assassination

[tough gorge]

I agree with alot of what Whispyr said in terms of assa is intended to be slow, and about energy, but im referring to one specfic aspect in M+ on large pulls on the set up, lowering CT by a bit makes it easier to ramp at the start. But fair enough, it seems alot of people on here don't like the idea.

[royal lantern]

i mean, once again

that would result in bleeds or bleed related stuff then getting nerfed aswell

[severe meadow]

This feels bad rn because everything dies instantly

Wait until m+

[tough gorge]

That's why if It's too strong for assa to have CT cost like 30 energy then okay, but I was unaware that assa was even amazing in the beta

[severe meadow]

Like as soon as you ramp, everything is dead

[royal lantern]

and then it goes into "why do i need to spread bleeds when all my dmg is spatter cleave, envenom the spec lololololol" again

[waxen oyster]

hey

call it what it is

[thorn thorn]

Most dot specs have something throttling their ability to mass spread bleeds with Feral being the notable exception

[waxen oyster]

green bladeflurry

[thorn thorn]

Shadow is target capped on tentacle slam and beyond that you are capped by cast time

[tough gorge]

I wasn't referring to M0s, Im aware everything falls over too quickly

[thorn thorn]

Ontop of tentacle slam being kind of just a shit ability

And aff is doing the old fashioned multidot with cleave hits

[severe meadow]

I mean, raid is the same way if that’s what you’re referring to

[thorn thorn]

multidotting isnt much of a thing since the relevant specs have some medium to make it easier

[storm forum]

Tentacle slam makes me so mad sometimes. The animation is sick but holy shit does it piss me off cause the hit box doesn't make any sense

[crystal vault]

!buffs

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1340517677973635152/1484704581362651366/image.png?ex=69bf3264&is=69bde0e4&hm=d107345329547c4c2447c754851eb4e9e5751085af4bff69a8e80a3fd6011f31&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[thorn thorn]

Shadow literally cannot dot the entire pull in AA because they will spend literally half the time casting vampiric touch on everything

But at least assa has CT with no cd and only an energy cost

[tough gorge]

I was referring to M+ (whicch I know hasn't happened yet) just future talking. Perhaps it won't be an issue, I've mentioned I dont know beta performance if others have noted any difficulty

[thorn thorn]

And you can just "bank" tea charges for the really big pools if its really that much of an issue

[severe meadow]

I’m confused on how we’re complaining about something we don’t have yet

[storm forum]

I can't wait for AA m+

[severe meadow]

Personally I feel like it’ll feel better in m+

[velvet vault]

can someone copy a cleave raid talent here ?

[royal lantern]

literally just open wowhead man lol

[severe meadow]

No I’d rather spend the same amount of time asking in here

[storm forum]

I didn't realize it would block of text like that lol

[severe meadow]

[thorn thorn]

I prefer to ask whispyr about images from wowhead

[cunning needle]

ask him about why he hasnt added pawn strings yet

[storm forum]

I just realized the wowhead guide isn't linked anywhere

[cunning needle]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Guides:

• WoWhead - by Whispyr
• Method - by Whispyr
• Icy Veins - by Seliathan

[cunning needle]

[storm forum]

Oh

Damn that's crazy

[cunning needle]

it's okay young one, you have lots to learn

and plenty of time to be bittere and jaded

[storm forum]

I've been here since legion......

[cunning needle]

legion baby

[storm forum]

Yeah it's only been 10 years

My game time can't even drink and drive yet

[cunning needle]

i play with a guy who was born later than wow

its so much fun giving him shit for it

[velvet ridge]

LETS GO BB WE ARE ON THE BOARDS FOR H COSMOS

[storm forum]

Are those the only four assa parses?

[ocean garden]

perfectly adequate

[cunning needle]

[velvet ridge]

:) yes

[storm forum]

[velvet ridge]

@cunning needle you put green parser, nah im straight greys

[storm forum]

Can't doom, our spec is capable of getting week one aotc

[cunning needle]

nah mate dont sell yourself short, 25% is still green

[spring moat]

80+% without interacting with apex... that normal? lol3

[storm forum]

Ignoring apex is only like 1.5% worse or something, it just kind of happens naturally most of the time.

[coral ibex]

[cunning needle]

[coral ibex]

got an LFR piece

[cunning needle]

high roller indeed

[ocean horizon]

so i'm a disgusting outlaw main player, i played some sin in keys and like the slower apm playstyle, so i tried sin in dreamrift and got this abomination of a damage breakdown

[coral ibex]

so now i just get cata charges from any activity completion right?

[ocean horizon]

it's so devastatingly bad that i crack up at this and i don't even know where to start

[coral ibex]

or a chance to

[cunning needle]

brother im no assassination expert but i dont think auto attack should be at the top of the list

[ocean horizon]

that's what im saying

i hope that picture make you laugh as much as it does me

[cunning needle]

it definitely did

thank you for this

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Guides:

• WoWhead - by Whispyr
• Method - by Whispyr
• Icy Veins - by Seliathan

[cunning needle]

as always check the guide

[ocean horizon]

i dont even know where to start lmfao i was out of energy basically the whole fight, my garrote and rupture had 100% uptime, i envenom at 5 cp, and i send kingsbane and deathmark together

[cunning needle]

were you... pressing mutilate?

[ocean horizon]

i read the guides and did the opener and stuff

yea

[cunning needle]

okay thats good

[ocean horizon]

i had blindside so i also press ambush as well whenever it procs

[cunning needle]

did you press CT to spread bleeds onto adds?

[ocean horizon]

yeah

[cunning needle]

okay im all out of ideas

[ocean horizon]

although the small adds usually like instantly die and i dont have sudden demise, i just have the raid build that's recommended on this discord

[cunning needle]

just some play sub. it's very easy now

[ocean horizon]

that's why it's extra funny to me lol i felt like i did everything i'm supposed to and fucking auto attack comes out on top xdd

[thorn thorn]

[cunning needle]

i was going to ask if you had poisons on, but no they are on the chart

[thorn thorn]

Do you have a log

[ocean horizon]

i didnt log but maybe someone did, let me check

i need that picture framed lowkey that shit was so peak

[balmy condor]

Agony

[ocean horizon]

why is it not good

[balmy condor]

It’s really bad

Not the reason why the rest is so wonky to be fair

[ocean horizon]

i was ab to say, i can assume the embell is shit but its still 259 dagger

[balmy condor]

I am assuming with that low poison damage they like had to have fallen off halfway through the fight

[cunning needle]

[balmy condor]

But the dagger is basically 2 wasted sparks sadly

So still pain

[tough gorge]

your poisons had to have fallen off and you didnt notice

[balmy condor]

Yeah that’s my suspicion

[ocean horizon]

i sadly cannot find the log 😭

but im also a boomer when it comes to finding logs, my character is eraduckated-thunderhorn if any of you guys are more savvy and are curious

[cunning needle]

no logs unforch

[ocean horizon]

hmm im not too sure but i did log on with no poisons so

[thorn thorn]

Already looked, its blank

[ocean horizon]

shit its too funny

[thorn thorn]

We may never know

[cunning needle]

that'll do it

[ocean horizon]

my guildies gave me so much shit

[cunning needle]

honestly happens to the best of us

[ocean horizon]

and im laughing like crazy

its so funny

fucking auto attack 💀

[tough gorge]

do you normally play outlaw or sub? Maybe because poisons are not as emphasized you don't check as often

[ocean horizon]

im an outlaw andy

[tough gorge]

I'm sure there is an addon for it as well if you do it regularly

[ocean horizon]

i tried sub but i sadly am not 12 years old to like edgy ninjas anymore

[cunning needle]

understandable

[coral ibex]

but you are 12 years old enough to pog over pirate stuff

[cunning needle]

pirates are cool

[viscid spear]

https://tenor.com/view/robbie-rotten-stefan-karl-lazy-town-pirate-parrot-gif-12378184

[coral ibex]

listen the everyone is 12 theory is very strongly supported

i dont mean it perjoratively

[cunning needle]

officer? yes this comment right here

[balmy condor]

What does bro mean by that

[hazy sundial]

Brother upgrade that weapon

[coral ibex]

?

to what

im recrafting it on tuesday to myth track

[storm forum]

i think me saying "im 12 btw" to my guild is a 12 yr old bit now

[coral ibex]

spending hero crests on a weapon is literally insane

[balmy condor]

And you’re not insane?

[hazy sundial]

Champion track weapon

[balmy condor]

Crests on offhand

He has a billion other champ track items he could spent crests on before that dagger

[coral ibex]

nah i got a hero sword remember

it was a free upg

you can't fuck with me

[hazy sundial]

Weapon upgrade is not the #1 prio?

[coral ibex]

not for hero crests

[balmy condor]

Also yes mainhand, not offhand

[coral ibex]

when you can recraft a myth weapon on tuesday

[balmy condor]

Offhand dagger is the least efficient slot in the entire game

Across all classes

[hazy sundial]

Alright im not gonna talk ever again

[coral ibex]

its fine my guy

[hazy sundial]

Is that the case for assa only or all rogue specs?

[balmy condor]

All rogue

[storm forum]

the only thing there is to miss from stat weight sims was the big fat "main hand damage" and "off hand damage" or whatever and main hand was like +10x your best stat and off hand was like +1.3 flat

[sweet ledge]

What % haste do we start getting dr ?

playing fatebound if it matters

[coral ibex]

just equip whatever sims highest

you'd have to have an enormous amount of haste for it to matter rn

[storm forum]

the dr is small enough that we don't really consider it as like a breakpoint to avoid. it's also slightly different for each stat, I think haste is like 30%/19900 rating or something.

actually i think the 20k or whatever was pre-squish, idk what it is now

1320 is the new rating*

[ocean horizon]

yeah i double checked my poisons and its looking a lot better lmfao

although idk auto attack still doing a fuck ton lol

[keen spruce]

dr isn't real

it can't hurt you

[latent vale]

Yeah autos in midnight just do a ton, but that does look a lot better. If you have a log or other fights maybe that would give a better idea

Oh

Erm

[balmy condor]

Wrong phone

But yeah

Autos are just tuned crazy high for some reason

Especially if you roll hella heads coins

That can happen

[keen spruce]

What is 1000x more important is the opportunity cost of whatever stat you're giving up and, at least for rogue but also for many other specs, you'll simply want other stats more depending on your gear at that moment well before the theoretical DR would factor into gearing decisions

[storm forum]

also if you want a stat so bad ur passing the dr threshold, you probably want it enough to not care about the dr
-# (looking at you VW disc priest)

[solar wyvern]

Boss fucker 9000

Thats like, half of a warlock!

:^)

[rancid anvil]

Which of the two whispyr guides is most up to date. The talents and suggested builds are a bit different between each

[low hare]

i mean, im not dissapointed

[last carbon]

Is pooling essential ? or is it a micro mechanic

[low hare]

but it could be better, im hoping hte 3% is enoujgh

[low hare]

essential

but you need to learn when to pool vs when you can just go, thats the key really

!buffs

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1340517677973635152/1484704581362651366/image.png?ex=69bf3264&is=69bde0e4&hm=d107345329547c4c2447c754851eb4e9e5751085af4bff69a8e80a3fd6011f31&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[balmy condor]

wowhead will always be more updated

[sand elm]

do u guys start attacking once u trigger the implacable regen or pool till the buff runs out assuming u dont cap energy

[balmy condor]

You generate combo points while envenom times out so you can instantly envenom again

[sand elm]

so save using envenom till the buff has run out?

[balmy condor]

Yeh you gotta to get the proc

[balmy condor]

3 and 97 makes 100

[spring moat]

Death tends to throw off numbers. Lmao

Idk if guilds strat for chim is whack but I could not get good damage on adds. Stupid hunters

[fathom flax]

How 2 puzzle box good like

envenom > box > mark > kingsbane?

[sand elm]

i fucking haaaate envenom > box

if u only get 5 combo points then the envenom buff runs off before u can hit it again

but its whats suggested

[balmy condor]

Env dm box kb

[fathom flax]

tyty

also hello whispyr been a while miss u love your conten

[balmy condor]

Ty

[fathom flax]

im stepping back from raiding this tier so we wont be competing again

[buoyant herald]

have we shifted a bit if damage outside of CDs now? usually the on0use pvp trinket sims quite well but it's quite a bit behind for me right now at same ilvl

[supple compass]

can sin share gear with outlaw

[solar wyvern]

Ye they both enjoy crit/haate

[burnt venture]

!buffs

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1340517677973635152/1484704581362651366/image.png?ex=69bf3264&is=69bde0e4&hm=d107345329547c4c2447c754851eb4e9e5751085af4bff69a8e80a3fd6011f31&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[old obsidian]

D:<

[bright turret]

crown is def the sin fight

[jolly stirrup]

Meanwhile I have gotten nothing out of LFR, a full normal clear and the first 3 bosses heroic

Grats tho

[livid ruin]

!buffs

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1340517677973635152/1484704581362651366/image.png?ex=69bf3264&is=69bde0e4&hm=d107345329547c4c2447c754851eb4e9e5751085af4bff69a8e80a3fd6011f31&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[glossy wolf]

Hey, I’m new here but my friends 211 ilvl aff warlock is outsimming my 246 ilvl ass rogue. Am I doing something catastrophically wrong?

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/kX3gyohJcE2RoGDLUawxrY

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/8ZbuX3NhvfwnEfUQsDprBf

[balmy condor]

nope

if you sim it with raidbuffs you'll pull ahead

because we just get more from things like skyfury

but it do be like that

[sharp viper]

[spice sentinel]

just wait for that 4% buff

we gonna be eating GOOD

Ass is fixed

[boreal lichen]

What’s the min max play for assa on the 4th boss in void spire (2drakes) ?
Do we stick to 1 target full normal rotation or do we swap constantly to have 2x bleeds ticking?

[balmy condor]

you stick to 1

[boreal lichen]

K, do you play this boss with crimsen tempest or without it ?

[balmy condor]

with

[jolly stirrup]

Even if it doesnt reach? Just for last Phase when they are next to each other?

I was seriously struggling trying to get both have bleeds

But good to know that we just stick to one. Saves me some headache

[balmy condor]

it reaches orbs

[jolly stirrup]

[glossy wolf]

So I simmed it full buffs enchants and potions and I’m only 3k ahead single target of someone 35 ilvls below me and playing aff

I’m dooming so hard rn

[spice sentinel]

bro

just wait

add 4%

[sharp viper]

trust in the 4%

[glossy wolf]

Lmaoo

[spice sentinel]

you'll be crushing him

[balmy condor]

well you're also simming not in full single target

[sharp viper]

everything is going to be fine

[violet otter]

hey guys - I think I take the ''Raid'' build and not the ''Raid Single Target'' build from Wowhead, since we got no true single target boss?

[balmy condor]

but sims are kinda just

[sharp viper]

top of the dmg meeter

[balmy condor]

not the comparison to make?

[sharp viper]

all the time

[balmy condor]

idk

[glossy wolf]

That is the raid spec of the top parser in salad

[spice sentinel]

i already told officers im getting PI after tuesday

[balmy condor]

yes

[jolly stirrup]

Correct

[violet otter]

thanks ❤️

[balmy condor]

yeah but you're comparing his single target build to an assassination cleave build, no?

[glossy wolf]

I took it from the top salad parse

[balmy condor]

regardless, yes, assa sims low

it literally always has

[glossy wolf]

Ima turn this dagger on myself. But it probably wouldn’t kill me until the 4% buff comes

[sharp viper]

I CAN ONLY COUNT TO FFFFFFFFOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUR

[jolly stirrup]

You would be a good jhin main

[balmy condor]

assassination is literally the better spec on salhadaar literally what is the issue

what are we doing

[sharp viper]

I am abstinent from league, thank you though I assume

[balmy condor]

we're dooming imaginary numbers

the comparison point we're using to giga doom is the same fight where we're already better, and then getting another 4% buff

I don't get it

[sharp viper]

@jolly stirrupwish me luck on LFR tier pieces

[jolly stirrup]

You get all the loot. I believe

Lmk how it went

[sharp viper]

plate and cloth dropped

[violet otter]

Kroluks Warbanner Trinket ist siming higher for than the recommended trinkets...is it because it spawns a dude and pathing and stuff might be not as reliable?

[sharp viper]

looking at some random raid spreads, really makes me wish I rolled a mail class instead of being on the same armor type as the fotm new spec

[balmy condor]

how much higher we talking, cause it's also a flat damage trinket, and those typically do not keep up past normal raid. My warbanner started losing to pretty much everything after getting some ilvl from raid

[sharp viper]

• so many druids

[sudden brook]

Guys assassination might be the spec

im NGL

[balmy condor]

aware

[violet otter]

like this...not sure if I am reading this right

[balmy condor]

link me the sim

[jolly stirrup]

[jolly stirrup]

I feel you

We are also like 12 cloth wearers

I won't be getting shit

Relying on vault fully

And on my warri to get 4 piece in the chill raid

[marble escarp]

So with this 4% will we actually be viable in m+?

[jolly stirrup]

We were viable before as well

[balmy condor]

we're been viable afaik

[marble escarp]

Oh I felt like I was being blown away

[jolly stirrup]

Like of course we are not blasting away in the dungeon, but we do good damage

Also our ST is a lot better than in TWW S3

[marble escarp]

True true

[balmy condor]

m0's kinda fall over

not the greatest comparison point

[jolly stirrup]

Btw is there a hard mode again? Or was that Streets only

[balmy condor]

hardmodes are generally only the megadungeons

of which we currently have none

[violet hemlock]

Hardmodes are usually s2 or later thing

[jolly stirrup]

Got it

Anyone here following League Esport?

[runic hinge]

Is g2 gonna wonner?

[spice spire]

Finals today vs blg after 3-0ing GenG

Kinda hype

[sharp viper]

like why are there alwas so many druids and dhs

put us on a token with shamans and idk evokers

[runic hinge]

Yeah I hope they win tbh. Normally I root against EU/lec but I think it’s probably better for the league esport as a whole if someone from the west wins

BLG hasn’t looked too insane either so I think it’s within their grasp

[jolly stirrup]

Fucking hope so

I legit cried of joy yesterday

[zinc frost]

Rip - my raid also stacked with druids and dh

[graceful bane]

!buffs

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1340517677973635152/1484704581362651366/image.png?ex=69bf3264&is=69bde0e4&hm=d107345329547c4c2447c754851eb4e9e5751085af4bff69a8e80a3fd6011f31&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[buoyant herald]

i thought that they did something with drop rate to make the tokens with more classes on them drop more or something

although not that that helps when 15/20 of your raid are leather

[plain thistle]

if they did they forgot to inform that to my guild, 1 tier for leather in both normal and hc

[buoyant herald]

Yeah whatever the case it certainly doesn’t feel that way

[strange onyx]

Its to push you social anxiety players to join a guild

[sharp viper]

current mythic raid roster is:

• 8 leather (3 monks, 2 dhs, 2 druids, 1 rogue)
• 6 plates (2 war, 2 dk, 2 pal)
• 7 cloth (2 lock, 3 mage, 2 priest
• 7 mail (3 evoker, 2 shaman, 2 hunter)
  somehow kinda balanced, some people may drop since trial

[plain thistle]

my guild is 6,7,6,7

[jolly stirrup]

This is us

[balmy condor]

have you considered just looting it

[buoyant herald]

I tried that but I must have done it wrong since it’s not on my character 🙁

[jolly stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/of-course-jim-carrey-funny-gif-12918652202164233594

[haughty flicker]

it worked for me

[sharp viper]

https://klipy.com/gifs/bosnov-67

[vague niche]

is there a workaround for tracking implacable? when i use envenom during the energy boost, it won't show the stacks anymore

[strange onyx]

Yes

You quick glance at your buffs or learn the 20, 15, 15, 15, 15 in your head

[vague niche]

ok so there is no workaround, thanks

[civic trellis]

workaround 1: count
workaround 2: reroll
workaround 3: ignore mechanic
happy to help

[tiny heron]

Hey guys ! I started leveling a sin rogue for the first time and i love it
But is it normal that my aoe feels weak during dungeons? Ik the tuning is bad during leveling but it seems that i'm irrelevant for pack of ads

[balmy condor]

how much level are we talking about

20 or like 85

[tiny heron]

50 atm

I'm main shaman but got tired of ascendance so i give rogue a try

[balmy condor]

hm, you should have enough aoe available then I would think

probably some fucky scaling nonsense or just untuned leveling

your tree probably vaguely looks like this, so you have caustic and crimson tempest

once you get kingsbane and the bleed stuff on the bottom right it'll probably improve a bit but yeh dunno

the core is there

[tiny heron]

i got crimson tempest but honestly ads dying so fast i'm feeling useless
ST on boss is good tho

[jolly stirrup]

In before hes not Assa but liked this channel the most so he asked here

Darn

[tiny heron]

Thanks i'll use this !

[balmy condor]

the adds dying too fast is just eternal problem of dot spec until mythic+ frankly

that won't go away any time soon

[tiny heron]

i'm assa, i left shaman due to burst windows ascendance and i dont want to play sub for example 😭

[tiny heron]

yeah probably going to be used to it
thanks a lot for the tree i might have miss some key talents

[balmy condor]

for the record it's not optimized really at all, assa has a lot of points you can kinda flop around

big fan of recommending experimentation

[tiny heron]

since i'm a complete newbie on the class i'll experiment a lot thanks !

how about pvp tho? is it good ? Ik rogue is overall good in pvp but is assa tho ?

[balmy condor]

no clue tbh

pvp is for the dogs

[tiny heron]

lmao i'll check that then, thanks again for tips

[balmy condor]

np

[frosty cedar]

i pvpd only to get 4 set this week and I left feeling disgusted

[fervent cipher]

!loot

[plain thistle]

no loot for you

[balmy condor]

Curse of ra

[runic hinge]

gonna be a fun tier

[haughty flicker]

if thats not the best case to reroll to spriest ive ever seen idk what is

[runic hinge]

yeah

Idk, rogue is too comfy, i love step and cloak too much

say it with your chest @drifting cloud

[violet ivy]

Guys, is there any way to track Implacable apex buff? Blizzard cd manager sucks bugs when energy regeneration buff overlaps with stack buff from envenom.

[drifting cloud]

youre close to guaranteed to have 4set in 9days!

the latest

[runic hinge]

true

[runic hinge]

short answer, no, its bugged, long answer if you dont overcap your energy you can wait out the buff and start stacking again after it drops and it'll track again but its a pain and overcapping is a dps loss

[violet ivy]

ty

[frosty cedar]

ive gotten used to counting to 5 and enjoy it, i might be cooked

[coral pivot]

With the update to apex, they did make it so you can't see duration number on Garrote in Essential, right?

[charred oyster]

any bosses where we drop secondary poisoning for a point in fetal concoction/improved garrote?

maybe the beam guy

[wary moth]

how is sin doing in raid atm

[hazy sundial]

Not as good as sub

[coral pivot]

Sub definitely lookng to be meta. Could be an argument for assa on the paladins though

[viscid aurora]

anyone got puzzle box - deathmark macro ?

[real pike]

Mine hasn't been working

I'm not sure it does

[plain thistle]

you cant

[worn cedar]

You dont use macro with puzzle box

[crimson plover]

#showtooltip Deathmark
/castsequence reset=4 13, Deathmark

mine has a blood fury cast at the end too so not sure if you need to amend the reset time because of that

but you can just spam that and it will do everything in the correct order

[frosty cedar]

deathmark first then puzzle box is the correct order

[toxic meadow]

I’m using Whispyr’s “general raid” build that doesn’t have improved garrote or shrouded suffocation. Does this mean my opener should no longer be garrote, and instead should be ambush?

[frosty cedar]

you still garrote first

[toxic meadow]

Ok. I don’t understand why. If garrote isn’t improved and doesnt net any extra CP’s from stealth, why not ambush for more damage?

[strange onyx]

So you can extend your garrote

[toxic meadow]

Is it to simply get it ticking faster?

Right but with the gen raid build I’m not talented into imp garrote or shrouded suffocation

[royal lantern]

i mean, you want your dots out fast

thats all lol

[toxic meadow]

Yeah that’s sorta what I thought but wasn’t sure

[royal lantern]

do you think that ambush is some big hitting ability? cus it isntt

iirc it doesnt even do more dmg then mutilate really

[toxic meadow]

Tbh I haven’t even checked on a dummy the dmg difference on opener.

[strange onyx]

Also it just builds good muscle memory

[frosty cedar]

garrote with tier set also guarantee applies your poisons too

doesnt really make a massive amount of difference but garrote first I think is technically best

[strange onyx]

Yeah, I feel it so much. Best 2p I ever have had

[coral walrus]

Anyone has any idea why top parsers rogues on crown open with mutilate ? (in guide it says open garrote)

[toxic meadow]

I swapped talents mid raid yesterday and was still using vanish and wondering why tf my garrote wasn’t improved. Then I realized the build I had no longer took it. Then I wondered why I’m even casting garrote on open. But just for muscle memory and to get my dots up asap. And ambush doesnt do a substantial enough amount of damage to use it on open. Thanks all.

[coral walrus]

I should use KB DM then puzzlebox? (rly?)

[frosty cedar]

envenom, deathmark, puzzlebox, kingsbane

[coral walrus]

i checked top 3 rogue parsers on crown on assa and i have an issue. They use Kingsbane then Deathmark

i thought is DM then KB

[frosty cedar]

on normal or hc? im seeing mostly dm then kb

could be to pad a little on the initial adds

[scarlet orbit]

Its also week one and alot of the parses is just gs and tier. The number one on hc has nearly 260 gs and 4p

[lofty elm]

Why

[frosty cedar]

deathmark is a dead global so it wastes puzzlebox time

kingsbane is shorter than deathmark anyway so it still fits in

its a minor optimisation though really

[coral walrus]

it s HC

he uses KB before DM

[frosty cedar]

as I mentioned, the only reason to KB earlier would either be to spatter pad on adds at that time, or to get it on cooldown earlier to potentially get a second cast before the phase if your group is quick, as far as I can see

[coral walrus]

Mhm. Ok. None of them are getting a 3rd cast on KB in first phae from what i have watched. (top3 parses atm on hc)

[frosty cedar]

then again im doing HC on monday so I dont really have knowledge of any of the timings as ive just done it on normal

[haughty flicker]

when you're looking at the order of someones casts use the timeline feature

[clever cedar]

I think DM is the tick, not the cast, he is DMing before Kingsbane

[haughty flicker]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Md1kctGH3BnXACZg?fight=63&type=casts&source=219&view=timeline

he uses dm before kb

https://lorrgs.io/spec_ranking/rogue-assassination/crown-of-the-cosmos

lorrgs is also another good source for seeing when people are using their cds

[coral walrus]

i pressed on timeliens top rght, maybe i dont do it correctly

[haughty flicker]

but you dont really get much context with it so have to use some critical thinking there

[haughty flicker]

go to casts

instead of damage done

[coral walrus]

ah, ok

thanks!

[strange onyx]

Its not really pad as they need to die quite quick and atleast I was saving the cds for a few stacks on the first add

[frosty cedar]

makes sense

[strange onyx]

Let the mob get a few stacks of the debuff -> send cds -> hopefully the add is low enough that it just dies after the first arrow that clears the debuff, but also removes the shield

[coral walrus]

thank you!

[somber fractal]

echo casters talking about how trash rogues are. it's time to doom

[somber fractal]

i dont think ive ever seen rogues so bad across the board and ive been playing since 2004

[spice surge]

Thats a bit hyperbolic

[royal lantern]

not just a bit lol

[haughty pewter]

Allerria was a fun fight this week. next week it'll suck because it'll fall over.

[somber fractal]

can you remember a tier where all 3 rogue specs were this bad

[lofty elm]

Tier has barely started lol

[marble hemlock]

First tier cataclysm, for one. Arguably Castle Nathria as well.

And we don't even know how rogue will be this tier

[spice surge]

Also fwiw people were dooming last tier too

At the start

[marble hemlock]

Ye

They doom every tier

[subtle tundra]

yep

[marble hemlock]

We kinda sucked in emerald nightmare too, but no one cared cause it was a meme tier

[spice surge]

But like, if your definition of "good" is literally at the top of wcl then ye rogue is probably not gonna be that this tier unless it gets more buffs

[marble hemlock]

and other than for cheesing yogg, rogue was pretty mediocre in most of wrath

[spice surge]

But a spec can be good without being the best in the entire game

[severe meadow]

I don't usually go into other class Discords but surely Rogue isn't the worst of the doomers

[marble hemlock]

idk

[midnight mist]

i think sub or assa is gonna be very good on 2nd to last boss

[marble hemlock]

someone should make a tierlist of that

[midnight mist]

(last from void raid)

[severe meadow]

HOLY content

[haughty flicker]

class discord doomer tier list

[severe meadow]

[quaint sequoia]

that's the only definition tho right? Kappa

[midnight mist]

a good prog spec is not neccesseraly topping metters

[marble hemlock]

but anyone saying rogue has never been worse in any tier, has either not played T11, or just glosses over it

[midnight mist]

sub is thanos every tier without topping metters

[haughty pewter]

only 16 kills in the world rn, how much does that go up by reset?

[spice surge]

It will go up significantly before reset

Because most raid guilds raid sundays or mondays

[severe meadow]

ye our third day is Monday

[marble hemlock]

when our only use across like 12 bosses was to gouge adds on sinestra, and to not need healing in alakir p3.

and we could cheese a 1-pull fight with valiona&theralion as sub. but dear god was our damage beyond dogshit

anyway, less dooming, more blooming

youre cute today @spice surge @subtle tundra

[midnight mist]

ty

appreciate it

[subtle tundra]

yaaaay ;3;3;3;3

[spice surge]

[runic hinge]

Where me

[marble hemlock]

you were cute yday, leave some for the rest of us

[runic hinge]

Ok ok

[restive merlin]

Does Poison Bomb no longer show up on meters under the same name, or is it counted as something else now

[somber fractal]

i feel like rogue never gets proper changes because rogues seem so content being bad. go ahead and flame me

[storm forum]

Our smoke bomb is made of copium

[hardy rapids]

I’ve never doomed on assa till this tier I can’t lie

[haughty flicker]

have faith

ive never been wrong in my life

[hardy rapids]

I’ll wait a few weeks to see how it goes

[waxen oyster]

unless rogue is so bad that its not worth for atrophic

its literally whatever

[golden loom]

+15% aura buff on monday dw

[shy axle]

i am unsure if it is even worth to spread bleeds on fights like saladbar or the two dragons. Are you spreading or just trying to splatter some stuff there?

[quaint sequoia]

but it's not fun to not top the meters

[waxen oyster]

Play with worse players

or pugs

[crisp pine]

Im getting twerked on by a windwalker rn

[waxen oyster]

losing to pugs is a skill issue

[crisp pine]

but there's another sin rogue in the group that didn't use caustic for the first boss so atleast I got that going for me

[crisp pine]

I never debated that

[waxen oyster]

paladins is the one boss that genuinely feels horrendous lmfao

[vast osprey]

!buffs

[prisma monolith]

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[golden loom]

did it on havoc in an echo split and the fight felt fun idk

might just be that meeres guy being pretty good at raid leading

[haughty flicker]

that doesnt sound right

[golden loom]

its atleast a 10 times better fight than whatever the fuck soul hunters was

[manic quartz]

any poison reminder addons?

[severe meadow]

If you pay me I’ll send you a reminder every hour

[crisp pine]

Clickable Raid Buffs is kinda cool

[severe meadow]

I think you’re kinda cool

[crisp pine]

<3

[coral pivot]

BuffReminders is also nice. Can be customised to only show yours or any thing you are missing

[boreal lichen]

whats the min max play on the 2 drakes vaelgor&Ezzok when the small adds spawn do we spam crimson tempest or fan ? or 5 cp+ envonom ? in heroic

[severe meadow]

I personally CT’d until my energy go low and swapped to fan

And slammed envenom at 5+

[boreal lichen]

target envenom on boss or on 1 of the small adds ?

[severe meadow]

boss

[toxic meadow]

Anybody have any tips or tricks for Nulleaus ?? as sin?

His melee always gets me even when I’m using feint and evasion on CD. Valera set to heals. Tried the m+fatebound and raid spec.

[fading belfry]

hello why crucible trinket sims so much better then the trinket i have depsite even having lower ilvl its bonus works in raid and dg?

[manic quartz]

Env>dm>box>kb>env right?

[spice surge]

Yes

[boreal lichen]

why 1 env first ?

[storm forum]

want env buff active right at the start of kb

[boreal lichen]

k

[storm forum]

and then you can refresh it instantly with implacable 4 cp

[fossil shell]

Are most sin rogues crafting 2 daggers first? Or 1 dagger and the wrists?

[analog field]

1 dagger and something of lower value

[gentle gyro]

is there some way to get the tracking of Implacable to work correctly or do we just have to suck it and watch the buff bar

[fossil shell]

what if its all things being equal?

[analog field]

depends on the drops you had etc, wrist/belt/feet/cloak are all candidates

[fossil shell]

my gear is full champion, most of it crit haste already, its upgraded as much as crests allow.

I currently have the dagger crafted at 272

[analog field]

you can sim, probably wrists without crests at 259

[fossil shell]

trying to decide on second craft

i can craft a second 272

[analog field]

you shouldnt do 272

wasted crests

craft without crests at 259 and then with myth at 285

[fossil shell]

So then sounds like wrists with embellishment?

at 259 is the play

[analog field]

yeah seems like it

[fossil shell]

Gracias

[analog field]

it's kinda safe, wrist give low stats so they dont matter from 259 -272-285

embellishment should be close to the gain from stats for wrists

[fossil shell]

Yeah, if going 259 might as well pick up the embellishment

then craft another dagger next or whatever slot I need from there

[analog field]

2nd dagger is bad, but you can recraft first dagget to 285

biggest dmg improvment

[fossil shell]

2nd dagger not worth? I was reading that in the wowhead guide, wasn't sure of the value vs how its been.

[analog field]

it's usually the last upgrade

[coral ibex]

you should never craft a 2nd dagger

[runic hinge]

Off hand is the lowest dps upgrade possible

[coral ibex]

and didnt your raid lead tell you not to craft with hero crests?

[fossil shell]

Glad i came in here and asked. I was on the fence about crafting another dagger because I wasn't sure

[distant plinth]

Why are u crafting with hero crest

[coral ibex]

you can recraft a myth weapon on tuesday

[distant plinth]

Yea 80 hero crest on the trashbin then

[fossil shell]

Just figured it only mattered early

i wasn't stressin

[strange onyx]

Hallo

[fossil shell]

plus i also am not the most in the loop

which why I'm here asking

[strange onyx]

I can put you in the loop

[analog field]

nopt the end of the world for 80 hero crests

[strange onyx]

In general if you need to ask a question in here, you play at a level where it doesn’t matter too much

[glad vessel]

YO did they fix the apex tracking deciding to disappear or is still acting up?

[fossil shell]

Yeah I'm not cutting edge

[strange onyx]

It’s all good homie

[glad vessel]

cos from the test im doing it randomly stops tracking and randomly comes back

unless im missing smth

[storm forum]

still bugged

[strange onyx]

Bug if you start a new implacable chain before the old one is gone

[glad vessel]

the fix is simple then

just dont envenom when u have energy regen just overcap

[strange onyx]

No other fix than learning to do 20 15 15 15 15 in your head

[sick marsh]

Is the CDM bugged for tracking Implaccable buff ? I see it raising to 80 then i let it fade, and when i recast env afterward i sometimes dont see the buff starting to 20 as usual. am I missing something ?

[storm forum]

i love looking at my buffs bar half the time

[crisp pine]

your whole world is gonna change by scrolling up a little bit

[sick marsh]

oh

[glad vessel]

its kinda literally the message before it LMAO

[storm forum]

lmao

[sick marsh]

ahah i was typing

[glad vessel]

i would too but i need to turn my monitor on

[strange onyx]

You got slow eyes or a big monitor

[viscid spear]

https://tenor.com/view/it's-a-slow-day-gif-17869747439397645052

[crisp pine]

I'm basically blind on one eye :(

[glad vessel]

aight time to go doom till another 1% aura buff

have fun

!buffs

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1340517677973635152/1484704581362651366/image.png?ex=69bf3264&is=69bde0e4&hm=d107345329547c4c2447c754851eb4e9e5751085af4bff69a8e80a3fd6011f31&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[primal parrot]

is there EVER a situation where you'd take Avulsion

[strange onyx]

Over?

[primal parrot]

i really hate the positioning of Avulsion and Amp poison in the talent tree

[strange onyx]

yeah its not great

but what do you wanna swap Avulsion for?

[primal parrot]

who said anything about swapping

[analog field]

oh you just want to an extra talent without giving up anything ? 😛

[strange onyx]

Wait for next expansion

[primal parrot]

stupid people on discord what else is new

[strange onyx]

Haha xd

[primal parrot]

not you skoop

kisses you on the forehead

[shell kraken]

When do we use Puzzle Box? Before DM, between DM & KB or after?

[strange onyx]

After DM

[analog field]

between

[strange onyx]

before KB

[shell kraken]

Is there a way to get trinkets within CD-manager?

[strange onyx]

No

[crisp pine]

addon

[storm forum]

can we craft a cloak instead of wrists? they have the same stat budget (actually i think cloak might give less armor). Is there some kind of special cloak this tier that I missed?

[strange onyx]

yeah

go ahead

[storm forum]

sick ty

[strange onyx]

You're very welcome

[shell kraken]

What's your best tip to drop Implacable at 80%?
If for example Rupture is not yet within pandemic?
Do we send 1-2 Envenoms then let it drop with Rupture?

Or if we're at 5 CP, do we "spend" one more mutilate- so that it can drop?

[storm forum]

if ur gonna overcap energy, and nothing is in pandemic, just send an env, its probably fine

[shell kraken]

So we drop it with refreshing Rupture most likely then.

Also since the tracking isn't really in place yet - does the stacks starts counting with new Envenoms even during the 5sec buff?
To be clear: We should only count to four?

[frosty cedar]

you just sit on 5cp at 80% and spend once the energy regen starts. If you can refresh rupture because its in pandemic, do that. If your going to overcap on energy by waiting, just envenom again

[storm forum]

yeah it often lines up with a rupture, but if it doesnt its fine

also you can let it drop early before 80

if you're lowish on energy and gotta send a rupture at 50 stacks or whatever you can let it drop

[golden loom]

yeah finisher rules wouldnt change, you just sit at 5 combo points - if you need the energy you let the stacks drop and then envenom again

[ocean garden]

quick trinket question, lookimg at the warcraftlogs for heroic encouters[0] i see most of them using crucible of erreatic energies[1] but i dont see this trinket in any of the guides trinket tier list
[0]https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/46?boss=3180&class=Rogue&spec=Assassination
[1}https://www.wowhead.com/item=264507/crucible-of-erratic-energies

[golden loom]

its early in the season, the trinket is a guaranteed rep reward so everyone has it

there arent any farmable hero track trinkets yet either so

[ocean garden]

understood, okay just thought i should use it based on those stats, but i have a or b trinkets, then all good thanks!

[sullen bramble]

saw someone say i should puzzle box before KB

is that also before deathmark?

or DM > puzzle > KB

[storm forum]

either is fine, I think DM > Puzzle > KB was what we originally recommended but most people find Puzzle > DM > KB more comfortable and whispyr said there's like no difference either way

[sullen bramble]

ok, thanks!

[indigo mulch]

Is there a massive difference between ds and fatebound on st?

[royal lantern]

no

[worldly bridge]

The ranger trink is simming really high on AOE/Cleave for sub, i guess it might be the same for Sin no ?
Also side question i should implement /cast Ranger trink to every button and forget about it, correct ?

[acoustic birch]

coming from mostly sub convo's to ask why you would pref sin? Just personal preference? Expectations of tuning?

[sullen bramble]

thoughts on the incoming talent which bounces the deathstalker's mark to another target if your current dies?

gonna be a shitshow finding it with this UI in a big pack

IMO

[civic trellis]

Quote from Whispyr: "The new bad talent is a choice node with the old good talent finish the job. This kills the talent instantly and makes it fully dead and unplayable"

[worldly bridge]

bit of both. Also Sin is a lil more interesting than Sub imo, and feels better on low target cleave.

[civic trellis]

2 targets on sub 💀

[royal lantern]

because assassination is the only rogue spec for the last 10 years that feels like as if it actually has a clear vision and direction at all

Outlaw is many "just throw shit at the wall and see what sticks" things since day 1, and Sub is a Mess since Legion is over where they dont know what they actually wanna do with it

[rancid anvil]

I like poison and bleed, make brain happy

[strange onyx]

Execute damage is too good on early progress

[subtle tundra]

lol

lol

so funny i had to laugh out loud twice

[acoustic birch]

thanks yall

[worldly bridge]

Do you think upgrading my hero weap is an interesting choice ?

• im recrafting myth dagger next week
• my guild is fighting for AOTC on Crown this week and every bit of dps is welcome

[strange onyx]

do not

[worldly bridge]

but i think hero crest are gonna be better spent on big pieces like chest/leg next week right ?

[strange onyx]

yes

[haughty flicker]

well interesting is definitely a word for it

[strange onyx]

spending it on weapon this week

is legit waste

best of a bad case u can send on hero tier pieces if u got them

[analog swan]

Patch 12.0.5 release date?

May?

[strange onyx]

Yeah, thats seems like a good time

[analog swan]

I thought the voidforge was this next maint

Fk..

Guess its much later

[unreal fern]

!buffs

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1340517677973635152/1484704581362651366/image.png?ex=69bf3264&is=69bde0e4&hm=d107345329547c4c2447c754851eb4e9e5751085af4bff69a8e80a3fd6011f31&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[unreal fern]

is tldr that we are still shit after "buff" next reset?

[strange onyx]

never been shit

[timber pawn]

Yall worship Whysper but don't listen to him

We are fine

[storm forum]

Wdym? We are actively plotting whispyr's downfall

[fleet whale]

Yeah like the first couple month of Shadowlands was far worse compared to this

[timber pawn]

^

[storm forum]

Castle Nathria week 1 was actually some bullshit

My grey parse sub was better than purple parse assa

[fleet whale]

yeah beating tanks was a struggle back then

[timber pawn]

perfect example of things could be way worse

[viscid spear]

[timber pawn]

I know I know don't speak it into existence

[worldly bridge]

is it normal that Sin is simming higher than Sub for me ? Hectiv add cleave setup, im trying to squeeze as much dps as i can for Crown

[hexed frost]

Guys I'm running H/M gear mostly for my sub, is it viable to multispec as assa for raid, atleast on some bosses?

[timber pawn]

Secondary stats are pretty different but you can probably limp through it

[hexed frost]

"limp"

As much as I am enjoying sub, i would like to try assa but I'm chronically allergic to pooling

[worldly bridge]

you dont really have to pool much tbh

Apex drops almost by himself when you refresh first rupture

[hexed frost]

Guess afking to build shadow technique stacks is similar to pooling lol

[spice surge]

Yeah sub actually does more pooling than assa does

[worldly bridge]

You feel like energy is missing when you spread bleeds but it barely ever happens since everyone is padding so hard in HM atm, mobs just blows instantly

[hexed frost]

But trickster kuu de graa feels good when it goes whoosh-whoosh-whoosh.

The alternative is coins dropping out of my pockets

[worldly bridge]

i gotta admit the big sectech hits feels insanely good

[real pike]

anyone know why I can't shadowstep to Ezzorak

[spice surge]

You just cant

[real pike]

https://tenor.com/view/ok-nice-grafic-gif-13206845596055018221

guess she's not getting bled then

[static glacier]

flying innit

[covert jewel]

she

[static glacier]

you can't step to something not on the ground

duh

[covert jewel]

u can?

or u mean physics wise

[strange onyx]

just CT her in last phase

[static glacier]

step off a cliff

[strange onyx]

no point otherwise

[static glacier]

u cant

its joever

[real pike]

ye Ezzorak is clearly the girl one

[real pike]

coolio

[static glacier]

the paler one is the girl

i think

[covert jewel]

huh

[real pike]

just run under and flip your camera upwards

you'll see

[covert jewel]

[static glacier]

serious answer though: step other players with mouseover, stepping the dragons can get you tail whipped to narnia

[real pike]

that makes far too much sense for my liking

[subtle karma]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[thorn thorn]

@severe meadow !buffs

[real pike]

thought you would never get swiped from ss position

as long as you don't move back at all

[subtle tundra]

@midnight mist come hlep me

[humble verge]

ok

lets go outlaw lads

[real pike]

any sages with some advice on pala boss? which to hit first, stick on, etc

[golden loom]

start on the ret pally

he takes more damage during wings and also doesnt bubble on pull or smthin (so u dont have to deal with mass dispel being slow and yoinking a garrote)

[midnight mist]

what

im raiding

[real pike]

lovely thank you

[thorn thorn]

my goat is washed

[humble verge]

nobody needs em 😭

we have a ww, i even asked him

1 dropped with leech 1 without

[lofty elm]

are we supposed to run poisoner's drive or inspiring strike ?

[strange onyx]

inspiring

[subtle tundra]

whatever fuck you

[wicked valve]

Just did my first key as sin after switching to sub. Ho boy, it's down bad.

[midnight mist]

wtf

[shy sorrel]

Does Eternal Bleeding work when you use Crimson Tempest?

[subtle tundra]

i dont see assa doing well in m+ while bleeds do no dmg and you have no energy ever

[golden loom]

internal bleeding? and yeah should do as its just a buff on rupture pretty much

and crimson tempest just duplicates ur main targets rupture/garrote

[shy sorrel]

Oh yeah it's called Internal, I apologize

[wicked valve]

wowhead has it B in the tier rankings. Feels more like a D

[golden loom]

well m0 and m+ are different things

things in m0 die before you even get your bleeds out

[fallow canopy]

meow

[signal oxide]

Is implacable tracking still broken for everyone? when i use a finisher during the energy regen window, the stack tracker no longer works

[strange onyx]

yes

learn the 20 15 15 15 15

[humble verge]

[thorn thorn]

[signal oxide]

for me, it fixes itself when i get a blindside proc. is that the same for you?

[strange onyx]

dont think so

[signal oxide]

ok, i have another issue with my ui specific to assassination. using ArcUI+UUF, when i get a Blindside proc, my player+target frames bug out, resets itself when i leave combat

has anyone experianced this/have a fix?

[haughty flicker]

that is a very strange bug

deserved for using portaits though tbh

[analog field]

i had it happen with dummies only

[real pike]

what talent build are people using for paladins

oh shit the raid guide is up on wowhead

let's go

[signal oxide]

happens to me everywhere lol

[fallow canopy]

I used the one on whisp video

I assume its the same one that's one the wowhead page

[real pike]

yeah sweet

man I am spraying green parses on hc

what the fuck is going on

[strange onyx]

):

[tawny veldt]

I hope they buff sin a lot more. Feels so underwhelming

[strange onyx]

ok

[buoyant herald]

I mean it’s an add heavy raid, need to pad harder for those purples

[real pike]

yeah maybe

do the little inturrupty balls on the twin dragons count towards logs

[analog field]

Yeah me too seems normal with people having tier or better killtimers

[torn bear]

Yo does anyone know if you copy a empowered garrote with crimson does it spread the empowered one?

[torn dome]

!buffs

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1340517677973635152/1484704581362651366/image.png?ex=69bf3264&is=69bde0e4&hm=d107345329547c4c2447c754851eb4e9e5751085af4bff69a8e80a3fd6011f31&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[tawny veldt]

I assumed it did. Was just too lazy to look up and verify lol. If it does, The other skill to remove cooldown for reapply for 6 secs, Seems a bit redundant right? (Sorry forgot its name)

[severe meadow]

!BuffJay

[severe meadow]

Maybe different now with more parses but we didn’t have that many on the board either

[real pike]

ye tbf I have not even 2pc cooked stats/ilvl and janky kills

[severe meadow]

For example, I was rank 44 for one of the fights but it was still like.. a purple parse xd

[real pike]

but normally I'd still be hitting purples on hc

maybe with the simplified rotation all that other stuff carries more weight?

that seems like cope tho

[spice surge]

CT copies over your longest garrote, so if that garrote is improved the ones from CT will be improved too

[strange onyx]

its ya boi

[severe meadow]

@real pike I’m In bed being lazy but skoopington has a better example on deck

[real pike]

a what what now

[real pike]

I'm not jealous

[strange onyx]

its week 1

what can u do

[real pike]

BETTER

I can do BETTER

I should also really create a UI I don't actively hate

[zealous moth]

can we close the discord now

[last skiff]

she have shiv

[zealous moth]

shiv me irl

[unreal fern]

she can do more than you even when in healing

[exotic hearth]

So I'm trying to get into some pvp. What are some resources for that?

[severe meadow]

#pvp

[exotic hearth]

I am beyond blind holy fuck

[real pike]

that's not great for pvp

[high dust]

Blind is great for pvp, wtf

Had to go sub to do it, but thanks for the tips and all from the discord

[strange onyx]

Mi nemesis @balmy condor

[balmy condor]

[thorn thorn]

[haughty flicker]

[thorn thorn]

[frosty cedar]

[haughty flicker]

[thorn thorn]

[timber abyss]

which embelishment is the best for dagger?

[balmy condor]

Guys what am I making with the rice I cooked yesterday

[balmy condor]

Hunt

[thorn thorn]

sushi

[strange onyx]

Whispyr fried rice

[balmy condor]

Rice and cat

[strange onyx]

monday cant come soon enough so i can go kill Alleria

[balmy condor]

Same

[strange onyx]

rip cat, but worth it

[thorn thorn]

Do not the cat

[strange onyx]

shouldnt have placed higher than us on the patchwerk sims

[timber abyss]

worth crafting right now?

[fleet pagoda]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1484624630764273745/drops.png

[strange onyx]

DO NOT USE HERO CRESTS

Craft without

Hope I am not too late to save a life

[timber abyss]

still not crafted

[boreal lichen]

we can skip hero crest with mythic crest whiel crafting right ? next week

[strange onyx]

yes

so you waste 80 hero crests

which is bad for the next 7 weeks

[boreal lichen]

but you can progress hc enboss next 2 days

[strange onyx]

You wont need it

I beg you

Listen to me

plenty good

[timber abyss]

so you tell me i need to wait to have 80 myth crest and then crafted?

[strange onyx]

no

[balmy condor]

you craft with no crests

[high dust]

yesterday's rice is always for fried race.

[strange onyx]

craft 259 now with no crests

[balmy condor]

then recraft 80 myth

[strange onyx]

which race is getting fried

[high dust]

...damn my mind trolled me+

[high dust]

mecagnomes for sure fuck those

[strange onyx]

Dont eat bolts and cogs

[high dust]

but they crunchy

[echo heath]

Any mechagnomes want to meet me in arcantina so I can complete that stupid achievement?

[grim jay]

Some people like eating cogs

[strange onyx]

I feel like a lot of them type stupid questions or takes in this discord

[high dust]

Good f* luck with that, wasted like 3 days for it at the start

[frosty cedar]

last thing u see before my mechagnome does you in

[strange onyx]

I was told to never go to a second location by Whispyr

[grim jay]

For sure

[high dust]

https://tenor.com/view/twitch-rat-rigada-run-dokales-gif-17318963

this u

[echo heath]

Good advice to live by

[frosty cedar]

fear backshotbot

[coarse crow]

Not shot we are actually recrafting with myth tokens?

Is that actually the play?

[frosty cedar]

why not?

[coarse crow]

Oh

I’m confused

Hero =/= myth lol

[frosty cedar]

sounds like you are no longer confused

[coarse crow]

We don’t waste our hero though right

[frosty cedar]

correct

[high dust]

how much myth tokens u getting from delves per run on the chest from 11?

[frosty cedar]

I believe its like 5 per run up to 20 pw?

if you get delve rank 4

[haughty flicker]

Yes

5x4

[frosty cedar]

there u have it

[haughty flicker]

https://klipy.com/gifs/shrimpin

[balmy condor]

https://tenor.com/view/youve-got-to-be-squidding-me-its-as-shrimple-as-that-shrimple-squid-gif-26786461

[strange onyx]

You ever had squid Whispyr?

[thorn thorn]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1159545771998331022/1182291627151200296/attachment-3.gif

[strange onyx]

I charge 20% more than that

[severe meadow]

Making a fucking killing

[thorn thorn]

Those are the discount prices

Regulars get a discount

[unborn marlin]

Hi, i've been trying to make sudden demise/bleed work because it was my absolute favourite talent in war within, but it doesn't seem to work at all? full 7 combo points rupture + stealth garrote and a normal mob doesn't bleed out, and even on a rare it doesn't seem to execute them even with deathmark etc. Is the talent simply bugged? or was it stealth changed in midnight

[wraith knot]

First thing I see on this server, that's how you know you're in the right place

[strange onyx]

Always been a bit buggy in open world, I am sorry to hear your favorite talent is bugged. I will head over to the QA department and lets see how they are getting along with their fix. It is sadly low priority

[frosty cedar]

hi its the QA department we ran out of breast milk we cant work

[unborn marlin]

i can provide

[strange onyx]

Save the corny hornyness for when Whispyr is on shift

I dont want it on my shift

[thorn thorn]

Ma the rogues are being weird again

[normal mist]

Weird would be if we were acting normal

You know better

[thorn thorn]

Horny is not normal

[normal mist]

It's a lifestyle

[wraith knot]

https://giphy.com/gifs/2zoLgckxd9FxDgx6gD

[normal mist]

That's how I became a dad!

[wraith knot]

My condolences

[thorn thorn]

ya but becoming a dad means less wow time

[frosty cedar]

unlucky

[thorn thorn]

So who really lost there

[strange onyx]

Hurry up my Blitz queue so i can go bed

[normal mist]

No wow time actually

I haven't played since she was born

[thorn thorn]

So you are the real loser

Unlucky

[normal mist]

I'm free

[frosty cedar]

unlucky

[normal mist]

(temporarily)

[thorn thorn]

They always come back

[normal mist]

Ikr

Maybe later into the expac

[runic hinge]

they always what back

[normal mist]

My job tonight was/is being to take care of the child while my gf raids

https://tenor.com/view/mutsuki-bluearchive-gif-27128372

[thorn thorn]

Damn

Bro is whipped

[normal mist]

The word is Happy

[strange onyx]

or a loving bf/ good father

[thorn thorn]

Impossible

Wow players arent good people

[balmy condor]

royal is actually my wife

[solar wyvern]

Get your kid to farm mats while you both raid smhmyhead

[thorn thorn]

Im pretty sure his kid doesnt even know what a keyboad is yet

[solar wyvern]

Honestly does anyone even minmax anymore...

[frosty cedar]

I used to get my younger brother to farm chickens in lumbridge farm so anything is possible

[solar wyvern]

Kid needs to hit a target dummy then idk

[normal mist]

5 months old, all she does is bite everything, pee, poop laugh and cry

[wraith knot]

Whispyr?

[normal mist]

Yes

[solar wyvern]

Ah just like my cat

[thorn thorn]

Just like me except im a lot older than 5 months

[solar wyvern]

6 or 7 months?

[thorn thorn]

more

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1095046596833583185/1459525148792324226/67.avif

[frosty cedar]

perish

[wraith knot]

cringe

I was gonna join this server to ask for help but now I feel like you guys need help

[red schooner]

we do

[balmy condor]

we play rogue, obviously we need help

[wraith knot]

Just another day in 2026

[wraith knot]

Bro fr

Why are we doing this

Why do we hate ourselves so much

[thorn thorn]

To feel something

[red schooner]

I don't know how to play anything else

[wraith knot]

I think that means you can play everything else

[thorn thorn]

[wraith knot]

https://giphy.com/gifs/reaction-a5viI92PAF89q

[warped moon]

i play my rogue bc its the first character i ever made in 2004 🙂

and it does less dps now than it idd back then somehow 😌

[wraith knot]

While I was leveling I looked at talent tree I was like man.. 250 energy.. This is gonna be so easy.. Our DPS must be stupid high rn

That sure blew up in my face didn't it

[warped moon]

DO U GUYS WANNA SEES OMETHING?

[strange onyx]

Going bed, your shift starts now, after you finish eating that cat

[warped moon]

first epic i ever found 🙂

[wraith knot]

Sick

[warped moon]

this dagger is over 20 yrs old 😌

[wraith knot]

First epic I ever had on a rogue was Brutality blade in classic, I mained warrior until wotlk then quit until classic

[warped moon]

ohh that was a good one!

[wraith knot]

Our rotation was so good man sinister strike sinister strike sinis- OH EVIS sinister str-

[warped moon]

haha

[strange onyx]

Good diversity hire to get some uncs in here. Glad to have you

[warped moon]

omg

[storm forum]

Dagger older than all us 12 yr olds......

[wraith knot]

Gabby really has those unc vibes don't he

[warped moon]

https://tenor.com/view/lol-chuckle-giggle-lmao-smh-gif-5025784

[wraith knot]

Me, I just went back in time and back again