this is all @shrewd night 's fault tbh
#assassination
raw gale
midnight scroll
also you might wanna macro cold blood to kingsbane
balmy condor
it's always koffings fault
digital venture
also you might wanna macro cold blood to kingsbane
I do, need to spam harder xD
shrewd night
this is all <@162298395090747393> 's fault tbh
@raw gale you have a squareheaded raider 
storm forum
damn you koffing, disabling my pokemon abilities!
raw gale
<@293527458509094912> you have a squareheaded raider <:pepePoint:830287947026399...
you think i dont know, i have to raid with him
bronze pike
@balmy condor prepatch sims when?
raw gale
also gz on kill 
shrewd night
you think i dont know, i have to raid with him
storm forum
@balmy condor alpha dooming video when?
bronze pike
<:CHAD:980880054848462868>
when are you going to evolve to weezing?
midnight scroll
alpha tier list that's totally not gonna be useless in a month and a half when?
shrewd night
When ulria has his schoolgirl stream
balmy condor
<@167090536602140682> prepatch sims when?
currently updating APL to remove all pooling cause the energy is so fucking high, that way I can add all the pooling back in after they nerf energy
raw gale
I thought it was supposed to be a slutty nurse
bronze pike
When ulria has his schoolgirl stream
damn so your going to be ftier pokemon forever
raw gale
I can't keep up with my outfits anymore man
shrewd night
I thought it was supposed to be a slutty nurse
I meeeeean...
bronze pike
currently updating APL to remove all pooling cause the energy is so fucking high...
real
low raptor
Why does Sim use netherprism with every DM (not counting the opener) while we usually use it every other DM after the opener? Is it worth using it like Sim does, or is it a stupid idea and a huge loss of DPS?
analog field
Like 0.6 worse to use it every DM
buoyant herald
I think the “use with vanish every 3m” optimisation is quite small
analog field
It is just that they haven't gotten to change the apl
jaunty sky
it doesnt make a difference in sim but it does make a difference in actual fights
having 18 stacks for amp and execute and whatever
buoyant herald
Ideally you want to save the 18 stack for your DM in execute yeah, you’re probably fine to use with every other DM before you need to start saving it up for that
analog hornet
Netherprism works with other Trinkets? Isnt there an delay for 20 sec? 🤔 So i dont macro the lilly on DM, because the prism cant do his Job in this Phase? 🤔
waxen oyster
you dont play double on use as assa
balmy condor
all on-use trinkets have a shared 20 second cooldown
runic hinge
Might be too hardcore for him
waxen oyster
ask chatgpt for a response
ancient ingot
guys what should i correct with my stats in keys? i have 10335 crit, 6059 haste, 22673 mastery and 14800 verse
humble verge
how are u 3k and "new" to the game
waxen oyster
this is you rn
normal mist
guys what should i correct with my stats in keys? i have 10335 crit, 6059 haste,...
Your game/spec knowledge
thorn thorn
Your game/spec knowledge
Cant believe green names are giving bad advice smh
The correct answer is CLEARLY to just use randomized gear
buoyant herald
That’s unironically pretty much true
lyric horizon
Antenna+Prism or prism+araz? Have everything myth
balmy condor
Antenna+Prism or prism+araz? Have everything myth
You can throw the araz away unless you’re trying to do like a 2 min heroic clear
storm forum
or ur a psycho and ur fishing for double CDR bugs
formal pawn
however i sim it keeps saying i need to go towards more haste, But if i check other rogues then from wcl they all ignore the shit out of haste al go full crit / mastery, whats the reason for this?
main bridge
you aren't wearing the same gear as them
the whole point of sims is that they tell you what is best for the gear you are wearing
formal pawn
But they easilly can swap stats from the crafted pieces, even those are full crit mstery.
formal pawn
think i checked +10 rogues and not 1 has more then 10% haste, yet i'm on 12% and it keeps telling me to pump towards haste
buoyant herald
He’s only gone and done it
shy creek
marsh fjord
You know everyday i scroll trough this discord
And fucking everday i see uber posing a details screenshot of his damage what the hell man
Or he has the most huge cock ever or the smallest weener
@humble verge which one is it
next bough
Does anyone know if there is still a bug with shroud and bm hunters by chance? Thanks!
marsh fjord
Does anyone know if there is still a bug with shroud and bm hunters by chance? T...
That they get in combat?
next bough
I guess so, trying to shroud pre pull on nexus king and dont want to bug the hunters
marsh fjord
Last time it happend to me was in a priory and that was 2 weeks ago.
if still around no idea but i don't think they fixed that
little tulip
hey i have a shadowstep macro and it breaks on eco dome last when the phase changes on last boss any idea why?
/cleartarget
/cast [@mouseover] shadowstep
/targetlasttarget
is it just the /targetlasttarget line
timid widget
in keys our ST on bosses in the bleed build is just non existent right or am i just garbage?
past bobcat
You can throw the araz away unless you’re trying to do like a 2 min heroic clear
what does bis profile sim antenna at
10% miss??
balmy condor
Default is 0% I’m pretty sure unless otherwise changed
Depends who’s simming
But antenna is bis until like 25%
past bobcat
ive been simming it at 25% and pacemaker is premuch even with it
waxen oyster
in keys our ST on bosses in the bleed build is just non existent right or am i j...
above tank but dont expect great numbers
unique flame
in keys our ST on bosses in the bleed build is just non existent right or am i j...
its garbage
not you
buoyant herald
in pure ST you'll literally lose to a prot war
unless you get good execute value
not sure any other spec has as bad boss damage in key build other than maybe outlaw lol
waxen oyster
how often do you have pure st
buoyant herald
not often
waxen oyster
yeah this is why i've always found it a non issue
buoyant herald
it's not as big an issue as it's made out to be
waxen oyster
also tbf its only good prot wars
you may lose to
i.e ones that actually gcd cap and weave in executes
frozen iris
On saladbar why does liquid go all the way over to square?
frozen iris
for mythic
waxen oyster
buoyant herald
on purpose? 😛
waxen oyster
my meter
bro
i just pull when i got dam cds
if healer complains i just pull more
buoyant herald
actually good strat
pull more
more healing
less time to complain
everyone wins
waxen oyster
i mean if healer has time to complain in chat
you aint pressing buttons
all im saying
buoyant herald
exactly
jaunty sky
I love pug tanks pulling single pack and 'chaining' it by exactly not dropping combat
humble verge
<@191982482642436097> which one is it
i have no penur
im just pointing out the sad keys i end up carrying
earnest remnant
On saladbar why does liquid go all the way over to square?
On pull after the dmg ticks?
errant heath
Does wound poison work on salad bar?
earnest remnant
no
frozen iris
On pull after the dmg ticks?
Sorry wrong marker. Why do we run all the way from square to moon
earnest remnant
markers are where the dragons spawns for the lasers that travel so you wanna be ontop of one to bait them to create a safe spot to soak
and the reason you move sorta far is because of the beheads to give them more room to spread out and not cleave eachother
thorn thorn
i mean if healer has time to complain in chat
Pug healers would rather flame a bad pull than make any amount of effort greater than 0 to salvage it
coral ibex
marsh fjord
<a:wahhhhh:943389433581940746>
close
past bobcat
is there anyway to see in logs missed antenna orbs?
fallow canopy
you could technically compare the uptime of the 2 separate buffs but its still innacurate it just gives you like a rough idea I think
waxen oyster
<a:wahhhhh:943389433581940746>
why are you on an alt rogue
coral ibex
im not
waxen oyster
is politechat not an alt
waxen oyster
hmm
coral ibex
whats up
haughty flicker
<a:wahhhhh:943389433581940746>
waxen oyster
idk why i thought you were playing your alt on it
desert vault
can you cloak off the stacks on salad like before the triple ghosts?
earnest remnant
no
only thing you can do reduce the stacks faster is take 1 soak with feint then soak the next slam with cloak
haughty flicker
you can cloak to soak with the solo tank if you absolutely have to but uh
earnest remnant
taking of 2 stacks in one combo
desert vault
i was just trying to think if you can survive the triple ghost thing, like if you get messed up
earnest remnant
nope
only thing you can do survive fucking that up
is when you get mc'd to have a druid cyclone you
thats about it
desert vault
so this fight, grrr Salad, so the full group soak puts a stack of something on you and you have to remove it with the ghost? i keep getting mc'd and feel like i am doing everything right driving me nuts
balmy condor
you start with 3 stacks
each soak you do removes a stack
you get a ghost for each stack removed
if you miss the ghost, the stack comes back
desert vault
ok, and if you have 3 stacks for too long you get mc'd?
balmy condor
if you have any stacks at the end of phase 1, you get mc'd
desert vault
what causes you to get mc'd before that?
wise plover
dying
desert vault
oh so if you take leathal damage you don't die instantly you get mc then die?
wise plover
yep
desert vault
god i hate this fight
cunning needle
god i hate this fight
where are you dying/getting mc'd?
coral ibex
you should be soaking 1 circle per set and looking at every ghost that spawns
1 then 2 then 3 ghosts
desert vault
yeah just dying, either too low going into the second soak sometimes, oath breaker or whatever i see is killing me a lot think that is just the ticking damage all p1 right?
just swapped to elusivness and going to macro feint to every ability lol
cunning needle
yeah just dying, either too low going into the second soak sometimes, oath break...
if you get the dot on you press evasion
but tbh also
healers just heal
dont be afraid to send health pot in p1
thats kinda the only phase where you die to not one shot stuff
taking elusivness is good though
cheat death only will really save you in the last phase (maybe)
desert vault
which dot for evasion?
coral ibex
the one you can get instead of blaze line
desert vault
oh yeah whatever it is called, i've gotten it a few times yeah
coral ibex
i held cloak for if i ever got the dot and then it was a quick soak
so i wouldnt have the dot for the soak
cunning needle
im a monkey so i cloak on the first soak if it's the quick soak
since its always really scuffed
haughty flicker
the gigachad move is to cloak the damage at the start of the fight so you look better on damage taken
fallow canopy
maybe it dies next week
marsh fjord
The thing is i think nexus king doesnt get better with uncapped/turbo boost
some bosses you can just raw stop with 10 extra item levels if you dont do the stacks you get mcd and ripped
golden roost
Once you get past phase 1, the boost no doubt helps the platforms and the burn
marsh fjord
Oh it def helps but i feel like nexus king you cant just raw dog
where it gets WAY easier
balmy condor
We’re currently experiencing the same on dimmy
marsh fjord
I think on dimmy you even gotta hold in p1 no?
golden loom
Oh it def helps but i feel like nexus king you cant just raw dog
yeah turboboost was kinda nice of course but them nuking the damage of the group soak made the fight 100 times easier
oathbreaker + conquer nerf big W
balmy condor
I think on dimmy you even gotta hold in p1 no?
We’re pushing right on time for 1:30’s to be up on first platform, then pushing around gateway on platform 1, then pushing on second wind on platform 2 so CDs are up for the start of p3
Giga cooked
I get 1 prism cast in like 5:45
haughty flicker
golden loom
I get 1 prism cast in like 5:45
but imagine if u ran double on-use, might be the most cursed situation of all time!
balmy condor
Yeah if I ran double on use I could hold dps even harder
marsh fjord
Wouldnt lily actually be giga good then?
has been the alternative
if you couldnt use prism
balmy condor
No because if I Lily I also get 1 cast in 5:45
marsh fjord
Are you holding DM?
balmy condor
Yeh
marsh fjord
ahh
balmy condor
Well I guess I get 2 casts of Lily
Cause p1
But then I just have to hold dps at the end of p1
So
coral ibex
wait you aren't holding p1?
balmy condor
We kinda are kinda not
coral ibex
you're pushing before adds?
balmy condor
It’s right on the cusp
haughty flicker
holding dps is a crime against god
coral ibex
its so miserable
balmy condor
If we full send we’re 10 seconds early to first plat
haughty flicker
brings out my inner pilav
coral ibex
and i have like 12 stacks
haughty flicker
fr
coral ibex
(dont tell them that im sending 18 stacks on artoshion)
golden loom
so what is the dps holding actually for? 2nd platform?
or what happens if everyone just perma sends
coral ibex
its so that you have 3's up for p1
and then you want artoshion and pargoth to last as long as possible
so you have 3's again for the amp
haughty flicker
balmy condor
so what is the dps holding actually for? 2nd platform?
Healer CDs, CDs for p3
golden loom
is shaman the only 3 min class
coral ibex
every 1:30 is also a 3 in this case
golden loom
oh true
balmy condor
golden loom
Healer CDs, CDs for p3
I fucking hate healer cds no CAP
same shit on mugzee
"lets hold dps so WE CAN HAVE HEALER CDS"
fuck off man just press your dumb little heal
anyways glad im playing warrior on dimmy, no holding here zugzug my cds have cdr and also dont do much 
balmy condor
We had our dev player go Aug cause it’s better
But then turbo happened and the timers are fucked
So now they’re on omega tilt
Cause Aug is spreadsheet spec
haughty flicker
ye thats giga cursed
waxen oyster
thats like sub in amir
then they nerf fyrak
so i gotta redo cds
for that entire fight
golden loom
hey atleast theres a 3% dmg buff next week, surely it doesnt fuck up things even more!!
haughty flicker
im glad to have a fight thats like perfectly designed for my specs but by the time i get to it the timers are so fucked i just play with my dick mid pull instead
cunning needle
i still reckon its better to just not pick up the orbs
instead of full sending/holding
timers are so wack now
balmy condor
hey atleast theres a 3% dmg buff next week, surely it doesnt fuck up things even...
Hold 3% earlier
silent drift
Haven't touched fatebound at all, nor sin really this season, bout to give it a try, is it chill?
I actually liked the deathstalker tree ngl, big envenom
balmy condor
Fatebound is the tap water of hero talents
It has little to no rotational impact, realistically only does something every 1:30
If you can play deathstalker, you just add vanish into your cd sequence, never finish on 7, and you’re playing fatebound
balmy condor
Well yeah, the only reason to finish on 7 would be darkest night
That obviously doesn’t exist for fatebound
silent drift
aight, which trinkets favor sin atm? i have all the major ones except antenna sadly
tawdry halo
Prism antenna
silent drift
nice, no antenna xd, double on-use gas on sin?
tawdry halo
It’s uhhh
Not ideal
But if you don’t have a passive myth (pacemaker, sacbrood, etc) then it’s probably fine
silent drift
why not, doesn't the spec turn into a 90sec spec ?
balmy condor
We do damage outside of our cooldowns
As weird as that sounds
Double on use is purely subtlety brainrot
silent drift
yeah, i have sub brain this season, my b
now, to make a gearset without fully recrafting shit since i play sub in m+
high vers sin incomin 💀
tawdry halo
That’s fine
No bad stats for assa
You’ll be a couple of % below optimal optimal stats but like
Flipping big or not probably more variance so who cares
silent drift
fair, i love rng
balmy condor
Plenty of people do
silent drift
the little mini game
tawdry halo
Oh that was fun
silent drift
fr
balmy condor
All in the name of dumbing specs down
silent drift
nice, from 5 buttons in st to 4!
haughty flicker
im gonna be honest
balmy condor
Wait I forgot vanish, 8 to 7
silent drift
mannnnnnnnnnnn
haughty flicker
er/sepsis/snd etc were not great buttons
but at least i felt something
i felt alive when i was doing stuff in opener
silent drift
i hate snd
haughty flicker
now i press 3 buttons and go back to envenom
silent drift
interanl bleeding or swap to casutic
haughty flicker
otherwise fatebound
caustic
always caustic if you even sniff the fart of an add
as either hero talent
balmy condor
Tbh with current gear and rep
You just play fb everywhere
What’s the point of ds anymore
haughty flicker
fatebound keys pog
silent drift
man, i miss during prog when i hit a big envenom and i'd interupt raidlead with "ya'll see that big envenom"
balmy condor
And you didn’t get gkicked?
balmy condor
If our boomkin did that on starsurge crits we’d server mute his ass
And he hit a 110mil crit the other day
balmy condor
They crit 3 starsurges and then afk is the issue
haughty flicker
channeled your inner grognak there for a secon
silent drift
yeah, lost my cool
weary stump
lads, my group finally downed mythic araz 
cunning needle
lads, my group finally downed mythic araz <:glorpingspree:1419404590394380438>
Gzgzgz
haughty flicker
balmy condor
@cunning needle @coral ibex @tawdry halo https://apnews.com/article/christmas-island-red-crab-migration-c8b9fbca06fbb269b26ac57e50153b3a
????
coral ibex
balmy condor
Every headline from Australia is a fever dream
cunning needle
Every headline from Australia is a fever dream
have you heard about neil the seal??
haughty flicker
https://pulsetasmania.com.au/news/neil-the-seal-spotted-lounging-in-the-middle-o...
i want nothing more than to live in a world filled with headlines like these
silent drift
Wait, holy does fatebound want crit
polar rampart
ye
jolly stirrup
What damage at Araz fight, thats being shown in Details isn't being counted in Logs?
cunning needle
adds in the last bit im pretty sure
jolly stirrup
Because according to details, I had 8.49 mil dps, but logs only had 7.1 or smth
I feel robbed
cunning needle
unluggy
buoyant herald
Pad less I guess 
jolly stirrup
oak tangle
<@166073317193678848> <@137430413919387648> <@252715397243994112> https://apnews...
i mean although this is technically australia, it's at least a seperate island
oak tangle
I feel robbed
i was being robbed of dps on saladaar cause the guy doing logs was the other platform, so i had to upload my own logs, i went from 85 to 97 %ile
half dawn
Can anyone take a look at my log from Fract to see what im doing wrong rotation wise.
I think the damage is super low, and idk I dont recall misplaying rotation on this boss.
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/7xRvg83N6QDkFnK4?fight=last&type=damage-done&source=7
NM since I'm doing 4x bosses for quest but this was more of an exercise to get rotation feedback on a target dummy fight
tawdry halo
<@166073317193678848> <@137430413919387648> <@252715397243994112> https://apnews...
I want you to understand that this is almost certainly nowhere close to any of us in this discord.
But also, protect the crabs
🦀
golden loom
Can anyone take a look at my log from Fract to see what im doing wrong rotation ...
well firstly you got the tier set bug, here you need to hold KB, when the tier set bug happens you play around coldblood cd
3:56 normal mode kill seems crazy btw wtf
golden loom
like this is 2 months ago, how is 3:56 even possible 
tawdry halo
Yeah that kill timing is pretty rubbish
oak tangle
like this is 2 months ago, how is 3:56 even possible <:kekw:1217165081251414168>
cause normal is shitty geared alts that people dont know how to play
not mains trying to get tier
coral ibex
Every headline from Australia is a fever dream
wait do you think im australian
oak tangle
it's a compliment im sure
balmy condor
wait do you think im australian
I just thought you’d appreciate the crabs
The other ones are aussie
balmy condor
tawdry halo
Can anyone take a look at my log from Fract to see what im doing wrong rotation ...
Honestly with your trinkets and that boss timing it seems fine
dense cedar
Can anyone take a look at my log from Fract to see what im doing wrong rotation ...
where r ur other poisons
balmy condor
where r ur other poisons
Uhoh
dense cedar
no
jolly stirrup
i was being robbed of dps on saladaar cause the guy doing logs was the other pla...
Can I upload now even after multiple hours?
hearty seal
Wait, holy does fatebound want crit
also it's nice as fuck to just get to 5 CP instantly with just one Muti
tawdry halo
oak tangle
Can I upload now even after multiple hours?
i don't think that'll be the problem on araz
but sure
jolly stirrup
How?
oak tangle
How? <:garf_sit:1334889429449314456>
warcraftlogs uploader
tawdry halo
its like the thing i check first with logs now
I cannot believe this is common enough to be a first check
golden loom
yeah wait where is amp / crippling
dense cedar
I cannot believe this is common enough to be a first check
usually its just crippling because no one reads what the talents actually do
amp missing is nuts tho
quiet oar
The other ones are aussie
AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE OI OI OI
golden loom
usually its just crippling because no one reads what the talents actually do
to be fair kush did all of their fract prog without crippling on
oak tangle
AUSSIE
golden loom
⏰ CRIPPLING POSION CHECK ⏰ was typed quite a lot in his chat
cunning needle
dense cedar
at least pepegaroach can take this as a lesson in checking ur poisons more vigilantly
golden loom
I just spam my F keys between wipes to never run into the problem personally
red schooner
My entire knowledge of Australia is limited to this song and garn. Videos. Image checks out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qA8gJoT5yl4
golden loom
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Ns15eHLDv1I the only aussie content you need
oak tangle
TWENTY TO 8 IN THE FUCKIN MOOOORNIN
cunning needle
good ol bazza
oak tangle
jolly stirrup
I just spam my F keys between wipes to never run into the problem personally
I wrote a Makro so I can just press one button to apply the poisons one by one
keen spruce
ancient ingot
Guys can I ask, on myth plexus on 1 my cd I have logs 50, on second cd 80, but all what I change its use council on my weapon, well my question is should I up my crit for st in my gear?
I saw ppls they have like 20k crit and 1k haste is it good ?
grim jay
Is that bait or a genuine question?
Thats like 3 points that have nothing to do with eachother
prisma carbon
Sim yourself and do what the robot says
grim jay
The difference in CD length is a bug on fb for forever now
The enchant has nothing to do with that and is determined by your sim
How much crit you want is determined by the sim aswell
There are no magical stat amounts
ancient ingot
We don’t have cap any stat on rogue?
I’m just playing 2 month, trying learn everything
grim jay
No, as a matter of fact you dont have caps anywhere except for shatter on frostmage maybe
But that has to do with the mechanic and not the stat
half dawn
yeah wait where is amp / crippling <:kekw:1217165081251414168>
lmao i forgot poisons after going bleed build for hunters
ancient ingot
I mean if u rly should focus on crit for raid, i need focus on take some gear, now I don’t have a lot and mostly playing keys when I prefer bit more haste
flint star
!bugs
nova kelp
I just wear my raid gear when I use bleed. If it's good enough for a 17 idc
prisma carbon
Fatebound generally likes crit more than deathstalker but yeah sim yourself
nova kelp
Like the extra haste isn't going to make me. I ain't giga pushing
ancient ingot
I ask saw some players they literally have 1000 haste with fatebound that’s fine if we spam envemom?
nova kelp
Sure probably. I have more than that in raid but idk. I don't really think that hard about stats
FB likes some crit. I have some crit
Everything is good
Sin just be kinda easy going on stats
ancient ingot
Sometimes I have window when I afk like 3-5 second because don’t have energy on spam is it okay ?
prisma carbon
That is sin rogue
Even if you stack haste, there will be downtime
ancient ingot
I worry not about energy, I’m feel like I’m afk ahahha
nova kelp
You WILL have small periods of downtime. Sin isn't a hammer every GCD spec. And it likely never will be.
sharp viper
@balmy condor
balmy condor
<@167090536602140682>
nova kelp
Just Sim yourself as you go and trust the clanker to put the right gear on you
jolly stirrup
lmao i forgot poisons after going bleed build for hunters
I feel that
nova kelp
DW about the stats. Getting that extra haste won't change your button throughput
Get haste coz clanker say get haste
We be vibin like that
Bing chilling
jolly stirrup
<@167090536602140682>
@balmy condor I swear whenever I have one of these wt work, I think of you
You made it into my head
Congrats
ancient ingot
I just want found the way with take gear for raid, ig I just should focus on bis
dense cedar
<@167090536602140682> I swear whenever I have one of these wt work, I think of y...
u got no zucker
balmy condor
<@167090536602140682> I swear whenever I have one of these wt work, I think of y...
You think of me? 
jolly stirrup
Always 
sharp viper
You made it into my head
Soon he'll be in your pants too 
jolly stirrup
u got no zucker
You are sweet enough 
dense cedar
drifting cloud
@blazing jewel
keen spruce
drifting cloud
sharp viper
@keen spruce 
oak tangle
lol
keen spruce
quiet oar
Amateur Shmeeps Painter
red schooner
<@119274470241206273> <a:Pedro:1235907106809581589>
static glacier
wholesome morning animal pictures 
jolly stirrup
humble verge
sharp viper
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cyan mist
what is the lowest energy benchmark to stop spamming and wait for energy to recharge to avoid consuming a charge of Thistle TEa
buoyant herald
you don't play around tea
cyan mist
wdym ? i was under the assumption that you play around tea in ST to be able to spam enough envenom during Deathmark/Kingsbane
buoyant herald
not anymore
not for like 2 seasons, maybe all xpac
i think we did in s1 but then the sims showed it didn't matter at all
so we stopped bothering
cyan mist
oh i didn't know thank you for the quick reply Spark so you forget about thistle tea regardless of Energy and just keep spamming envenom and send Deathmark on cd ?
what about being starved for energy since that is still a thing ? do i just recharge to 100 and go ?
or do i totally forget about it ?
west crown
what about being starved for energy since that is still a thing ? do i just rech...
You aren’t starved in Deathmark ever
buoyant herald
you just macro tea with shiv for the mastery boost, and if it auto procs outside of that then you get the energy
!macro
prisma monolithBOT
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.
#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane
Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket
buoyant herald
you don't really play around energy at all, there's a small optimisation where you pool a wee bit about 5 seconds before you KB
i think
hot pasture
<@167090536602140682> I swear whenever I have one of these wt work, I think of y...
this is bis for assa
buoyant herald
this will change in Midnight
but for now you swim in energy in aoe and inside deathmark, and you run out outside of that 
cyan mist
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spammin...
thank you i'm using exactly these macros the issue , this is my issue tho
west crown
thank you i'm using exactly these macros the issue , this is my issue tho
It’s not an issue. Let it happen
cyan mist
so basically i consume 2 charges during both shiv windows under Deathmark but the third one is just there
cyan mist
ok that was my worry
buoyant herald
energy is good
west crown
Get to about 100 and send
Just need enough for envenom uptime because that’s all that matters
cyan mist
and do i even send kingsbane alone due to Fatebound CDR or always wait for DM + Kingsbane since DM is affected by the CDR as well ?
cyan mist
perfect so Tl;DR :
Forget about Thistle Tea management
Pool a bit before KB reset (maximize envenom windows under KB)
DM+KB >KB>DM+KB
thanks a lot guys
real pike
You aren’t starved in Deathmark ever
I've auto procced tea inside DM a few times, it can happen if you're really unlucky with muti CPs and blindsides
real pike
Just need enough for envenom uptime because that’s all that matters
Wait this I was not aware of, so it's not really materially more damage to be spamming on GCD for all of KB? I should only care about keeping env up during?
buoyant herald
you just want to stack KB up ASAP
which usually means you'll want 2 envenom buffs up when you hit it
real pike
I've been pooling to 280 so I can hit abilities on GCD inside kingsbane hahahah
buoyant herald
so you don't want to be unable to make that happen
once it's max stacked then nothing else you do increases its damage
and it stacks up pretty fast
real pike
Gawddamn
I haven't been making sure to have double env up when I hit KB tho, only one stack
So I should have double envenom buff active before I hit kb?
real pike
Ah ok I have been doing that
buoyant herald
checking some logs, it's taking me 4s to hit 50 stacks during DM
and 5.5 outside of DM
oh that during lust
lil bit longer outside of lust
buoyant herald
well 2 stacks will stack it fractionally faster
but like
point is, once you've got it to 50 nothing else you do will make it do more dam so you don't need to have energy left after that point
so you don't need to pool much
and even then it's something like 0.5% total increase
real pike
Tbh I will probably continue pooling to 280 because I enjoy the feeling of smashing buttons inside cd windows
But at least I now have a proper understanding of how it all works
buoyant herald
and you can relax knowing that whatever you choose to do isn't making or breaking your dps lol
balmy condor
Wait this I was not aware of, so it's not really materially more damage to be sp...
in fact, the only thing that really matters is that you envenom before kb, and then envenom once after kb
any additional after that is functionally just a regular envenom and holds little to no value for your actual kb
oak tangle
all these people that don't understand being energy capped
and or how our abilities work
smh mh
balmy condor
like if full spamming is the red line for stacks
the green line is what you get out of envenom before + the one envenom afterwards
oak tangle
my engineering ass just sees a elastic / plastic deformation graph
buoyant herald
Kinda looks like a snowy mountain top that’s on a lean
balmy condor
or to convolute it even more
getting a stack at the start
when it buffs like a billion ticks
better than getting a stack at the end
balmy condor
when no buff a billion ticks
oak tangle
oak tangle
hahaha
sharp viper
whoever made that graphic should get banned from making graphs
sharp viper
NOW YOU DO
humble verge
me and whispyr after i stop trolling him everytime im here
sharp viper
Necking region
real pike
Label your axes you uncultured swine
balmy condor
should be obvious what the axis are based on their measurement you blind hag
oak tangle
can't assume thing in these highly precise diagrams
sharp viper
whispyr being denounced for improper axis labeling
balmy condor
that's kingsbane stacks you donkey
balmy condor
sharp viper
midnight scroll
timing a key has never been harder now that you gotta do 12s for crests
jolly stirrup
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Done! Thanks for showing me this gem
half igloo
!macro
prisma monolithBOT
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.
#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane
Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket
half igloo
do I ever cb outisde of the KB thingy?
oak tangle
nope
balmy condor
doesn't matter
you can also ambush first gcd if you want
I just have to put some sequence into the guide
but aside from the shiv-dm-kb, it's actually giga whatever
half igloo
just checking to see if it's one of those "I need to write a mutilate in stealth macro" situations
balmy condor
super not strict
half igloo
you can also ambush first gcd if you want
you mean like the very first global of the fight?
balmy condor
ye
half igloo
oh cool, doesn't fuck with my deathstalker muscle memory from the last 2 ssns
balmy condor
the sequence is:
- do whatever and get rupture/gar up
- get envenom up
- vanish somewhere in here -> shiv -> all the buffs -> dm -> kb
-> shiv when the first drops
and then gg fatebound successfully played
hardest part about the rotation is not falling asleep
half igloo
haha interesting, a bit of a difference from the sub I've been playing this ssn
balmy condor
ye
half igloo
do I ever send shivs outside of cds?
balmy condor
No
half igloo
haha okay that's nuts
balmy condor
I’m telling you
It’s 4-5 GCD sequence for deathmark
And then remembering where your envenom keybind is
That’s the entire spec
half igloo
so guessing this has been a "I miss deathmark" kinda season?
half igloo
oh I only rly get shivs for deathmark not for the "naked" kbs
jolly stirrup
hardest part about the rotation is not falling asleep
Real, the opener/raid rotation is like meditation for me
half igloo
huh I don't even have to track any of the coins do I lmfao
jolly stirrup
huh I don't even have to track any of the coins do I lmfao
Nope
half igloo
do I wanna use the 2nd DM shiv during the last 8 seconds of the KB or do I just send the 2nd shiv within the DM window?
golden loom
you only track it for personal dopamine
golden loom
do I wanna use the 2nd DM shiv during the last 8 seconds of the KB or do I just ...
back 2 back
half igloo
guessing in the "naked" kb I press it in last 8 sec
golden loom
shiv dm kb -> shiv as the first one runs out
golden loom
guessing in the "naked" kb I press it in last 8 sec
and yes for the solo kb u shiv the end
half igloo
yeah the KB being longer than DM trips me up
is the thistle keybound into shiv macro optimal or is it just a "if ur lazy and don't care for 0.5% macro it" situation?
flint tangle
Love when coins on fatebound drops like if my walled would broke lol
midnight scroll
just to reiterate because i forgot, to "optimally" play netherprism we wanna vanish>shiv>dm>kb?
half igloo
is the thistle keybound into shiv macro optimal or is it just a "if ur lazy and ...
any knowers?
golden loom
is the thistle keybound into shiv macro optimal or is it just a "if ur lazy and ...
optimal
scarlet orbit
just to reiterate because i forgot, to "optimally" play netherprism we wanna van...
If you macro vanish and prism you vanish before dm otherwise it doesnt matter where you vanish
tired bloom
how much of a difference is it really to use prism with first and third DM if macroed to vanish, versus use it every DM but weaker if you macro it to DM
golden loom
how much of a difference is it really to use prism with first and third DM if ma...
like 0.6% or something
half igloo
but then ur also more succeptible to shit kill timers
golden loom
not really?
if you see that boss is gonna die early
you just press ur vanish (its now a trinket bind)
golden loom
I mean foresight is the only thing u need on this spec
but yeah I mean sometimes it is what it is
half igloo
alright I see the light now
I think I still prefer deathstalker cos there's more to think about but I see the appeal of the coinflip
golden loom
I think I still prefer deathstalker cos there's more to think about but I see th...
well the real appeal of fatebound is it being 20% ahead in dam
half igloo
well the real appeal of fatebound is it being 20% ahead in dam <:kekw:1217165081...
haha fair, but I don't rly look at numbers much, I meant the fact ur rotation is simpler which lets u do mechanics and easier/better target swap
analog field
Rotation I would say is practically the same I don't see any difference
jade abyss
We still play deathstalker on soulbinder?
real pike
I think I still prefer deathstalker cos there's more to think about but I see th...
You are a scholar
Deathstalker is the clearly superior gameplay
half igloo
You are a scholar
how it feels to prefer the hero talent that has a chance to just randomly fuck you
then again it's rogue everything is fucking bugged
hearty seal
don't like either ngl
half igloo
I like deathstalker it's just a shame it came out buggy as fuck and even if they fix it somehow it will leave that bad taste in everyone's mouth, the idea is cream imho, same as tricskter-rly good idea with some things randomly being weird, rly only fatebound seems kinda underwhelming
primal oasis
I find it difficult to differentiate fatebound from trickster, I feel like it's the same theme
real pike
DS is way more interesting to play and interactive
primal oasis
Meanwhile deathstalker has like a cool distinctive theme
real pike
hardest part about the rotation is not falling asleep
How someone can say this followed by FB is the superior gameplay
I cannot and will not understand
half igloo
no point discussing tastes : )
real pike
no point discussing tastes : )
Haven't you just been doing exactly this 
half igloo
touche, I meant that more as in "no point going after other people's likes"
real pike
Fair enough, just a bit of fun on my part but I'm not here to offend anyone
half igloo
xoxo
hexed harbor
hearty seal
from the very moment I understood DS to be "combo points back on per target basis, just not called such" I started hating it
hearty seal
like the design is back to "you can't actually target swap, even if you're afforded time to set up dots and whatnot, you still have to move DSM and that's just not a good value proposition at all"
grim jay
I dont have alpha access and didnt watch any stuff on it, but to me it sounded like you can still target swap with garrote, just cant apply new marks if the actual target has some. Thats absolutely fine gameplay
Also even if you cant, I wouldnt care at all
It even introduces some thought process if you need to consume the marks before you can swap, which might be very much needed in the midnight version
spice surge
I dont have alpha access and didnt watch any stuff on it, but to me it sounded l...
It does not work like that, you cant swap if its up on something
scarlet orbit
So for example at a boss like the dh boss in the current raid you still can fuck up because the target still has it?
spice surge
grim jay
It does not work like that, you cant swap if its up on something
Alright, thats kinda whack then, because making it freely swappable would kinda be in line with their "make stuff more approachable" theme rn, but imo its still whatever. Most swaps are rather scripted so you can prepare well enough and for m+ its fine aswell
spice surge
Alright, thats kinda whack then, because making it freely swappable would kinda ...
Ye seems like an easy fix, but then again so is making darkest night affect black powder so the hero talent doesnt feel like ass on sub, and they havent done that yet
royal lantern
Ye seems like an easy fix, but then again so is making darkest night affect blac...
hey, lets be real for a sec there
sub desing goals seem to be "how can we avoid making fixes and instead make overly complicated changes for no reason" for a good while now 
pastel roost
Hello anyone here could help real quick ? i'd like to know where did i fuck up to rank around 51 on loomythar Mythic ? anyone can check log real quick ?
real pike
like the design is back to "you can't actually target swap, even if you're affor...
Oh I gotchu
I don't mind that, I'm a classic enjoyer, back in my day you couldn't even tab off your target iirc
hearty seal
I don't mind that, I'm a classic enjoyer, back in my day you couldn't even tab o...
yeah, before TBC release, you swap targets - you lose combo
TBC made it so that you only lose when you use a builder on a diff target
real pike
yeah, before TBC release, you swap targets - you lose combo
The good old days
somber sparrow
Hello anyone here could help real quick ? i'd like to know where did i fuck up t...
i'm going to guess the .. nothing happening between 2:40 and 2:55, that's a lot of time of doing 0 dps essentially, that's my only guess
so your 2nd deathmark at 1:45, and you didn't do a third DM until 4:00
iron carbon
You don't play sanguine in raid
sharp viper
why/where are you playing sanguine blades in raid?
oak tangle
Hello anyone here could help real quick ? i'd like to know where did i fuck up t...
kill timings, no netherprism, you go into a few no dm kb's withotu envenom, on one of them you ruin any coins stacks by rupturing before using the cold blooded envenoms
you are late on your second shivs
iron carbon
Hello anyone here could help real quick ? i'd like to know where did i fuck up t...
You could also hold DM for execute phase
oak tangle
yeah i was just abotu to check that, cause you send it right before lust
which would be worth more to hold for the amp
radiant yoke
lucky stats?
royal lantern
no 34% critt
ocean shell
Hey, quick question about how Kingsbane works. So there's the hit that is applied when you apply it, and then it stacks every time you proc poison? Is it basically another instance of damage for your lethal poison proc or is it a big hit at the end?
runic hinge
ticks every 2 seconds
ocean shell
So is it safe to think of kingsbane as like a buff to your lethal poison while it's up?
runic hinge
with the lowered cap in TWW you'll usually cap the stacks after like 5 seconds in dm
it ramps up with each poison tick
ocean shell
so it does tick harder, but with how it got changed, we max out pretty quickly from the sound of it?
runic hinge
yes
ocean shell
I dunno man, that isn't how I thought it worked based on the tooltip, but I appreciate the clarification
runic hinge
I hope I helped, if not come back when smarter people are around
oak tangle
kingsbane doesn't buff shit
the damage kingsbane does on each tick, is dependant on how many poisons you've applied
you can have at max 50 stacks of kingsbane damage amp
ocean shell
Is there anything we can do to make it stack faster?
Besides doing the rotation correctly, I mean
strange python
with the lowered cap in TWW you'll usually cap the stacks after like 5 seconds i...
is it any stronger of a button press or did the other changes kinda neutralize any buff
runic hinge
is it any stronger of a button press or did the other changes kinda neutralize a...
it is much weaker than it was in DF, which depending on your point of view can be a good thing
strange python
i kinda always liked when it was strong. Rotation seems to be smoothed out enough to allow it
ocean shell
!mistakes
runic hinge
in DF when it was strong we were KB the spec and every CD sequence was centered around juicing it as much as possible, currently you can fire it and it stacks up quick and you just gotta remember to shiv
strange python
but then again we do press it more currently
strange python
in DF when it was strong we were KB the spec and every CD sequence was centered ...
yea DF felt good.
Like not specifically the rotation, but just knowing KB time was hard hitting felt good
Why I moved to Sub after Dance was lost I guess
runic hinge
Depends on if you cared about your parse being dependent on those last ticks critting
strange python
Yea. didnt care bout parse either
ocean shell
in DF when it was strong we were KB the spec and every CD sequence was centered ...
just to clarify, the shiv is important because it buffs the last few ticks of KB which are the strongest ticks right?
runic hinge
just to clarify, the shiv is important because it buffs the last few ticks of KB...
yes the logic is a bit different this season with the tier sets tho
ocean shell
it's fatebound all the way this tier right?
runic hinge
if you are playing fatebound you want to shiv to cover DM and then on your non-dm kb you want to shiv the last 8 seconds
oak tangle
just to clarify, the shiv is important because it buffs the last few ticks of KB...
this is generally correct, the reason you shiv the end of dm is because kb is already stacked to 50, and you also gain more bleed damage on the double bleeds.
it doesn't have to be the final ticks, as if the kb is already 50 stack, but as a general rule of thumb the conditions will suffice
oak tangle
it's fatebound all the way this tier right?
it's becoming more like that, you can deathstalker for soulbinder and soul hunters
but funnily enough, my best parse on H soulhunters was with fatebound
ocean shell
it's becoming more like that, you can deathstalker for soulbinder and soul hunte...
for multi target fights, just switch to caustic splatter, right?
oak tangle
for multi target fights, just switch to caustic splatter, right?
yeah for sure
pretty much as soon as a single add exists for a single second of a fight, spatter beats internal bleeding
ocean shell
Any other tips for FB sin this tier in general? I feel my envenom casts were lower, any idea what might be causing that?
ocean shell
yea, that's fair. no reclears for a while and I'm planning on finishing the tier as sub. the command's !log right?
oak tangle
nah just link em in here
sub likes their review threads
sin is far more casual
not that you can't get one made, but like this is the off topic channel so log reviews keep us back on topic
oak tangle
yea, that's fair. no reclears for a while and I'm planning on finishing the tier...
i'm happy to look over old logs
fallen wasp
i have a super small question regarding m+; is it better to run fatebound instead of deathstalker if stealth uptime is a problem? or is deathstalker by default always better?
oak tangle
stealth uptime should not be a problem
fatebound kinda does less damage with more targets, and deathstalker has the funnel
the only problem would be if you lose your mark, but you have vanish charges, and even if a tank doesn't let you restealth between packs you with have darkest night to shift mark
so i'm not that sure what you mean by stealth uptime
fallen wasp
no i think you answered my question/hesitations actually
i noticed in pugs i wasnt able to restealth all the time inbetween packs due to chainpulls. but i just have to a) keep track of mark better and b) utilise darkest night always
oak tangle
yeah, ironic cause we're losing addons, but it could be worth having a clear indicator that you have DN proc ready
fallen wasp
i am using vesperaltv's plater profile now and it is already making it a bit easier to follow my dots
so i think its simply down to muscle memory
oak tangle
👍
fallen wasp
tbh i do kinda wish that shadewalker would reduce the cd on vanish instead of shadowstep ;p
but would probably make sin too easy
oak tangle
ha, we'll never get that
fallen wasp
i am also holding vanish too much i think, with 2 charges i can be aggresive. so i'll work on it. ty!
oak tangle
i use vanish, if the tank doesn't let me restealth, or if a pack lasts a long time
and occasionally below 35%
fallen wasp
yeah i shouldnt revanish mid pack, i gotta just manually reapply garrotes and ruptures. and rewire my brain to always open with ambush. after years of mop/classic its hard to get used to that ;p
oak tangle
that's not neccessarily true
if the pack is still healthy
vanish to reapply is fine
in my anecdotal evidence, (albeit i dont go above 12's) packs dont last long enough to warrant another vanish
shy axle
never use garrotte in aoe when it is not buffed, only spread ruptures, keep ct up and splatter
mystic hornet
Is m+ deathstalker bleed build still ass at single target?
shy axle
pure st yes, if you pull adds into the fight its better
oak tangle
my favourite is when shitty adds are pulled onto a boss for funnel, and these dog shit paladins and others press their aoe buttons
mystic hornet
I see. I’ve played plenty of assa on keys but I think I prefer sub. Just feels better not having to worry about stealth and or if the tanks aware of the funnel concept
analog field
Every spec needs funnel in higher keys and if you do lower keys dmg does not matter
fallen wasp
isnt sub like super suspect to messing up the rotation? like 1-2 buttons in your burst/opener incorrectly and you do healer dps?
main bridge
sub is all about using your cooldowns effectively and it doesn't do much outside of them, so naturally if you mess them up it's not going to be good
mystic hornet
I mean yeah but the rotations easy. Push all your cooldowns and then it’s literally two buttons
fallen wasp
are sin bugs fixed btw? i saw the pins but no pin mentioning a fix xd
if not, i might dabble in a bit of sub too
oak tangle
are sin bugs fixed btw? i saw the pins but no pin mentioning a fix xd
it's best to think of bugs as intended. and not get caught up on them
fallen wasp
i guess yeah. damage numbers are still up there
oak tangle
it's a crazy misnomer that people have that their spec will have all bugs fixed and suddenly be over the top damage wise and not get nerfed
the only bug i'll accept caring about, is the tier set cdr one
but you can just be ethical and wait out cold bloods cd
fallen charm
Bugs only fuck those who don't know about them
Like that talent that doesn't work at all (momentum of despair?idk) because of the tier set
hexed frost
Dudes are just copy pasting wow spells with different seasonings
Literally scent and poison bomb lmao
Almost
humble verge
😭 i lost my 99
severe meadow
red schooner
but you can just be ethical and wait out cold bloods cd
I don't even care about the proccing twice thing, I can work around it. It's the rare not proccing one.
weary stump
What are these creature that you post from btw friend
haughty flicker
his mind palace
pliant remnant
bro I love wonderwall!!!
royal lantern
What are these creature that you post from btw friend
we dont question it
just accept it
weary stump
we dont question it
I need the animator to include glorp in the adventures of this being
humble verge
What are these creature that you post from btw friend
marsh fjord
😭 i lost my 99
There he is again 😄
humble verge
There he is again 😄
(am dead)
im glad i got to fix my araz log
before they fixed the p3 adds
eager condor
how bad is mythic Dim as ass? get to start soon
any helpful nuggets of info to pass
coral ibex
its literally bis
royal lantern
how bad is mythic Dim as ass? get to start soon
its one of the best specs avaible for him lol
you do great dmg in all phases
weary stump
Flip yo coin twin
royal lantern
turns out, a fight where you can slam cds on cd and have multiple cd windows with execute dmg boost AND can cleave
is good for assa
weary stump
The purple people eater enjoys letting our coins do many damage
eager condor
you do great dmg in all phases
most excellent
eager condor
got like 5% left on saladbar which i assume should be one person not orb to the facing
I hate sub so I just stab 🙂
buoyant herald
people kinda missed the part WHY sub was played during world first
Well it was obviously always super good but RWF guilds wanted to keep it a secret from us plebs so they’d win right
royal lantern
i mean, sub was great for what they played it for
buoyant herald
Btw why sub bad now, just one of those things I guess 🙃
buoyant herald
(Trolling, do not respond)
Yeah, burst + adds + amp + perfect cd timings are a hell of a boost
royal lantern
like
because sub was bursting adds down
others could play more boss dmg
needing to do something like that was not needed after a couple weeks anymore
buoyant herald
Turns out assass very good at boss damage
normal mist
Turns out assass very good at boss damage
royal lantern
after the bug fix, yes, that was a good boost for assa
and, well
dimmi is also a good fight for it cus you have multiple "execute windows"
analog field
yeah 3% is not that much but also the top specs being nerfed
royal lantern
and assa has the strongest execute in the game rn
(iirc)
so it all kinda adds up
90sec cd window also means you dont need to hold cds really
buoyant herald
Funny how requirements to kill the boss changed from a perfect line up for sub to a perfect lineup for assass
royal lantern
well, killtimers change, and circumstances inside the raid change over time
buoyant herald
Exactly
royal lantern
if you dont need to minmax around add bursting anymore, add bursting becomes less important
buoyant herald
But those kind of nuances get missed by many leading to all the questions asking why assass is on top
fresh kelp
Sub is still very strong on dimensius, I'm not convinced that the slight lead assa has isn't due to tier set bug abusers
now that you aren't holding dps in farm, sub can't send on both artoshion and pargoth platform, assa can if they proc the bug. there are a couple top logs with bug proc allowing them to send on artoshion/pargoth/damage amp despite the time between those events being like 1min15s
royal lantern
But those kind of nuances get missed by many leading to all the questions asking...
1 of the big reasons why sub is almost always the "best" spec, is because mythic raids LOVE having important adds you need to kill very fast, and sub excells at that
royal lantern
Sub is still very strong on dimensius, I'm not convinced that the slight lead as...
that implies you can force the tier bug
lol
AND then it would be that way for all other bosses aswell, or not
onyx crane
lily better for ST and prism for M+?
fresh kelp
well specifically on dimensius it is extremely strong, just saying that a lot of the top logs (assuming we're looking at 90-95th percentile data) are using the bug, willingly or not
royal lantern
will top logs not always be the bug
cus its a dmg up if it happens and you react accordingly
idk, didnt look at logs much this tier
haughty flicker
that implies you can force the tier bug
i mean it happens far more often than it doesnt
ngl
like if you went in planning to use the bug you'd win out more often than not
true gamba hero talent
royal lantern
i mean it happens far more often than it doesnt
THATS a big assumption right there lol
haughty flicker
its not an assumption, its literally based on my own data
thats the exact opposite of an assumption
weary stump
All my homies love coins
haughty flicker
you could say its too small of a sample size which is fine, but absolutely not an assumption
marsh fjord
I agree it happens way more then not.
buoyant herald
I’ve seen comments around this that suggest there is some action you can take that makes it more likely for the bug to proc, is that the case or is it really just pure rng?
haughty flicker
you can apparently delay your globals until the lucky coin actually procs to reduce the chance of it happening, but idk of a way to make it more likely to happen
i also just always play around cb cd and pretend it doesnt happen though so never looked into it
buoyant herald
Ah I thought it might be something to do with some fine timings
haughty flicker
im not saying there isnt some tech, just if there is i dont know it
buoyant herald
I’m not looking to try force it, I’m just curious
buoyant herald
I don’t need to bug abuse to get my 91 parses 😎
marsh fjord
I play better without the bug abuse because its so annoying seeing suddenly having DM up. and KB comes off cooldown in 15 seconds.
and im like
oh what now
buoyant herald
Agree, actually throws me off my rhythm
Sometimes I let the intrusive thoughts win and just slam DM against my better judgement even
marsh fjord
Sometimes I let the intrusive thoughts win and just slam DM against my better ju...
yeah sometimes im like, i will send this DM and double shiv. and dont shiv the KB
ancient ingot
guys what u recommend to take for dinnars? if i cant take myth antenna, i only 2/8m
im thinking about hc boots, but dinnars for hc meh
buoyant herald
730 lily might be better than prism for raid
Might.
But the real answer is hold it until you can get a loomi kill
ancient ingot
But the real answer is hold it until you can get a loomi kill
i dont have guild probably i can waste time xd)
buoyant herald
Lots of pugs do 3/8 these days
Especially with turbo boost out
I stopped raiding with my guild early this season and ended up going 5/8 with a mates guild on a random reclear night
Making friends in this game is important for this kind of thing I find
ancient ingot
maybe i also can take second myth weapon and recraft
buoyant herald
I’m fairly sure that 727 with ascendance is better than 730 in your offhand but you could
Why not just sim the options from keys as well?
humble verge
730 lily might be better than prism for raid
nah, prism will ultimately sim better tbf
even with 0% fail
buoyant herald
I actually took netherprism first because ive lost every single normal and heroic roll
And I want to stop complaining about that 😂
More likely to find antenna in vault or natty grab it anyway
royal lantern
I’ve seen comments around this that suggest there is some action you can take th...
if that was the case
it would be known here
dont you think...?
marsh fjord
dont you think...?
it is known
Its in whispyr his video
Just not explained in the discord
