#assassination

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cinder steppe
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not bad for the first night of dimensius, we got it to 11% on our 20 try, assa pumps on st for sure

thorn thorn
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What he said

static glacier
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that spec does ALL the add damage in p1

balmy condor
severe meadow
balmy condor
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the fact that you're even above half your raid

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is very strange for p1

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especially since you're not hitting execute in most of these pulls I assume if 11% is the best

static glacier
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at best I can be like 3rd on dimmy dam for p1 as sub

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granted I was missing 3% aurabuff but it doesn't matter

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and thats just dimmy, nevermind the add padders

split cipher
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I got forced into sub for prog, does sin caustic well for the adds p1?

static glacier
coral ibex
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not pressing buttons

static glacier
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this is overall dmg for p1 across like 14 p3 wipes or something

coral ibex
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to prog mechs

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thats wild

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a dev being that low is criminal

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they are simply not hitting the masses at all

static glacier
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it's just a measure of how much you can aoe the adds

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even on my very best pull for p1 I was like 5.7m dps at the end of it, almost all boss dmg

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and still can't come close to ele

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this spec somehow dodged nerfs?

coral ibex
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this was before i swapped to assa tho

static glacier
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is it legit to play sin?

coral ibex
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yea its fine now

static glacier
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id love an excuse to leave sub jail

coral ibex
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the fight has been nerfed into dust

static glacier
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true

coral ibex
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unless ur team is missing the burst damage for platforms

static glacier
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nah we are good

coral ibex
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there's really no need for sub

static glacier
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the issue is we have too much dmg

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for them at times

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90s aren't supposed to send anything into 1st platform

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idk, I might just go sin

coral ibex
static glacier
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bro idk

earnest remnant
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p1 crank

static glacier
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my best p1, smaller than stealthi but look at his ilvl jesus

coral ibex
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from last night

static glacier
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sin looking fine, tbf I was expecting it to outright destroy sub in p1

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then again I think ur raidteam doesn't delete the adds giga fast

earnest remnant
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sub can pad more in p1

coral ibex
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yea i just suck at sub

static glacier
earnest remnant
static glacier
coral ibex
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im not playing sub in midnight lol

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100% assa for sure

static glacier
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im down there with uh and tanks, that was my best p1 pull

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leme check others

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ye its the same

coral ibex
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oh yea i do z-dam on masses as assa

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just a rupture

static glacier
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idk we just don't have adds that exist

humble verge
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how are you padding this much on mass

earnest remnant
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time dance with sectech on them

humble verge
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jaha

static glacier
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it's more about them surviving to take 2 coups

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after that

humble verge
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i just play assa anyways

static glacier
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dance alone won't give you good dmg on them

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tbh i might just say f it sin gud on this fight im goin' sin

humble verge
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well

static glacier
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and if they say dmg etc ill say same 90s cds and i barely do dmg outside of platform one and im not supposed to send there anyway

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so who cares if i do less p1 dmg

humble verge
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im topping almost all our pulls when we hit p3 atleast

static glacier
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if i send both plats im usually top 5

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sometimes first sometimes 5th

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rng really

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lowkey yknow what I think it might be

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aug on ele

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actually removes the adds extra fast

earnest remnant
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this is also a good one

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we do push 1 set earlier than people that are holding

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so some dmg is gone

humble verge
earnest remnant
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was a sad kill, missed my pad on platform 1 cuz my cds werent ready cuz we pushed a few sec too soon out of p1

static glacier
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honestly sin looks lit

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might just go for it

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atleast envenom timers give me some dopamine to minmax

coral ibex
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its so easy

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you just hit the boss

static glacier
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sub atm has me chasing the augvoker balls and antenna

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😭

earnest remnant
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tried antenna for 1 pull on earlier bosses this farm

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had it proc 3 times in 2min

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decided

coral ibex
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antenna is cope

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pacemaker is the way

earnest remnant
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not equip it again

static glacier
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honestly

earnest remnant
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and just stick to my 2x on-use

static glacier
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im so done with this tier

coral ibex
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you and my whole guild

static glacier
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dimmy lowkey good boss but fuck this fight design

coral ibex
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nobody wants to be logged in anymore

static glacier
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with timers and holding and dmg amps

coral ibex
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which sucks

static glacier
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can they just fuck off

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for once in their lives

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with this shit

earnest remnant
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we just push

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fck holding

static glacier
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bro i want the answers to always be just push whenever however whyever

coral ibex
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yea but ur on reclear 7 billion and ur avg ilvl is like 724

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its different to just pushing on prog

earnest remnant
earnest remnant
static glacier
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we can push at 2:40ish np

earnest remnant
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of dimmy

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so not really

coral ibex
static glacier
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thats not super quick

coral ibex
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you're just short some prism stacks

earnest remnant
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you wouldnt prism platform 1 i think

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just prism at 1:30 p1. araz platform 1 prism platform 2

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araz on the burn

coral ibex
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i have lily/prism so i lily/lily/prism

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repeat

earnest remnant
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and prism late in p3

static glacier
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infact in this pull we push ever quicker

coral ibex
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im probably just going to play prism on assa tho

coral ibex
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and rip the 3m cranker each time

earnest remnant
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2min classes just needs to hold for platform

coral ibex
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the pad potential on the start of platform 1

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is so big

earnest remnant
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then its pretty ez

static glacier
# earnest remnant

Im certain if you guys want to push faster you can tbf, more ilvls and better players

earnest remnant
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well yeah

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all of our 2min classes are holding for the platform

static glacier
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same

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idk is it ethical to send on 1st plat anyway?

earnest remnant
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yes

static glacier
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also @humble verge how's cd timers for sin? do you advocate accelerated opener?

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and im guessing sin is supposed to win p3?

earnest remnant
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id strongly think assa beats this shit yeh

static glacier
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sub will abuse the amp harder but outside of that it shoulddn't be a competition

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one spec blizz just wants tuned in the gutter 24/7

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the other gets to live after hof closes every tier

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or when blizz want to give the 3% aura buff / bugfix

balmy condor
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no

humble verge
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i get em too

static glacier
# balmy condor no

you say this, sin's recent stint in the upper half is contained to 11.2.5, idk if it's placebo making better players go sin or reclear

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but it's clear there's a link between the bugfix buff and the jump in performance

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that or killtimes / belt loss

balmy condor
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oh

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I was responding to something from like

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2 hours ago

bright turret
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dont gotta give sin its seasonal 3% aura buff if you just leave it bugged most of the season

balmy condor
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I have no idea what the current convo is

static glacier
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Just a

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no

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No reply or mention

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Maybe it’s your turn to schizomax

coral ibex
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nah sometimes discord just doesn't scroll even tho it should

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and you look like a schizo

static glacier
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As a bugfix this time 😳

static glacier
bright turret
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i still find it funny it took so long for people to notice it

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fated just a hot mess and no one knew cause it was junk until this tier

static glacier
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It was playable

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For both last tiers outside of aoe

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Rng though

bright turret
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i hope simplifying things means less potential bugs, but blizzard will surely find a way

static glacier
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Less overall dmg sources and spell interactions should lead to a lot less difficult to replicate spaghetti code

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Bc you better believe they’re spamming go to statements

bright turret
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i wanna see a bug where the vault has 3 dupes before the ocean claims the servers

haughty flicker
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i wanna see a bug where i have a good vault for once

true rapids
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i got p lucky this tier didnt have to take a socket till after prog

bright turret
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gotta spread ion propaganda every week if you want good vaults, that's been my secret

desert vault
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Did anything change with stats? I am at 6% haste, but haste gear is simming suuuuper high for me now, for raid builds

coral ibex
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nothing changed

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haste isnt a bad stat

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the less of it you have the more the sim will tell you to get to balance it out

desert vault
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shows the haste trinket from salad as my bis basically

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almost 3%

coral ibex
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that sounds like you just have bad trinkets

desert vault
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but still need to craft a neck, so probably just do a haste/mastery and maybe haste on cloak instead of crit or something

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just normal antenna and mythic lily atm

split grail
wise plover
wise plover
fresh kelp
half tartan
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when did sin start outscalling sub for last 2 bosses?

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swapped on end of saladbar prog and it feels so much better

balmy condor
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And sub is omega shit single target

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So as the weeks go by, sub actually just power crept out of the raid tbh

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It’s niche was giga burst, especially in aoe

bright turret
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a tale as old as time

tawdry halo
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real ones play in a mediocre CE guild so they never have to swap off assassin coolpanda

balmy condor
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so based and real, I say playing in a mediocre CE guild so I never have to swap off assassination

tawdry halo
vestal granite
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I m swapping to Outlaw next week
coolpanda

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so dumb you have to wait 10 weeks because of crests to go offspec

fallow canopy
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swapped to saladbar this week and can confirm you just omega fuck the dragon

fallow canopy
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can't stop me already fucked it

tawdry halo
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evokers in shambles

oak tangle
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heroic dragon dies so fast i missed 4s of dm on it

rotund oak
tawny geyser
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Do we go hard on Tangles on Loomi? Or we ignore?

sharp viper
tawdry halo
balmy condor
red schooner
sharp viper
tawny geyser
red schooner
buoyant herald
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My brother

red schooner
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Or just swap I guess, but he's likely the sort that will see the low add damage anyhow

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And then complain at you for not swapping despite swapping

buoyant herald
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The thing is your damage will still be shit if you swap so

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Can’t win

balmy condor
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Raid lead thinks he’s gods gift to the game raid leading a 3/8 mythic guild at 37 thousand world rank

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CLASSIC

red schooner
buoyant herald
balmy condor
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Big words from the blue parsing raid lead that probably can’t read logs past a damage dealt graph

buoyant herald
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I mean you either just leave or do what he says despite knowing better, there’s not really a third option

tawny geyser
balmy condor
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What a clown

tawny geyser
red schooner
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But yeah he'll 100% be the sort to complain about the low add damage you do if you hardswap

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Or he'd ask you to play sub kekdog

tawny geyser
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He already did hahaha
But I got an excuse from it because I still dont have the Prism and my gear overall isnt really tuned for sub atm

balmy condor
tawny geyser
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Nah, that was just his feedback.
There’s more to the msg after, its all good just gotts focus tangles next time I guess

red schooner
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What boss are you guys currently at?

tawny geyser
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Nexus

golden loom
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Do not bend the knee to a mad king

buoyant herald
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I had a similar conversation with my RL last tier and ended up saying i’d swap to sub to make the add damage look better at the cost of more meaningful boss damage

tawny geyser
buoyant herald
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Bro what

golden loom
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does the guy have blackmail material on you or what LOL

tawny geyser
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No no

buoyant herald
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Blink once if you’re being held hostage

tawdry halo
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holy this is excellent drama

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nothing hits that ragebait spot like moron RLs being morons

drifting cloud
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Link him exiles vod from week1 he doesnt swap to a tangle

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And then ask if 9% and 15 more ilvl is enough for you to do the same

red schooner
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Just hardswap for a few pulls, show him the damage and maybe he'll relent

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Its not a hill I'd die on probably

golden loom
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get yourself a raidleader like this and your life will be way better garf

indigo mulch
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Imma be honest, I don't understand how to get dem giga logs on salsa king D;

buoyant herald
rotund oak
cunning needle
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but yeah that RL is a moron

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he'd probably also crash out if you played sub on araz and did 0 damage to pylons

snow tundra
oak tangle
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what fights? your mythic logs are ok

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sure they aren't 90's

snow tundra
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Yes they were good at lower ilvl but if you look the higher ilvl my logs are grey

golden loom
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and what happened with your deathmark casts

snow tundra
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I really don't know maybe was mechanic sync with it? 😅 I thought we didn't need to vanish anymore on fate according to guides not talking about vanish at all

golden loom
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vanish on fatebound is important

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are you using finishers on 5+ combo points? I feel like the wasted combo points are a bit high here so I get the feeling you are going to 7 a lot?

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!vanish

prisma monolithBOT
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Vanish->Ambush during cooldowns with Darkest Night up has two main benefits:

  • Getting more mark uptime by reapplying when it's down
  • Consuming Darkest Night then puts you from 3 stacks of the mark down to 2 since the mark is already applied

As of September 13th with the Echoing Reprimand Fix, that second part is broken. Blizzard inadvertantly added a bug where you cannot consume mark stacks while darkest night is active. This will hopefully get resolved quickly as it is quite impactful. Until that time, you might want to consider taking improved garrote in your single target build (instead of 1 point of vicious venoms, or instead of improved poison). You do not have to do this, and if you would like to continue to play without improved garrote, you would simply hold onto your vanish in case you drop the mark. Once the bug is fixed you would go back to vanish->ambush.

golden loom
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ignore that

balmy condor
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!dj

prisma monolithBOT
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antennaglorp Vanishing On Fatebound antennaglorp

  • you vanish for double jeopardy, a Fatebound talent
  • this causes your next flip to flip an additional coin, and this coin can be an edge-case coin
  • because of this, you want to vanish when you know the next flip is an edge-case flip
  • edge case flips happen as a result of pressing deathmark, kingsbane, or the two envenoms afterwards which are affected by cold blood. You can vanish before ANY of these flips.
  • you should be vanishing every 3 minutes, lining up with every other deathmark, and this will also align with netherprism every 3 minutes for maximum burst
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antennaglorp Vanishing On Fatebound antennaglorp

  • you vanish for double jeopardy, a Fatebound talent
  • this causes your next flip to flip an additional coin, and this coin can be an edge-case coin
  • because of this, you want to vanish when you know the next flip is an edge-case flip
  • edge case flips happen as a result of pressing deathmark, kingsbane, or the two envenoms afterwards which are affected by cold blood. You can vanish before ANY of these flips.
  • you should be vanishing every 3 minutes, lining up with every other deathmark, and this will also align with netherprism every 3 minutes for maximum burst
golden loom
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but this is why vanish is important on fatebound

red schooner
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Moroes working overtime today

snow tundra
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Ok now i understand, thank you very much! And yes i try using 5 cp but sometimes i spam too much mutilate i think

quiet oar
subtle tundra
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didnt know

tired bloom
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so is the assassination rogue fantasy more of a poisoner or a bleed applier? Looks like a mix at the moment

balmy condor
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It’s always been both

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Could make an argument that it’s shifting more towards poisons next expansions with expanded kingsbane/envenom/caustic

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But it’s always been both and probably always will be both

tired bloom
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Not always, wotlk was poison focused

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Last time I played assassination was in 2009 or so

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I'll get me some green daggers then

quiet oar
subtle tundra
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and its gonna happen again and again

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it has to

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android is goated

austere radish
# golden loom ignore that

I finish with envenom and vanish+mutilate after that
If I understood it correctly, both casts double flip the coin

subtle tundra
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im sorry

tawny rapids
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hey guys, any insight on why Assa is taking over on Salad and Dim? isit with the gear scaling but im seeing alot more assas pumping with nothing special up outside of CS

strange moss
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hi, i just started to learn about mrt notes and i dont understand how lucky fatebound coins work.. is it possible to proc after every deathmark and kingsbane? im using a top log and they're deathmarking every 90 seconds

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and kingsbane like every 45 scceonds

balmy condor
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It’s basically guaranteed every 3 min with vanish but it doesn’t matter after the first

strange moss
balmy condor
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I just use mrt for defensives but idk

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Deathmark is 1:30 on fatebound

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So I guess just a reminder every 1:30

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Depends what you’re trying to get out of it

strange moss
balmy condor
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Tier set makes it 1:30

strange moss
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that happens every cast right? including kingsbane as well?

balmy condor
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What happens every cast

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The edge case coins?

strange moss
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yes

balmy condor
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Ye

strange moss
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gotcha thanks

long oak
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How is Assa on M+? He's dead?

balmy condor
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Pretty good

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Not considered meta but just under it

ebon notch
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Bro my rogue is so stacked rn

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Sheeesh

midnight mist
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gg bro

humble verge
midnight mist
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nah unfortunatly im only 728.5

humble verge
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bro not even the rogue with highest ilvl

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smh

midnight mist
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tbf

humble verge
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beaten out by someone in advance

midnight mist
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if you are in a guild like echo and shit

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you just never upgrade an alt

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and make it your main

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once you have the 720 achiev on "main"

humble verge
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y ofc

midnight mist
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and that guy will be infinite ilvl

humble verge
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youre crest saving everything basically

ebon notch
midnight mist
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@ebon notch

humble verge
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lol

midnight mist
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strike gapping me

ebon notch
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Hahahaha

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Yeah he probs got funneled like crazy

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He also has infinite alts so he definitely had crest reduction in every slot

midnight mist
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nah its legit an alt bro

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thats what i mean

ebon notch
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Wdym

midnight mist
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like you cant do this on main

spice surge
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Turboboost without uncapping crests is just

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Strange

ebon notch
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All about engagement

red schooner
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Next week the raidlogging begins

midnight mist
# ebon notch Wdym

well, you need to gear 2 guys at once, the guy taht you play on prog, and another, the prog guy will reach 720 ilvl achiev, you upgrade nothing on the alt till then

red schooner
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Just gotta cap my crests this week

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And I'm chilling

midnight mist
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and then when prog guy is 720 ilvl you just go on the other guy

red schooner
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Gonna just slam everything in one go

midnight mist
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and that guy has infinte ilvl

ebon notch
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My DK is also 726

midnight mist
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if i had done that my alt would be high ilvl rn

ebon notch
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It’s my Druid and shaman that are suffering rn

midnight mist
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i did the opposite tho, once i got achiev on main i upped on alt first

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so i could funnel my main

ebon notch
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Ye same

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My issue is kinda lack of mythic pieces

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So I had to craft

midnight mist
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but ye look

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strike is a new rogue

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idk if i like this system tbh

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its super weird

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im happy i got to abuse it quite a bit this season but

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idk

ebon notch
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Tbf making it easier to gear alts is nice

midnight mist
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well ye the idea is nice

ebon notch
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Maybe you should stop being a dingus

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And gear an alt

midnight mist
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its just weird you can either funnel mains, or make alts better than mains

midnight mist
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wdym

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i stopped playing it now but

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i boosted my main quite a lot with this guy

iron carbon
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Je valide

midnight mist
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ty cuh

ebon notch
midnight mist
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i hated enhance

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i hated ww

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i hated havoc

humble verge
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just like

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play 3 rogues

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hello

midnight mist
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im trying someting new fotm

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i have zacrebleu

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zacuh

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zacussy

ebon notch
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ok what do you mean "hated"

midnight mist
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and zacques

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i preferred playing rogue

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so imma do just that

humble verge
ebon notch
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zac can play all 3 rogue specs very well

spice lagoon
midnight mist
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no

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imma just play 5 rogues

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it will be good

humble verge
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i play 3 assa rogues

scarlet crest
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Hi, Does the double proc of tierset in FB is random or not ?

humble verge
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its unintended

scarlet crest
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Not the answer tho

humble verge
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no i just answered your question

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its a bug

scarlet crest
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Yes but is it random

humble verge
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no

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you can make it happen all the time if u time it right

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if you track the special coin proc

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and double envenom quickly enough

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you double proc

scarlet crest
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Thanks

ebon notch
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@humble verge where do you play

humble verge
ebon notch
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no way dude me too

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your parents are very nice

humble verge
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what

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when did u get into my house

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ebon notch
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im in ur walls

midnight mist
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wtf ..

humble verge
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idk, they are pretty thin

ebon notch
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i meant what guild

humble verge
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but im watching Phantom Liberty end credits

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brb

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alr im back

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i raid in a shit guild

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270+ pulls on dimensius and like

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max 10 p3 pulls lol

ebon notch
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a shit guild where you play multiple alts?

humble verge
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oh no

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i just play multiple alts cause of fun

red schooner
humble verge
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i mostly made them to boost like

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last tier

red schooner
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Like, nah

humble verge
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for ansurek runs

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and now i just do it for gallywix runs too

humble verge
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the guy who shitposts 9/10 times here

ebon notch
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i uh

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dont know you

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so

humble verge
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yea

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since ure blue

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😠

drifting cloud
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blue people yuck

ebon notch
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idek what colour i am

tawdry halo
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
humble verge
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damn

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kinda sad im done with cyberpunk

distant plinth
oak tangle
humble verge
humble verge
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ive watched the show

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crazy to me

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the guy singing is polish

weary stump
humble verge
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can one expect like

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somone at 700 ilvl atleast do like 4-5m overall idk

main bridge
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You’re always doing carries for free

distant plinth
main bridge
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Very kind of you

humble verge
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or just leave

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when people are under 715

main bridge
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Well if it’s a 10 I think that’s a fine ilvl

golden loom
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also your own fault for doing dawnbreaker

jaunty sky
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Thing is you could be relatively high ilvl with absolutely horrible gear

weary stump
weary stump
jaunty sky
weary stump
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True garf

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I always forget those stilletos exist

main bridge
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Someone was here the other day asking if they should craft that because ChatGPT suggested it

jaunty sky
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I wish it was good

weary stump
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Bring it into mythic dimensius

red schooner
humble verge
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ECODOME???

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ARE U CRAZY

spice surge
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Dawnbreaker best dungeon

unborn rain
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nah

spice surge
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Gambit can suck a fat one, thats all my guildies want to run because "its fast"

unborn rain
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are they ranged?

royal lantern
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or when the "NPC" enemys start casting on the group prayge

golden loom
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ecodome and gambit my goats

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especially the music in ecodome

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they just nailed the music in this entire patch tbh, bangers all around

royal lantern
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dawnbreaker could be so good, if it would not break somehow every 2nd run

golden loom
#

idk dawnbreaker has 3 awful bosses

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or like 2nd boss is kinda whatever

#

but first boss is awful and rashanan is the most boring thing ever put into a dungeon

fickle flower
#

Since I'm currently using the Subtlety talent, how about switching to the Assassination talent since everything has gotten stronger overall?

unborn rain
#

thats a great decision

#

assa stocks just rising from here

fickle flower
#

Currently, “vers” is at 23k, so I guess I should craft gear or collect gear and then switch?

unborn rain
#

idt secondaries matter that much for assa

half tartan
#

yeah i swappped to sin last night on salamander and have a bunch of verse and it felt fine

#

just think I need a little bit more haste for it to feel better

fickle flower
#

My stats are crit 6k, haste 800, mastery 25k, and versatility 22k, but it doesn't matter? holy

unborn rain
#

help theyre talking about secondaries again

half tartan
#

you deff need a lot more crit tho

#

new iteration of fatebound values crit a good amount

fickle flower
#

Thanks for the reply. I guess I'll have to try assassination.

prisma monolithBOT
#

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

  • Signet of the Priory will require you have Mastery as your highest RATING (the actual number, not the %). Having Crit and Mastery close to one another will cause procs from Flask or Seaforium Pacemaker to cause your Signet to give you Crit. This is generally worse and will cause Signet to sim poorly.
  • Compared to each other, Deathstalker wants more Mastery/Haste than Fatebound, and Fatebound wants more Crit than Deathstalker
  • Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
royal lantern
humble verge
#

u mean

unborn rain
#

u right

half tartan
# royal lantern .....common man, dont make people rant about stats again, if you are at the 7th ...

???? All I was saying was that I literally swapped from Sub to Sin last night after progging mostly sub, and that my output was fine, and I agreed that stats have not much difference in output, I made a small comment that a bit of haste may bring me a bit of value and that more crit for him at very little would likely bring him value, I literally have 869 haste on my character sheet. Simmed my values and yes getting some more haste would bring me some value.

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/ktzMghxdRqvLjPaf?fight=59&type=damage-done&cutoff=4
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/xo9RhobtHEpVPrmM3C54up

young pebble
#

If I Shadowstep during Fractillus' wallbreak knockback before my character hits the wall, does that wall still break?

royal lantern
manic pebble
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
half tartan
runic hinge
main bridge
#

stat weights in 2025
???????????????????????????

#

that's bananas

storm forum
#

I miss statweights

half tartan
#

Wolfwolf

unborn rain
#

cute kanye pfp bro

half tartan
#

❤️

#

Anybody playing sin for Dimmy? How do platforms feel.

oak tangle
humble verge
#

dont DM

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or else u wont have it up for amp

#

but i guess p2.2 bl is just for p3 prog

compact carbon
#

yo guys, is the 4pc fatebound bug (random double proc) still around ? or i can finally get rid of my sub spec in raid

oak tangle
#

que?

red schooner
oak tangle
#

like no its still here, but what that got to do with sub

unborn rain
#

assa > sub

static glacier
wild horizon
#

Hi, an idea of ideal use of Prism on Saladar for prog ?

static glacier
golden loom
#

ideal would be something like on pull -> 1.5min cds -> 4.5 min cds (damage amp)

static glacier
#

if so you could save stacks for it, otherwise hold stacks for amp

golden loom
#

like when you go for the kill atleast u for sure want to prism the amp

#

too much boss dam

static glacier
#

other than that just follow normal usage rules, send with vanish every 2nd dm or you can just send on every dm for a modest loss (0.6%)

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I never even got to use prism for it, got myth lily vs normal prism

golden loom
#

I have never used prism on nexus king either garf

#

even tho I have a myth one

static glacier
#

a fellow gentleman I see

golden loom
#

the first few raids we progged we didnt get to damage amp

#

and now im playing warrior

static glacier
#

yooo

#

I swear that's a crazy upgrade

#

don't you just mash raging blow like 70% of the time and beat rogues sweating

golden loom
#

havent played rogue on it since the boss nerfs but warrior is the goddamn goat

#

never feel in danger

static glacier
#

this is you bro

golden loom
#

problem is that my wrist does hurt after raid garf

static glacier
#

oh, minor repeated aoe dmg event happened and you didn't press anything? we g

#

meanwhile rogues in hell after forgetting to feint once

golden loom
#

spell reflect on every claw garf spell reflect banishment garf no personals popped in soak and hp bar doesnt move garf

static glacier
#

highkey

#

that spell is slept on

#

people think of the reflect part and forget it's magic dr on no cd

golden loom
#

yeah its perfect for the dot aswell

#

DR for the whole dot and then it blocks the pop

static glacier
#

only real downgrade for warriors imo could be mobility / not having an immune

#

idk though, they natty tank instant death consistently

#

bastards tanked ticks of tindral lasers

golden loom
#

uhh I would say fury is way more mobile

#

than rogue

static glacier
#

ansurek lines

static glacier
#

the shadowstep specs there can be a debate

midnight scroll
wild horizon
golden loom
#

double charges of charge on low cd and leap are just crazy

#
  • the movespeed in general
static glacier
midnight scroll
#

agreed, the only reason i swapped to void elf is for the racial portal, it really does help out in certain situations

wild horizon
#

yeah I've had a look at lorgs but usage are all over tha place

golden loom
#

this talent lowkey underrated

#

oh also bladestorm is kinda mobility in the way that you can just ignore mechanics and stand still garf

static glacier
weary stump
royal lantern
static glacier
#

it could be a lack of crit

weary stump
#

Critical information is missing garf

static glacier
#

the issue with stats only ever comes up if you're playing sin with another spec's gearset

#

and even then you're at most gonna be losing a few %

royal lantern
#

just crit bozo

#

imagine clutching on crit rate instead of just highrolling your 12% lmao

static glacier
#

bro leme find the one time

#

whisp just told me to crit more

#

to be fair I actually had barely any crit, it was kinda criminal

#

recrafts resulted in like 280k gains or something dumb

fallow canopy
weary stump
#

Just shrimple facts

static glacier
#

all im saying is if fatebound lasts enough years

#

you guys know the end goal right

#

we will get combustion, trust

storm forum
#

The end goal is 100% uptime DM

static glacier
#

the 100% crit

storm forum
#

Can't say I've ever been in any dungeon as fatebound

static glacier
#

sounds like a reasonable position to hold

#

I played maybe 50fb keys throughout this expac

weary stump
#

The coin turns into a d20

static glacier
#

ngl

#

thematically our tre

#

es

#

suck so hard

#

they only make sense for one spec, each of them

#

when did my sin rogue become a gamba addict, my sub rogue became unnable to target switch and my outlaw rogue stop being a gamba addict

royal lantern
static glacier
#

honestly it's not as bad as you'd think

royal lantern
rotund oak
static glacier
#

and your mental will be ok

#

track it and you're gazing into the abyss

solemn swan
#

hey everyone , im getting back into the game and ive been playing sub because i love the spec buut i wanted to check out assassination , i see 2 different builds out there 1 with sudden demise and no kingsbane and another with kingsbane and dragon tempered blades , whats the difference im feelin a bit lost

#

^M+ , and is it fatebound or Deathstalker

rotund oak
#

where did you see these builds friend

coral ibex
#

!guide

rotund oak
#

deathstalker for m+

coral ibex
#

read the wowhead guide

#

it will tell you about the builds

rotund oak
#

also that,read the guide

rotund oak
solemn swan
#

thanks , i was checking out the top rogues on Murlok.io

#

thanks ==)

rotund oak
#

....

coral ibex
#

murlok just pulls armory

#

they probably just logged out in raid build

#

there's no intelligence on murlok

rotund oak
#

murlok.io for checking out on a spec is criminal

#

unless u are into pvp

solemn swan
#

i dunno im getting back into it and i wanted to do some digging before coming on the discord

rotund oak
#

best thing u can do is check out the wowhead guide

coral ibex
#

definitely check out the guides

rotund oak
#

rly good stuff,will help

coral ibex
#

that's where information is actually presented in an intentional manner

#

it isn't just a data scraper

solemn swan
#

thanks lads

hoary remnant
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
humble verge
#

maybe ill have to do a new run but as corpo

oak tangle
#

i played corpo in my one playthrough

humble verge
#

is there actually a way

#

to save your savefiles to another space

#

so you can start a new one or

#

how does that work

oak tangle
#

im unsure

coral ibex
#

yea they're probably in My Documents

humble verge
#

looks like it

coral ibex
#

The default Cyberpunk 2077 save location on Windows is in your user's "Saved Games" folder: C:\Users[Your Username]\Saved Games\CD Projekt Red\Cyberpunk 2077

humble verge
#

yea

#

i saw that article

royal lantern
#

that was such a incredible burning pile, its impressive

#

so badly coded that it literally destroyed the consoles and PC's of some people kekman

static glacier
#

boys its gg

#

was ordered to go back sub, they don't care

#

its just go sub stfu

humble verge
#

bruh, i was wondering why my os disk was so full - forgot to delete my saladbar videos garf_sit

main bridge
#

i don't think sub is even optimal this far into the tier

latent kernel
#

How much better is nether prism than lily anyone have a %

echo plume
#

!dj

prisma monolithBOT
#

antennaglorp Vanishing On Fatebound antennaglorp

  • you vanish for double jeopardy, a Fatebound talent
  • this causes your next flip to flip an additional coin, and this coin can be an edge-case coin
  • because of this, you want to vanish when you know the next flip is an edge-case flip
  • edge case flips happen as a result of pressing deathmark, kingsbane, or the two envenoms afterwards which are affected by cold blood. You can vanish before ANY of these flips.
  • you should be vanishing every 3 minutes, lining up with every other deathmark, and this will also align with netherprism every 3 minutes for maximum burst
static glacier
#

this close to the kill

#

its such a tilt when the earlier meta influences knowledge now

#

people judt dont know how bad sub is on st

royal lantern
#

it was #1 dmg on world first dimmi you dumb dumb

golden loom
#

Assa is #1 spec on dimmy atm!

red schooner
#

How to summon Tryan - mention about sub not being great in raid.

#

He fucking sprints here kekdog

earnest remnant
#

sub sucks

#

buff it

royal lantern
#

its a meme

oak tangle
#

sub st is only good cause they give up nothing to cleave

royal lantern
#

cus thats what some people really still say lol

earnest remnant
#

sub st is not good

oak tangle
#

i mean specifically on those bosses mr trashpanda

earnest remnant
#

its quite fucking awfull

#

yes very good

oak tangle
#

well yeah also cause people have ilvl now

earnest remnant
#

lil bit better on dimmy

oak tangle
#

rogues get a dagger and a dream

#

and then a few weeks later everyone catches us

earnest remnant
#

sub was never good boss dmg

#

wasent why it was played

oak tangle
#

can argue where the metric lies, but that is passable boss dam for what it provides cleave wise

earnest remnant
#

once you stop holding dmg its only gonna drop lower

royal lantern
#

sub was played for its instant aoe burst when instant aoe burst was important

#

thats it

earnest remnant
#

yes

royal lantern
#

its not about "it does boss dmg while cleave"

#

its 2025, everyone cleaves lol

earnest remnant
#

and it did strong dmg during the burn on nexus king which was very important

#

it does good dmg in a 20 sec window

#

outside of that

#

or overall

#

it does fuck all

golden loom
#

Now with assa fixed it gets beaten there aswell garf

#

Probably was close even before? Since 30 sec amp kinda goated for assa

earnest remnant
#

think its about the same

#

dmg wise

#

but most sub rogue wont be holding prism for it anymore

#

so likely lower than assa without it

#

pure burst sub should win over assa even during lust

#

assa just does ALOT more

#

before and after it

static glacier
#

it doesnt matter

#

the simple truth is i didnt start prog as sin

#

so i am not allowed to switch now

#

it's w/e man, ill just full hold all dps for p1

#

to make it better for other people

main bridge
#

AFK simulator

spice spire
main bridge
#

Sounds fun

static glacier
#

genuinely ye

#

i will autoswing the walls

golden loom
#

Just play outlaw and see if someone notices

static glacier
#

this guy called out sin mid pull

#

after like 6-7 pulls I think

#

it's w/e man, at most it's 2-3 more nights

#

of backstab simulator

weary stump
#

Just out DPS whoever is calling you out so you can tell them to just accept it

golden loom
#

Bro died to a puddle or something and saw red

static glacier
#

I was doing good dps as sin

#

like top 2-3

#

sub im out here with the tanks

earnest remnant
#

the day my rl has anysay over what spec i choose to play

static glacier
#

genuinely

earnest remnant
#

is the day the sun turns off

static glacier
#

im just gona give them the most beautiful performance

weary stump
#

Then tell your raid lead to simply accept it

static glacier
#

the 704 fully stacked nether prism on plat 2

#

that platform about to blow up

#

if this is what it takes for the boss to die so be it

golden loom
#

You could blow it up

#

As sin

#

Smile

static glacier
#

honestly

#

im just trying to not crash out about this

weary stump
#

Crash out glorpgue

golden loom
#

Im crashing out for you

static glacier
#

this isn't a "im testing"

#

i have much better sin gear AND

#

im like 10x as good

#

as i am on sub

#

i fucking suck on sub

golden loom
#

Cause they are the same thing, both are 2 button rogue specs on 90 seconds

spice spire
#

As a treat

static glacier
#

yes I said, same cd timers

#

if they did different stuff id understand

weary stump
#

It's our calling as rogue to just tell the raid lead we doing thing and they accept, as let's be honest no one else in raid groups understand our class

static glacier
#

im also running no cb cus headache

#

shoutout tea sub gamers

golden loom
#

Tea sub in raid huh

static glacier
#

its like 1% or less behind

#

on pure st

golden loom
#

Tell them that and they will beg for sin

static glacier
#

nah they wont

#

they'd rather me greylog sub than sin

#

there's no negotiation

main bridge
#

your guild sounds terrible dude

static glacier
#

they're great actually

#

this is the first kinda big disagreement

#

the thing is I don't matter either way, im 1/14 dps

weary stump
#

It sounds like your raid lead just doesn't know our class

main bridge
#

how is it great to be micromanaged like that

rare horizon
#

It’s worth still pooling for chain envenoms ? I fell I’m not getting nice uptime spamming energy

static glacier
#

its a healing officer, not rl

golden loom
#

BRO WHAT

waxen oyster
#

as a beam comes in

main bridge
#

lmao WTF

golden loom
#

IF A HEALER TELLS ME WHAT SPEC TO PLAY

weary stump
#

Oh then def tell healing lad to sit the fuck down

golden loom
#

ITS A MUTE

static glacier
#

lowkey

royal lantern
main bridge
#

an officer that doesn't even play dps let alone rogue is telling you what to do. THAT IS BANANAS

weary stump
#

We can't accept slander from dirty healers

static glacier
#

it's surface level understanding

main bridge
#

they're gonna ask to pilot your character next

royal lantern
golden loom
#

Idk legit just crash out

main bridge
#

is there anything they don't tell you how to do?

static glacier
golden loom
#

So he learns

static glacier
#

current sub

golden loom
static glacier
#

it just feels like ur stuck in no fun mode for like 80% of the fight

weary stump
static glacier
#

why cant i just have more sod charges man

weary stump
#

Fuck those people

static glacier
#

nah man, they've been good to me

waxen oyster
#

idk i like current sub

static glacier
#

genuinely

waxen oyster
#

i hate perma dance sub

#

because none of your dances feel impactful

golden loom
#

Legit if he has that little understanding, sceenshot current stats of mythic dimmy where sin is #1 and tell him thats that

weary stump
#

Twin, we will do the crash out for you, send the healer officer our discord

static glacier
#

I want to hurt

#

whoever decided we should lose DUST

waxen oyster
#

i dont mind that

#

tbh

static glacier
#

BRING BACK DUST

#

bring it the fuck back man

#

i can't handle more of this just holding everything

#

and pressing backstab

waxen oyster
#

i go from like

#

11th on meter to first

static glacier
#

no opportunity to play around antenna procs or anything

waxen oyster
#

because i get to bust a nut

static glacier
#

ur just

waxen oyster
#

on platform

static glacier
#

fucking chained

#

to the floor

waxen oyster
#

idk i dont think sub is better at anything now besides

#

nuking platform

#

while rest of your side can just hit titan

weary stump
#

Shrimply let us talk to the healer glorpingspree

waxen oyster
#

oh and i guess you're tankier

#

esp with elu

static glacier
#

ngl

#

if the brewmaster does like

#

a bit more dps

#

i will legit lose

#

before p3

waxen oyster
#

could be worse

#

could lose your autumn because your hpal is the only healer that knows how to play dps

static glacier
#

you have autumn>?

#

kekw

waxen oyster
#

*had

static glacier
#

thats anothe reason sin is better

#

it doesnt care about the amp as much

#

sub you better fucking get the coups in

#

or ur doomed

waxen oyster
#

you do lose a bit more delaying cds that much

#

since people dont just stop hitting the pack

#

but sin also cares more about just not losing uptime

humble verge
waxen oyster
#

sub its like as long as it isnt cds uptime its whatever

static glacier
#

it doesnt matter, i should just roll off a class where I dislike one of the specs

golden loom
#

I do love being a spec that doesnt really care about cds + having cdr on nexus king

weary stump
#

Nono friend, just let us talk to your healer

#

We'll handle your crash out and eat you on sin easy

static glacier
#

its jhust we said dont change

#

thats the argument

#

not about whats right

golden loom
#

Just slam reck bladestorm asap when I get back down from platforms, and it will be back at some point during amp garf

waxen oyster
#

i mean fury is

#

just fulltime zug

#

start to finish

golden loom
#

Its the warrior fantasy

waxen oyster
#

i forget whats the threshold you can hold bs

#

for an add spwawn

golden loom
#

Its a bit more important now

waxen oyster
#

especially since bs gives overwhelmed stacks

golden loom
#

Cause u need to apply debuff to giga cleave

waxen oyster
#

so you can cleave reaps easier

golden loom
#

But bladestorm in general is like legit a 25 sec cd

waxen oyster
#

oh im aware

golden loom
#

Just goddamn spin

waxen oyster
#

most warriors play arcanocore+sac

#

from what i see on logs

#

or antenna

golden loom
#

I have hero sac + myth arcano

waxen oyster
#

i got stone idol

#

my first hoa

#

idk my warrior is peak cruise control

#

ima dragon on it for some reason

#

so full afk to knock mechanics too

oak tangle
#

what the fuck do raid leads smoke in CE guilds

#

holy shit

waxen oyster
#

lower end ce guilds tend to be like that

#

especially since imo CE is easier than ever

#

with aura buffs+turbo

oak tangle
#

every time i consider setting up to look for a CE guild, i see these posts and nope the fuck out

golden loom
#

Nah raiding is fun as fuck

oak tangle
#

mans unallowed to swap a spec

golden loom
#

Like we are 240 pulls into saladbar and I am still having fun legit every pull kekw

#

Yeah that happend to me aswell lmao

#

Also we had a druid massroot the raid

waxen oyster
#

just talent intim shout

#

and hope the mc uses

oak tangle
#

i've no idea how saldaar plays on mythic, can your mc just cloak you, and hence the mc off?

golden loom
#

Nah

waxen oyster
#

if you "die"

#

you get mced

golden loom
#

The only counterplay to mc is cyclone

#

Which probably isnt intended but

#

Goddamn is it useful

waxen oyster
#

and most classes if you die and get rezzed

haughty flicker
#

oh it 100% isnt intended lmfao

waxen oyster
#

you probably cooked because you still have stacks

oak tangle
#

oh, i just assumed cause you said mc early, that it was intentional lol

waxen oyster
#

of the debuff

golden loom
#

Kinda sad we didnt kill it yesterday as it wouldve been the first kill with 3 boomies in the raid

waxen oyster
#

cheat is just alot less useful

#

because you wont proc it

#

you just get mced and die

#

well technically i think you can cheat in the other phases?

oak tangle
#

if it's like heroic, then only p1 has mc

waxen oyster
#

yeah the big mythic thing is just you have to face your ghosts

#

else you get the stack back

golden loom
#

I do love how 1 in 100 ghost sets is just impossible

waxen oyster
#

oh yeah

golden loom
#

I swear sometimes a ghost ends up in dimmys room or in dornogal

waxen oyster
#

i also like how im way far from the dragons

#

but server lag i get smacked by one anyway

waxen oyster
golden loom
waxen oyster
#

idk fuck tea though

golden loom
#

Banger fight tho

#

Like its legit just fun

#

As melee atleast

waxen oyster
#

it looks like a chill time as warrior

#

tbh

golden loom
#

Yeah I mean

#

Its impossible to die unless its a freak accident pull

#

20 million stamina + everything else based

waxen oyster
#

mostly pranked by a beam from behind

golden loom
#

Nah it takes like 3 ticks of beam to die garf

weary stump
golden loom
upper wraith
#

is assa cooked this season or what

balmy condor
#

it's pretty good

ancient ingot
#

guys can someone explain how if in raid me and someguy have same roll and he just take it ? Thats now always reroll ?