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Öy
The great banana accident reset mine, it would be a shame if I was the only victim of such crime
Weve been suffering through this for 9 years, I even supported you, why do you do me like that

I mean I have one more card I can play. But also Koffing will strike me down for my hubris.
I was banned in whatever time I joined the server
I was here before anyone
This is the truthdom
Im pretty sure I was close to the discord opening
My girlfriend is the actual real owner of RH, but she goes to another school, you wouldnt know her.. And her account got banned so.
The date in my profile also isnt the OG date of when I joined
discord launched on legion? I dont remember exactly
Same As my other raid team that kills Chimeraus in 3 minutes
Thats when it started to pop off at least
Iirc January or February 2016
Btw
Whats a Chimeraus?
Sounds like a pokemon
chimraus my balls
Maybe i need to return to rogue now
Gladly
Evil doggy boss
your rats will miss you 🙁
I mean im still palying hutner
just said
MAYBE survival will get buffed in the m+ tuning
Changing one clown makeup for another, good choice
I've been called a chad much more on my survival than i have on my rogue
man, you are the 3rd Clown makeup spec meownnar
So how does assa fight saladbar or dragons properly
Fury is clown makeup?
Its really good
Not sure what to play on Dimensius yet
Lol
Big real though, who the fuck enjoys playing 1m convoke on multitarget

you are not a real fury warrior, you can still read
I went to The Derek Zoolander Center for Children Who Can't Read Good and Wanna Learn to Do Other Stuff Good Too
Tony, you are banned if you defend 1m convoke
its cool feral could have 1:30 cds and be flexible in raid, too bad incarn is terrible and not worth it
Oop, there we go 👋

I am being serious, does assa rogue go after balls and interupts or do we tunnel boss
Cuz i feel like headless chicken
Its just mega miserable, delaying convoke because popping it at this time doesnt make sense, but that also means you have to delay zerk equally much in 1 m and it just keeps on balling
HOLY FUCKING DOGSHIT
FF being 45 seconds is also so awkward
I mean ideally tunnel boss
Ur balla damage is pretty inconsequential
im going to leave this here with 0 context for you
But it wont kill you to swap since we arent playing deathstalker
like my second tf is ending right as my big damage spell is coming off cd???????
If ever in doubt hit boss, if you good at the game position so you can crimson tempest (optional for good at the game)
Does it really matter tho as long as you get the tigers fury->builder bonus dam
Tunnel, if you have CT and the ball is close tap that shit once I guess
I don't run ct on saladbar and fourhandosaur
Tunnel pure
does the fact feral has a funnel talent but doesnt take it mean funnel is bad?
Fourhandosaur was a name coined by 7 year old daughter of an officer in my guild
Did you atleast watch braveheart and highlander?

kwhat is that a trinket?
Well, you already decided it is a ST boss. What you want me to do?
Delve trinket iirc
btw, why does my RL send us a reddit video about "guild crashing out during raid" and i can see Guy in that video

Because he is in that guild?
Is he crashing out?

Well... Just asking for advice there is very little aoe in that fight
So i went for that
no, fucking clickbait video tbh
the RL just goes "guys its 50 pulls, wake up" lol
Dang I would immediately quit
Aint noone in this world yelling at me like that
Just trying to wrap my head around why I am being so ass at ass
Outside of gear issues ofc
link a log then
Some ppl already play with 4pc
And a female goblin at that
if you're not doing mdi or rwf who cares
I mean about racial lol
Oh goblin racial is kino on alleria
So is shadow step
My gear is utter bollocks tho
@sage basin your pf pic reminds me of an old kinder egg toy
Lol, first time I've heard that
Well it's from like mid 90's so...
Dang, khululy might be as old as sap
Turning 41 in few weeks :c
That looks deadly
How so
Joke referring to how kinder eggs are banned in the US
turning 48 tomorrow
A bad joke perhaps, but I'm doing my best
Ah yeah USA country of the scared
Jokes aside, should I change mains? All the specs/classes I playe are bad atm :c
No one’s that old
Tbh play what you enjoy playing and disregard haters
People who give a fk about other players are the ones who play fury warrior on classic with 20 other fury warriors and think they're amazing
It's not aboyt haters, i just don't wanna feel like sandbagging
That's fair
I don't need to fotm fomo
A couple things I could see from logs is that you have one of your fatebound talents on the wrong thing, you have Destiny Defined instead of Overflowing purse and you're delaying your cooldowns by a longer interval each use - which ultimately made you just lose casts. You're also doing this regularly - which is really bad. You want to puzzlebox before deathmark
no PB is correct like this
between dm and kb
you'd probably want to start the cast sooner but yeah the order is correct
Isn't this incorrect? An discussion earlier was saying you should deathmark then puzzlebox so you don't waste puzzlebox time
(I don't actually know the right answer myself, but I think I saw this before)
When did that change? PB is 20 seconds >_>
counterintuitive but whippy himself confirmed it
Takes 2 sec to cast
pb
yeah it's from the man himself
Okay, disregard that then, my bad didn't see that discussion earlier
Ah the cd thing might be cuz of fight familiarity
Delaying of cooldowns still bad and wrong fb talent
Hey no worries bro you're just tryna help
I also think pb is freaking terrible
So weird
Ficusing too much on what's going on forget to look at my cds
Also on fourhandosaur these cds overlap qith pushback
Tbh I think just not using puzzle box is better for your mental
Can we get an amen
I have puzzlebox and just choose to use anything else lol
umm achkually not playing wow is good for your mental
I have obly ass trinkets atm
I'm still using my veteran void execution mandate instead
Shit we solved rogue
I used it for like 4 or 5 bosses last night and then I dropped an alnseer so I went double passive
I got the spire plume
I'm using this
My vet void execution mandate sims better than my champ plume with my current gear 🥲
At least until I'm used to encounters enough and rotation, I'm new (returning from a long, long time ago in a galaxy far, far away), and I don't want to worry about when to use puzzle box while I'm trying not to die lmao
So i need the coin talent in hero tree and using my kb sooner so the it lines up bettercwith my next mark, and be less of a headless chicken in fights
Won't magically fix everything but, it'll definitely help
Also something that helped me was reducing my input buffer time
First off play what is fun. You're not getting greens cause assassination rogue is bad. it's cause you have room to play the class better.
Ok I looked at your first fight on heroic and compared vs mine. Not that I am amazing but parsed pretty well on that fight:
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Xtr9DBNjFbgZn2Ld?fight=7&type=damage-done&source=147
Your fight duration: 6:32
My fight duration: 5:25
Your envenom casts: 67
My envenom casts: 89
Your rupture casts: 20
My rupture casts: 15
Your melee attacks: 874
My melee attacks: 897
Your garrote casts: 30
My garrote casts: 22
Your mutilates: 85
My mutilates: 83
Your fov: 48
My fov: 12
Your CT 20
my CT - 20
So a lot of this comparison is just to show that you likely are missing out a lot of damage on just ability usage optimization.
- Missing tons of opportunities to envenom. Your fight duration was longer than mine but had 22 less envenoms
- Missing a lot of auto attacks, large chunk of dmg
- Overcasting rupture/garrote and not reapplying at the right time
- Probably misusing CT/FoV during adds phase - I try to make sure the buffs are on the boss, then use CT on the adds. You used 36 more FoVs than I did and you prob were overcapping combo points
Huge part is just combo point management and efficiency honestly.
Anyways thats my noob review hope it helped
I freaking hate the skills queueing
Yeah the difference between my first raid and second raid was massive, I've also learned a lot since I joined this server just by reading randomly and asking random questions.
Give yourself time and get used to stuff. @onyx crane
Been playing assa for nearly a decade, bit slow learner of boss pattern/ability
Plus my haste is quite low atm so regen is not as good as it could be.
Oh right, well same thing different nuance
But I dont feel i over cast rupture and garotte
Mildly from a mathematical viewpoint assuming lostsunglasses is playing perfectly
Mindset of 99% of normies
U gotta be part of the 1%
Max ur dps
Cringe
i wish there was a way to macro stopping movement in all directions and then cast puzzle box
If I hit traing dummy i dps roughly what I sim as
I can help with that
Brother the normies wanna min max and inflict psychic damage on themselves by using that dog ass trinket
!buff
Maybe it's just first week things
For sure
I like to go in blind first week
It makes it much more fun and challenging
Rather the prehearsed
I went in blind too, didn't watch any guides on bosses
The vibes look funny
Bro people dying to same simple basic mechanic on 30th wipe
And raid lead losing it
So funny
I already knew we was not gonna clear heroic first eeek
I don't see how people who think like that believe that people are gonna play better if you pressure them needlessly and yell at them
We never clear heroic first week. We have a few carries in our 15 regular raiders, but Midnight has ballooned the size of our guildies wanting to raid. So we did normal (Alleria was rough) and moved on to Heroic and I can only instruct so many people on where to go when and to not stand in shit at one time.
We had far less wipes on alleria then we had on dragons

On nm i mean
ah yeah ofc hc is way harder than normal
Paragio was saying alleria nm was rough my experience was dragon's was rougher
idk how you can wipe on dragons tbh we one shot it on heroic and it was boring
bro my raid leader last tier sent this message in our raider chat
we're very much human 
lmfao
He's acute one
(Please tell me someone got that one)
(I'm trying so hard bro)
he's a vibes raid leader
In hc the only 2 bosses that are kinda hard are the dragons and alleria
all other kinda fall off
We had dragons at like 15% in splits / some carries
We’re going back in tonight with core so hopefully we get a little alleria in
Yeah we stopped and we will go alleria on tuesday.
my guild didnt kill dragons, then i went and did it and vanguard in a pug
we're doing alleria tonight

But I don't think we can make it. I didn't even craft dagger cause i thought it wouldn't be needed so now I am forced to wait for wednesday
what were your main issues on dragons would you say? we are starting HC tonight
the scaling on that bih is fucked just fyi
30 man or even 25 its feels like its not scaling properly
we run 24
it's kinda of a heal check I would say.
too much aoe going on
We saw crazy improvements switching from 25 to 20 just in case you feel its fucked
we did it as like 26 so maybe scaling issues
I don’t feel like I had that many issues, we just had problems with tank positioning for the most part
Especially for the last phase
We had 30 
There are two really bad overlaps for healers where 2-3 big abilities happen at the same time. If you get to P3 though, it becomes a snoozefest
shii.. i mean if you killed her with 30 respect
I meant for dragons
oh
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In ArcUI, go to Bars -> Custom Bars -> Create New Stack
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Set Max Stacks to 80 and turn off all the other options under Stack Settings & Expiry.
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Make a generator using the Spell Cast Option, tracking Envenom, that gives 15 stacks. This gives 15 stacks each time you cast Envenom.
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Make a second generator using the Aura Gained option, tracking the Envenom buff that gives 5 stacks. This accounts for the fact that the first stack gives 5 more than the rest since you gain Envenom once at the start of the chain, but refreshing it doesn't give you a new instance of the buff, so this only triggers once on the first cast of the chain
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Make 1 spender, using the Aura Lost option, tracking the Envenom buff, that removes 80 stacks. This resets the counter when you lose the Envenom buff
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Adjust the appearance to your liking. Without changing any options, it looks like it does in the screen recording here. If you just want the icon and no bar, you can make the bar invisible and move the duration (not stack) text so it sits on top of the icon.
Since it's not doing anything with the Implacable buff itself, this doesn't get overwritten by the energy regen buff after Envenom drops off. idk if there's an easier way to do this, like I said, but this is what I did and it mostly works. It seems to occasionally bug out, but a /reload usually fixes it

Don't bully blizzard by making better stuff than them bro they are a small indie company with very little experience
im just with pugs but struggling with dragons on normal lol, but ive been topping dps charts just things keep getting messed up on it
ultimately im staying alive so i feel like im doing my part right
oops my bad
though i feel like my dps is meaningless on the ads so ive just being staying focused on bosses
!ui
Assassination UI Imports:
Currently not available. Sharing UI's is not as standarized as it was with Weakauras.
For now, browse the following Blizzard HUD and Blizzard CDM imports on Wago:
This is so fucked up
-# (I'm gonna try it tomorrow)
!macro
Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket
#showtooltip Deathmark
/cast Deathmark
/use 13
Can’t wait to ask whispyr to review my deathstalker puzzle box log
so there is no way to macro puzzle box right?
Nope
Puzzlebox between dm and kb very conveniently pushes the end of kb into the 30% nature damage amp
Which probably means nothing
wowww no love for the team
!fuu
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
i mean we dont raid anymore this week so yeah
i go get my last heroic vault slot and chance at my bis trinket

yeah fuck it - it's just too much of a hassle
That's margin of error, feather could even be better!
gotta solve that puzzle!
Ur solving the fantasy rubix cube
skill issue, cannot solve
Casting the puzzle box stops me from repetitively strafe-dancing around the boss. Automatic dps loss.
we lost weakauras for this


i like the puzzlebox cause u get to scratch ya booty
for some reason this gives me +5 stacks randomly every sec I'm assuming due to the aura gained, I put it on 16 stacks per cast and just accepting the ticks may not be perfectly aligned, in case someone has the same issue
Weird, idk why it would do that, but yeah setting it to 16 per cast works well enough too
Do yall think improved garrote needs to be removed/reworked it feels pretty mid and it makes vanish timing in raid very awkward. They removed/reworked everything else tied to being in stealth it seems a little weird they left this one no?
my biggest gripe right now is that vanish has never lined up with our cds, like you basically hold it for the first 2 minutes of every fight to line up with your deathmark, which is so weird to me bc why am i holding it lol
like i wish there was just some reason to use it with the first deathmark
Master Assassin gave a reason to use it with the 1st one which was nice
Thats a decade old problem at this point, clearly unsolvable 
surely they couldnt just replace imp garrote with shrouded suffocation and then make a new node in that spot or just bring back something they have prev removed 
hot take, give us 2 charges of vanish baseline, and make it so that deathmark gives us improved garrote for the entire duration
idk if this is a hot take or not but I miss sanguine blades 
i didnt even notice it was gone
legit had to look up if it was removed in midngiht or before that
I dont think it would fix anything but I just liked seeing it in my damage breakdown for some reason :p

Me noticing no more bone spike
Felt it in my bones, a lack of spikiness
they took bonespike animation and gave it to dks. Another reason to hate udk
At least they aren't warlocks but true
or ret pallys 
They are kinda warlocks
Full circle
play FB then its fine 😛
He said deathmark not death stalkers mark 😂
oh oops, but both are 2 mins, whats not lining up for you
yeah but you have imp gar at the beginning
so you do t need vanish
so either lose a cast or use it at 30 seconds where deathmark has almost fallen off
right, imp, cd, vanish rigth before next dm
eh i guess if you wanna consider using it sooner
Have anyone tried to shadowstep back to the platform after a knockback at the star fo skyreach?
I do not recommend
shadowsteps been amazing for dragons on spire if you hit it quick enough on kb saves your ass having to run back
I went under the mountain, minus 20sec easy on a m+ trying to unalive yourself
You can easily recraft the mythic one
The only situation where that isnt just completely wasted hero crests is if you are not planning on getting any myth crests for like 1-2 months
ill test this out later. thank you, its well detailed!
Just do a nemesis delve on ?? For free 30 myth crests
Wasted hero crests means youll have to waste more myth crests
I have 35 myth
And you only need to do a couple m+ to recraft mythic later
Wrist
Wrist and cloak are the lowest stat budget slots
how? i thought the hero was capped 100
Does anyone else run out of energy on big pulls? I have an issue when tank like 10 mobs, by the time I’ve spread dots on all of them im out of energy to use envenoms and fok
yes, that is expected, just dont think on it that much and just let it regen. with 10 mobs bleeding, you are doing damage.
pop your DM and watch em melt
doing FOK/ENV obviously once energy allows
I do about 3-4 CT's then dump envenom to allow it to fall off in middle of more CT spam and get some flowing
i didnt found information in faq about the haste so i will ask it here:
Do we have a soft cap (req cap) for haste ?
nope
so stack crit as much as i can?
Sim angle
Ive been doing that but it doesn’t feel very good
Assa likes all stats but they lose value at certain points
haste is still 2nd top secondary stat until the 10% DR period, dont go into 20% DR. Get the "True Stat Values" addon to see the DR points in game easily.
you can still get haste while in the 10% break
We usually want a balance of stats. They synergize with each other very well for us so we want everything, even a little vers at some point.
though you obviously need to balance mastery for aoe
We're not like Disc who just wants haste haste haste haste.
I’ll haste you buddy
Do we have any dif from raid and m+ talent guys?
Any video that i can check it out?
yeah raid you want more ST focus. theres 2 raid specs on wowhead, 1 more pure ST focus, other with some aoe ability
why am i doing 40k single target on sin at 249 ivl bro
what spec? i can pull 80k burst on the m+ build.
I did more than that at like 232
but in raid theres lot more mechanics going on reducing dps
and will vary per m+ fight too depending on mechs
im def having no issues doing good ST dmg
generally only good players on meta classes ever pass me
without buffs it is around 40
that's me just smacking a dummy for 8 min
and without pots consums etc
run raidbots, compare if your numbers match. if raidbots beats you on training dummy sim, you got room to improve your rotation
@dire smelt
Hello chat can i send hero crests on my off hand dagger so it doesnt look so broke?
im still using an adventurer dagger in offhand while rest is champion/2pc hero/vet crafted main cause stupid dagger wont drop from pit.
what a helly u broker than me
I wouldnt personally spend crests on offhand. Its like 1/40th the dps of your mainhand
Or something crazy like that
they were meme'ing lol
Oh, ive seen it asked a lot lol
Like guild was trying to get me to dump all of my hero crests on h dagger and i had to show them the stat weights for them to believe me lol
): what u mean
if it makes you feel any better, was typing something out until "offhand" + their name registered in my head and I got mad I got baited 😠
Lmfao
i dumped my hero into the bracers since thatll then last for long ass time before worrying about myth replacing it.
this how u guys been lookin
Oh buster
i need to get reemployed fr
fricking getting baited at 1pm on a monday
Just realized there probably isn't any sort of free hero crest equivalent now since they changed crafts
you can craft 259 with no crests
you get free 20 hero crests from housing and if you want more they take you out back and shoot you
Don’t you also get crests from the delve boss
yeah i ended up with perfect 80 from delve boss and i guess tier 11 delves and housing
259 just costs sparks
I am so tired of doing 11 delve nemsis caches to cap out on Myth crests
Can also just farm hero crests using prey at nightmare difficulty
Well I meant more the ?? Delve boss
You get 30 from ? Mode and another 30 from ?? Both uncapped. Plus myth crests from ??
I get like 15 every 6 minutes
you need tier 4 to even get crest right?i dont run enough delves, prob not gonna be able to do that
Shoul play 3 times 11 dlevw to get myth or heroic max per week?
oh ffs i gotta go do ? tonight then
i only did ??
yeah farmed out the repeatable quest last week
you have to be smoking crack to spend hero crests on anything other than 3/6 hero track drops
bracer craft you mean?
yes
what is the difference from 259 bracers? in terms of DPS?
isn't it more worth to keep the crests
Are you holding every crest? xd
eh i guess you could argue 80 would have been better in other slot, but overall its something can cross off and be done with for while
I mean send on more important slots
ill be in hero tier keys in what prob 2 days so its like w/e will grind more
The cap is the issue
like 100 per week
i had 120 hero crests and i spent them on 6/6 hero track tier pieces
Yeah I want to wait for vault but I was thinking sending on 3/6 shoulders
still need to go do ? and ?? delve
i didnt get any tier pieces yet
im not converting legs to tier which is what i got hero on.
depends on what you get
if it is the last for your 4set you should 😂
otherwise you wait
i guess, id cry though as i got some nice crit/haste legs, and tier is crit/ver iirc lol
I mean irrelevant, like 0.1 DPS gain?
at my current in DS sims haste has double weight vs vers for me
weights do not exist
you can just sim the 2 legs and see difference
I would not believe it is more than 0.2
no overflowing purse 
Yeah weird I wouldn't have guessed it
Is this true?
So i can spam “?” To cap out on myth and hero crests?
oh so its not even weekly?
you can probably do it weekly for the weekly myth crests from delves
but the bonus crests are a one time thing
i meant the ?/?? boss, so no real rush to get it done tonight then if its not repeatable
Yeah you could do more damage
Thats what I thought! Back into the sim mines!
I need us beating sub by noon tomorrow
send this user to the penis explosion chamber immediately
skoop whats the repeatable quest you were talking about for delve renown
im confused on the point of doing this?
so he can pull up on tuesday night raid with his sexy myth crafted dagger
so its just a giga optimization thing where you get something 24hr earlier than you would normally get it
How can i cap on myth crests this week ?
Is sadge
why has he been hydraulic pressed
think about how good his parse will be on tuesday with his chad dagger while the rest of us are running around with our heroic one
./s
Cause he’s REALLY sad
Hey, how does the new Crimson Tempest work? Like from stealth I use on one target Garrote -> then from atleast 5 combo points Rupture -> and then if I use Crimson Tempest those Garrote / Rupture are suddenly on other targets?
It copies the longest bleeds (usually your main target) onto two other enemies
Ah ye "up to 2 other enemies"
do we just press tthe buttons harderthen?
or do i drink more
No, we’re rogues so you press the buttons faster
shit
Its that easy for us
currently dealing with a guild that cant keep the fear out of the hwole group in the twin dragon fight
"but how would i know that i had iit on me!???!?!?"
Hmmmmm
yeah they aint smart, but they love makeing fun of the rogue who cant pronounce english Js
fuck Js btw
30 years and still pronounce them like a swed
Jøst præctice
I would never be that poor
Are you saying map my rotation to the unlocked mouse wheel and spin at the speed of sound
anyone here using klicker`s poison reminder and cant click the poisons to apply them?
Think it got answered
A certain Jenna say kwa
Is there any fight in the raid where yall are taking the full ST build currently?
Vorasius is the only real contender
I was playing it on saladbar cause the orbs always died before getting to melee and the shades died insta
but that might be a comp/tank thing
what's the addon we use for /simc again?
simulationcraft
ty
hm you are simming 4k more than me with less ilvl
Guys do we envenom before cds or doesnt matter?
we do yeah
backshotbot is the goat thats why but fr idk why. better trinkets? you also have only 1 embellishment
yea maybe the embellishment is worth 5%
my race does more damage, you have cheaper enchants, cheaper gems, my trinket is better , 1 embellishment
thats likely why
at least you`re not a diaper baby
what is a diaper baby
But who actually wants to play that shitty character model
i would never play coughing baby
u telling me ts isnt goated?
why does the emberwing feather say it gives more haste in sims than it does ingame?
if I was going to run t9/10/11 delves, which is easiest on rogue?
sub
which delve
gratz
I feel really bad as i also got the mail helmet
just run the one in silvermoon
ty
they didn't want it hard enough
Survival hunter
i have a potentially stupid question....does bone spike still exist and if so in what form?
nope
hmm that's odd because i have a buff for it somehow
like it's still showing up as a buff i have....

Are you in Shadowlands?
it is still a covenant ability iirc
mechagnome
the race that is well known to be strong, but literally NOBODY plays it, not even the wannabe hardcore minmaxers
just not a rogue ability

so i guess my game just wants SBS to live on forever
when did this happen?
Just give me my coffee, Starbucks kid
Quick question, for the panda racial, does it work with any food buff? And it essentially doubles the gain? And it works in both raids and m+?
p3 alleria
i know a lot of people have had the issue
Imma miss prog next week if you wanna fill in for me..
yes, yes , yes and yes
today is international puppy day and you didnt even give us a george pic smh
i meant like when as in time like rn yesterday or smthn?
Uh?
Wanna recheck that champ
i wanted to cheat out another pic
Not today bozo
HELP?
just now
I'd be the one called quake with how much my legs would be quivering
😈
when i posted that clip, thats when it happened xd
shiiiet
i do prog 2night hope thats dont happen
Anyone use arcui and know if you can change the color of pandemic glow?
sounds like some bullshit cybernetic enhancements, not in my world of warcraft
man if I managed my cd's a bit better I could have had a 50 parse on chimaerus :C
I suck :C
I am gonna delete my wow account now!
how much % dmg buff is the 2set and 4set in single target ?
How are u getting thst much dps?
Cleave or st?
Im 256 ilvl assa, and i roughly land top in start, but decays so fast on raid bosses to like 35-45k?
Post logs and we can probably decipher it
Usually boils down to misplaying
I mean 35k seems a bit low either way, no?
yea i just mean that there hasn't been a 5m no movement patchwerk fight in many expansion
i wouldn't expect any fight log to resemble this sim
It is, and its probs more 40-45k.
But still, getting the “50k dps min. For this raid” is rough, when i cant pump more out..
Donno if this link works (not used to logging) and i just recently learned how to upload logs, so it wont show all bosses logs unfortunately
Ye only logged for HC. But it shouldnt matter i guess.
Not paying 10 euro a month to not play my fav class/spec haha
This is what a dagger stealer log looks like
Imma be real with you
I took a quick glance at the opener
I would highly suggest looking over the wowhead guide or study some other logs on it
My logs are tweaking actually, for some reason it showed you threw KB before DM xd
oh wait no, you did do that
If you are looking at the events it always shows like this
so maybe it is not
But I also saw many dead GCDs
you also make up 48% of Survival Logs allright 
yeah it shows like this but it doesn't mean KB was first 😂 it shows like the first dot of DM or something
iirc for assa its like 4%/4% or smth like that
more like 3/3 but yeah close to that
so is it kingsbane or deathmark first. i keep seeing others do something else
DM first always
DM first yeah
and optimally you envenom before DM
and thats correct?
also i have a aoe question. idk how to do aoe on assa yet. (just think of me as a noob)
what do i do to actually do dmg
Aight thank you - guess DM -> KB is the problem here then. 💪🏽
You can read the guide and the faq here in discord. These things and many more are fully covered
box?
It's probably a few misplays on rotation
oh. nvm.
I could scour all of it but the opener itself can kinda explain some things
and I could be wrong, but were you running imp garrote?
I usually open with garrote > muti > rupt > garrote- buuuut.. that fight was pulled suddenly, so panicked haha.
Ehm, yeah i think, ST talent, and for AoE raid i dont have it. But i think i had it in that fight ye.
Something you can add in is an envenom before DM
What’s the point vs garrote x2, rupture?
Imp garrote refresh
Specifically, i use the wowhead single target setup and the raid aoe setup.
But ill try tomorrow, and see how my DPS changes 😎.
@gray raven to extend the imp garrote
This is the more ideal opener
(They're not running imp garrote)
I want to say Whispyr had the original rotation without envenom
before the DM
Aight. Ill try - can the DM-KB really change that much dps wise? Like stable 50k+ (and also that i do stuff right)?
Its often the long fights i fall down in dps.
Anyway, ill try it tomorrow. Thanks for the time 💪🏽.
Rogue does pretty well on the longer fights because we go sicko mode in execute
Oh I figured the second garrote was enough off the rip. . Didn’t think about giving a few gcds and then doing it again.
how much worse if the previous version ? that opener felt actually fast, setting up env before Dm feels sluggish in comparison
And to answer your question, DM boosts your KB
hello fellow saboteurs, what enchant do i put on my farstriders mercy ?
Sim angle
idk what that means
just put main stat
i thought main stat too
ye, easy mode it and just main stat
otherwise use Sims to determine
but this guide says berserkers rage
no single answer; you should sim it
ok ty main stat it is
Thats for the BiS setup in which rage simmed the best
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But for your stats it could be different
Oh really? Funny i tend to lack behind then… im even using wowhead guides and talents haha.
Isnt it the “sudden demise” talent that works well for execute purposes?
We also have blindside during this time
You apply double poison after DM
So those poisons go directly into ramping your KB
if you KB before DM, you lost the ramp
Also just checked vora so grain of salt type shit.
But you’re also low on your uptimes (rupture, garrote, envenom) and you overcapped a bit of cp
Blindside like Zac said, Sudden Demise is more of talent we don't take anymore
Calling this mf Zac, like QUAKE said
Dog?
Ahhh alright. Thanks chief!
Ill test everything tomorrow 💪🏽😎
I’m sentencing you to another year of egirl pfps
Bro that emote is cursed
I got worse 😈
Buddy I got a tip for you


Lmao that’s a good emote
Anyone been noticing a weird GCD lag so far this xpac
Keep ending up overcapping CP because of it
Nah
I don’t have nitro but this is one for survival hunter
DMs then big boy
I just learnt what old blindside was
That sounds so fuckin cool
You mean when dispatch was an execute?
fellow wangbar enjoyers can we set it to change how many points we finish with per spec?
BOOM or DOOM???
Assa
not rogue
unholy
Do you know about Vencord ?
No need for Nitro. Just use Vencord.
True
Got to stay away from wherever the abundance event is. 😂
hows sin feeling in world content?
Good
says the loa of misinformation
Bad
Holy, two worlds colliding..
is rogue HP supposed to be low?
I get constantly slapped by the ?? delve boss at 251 ilvl
we dont get fancy hp increases like other classes unfort
I have 308k
I mean, having 30k more doesn't help that much for 150k+ swings
I have uh, 323k at 257
Apparently sub has a way easier time since if you shadowdance he hits val instead
Blindside 3, no blindside 2
if you have blindside talented, you mutiliate on 2 and fok on 3. If you dont, you fok on 2
1 backshot please
sry my working hours are 7 - 10:30 ST Thursday and Monday every week, you missed it

100 parser on multiple bosses has this opener on multiple bosses, do we know why he mutilates 4 times like that?
thats 2 mutilates
isn't that muti hitting twice?
hmm okay, its just it doesnt look like htat on mine. but yeah that makes a lot of sense
thanks im a dumbass
wait yeah it does look like that on mine im a 2x dubmass
and the current best opener has envenom before deathmark and kingsbane
yeah
he also uses improved garrote and rizer wire over improved poisons and doomblade
what boss?
how do i remove that massive icon in the middle that says 3 s
hmmmm if that opener is with improved garrote he didnt refresh garrote in the opener
all but crown and fallen king. fallen king he has no aoe, and crown he has doomblade+razorwire+improved garrote but no secondary poisoninmg
ure right tho its weird
Also what is weird to me
Is his damage done with garrote and rupture is so much higher than mine
Like ridiculously
I guess I was doing the rotation wrong though learned that here yesterday
black magic
I was going for 7 pts rupture before ct
And on ST too 7 pts
So learned that at least
Still the difference is massive
he has 2set so that probably explains the garrote dmg
Right, I do not have 2set
Never lucky
me neither havent gotten shi
(I've only been playing since a week and a half into midnight haha never lucky tho fr)
fr fr🥀

Hopefully next raid I will do better
Had wrong graphics settings and stuff first raid, second raid on Alleria I had it fixed
But I can prolly still do a lot better tbh
I'm messing up so much and there is a lot to keep track of
Yeah ofc
Hi there. Kinda new to rouge so these questions might sound dumb. At how much cp should you use your first rapture? Also do we always envenom at 5cp? Or do i push for 7 when at 5v
5+ rupture
always finish at 5+
That was my mistake, I was doing 7, I think a yt vid guide told me to or something idk
there's one case for one hero talent where you envenom on 7
me, parsing green
So going for a extra mutilate when at 5 cp is waste?
yes
yep
if you have 5, rupture or envenom
That explains it. Thanks guys
but if you have 4 cps
Then I would use improved shiv
press mutilate
When u wanna finish at 7
To get 5
no
No?
don't shiv for 1cp at 4cp
Damn I learned another thing
what about fok for
with darkest night when playing deathstalker
or too much ngr for low dmg
fok on 2, 3 with blindside talent
Another question. How much time remaining on rupture should i refresh in order to min max it? Same with garrote
Oh Right didnt play sin that much
7s on rupture, 5s on garrote
its 30% of the original application duration
7s is 30% of a 5cp rupture
Wait yeah no if you get 4 combopts and then you mutilate you get max 7 if it crits right
I same Shindigs guide that Said there should be a viseable que but I’m not seeing it. That was really useful to know. Thanks. Was kinda of ashamed to ask.
yea in the cooldown manager they should glow
Omg I was doing 10 sec on rupture and 8 sec on garrote
anyone please tell me how to remove these
Bruh can you guys stop teaching me shit for 2 min my brain LMAO
like this

weak aura?
Wait what
i dont know what that is
Those are debuffs
I’m looking at the color of the timer or what?
the glow around the button
for those of us with shit luck on drops, do we lose much crafting a ring with an embelishment instead of the bracers?
i dont need those in the center of my screen
if it's and addon check it's settings if it's base wow, go into edit mode
So if you put Rupture on your cooldown manager it glows when you need to refresh?
i already have them at the top right
This is very weird I have no idea why it's there
depends on your method of display
I dont see a glow? U mean the red bordet around rupture?
I use horizontal bars
here look
we call that a glow
If you open edit mode
And move the main window to a side
Is anything in that specific location?
nothing
I see!
Da hell
/reload maybe it's a ui bug?
i use a cdm addon but the native cdm does this
OH I have them just on my bars.
So when the border turns red, it means i can reapply without losing out
So I should add it to my cooldown manager
yes
Quality of life significantly improved wtf
I'm gonna log on just to put that shit on there
Looks like CDM and sensei
Agreed
Is ayije good
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How’s your experience been
Mmmm okay
Really dig your ui tbh. Looks clean
How does it look with raidframes?
Yeah i mean where on your screen so you have the frames was the question😂
oh bottom left above my chat
Ima need a step by step on how to get that ui😂
subscribe to atrocity on twitch, go to his discord, download the ui pack, extract it to your addons folder
his discord has a detailed instruction and faq
You need to be a paid subscriber?
technically you only need to sub once
unless you want trickle updates to the ui
but yes
i just use by twitch prime sub on him bc i have amazon prime
there are other, free ui's too which you might like just as much
I’ll have a look, thanks
Wait could this be used to single out implacable and track it properly?
thats a blizz issue
you dont need all that, bartender all you need, behold my venthyr cope UI
yea tbf paid ui's made more sense when weakauras existed bc there was a LOT of coding that went in to these ui packs
there's definitely less now
idc tho converting my twitch prime sub into a ui i dont have to think about works for me
Thanks Nooj, I pruned my essential cooldowns bar and added Rupture and Garrote
Gonna go test the glowing thing and see if it shows up
So I gather that your own personal buffs are private? Otherwise an add on could duplicate it and then filter everything except both implac buffs
Ig that’s essentially what WA’s were tho right
i dont know why cdm addons are unable to do some kind of filtering to address the issue
probably that is why tho
thats what i thought tbh
Surely they have unique id’s though
Guys do you macro light's potential with kingsbane instead of deathmark in raids or how do you do it? I just realised if I do it with deathmark it won't match up
ngl the workaround truth shared earlier for implacable works well enough
Macro with death mark and then pop it again before using your 5th kingsbane
Or if stuff lives long enough you can just use it with your 3rd DM at 6 minutes
Because realistically you’re probably not going to get to the 15min mark on any fight
Makes sense
Like if the boss is going to die before your 3rd death mark will come up, then probably pop with your 5th kingsbane, if it’ll live long enough to get value out of the 3rd deathmark probably pop it with that
Can you tag, I’m searching and there are like 5+ people in here named truth or something similar
He had discord normal icon
And it was in this channel talking about implacable
If that helps
this one
Ty ty
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On the single target raid build in Whispyr's guide it uses internal bleeding, is this really better than the 2% crit one?
Right yeah gonna just sim it and see what happens
This node is extremely inconsequential, simming it would be best for individual scenarios
Like both points are super close in damage
Oh alright thanks
You could even run internal bleeding in m+ if you really wanted to
And it wouldn’t really even make a massive difference
The illusion of choice lol
is garrote bugged? its doing nothign sometimes
All the pills are the same the illusion is you choose
no
sometimes I open with garrote and it dont aplly it
that happens to me as well but it is fake
it plays the sound, starts a gcd, but leaves me in stealth/doesnt garrote
i think maybe its some kinda desync or something
Hmm
so if it happens to you just go for another
Did you guys optimise graphics for raid settings?
And change input buffer?
That really helped me a lot with stuff
Input buffer is what "queues" your next ability. I hate it, so I changed it from the normal 400 to 250, now it basically doesn't queue anymore
Was getting hella on my nerves
oh okay ill try that
I used google to find the commands, it's not too complicated








