https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/eu/tarren-mill/bettyboombox

A couple things I could see from logs is that you have one of your fatebound talents on the wrong thing, you have Destiny Defined instead of Overflowing purse and you're delaying your cooldowns by a longer interval each use - which ultimately made you just lose casts. You're also doing this regularly - which is really bad. You want to puzzlebox before deathmark

analog field
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between dm and kb

haughty flicker
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you'd probably want to start the cast sooner but yeah the order is correct

wraith knot
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(I don't actually know the right answer myself, but I think I saw this before)

sage basin
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When did that change? PB is 20 seconds >_>

haughty flicker
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counterintuitive but whippy himself confirmed it

wraith knot
haughty flicker
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pb

analog field
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yeah it's from the man himself

haughty flicker
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is so ass

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silly trinket

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delete it

sage basin
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Okay, disregard that then, my bad didn't see that discussion earlier

onyx crane
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Ah the cd thing might be cuz of fight familiarity

sage basin
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Delaying of cooldowns still bad and wrong fb talent

wraith knot
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Hey no worries bro you're just tryna help

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I also think pb is freaking terrible

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So weird

onyx crane
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Ficusing too much on what's going on forget to look at my cds

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Also on fourhandosaur these cds overlap qith pushback

runic hinge
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Tbh I think just not using puzzle box is better for your mental

wraith knot
sage basin
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I have puzzlebox and just choose to use anything else lol

analog field
onyx crane
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I have obly ass trinkets atm

sage basin
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I'm still using my veteran void execution mandate instead

wraith knot
runic hinge
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I used it for like 4 or 5 bosses last night and then I dropped an alnseer so I went double passive

onyx crane
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I got the spire plume

stray fox
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PB is a nice break for the fingers that gives big numbers

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I’ve grown to like it

wraith knot
sage basin
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My vet void execution mandate sims better than my champ plume with my current gear 🥲

wraith knot
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At least until I'm used to encounters enough and rotation, I'm new (returning from a long, long time ago in a galaxy far, far away), and I don't want to worry about when to use puzzle box while I'm trying not to die lmao

onyx crane
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So i need the coin talent in hero tree and using my kb sooner so the it lines up bettercwith my next mark, and be less of a headless chicken in fights

sage basin
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Won't magically fix everything but, it'll definitely help

wraith knot
glacial scroll
# onyx crane Jokes aside, should I change mains? All the specs/classes I playe are bad atm :c

First off play what is fun. You're not getting greens cause assassination rogue is bad. it's cause you have room to play the class better.

Ok I looked at your first fight on heroic and compared vs mine. Not that I am amazing but parsed pretty well on that fight:

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Xtr9DBNjFbgZn2Ld?fight=7&type=damage-done&source=147

Your fight duration: 6:32
My fight duration: 5:25

Your envenom casts: 67
My envenom casts: 89

Your rupture casts: 20
My rupture casts: 15

Your melee attacks: 874
My melee attacks: 897

Your garrote casts: 30
My garrote casts: 22

Your mutilates: 85
My mutilates: 83

Your fov: 48
My fov: 12

Your CT 20
my CT - 20

So a lot of this comparison is just to show that you likely are missing out a lot of damage on just ability usage optimization.

  1. Missing tons of opportunities to envenom. Your fight duration was longer than mine but had 22 less envenoms
  2. Missing a lot of auto attacks, large chunk of dmg
  3. Overcasting rupture/garrote and not reapplying at the right time
  4. Probably misusing CT/FoV during adds phase - I try to make sure the buffs are on the boss, then use CT on the adds. You used 36 more FoVs than I did and you prob were overcapping combo points

Huge part is just combo point management and efficiency honestly.

Anyways thats my noob review hope it helped

wraith knot
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I freaking hate the skills queueing

wraith knot
onyx crane
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Been playing assa for nearly a decade, bit slow learner of boss pattern/ability

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Plus my haste is quite low atm so regen is not as good as it could be.

wraith knot
onyx crane
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But I dont feel i over cast rupture and garotte

wraith knot
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Mildly from a mathematical viewpoint assuming lostsunglasses is playing perfectly

shut sand
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U gotta be part of the 1%

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Max ur dps

wraith knot
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Cringe

coral ibex
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i wish there was a way to macro stopping movement in all directions and then cast puzzle box

onyx crane
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If I hit traing dummy i dps roughly what I sim as

runic hinge
lavish hazel
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!buff

onyx crane
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Maybe it's just first week things

shut sand
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For sure

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I like to go in blind first week

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It makes it much more fun and challenging

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Rather the prehearsed

onyx crane
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I went in blind too, didn't watch any guides on bosses

shut sand
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The vibes look funny

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Bro people dying to same simple basic mechanic on 30th wipe

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And raid lead losing it

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So funny

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I already knew we was not gonna clear heroic first eeek

wraith knot
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I don't see how people who think like that believe that people are gonna play better if you pressure them needlessly and yell at them

amber mountain
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We never clear heroic first week. We have a few carries in our 15 regular raiders, but Midnight has ballooned the size of our guildies wanting to raid. So we did normal (Alleria was rough) and moved on to Heroic and I can only instruct so many people on where to go when and to not stand in shit at one time.

onyx crane
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My guild made it to dragons hc

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No kill

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Dragon's way rougher than alleria

coral ibex
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are you sure

onyx crane
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We had far less wipes on alleria then we had on dragons

analog field
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alleria hc easier ?

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I wouldn't say so

haughty flicker
onyx crane
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On nm i mean

analog field
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ah yeah ofc hc is way harder than normal

onyx crane
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Paragio was saying alleria nm was rough my experience was dragon's was rougher

coral ibex
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idk how you can wipe on dragons tbh we one shot it on heroic and it was boring

onyx crane
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Well sorry youare so great

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I playvwith humans not demi gods

haughty flicker
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i play with dogs

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(its me im the dog)

coral ibex
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bro my raid leader last tier sent this message in our raider chat

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we're very much human kekw

wraith knot
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lmfao

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He's acute one

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(Please tell me someone got that one)

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(I'm trying so hard bro)

coral ibex
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he's a vibes raid leader

analog field
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In hc the only 2 bosses that are kinda hard are the dragons and alleria

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all other kinda fall off

severe meadow
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We’re going back in tonight with core so hopefully we get a little alleria in

analog field
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Yeah we stopped and we will go alleria on tuesday.

haughty flicker
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my guild didnt kill dragons, then i went and did it and vanguard in a pug

coral ibex
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we're doing alleria tonight

haughty flicker
analog field
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But I don't think we can make it. I didn't even craft dagger cause i thought it wouldn't be needed so now I am forced to wait for wednesday

frosty cedar
fallow canopy
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30 man or even 25 its feels like its not scaling properly

coral ibex
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we run 24

analog field
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too much aoe going on

fallow canopy
analog field
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we did it as like 26 so maybe scaling issues

severe meadow
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Especially for the last phase

frosty cedar
gleaming geyser
fallow canopy
severe meadow
fallow canopy
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oh

zinc pond
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  1. In ArcUI, go to Bars -> Custom Bars -> Create New Stack

  2. Set Max Stacks to 80 and turn off all the other options under Stack Settings & Expiry.

  3. Make a generator using the Spell Cast Option, tracking Envenom, that gives 15 stacks. This gives 15 stacks each time you cast Envenom.

  4. Make a second generator using the Aura Gained option, tracking the Envenom buff that gives 5 stacks. This accounts for the fact that the first stack gives 5 more than the rest since you gain Envenom once at the start of the chain, but refreshing it doesn't give you a new instance of the buff, so this only triggers once on the first cast of the chain

  5. Make 1 spender, using the Aura Lost option, tracking the Envenom buff, that removes 80 stacks. This resets the counter when you lose the Envenom buff

  6. Adjust the appearance to your liking. Without changing any options, it looks like it does in the screen recording here. If you just want the icon and no bar, you can make the bar invisible and move the duration (not stack) text so it sits on top of the icon.

Since it's not doing anything with the Implacable buff itself, this doesn't get overwritten by the energy regen buff after Envenom drops off. idk if there's an easier way to do this, like I said, but this is what I did and it mostly works. It seems to occasionally bug out, but a /reload usually fixes it

frosty cedar
wraith knot
sacred oyster
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im just with pugs but struggling with dragons on normal lol, but ive been topping dps charts just things keep getting messed up on it

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ultimately im staying alive so i feel like im doing my part right

sacred oyster
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though i feel like my dps is meaningless on the ads so ive just being staying focused on bosses

robust heart
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!ui

prisma monolithBOT
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Assassination UI Imports:
Currently not available. Sharing UI's is not as standarized as it was with Weakauras.

For now, browse the following Blizzard HUD and Blizzard CDM imports on Wago:

hazy sundial
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god i hate puzzlebox

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more like cringebox amirite ffellas

storm forum
gray raven
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!macro

prisma monolithBOT
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Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

#showtooltip Deathmark
/cast Deathmark
/use 13
crude helm
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Can’t wait to ask whispyr to review my deathstalker puzzle box log

gray raven
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so there is no way to macro puzzle box right?

crude helm
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Nope

storm forum
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Puzzlebox between dm and kb very conveniently pushes the end of kb into the 30% nature damage amp

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Which probably means nothing

nimble tartan
storm forum
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Wait is that legal?

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Shit I could probably do that tonight

vale shore
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
haughty flicker
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i go get my last heroic vault slot and chance at my bis trinket

hazy sundial
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Emberwing feather sims 14 dps less than puzzlebox fuck it im siwtching

gray raven
storm forum
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That's margin of error, feather could even be better!

gray raven
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why would any trinket have a cast time that isn't a channel

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its so incredibly dumb

vale shore
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gotta solve that puzzle!

storm forum
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Ur solving the fantasy rubix cube

gray raven
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skill issue, cannot solve

plush oasis
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Casting the puzzle box stops me from repetitively strafe-dancing around the boss. Automatic dps loss.

severe meadow
coral ibex
zinc pond
nimble tartan
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i like the puzzlebox cause u get to scratch ya booty

fallow canopy
zinc pond
cyan kestrel
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Do yall think improved garrote needs to be removed/reworked it feels pretty mid and it makes vanish timing in raid very awkward. They removed/reworked everything else tied to being in stealth it seems a little weird they left this one no?

latent kernel
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like i wish there was just some reason to use it with the first deathmark

cyan kestrel
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Master Assassin gave a reason to use it with the 1st one which was nice

spice surge
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Thats a decade old problem at this point, clearly unsolvable garf_sit

cyan kestrel
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surely they couldnt just replace imp garrote with shrouded suffocation and then make a new node in that spot or just bring back something they have prev removed garf

latent kernel
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hot take, give us 2 charges of vanish baseline, and make it so that deathmark gives us improved garrote for the entire duration

cyan kestrel
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idk if this is a hot take or not but I miss sanguine blades SAD

haughty flicker
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i didnt even notice it was gone

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legit had to look up if it was removed in midngiht or before that

cyan kestrel
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I dont think it would fix anything but I just liked seeing it in my damage breakdown for some reason :p

haughty flicker
weary stump
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Felt it in my bones, a lack of spikiness

bitter solar
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they took bonespike animation and gave it to dks. Another reason to hate udk

weary stump
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At least they aren't warlocks but true

bitter solar
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or ret pallys pepestab

normal mist
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They are kinda warlocks

weary stump
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True, actually

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Death knight = warlock = mage

normal mist
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Full circle

analog field
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He said deathmark not death stalkers mark 😂

sacred oyster
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oh oops, but both are 2 mins, whats not lining up for you

analog field
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yeah but you have imp gar at the beginning

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so you do t need vanish

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so either lose a cast or use it at 30 seconds where deathmark has almost fallen off

sacred oyster
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right, imp, cd, vanish rigth before next dm

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eh i guess if you wanna consider using it sooner

analog field
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I mean it is the same as using it at 30 sec

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on average they are the same dps

fallen charm
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Have anyone tried to shadowstep back to the platform after a knockback at the star fo skyreach?

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I do not recommend

sacred oyster
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shadowsteps been amazing for dragons on spire if you hit it quick enough on kb saves your ass having to run back

fallen charm
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I went under the mountain, minus 20sec easy on a m+ trying to unalive yourself

polar sail
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I craft dagger 259 should i recraft it to 272?

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@spice surge 😂😂

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i have 144 hero

fallen charm
spice surge
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The only situation where that isnt just completely wasted hero crests is if you are not planning on getting any myth crests for like 1-2 months

rugged basalt
fallen charm
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Just do a nemesis delve on ?? For free 30 myth crests

spice surge
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Wasted hero crests means youll have to waste more myth crests

fallen charm
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And you only need to do a couple m+ to recraft mythic later

polar sail
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Alr

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I will wait

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So what shoul i craft second craft bis?

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Belt or what

fallen charm
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Wrist

storm forum
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Wrist and cloak are the lowest stat budget slots

sacred oyster
hazy sundial
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Does anyone else run out of energy on big pulls? I have an issue when tank like 10 mobs, by the time I’ve spread dots on all of them im out of energy to use envenoms and fok

sacred oyster
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pop your DM and watch em melt

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doing FOK/ENV obviously once energy allows

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I do about 3-4 CT's then dump envenom to allow it to fall off in middle of more CT spam and get some flowing

timber abyss
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i didnt found information in faq about the haste so i will ask it here:
Do we have a soft cap (req cap) for haste ?

analog field
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nope

timber abyss
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so stack crit as much as i can?

severe meadow
hazy sundial
severe meadow
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Assa likes all stats but they lose value at certain points

sacred oyster
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haste is still 2nd top secondary stat until the 10% DR period, dont go into 20% DR. Get the "True Stat Values" addon to see the DR points in game easily.

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you can still get haste while in the 10% break

storm forum
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We usually want a balance of stats. They synergize with each other very well for us so we want everything, even a little vers at some point.

sacred oyster
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though you obviously need to balance mastery for aoe

storm forum
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We're not like Disc who just wants haste haste haste haste.

severe meadow
coral jasper
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Do we have any dif from raid and m+ talent guys?

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Any video that i can check it out?

sacred oyster
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yeah raid you want more ST focus. theres 2 raid specs on wowhead, 1 more pure ST focus, other with some aoe ability

coral ibex
acoustic birch
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why am i doing 40k single target on sin at 249 ivl bro

sacred oyster
shut sand
sacred oyster
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but in raid theres lot more mechanics going on reducing dps

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and will vary per m+ fight too depending on mechs

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im def having no issues doing good ST dmg

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generally only good players on meta classes ever pass me

analog field
acoustic birch
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that's me just smacking a dummy for 8 min

analog field
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and without pots consums etc

sacred oyster
strange onyx
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@dire smelt

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Hello chat can i send hero crests on my off hand dagger so it doesnt look so broke?

sacred oyster
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im still using an adventurer dagger in offhand while rest is champion/2pc hero/vet crafted main cause stupid dagger wont drop from pit.

spice sentinel
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I wouldnt personally spend crests on offhand. Its like 1/40th the dps of your mainhand

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Or something crazy like that

spice sentinel
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Oh, ive seen it asked a lot lol

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Like guild was trying to get me to dump all of my hero crests on h dagger and i had to show them the stat weights for them to believe me lol

strange onyx
severe meadow
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The Loa of Misinformation was.. misinformed?

storm forum
spice sentinel
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Lmfao

sacred oyster
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i dumped my hero into the bracers since thatll then last for long ass time before worrying about myth replacing it.

strange onyx
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this how u guys been lookin

storm forum
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fricking getting baited at 1pm on a monday

spice sentinel
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Just realized there probably isn't any sort of free hero crest equivalent now since they changed crafts

coral ibex
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you can craft 259 with no crests

storm forum
severe meadow
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Don’t you also get crests from the delve boss

sacred oyster
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yeah i ended up with perfect 80 from delve boss and i guess tier 11 delves and housing

stuck lodge
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259 just costs sparks

strange onyx
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I am so tired of doing 11 delve nemsis caches to cap out on Myth crests

stuck lodge
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Can also just farm hero crests using prey at nightmare difficulty

severe meadow
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Well I meant more the ?? Delve boss

lime onyx
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You get 30 from ? Mode and another 30 from ?? Both uncapped. Plus myth crests from ??

stuck lodge
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I get like 15 every 6 minutes

sacred oyster
polar sail
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Shoul play 3 times 11 dlevw to get myth or heroic max per week?

sacred oyster
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i only did ??

strange onyx
coral ibex
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you have to be smoking crack to spend hero crests on anything other than 3/6 hero track drops

sacred oyster
analog field
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what is the difference from 259 bracers? in terms of DPS?

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isn't it more worth to keep the crests

severe meadow
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Are you holding every crest? xd

sacred oyster
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eh i guess you could argue 80 would have been better in other slot, but overall its something can cross off and be done with for while

analog field
sacred oyster
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ill be in hero tier keys in what prob 2 days so its like w/e will grind more

severe meadow
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Ah I mean

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Hero craft is grief yeah

analog field
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like 100 per week

coral ibex
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i had 120 hero crests and i spent them on 6/6 hero track tier pieces

analog field
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Yeah I want to wait for vault but I was thinking sending on 3/6 shoulders

coral ibex
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still need to go do ? and ?? delve

sacred oyster
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i didnt get any tier pieces yet

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im not converting legs to tier which is what i got hero on.

analog field
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depends on what you get

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if it is the last for your 4set you should 😂

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otherwise you wait

sacred oyster
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i guess, id cry though as i got some nice crit/haste legs, and tier is crit/ver iirc lol

analog field
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I mean irrelevant, like 0.1 DPS gain?

sacred oyster
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at my current in DS sims haste has double weight vs vers for me

analog field
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weights do not exist

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you can just sim the 2 legs and see difference

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I would not believe it is more than 0.2

bitter solar
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no overflowing purse PES_SadGe

analog field
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Yeah weird I wouldn't have guessed it

hazy sundial
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So i can spam “?” To cap out on myth and hero crests?

coral ibex
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no

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its one time

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they dont count towards the weekly cap

sacred oyster
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oh so its not even weekly?

coral ibex
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you can probably do it weekly for the weekly myth crests from delves

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but the bonus crests are a one time thing

sacred oyster
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i meant the ?/?? boss, so no real rush to get it done tonight then if its not repeatable

strange onyx
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anything i can do better?

balmy condor
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Yeah you could do more damage

strange onyx
#

Fuck!

#

Put more damage into our sims then

balmy condor
#

I’m trying

strange onyx
#

Thats what I thought! Back into the sim mines!

#

I need us beating sub by noon tomorrow

coral ibex
#

send this user to the penis explosion chamber immediately

mortal drum
#

skoop whats the repeatable quest you were talking about for delve renown

latent kernel
mortal drum
#

so he can pull up on tuesday night raid with his sexy myth crafted dagger

latent kernel
#

so its just a giga optimization thing where you get something 24hr earlier than you would normally get it

fresh kelp
#

that's not sadge

hazy sundial
#

How can i cap on myth crests this week ?

balmy condor
fresh kelp
#

why has he been hydraulic pressed

mortal drum
#

./s

balmy condor
runic bronze
#

Hey, how does the new Crimson Tempest work? Like from stealth I use on one target Garrote -> then from atleast 5 combo points Rupture -> and then if I use Crimson Tempest those Garrote / Rupture are suddenly on other targets?

balmy condor
runic bronze
#

Ah ye "up to 2 other enemies"

plucky ember
#

or do i drink more

balmy condor
#

No, we’re rogues so you press the buttons faster

plucky ember
#

shit

strange onyx
#

Its that easy for us

plucky ember
#

currently dealing with a guild that cant keep the fear out of the hwole group in the twin dragon fight

#

"but how would i know that i had iit on me!???!?!?"

balmy condor
#

Hmmmmm

plucky ember
#

yeah they aint smart, but they love makeing fun of the rogue who cant pronounce english Js

#

fuck Js btw

#

30 years and still pronounce them like a swed

strange onyx
#

Jøst præctice

plucky ember
#

i smell danes

strange onyx
#

I would never be that poor

weary stump
lyric grail
#

anyone here using klicker`s poison reminder and cant click the poisons to apply them?

strange onyx
viscid spear
tranquil birch
#

Is there any fight in the raid where yall are taking the full ST build currently?

balmy condor
#

Vorasius is the only real contender

storm forum
#

I was playing it on saladbar cause the orbs always died before getting to melee and the shades died insta

#

but that might be a comp/tank thing

storm forum
#

what's the addon we use for /simc again?

frosty cedar
#

simulationcraft

storm forum
#

ty

coral ibex
#

hm you are simming 4k more than me with less ilvl

sharp grove
#

Guys do we envenom before cds or doesnt matter?

frosty cedar
frosty cedar
#

backshotbot is the goat thats why but fr idk why. better trinkets? you also have only 1 embellishment

coral ibex
#

yea maybe the embellishment is worth 5%

frosty cedar
#

my race does more damage, you have cheaper enchants, cheaper gems, my trinket is better , 1 embellishment

#

thats likely why

gleaming geyser
coral ibex
#

i didnt know diaper babies were so strong

#

i thought mag orcs were best

latent kernel
gleaming geyser
latent kernel
#

oh, is their racial good for sin or no?

#

i also thought maghar was best

normal mist
#

Probably is but who cares

gleaming geyser
#

dracthyr or bust

coral ibex
#

so after 50s of combat they just have +50 main stat

#

yea seems strong

normal mist
#

But who actually wants to play that shitty character model

coral ibex
#

i would never play coughing baby

frosty cedar
vital flicker
#

why does the emberwing feather say it gives more haste in sims than it does ingame?

split veldt
#

muh 4% move speed tea

#

😭

stuck lodge
#

if I was going to run t9/10/11 delves, which is easiest on rogue?

analog field
#

sub

stuck lodge
#

which delve

analog field
#

idk

#

but sub is fast for all

warm vortex
#

So

#

heroic boss dropped second daggers

#

Take a wild guess what happened

stuck lodge
#

gratz

warm vortex
#

I feel really bad as i also got the mail helmet

lethal arrow
stuck lodge
#

ty

near valley
next dust
#

What class are you

warm vortex
next dust
#

Mail rogue !

#

Ah

#

Makes sense

ebon quest
#

i have a potentially stupid question....does bone spike still exist and if so in what form?

coral ibex
#

nope

ebon quest
#

hmm that's odd because i have a buff for it somehow

#

like it's still showing up as a buff i have....

coral ibex
jovial idol
#

Are you in Shadowlands?

coral ibex
#

it is still a covenant ability iirc

royal lantern
coral ibex
#

just not a rogue ability

royal lantern
ebon quest
#

i am not....i'm in eversong woods

#

right outside silvermooon

humble verge
ebon quest
#

so i guess my game just wants SBS to live on forever

severe meadow
#

Haranir till the day I die..

#

@thorn thorn bitch

static glacier
#

gang we jestermaxxing

#

playing outlul on alleria 4fun

viscid spear
humble rose
#

Quick question, for the panda racial, does it work with any food buff? And it essentially doubles the gain? And it works in both raids and m+?

normal mist
#

Basically

#

Pandas eat good

humble verge
#

i know a lot of people have had the issue

thorn thorn
#

Himbuwu

severe meadow
spice spire
#

What if I just filled u

#

😈

royal lantern
snow kindle
spice spire
#

Wanna recheck that champ

royal lantern
#

i wanted to cheat out another pic

spice spire
#

Not today bozo

severe meadow
warm vortex
spice spire
#

😈

humble verge
snow kindle
#

i do prog 2night hope thats dont happen

humble verge
#

killed her now

#

now for another kill

past bobcat
#

Anyone use arcui and know if you can change the color of pandemic glow?

coral ibex
#

sounds like some bullshit cybernetic enhancements, not in my world of warcraft

onyx crane
#

man if I managed my cd's a bit better I could have had a 50 parse on chimaerus :C

#

I suck :C

#

I am gonna delete my wow account now!

warped moon
#

🙂

#

dont give up!

boreal lichen
#

how much % dmg buff is the 2set and 4set in single target ?

uneven copper
severe meadow
#

Usually boils down to misplaying

coral ibex
#

its just a 5m single target sim

severe meadow
#

I mean 35k seems a bit low either way, no?

coral ibex
#

yea i just mean that there hasn't been a 5m no movement patchwerk fight in many expansion

#

i wouldn't expect any fight log to resemble this sim

uneven copper
#

It is, and its probs more 40-45k.
But still, getting the “50k dps min. For this raid” is rough, when i cant pump more out..

Donno if this link works (not used to logging) and i just recently learned how to upload logs, so it wont show all bosses logs unfortunately

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/id/87845442

#

Ye only logged for HC. But it shouldnt matter i guess.

shut sand
#

Play diff class

#

Ez

uneven copper
#

Not paying 10 euro a month to not play my fav class/spec haha

warm vortex
#

This is what a dagger stealer log looks like

severe meadow
#

I took a quick glance at the opener

#

I would highly suggest looking over the wowhead guide or study some other logs on it

#

My logs are tweaking actually, for some reason it showed you threw KB before DM xd

#

oh wait no, you did do that

analog field
#

If you are looking at the events it always shows like this

#

so maybe it is not

#

But I also saw many dead GCDs

severe meadow
royal lantern
analog field
# severe meadow

yeah it shows like this but it doesn't mean KB was first 😂 it shows like the first dot of DM or something

warm vortex
#

Oh btw

#

try

#

It actually happened

royal lantern
analog field
#

more like 3/3 but yeah close to that

strange wolf
# severe meadow

so is it kingsbane or deathmark first. i keep seeing others do something else

analog field
#

DM first always

severe meadow
#

DM first yeah

strange wolf
#

okey

#

so i do box dm and then kb

severe meadow
#

and optimally you envenom before DM

strange wolf
#

and thats correct?

severe meadow
#

Dm - Box - Kb

#

But Box before DM isn't that much different

strange wolf
#

also i have a aoe question. idk how to do aoe on assa yet. (just think of me as a noob)

#

what do i do to actually do dmg

uneven copper
analog field
#

You can read the guide and the faq here in discord. These things and many more are fully covered

frigid aurora
#

box?

severe meadow
frigid aurora
#

oh. nvm.

severe meadow
#

I could scour all of it but the opener itself can kinda explain some things

#

and I could be wrong, but were you running imp garrote?

uneven copper
severe meadow
#

Something you can add in is an envenom before DM

gray raven
severe meadow
uneven copper
severe meadow
#

This is the more ideal opener

#

(They're not running imp garrote)

#

I want to say Whispyr had the original rotation without envenom

#

before the DM

uneven copper
#

Aight. Ill try - can the DM-KB really change that much dps wise? Like stable 50k+ (and also that i do stuff right)?
Its often the long fights i fall down in dps.

Anyway, ill try it tomorrow. Thanks for the time 💪🏽.

severe meadow
gray raven
#

Oh I figured the second garrote was enough off the rip. . Didn’t think about giving a few gcds and then doing it again.

night delta
severe meadow
warped moon
#

hello fellow saboteurs, what enchant do i put on my farstriders mercy ?

warped moon
#

idk what that means

analog field
#

just put main stat

warped moon
#

i thought main stat too

severe meadow
analog field
#

otherwise use Sims to determine

warped moon
#

but this guide says berserkers rage

night delta
warped moon
#

ok ty main stat it is

severe meadow
#

Thats for the BiS setup in which rage simmed the best

vivid seal
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
severe meadow
#

But for your stats it could be different

uneven copper
spice spire
#

We also have blindside during this time

severe meadow
#

So those poisons go directly into ramping your KB

#

if you KB before DM, you lost the ramp

spice spire
#

Also just checked vora so grain of salt type shit.
But you’re also low on your uptimes (rupture, garrote, envenom) and you overcapped a bit of cp

severe meadow
#

Calling this mf Zac, like QUAKE said

spice spire
#

Dog?

uneven copper
#

Ahhh alright. Thanks chief!

Ill test everything tomorrow 💪🏽😎

spice spire
spice spire
#

I got worse 😈

strange onyx
#

No thanks to you guys

#

No tips in here

spice spire
#

Buddy I got a tip for you

quaint nimbus
spice spire
quaint nimbus
#

Lmao that’s a good emote

gray horizon
#

Anyone been noticing a weird GCD lag so far this xpac

#

Keep ending up overcapping CP because of it

strange onyx
#

Nah

jaunty sky
#

In overworld definitely

#

Not happened in dungeons or raid yet

warm vortex
#

Please

spice spire
#

Sorry king

warm vortex
#

I don’t have nitro but this is one for survival hunter

warm vortex
#

I just learnt what old blindside was

#

That sounds so fuckin cool

spice spire
#

You mean when dispatch was an execute?

gray raven
#

fellow wangbar enjoyers can we set it to change how many points we finish with per spec?

charred nest
#

we know which will be the best after patch tmr?

#

which spec

coral ibex
#

BOOM or DOOM???

strange onyx
waxen oyster
#

not rogue

rugged basalt
#

unholy

onyx rock
#

No need for Nitro. Just use Vencord.

last skiff
#

Rogue is cook

#

Juste choose a bl class

warm vortex
last skiff
#

Hunter survival spy

azure carbon
jaunty sky
#

Or the world boss is

#

Or voidstorm in general

graceful grove
#

hows sin feeling in world content?

strange onyx
#

Good

graceful grove
#

says the loa of misinformation

frosty cedar
#

Bad

severe meadow
#

Holy, two worlds colliding..

onyx crane
#

is rogue HP supposed to be low?

#

I get constantly slapped by the ?? delve boss at 251 ilvl

frosty cedar
#

we dont get fancy hp increases like other classes unfort

onyx crane
#

I have 308k

severe meadow
#

I mean, having 30k more doesn't help that much for 150k+ swings

#

I have uh, 323k at 257

lucid rune
#

hybrid raid build is muti on 1-2 targets

#

?

wraith knot
lucid rune
#

FoK 3+?

#

and then m+ build is FoK 2+?

severe meadow
#

Blindside 3, no blindside 2

frosty cedar
frosty cedar
#

sry my working hours are 7 - 10:30 ST Thursday and Monday every week, you missed it

severe meadow
charred oyster
#

100 parser on multiple bosses has this opener on multiple bosses, do we know why he mutilates 4 times like that?

plain thistle
#

thats 2 mutilates

lucid rune
#

isn't that muti hitting twice?

charred oyster
#

hmm okay, its just it doesnt look like htat on mine. but yeah that makes a lot of sense

#

thanks im a dumbass

#

wait yeah it does look like that on mine im a 2x dubmass

plain thistle
#

and the current best opener has envenom before deathmark and kingsbane

charred oyster
#

yeah

#

he also uses improved garrote and rizer wire over improved poisons and doomblade

frosty cedar
#

what boss?

brave comet
#

how do i remove that massive icon in the middle that says 3 s

plain thistle
#

hmmmm if that opener is with improved garrote he didnt refresh garrote in the opener

charred oyster
# frosty cedar what boss?

all but crown and fallen king. fallen king he has no aoe, and crown he has doomblade+razorwire+improved garrote but no secondary poisoninmg

#

ure right tho its weird

wraith knot
#

Also what is weird to me

#

Is his damage done with garrote and rupture is so much higher than mine

#

Like ridiculously

#

I guess I was doing the rotation wrong though learned that here yesterday

charred oyster
#

black magic

wraith knot
#

I was going for 7 pts rupture before ct

#

And on ST too 7 pts

#

So learned that at least

#

Still the difference is massive

charred oyster
#

he has 2set so that probably explains the garrote dmg

wraith knot
#

Never lucky

charred oyster
#

me neither havent gotten shi

wraith knot
#

(I've only been playing since a week and a half into midnight haha never lucky tho fr)

charred oyster
#

fr fr🥀

wraith knot
#

Hopefully next raid I will do better

#

Had wrong graphics settings and stuff first raid, second raid on Alleria I had it fixed

#

But I can prolly still do a lot better tbh

#

I'm messing up so much and there is a lot to keep track of

charred oyster
#

hit a 99 on crown today

#

less goo

wraith knot
#

Nice man

#

My dream

charred oyster
#

rerolled rogue this season so pretty happy with it

#

only on normal tho ofc

wraith knot
#

Yeah ofc

hearty grove
#

Hi there. Kinda new to rouge so these questions might sound dumb. At how much cp should you use your first rapture? Also do we always envenom at 5cp? Or do i push for 7 when at 5v

wraith knot
#

That was my mistake, I was doing 7, I think a yt vid guide told me to or something idk

coral ibex
#

there's one case for one hero talent where you envenom on 7

onyx crane
#

me, parsing green

hearty grove
#

So going for a extra mutilate when at 5 cp is waste?

coral ibex
#

yes

wraith knot
#

yep

coral ibex
#

if you have 5, rupture or envenom

hearty grove
#

That explains it. Thanks guys

onyx crane
#

but if you have 4 cps

wraith knot
#

Then I would use improved shiv

coral ibex
#

press mutilate

thorny lion
wraith knot
#

To get 5

coral ibex
#

no

wraith knot
#

No?

coral ibex
#

don't shiv for 1cp at 4cp

wraith knot
#

Damn I learned another thing

charred oyster
#

just garrote

#

it gives 1

onyx crane
#

what about fok for

coral ibex
onyx crane
#

or too much ngr for low dmg

coral ibex
#

fok on 2, 3 with blindside talent

hearty grove
#

Another question. How much time remaining on rupture should i refresh in order to min max it? Same with garrote

thorny lion
coral ibex
#

7s on rupture, 5s on garrote

#

its 30% of the original application duration

#

7s is 30% of a 5cp rupture

wraith knot
#

Wait yeah no if you get 4 combopts and then you mutilate you get max 7 if it crits right

hearty grove
#

I same Shindigs guide that Said there should be a viseable que but I’m not seeing it. That was really useful to know. Thanks. Was kinda of ashamed to ask.

coral ibex
#

yea in the cooldown manager they should glow

wraith knot
brave comet
#

anyone please tell me how to remove these

wraith knot
#

Bruh can you guys stop teaching me shit for 2 min my brain LMAO

coral ibex
#

like this

wraith knot
onyx crane
wraith knot
brave comet
#

i dont know what that is

wraith knot
hearty grove
coral ibex
#

the glow around the button

uncut dragon
#

for those of us with shit luck on drops, do we lose much crafting a ring with an embelishment instead of the bracers?

brave comet
onyx crane
wraith knot
brave comet
#

i already have them at the top right

wraith knot
onyx crane
hearty grove
onyx crane
#

I use horizontal bars

coral ibex
#

yes

#

the border

brave comet
#

here look

coral ibex
#

we call that a glow

wraith knot
#

And move the main window to a side

#

Is anything in that specific location?

brave comet
#

nothing

hearty grove
wraith knot
#

Da hell

wraith knot
wraith knot
#

Is this with an addon?

coral ibex
#

i use a cdm addon but the native cdm does this

wraith knot
hearty grove
#

So when the border turns red, it means i can reapply without losing out

wraith knot
#

So I should add it to my cooldown manager

wraith knot
#

Quality of life significantly improved wtf

#

I'm gonna log on just to put that shit on there

rugged basalt
#

Looks like CDM and sensei

hearty grove
coral ibex
#

this is ayije cdm

#

i use atrocityui

rugged basalt
#

Is ayije good

bleak star
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
rugged basalt
#

How’s your experience been

coral ibex
#

it works

#

it has some good features

rugged basalt
#

Mmmm okay

coral ibex
#

buff groups are OP

#

like baby weakauras

#

idk if other addons have a similar feature

rugged basalt
#

I might get platynator for m+

#

I’m vanilla with just sensei for now

hearty grove
coral ibex
#

thanks, i got it from a streamer named atrocity on twitch

#

its a widely used ui pack

rugged basalt
#

Their uis sharp

#

Very nice

hearty grove
#

How does it look with raidframes?

coral ibex
severe meadow
#

Paladin named PeePee

hearty grove
#

Yeah i mean where on your screen so you have the frames was the question😂

coral ibex
#

oh bottom left above my chat

hearty grove
#

Ima need a step by step on how to get that ui😂

coral ibex
#

subscribe to atrocity on twitch, go to his discord, download the ui pack, extract it to your addons folder

#

his discord has a detailed instruction and faq

hearty grove
#

You need to be a paid subscriber?

coral ibex
#

technically you only need to sub once

#

unless you want trickle updates to the ui

#

but yes

#

i just use by twitch prime sub on him bc i have amazon prime

#

there are other, free ui's too which you might like just as much

hearty grove
#

I’ll have a look, thanks

coral ibex
#

do people share edit mode codes on wago?

north spruce
#

Wait could this be used to single out implacable and track it properly?

coral ibex
#

"properly"

#

it will still bug when you have both buffs

#

but yea

north spruce
#

I got excited

coral ibex
#

thats a blizz issue

frosty cedar
#

you dont need all that, bartender all you need, behold my venthyr cope UI

coral ibex
#

yea tbf paid ui's made more sense when weakauras existed bc there was a LOT of coding that went in to these ui packs

#

there's definitely less now

#

idc tho converting my twitch prime sub into a ui i dont have to think about works for me

wraith knot
#

Thanks Nooj, I pruned my essential cooldowns bar and added Rupture and Garrote

#

Gonna go test the glowing thing and see if it shows up

north spruce
#

So I gather that your own personal buffs are private? Otherwise an add on could duplicate it and then filter everything except both implac buffs

#

Ig that’s essentially what WA’s were tho right

coral ibex
#

i dont know why cdm addons are unable to do some kind of filtering to address the issue

#

probably that is why tho

crisp sluice
#

When the fuck are they gonna get us track implacable

#

Zzz

coral ibex
#

or maybe it is possible and the addons just need to catch up

#

hard to know

north spruce
#

I think cause they share the same name maybe

#

Idk

coral ibex
#

thats what i thought tbh

north spruce
#

Surely they have unique id’s though

wraith knot
#

Guys do you macro light's potential with kingsbane instead of deathmark in raids or how do you do it? I just realised if I do it with deathmark it won't match up

fallow canopy
#

ngl the workaround truth shared earlier for implacable works well enough

latent kernel
#

Or if stuff lives long enough you can just use it with your 3rd DM at 6 minutes

#

Because realistically you’re probably not going to get to the 15min mark on any fight

wraith knot
#

Makes sense

latent kernel
#

Like if the boss is going to die before your 3rd death mark will come up, then probably pop with your 5th kingsbane, if it’ll live long enough to get value out of the 3rd deathmark probably pop it with that

north spruce
wraith knot
#

He had discord normal icon

#

And it was in this channel talking about implacable

#

If that helps

north spruce
#

Ty ty

earnest imp
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
wraith knot
#

On the single target raid build in Whispyr's guide it uses internal bleeding, is this really better than the 2% crit one?

desert crest
#

You can try and sim it

#

Is very easy to do

wraith knot
#

Right yeah gonna just sim it and see what happens

latent kernel
#

Like both points are super close in damage

wraith knot
#

Oh alright thanks

latent kernel
#

You could even run internal bleeding in m+ if you really wanted to

#

And it wouldn’t really even make a massive difference

wraith knot
#

A whopping 300 dps difference

latent kernel
chilly marsh
#

is garrote bugged? its doing nothign sometimes

wraith knot
chilly marsh
#

sometimes I open with garrote and it dont aplly it

wraith knot
#

wtf

#

Works fine for me

warped moon
#

it plays the sound, starts a gcd, but leaves me in stealth/doesnt garrote

#

i think maybe its some kinda desync or something

wraith knot
#

Hmm

warped moon
#

so if it happens to you just go for another

wraith knot
#

Did you guys optimise graphics for raid settings?

#

And change input buffer?

#

That really helped me a lot with stuff

warped moon
#

i dont know how anything works 😔

#

i can check tomorrow though

wraith knot
#

Was getting hella on my nerves

warped moon
#

oh okay ill try that

wraith knot
#

I used google to find the commands, it's not too complicated