assassination

[tranquil cobalt]

why woudl that make spatter not work

[normal mist]

...

[oak tangle]

cause it's deadly poison

🙂

[analog field]

xd

!causticbug

[prisma monolith]

Caustic is not bugged. The Green Puddle on the ground is Poison Bomb, not Caustic Spatter. You are either:

1. Not using Deadly/Amplifying poison (or its not applied to your target)
2. Not using Rupture on your target
3. Not using Mutilate/Ambush if the above two are applied

[copper hazel]

knew the command was somewhere

[tranquil cobalt]

alright let me see if i chose the wrong one

[normal mist]

Let's see if your wife is right

[tranquil cobalt]

she normally is

[normal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-bean-mrbean-bean-mr-bean-holiday-mr-bean-holiday-movie-gif-3228235746377647455

[past bobcat]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[proven jasper]

Dude totally had instant poison smh my head

[tranquil cobalt]

she was indeed right. and my indica pen is too strong

[normal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-jesus-heres-another-one-stan-marsh-south-park-pandemic-s12e10-gif-22776152

[zinc wing]

Why even consider Instant poison in assa?

[proven jasper]

You dont

[tranquil cobalt]

she was indeed right. and my indica pen is too strong

[oak tangle]

the rage baiter from before probs does

[severe meadow]

Prob just applied the wrong poison, but yeah, gotta have deadly

[tranquil cobalt]

yes i was too stoned ahah

[royal lantern]

the only reason it exists

is so you have 2 lethal poisons as a option if you take Dragon Tempered Blades but NOT amp poison for some reason

[sterile sinew]

With stone idol is it still best to pop trinket in the same sequence as in the wowhead opener?

[balmy condor]

After shiv before deathmark

[sterile sinew]

word

[balmy condor]

Praying you get a better trinket

[sterile sinew]

[tidal hatch]

imagine a world where everyone made their vices their entire personality the same way stoners do

aha bro i messed up that pull the coffee jitters got me aha

[royal lantern]

calm down buddy

[unborn rain]

what yall get from vault

performative substance abuse is cringe

abuse in silence
be a man

[weary stump]

Abuse substances that can enhance your wow gameplay, every stimulant possible

[unborn rain]

^

"sorry guys i fucked up had to hit the drug that makes me lazy and insane before pull"

[weary stump]

"sorry guys I fucked up give me a sec to do a line and recharge, I haven't slept for five days"

[main bridge]

Meanwhile you mess up and don’t even have being high as an excuse

[weary stump]

Same

[unborn rain]

[balmy condor]

I was high on weakauras

[main bridge]

Weakauras. Not even once

[weary stump]

Weakauras overdose

[unborn rain]

worse than fent

[tidal hatch]

your mistake is assuming id waste perfectly good coke on manaforge omega

[unborn rain]

raiding on coke sounds like a nightmare experience

[severe meadow]

Or the best parse of your life

[unborn rain]

its not aderall

[severe meadow]

Adderall slows me down so

[unborn rain]

0-0

[severe meadow]

I don’t have the usual effect people have with it, idk

[weary stump]

Nono you use it for fighting void mommy next expac

[unborn rain]

save it all for classic 2 molten core

[pallid hound]

Got a pretty dumb question but, when simming Assa for m+ for items, should I do 5 / 10 target patchwerk or dungeon slice? Which one is more accurate

[tidal hatch]

i thought i was blasting

unfortunately im a blue parse boy

[unborn rain]

5 mins patch for raids dungn slice for m+

[main bridge]

You don’t have to change any of that for dungeon slice. You also can’t even if you wanted to

[unborn rain]

79 ilevel parse tho

[tidal hatch]

that aint mean shit

[unborn rain]

good cope tho

[tidal hatch]

considering my rogue has exactly two (2) myth track items...

real copin hours

nah honestly i played like shit

[polar matrix]

!buglist

[severe meadow]

Can find the bugs in pins

Just scroll down a little

[hot pasture]

!spreadsheet

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[humble verge]

why does youtube like, change their shit 24/7

[rotund oak]

clearly targeted hate

[real pike]

People that are paid a lot of money to do things that can't be sitting around not doing things so they do things that don't need doing

[plain solstice]

!WA

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[unborn rain]

can someone look at my logs and tell me why i suck

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/VfkD3xFvHdrmCwJY?fight=15&type=damage-done&source=27

[rotund oak]

@spice spire

[haughty flicker]

ngl the cd bug immediately removes any ability for me to review the log

you probably shouldve had a shiv available to use during this kb

[unborn rain]

valid

oof yeah

[balmy condor]

it's weird

[humble verge]

death stranding reference in cyberpunk lul

[balmy condor]

I'm not sure it it actually triggered the bug

[balmy condor]

sir this is a world of warcraft discord?

[balmy condor]

how is it possible that you mentioned 2 games and neither of them are part of the discord you're talking in

half your posts should be in #off-topic

cut it out

[humble verge]

i dont know anyone in #off-topic

[balmy condor]

anyways

leezy you had a cold blood for every kb

so there's like

not really any bug here

[haughty flicker]

wait yeah

is this just turbo cursed cd usage

well he had deathmark at 1m and on pull

[balmy condor]

yeh

[haughty flicker]

so it definitely bugged a bit

[balmy condor]

yeah but it didn't even get him an extra cast

[haughty flicker]

i hate this bug

[balmy condor]

just trolled for fun I guess

[haughty flicker]

i legit always just pretend it didnt happen whenever i see it

because i cant be fucked figuring out how to make use of it

[balmy condor]

yeh I mean that is the safest way

[rotund oak]

how many times u see it

[haughty flicker]

very often ngl

[balmy condor]

basically every pull

[haughty flicker]

like every pull i did of lfr today

[rotund oak]

damn this sucks

[balmy condor]

but yeh, don't troll your trinket

[unborn rain]

ysah

this was a cursed night

[inner crypt]

!MACROS

!macro

[prisma monolith]

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[real pike]

Just ignore it unless you get DM coming up early then consider hodling KB and CB for 30 secs

Or 15 or whatever it is

[haughty flicker]

I will continue to always ignore it

[real pike]

That works just fine too

Play around CB never go wrong

[keen spruce]

U know me

[jolly stirrup]

Hey,

So right now, I have Myth Lilly binded to DM, and my opener/burst is: Shiv, DM, KB, Vanish, Mutilate, Envenom
When I have Prism, i want to bind it to vanish, so can i change opener/burst to: Shiv, KB, Vanish, DM, Mutilate if needed, Envenom?

Will it still work?

Did I understand DJ correctly?

[jolly stirrup]

Or can i keep order as it is

[real pike]

Yes and in fact it is recommended

[analog field]

Don't KB before dm

[shell kraken]

ST fatebound opener and after vansish, do we cast Ambush or in fact Mutilate?
I've assume Ambush, since we spec in "Imp Ambushed", but I've been wrong before.

[analog field]

Doesn't really matter just have mut/ambush in the same key and let the game decide for you

[analog field]

use same order but vanish before dm for extra 0.1 or sth

[covert elbow]

Really undecided with what to do...either I upgrade my stabber to 727 and make the parson's dagger from my vault 730, or I craft the earthen amulet. Realistically, after we finish mythic loom, i'll know if the dagger there drops or not. In which case that'll change it all. I tihkn the overall dps increase, according to the sim is at most 0.5-1%. Moreover, it also wants me to retool my enchants on my daggers to oathsworn (vers). I assume it's because i'm top heavy on crit. I definitely need to get more mastery considering i'm not capped. I'm so silly.

[pliant remnant]

Don't upgrade stabber, take dagger from vault, craft the Earthen Amulet

Enjoy life

Smell the flowers

[covert elbow]

That was my thought, too. Especially since it's an alternate to the 2 bis

[balmy condor]

shiv vanish dm kb, not sure why you're changing the kb order

[balmy condor]

doesn't matter

[jolly stirrup]

Tyty

[glad ferry]

Aight so quick question, I suck at simming so, should I bother upgrading my myth crafted weap to 727 or just upgrade my myth Antenna and Myth Prism to 730 before

[unborn rain]

wep to 730 first

or 727 ig

[glad ferry]

I already have a 730 MH tho

[unborn rain]

oh

thn yeah trinkets then head chest legs

[glad ferry]

Aight ty

[shell kraken]

If it dosn't matter, why dont we spec into TIght Spender and just use Mutilate?

[balmy condor]

Blindside exists

[cinder steppe]

is assa good for m dimensius? just killed nexus king with assa after changing from sub and thinking on keep playing it for dimmy, wlogs shows it first but the parses are like 30 or something like that

[analog field]

Yeah it's the same idea as dimmy but maybe a bit better even

especially now that adds die really fast

[cinder steppe]

cool, will try tomorrow with assa then, because i've been searching comparations from people and every one says that you need or really benefit from blessing of autumn on subtlety, but we dont have a holy pal so its not even a question hahaha

assa doesnt need anything like that right? i guess with the overgearing the platforms cds may be desync or something but for starting progress it should be good

[balmy condor]

technically the same issue

sub and assa are both 1:30

sub was better early in prog on dimmy for the same reason it was better on nexus king

just raw add damage

add damage shouldn't be much of an issue now, so assa is probably just better

[cinder steppe]

also i got another question, i've been seeing some povs of rogues for dimmy, what exactly are people shadowstepping to avoid the push on p1? a class that doesnt get pushed like dk or something?

[balmy condor]

probably the boss

[cinder steppe]

got it, will keep it true to assa then 😄

[haughty flicker]

shadowstepping anything will cancel your momentum

people do dk a lot because you know they just wont move at all

so its probably safe to go to them

[balmy condor]

I've been perma stepping boss in p1

no reason to step a dk

[cinder steppe]

but stepping onto the boss wouldnt make me take another push as the tank is taking aggro?

or does the other tank take it?

[balmy condor]

not unless you stand on top of the tank I guess

happens sometimes

but who cares

[cinder steppe]

sorry if its stupid question but just got there today hahaha only did 4 pulls and we called it a day

[balmy condor]

you just get a lil boop and move on

[cinder steppe]

okay good to know

thank you all so much 🙂

lets hope its a better progress than nexus king for us

[slim copper]

👀

[humble verge]

how are you trolling

as 712 hunter

[green flame]

hello

help

[nova kelp]

help with what? do you have a myth dagger? if no take dagger, if yes, then sim it

[haughty flicker]

ok but what shoes should i wear to raid tonight

first time raiding in 3 weeks so i need to impress

[nova kelp]

how hot is it where you play? maybe slippers, maybe combat boots if you're some weirdo doomsday prepper, maybe just bare feet if you want to send pics

[haughty flicker]

what if i have combat boots because i was in the army but im not a prepper

if doomsday happens i'd rather just die

[nova kelp]

bare feet then

[haughty flicker]

good idea

[balmy condor]

let the dogs breathe

[nova kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-breath-gif-18188331203773192698

[balmy condor]

I have immense unbridled rage for that gif

[nova kelp]

it's very... weirdchamp

[keen spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/wow-cat-kitty-cool-hi-gif-18278845067688026866

[pliant remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-i-am-going-insane-insane-gif-25031823

[nova kelp]

You have fulfilled my destiny?
The world unfolds within me?

why is this so hectic? I'm confused.

why does that sound like a line from jojo?

[humble verge]

bruh

i didnt even realize my fastest key on main

i did 2 days ago lol

10 eco in 15minutes

[humble verge]

dog

god

[gloomy silo]

Hey guys, I have a quick question! Before popping cooldowns, we usually pool some energy, right?
Is it normal for the Envenom buff to drop during that time, or should I keep Alacrity up even if it means less energy pooling?

[balmy condor]

alacrity is not something we track

you only pool energy if it's not a deathmark cooldown set

envenom buff is not tracked either

[slim copper]

I mean. The longest we should have to pool is like 3 or 4 secs anyway right?

[gloomy silo]

Thanks so much!

[runic hinge]

Np

[gloomy silo]

I have one more question I’m really curious about — with the Fatebound talent, sometimes Mutilate gives me 5 combo points.
In that case, is there ever a situation where you Mutilate again to get 7 combo points before using Envenom?

[balmy condor]

no

[gloomy silo]

So is it better to just use Envenom right away to trigger Fatebound faster?

[balmy condor]

you use finishers on 5cp

avoids overcap and flips coins

[gloomy silo]

thank you~~!

[oak tangle]

Sometimes if I land on 5 cp I garrotte

https://tenor.com/view/oops-cat-sassy-drama-boots-gif-7944317

[balmy condor]

technically inefficient, but sims can't tell the difference

so

that's fine

[oak tangle]

Not garotting for the cps

Wait what makes it inefficient

[balmy condor]

if you're at 5 and you garrote then envenom

you're at 0cp

if you're at 5 and envenom then garrote you're at 1cp

[oak tangle]

Oh yeh

[balmy condor]

technically just makes it so you can single-crit your mutilate

but like the amount of times that happens rotationally is super rare

so

I've never gotten sims to show that it's better

it should be better

but if it only happens like once every 5 pulls

[oak tangle]

I woulda figured cp spent in a fight is cp spent

[balmy condor]

there's just not enough impact

yeah but if you spend 200 cp and you're finishing on 5 every time, that's 40 flips

and if you spend 200 cp but you're finishing on 5 every time and sometimes garroting to 6

you might end up with like 38 flips

[oak tangle]

True true, my ass forgetting coins

[balmy condor]

in a worst case

same is true with marks as well

[sonic zinc]

for soulhunters do we just plant on darksorrow

[haughty flicker]

thats what i did

just now

[balmy condor]

yeh pretty much

[sonic zinc]

bet

[haughty flicker]

guild has been on dh for like 3 weeks

i havent been raiding bc bad internet

i raid tonight and we kill in 5 pulls

[oak tangle]

Chad

[haughty flicker]

the real answer is they just did all the prog without me

but i will take the credit

[sonic zinc]

thankfully i kiled it last week on a scuffed pull

[oak tangle]

Heroic clear tonight with no monk I think my raid days are over for this season

[coral ibex]

but if you havent been raiding and you were able to just show up and kill it in 5 pulls without griefing

makes you wonder

what the hell are ranged players doing

[haughty flicker]

i was second highest damage

that shaman is enhance

i was unfortunately playing sub

[runic hinge]

Noob

[coral ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/you-make-me-sad-gif-8519504647736759484

[fallow canopy]

reclear stonks

[haughty flicker]

[unborn rain]

jealous

[humble verge]

^^boli:

[pliant remnant]

fuck you

I mean

congrats

[fallow canopy]

at this point it doesnt matter but hey +1 dinar

[weary stump]

finally got a reclear day where i didnt have to scuff mechanics so i could get halfway decent parses on first two bosses casual mythic group struggles truly

maybe this is signs of group clearing araz finally

[knotty vapor]

damn, i was sittin here happy about my 81 on loom lol

i got BEAT

also can't for the life of me get a good parse on plexus cuz he keeps dying right as my cds come up

or we miss the kill and phase it with like 5% left after i blow cds

[unborn rain]

sub 6 min plexus 😮

[sonic zinc]

does caustic hit the adds in p1 dimmy

[unborn rain]

idk i thot u meant p2

[balmy condor]

if you stand on them, yes

[slim copper]

for those of you who know me know i have been struggling with soul hunters uptime... check this out...

HYUGE

parsed an 82!

[latent kernel]

what is all this talk of coin flipping i only do m+

[slim copper]

respectfully, its not gonna be the pally's fault

send the logs someone will look at em

[cunning needle]

doesnt matter then, you only play fatebound in ST

[balmy condor]

your second shiv is late every time on your deathmarks

there is no way this is correct

the fok is for sure wrong

but 3 ruptures in a row is insane

on your 3min cds you messed up your vanish

+the late shiv again

yeh and at the end of the fight you didn't cast your prism until the boss was already dead basically

[coral ibex]

my main hand broke on our first dimmy p3 pull

lmao

couldn’t mutilate

[balmy condor]

just scuffed cooldowns

[slim copper]

for a second i thought you meant your physical hand and then reread it haha

[coral ibex]

yea i broke my hand bc i was slamming my keys so hard

[balmy condor]

Yeah don’t do that, you’re just giga overcapping energy

One tangle at most

Usually just full ignore

The second shiv in deathmark should be immediately after the first

You’re trying to cover the duration of deathmark, not kingsbane

[slim copper]

What's a tangle?

[balmy condor]

Adds on loomithar

[slim copper]

Asked my raid lead that. They almost had a stroke

[balmy condor]

Oh

[slim copper]

🤦‍♂️

bad humor my bad haha

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/23qBGQhMw9TtF86z?fight=27&type=summary&source=267

Despite how well I think I did, anyone have any good feedback other than my CT uptime. I know it was a bit rough but i forgot to do it before ints

[hearty seal]

smh
back to signet of the priory I guess
back to watching my stat values

actually...
that was stupid
should've taken the socket and bought a lily next week

[balmy condor]

why are we buying any of those trinkets

[haughty flicker]

[lean portal]

hey guys what are you st sims looking like approximately

number wise

[keen spruce]

[hearty seal]

tbh I'm not sure, I hit all my seasonals a month ago and it's not like I'm gonna push higher

[unborn rain]

who up shivving their kingsbane

[slim copper]

I know a guy

[rain mortar]

I kind of hate using netherprisyn as assa. Always feels like I’m leaving dmg in the table by casting it with DM at low stacks. I know it’s good, but it feels bad.

[slim copper]

You could always hold if ya really wanted to for every other. But that just seems goofy.

Alternatively you could get Lily or something.

[balmy condor]

5.5, 5.6 soon with a couple of crests

but also not sure if I wanna actually farm all that shit

[rain mortar]

Nah I just played sub all tier and now that I’m back playing assa which I love so much more it just feels goofy pressing the trinket at non full stacks. It’s fine, I’m just being a baby

[balmy condor]

with full farmed crests I'm like 5.75 or 5.8 I think

[lean portal]

aight thanks

[balmy condor]

but you do most of the time

[lean portal]

raidbots kept telling me bis sub gear was also my top gear for sin i was losing my mind

[rain mortar]

Wait am I just dumb and using it wrong or something? I just send with every DM

[lean portal]

started doubting

[balmy condor]

you send with vanish every 3 min

cause you buff an extra edge case that way

[rain mortar]

RIP time to make it its own keybind and un macro it to DM

[balmy condor]

macro it to vanish

and then vanish -> dm -> kb

[rain mortar]

God you’re so smart.

[balmy condor]

it's also what I've been telling people on repeat for the last 3 months but thank you

[radiant quarry]

am i missing something? Thought we press buttons in that order

[balmy condor]

I have to put some order onto the opener

but you're vanishing for double jeopardy

[radiant quarry]

got it. havent been in here in a while so wasnt aware of the change. Ive been playing sub more recently anyway but was thinking of going back sin for nexus king after seeing some parses today

[balmy condor]

yeh just how fatebound works

[jolly stirrup]

fucking finally

[slim copper]

There’s no word for dungeons?!

[jolly stirrup]

"Keller" would be it

Or "Kerker" rather

[balmy condor]

zeitwanderungsdungeons

ja sehr gut

[jolly stirrup]

[balmy condor]

und natürlich das beste schmuck von m+

der improvisierter zephyriumschrittmacher

ist doch logisch

[jolly stirrup]

Na klaro

[balmy condor]

🇩🇪

[shell kraken]

When Blindside proccs, will my macro from previous exp work still? (Tbh havn't check in entire season)
No king on macros, but seams like below needs my stealthbar active during Blindside or something - I don't have mutilate/ambush keybind on first bar.
#showtooltip Mutilate
/cast [bonusbar:1] Ambush; Mutilate
/startattack

It works during stealh/vansih

[golden loom]

Would just put mutilate on normal bar and ambush on stealth bar
As for blindside, you cannot cast mutilate when it procs at all, it turns into ambush so should work probably

Theres no reason to have seperate binds for them as they are functionally the same ability

[rotund oak]

that last word got me worried

now i need to google

oh its the pacemaker

[jolly stirrup]

But what about my favorite german word

the Eierschalensollbruchstellenverursacher

[slim copper]

Probably all that for like the word cat or something

I genuinely don’t understand why all words are so long in German.

No hate. Just funny

[balmy condor]

Schwarzwasserschimmerschuppenveste

[balmy condor]

It’s cause it’s a language with compound nouns

[balmy condor]

This is “blackwater shimmerscale vest”

English doesn’t compound more than 2 nouns

German doesn’t have a limit

So it just smashes all the nouns into one word, because it’s talking about one thing

Me and my mom used to play a memory game on roadtrips where you would have to tack on another noun at the end of a noun, and the next person would have to repeat the entire word and then tack on a noun, so on and so forth

Loser is the first person to forget a part of the word

[slim copper]

Interesting. I speak Spanish Portuguese and French and none of them do that. I guess all of them are Romance languages though so makes sense they are all similar in rules

[balmy condor]

Yeah, English has compound nouns because it’s Germanic

But over the years it’s been limited

[slim copper]

Interesting

[balmy condor]

But like, it’s incredibly common in English, English just doesn’t go past 2

Dishwasher

Basketball

Butterfly

Laptop, haircut

Sunflower

Backpack, pancake

[normal mist]

Caralho is a really good Portuguese romance word

[viral moat]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[slim copper]

Any ETA on the 11.2.5 cut of that?

[balmy condor]

the 11.2.5 cut of what

[frank pollen]

Shiv before that or before KB?

[balmy condor]

shiv before that like usual

you're just moving the vanish

[frank pollen]

Is Doulbe Jeopardy affecting DM? Since Edge Case is causing it to do things... im confused. 😵‍💫

[drifting cloud]

!dj

[prisma monolith]

Vanishing On Fatebound

• you vanish for double jeopardy, a Fatebound talent
• this causes your next flip to flip an additional coin, and this coin can be an edge-case coin
• because of this, you want to vanish when you know the next flip is an edge-case flip
• edge case flips happen as a result of pressing deathmark, kingsbane, or the two envenoms afterwards which are affected by cold blood. You can vanish before ANY of these flips.
• you should be vanishing every 3 minutes, lining up with every other deathmark, and this will also align with netherprism every 3 minutes for maximum burst

[jolly stirrup]

Ye, one of the main rteasons I love the english language

like

Donaudampfschifffahrtselektrizitätenhauptbetriebswerkbauunterbeamtengesellschaft

WTF IS THAT SHIT

[slim copper]

In the header of the fuu sheet it says 11.2.5 coming soon.

[balmy condor]

oh

just add 6 ilvl idk

what is there to see

[slim copper]

Lmao ok

Id just come here and ask you the same stupid questions whether it’s updated or not so haha

[balmy condor]

yeh I mean it's good to see bis gear

but "bis" is a crock of shit

so who cares

[slim copper]

Sim is god

Y’all Germans be doing some crazy stuff. https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8AQyxYh/

[sleek spear]

Hey guys at how many CP+ should we hit a finisher?

5+?

[molten grove]

once applied garrote and rupture to all mobs in a pack, then to apply caustic splatter to main target, should we be tabbing through the pack to apply caustic to each mob?

[normal mist]

Yes

[red schooner]

Nah, can only have one caustic up at a time, just envenom your main dude

Also you don't need rupture on all mobs in a pack

[hot pasture]

!spreadsheet

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[hot pasture]

someone now the bis gear for fatebound?

[leaden garden]

How is asa for keys atm? Really wanna get back into my rogue but not a huge fan of sub

[red schooner]

There is no real set BiS, I'd recommend just simming any potential upgrades

[lean portal]

fun and decent but your pure single target is so bad spec is nearly unplayable above 16-17s

[leaden garden]

Ah that sucks 🙁

[balmy condor]

yeah, nearly unplayable above 16-17's

when it's timed 19's and 20's

on live

truly awful

[leaden garden]

Hehe

[balmy condor]

it's averaging half a key level below sub and outlaw

actual unplayable dogshit tbh

[golden loom]

Unplayable, 0 st damage, no utility and if I napkin math the bugs deathstalker has its like -49% damage

Its only good in higher keys cause you get carried by good players.

[balmy condor]

true and real

assassination is only seen in higher keys because the assa players playing it at that level are so good at the game they make it work

and that definitely is not true for any other specs at that level

because they don't have good players playing those specs

this is exclusive to assassination

[red schooner]

We're built different. (For me, incorrectly)

[drifting cloud]

theyve actually all bought boosts

imagine how hard it was for the other 4 people

if only there was a good spec in the key

[balmy condor]

I've heard that every assassination rogue that's timed a 20 had their character piloted by hopeful

big if true

[drifting cloud]

oh thats why hes not streaming remix anymore, checks out

[red schooner]

It was 4 frost dks, clearly

[marble hemlock]

meta is a social construct. reject society. vive la resistance.

[halcyon flame]

Only thing that is good for assa in high keys is the adding of mobs on top of bosses,people are scared in lower keys to do that

Its too much to interrupt and do damage at the same time

[real pike]

This is why I take full ST build in keys including internal bleeding and just let other people do the AoE

[nova kelp]

well it's been good, but I'm changing things up with my huge DH logs tonight

[halcyon flame]

Im soo good

[red schooner]

I take IB because its bleed build, so IB is more thematic

[real pike]

Yeah it's not called spatter build is it

Clue is in the name idiots

[red schooner]

I came here to bleed people, not to do poison damage.

[real pike]

Assume you don't poison your weapons either

[red schooner]

Of course.

[lean portal]

gigachad

[spice lagoon]

bro my parses are so horrible but i follow mech and everything right in raid im not really a raider but my raid team said it takes time

[lean portal]

yea well if you are playing in a team and are insanely good at your spec you can time 20s in fire mage or affli warlock

but maybe just play arcane or destro is good

[red schooner]

But you said it was unplayable in keys above 16/17

[drifting cloud]

or maybe youre just clueless and you actually think its 3 key levels worse

[balmy condor]

I mean

aff lock has timed a +20

[red schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/deer-gif-22652112

[balmy condor]

so

true I guess

[lean portal]

if someone came and asked How is affli for keys atm? Really wanna get back into my warlock

i would answer : its bad

[balmy condor]

it's not though

[lean portal]

okay

[drifting cloud]

assa isnt affli

[balmy condor]

it's not meta, but it's totally fine

[lean portal]

aight

u guys are right

[red schooner]

Thanks

We got there in the end

[balmy condor]

I think the only dps spec that isn't doing 19's and 20's is deadass just survival hunter

and like, world first keys atm are 21's

[drifting cloud]

I think affli is worse than surv, it just has like 3 people that probably sent it for fun in the 2 keys where its actually fun

and harder to do than on surv because of the whole ranged melee dynamic I guess

when those cn teams are doing their 100 +20 to fish for keys bro is just like watch this

[balmy condor]

about the same amount of aff/survival/enhance/arms/dev/aug in 19's from what I see

[red schooner]

Yeah but surv you can harpoon into a pack and throw bombs at them. Which makes up for it

[golden loom]

And then if you are banshers you still did a 19 on surv 3 weeks ago

[balmy condor]

yah I mean balance is really good idk

the fact that specs are timing 19's and the world first keys are only 2 levels higher

is kinda nuts

[drifting cloud]

for example an affli did 20 gambit, but theres nobody that did 19 lmao

[balmy condor]

huge

[drifting cloud]

same in ecodome

and its the same dude

[balmy condor]

afflicition secretly really strong

but silly people meta chasing

don't see the vision

[drifting cloud]

but yeah the key lvl difference is just thanks to resillient

[balmy condor]

[drifting cloud]

a few weeks before season end you already know what youll need for title

then you just need a buddy that has 1 lvl higher resil than you and you just prog

or people just pay in lfg

[balmy condor]

most sane m+ players

[drifting cloud]

thats obv assuming youre good enough yourself and are only missing like 4 keys from cutoff

thats what it looked like last season on EU I think you needed 3 keys on +20

and it was always gonna be clef + motherlode + 1

[red schooner]

I wonder what itd be like if they changed title to be a 'first % to hit X score' or something, a bit like HoF.

Because it seems weird that the only time that matters is the end of season when you're fully geared/max power. Rest of the season feels pointless other than some dungeon practice

[drifting cloud]

it does but most of them enjoy m+

im sure you also have minmaxes that probably do 1/10 keys of some people and still finish within 50 io

[red schooner]

True, I'm not a m+ enjoyer so I probably don't understand the higher end m+ scene much

[drifting cloud]

for example a guildie of mine was on vacation and I saw him doing some 19-20 yesterday after coming home, 1 week before uncapped ilvl

I think playing the game for fun is against the tos or something Id have to check

[red schooner]

Yeah, last time I got dragged into higher end m+ it was a 'Jesus Christ what hell are you subjecting me to moment'. Some reward for being in the first X number to hit a set score would be interesting at least. How high can we get with lower power gear

Like a HoF/CE situation

[drifting cloud]

maybe but would just come with its own problems

[red schooner]

Yeah, like setting what the threshold is would be tricky

[drifting cloud]

whats the reward, how good is blizz at figuring out a good target unless they just make it a % of playerbase, then the non mythic raiders would complain even more how gear is important early in the season

cuz in CN you have those people that buy boosts and are literally sometimes better geared than rwf raiders and then they just push keys early on

[red schooner]

I never claimed to think my ideas through properly

I just think of a thing, go maybe this'd be neat and then watch as it gets dismantled

[drifting cloud]

sorry

I think whatever the reward would be would have the most people bitching as always

if they made it a mount the world would burn down

[red schooner]

M+ title plus another word.

Like, famed 'm+ title here because I forget what the goddamn title is'

[nova kelp]

I was 683 ilvl

[oak tangle]

saladaar got fuckign fed tonight

[jaunty notch]

ay

big damage

[strange moss]

is there a way to test personal notes on dummy with mrt?

[wheat remnant]

!bug

[prisma monolith]

Vanish->Ambush during cooldowns with Darkest Night up has two main benefits:

• Getting more mark uptime by reapplying when it's down
• Consuming Darkest Night then puts you from 3 stacks of the mark down to 2 since the mark is already applied

As of September 13th with the Echoing Reprimand Fix, that second part is broken. Blizzard inadvertantly added a bug where you cannot consume mark stacks while darkest night is active. This will hopefully get resolved quickly as it is quite impactful. Until that time, you might want to consider taking improved garrote in your single target build (instead of 1 point of vicious venoms, or instead of improved poison). You do not have to do this, and if you would like to continue to play without improved garrote, you would simply hold onto your vanish in case you drop the mark. Once the bug is fixed you would go back to vanish->ambush.

[inner crypt]

!MACRO

[prisma monolith]

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[humble verge]

lets go, socket week on my main

[midnight scroll]

same here

[humble verge]

time to boil another lake

[red schooner]

He paid for that raidbots premium and by god is he getting his moneys worth

[torn dome]

any log link

[golden loom]

Socket on warrior, rogue and dk
myth antenna on dh 🔥 🔥

[humble verge]

myth antenna on the dih

[oak tangle]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/DBW4NwVRzF1qp6Xv?fight=34&type=damage-done

[haughty pewter]

Killing forgeweaver without the 2nd damage phase and before the adds spawn at the end just hurts my soul.

[unborn rain]

whqt

sounds like a cranked group huh

[loud gull]

Can u run araz + netherprism trinkets togheter in raid ?

[real pike]

can you? yes absolutely
should you? not in the slightest

[loud gull]

Araz is myth, antenna hc

[fallen charm]

someone probably already tried this but does nexus king remove wound poison when he becomes immune?

[dense cedar]

I know what you are

[oak tangle]

hmm?

[haughty pewter]

4:45 kill time, that last guild i was in is still wiping to p1 loom.

[dense cedar]

bug abuser

[oak tangle]

what fight

[dense cedar]

the one u linked

[oak tangle]

nexus king?

[dense cedar]

ye

[oak tangle]

no bug on that

[normal mist]

That's literally what wound should be doing in theory

[dense cedar]

ur 2nd kb was 30s after the previous

[normal mist]

But it's also the first time I think about it

[dense cedar]

im just having a silly

but u defs used the quickened cd

[fallen charm]

he becomes immune to dmg but I never noticed if he removes all the debuffs

[oak tangle]

yeh i had autumn

[dense cedar]

oh that's kinda toxic yo you

[normal mist]

Paladin buddy I see

[dense cedar]

is that even like

beneficial on sin?

desyncing cb and kb like that?

[normal mist]

If your 2nd kb is up on your dm sure

I'd say

[fallen charm]

I had one try on loom yesterday where every KB was a KB+CB+DM

definetly more dmg than not waiting everytime it desyncs

[oak tangle]

it lets you dm twice before and have dm for adds

[dense cedar]

why would u dm the adds?

they live for like 10 seconds

[oak tangle]

cause amp is 1:30 later

oh im not talkign loom

im talking my saladaar

[dense cedar]

ye saladar is like

the adds

u come back down

the usually u get the hunger

[drifting cloud]

its on a fixed timer, the amp start at like 4:25

[dense cedar]

defs not a fixed timer

u can't avoid the hunger

[drifting cloud]

if you say so

[oak tangle]

but liek it is

lol

[dense cedar]

at like 10%

it just forcibly happens

[oak tangle]

adds are at 2:50

or so

so autumn lets you get another dm in

[drifting cloud]

ok you mean hc, I mean sure then you can also skip platforms

[dense cedar]

ye

this is heroic

[drifting cloud]

then I mean yeah its just all going to depends on the other people in your raid

not really a cookie cutter answer

[oak tangle]

we dont skip adds

so

🤷‍♂️

[dense cedar]

idr how to check when an enemy gets a debuff

i onlyl earned autumn existed like 2 weeks ago

never even heard of it before

show how much hpal i play

[drifting cloud]

dont worry I still dont know if its a talent or its just something they always have

[dense cedar]

i think its like

[oak tangle]

rotating skill

[dense cedar]

a captstone or something

[oak tangle]

45s cd

4 seasons

[dense cedar]

when did they even get it

worried its been around since like

bfa or something

and i just never noticed

[drifting cloud]

it was the nf ability in sl

I wanna say

but nobody played nf as pala

[dense cedar]

that'd make sense

was paladin the one with that giant venthyr blood aoe?

or was that for dk?

[oak tangle]

yeh

[drifting cloud]

yeah that was pala

[dense cedar]

fucked up button

[royal lantern]

you know the bug we had for a couple days where you could put images in the ingame chat?

[dense cedar]

ye

[royal lantern]

our Holy Paladin put the Ashen Hollow Pic in there

and said "too jumpscare the other healers"

[dense cedar]

lol

[fallen charm]

we can't have nice things

images in chat 2 days

rogue bugs, having a birthday party next weekend

back to business

have anyone tried wound poison nexus king?

[midnight scroll]

doesn't work iirc

because he heals relative to the dragon's remaining hp or something along those lines

[fallen charm]

as long as he doesn't remove the debuff it should work

but blizzard probably wouldn't allow it

if he heals at the last second then it definetly won't work since the debuff is long gone till there

[torn dome]

Cray

[unborn rain]

only 1 dps doing tank damage what is this mythical log

[earnest remnant]

talent

[dense cedar]

this week i will redeem myself by finally getting a good loomithar log

[earnest remnant]

bottom middle

[ancient ingot]

guys do we play with crimson on soulbinder?

[unborn rain]

no

its the ds raid build

copy peoples talents from wcl

[split veldt]

what do yall do on big trash packs? i struggle to hit 20m, is that normal or am i bad? i see other classes hitting 40+ and i die on the inside

😭

[analog field]

what ilvl

[split veldt]

720, bleed build

[real pike]

Only class I see regularly hitting 40m is DK

On like first pull of Gambit or some shit

[analog field]

you should be easily 20m on first pulls though

not like 40 but 20 is really doable

[split veldt]

i guess i shouldnt say i struggle to hit 20, but i struggle to go any higher

[real pike]

I tend to cap out at around 20 but I'm not great with the bleed build

Also can get unlucky on pulls like Gambit where your bleeds go on smol minions that die fast

Think Eco has the same iirc

[split veldt]

locks hitting 40m with rain of fire

[oak tangle]

the question is whether they hit 40m on each pack, cause we kinda just flat do same damage to all packs

[tired bloom]

Did you use a special build for kyveza?? Or the standard fatebound single target?

[royal lantern]

what would you do different

like, its a ST boss fight

[oak tangle]

you took wat for one of them, cause it had the slow, idk what this one does

[tired bloom]

Thinking about bigger focus on bleeds due to some downtime on a few mechanics. Maybe lower CDs on some defensives, autoattacks hurt at 699 ilvl

[vestal granite]

NoOoO yYoUU AeErREEE doIInG IT WRONG YoUU msust BE SubBTlteA RoGGUE LiEK AlL ToP GUILDS

[royal lantern]

literally nobody says that anymore....?

[vestal granite]

haha

[oak tangle]

yeah sub dooming now, fight timers to short / sin strong

[unborn rain]

u good bro?

i dont actually care btw

[oak tangle]

you dont care if they are good? toxic 😄

[unborn rain]

new era new me

its over

[oak tangle]

XD that edit tho

[pastel roost]

Hi guys, i'd like ton confirm something, when we use single Kingbane on ST target in raid ( so fatebound). We are using Shiv for the last 8 seconde of Kingsbane or do we use it when Kingsbane is at 12 sec ?

[oak tangle]

for the last 6 seconds

cause you wont get the 8s tick

so between 6-8s left

[pastel roost]

alright, seems weird but alright

[oak tangle]

why weird?

kb is a 2s tick rate

[pastel roost]

Why not use it at 8 sec left of KS anyway ? instead of 6sec

[oak tangle]

cause shiv is 8s, if you press it before, you miss the last tick

[pastel roost]

Ah got it

sorry didn't fully understand you before

[oak tangle]

np, nothing wrong with hitting it at 7.9s remaining

but anything above 8 and you wont have shiv for last tick

[pastel roost]

So we do this for single KS , but in the case of using deathmark + KS we do 1 shiv before DM+KS and 1 shiv for the last 8 sec of DM right ?

[oak tangle]

you will obvsly buff the same numebr of ticks though, it's jsut if you arent 50 capped at that time

it's cause with dm we already have capped kb

so you get double bonus of buffing bleeds from dm

[ivory flower]

what's the rate of misschance for antenna when we sim ?

[unborn rain]

theres a way to check ur own with logs

i forget how tho

[ivory flower]

i got it in vault

[unborn rain]

here u go vro

[ivory flower]

thaaanks

[unborn rain]

yw vro

[oak tangle]

i still agree with myself

wtf is antenna miss

[unborn rain]

lol

[oak tangle]

like i don't actually know, is it buff uptime? can the orbs just despawn is it that?

[unborn rain]

the wolf pfp and talking about athletes minmaxxing irl is some sort of comedy

ik u can kite them

[oak tangle]

like wtf are these

the look lined up but delayed

is bottom the proc, and top the collect?

[unborn rain]

going off my experience they can like dance around you

[haughty pewter]

Yes

[oak tangle]

so would my miss chance be 0?

cause i caught all the balls?

[unborn rain]

i guess yeah

its

[pastel roost]

Wait, is KB still bugged for the last 4sec ( basicaly the 4sec addes thanks to 2p) and going base KB damages and not buffed by stack ?

[oak tangle]

aint no bug i ever heard of

[haughty flicker]

That was old tier set bug on ptr

It's been fixed since the patch went live

[pastel roost]

Alright thanks

[orchid star]

Can any one explain how assassination rogue do most dmg (PvP)

[oak tangle]

https://discord.com/channels/124169701881282560/226359213427916800

[haughty flicker]

#pvp will be more help than anyone here

[oak tangle]

some form of deathmark on them tho i imagine

if / when i pvp, i jsut rip a fat raid opener on them

if they die they die

if not, gg go next

[haughty flicker]

Real

[storm forum]

Pretending it's just pve works until like 1900 tbh

[royal lantern]

wdym real

do you actually touch pvp?

[haughty flicker]

A couple of times I've decided I want 1800 for the mog

Then given up after 3 matches

So technically

[oak tangle]

i haven't pvp'ed since bfa when we had to get conquest chest for weapons

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/unfriend-block-discord-no-friend-not-friends-gif-22379633

[haughty flicker]

Id do significantly worse things for transmog

[oak tangle]

im not even that far in but....

[wanton spear]

took all season finally got a damn netherprism, when do you guys send it in M+?

[real pike]

With DM probably

[wanton spear]

not every dm tho right?

[real pike]

I don't know

[oak tangle]

2 min dm yes unless you have a really good reason not to

1:30 dm, every second one

[wanton spear]

so i can just macro it into dm for M+ then, glad to know

[oak tangle]

that's pull dependant

tbh

but can do

[analog field]

if you just send blindly every dm you should be ok

but ideally you can wait for big pulls etc

[wanton spear]

works for me lol, raid is every other DM tho

[oak tangle]

depends

we deathstalker on soulbinder

which would be with every dm

[wanton spear]

so anytime we fb its every other one?

[oak tangle]

ye

[wanton spear]

and obviously i run myth antenna no reason to every use lilly + prism

[oak tangle]

not for us, sub maybe

but i think they prefer araz trinket

[real pike]

'they'

[wanton spear]

yea that shit doesn't exist lol, our guild hasn't seen 1 all season

[real pike]

Blue name

[oak tangle]

XD

[real pike]

[wanton spear]

entire dps roster got myth antenna, and we still havn't seen a single forge not even on heroic

[real pike]

Bros entire roster has myth antenna and is still complaining somehow

[wanton spear]

i mean most of us got from vault lol, would be nice to see a forge hah

i got my myth antenna with speed on it first time i cleared 2 bosses from vault : P also started the season with myth lilly first week, doesn't make me any less bad. Just play worse and blizz will reward you. lol

[real pike]

I've been playing bad all season and haven't been rewarded at all

[severe meadow]

Us with leather boots from hunters

Not a single one from heroic or mythic

We see plate every week

[oak tangle]

you should swap with all our shamans and hunters

we cant drop mail boots

[severe meadow]

We have 3 hunters and 2 shamans, I think they all heroic / myth track

I’m still using normal

[wanton spear]

we got to the point of giving the leather boots to alts from heroic

[severe meadow]

Crazy work

[oak tangle]

i've only had any boots, for 3 weeks

[severe meadow]

I’m not too pressed tho, we’re rolling lockout and I’m only raid logging atp

[oak tangle]

was second last leather wearer to get them

[wanton spear]

the mail boots don't exist for us, i think all our hunters have champ track

[unborn rain]

damn alts get boots over me a main

i fucking hate my guild lol

[oak tangle]

boots really shoulda been an enchant or a token

[unborn rain]

yeah

they also shouldnt have had otherboots on loot table

[oak tangle]

would be fine if the enchant

[unborn rain]

shoulda been like amir enchant

[oak tangle]

ye

[golden loom]

Should be able to catalyze boots into them

[runic hinge]

Shoulda done something like they did with amidrassil enchant

[gaunt sigil]

Yes

[drowsy geyser]

did assa got buffed?

[balmy condor]

fatebound a little bit

[drowsy geyser]

for m+ i see more players

as assa now

[balmy condor]

nothing has changed in that regard

[drowsy geyser]

been sublety this season thinking about switching

[oak tangle]

fotms seeing it do top damage on some fights

XD

[haughty flicker]

If i play fatebound in keys I got buffed

[high berry]

bleed still the way to for keys 17+ or lower?

[midnight scroll]

finally, floodgate's been fucking me over for a while

[balmy condor]

yes, even for +20 and lower

[high berry]

thank you

[haughty flicker]

what about a +40

i need title on remix

[balmy condor]

probably

[normal mist]

dumb

you're not a tank

[haughty flicker]

buffs next week

we bac

[normal mist]

lets see what kind of buffs they give us

[haughty flicker]

also tonight guild is gonna try to do traditional keys instead of 5 tank pull to boss and afk

we see how that goes

[normal mist]

i did my 30 already, im chilling for now

[drifting cloud]

depends how many traits and key lvl you got, apparently at 200 you can live +30 as dps

so should be turbo chill next week

[normal mist]

apparently with 100% dmg reduction you can live 😛

[haughty flicker]

well

i have 43% vers so

[drifting cloud]

100% dmg reduction isnt a thing

[haughty flicker]

dr from vers caps at some point yeah

idk where but you cant get 100%

[drifting cloud]

oh sorry when I said you can live it was actually the guy can solo the key as dps

poorly worded by me

[normal mist]

smh

im no where near that stage yet

[haughty flicker]

significantly closer than me lmfao

[coral ibex]

is that the experience people are looking for?

[haughty flicker]

i just want the cape

i dont intend to grind any more power than necessary

although there is a feat of strength for getting to max i think

[jaunty sky]

Yeah same i want the cosmetics

[haughty flicker]

also why the fuck does battlenet make me log in every time

what did they break now

[coral ibex]

an indicator for controller support

[haughty flicker]

ah that would be what broke it

[sullen topaz]

ever had that in fatebound u did not get an cd reset? i vanished after dm kingsbane as usual

[normal mist]

rare, but happened to me once or twice

[pulsar dirge]

Yeah the cursed pulls

[thorn thorn]

@humble verge

[cinder steppe]

does an assa pov exist for dimensius? i have not been able to find one

[coral ibex]

prob not yet tbh most prog kills have been on sub

[lucid silo]

pretty sure @balmy condor would have one

if he's killed it

i thought he did

[coral ibex]

he has not

[lucid silo]

well at least you can get a pov of his failure

[balmy condor]

Yeh our best pull has seen the end of first platform in p2

I’ve landed on the second platform

But no further than that

[humble verge]

idk what im looking at icl

[humble verge]

we are hitting p3, but half the raid dies to drag-in soak

[coral ibex]

i am also hitting p3

mostly cleaning up platform 2

[cinder steppe]

Im just starting prog tonight, any advice for p1?

[coral ibex]

hit the boss and press feint

i dont even bother hitting the masses beyond a rupture and standing on them for caustic

use a focus shadowstep macro to cancel the knockbacks

[cinder steppe]

and the macro with focus on? a tank or dk?

[coral ibex]

a melee on your side

not the tank

[cinder steppe]

ohh okay

[coral ibex]

if you step the tank you will get knocked off by the melee knockback effect

[drifting cloud]

it doesnt knock that far, but hurts a bit

[balmy condor]

I step the boss personally and it’s not much of an issue

If you have the reaction time of a snail you might get booped a little but there’s not really any damage going out after the knockback for a couple seconds

So it’s really not an issue

I feint every knockback as well as every big soak circle spawn, those are the big damage

Otherwise you just put your puddle where you got assigned

And hit boss

[coral ibex]

ive been knocked off every time i step the boss

[haughty pewter]

Rather easy, I did it on a hunter. Found a group of people 50+ vers and we played it like a regular keystone. It was super simple, still +3'd it.

[balmy condor]

I’ve stepped nothing but the boss for 100 pulls and it’s not even gotten me close to the edge

Maybe tank positioning issue idk

I had one pull where it booped me twice in a row

That one was a little funny

But it didn’t really do that much damage

And it didn’t hinder me in getting to my spot

So idk

P1 is mega freelo

You just wait for the add killers to kill adds and the slowest people in your raid to figure out how to do a soak

It’s a vibe

[haughty pewter]

I should be on that vibe in hour 3 tonight or tomorrow. Nexus King should die tonight.

[balmy condor]

Yeh

Dimmy much more fun

[earnest remnant]

anyboss that requires you to hold dmg is immediately dumpster tier

[haughty pewter]

I'll prob stream and record dim prog to post my kill if theres not a lot of viewpoints. Although there will probably be some out there by the time we kill it.

[balmy condor]

Think a lot of people are going to reclear as assa in the next couple weeks

[haughty pewter]

That'd be nice, my parses would go up as they inflate the kill counts for the spec

[balmy condor]

Not quite how that works but praying for you

[haughty flicker]

lmao

[haughty pewter]

I don't need prayers, I need uncapped crest to increase my agility. Everytime I look at the leaderboard everyone above me has like 4-5 ilvls. If the math is mathin' im makin it happen

[past bobcat]

sin blasts

[waxen oyster]

Most people are gonna be like 721-722 ish?

[past bobcat]

lots will play it for reclear esp since boss dam is king

[waxen oyster]

with more geared people 725

[balmy condor]

putting a lot of weight on turbo boost as the great equalizer when it's probably the opposite

is pretty bold

[waxen oyster]

Yeah it isnt an equalizer

arent the people over 725 a tiny minority

[haughty pewter]

It may be, but put me with anyone on the starting block with the same engine and I love my odds.

[balmy condor]

[waxen oyster]

like unless you're like only 715 or some shit

turbo not gonna do much

[balmy condor]

I don't care if you're gods gift to rogue himself

you are simply not competing with the sub rogues swapping to assa for their 8th reclear of dimmy

it's just not happening

[waxen oyster]

i got my 99 sub araz now to play sin on it for farm right

[earnest remnant]

my 725 rogue pulling up as Assa next week

[waxen oyster]

i feel like i lost alot

having a 2nd intermission on that boss

[keen spruce]

yeah but you guys summon lizards during pull timer to cheese buffs

dirty cheaters

or was that for lusts

i don't remember yall stinky

[earnest remnant]

it was to cheese aug buffs

[keen spruce]

[thorn thorn]

[earnest remnant]

there was an wowhead post about what we did

[normal mist]

I saw it

[earnest remnant]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/mythic-assault-defeated-in-30-seconds-augmentation-evoker-stacking-334636

found it

[balmy condor]

hows it feel to be "other dps"

[earnest remnant]

great

[hollow smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/obi-wan-kenobi-of-course-i-know-him-hes-me-gif-12774102

[balmy condor]

does the alpha have the new class tree yet

[tidal hatch]

this is my first season of turbo boost so learning that each piece costs 3 dinar instead of 1 soured my hopes for it almost immediately

like why not why not let people buy a shit load of gear and trinkets the seasons basically over and were in expac waiting room

[balmy condor]

because that's not how blizzard makes money

[lusty narwhal]

The worst decision was not uncapping crests

[balmy condor]

you wanting the gear but not having the gear is why you stay subbed

[lusty narwhal]

Personally would rather be smashing Bf6 than doing dimmy prog atm

[tidal hatch]

counterpoint

me wanting the gear but not having the gear but having no intent or desire to raid in an organized fashion to get the gear means i unsub until a new season starts and there is ample dopamine for the taking

if i only had to kill soul hunters one time

wed be cookin with gas

[balmy condor]

and that's something they're willing to gamble on

because there's far less of that

that's actually almost what they did in dragonflight

and there was a huge backlash for making gear too free

so they've pulled back

[tidal hatch]

wack thing to give backlash for

all the srs guilds are done already

m+ idk whats goin on there with all the resils and high key title sales n shit

idk let people have fun

even if they cost 3 dinar why are we capped at 9 total

[balmy condor]

"srs guilds" and "high key titles sales n shit" are legit the top 0.05% of the community of people that do the content, which already removes the bottom 30-40% from the conversation

blizzard could not give a shit about either of those demographics

even remotely

[thorn thorn]

Oh im very well arware of what you did

[tidal hatch]

yes

[thorn thorn]

Stealthi is the reason I have to wait until pull to apply my shit to my dps

[tidal hatch]

i agree

[earnest remnant]

rinsed

[drifting cloud]

just tell him you hope he pities his +25 weapon