assassination

[balmy condor]

cause I wish I enjoyed it

I wish I enjoyed logging into wow for 80 hours a week

running the same 8 keys three thousand times

[red schooner]

Turboboost was only tolerable for me because I had all my lesser crests capped

[balmy condor]

failing the same key level over and over

like people genuinely enjoy that

and I envy that

[red schooner]

If I had to spam like, 20-30 keys for it then, yeah nah

[fair coyote]

you are basically complaining you are the healthy one 😄

[balmy condor]

I mean yeah kinda

it's also my job so like, bit of a difference there

[red schooner]

I liked the game, I just also liked other games so its just, I'd like to raid in WoW then have the rest of the week to do my own things.

But to keep up it wasn't an option.

[fair coyote]

99% of people dont like their job, nothing knew when you do something over and over

[balmy condor]

when you have to theorycraft and write guides weeks/months before a patch or expansions comes out

it kinda already burns you out when the patch itself goes live

at least to some extent

and that's normal

I get it

but I sometimes wish I still enjoyed things the way that like a new player sees the game ya know

having that original wonder and desire to just sit and grind

I miss that

[scarlet orbit]

I do enjoy that. I started this game with playing only m+ and just got into raiding to get gear ^^
m+ was just turning my brains of and having a good time pressing buttons

[red schooner]

It'd be nice to play Classic again completely blind, just, whole world to explore.

[royal lantern]

just sit down and grind your teeth

[balmy condor]

I think the only way I'm enjoying spamming m+ again is either the system gets a huge overhaul and redesign so it's new and fresh, or I turn it into content somehow

like if I do all my m+ on stream and then turn it into a youtube series or something, I might have the motivation to do it

but if I had to just kinda sit there and spam M+

I don't think I can do it anymore

I'm too unc for that shit

[scarlet orbit]

I really started playing the game at the start of df. Its probably new enough for me still to keep me engaged.

[balmy condor]

yeah

I started playing before m+ was a thing

this year marks a decade since m+ released

I've been playing wow for nearly 12 years now

and I'm 26

think about that

half of my life has been in wow

I think it's entirely normal that I don't have the drive anymore to grind like a degen

[scarlet orbit]

Yea for sure. And i refuse to think about that. Im also 26 and before i played wow i sunk thousend of hours in dino games.
So yea not thinking about that. I at least try to keep my mental stable

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/t-rex-front-flip-like-a-boss-happy-gif-10635113858359265737

[royal lantern]

you know, it feels weird cus m+ feels different but also stale?

[last skiff]

I'm mad, because no guild that raids two nights a week wants a rogue in the range I'm looking for.

[royal lantern]

what range are you looking for

like, rogue tends to be one of the easier classes to get a raidspot because nobody plays it

and everyone wants the raidbuff spreadsheet filled

[last skiff]

350-650 world , idk every time 2 rogues

[royal lantern]

2nights wr 350 is allready really high, you know that right

[last skiff]

ofc, Its like the best im applying to

[balmy condor]

Yeah, and the new dungeons are good too, but like that staleness sets in real quick again

It’s sad

[royal lantern]

i think its because the actual combat part in m+ is limited in what they can do because its only 5 people, so it must be doable by all classes

so it feels very same-y extremely quick

[balmy condor]

I don't even think its that

for me m+ lost a lot of fun when I had to turn my brain on and kick and stun and do a bunch of shit

I think to me, M+ has always been most fun to just log in and pull half the dungeon and giga deeps

and I get why it's not that

but idk, I don't find keeping 3 mobs in a cc chain to be particularly enjoyable, even if it is the more "stimulating" or "engaging" gameplay

it's like would diablo or path of exile be more fun if you had to keybind CC abilities to interrupt mechanics from rares?

probably not

that sounds really unfun

I think it's similar to me for m+

[fair coyote]

poe2 vibes

[balmy condor]

yeh I hate poe2

[scarlet orbit]

I think thats a very popular opinion. Like acadamy or gambit are some of the most liked dungeons where you just blast big aoe in not that deadly pulls.
And then we have dungeons like streets 🙂

[balmy condor]

I think midnight is on the right track tbh

vision wise I was a hater

but I think I'm converted now

I'm convinced

but it's gonna be rough probably all of midnight while they fiddle with all the shit

[runic hinge]

Less stops. Less kicks. More blast. Pls and ty

[balmy condor]

season 1 is going to be insano rough

[royal lantern]

midnights biggest problem is not the ideas

its literally just that they decided to do it all at once with almost no time

[balmy condor]

yeh I mean that's just blizzard though

[fair coyote]

we have to accept that they have to finish the cook after launch

[balmy condor]

they rush everything

[royal lantern]

still wanna know who thought its a good idea to do a big UI change + the addon thing AND do some bigger changes on almost all classes AND change how they wanna make dungeons and raids all at once

[fair coyote]

i don't think it is that impactful, they are probably different people working on it

[sharp viper]

i don't think that's what h is concerned about

[balmy condor]

it's not about who's working on it

it's that it's a lot of big changes all at once

which impact each other

[royal lantern]

blizz is allready well known for having a big "left hand doesnt know what the right is doing" approach to stuff

so doing all those big fundamental changes at once is kinda inviting some spicy times

[balmy condor]

like if you change itemization, dungeons, raids, class design, world content, quest content, UI, addon support

those are all different teams

but it's also like

basically a different game at that point

[royal lantern]

like, it doesnt matter if its gonna be positive or negative in the long run

the first 6-8months will be kinda yikes lol

thats a given

[fair coyote]

yeah, i am ok with taking the L for a few months if it works out long term

[royal lantern]

another thing is, many people forget that it does blindside a good chunk of players

like, there will be a HUGE amount of people that will go into the prepatch and ask "why is elvui not working anymore?????"

[humble verge]

theres no way, i open a terminal - first word and actual unlock is lobotomized

also what are you guys talking about

[royal lantern]

IF

like

lets be real

the class changes are just the ussual pruning they do, and then they add stuff back lol

[balmy condor]

it definitely isn't

the usual pruning is nothing compared to midnight

like literally nothing

[royal lantern]

going mop->wod was the same level tbh

[balmy condor]

there are specs out there that lost more buttons going into midnight than buttons they have left

[fair coyote]

i think they are taking a page from classic success and trying to convert people to retail since df, and simplifying the game is part of that

[balmy condor]

idk bout that

[royal lantern]

they are not doing that because they know for a good while now that classic players wont touch retail and that the playerbases are mostly seperated

[balmy condor]

yeh

they tried to cross-over the population

[fair coyote]

i might be biased cause i am a classic player converted

[balmy condor]

but the overlap from classic/retail

is very slim

classic players enjoy a very different game

[royal lantern]

the original idea of classic was "give people something to do bettwen patches in retail, so they can play retail until they run out of content->play classic until out of content->play retail again because now it got new content->repeat"

but like

that didnt happen

turned into 2 different playerbases

[fair coyote]

but to me stuff like the talent trees have very little agency and are there because of classic

[royal lantern]

its why the "faster content release schedule" startet aswell, in the end everything is based around keeping players playing your game

the Classic way didnt work, so they just went with the current "we release some smaller stuff once ina while, it maybe doesnt properly work but who cares it brings people back" thing they do

[royal lantern]

i mean, we know that the trees are only "temporary" anyway

literally said so on day1

[runic hinge]

Classic is not more successful than retail. I don’t think midnights direction is influenced by classic at all

[royal lantern]

yeha, that kinda aswell

[warm vortex]

You're always a hater pookie

Smh

[royal hull]

can someone explain the reason behinde these shiv timings on kingsbane window?

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/X8dakfH63DbY4KvW?fight=41&type=casts&source=33&view=events

i do understan why u do it before kingsbane

but idk why he uses it later down the duration

[balmy condor]

yeah, the shiv before the deathmark is for the coin flips

and then 8s later it expires, so he shivs again

he got a tier set bug, so he had everything again at 1min, so it repeats, just same thing

and then he uses a single shiv for the last 8s of kingsbane that doesn't have a deathmark

cause that's when kingsbane is the strongest

[royal hull]

yea but i see in other logs he has like plex that he only uses shiv at the begining of the kingsbane

but here he does it like this

[balmy condor]

on plexus you can't really use shiv on the last 8s for the kingsbane at 0:45 cause you're getting a pushback

but that dimensius log you linked is the correct usage

[royal hull]

what about loom?

he does it same

there

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/HnpAK2zy6CQfjNTP?fight=38&type=damage-done&source=198

here

[balmy condor]

mistake I guess

[royal hull]

i see

tnx

[balmy condor]

he also just rips a shiv for no reason

which kinda fucked his last kingsbane

so idk, bad muscle memory or something

its not really too impactful of a mistake

[royal hull]

aight

[balmy condor]

in general assa has a lot of things you can do where it just doesn't matter

can hit random buttons 10-15% of the time and won't change your dps

[royal hull]

nice 😄

tbh this is really confusing , i see in all his single target logs that he shiv before kingsbane but on aoe bosses like nazindri or araz he does it at the end of kingsbane

[balmy condor]

I mean if you really need an explanation, you could point towards bigger kingsbane and using shiv for arterial precision to increase caustic damage on the adds at certain points versus using shiv at the start of kingsbane to front load more damage

But again, this is all just 0.whatever% differences that have no realistic impact

Sims have shiv at the last 8 of kingsbane being like 0.2 or 0.3% better than at the start

If using shiv at the start for something fight specific has a benefit, you’re probably bringing it back to equality

[royal hull]

ah ok i guess i get the gist of it

ty for the explanation

i though its so important that i was actually gonna memorize the timings

[severe meadow]

If things like this are confusing I would probably stray away from trying to memorize how someone else plays and get comfortable with yourself first

Learning how these things function by itself would be helpful

If you just press a button because someone else did, you're not doing anything for yourself

[royal lantern]

^

[mild dagger]

Heyo new to assassination, what do you do if your tier set procs twice? Do you wait for CD's and trinkets to finish their CD before you press them again?

For Fatebound BTW

[coral ibex]

depends on the fight

sometimes sending kb early is right sometimes saving kb and dm for 1’ is right

[balmy condor]

You either ignore and play normally or hold and send at 1min

[mild dagger]

You know if it's best to send or hold on Dimmy?

And does it only double proc on pull? Never mid fight?

[old obsidian]

i have that question too

[balmy condor]

Depends on your timings tbh

[balmy condor]

I can double proc mid fight, yes

[old obsidian]

When KB glitches and becomes misaligned, do I wait for a mark?

[coral ibex]

if you push p1 before 2:30 you want to send at 1m

[balmy condor]

If sending at 1min gives you an extra cast, then send at 1min instead of 1:30

Yeh

[balmy condor]

Didn’t you just reply to the answer to your question

[mild dagger]

thanks sir!

I am swapping from Outlaw since we're on a time crunch to get Dimmy killed now... 🙁

Is it worth ever using Bubbling Wax over Mana oil?

[balmy condor]

Hell naw

[mild dagger]

Thanks! I just saw this under the S3 on wowhead (which I believe you wrote 😉 )

[balmy condor]

Tis all the consumables

[mild dagger]

Gootcha!

[drifting cedar]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[drifting cedar]

Guys in the opener are we vanishing before or after KB?

Last time I played it was before? Fatebound ST

But if I vanish after KB I overcap so many points

[balmy condor]

!dj

[prisma monolith]

Vanishing On Fatebound

• you vanish for double jeopardy, a Fatebound talent
• this causes your next flip to flip an additional coin, and this coin can be an edge-case coin
• because of this, you want to vanish when you know the next flip is an edge-case flip
• edge case flips happen as a result of pressing deathmark, kingsbane, or the two envenoms afterwards which are affected by cold blood. You can vanish before ANY of these flips.
• you should be vanishing every 3 minutes, lining up with every other deathmark, and this will also align with netherprism every 3 minutes for maximum burst

[haughty flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gato-funny-dj-festa-gif-15160628

[royal hull]

is hand of fate pure luck or there is some trick to it?

i was comparing my log with another guy but i see his hand of fate do 2% more damage than mine and that is when im doing 6 more envenoms in total

[royal lantern]

are you asking if the "flip a coin" hero talent is rng?

[royal hull]

yea

[royal lantern]

take a gues

[royal hull]

i mean it cant be that mine is always lower or am i that unlucky?xd

[storm forum]

Do logs track the damage Amp too? Or just the damage proc?

Cause I would expect ur just flipping different coins and its not tracking the damage Amp ones

[royal hull]

it does

[storm forum]

Or maybe yeah ur just getting shorter flip streaks and getting unlucky

[coral ibex]

you are literally asking if you are getting unlucky on a coin flip mechanic

and the answer is obviously yes

[thorn thorn]

[royal lantern]

so

we did a raid reclear

1 of our guys was streaming on YT for friends

somebody did a very dumb wipe on dimmy and the RL said "allright, now everybody send him something as punishment" and 2 people insantly said Pipebomb

the stream got flagged by Youtube for the Word Pipebomb

[thorn thorn]

[severe meadow]

Stealing that tech

[haughty pewter]

Is vanish broken rn? I can't ambush during vanish anymore

[slim copper]

y'all think we need to finish the current campaign quests out in kareshi wastes?>

[balmy condor]

Have you tried relogging, there’s some weird shit when you swap between sub and assa

[balmy condor]

Need to finish for what

[sharp viper]

Turn down for what

[red schooner]

This feels like a spambot

Only joined this discord today, probably something dodgy. Not today

Okay, they either deleted or got shot, carry on.

[spice surge]

🤝

[balmy condor]

Eleem stays strapped

[royal hull]

can someone tell me the reason my dps is low here

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/JRNaxfQ9zhjVnK4w?fight=last&type=damage-done&source=15

[balmy condor]

starting to feel a little bit like a broken record, but you're still undergeared, your kills are still insanely long, and you're looking at an aoe fight where you have to pad to parse

it's week like 9 million of the patch, you're simply not going to be competitive

[royal hull]

ok mb

[shy creek]

for reference, loomithar can die in about two minutes on heroic

so like 40% of their fight is literally in lust

[rotund oak]

Logged on retail, 0 lag in dormogal

is anyone even playing retail

[nova gust]

me on god

[lethal arrow]

i love the current strat on loomithar

which is just completely ignore all mechanics and zug the boss

havent personally done it but it sounds very funny

[haughty pewter]

It happened multiple days in a row. I haven’t switched from sub and assa recently. Honestly took like three weeks off playing the toon after the guild fell apart post CE, with the holidays and stuff.

[balmy condor]

Yeh dunno

Would assume UI issue then

[maiden sierra]

quit wow personally, but its post holidays end of season, so way less people playing

on a monday

@balmy condor i doomed a lot from early alpha sin rogue changes, can i get a tldr of the current version on beta?
im asking because i want a reason to come back... wow is an addiction on god

[haughty flicker]

biggest reason to come back is the ability to transmog daggers into swords

what more do you want

[maiden sierra]

why would i want swords tho

i like daggers

[haughty flicker]

variety is the spice of life

plus now you can be axeaxeination

[maiden sierra]

i think i changed my mog once in 8 years of playing

[jaunty sky]

You can also mog the floppy fish onto your daggers now

[maiden sierra]

ok that is fire

[balmy condor]

Stealth doesn’t matter for shit anymore, ct is a generator that spreads bleeds, energy is as slow in aoe as it is in single target, pooling is back but unclear exactly how because it’s tuned really awkwardly, deathstalker is still dumb as fuck, fatebound is good in aoe now

[maiden sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/disco-cat-gif-21912205

sigh
guess im rerolling demon hunter

[balmy condor]

Oh and dropping kingsbane is impossible now

Like actual brain damage if you try to even think about it

[haughty flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/watch-me-demi-lovato-dancing-with-the-devil-pay-attention-look-at-me-im-coming-for-you-gif-20868306

[balmy condor]

Shiv’s gone too

Idk if you got that

[maiden sierra]

ya know, i quit rogue because i hated how they simplified and slowed the spec.
meanwhile im playing guild wars 2 right now and on my rogue i press literally 0 buttons in my rotation

[balmy condor]

Okay well slow and simple is kinda the entire game now

[maiden sierra]

(im getting brain damage playing that mmo)

[balmy condor]

That’s the core feature of midnight

So

[maiden sierra]

yeah unfortunatly its not my cup of tea

if my 1 year sub did not get charged in september i would not have bought midnight...

it is what it is

ill play a bit for m+ and then quit and come back for next season to repeat the cycle

afterall my guild imploded this tier so i have no shackles holding me down

[royal hull]

is it just me or yall get this tier set bug as well?

[maiden sierra]

is it the fatebound cd bug?

[royal hull]

deathmark

[maiden sierra]

yep

cant believe that shit is still in the game

[royal hull]

idk how they do it but the rank 1 chinese guy on mythic raid uses it and gets a deathmark every min

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/PJLZqGXMfwdYW1KN?fight=5&type=casts&source=12&view=events

[maiden sierra]

wasnt that a dps loss

[royal hull]

this is it

XD

its crazy

[maiden sierra]

i swear when i played sending at 1min due to the bug was a small dps loss as it makes things not allign with other cds

[royal hull]

it does specially since he uses prism

so he can do his opener every min

[maiden sierra]

but with prism is worse no?

since you cant get any stacks in 1 min

[royal hull]

well it is huge even without trinket

[maiden sierra]

ah

soulbinder log

useless

pad aoe fight

consult the damage graph

https://tenor.com/view/cat-huh-cat-uhh-cat-sus-sus-cat-weird-stare-gif-1962087747498177879

[severe meadow]

If you can get two DMs in execute it’s probably nuclear

I haven’t done anything outside of dimmy for the last two months so idk anymore

[severe meadow]

I don’t think adds count towards the parse

And if they good luck parsing that nightmare

[maiden sierra]

they do

if they didint there would be a disclamer on the top of the log

[severe meadow]

They need to add one that says everyone needs to afk but you

[maiden sierra]

thats why parsing on these fights is pointless

its a game of who can pay your raid team more gold to afk on adds

god i love a fight where they exclude adds from parse

the warrior discord is always crying when they do

[severe meadow]

I got a 99 on it before adds died instantly

I escaped

And I think rank 16, but that’s long gone now

[analog field]

if you had DM every 1 min ofc it is a dps gain as you use vanish and racial more often the problem is most of us get it in the first one only and not on the next as the coin count is easier to achive in the opener, so it is kinda same

[rotund oak]

ill prolly put a stop on retail in general,no point in playing this

thing

kinda hyped with d4 lately

its fun

[flat pier]

Lend me your power guys my guild is going to try and get CE before its Pre-Patch

https://tenor.com/view/monday-rosh-hashanah-dragon-ball-goku-gif-63189344674878238

[shy creek]

i believe in you

[royal lantern]

the game is just like me now fr

[jolly stirrup]

Anyone else had their Raid ID fucked up? For my whole guild we went in and had 8/8 Mythic ID

[nimble tartan]

hey guys miss yall cant wait to learn more soon ❤️

[humble verge]

https://tenor.com/view/chiikawa-rakko-momonga-kani-kuri-manju-gif-2613900498155503404

[normal mist]

Only real ones know how important this scene was

[flat pier]

We all raised our arms for Goku

[balmy condor]

I didn’t, too young

[flat pier]

https://tenor.com/view/yoshikage-kira-kira-yoshikage-jjba-jjba-part-4-part-4-gif-5220899897762516620

[prime hull]

hmm i generally get good parses on every boss but im green logging dimmy and i thought i played pretty correct/well. is there something obvious im messing up? https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/a:2GPvgaYHCfZnKj8B?fight=38&type=damage-done&source=436

[lethal arrow]

dimmy lowkey impossible to parse on now sadly

[unique lark]

bit late, but...

Lethal Dose is the swap. Maybe it has changed, but I recall guides recommending Doomblade or Sanguine Blades, but I missed them much more than Dose.

I never tested cutting Doomblade much admittedly, but cutting Sanguine Blades cost me a 1-2M overall dps in a dungeon. After not noticing much of a difference in overall dps, simmed 1 vs 2pts in Lethal Dose--200k dps loss. I'm sure that it's a bigger dps loss than that in practice, but I kicks/CC in 12-14 keys are pretty bad right now, so a pretty minor sacrifice, since I'm still doing 8-9M overall.

If I'm running with friends that're better than the average pug, I go back to 2pt Lethal Dose, which I personally prefer. The wonders of being flexible.

[pliant silo]

you get 2 shivs per minute, and one tea - it all lines up

what might misalign it is sending the kb at 0:30 and shivving with it

then you don't have the second shiv for the 1:15 deathmark

or it comes late if you stall 3-8 seconds anywhere

if you send the 0:30 kb and don't shiv with it, then you're sitting on 2 shiv charges for 15+ seconds

not sure what's better

definitely simpler to just send every minute

[old obsidian]

you can pharse better but... 1 you group is lack of damage or youre trolling, like me i use all my things in 2 adds for lack of damage and the rest of guild can burn dimensius last part

[rotund oak]

nothing is free

so no

[prime hull]

to be fair we are boosting 3 people so its a long fight similar to prog timings

But that shouldnt cause a green parse imo

[royal lantern]

well, the #1 thing for good parses is short killimers

and padding

🤷‍♂️

doesnt help that for assa its a giant meme this tier anyway

[golden loom]

sometimes having double the normal kill time is good!!! (first boss and yeah half the pug were probably dead to first wall )

[balmy condor]

you defile this sacred classcord with your warrior parse?

[golden loom]

my rogue ones are too bad to see the light of day...

atleast I got my pc fixed so I can play wow again!

[balmy condor]

very based

[golden loom]

shocker that the cpu was fried!

[balmy condor]

parsing on rogue with the bug existing

is so pain

[golden loom]

I've only killed final two on rogue once aswell

And never been alive when soul hunters die on a single kill on a single char great tier

[weary stump]

Looks like outlaw rogue to me

[royal lantern]

spoken like a dirty casual that just cant proc it

[balmy condor]

[weary stump]

You'll get more bug procs if you go farm spider people renown, as arachnids are close enough to bugs

[broken mist]

Hello I’m playing assassination for the first time, can anyone share rotation template for 1v1? Like when to use deathmark/kingsbane and such thanks

[royal lantern]

wowhead guide answers 98% of your questions

but like

its WoW cds, you slam tthem on CD ofc

[normal mist]

If you're talking pvp ---> #pvp

[broken mist]

Thanks

[warm vortex]

My beloved

[royal hull]

how is rouge in midnight?

is it gonna get buffed or nerfed

[warm vortex]

Btw does anyone have a black box on their quest log when they log on sometimes

Dissapears after reloading

idk is weird

[coral ibex]

just wait for some youtuber to make a tier list

[balmy condor]

You’re so based and real for that

[coral ibex]

[rotund oak]

Rogue not rouge

we are not a lipstick

we slice and eviscerate and murder

[royal hull]

XD

[flat pier]

Speak for yourself

https://tenor.com/view/xmen-97-rogue-hair-flip-x-men-97-gif-5319162130157926875

[rotund oak]

🗡️

[normal mist]

Meanwhile I'm watching my daughter make random sounds while smiling

[balmy condor]

She’s making random sounds while smiling?

Maybe a future as a ventriloquist

[rotund oak]

❤️

so proud of you brother

[rotund oak]

https://tenor.com/eN85caNnI91.gif

leave the mini royal alone

[normal mist]

Basically yeah

[weary stump]

One benefit of being a rogue main is no one else ever wants to play our class

[severe meadow]

[waxen oyster]

Do people unironically think rogue has button bloat?

[balmy condor]

rogue having button bloat is about as controversial as water being wet, yes

[waxen oyster]

like tbh idk what buttons the class has that are truly "useless"

well, sub could have blades and flag be the same button

[balmy condor]

tricks

[waxen oyster]

how else am i gonna kill the ret pally on pull

[shy creek]

nah tricks is useful

at least on outlaw and sub its really nice if u play w a brewmaster

[hallow glade]

They really need tricks to redirect Body Aggro and not just ability aggro

Dying in tricks to Body Aggro is so infuriating

[shy creek]

yea would be nice qol

[coral ibex]

water is not wet, it is what makes other things wet

https://tenor.com/view/noahnoah-gif-15569947813902812404

[hallow glade]

and how exactly does it make things wet

[oblique moon]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[fallow canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/lahan-apothecary-diaries-aksyually-kusuriya-nerd-gif-13583466742075815075

[coral ibex]

"wet" describes the state of having water molecules on you

[haughty flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-discord-nerd-gif-2472859695077396998

[subtle imp]

3min plexus prism or lily?

[severe meadow]

Plexus in the big 26

[subtle imp]

[severe meadow]

Probably Prism tho

[shy creek]

lily

wait this is ass achannel

prism

[subtle imp]

does it stack to 18 after first use or it dont matter just use whatever

its w/e im vibin

[nova kelp]

never take prism off tbh

just never

well... in current patch obvs

[fallen moss]

anyone know why DM is ready for platform 2 on dimmy sometimes and most times its not?

[balmy condor]

Probably bug/no bug

Welcome to fatebound tier

[fallen moss]

thought so

[rotund oak]

truthful statement,wetness is liquid adhering into something else

[pliant silo]

etc

[brisk kernel]

Kinda new to sin, do we have an upgrade order (crests) when it comes to gear? Main hand obv. but after that? Is off-hand equally important due to dps, multilate etc. or is the higher stat gain on chest, shoulders better?

[pliant silo]

not offhand

biggest ilvl upgrade pmuch

pretty sure it's in the wowhead guide, crafted section

but wrists/belt are common, assuming you'll acquire tier pieces

oh

if you just mean crests for upgrading stuff in general not crafting

mh chest/leg/etc in order of stat gains

[golden loom]

Offhand is the lowest prio slot

[weak ice]

Hey, I can craft one 727 item. Is it better to craft offhand dagger, or wrists? I have both just 697

nvm it was answered above :p

[balmy condor]

The upgrade order is called raidbots top gear, generally mainhand/trinket, then big pieces like chest, the worst is wrist and the uber super duper worst is offhand

[normal mist]

I said the same in general chat, but in fewer words

[analog field]

if 3 minutes means you dont get the 3:15 DM then for sure lilly. When i sim around 3:30 min is the point where prism surpasses. it is really close.

[fast shell]

Does anyone have good POVs for people playing fatebound talents on the araz, soulbinder and soul hunters raid fights? My logs are decent for pure single target fights but clearly don't understand the nuance of playing fatebound on these ones

[sharp viper]

Araz is just pew pew your priority target if they can take damage which boils down to: boss > pylon > boss
soulbinder logs are just a meme cause you would need for others to not do add damage to do big numbers
soul hunters fatebound is DS bleed build is easier but that also might depend on how your raid is doing the fight

[haughty pewter]

My advice for Fatebound Araz is to send the 3rd Kingsbane on your assigned pylon and hold DM for the damage amp.

Soulbinder would be weird because the adds spawn at 2m which is outside of the deathmark and Kingsbane window, unless you hold it.

Hunters would be the Nexus King Build with prio target being the boss that will stay down during intermission and keeping rupture on all 3 for energy gains. The real challenge is making sure you get the whole deathmark off before the other two bosses leave the arena for the splash damage. Bad tanking can hurt here too.

@balmy condor I figured out the vanish issue, I had “/use 13” macro’d after “/cast vanish” and it was popping me out of stealth.

I take the trinket in and out of the macro based on the boss I’m doing so I probably got lazy once and didn’t notice it would have side-effects.

[jaunty sky]

the trick for this is just to have multiple macros

i have one with pot and one without

[zinc vale]

anyone can share whysper plater here pls

i need it so bad

[scarlet orbit]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[scarlet orbit]

Here you go

[zinc vale]

tyty

[fast shell]

fair fair, I may have got baited by top logs mostly being FB > DS on these fights, I have indeed played DS on these to better results than FB previously but figured it wasn't meta

[scarlet orbit]

For araz fatebound is better. The adds dont really live so its mostly a singletarget fight. And ds mark is cringe in intermission.

[marsh fjord]

13 days of whispyr plater you gonna be addicted to it afterwards and cant use it anymore

[junior yoke]

Hello guys, one question, how to use unyielding prism? do we stack 20 or...?

or do you know if there's some advice on wowhead

[shy creek]

!prism

damn does that not work

[junior yoke]

🙁 XD

[shy creek]

!vanish

[prisma monolith]

Vanish->Ambush during cooldowns with Darkest Night up has two main benefits:

• Getting more mark uptime by reapplying when it's down
• Consuming Darkest Night then puts you from 3 stacks of the mark down to 2 since the mark is already applied

As of September 13th with the Echoing Reprimand Fix, that second part is broken. Blizzard inadvertantly added a bug where you cannot consume mark stacks while darkest night is active. This will hopefully get resolved quickly as it is quite impactful. Until that time, you might want to consider taking improved garrote in your single target build (instead of 1 point of vicious venoms, or instead of improved poison). You do not have to do this, and if you would like to continue to play without improved garrote, you would simply hold onto your vanish in case you drop the mark. Once the bug is fixed you would go back to vanish->ambush.

[shy creek]

theres a command for it somewhere LOL

[scarlet orbit]

Yea in the sub channel ^^

[junior yoke]

do we use the trink the same as subs?

[scarlet orbit]

Do you need the aoe or singletarget usage?

[junior yoke]

I mainly do m+, but I thought it has lot of raid usage too

[scarlet orbit]

In m+ as deathstalker you just macro it to dm and forget thats pretty much it.
In raid its still the best trinket but we play there fatebound on kinda all bosses now.

As fatebound you treat it like a 3 min trinket and use it every 3 min with dm + vanish. Be sure to have the flips from dm covered.

There are some boss specific timings but thats mostly it

[junior yoke]

uhmm okay

thank you very much for the information 🙂

[scarlet orbit]

For bosses with specific timings you can always look at lorrgs to find out the commen usage

[junior yoke]

sure, thank you very much, I'll look for a wa that tracks it 🙂

[scarlet orbit]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[scarlet orbit]

You could yoink the prism one out of one of the class ones if you dont find one to your liking.

[jaunty sky]

https://wago.io/3xIKwjYJZ
i use this one cause i don't have to look for one if i swap trinkets

[junior yoke]

I'm having a look, I'd like just to track mark and darkest night, a bit tiem ago I just had this one

but if I import, I pick them al

[scarlet orbit]

Yes but you can pull the ones you want out and delete the rest

[junior yoke]

uhm okay lemme check

[junior yoke]

fine, I got it, used this one as well, thank you very much both of you 🙂 very kind have a nice new year

[vague dagger]

whats happening in prepatch to our class? is WAs removed and such??

[flat pier]

Depends if the Addon makers have said they are still going into MID. Like ELVUI will still be around but WA's who knows

[glass moon]

hey guys been working on a rogue lately - i am wondering if rogues are good pve like mythic keys raids ? ?

[royal hull]

guys can someone explain in what situations we use envenom on full stack and when on 5?

or do you use it as long as it is on 5 combo?or you get lucky and get more

ofc on fatebound talent

[severe meadow]

5 minimum

[royal hull]

i know but i mean do you sit on 5 always or you mutilate again to get 7?

[severe meadow]

Envenom at 5

If you get more it’s just a cool little bonus

As in if you’re at 4 points and you muti

Finishers in general follow this rule

[severe meadow]

They’re fine in both

[royal hull]

ok tnx ❤️

[torn dome]

7 with darkest night

[severe meadow]

He said with FB

[normal mist]

When to mutilate and when to envenom:

• Do I have 4 combo points or less? Mutilate;
• Do I have 5 combo points or more? Envenom;

https://tenor.com/view/that's-it-nate-bargatze-your-friend-bargatze-that's-all-netflix-gif-2080717493130147136

[royal hull]

Tnx

[sharp viper]

I’ll be glad to see VV gone

[keen spruce]

Basically the potential wasted cp from seal fate crits makes it better to env on 5 instead of mut.

[night vessel]

!poison

[prisma monolith]

You should always be using poisons you talent into, which means the following:

Lethals:

• Deadly always + Amplifying if you're talented into it with DTB, Instant only as a final option
  Non-Lethals:
• Atrophic/Numbing, crippling if you're talented into DTB

Wound poison damage in PvE is atrocious and should never be used

[humble verge]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/avAG17zfrYnW8MLk?fight=last&type=damage-done lost on dps

[nimble tartan]

⁶🤷⁷

[normal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-frog-shrek-frog-dying-sick-gif-5481428753379762586

[balmy condor]

https://tenor.com/view/symboli-rudolf-67-meme-uma-musume-umamusume-gif-8354787702994742859

[nimble tartan]

⁶🤷⁷

[thorn thorn]

WHAT DOES THIS MEANNNNN

[severe meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/symboli-rudolf-67-meme-uma-musume-umamusume-gif-8354787702994742859

[nimble tartan]

⁶🤷⁷

[thorn thorn]

WHAT IS ITTTTTTT

[half tartan]

What does Vanish do for current raid spec? It affects envenom doesn ti?

[haughty flicker]

!dj

[prisma monolith]

Vanishing On Fatebound

• you vanish for double jeopardy, a Fatebound talent
• this causes your next flip to flip an additional coin, and this coin can be an edge-case coin
• because of this, you want to vanish when you know the next flip is an edge-case flip
• edge case flips happen as a result of pressing deathmark, kingsbane, or the two envenoms afterwards which are affected by cold blood. You can vanish before ANY of these flips.
• you should be vanishing every 3 minutes, lining up with every other deathmark, and this will also align with netherprism every 3 minutes for maximum burst

[thorn thorn]

[balmy condor]

[thorn thorn]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

not my corn

[marsh fjord]

you can tell whispyr is back in NA

😄

[keen spruce]

Corn stealing is strictly an NA activity

[balmy condor]

Also it’s almost 4am in Germany

[haughty flicker]

never too late for eating corn

[thorn thorn]

Damn did you leave NA recently

[thorn thorn]

Cornchops are the best

[keen spruce]

I prefer a corn filet

[balmy condor]

I’m home, bowling like shit

Got off the plane at 1:30, got home at 2:20, bowling at 6

[thorn thorn]

Do you get to see those morally questionable animations

[marsh fjord]

Did you hug your baddie already

or not yet

[balmy condor]

No

[balmy condor]

Also no

It’s league

They don’t have those on

[thorn thorn]

Bro does professional bowling

[balmy condor]

Not quite how I would describe it

It’s a handicap league

Average age is probably late 40’s lmao

[thorn thorn]

https://imgur.com/sPSnQ6a

[severe meadow]

Reclear begins..

[marsh fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/goat-lick-kiss-funny-gif-14124786

[marsh fjord]

IMAGINE COMPLAINING ABOUT RECLEARING WHEN PEOPLE DONT EVEN HAVE CE

MAN MAN MAN

[thorn thorn]

krill issue

🦐

[severe meadow]

It's giga scuffed because we have people from bench in and people play off specs

2 surv hunters, frost mage, arms warrior

[marsh fjord]

Deserved

for being mean to me

https://tenor.com/view/的9-gif-12565004940729182637

Atleast i'm doing good dead wise 🙂

[thorn thorn]

Why not 99.9%

[marsh fjord]

Got sucked up and not bring down

and died

[severe meadow]

I mean hey we've seen p3 once

26%

and now we can't get back

[strange tundra]

Does the disabling of weakauras and dbm etc still a thing?
didnt they say they will disable that shit?

[pliant silo]

it's a bit more nuanced than any clickbait headline

dbm will still be a thing, many UI addons will still be doing what weakauras does currently

weakauras could continue but they're currently not

I think

there are nameplate addons, etc

just across the board quality and addon power reduced in specific ways

growing pains p1 for sure

jan 20th midnight prepatch will be a zoo

[old thistle]

"my addons dont work " many posts

[pliant remnant]

many whelps

HANDLE IT

[normal mist]

DKP minus

[quiet oriole]

I cant wait to come out of my wow hibernation and stab some bosses with my lil knifes

[severe meadow]

Changing my daggers to swords instantly

I’ve been waiting forever for this change

[real pike]

so I finally convinced our RL to let us not hold damage on dimmy last night

[humble verge]

[real pike]

and...I parsed even lower than previously

[humble verge]

LMAO

[real pike]

I just suck

time to accept it

[humble verge]

i lost to our elesham

by 30k dps

[real pike]

oof

[humble verge]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/avAG17zfrYnW8MLk?fight=last&type=damage-done

[real pike]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Xc6bJ9TCmtpMy3fx?fight=19&type=damage-done

https://tenor.com/view/mad-redshirt-red-redshirtmad-kid-mad-gif-26094399

we held damage on 2.2 for about 10 seconds but that can't make much difference

I also gambled holding KB for 30 secs for a bugged DM and then had all CDs come up literally as the boss died

so that probably didn't help

[bleak sedge]

Heyo. In the wowhead guide it looks like Cold Blood is used after kingsbane in opener, id guess this should be used before? Method guide also seems to have a different opener where deathmark and shiv are swapped (fatebound)

[scarlet orbit]

!macro

[prisma monolith]

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[scarlet orbit]

You just macro coold blood to kingsbane and forget about it

[bleak sedge]

Yea makes sense thanks 😄 Deathmark or shiv first though?

[real pike]

shiv

[bleak sedge]

Ty!

[royal lantern]

dont admit failure

blame rng

[rotund oak]

weak

[wary light]

Sorry if been asked/known bug already - does anyone know why on saladbar platforms hitting titan I just sometimes don't get envenom stacks?

Has been happening a lot

[balmy condor]

probably cause the log is being recorded from the other side

[wary light]

Ah it may be that, but I am sometimes just not getting the buff/my WA isn't tracking it

[balmy condor]

haven't heard of that

[wary light]

Using your pack and the envenom buff bars just disappear once I get to platform

Is that based off combatlog info? Figured not

[balmy condor]

I mean it is

needs the combatlog to track envenom stacks

but there's nothing that would break on saladbar specifically

cause weakauras are reading your log

[wary light]

Thanks Whispyr, I'll get a leftside log and see if anything is up

[nova gust]

is this from today? I had some trouble with Envenom buff randomly disappearing today as well in raid

[coral ibex]

thats just a normal bug related to parries

[wary light]

It is but I've been noticing it a lot of salhadar over the tier

[balmy condor]

I mean parry eating envenom buff sure

but for like

30 seconds straight?

that's insane

[coral ibex]

is it

get parried, lose buff

have to refresh rupture

get parried again

get chosen for a mech

[balmy condor]

this has literally never happened to me in this expansion

just getting parried twice in a row is rare enough

[coral ibex]

bro i get parried with a sub rogue in the raid

https://tenor.com/view/tommy-shelby-peaky-blinders-gun-head-screaming-gif-4778177745873740048

[shy creek]

they got rid of that after last season

the hidden sub rogue buff was nice

[coral ibex]

what

[balmy condor]

sub trickster

doesn't give raidwide parry immune

[coral ibex]

ive been so close to whispering the other rogue asking whats up with their fazed uptime

[shy creek]

yeah

everytime i get parried playing assa i feel the pain

[coral ibex]

i want to throw my keyboard through my monitor when i get parried during my opener

[spice surge]

But it used to

[balmy condor]

yeah

was silly

[spice surge]

Not as silly as the parry mechanic itself

[balmy condor]

true

[rotund oak]

banger of a series btw

10/10

[errant swallow]

10/10

[storm forum]

Giving rogue a can't parry poison would be the best raid buff instantly

[haughty flicker]

it would be a dogshit raidbuff

because it would cement parry as never leaving even more

[royal lantern]

dont remove parry

bring back spell resist

[old halo]

built a death lazer XD

[marsh fjord]

Dimensius parries me so much

its disgusting

[nova gust]

is there an actual way of reducing parry chance or does blizzard just like to see me press button and not get my cps?

[balmy condor]

don't stand in front of the target

[nova gust]

what if I want to stab them in the face tho?

[balmy condor]

get parried

[nova gust]

can we get an instructional video on how to do it properly?

[marsh fjord]

Dimmy wants a word with you

[balmy condor]

skill issue

[marsh fjord]

NA brain is fried again after being back in NA

[nova gust]

also fract

[marsh fjord]

fuck these bosses man

[nova gust]

bosses that require frontside stabbing is one of the reasons I'm not playing on certain private server anymore

[fresh kelp]

fractyboy doesnt parry

[severe meadow]

Dimussy does

Unfortunately

[fresh kelp]

just bully your raid into giving you far side drops so you can stay behind him

near the edge you don't get parried

[severe meadow]

Oh I do buddy

[marsh fjord]

i rather jump off

[nova gust]

don't copy my tactics

[thorn thorn]

[severe meadow]

You got a problem, lil gup?

One that can be solved with our mouths?

[balmy condor]

If you guys keep fighting I’m gonna have to ask you to take it to DM’s

Specifically a group dm with me

So I can watch

[lethal arrow]

[thorn thorn]

Sorry Whispyr I was busy giving him some terrible knowledge

[severe meadow]

ussy knowledge

[thorn thorn]

Im going to assume Whispyr knows too

[balmy condor]

I’m a knower of all things -ussy

Because I am what I eat

[thorn thorn]

[thorn thorn]

Toeussy?

[severe meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/fake-smile-cat-gif-5516759774782239920

[thorn thorn]

Give me your best wow gifs

[severe meadow]

You supply me with those

[thorn thorn]

Surely you have found others

[marsh fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/wow-world-of-warcraft-tbc-wow-tbc-wow-classic-gif-2372941189131161614

[thorn thorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/121880917579923458/1442361799151452261/leap2.gif

[slim copper]

I know it’s late in the season obv but would you guys like to help me with some mythic reclear logs questions? 🥹

[coral ibex]

https://imgur.com/EVRehLn

[severe meadow]

banger

[severe meadow]

whats up

(no guarantee I answer, currently re-clearing)

[slim copper]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/compare/QjP2FVTfC8xkKtwJ/self?fight=12%2C12&type=damage-done&source=128%2C9&view=timeline

I'm the rogue who wiffs it around the 2m mark

i think that i just blew cds too early in the middle like a dummy

[lethal arrow]

just hold them cds for adds

its a pad fight

if u dont pad u dont parse

[balmy condor]

I mean given current parse culture you also have to bug abuse

ain't enough to just pad

[lethal arrow]

yeah that too

idk what the bug even is i just press my buttons

fk the parse

[balmy condor]

nutwzrd has a video on it

it's an hour long

but it's abuseable

[lethal arrow]

very cool

videos private

the sacred texts!

[balmy condor]

weird

[slim copper]

any way to see it?

[balmy condor]

well if it's private then no

[thorn thorn]

Bro is keeping the parses to himself

[slim copper]

https://tenor.com/view/frodo-keep-your-secrets-alright-then-lotr-gif-12907121

i dont know if im allowed to ask for you guys to tell me how to do it

so i wont

but my dms are open lol

jk i would never

[thorn thorn]

[balmy condor]

tldr is basically you have to keep your coins very close together stack wise and then when you hit 7 stacks on one, you move away from your coin and quickly get another stack before the projectile hits you

or you just vanish on 6h5t or whatever works

point is, proc capstone

[slim copper]

interesting

[balmy condor]

12 days until prepatch

go go go

abuse

tier set and capstone both get reworked so you gotta get it now!

[slim copper]

the fight that I dont understand at all for the life of me is araz. Adds die too fast for CS to seem to matter. So do we go IG? and we have to swap to the echo right? or are we staying on araz as normal because of target swap inability

[balmy condor]

you never swap off of araz

and you definitely play caustic

pretty sure if caustic does nothing except cleave poisons damage it would be more damage than anything else

like you cleave a single envenom 25 seconds into the fight and caustic has paid for itself

[slim copper]

ok its been a while since i progged it so i couldnt remember as far as the swapping. figured same rule as loomi and rik lol

[balmy condor]

tbf at this point in the tier we are deadass 40%+ stronger than we were at the start of the tier

[slim copper]

hopefully next week goes better. I only parsed a 25 lmao

[balmy condor]

and at the start of the tier we're not swapping either

so now there's DEFINITELY nothing to swap to

[lethal arrow]

get ur parses now!

or just play sub

and not have to deal with coins

[balmy condor]

yeah but then you have to deal with sub

literally a lose-lose

[lethal arrow]

i love sitting there auto attacking to build combo points!

[haughty flicker]

dont remind me pls

[balmy condor]

reminder, 12 days until prepatch

[lethal arrow]

12 days to hit your goals

or never see them again

[balmy condor]

12 days until no more maplestory

[lethal arrow]

12 days until more maplestory

[balmy condor]

[haughty flicker]

[balmy condor]

brother what

[lethal arrow]

no more wow until midnight after prepatch

[lethal arrow]

whats goin on here

[balmy condor]

I smell int

[haughty flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-cat-kitty-depressed-guangdang-sad-meow-gif-2548323962849249220

[balmy condor]

and not the mage kind

[lethal arrow]

you can be these guys

[balmy condor]

incorrect

I cannot

[lethal arrow]

you ever just see p3 twice in 125 pulls?

[balmy condor]

because I would rather die than be those guys

[lethal arrow]

oh shi they streamin hang on

[haughty flicker]

it has not

been a great tier

also my game is bugged so i paly without addons now

[rotund oak]

COOKING SESSION
Corrosive poison : Rogue applies a poison on the target lowering his defenses/reducing overall armor by ''X''%

[midnight atlas]

rogue utility - listen up devs.
debuff on boss which removes parries for all raid not just for trickster

[severe meadow]

Do you need a wellness check

[royal lantern]

rogue utility is that we increase group morale by being cute

[ornate dawn]

I mean just delete parry from the game at this point

[nova aspen]

u guys member when ansurek parried your kingsbane

i member

[severe meadow]

Real, I really enjoyed that fight tho

[somber sparrow]

not realizing how quick the boss pops an aoe and pulls you out of stealth so you never get the deathstalkers mark on at the start without vanishing again... that was stupid to realize you had to be so quick to ambush

[fallow canopy]

No u

[flat pier]

https://tenor.com/view/gohan-crying-gohan-cry-dragnballgt-screaming-gif-3890117968380819807

[rotund oak]

There is a worse feeling

Cheap shot => resist,Kidney shot => resist,Gouge => Dodge

Vanish => Piercing Howl

=> Alt+f4

[nova gust]

alt+f4 => realize the life you are living => launch wow again

[worldly sail]

i remember rushing my ansurek opener with possibly a low cp envenom just so i can hit my kb on the back

[spice surge]

Bro hitting the queen from the back

[weary stump]

Just like the loomussy

[nova gust]

special spiderussy treatment?

[worldly sail]

[lethal arrow]

giga chads just send KB into ansurek and dont get parried

[severe meadow]

Based

[severe meadow]

I get parried and suicide so we wipe

We are not the same

[marsh fjord]

@balmy condor Would you know where to look at in logs to see how many parries

Thanks in advance dad

[balmy condor]

it's in the miss column

if you're just looking at damage done

[marsh fjord]

oh thanks ❤️

evenom

https://tenor.com/view/prempdr-fc-mobile-fifa-gif-16778760554072111618

[thorn thorn]

12 days until people ask for prepatch sims

[balmy condor]

prepatch sims are never a thing

cause no one supports it

[royal lantern]

btw whisp, when will the midnight channels go away

with prepatch, or with midnight launch

[balmy condor]

probably prepatch but we haven't discussed it

[royal lantern]

new whisp video

god i wish whisp was real

[warm vortex]

@balmy condor

Who is this assa rogue in my feral druid video

?

[royal lantern]

watching the video and getting a AI add halfway trought it kinda fits

[sharp viper]

Remove npc parrying

[thorn thorn]

Whispyr I have a very important question for you

[haughty flicker]

Cat

[thorn thorn]

What is the appropriate course of action if your Yuumi support takes Flash

[haughty flicker]

Oh I was right

[marsh fjord]

report

say some heinous shit

to her

Like. she is a spawn of devil

[severe meadow]

How have we devolved into playing league

[marsh fjord]

new season

its banger

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-side-eye-goofy-cringe-what-gif-10708284611264215060

[normal mist]

@balmy condor being the cutest is also in your plans for 2026?

[balmy condor]

I can't be stealing my girl's job

[normal mist]

Fair enough, mad respect

[balmy condor]

also we live in actual hell

hold on, I have another example of AI hellscape

[normal mist]

I was about to click on the video and gf gave me a death stare because baby's sleeping

[balmy condor]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/340065664779681798/1457816231406211184/IMG_6446.jpg?ex=6962a6aa&is=6961552a&hm=71ff95b66f8cb517e189806dcbcca1ef08f4838d3c8c114a8af2def5fa7b5d0f&=&format=webp&width=1032&height=1376

[normal mist]

[balmy condor]

one of our friends brought it to show us while I was in germany

and it says "don't let your lazy coworkers fuck you, use AI and automation"

which is just fucking insane that we have AI advertisement

on condoms

what the hell are we doing

[normal mist]

I can't believe that half I see on the internet already is AI

It's becoming quite hard to distinguish

[balmy condor]

dinosaurs lived for hundreds of millions of years because they were too stupid to destroy themselves

humans aren't going to make it to even 100k

well, depends on what "human" means

homo sapiens I guess already made it to 300k

but like, we're so efficient at self-destruction

it's impressive tbh

[thorn thorn]

Dystopian future

Our robot overlords get ever closer

[slate crown]

thx u for sharing this I'm going back into my hole now

I'm just gonna live under a rock like patrick

[fallow canopy]

What the helly

Some advertisement manager got the wrong idea when hearing about AI gfs or some shit lmao

[haughty flicker]

wait

i can use an ai condom when i have sex with my razer ai girlfriend

the future is now

[fallow canopy]

[coral ibex]

new pookie vid

‼️

[slim copper]

Are we gonna have a must-haves article?

[rotund oak]

Hominids exist for several millions(6-8mil Sahelanthropus tchadensis),modern human(Homo Sapiens Sapiens) 177k

also you are hot and i like the cat

[sharp viper]

if you're talking about it, it's working

[warm vortex]

I haven’t even watched the Whispyr vid fully yet but I need to

[rotund oak]

german dude yappin'

game stuff

[balmy condor]

ofc

[balmy condor]

sahe....lan...gesundheit bro feel better

[pliant remnant]

Assassination rogue

[warm vortex]

Yes

[royal lantern]

brudi

nein

[broken lion]

is this for aoe?

[balmy condor]

that's for the bug

[broken lion]

I mean is the bug reliant on it being aoe?

cant find anything about it besides what u said

[balmy condor]

No, it has nothing to do with what you’re hitting, it’s the coin state

There’s been plenty of convo about it and there’s an hour long video from nutwzrd

One week left until it’s deleted though so

If you’re just trying to figure it out now, probably too late

[broken lion]

ig ill try search the channel a bit, I was away for xmas but idm it only being 1 week b4 its gone, its fun to try it anyway

[broken lion]

would you be able to link it?

[pliant silo]

video bad, just too much misinformation after further testing so I privated it
all relevant information posted below

more recent findings since video

aw fuck

my comment on my own video was removed

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[pliant silo]

I macro cb with dm and with kb both (makes a few of the sequences easier)
standard rupture + envenom opener leaves you with either 3x or 1x coin state
2x, 4x, 5x coin states occur mid-pull on later cd timings
1-4 coin starts = bug guaranteed, 5 is crit rng, anything above 5 no bug
sequences below

"run" means you have to move the distance shown in the image (below) to buy 1 extra global leeway.
always run after reaching 7 and generating the first lucky coin.
optional mutilates for extra combo points are in [brackets] - not necessary if you crit.

the below "xcoin" sequences are just.. what you do if you are starting with "x" heads or "x" tails

1coin:
shiv cbdm kb (5-4)
vanish envenom (7-6)
run + mutilate
[mutilate] envenom (8-7, bug)

2coin (move the vanish):
shiv cbdm kb (6-4)
envenom (7-5)
run + mutilate
[mutilate] vanish envenom (9-7, bug)

3coin (vanish envenom before kb):
shiv cbdm (5-2)
vanish envenom (7-4)
run + kb (9-6)
[mutilate] envenom (10-7, bug)

4coin (envenom before vanish kb):
shiv cbdm (6-2)
envenom (7-3)
run + kb (9-5)
[mutilate] vanish envenom (11-7, bug)

5coin (pray for insane coin crits sealfate/dealfate):

• prebuild combo points for envenom
  shiv cbdm (7-2)
  run + vanish envenom (9-4)
  kb envenom (12-7, bug)

In summary: after getting a "coin type" to 7, you have 3 globals to get your second "coin type" to 7 - if you move as shown in the image. 2 globals if no movement.
There are many variations that work because you can control your coinflip "pace" by moving vanish and kb around, the above examples work every time for me. It is somewhat specific, adjusting the position of your vanish or kingsbane in any written sequence may cause it to not work.

All envenoms must be 5+ combo to flip a coin ofc
vanish envenom flips 2 coins which can each crit for +1 combo
kingsbane is 1 combo, 2 if crit, +2 coins which can crit for a range of 1-4 combos total from kb

can stay perma melee uptime, this is far enough distance from the lucky coin to get +1 global

even on the smaller MFO bosses

always run after getting a cointype to 7, even if you have no idea what you're doing or cba adjusting your cd sequence it improves your odds by making the bug less crit reliant + allowing you to trigger the bug from a wider variety of starting conditions

run away from ur lucky coin

[pliant silo]

.

oh, forgot to mention - meld works in place of a vanish.
so you vanish the 0:00 cooldowns, meld the 1:00 cooldowns, vanish the 2:00, etc.
nelf just perma bugs. non nelf has to pray for a coinflip, since they can only get 6 edge cases at the 1:00 cd set (no vanish, no meld).
you start at 1, standard cd sequence to 7-6 (with 6 edge cases) and then pray for the next coinflip to land you at 7 of the secondary coin face. If you land on the "8" result gg

basically nelf hard bis unless I missed something (totally possible)
also crit maybe undervalued slightly in sims (not sure) - since you can technically get only 4 combo points from 2x mutilate with bad luck

[normal mist]

I was watching Pookies new video and the rant about AI

youtube: Here you go, 2/3 adds about AI

https://tenor.com/view/hulk-tacos-gif-20441534

[static glacier]

tbh I did discuss it with whispyr a few days back too

it's tragic how it affects things, and most people don't have the attention span to question its outputs

[limpid quest]

.

[heavy sentinel]

so we dont run KB in aoe anymore?

feels weird

[haughty flicker]

well then i have good news for you

because once prepatch hits with the midnight changes you'll be back to taking kingsbane 100% of the time

[heavy sentinel]

sick

i just came back havent played since season 1

[pure moth]

damn missed out on bug abuse for a long time then.

[rotund oak]

and then KB gets nerfed and you are back a month later dooming rogue is deadge

same old routine

[royal lantern]

what

KB is literally made to be a central part of assa now

multiple talents are based on KB now

[rotund oak]

not the first nor the last

like u never played assa again

[balmy condor]

Idk how you would ever drop kingsbane

Even if the last apex talent was really bad for some reason (it’s pretty good), kingsbane is probably just numerically the strongest talent on the tree to begin with

[thorn thorn]

@severe meadow Tune in lil bro

They are at it again

[humble verge]

[thorn thorn]

show parse

[humble verge]

we are 8/8 gamers doing gallywix for 100k

[slim copper]

I heard we got a new video. 👀👀👀

I would die for Oreo

[wary light]

Are people buying it for that much still? 👀

[humble verge]

i mean i got 91k but

people are still buying it for like

900k now or so apparently

mostly cause iranis having internet issues

[severe meadow]

What we tuning

[thorn thorn]

The paladins are at it again

I would show you, but they banned me for stating my opinion

[severe meadow]

Are they closing the discord again

[thorn thorn]

nah they just sold out

[severe meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/fake-smile-cat-gif-5516759774782239920

[red schooner]

Are they now sponsored by mountain dew?

[thorn thorn]

Nah they are effectively monetized now

Will have pings occasionally about advertisements

[red schooner]

....no fucking shot

[thorn thorn]

You can mute them, but its amusing its happening at all

Ya its also a donation for a charity we dont know for yet

And also you can win stuff

And a survey too...

[severe meadow]

What are we winning

[thorn thorn]

no idea

[thorn thorn]

Check the discord bro

Its not an exaggeration