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Does sin even grab subterfuge still
In beta I guess you are saying
I mean even in pre patch it feels good with the CT changes imo
Damage is just buns
Because in 12.0.1 is one of the weakest classes I've seen
feeling good and doing good dmg is not the same
Okok, gotcha
If they made it a bleed finisher that spread to 7 targets that would be better
But one can only dream
No need to dream, just go apply to be a dev
I’m dumb enough for it
Who is our dev now
me
Didn’t know the dev changed
the year is 2026
people still think that there is a Singular Person that desings and changes stuff about Classes in WoW

everyone knows its a series of dices
!bugs
that determine spec, how much to buff/nerf, and what abilities
Yeah jokes on you is OpenAI
I don’t know if this is factually accurate but it really felt like for the rogue class tree on the left it requires more stuff in the top half now before you unlock the bottom part and you get less points for the bottom.
Factually accurate now
Man. Why did they do that. Feels bad man.
Grok making our class now
Honestly.. it's not Grok but it almost 100% is whatever the Microsoft AI is called
I highly suggest going to the wowhead guide whispyr breaks down the opening rotations for each. In both single and aoe you often garotte more than once in that 6 second window to build combos for the rupture….but the additional garottes are to keep improved refreshing to max duration before the 6 second window drops
There is even little parentheses to explain reasoning
Also the same logic would apply when you go into a vanish window.
there are many actually,they are just too afraid to implement real changes
also you are hot
what changes do people even want lol
like, the only change i personaly need is the apex buff to be trackable in tthe shity CDM
i want nothing,im free
well i do want
just not anything in game
for the rest i fight in life
coz thats what normal ppl do
yeah thats not happening
brb gonna download tinder for the 37th time
call a homie,tell him u will buy a coffee or a monster,go out
search for females
they do exist
you want me to embarras myself in public? nty
time to get into a book club then ig

u need to be ready to accept embarassment either way,even through tinder hookups 😉
back in my day it was
more direct,just ask human beings out
talk,see what happens
civilized ppl and all
i accepted the embarrassment when the girl i went on a 2nd date with told me she got a bf the day before
why didnt she cancel is my question

she might wanted free food
u were the victim
nah
cause she a 403
this was a movie at her place
She was trying to get more chiikawa merch out of you
this was like 2023
She saw the future of potential chiikawa plushies then
True
Just think, your life would've been completely different if they didn't show their craziness so early 
how do we skill left side now after this patch? you cannot pick half the stuff at the bottom
Me when the girl im dating talks to me but proceeds to ignore it anyway
You will get those talents on the way to 90
I mean left side 😄
why is everyone in beta playing the "meta" specs
s/beta/wow/
FOTM chasing
yeah but....its beta xd
people are stupid
there are guys that puush beta m+ score
what do you expect
yeah
i really wanted to see some shadow/feral gameplay
i found some shadow but old content, and feral xd
!bugs
Did we have talent changes between 12 and 12.0.1? noticed they reset talents.
no u
Nah, gate change
uwu
i think theres 2 parts to that, one that people just love to be strong and two that beta is a chance for competitive players to get a head start on the season, so most of the streamers you see are those kind of people
but i agree that it gets a bit boring
My most controversial take is that spatter should count as a poison and generate energy from dashing scoundral
blue one is that caustic should count for singular focus
Like it used to be
i completely get why people do it, doesnt feel good to do half the other guys dps, but it feels like im watching week 8 of m+ instead of beta
like it should be
god you're right about that
hopefully the Big 3 get nerfed and it has to be figured out again
they tried to nerf and nuked aff instead xd
they obviously know the outliers tho
they probably didnt expect arcane adjustments to be this strong either
they should give sin spread cleave through poisoned knife 🙂
Bigger Fan of Knives
remember when rogue used to have a throw dagger finisher
Nope cuz that was before my time 
lol
was that in MoP?
as a last level talent as well
Deadly throw
they should move windfury buff to rogue instead of having sky fury being a double buff
It was gone long ago
good pvp finisher
they should normalize sht
I think it was removed around Legion time
Forbidden toe beans
what if, assassination became the tank spec, and it did poison application via getting hit pepw
and threw poison bombs
I could only see Rogue being some form of evasion style tank where you don't want to get hit xd
But who knows what they could cook up
Did the SoD Rogue tank spec ever do anything cool?
when u evade, instead u apply poisons
what if sub became the tank spec and just disappeared, making the mobs confused into death
what if they brought back hemo
or exanguinate 🙂
im mostly joking, i was a turbo casual when it was a thing so i never cared
idk how good/bad it was
i liked sb more than exang
what if they brought back the old poison bomb, the one tanks could see
imo caustic should just turn envenom into poison bomb, and remove random bomb
I think they should bring back 

blue thinks red needs to take his pills
thats brewmaster...?
ye
Mid-combat imp gar without vanish


fuck all the SL bullshit lmao
true
Sepsis bis
fleshcraft as undead racial would be neat
its so obvious that they didnt even knew what to do with it
SL was a mistake
ok but soulshape was sick
remember when they made a bigg fuzz about reworking the covenant ability visuals during DF
and rogue ER was one of the ones mentioned in the bluepost
and then 1 month later got removed from the talent tree
10/10, blizzard fully knew what they do there
I will not take this sepsis slander
only one season where i used it
Sbs should still exist
rotten sepsis s2 sub
rip
df
i liked er, sbs, the shaman venthyr one
i miss the generic covenant abilities more than the class ones
door of shadows, soulshape, fleshcraft, kyrian slave
all peak
its just so funny how covenant ability for almost everything where big impact things
and then there was rogue
i want soupshape
Actually I change my mind
er was fun on outlaw
... ngl I'd use a talent point for that yeah.
and they all had to get buffed a billion times over the expansion so they are not 100% garbage
lmao
but the other two specs eh
thats just makes it worse tbh
soulshape was not really that big on rogue
also it was mainly double leggos that let it be fun
i felt it more on wheelchairs
My most controversial take is KB should double the tick rate of all sin dots (including itself
) on the target
i mostly felt it being useful in pvp
....well until zugzug warrior charged me with condemn

kingsbane should be a nuke
And we should go back to amir KB
Skill issue fr
"parry adds to the game"-some classic boomer
Yeah I think they should make it to where KB and DM can be parried
stand behind boss you noob
Full send
imagine if you could parry spells
well you could parry bonedust brew
for some reason
the moment arcane gets a barrage parried they remove it

bring back spell resist on mobs
Well that would affect melee too
Its 250 to upgrade an entire item
Seems mostly symbolic
"We hate the poors"
its very silly
cus i can allready see the 20k upvotes reddit threat based on that wowhead post
lol
i want to know why they decided to go out of their way to add it
Hey
especially with it being such a small amount
the guy had to do something on his shift
instead of gooning in the bathroom
"I made changes"
Prob just for beta, maybe
you literally have infinite gold on beta
i mean everything scales in content anyway
there are no stones
stones were removed
thats why this is even sillier
250 more than im willing to pay
Doesnt need to exist
we finally made it one currency but someone at blizzard got the shakes
Im just not gonna upgrade until myth track cuz fuck em
and had to add another again
NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION
yeah but if it's literally nothing then why is it there
when we had crest-only
for all of beta
they are adding taxes to wow
thats why they added housing, change my mind
property taxes
i mean gear upgrades shouldnt be gold sinks xd

the worst kind there is
Enter maplestory, where every gear upgrade system is a gold sink

(The game is entirely different you can’t compare it like that)
yeah but im not in any maplestory discord to complain
will we have to fill taxes in .5 in the orgrimmar irs?
Its hardly a gold sink but im personally not gonna let them just add another currency
It was only crests for the beta
Just stick with only crests
is it time for another maplestory romp
agreed
Nexon has publishing right to StarCraft now 
Starcraft shooter

Maplestory x Starcraft crossover??
maybe one punch man first
That's actually kinda goated
I've been meaning to watch it



Who do i contact to implement a 4th spec, a warden spec, for rogues, with hero talents letting you be either a tank or a dps that uses warglaives like Maiev. i promise it would be fun
just a quick little update before midnight
Probably someone at blizzard
Alright, I'm back in
it's so funny how many enraged comments this is spawning in the comment section
tbf if blizzard made tmogs free forever wowhead comments would find a way to be mad
the fact that it's using gold is a bit weird, but it would be bad if they actually made it a big amount
but the comments are trying to make it sound like 50g per mythic upgrade is going to bankrupt them
any amount is bad, why do i need 2 currencies

and even then the gold amount is pitiful
which makes even less sense
as an extra currency its bad, and as a gold sink its pitiful at best
Any amount of gold is bad. It all adds up
it may only be 50g now but maybe that gets bumped up later yknow
Foot in the door
Good
Very low chance it makes it to live i think
unless they just ignore the feedback
They are hoping everyone will be outraged by the small amount of gold and go buy a plushie house toy to console their character
it wont make itlive
it doesnt even make sense
but the true question is
where the f are my patchnotes
The real question is when will KB be stronger
my favorite ability
KB isnt hasted
They just slap on a massive buff to its dam
And boom
EZ
Uncapped kb my beloved...

bomba
Bomba guy

i'd say that thumbnail is rough without context but context doesnt really make it better
GragasCustomSound.exe "Get Pregnant!" Skill 3
*yet
So I read the pins and I'm still a bit unclear. Clearly sin sucks right now but is it looking viable once we hit 90 and get all our talents and whatnot?
yes
Don't listen to that guy, he's gaslighting you (yes)
Thanks. I have hope again


anyone know if there's an addon or option to disable server names in the blizzard dps meter?
Details can do this
meow

Non-SIN question: what would be the best NA server to transfer Horde toons too? There has always been a shortage of horde on Stormrage
I forsee rogue being a class at lvl 90
i cant foresee shit
why are you gonna spend money/gold on transfering ALTS of all things?
depends where u live if u want best ping
I have a couple from a long time ago sitting here, and might was well use them?
I’m in Missouri lol sooo in the middle of the states

🙂
i mean
dont gotta transfer em
are there actual ping differences in different realms?
for NA
The horde side of storage is like empty
i thought they were just duplicate running the VMs or something idk
It’s mostly for trade and work orders I guess
its minimal, depends on ur tolerance
for instance if i pick one where i live i get 15-20, but if i'm on a coast server i'll be up to 50
Ilidan, area52, malganis
doesn't rly matter tho for instanced stuff, like oce group ur gna be oce ping no matter wha
maybe pvp is diff idk
Yeah have to guild hop
Biggest NA horde server is either either Area 52 or Illidan if i remember correctly, all my horde toons are on illidan and alliance on stormrage
Illidan is where most streamers are right?
When you say streamers who are you talking about?
Mythic plus players?
If thats the case most of them are EU lmao
Is there anything thats server specific anymore
I don’t know? I have always been told that’s where all the larger streamers are…
Its not
Ah ok then
Maybe back in the day, like 10 years ago soda played on illidan iirc
But all the biggest content creators in wow atm are on classic and have been for a while
I will look into all 3 servers. Thanks guys
Yes, it multiplies your regular proc chance by 0.7
Thanks. I was confused for a second because otherwise it would just disable poisons altogether after all
@thorn thorn it’s time
Hey I’m on stormrage !!
do you guys think the name midnight is more of a prediction from blizzard?
mid - it will be a mediocre ass expansion
night - you wish it was night so you can go to sleep
I think it's just because it's the 12th expansion
We hit 12.0, hence we hit midnight
then why not name it XII
as like 12
but cool
i, honestly, wish it was night as predicted from blizzard
so i could go to eep
meow
No eep for you sir
drink more caffeine
i at work.. i bored
is it foreshadowing, yes
🐛
🪱
Avoiding that server forever 
All the cute people on stormrage quake
You’d thrive here
Nah I’d bring the cuteness down king
On what spot is assa by now for M+?
Z to F? Just wanna jnow if anywhere inthe mid or bottom. So many different tierlists
Yes, because theyre all just made up
Some old…dunno whats actual one. Rly difficult
Source?
Nobody knows how the tuning is gonna look like, because they always do tuning right up until the raid release, then they continue afterwards for a month or two
But also eleem is right can say that historically it does not matter if hat tuning is before an xpac because it will look nothing like that by heroic week
someone got a beta raidbots simc i can use to test something?
or just any beta raidbots quicksim/top gear i can pull the simc from
you posted the wrong one

Just now saw the thing about rupture sniping
I was wondering why outside world content felt wierd huh
So now it's 1 energy per second of rupture remaining ?
Thats not in this patch, thats from prepatch
Yes its venomous wounds
If you only have 1 active its 3 per tick, but any secondary one is 1 per tick
Wierd, I was watching mobs bleeding out with ~20s of rupture remaining and the energy bar was barely moving
also gotta remember that the "energy gain on enemy deaths" was bugged since basically forever and gave back way more energy then it was supposed to do
I see how that might contribute to the wierd feeling about this I have since coming back
Kinda sad this affects open world content tbh. If it was a headache for end content it was at least some nice QoL for ourdoors
7 raid tiers and we still have to see a rogue legendary 
who in their right minds wants a fucking legendary 
oh yes, pls balance me around a item drop so it feels like absolute garbage when you dont have it, and when you have it its just the new baseline
you mean doing the long as fuck questline for somebody
just for the person to immediatly get poached
yeha, like not pugging so you dont sit in lfg
befriend healer or tank lol
I'd vibe with a legendary that scales normally and gives us a fun new non-rotation button to press in certain situations
Maybe not even a weapon, idk, a belt ? Toolbelt like batman ?
heart of azeroth v2 when
They looked cool tho
artifact weapons back in the last titan 
Yes bring back some grinds so people dont just reroll to fotm willi nilly and blizzard gives up on balancing after a week
modernized ofc
For what
Time to ligma
Kicked from 2 consecutive myth raids before it even started for being speced as Sin. I was wondering if it was truly that bad?
Finally got a raid and DH/DK's doing literally double my damage depsite parsing 95+ on every fight. Good stuff blizz good stuff
you can kill dimmy with 14-15 people, its just people being dickheads
prepatch tuning is all over the place
Yeah I guess you are right. Imagine being like that in prepatch tho :/
Yeah those people should go outside i think!
@spice spire 



i wish theyd get rid of the instanceid lock for mythics. so dumb you cant just continue with a diff group
Us to get married
💒
me and who
You and @ember mural I’m shipping it.
Real
Can’t believe you’re taking my man away from me 🙁
I would never, I believe all rogues are actually part of a large polycule.
Thicc as thieves.
Demontime emoji or whatever the kids say

Demontime emoji is actually what the uncs say.
@frosty citrus you're unc
@frosty citrus unc status unlocked.
this ping will bring drama and i love it
yeah i love it
Love combo points.
i like the qol they did
spec feels good af to me now
spatter not being on muti is so nice
What’s your favorite assassination rogue ability Tony?
what the fuck why am i catching strays
Silence spriest main
Mine is mutilate.
Quake loves throwing strays.

@balmy condor what is your favorite assassination rogue ability?
whispyrs favorites are indiscriminate carnage and the stealth stance button, he loved the discussions they fostered
Like actual button I press or do passives count
You can choose a passive if you want.
Venomous wounds

I really liked exsang, even though it was a bit janky at times
haha hey
Daylea appearance
Yeah had to drop a pic of chat in the pets thread rq and ping quake.
Whatever you say, aunt

You want unc or lil pup?
Choose your path white girl.

Mutilate.
100% this. I love mythic raids sooooooo much but I’m not in a guild that does it past two bosses so I endlessly try to pug and it’s effing brutal.
One week I joined a raid of a guild progging loom locked myself and bam they called it
I need to find a real guild someday :/
you mean spatter
I agree with red
they really need to take a look at how the lockout system works
its such a massive barrier to people trying to pug mythic and potentially becoming interested in the content
I believe in you in finding better guild that is more suited towards your goals! 
I’ve never casted it…

🤨

wdym you never casted it 
He/She knows about the one spec they don’t want you to know about.
Asslaw the assassination spec that uses no cooldowns
Where is my tuning
Well only like 14 people play rogue so shouldnt be too hard
And @humble verge is half of them
yeah i went from pugging aotc to being in a 7/8m guild my first tier actually trying, if your heroic logs are even remotely good you can definitely get into a pretty decent guild
Exsang of course x: 
We recruit people without logs sometimes depending on vibes
If they aren’t the best, we work with them and try to improve them
Bet you cant improve me
Probably cap
🧢
wanna bet
i went from not even intending to play this shitty ass game to now going for Hall of Fame
why does this dude look like squidward after everyone merged with him
We have over 40 signups for midnight raiding but I can try and get you in with us if you want
We got Sera CE, surely we can slam you in there
you guys arent gonna do 4 splits?
devo
We are doing splits yeah
Idk how many ways
Why you gotta play the same shit my guild leader plays 
But its an evoker
on beta i think its really good but not one of the outliers
True
devo=devourer tho
I’ve been semi looking at stuff
not lizard
Oh i completely forgot they added that
I have 2 days available a week being monday and tuesday




Nah he got CE in my heart
@haughty flicker how many pulls?

Rough.
At least you weren’t some of the 800+ who didn’t get it
not enough
oh i lied
I watched some of the race to world lasts
(My friend being one of them)
not actually complete we only got to p3
i think its counting the fact we killed during prepatch
Mounts 
pity mount poggers
totally not selling mounts nono
yeah its the only one from this expac i like
Too bad everyone will have it now since Dimmy is shit easy now
People still buying them?
For pennies but yea
That’s fair
Like 1-1.x mil

bruh
idk about
I wish 1m was pennies to me
1mil being pennies for most here bro
lol
ahahha
1mil might be pennies if ure swiping
Thats like 150k per person if you are 14maning
For 3 buyers
why are you 14manning
and what price are you getting
if your teamcut is 1m per mount buyer
We did a sell run before pre patch
its like 176k with 17 boosters
simple maff
It’s crazy what people are willing to slam for gear
But I gotta log in the game 
for gear 2 weeks before its all gone

Honestly
I still think the AOTC version looks better
Now that is a hot take
Ok you got me I can't math 
Hm
Lava
thats what people without the mythic version would say
BEL HAS IT
i mean how youd get 150k with 14 people
LETS GO BEL
thats prolly if you do it like
Idk the mythic one just looks goofy
Lke its missing textures
The one I dont get is everyone liking the gally mount
this is 80% with 17 boosters
This is ragebait
20% adv cut
That shit looks so silly to me
I just log to pew pew I guess the guy that finds the clients took a cut or smth
Gally mount is one of the worst mounts
tbf, thats the point
Its not bait its my unfiltered opinion
I fucking hate it
But the gally mount is also pretty goofy
Or since clients are scarce he just sold it cheaper just to fill the 3 quota
So far the only mount im actually overly partial to is the geargrinder
That I agree
does it work on gnomes
lolle
I regret to inform you it does not work on any players
false advertisement
How do you get that mount
TWW meta achiev

Thats the one I spent 4 months waiting on a single world quest for
I forgot those existed
Cuz it took me 2 weeks to do everything in the meta achiev
And 4 months to wait for a single world quest to spawn

And I got it fixed for you….
I can’t cheat on pookie
caustic we are getting a 40% kingsbane buff today
Copium
thats why patch notes are taking so long
God I pray for KB to be a nuke
what are you maining now?
Devo
I played sin in amirdrassil but stopped after they nerfed KB
so you stopped week 2
well it was pi jail
I didnt like that it made us a pi target
should have capped it but not nerf the dmg
But it was cool with it being strong
Dude the wifi funnel bug flameshaper had was so funny
until warlocks "discover" a random thing in their sims again that shows that they actually do 20000000000000 dmg with PI 2 days before the raid opens
like always
:3
But also the problem isn't being the pi target, its pi being that valuable then not getting it
I hate being the primary PI target I jus want my class to feel good without it.
Its even funner people thought the wifi funnel had any chance of making it to live
Thank god you’re here
How much $ to get evoker nerfed
To spite @thorn thorn
They can certainly try
arent warlocks without a simc guy?
FS has some downright redoncilous haste scaling
Do not nerf evoker He does not play that class anymore!
Especially if they get it for free
I like raiding with my pookie I need it to be good!
That’s fair
He plays stinky demon hunter, we can nerf spec for free.
do it
save me from this hell that voodoo and sael keep creating
Maybe it will run an actual normal build for once
Doctor Saurus will save you I believe.
well now people can ping whispyr in dh discord
to make voodoo explain things to them
I already told whispyr that his writer was being mean
(Also this image is out of context please do not be mean to Voodoo or I will find you)
Funny dragon land?
Felhammer
i would never
voodoo is a cool guy
Thanks pookie
No you, blue name
this reminds me i havent read the forums in a while
idk if i like mafic more than i like people arguing with archimitiros about sims
that was the highlight of the year so far
granted the bar is in hell but
it was very funny
That was also really funny
Hell of a read
Too late I already sent the goon squad
using a S2 trinket lmao
where my weekly patch notes 🙁
What is this channel
What the hell broski
wdym. he just said he doesnt mind explaining the build. 
well, he just said he wouldnt mind explaining it. he didnt agree to do it though
Hey, can you explain a build for me?
i have the ability to do so, yes.
But will you..?
big "can i use the bathroom" energy
can you?
haha do you mean may i? i hated when english teachers said that
they were right to do so tho
fair
then you correct yourself and get hit with "no"
maybe if more english teachers did that, wed have less people saying "should of" or "could of" instead of "should have" and "could have"

i dont mind if its done to troll me. i do mind if its done because people are too dumb/lazy
i have to deal with drunk english people pissing in the streets tho
drunk english or drunk british people?
no mostly english
cuz the welsh or irish are kinda neat
i do like a single malt once in a while, true
scots
i associate them with whiskey too much kek
or scottish ppl, ye
Think you mean the engs

expansion launching in a couple days btw
Just dont do that 4head

man rogue is always in the shitter i swear
wasnt rogue one of the consistently stronger classes for the entire expansion
bottom half all expansion
@marble hemlock what is your favorite ability for assassination rogue?
Not only ass all expansion but also ass the last 2 before it
Yeah if you just ignore any statistic
well yeah ass is great
active abilities?
and current only, or at all times?
just facts
Sorry but its not
it is
Objectivity does not care what you made up in your head cannon
PoV reality doesn’t apply to me
Who told you this?
oh wow it was barely above average. actually meta by then
What data do you have that says it was bottom half all xpac
I told me this, I am the creator of my own world
assa and sub were both top 10 specs overall ever since turbo boost
If I say assa bad, it’s bad
He is him.
WRONG
Grok will simply generate more
The future is now
Not the ai generated feeties
I love quake, #1 big dog, but he could not stop Whispyr after having a monster.
if rogue will be bottom all expansion long, so will I
bottom gang 

what about quake with 2 monsters?
Amen praise god
@safe frigate do i play sin in midnight
BASED
literally just check mythicstats. also i was wrong about dragonflight. i misremembered so im sorry about that
Cracking open a can on voice chat and going “guess there’s two white monsters now”
so true bestie
I think rogue is a very cool class with multiple spec options that are versatile and fun in their own unique ways. Limiting ones self to a single spec could be robbing you of enjoyment.

Ok yea nvm im not taking the bait anymore
Its too obvious
What the fuck is mythicstats btw
Anyways I’m only playing augmentation and making it Whispyrs problem.
nah, fck outlaw
All my homies gatekeeping mythicstats
think mechanically, i really liked agonizing poison in legion. swapping between poisons for st or aoe, respectively, with a reduced cast time on applying poisons, felt really interesting. needed prio/boss damage? slap on AP. raw aoe? go DP.
Daylea with the endless wisdom as always 
This is so based and Poggers.
Bro literally anyone can just vibecode some shitty data scraping website I can’t keep up anymore
Ty Seli.
was also fun on cleave fights to try and maintain AP on multiple targets for the big damage amp
I mean even looking at that you can see rogue being pretty high up on the stats most weeks
i still remember despairing on cenarius, trying to keep up AP on 3 targets 
Unless your definition of "bad" and "ass" is not being the literal best spec in the game
I don’t know what it is either 
ofc i mean best lol
Have you pressed grappling hook?

💀
You’re so ragebaitable
bruh
wheres that picture explaining good vs dogshit classes
literally assa was meta half a season in tww. totally invisible in df, sl
Bro just makes shit up
Yes
You are
nah you have no idea




















