assassination

[rotund thicket]

I thought I read earlier that Deathstalker was it

[humble verge]

last seaso nyes

[midnight scroll]

in raid

every boss except soulbinder and soul hunters

[old halo]

i like deathstalker in raid but i also dont care about parses just ded bosses

[midnight scroll]

in m+ it's deathstalker all the way

[gray hazel]

Mythic lily or prism? What are your guys preferences

[midnight scroll]

i love prism, but it also sims better so even if i didn't i'd probably listen to big smart robot

[unborn rain]

prism

[charred mango]

didnt the fatebound bug get fixed today?

[main bridge]

bug (singualr) lmao

[humble verge]

this cant be real

his cape is 3rd damage

he is 703

[charred mango]

Last time I simmed I was about 5.2m and today im simming 4.6m ish, despite simming with some turbo boosted items, even without the 3 ish % bug that seems way off

[main bridge]

probably has big haste

[vagrant lantern]

!log

[prisma monolith]

Wowanalyzer now has good initial support for Assassination. We suggest using it to quickly see any big rotational mistakes and analyze your ability usage

Link: https://wowanalyzer.com/

[uneven plume]

@balmy condor fixed?

[vagrant lantern]

I am in a spot where I can't tell if I just really need to tighten up my rotation or if I'm just missing something large

[unborn rain]

post logs

[humble verge]

i need to stop

playing with french people

[vagrant lantern]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/FHd3KPQpa1m87kb9?source=4&fight=8

[unborn rain]

on dimmy u want spatter

for starters

ur opener is hella wrong

the wowhead guide has a pic with it

[vagrant lantern]

Hopefully easy enough to fix

[unborn rain]

yeah

send cold blood with kingsbane

macro them together

u normally wanna
shiv-dm-kb

[humble verge]

is there actually anyone french online, i wanna figure something out

[quiet oriole]

Is crafted dagger bugged i recrafted it and even though it shows higher ilvl my overall ilvl dropped?

[humble verge]

you sure you didnt craft intellect dagger

[quiet oriole]

I mean i recrafted the one I already had... god i hope not

[humble verge]

: D

[tacit leaf]

anyone figure this one out? similar is happening to me

[humble verge]

check the 2nd pin

but losing 600k is a lot

i only lost like 250k

[tacit leaf]

ahhhh thank you!

[limber swallow]

patchwerk simming with spatter possibly?

cuz yea, I only lost about 250k as well

[humble verge]

just sim it with internal bleeding

[rigid fable]

how much % we got in fatebound ST with this fix? any idea?

[quiet oriole]

Its just a visual bug i found out

[exotic hearth]

Does anyone have a wa for making sure my shiv covers all of my DM window? I tend to not notice with the rogue bars sometimes

[vagrant lantern]

Do I ever Shiv outside of DM > KB. Like during the gap where KB is off cooldown but DM isn't?

[unborn rain]

yeah u can send one kb usually

only

when cooldowns desync do u maybe hold

[vagrant lantern]

I try to unless I panic.

[humble verge]

3-4% loss

[unborn rain]

and u shiv the last 8 seconds of kb

[humble verge]

it literally

says that

in the pin under

[rigid fable]

lol

[unborn rain]

sin is very simple

u can make mistakes outside of execute

[unborn rain]

and be okay

[humble verge]

wtf

whispyr fixed it for us

so we get 3% back

[unborn rain]

TY WHISPYR

HAHAHAHA

I SAW THAT

oh and hit vanish between shivving and ur first envenom

[severe meadow]

2 for 2

[humble verge]

wait @balmy condor is it fixed after todays reset?

[balmy condor]

yes

[humble verge]

alr

so me simming now

wouldnt make sense or

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/4dcbmBRbZ6VJKvSFPZFtZV okay uh.

[balmy condor]

turbo ilvl is fucking with sims

[humble verge]

hm ok

cause like

[balmy condor]

yes your sim is lower

[humble verge]

this was me before raidbots fixed the bug in minus

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/neCxiNxbhzeeCTicLmfv3U

[balmy condor]

big surprise

[humble verge]

this was me start of last reset https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/qh5em7xAxSWQmLDCZx3Bqz

so 2 weeks and 1 week ago respectively

[balmy condor]

yes

so you were at 5.5

then the bug got added

you went to 5.2

and now turbo is fucking with raidbots

so you're at 4.7

[glossy dust]

mybe undergeared - theres no way hes like 710+

[humble verge]

well

its 3am

maybe its time to go to bed

btw

did u guys hit dim yet whisp

or still NK progress

nvm u are

[vagrant lantern]

Thanks. I should have a better log on Nexus King I can share later tonight

[hexed harbor]

I see they fixed 1 bug

Why not fix all 20 million of em?

[visual sun]

they cant even ship a single correct hotfix (caustic/singular) what makes u think they can do 20 mil

[severe meadow]

Is belt simming correctly or is it fucked too?

[balmy condor]

probably not

but the sim is "the belt sucks"

so

[severe meadow]

I'm simming a 2% loss with replacing it

[red zealot]

Do we just send prism regardless of stacks?

[severe meadow]

[balmy condor]

every 3 min with your vanish

[severe meadow]

wait I might be stupid

back to sim

[red zealot]

dont send on pull got it

Ripperoni

[vagrant lantern]

Dumb quesiton. During opener is it Mut > Rup > Mut > Envenom regardless of combo points, or is it Mut 5 or more?

[balmy condor]

well you can send on opener

it doesn't do anything though

[balmy condor]

you never cast a finisher with less than 5cp

[lyric crater]

nice i see they fix one of are bugs

[severe meadow]

okay yeah, .5% upgrade now

[desert epoch]

Am I reading that raidbots is simming incorrectly? I'm hoping I am!

[balmy condor]

yes, turbo boost is making it funky

[desert epoch]

Ok, thanks. Dropped drastically after I upgraded my crafted dagger and figured it must be an issue.

[severe meadow]

Funny visually losing ilvl when changing belt

[echo talon]

ìf i have Araz trinket and prism, how should i manage the CD of those?

[severe meadow]

change araz trinket

[jovial solar]

!fu

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[clever sparrow]

when servers will be up?

[clever sparrow]

double on use only works for sub not sin

[midnight scroll]

actually insane

tank kinda cracked tho???

[strange moss]

yoo anyone know what the go is with lowered ilvl in dornogal?

[balmy condor]

wdym what the go is

[vestal geyser]

!pool

[coral ibex]

isn't there some bug with crafted ilvl

[balmy condor]

you just walk out of dorn

[coral ibex]

someone in my guyild was saying they equipped a new piece and went down

[strange moss]

if u go back ilvl drops again

dornogal its 708 and in karesh its 717

[balmy condor]

relog

[strange moss]

thanks it fixed it

[clever sparrow]

anytimer about eu downtime?

i just woke up

and SERVERS ARE DOWN 😭

[normal mist]

Go back to sleep

I should also be sleeping

[clever sparrow]

its 5:30 AM

idk

[normal mist]

3am here

[clever sparrow]

i slept at 9pm like a chicken

and woke up at 3

[normal mist]

You're in the future

[clever sparrow]

YEAH 😄

[normal mist]

Poland or something?

[clever sparrow]

na middle east

😄

[normal mist]

Fair enough. Imma do what you aren't doing, imma sleep

[clever sparrow]

yeah GN mate xd

[tepid meadow]

Are the sims reflecting belt nerf

[clever sparrow]

they said servers wont be live until 11 CEST

about 7 hours

[balmy condor]

sims are fucked cause of turbo atm

if you have a max hero track belt, it's better

[tepid meadow]

Would you trust non belt things coming out of the sim

[balmy condor]

no

[tepid meadow]

Pog

Maybe I just save my crests until they update it then idk I can’t make my own decisions

[vestal geyser]

atomic phase belt is usually best right?

the raid one from plexus

[balmy condor]

sure

[vestal geyser]

lol fair

[tepid meadow]

Is the crafting bug just visual or are the stats actually fucked up

[hexed harbor]

Idk, it seems like a dev issue then lmao

[tepid meadow]

My mage homie said it doesn’t give him intellect even after relog

[balmy condor]

walk out of dorn, then relog

fixes itself

[tepid meadow]

Coo

[uneven plume]

@balmy condor Are the DS bugs fixed?

[balmy condor]

read

read

[gilded oasis]

i cant read now what

[unborn rain]

youre halfway there

[gilded oasis]

can't wait to get there

[slim copper]

i assume raidbots is broken rn?

[eager ibex]

which one for M+ and heroic raids Im a returning player

[balmy condor]

prism

ritual forge won't be used in raid

prism is the better overall

[eager ibex]

alright thank you

[clever sparrow]

PLEASE BLIZZARD RUN THE EU SERVERS I DONT WANT TO DOOMSCROLL YOUTUBE SHORTS ANYMORE 😭 😭

[coral ibex]

progging pargoth

might kill dimmy this week tbh

[whole wind]

is everyones simms massively lower today?

[clever sparrow]

bcs of turbo boost as whispyr says

its bugged

[whole wind]

my top gear prio to sending 90 this week https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/xrxonX3XgYG27PVxBV284n
my quick sim after sending https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/qXZBGjjzCEDC1w8W9QT3Hz

[whole wind]

mhmm

[tawdry halo]

3% damage boost lets go

This will surely be the difference between boss die and boss not die

[clever sparrow]

with new nerfs yeah

(on last two bosses)

[tawdry halo]

true

• all the additional tracks for trinkets / etc

[slim copper]

Hero track screams > H Empowering Crystal?

[unborn rain]

sims

[indigo mulch]

So wait, are the crests not uncapped this week?

[red schooner]

Nope

2 weeks time

[indigo mulch]

Awh

[rotund oak]

Cool 3% dps gain

stonks

[last summit]

why is fatebound bad in m+?

[rotund oak]

compared to deathstalker

[runic hinge]

Self nerfs in aoe. Locked into talents like cold blood, has to play hybrid which requires a mob to live a full kingsbane for spatter value.

And deathstalker is just baked with aoe talents

[rotund oak]

deathstalker is just more dmg in m+,fatebound is more ST focused tree

no need for a master's thesis to explain

[last summit]

thats a shame, i think the coin flipping mechanic is rly cool

[rotund oak]

u might be an outlaw and not even knowing

[buoyant herald]

Then you’ll love midnight

[runic hinge]

Midnight looks to have some changes

[last summit]

yay!

[last summit]

why's that?

[rotund oak]

because the pirate is rng-ing rolls

well not so much anymore

but still

also get real with the midnight hype,its months away

things might chance in a night to the worse

or better

[runic hinge]

Grass is always greener

[buoyant herald]

I choose positivity

[rotund oak]

also eaten by cows which hum

sheeps and other lovable animals

[runic hinge]

Sheep’s or @keen spruce

[rotund oak]

calling out the big guns

[glacial stump]

How’re you guys playing on soul hunters. Should I just be prio maintaining my dots the best I can?

[waxen oyster]

keep up rupture and ct on all 3

garrote only multi matters during IC

[odd crater]

morning guys simc are fcked up ?

[balmy condor]

PSA about fatebound sims

If your fatebound sims are much lower, you are simming on weekly/nightly and it is not updated correctly.

** ALWAYS SIM ON SIMC BUILD: LATEST**
** ALWAYS SIM ON SIMC BUILD: LATEST**
** ALWAYS SIM ON SIMC BUILD: LATEST**
** ALWAYS SIM ON SIMC BUILD: LATEST**
** ALWAYS SIM ON SIMC BUILD: LATEST**
** ALWAYS SIM ON SIMC BUILD: LATEST**

The issue is that Blizzard renamed the cold blood talent for fatebound from "inevitaBILE end" to inevitaBLE end". This change is not reflected in weekly/nightly builds yet, and so the talent simply breaks.

AGAIN FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK
** ALWAYS SIM ON SIMC BUILD: LATEST**
** ALWAYS SIM ON SIMC BUILD: LATEST**
** ALWAYS SIM ON SIMC BUILD: LATEST**
** ALWAYS SIM ON SIMC BUILD: LATEST**
** ALWAYS SIM ON SIMC BUILD: LATEST**
** ALWAYS SIM ON SIMC BUILD: LATEST**

[nova kelp]

I have a question about sims

[quiet oar]

https://tenor.com/view/bart-simpson-gif-9689736898844440650

The pin reminds me of this

[red schooner]

That pin can't affect me because I can't read

[vestal granite]

Turbo boost REALLY exaggerates why crests feel so shit, because I am punished for having used them to UPGRADE MY GEAR instead of waiting for mythic Raid pieces to drop

trash game

[jolly stirrup]

Crests are not yet uncapped right?

[whole wind]

chat where do i find latest on simc

[jolly stirrup]

Scroll down

[pure moth]

correct

[jolly stirrup]

[quiet oar]

in 2 weeks

[whole wind]

i must be blind brother, where on the page king

i found it

dw big dog

[jolly stirrup]

I knew you would find it

[main nimbus]

Quick question but what would you consider to be better ring? Celeridad=haste, critico=critic, versatilidad=versatility, parasitar=leech.

Right now i have a crafted 720 one and a heroic mastery versatility one

Sorry that text are in Spanish

[red schooner]

The only way to know would be to sim it

Because we don't know what your character already has

[main nimbus]

Im arround 39% critic, 54% mastery, 13% versatility and 15% haste

Sorry i should have taken a picture of that tol

[red schooner]

Do you know how to sim your character?/

Because that'll give you a far better answer than I can

[main nimbus]

Yes, a guild member explained to me

[quiet oar]

Where is the meme gif

with the stats

[red schooner]

I'm trying to be nice

[red schooner]

But yeah, simming it is gonna give you a far better answer than I can. I can maybe take a vibes based guess at it but... Yeah, the robot knows things

[quiet oar]

POST IT NOW

[main nimbus]

And i apreciate it, is my first season trying to min max better

Usualy i dont do mythics

[red schooner]

Any time! We all have to learn somewhere.

[red schooner]

[tidal hatch]

when did they change how raid vault works? my homie did plexus and soulbinder and logged in to the absolute god roll single vault slot myth antenna with leech and i swear he was on the verge of tears of joy

[knotty vapor]

check out my new mount

[quiet oar]

Well soulbinder is the third boss technically

so you get the items from the first 3

[red schooner]

They didn't change it, soulbinder is just the third boss technically, so killing him unlocks loot from boss 2

Same with fractilis and soul hunters

[quiet oar]

Same for killing Fractillus but, you get the Boots from Soulhunter without killing them

[main nimbus]

I will try latter when im out of work, I apreciate the help

[quiet oar]

FUCK YOU DICOMB

BEAT ME IN TYPING

[red schooner]

LOST TO SOMEONE ON A PHONE

WEAK

[quiet oar]

You have autocomplete

its unfair

Prolly had this sentenced saved

[red schooner]

I actually don't

Because I'm on a weird janky ungoogled custom ROM at the moment

[quiet oar]

Found the Linux user

[tidal hatch]

i see so instead of binking a 1/40~ he actually binked like a 1/9 or 10

still pretty lucky

[red schooner]

Don't call me out like this

[quiet oar]

https://tenor.com/view/linux-gif-25928231

This is discomb

[indigo mulch]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/vqMnmQA8fgtCJSLTNKoFGN Nightly
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/c4bQgfqmYHtfbJHMK2jmw2 latest

I don't see any difference really other than the margin of error D:

[red schooner]

I've not changed a config file on my PC in ages, I have everything set up so I'm comfy

[red schooner]

feh --bg-scale /path/to/image.file

Ezpz

[indigo mulch]

I'm pretty sure nightly is upto date whispyr. 😮

[quiet oar]

https://tenor.com/view/sudo-rm-rf-linux-bruh-chungus-poggers-gif-19024993

[indigo mulch]

^ never happend to me

nope

never

[red schooner]

Didn't even add the --no-preserve-root

[indigo mulch]

[red schooner]

Smh

[quiet oar]

drop table

[red schooner]

He missed out the option that sometimes bricked UEFI machines

Look at this nerd

[quiet oar]

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-alert-bumper-adam-devine-pitch-perfect-lame-gif-17474980

[main nimbus]

Just saying

[red schooner]

No badmouthing templeOS, RIP Terry

[main nimbus]

Im not badmouthing, if it were from me i will had changed the OS of my work computer to linux

XD

[grim jay]

Its not about there always being a difference

It just CAN happen

And one version is nearly always as it should be

So no reason to run anything other than nightly unless there is explicitly a bug or smth new

[quiet oar]

I would run to Davyn, if he wouldnt ghsot me

[grim jay]

Like rn, you gotta sim latest bcs changes that otherwise arent out yet

[grim jay]

I can proudly say I never ghosted anyone

I always told people they suck

[odd crater]

guys turbo boost quest available ?

or vendor

[quiet oar]

Dinar in 2 weeks

as is uncap crests

[quiet oar]

Me neither, im the one who gets ghosted

[odd crater]

HAHA

[quiet oar]

[grim jay]

#wowheadnews message
I knew this would happen

[grim jay]

Cant imagine anyone being dumb enough to ghost you

[red schooner]

AND YOU DIDN'T WARN ANYONE?

[quiet oar]

Oh brother

But tbf, someone who ghosts is also not mature enough, so no loss anyways

[grim jay]

https://tenor.com/view/signs-aliens-gif-11680616

THE SIGNS

[grim jay]

True and based

A gift, not a loss

[knotty vapor]

why does this randomly happen sometimes

like wildly different numbers?

[real pike]

You have an augvoker

[knotty vapor]

oh we do too

was too good to be true

[real pike]

What boss and difficulty is that

[knotty vapor]

just heroic saladbar

gotta refill my parses with the new patch

[real pike]

Ohhh new patch new parses ofc

[knotty vapor]

need some orange to make me feel good

[real pike]

The blue balls of getting 100s but it only being purp/orang when it locks in

[knotty vapor]

tru lol

[glacial stump]

ahh okay, are you still using shiv inbetween DM windows?

[woven urchin]

it's me or raidbot is broken for assa ?

[balmy condor]

pins

[sterile torrent]

does anyone know why crit vers gems sims higher for aoe than crit haste gems when im at low haste? (3000haste)

[woven urchin]

ok i'm a dick head ty Whispyr

[sterile torrent]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/ofnYMhH4RshFDzvC337f2R like i dont get this

[quiet oar]

What scenario are you trying to do

[sterile torrent]

aoe in keys

and it wants me to do more vers than haste

[quiet oar]

why wouldnt you generally use dslice

to get the whole scenario

[sterile torrent]

true

[quiet oar]

of keys

[sterile torrent]

i could to that

[quiet oar]

and iirc haste is less important for aoe, because you have more bleeds and have energy flow

[sterile torrent]

but in st i will dry out right

[muted ridge]

should I sim on weekly? not very clear from pins

[balmy condor]

haste sucks in aoe, and you simmed 8 target, where you're perma capped 100% energy

[sterile torrent]

ah okay, makes sense

[balmy condor]

[balmy condor]

to put it in perspective, CT is perma eating energy, cause sanguine is eating 24/7, right

still overcapping 15% of your bleed tick energy

63% of thistle tea energy

40% of darkest night

and that's with the CT sanguine blades alone eating more energy than all your envenom casts

the sanguine from rup/gar/ct combined is eating more energy than your entire rotation

[manic pebble]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[sterile torrent]

but wont i get giga low energy regen in ST where i dont have all the bleeds available

[analog field]

haste is practically 0 energy regen

[balmy condor]

correct, haste won't fix that though, and that is just how assa be

[sterile torrent]

roger

[red schooner]

Out of curiosity, how much haste do we need to never be energy starved?

This is information I'll never need to know or use

But I'm intrigued

Waiting for it to be like 40k haste or something wild

[halcyon flame]

100% haste

[knotty vapor]

ok this time I dont have an aug evoker

???

did it just filter all my add padding somehow

[halcyon flame]

yEP

EZ

[knotty vapor]

also why is it countin all my kills twice

wcl cooked

[sterile torrent]

the reshii boots is still good on normal when i dont have myth track boots righrt

[jaunty sky]

I think they started excluding add dmg from parses

Which pushed me to 92 average

[knotty vapor]

absolutely despicable

crying and vomiting

[jaunty sky]

Time to play fatebound everywhere except soul hunters

Which i was already doing

[balmy condor]

Somewhere between 70-80% in single target

At which point you’d most likely talent into crimson tempest and/or sanguine blades to combat the energy

And then you’d need to get another 25%ish to get around that

[normal mist]

[wild horizon]

I have the same, and if you open the log you are a 100*

Early patch

[knotty vapor]

thats just cuz its all new parses

im just talking about the numbers not matching

[wild horizon]

If you click view unfiltered damage you might find the same as your details

[knotty vapor]

yup that's it alright

tragic

what could have been...

[red schooner]

What's this in actual numbers? Like 50k haste?

I don't know the haste point to % conversion

[balmy condor]

Difficult cause of the DR shit

[jaunty sky]

i think not even every piece with both substats as haste would get you there

[balmy condor]

But it’s probably closer to 120k just off my rough guess

Yeah

With the full sanguine shit

You probably can barely reach it with lust active

The DR on secondaries basically killed all hope for ever getting that high without insane steroids

Like we are reaching numbers where we’re talking lust + pi + full haste gear to even start attempting to reach that high

It MIGHT be possible on alpha with a haste set because there’s a talent that gives an insane amount of haste after kings bane

So that + lust + pi + haste gear

You can probably get over 100%

But you’re not ever hitting close to that long term

[grim jay]

Did someone say steroids?

[red schooner]

The dream died

But, good to know, thanks!

Its information that I'll never need to know or use but I like knowing things

[nova kelp]

I'm DOING IT!

my fucking pants are still 704 though 😢

[normal mist]

Craft them!!!

[nova kelp]

that's what I think I'm doing

[normal mist]

Expansion is over anyway

[nova kelp]

if I don't get pants in the next vault I'll craft some and cata my shoulders

[knotty vapor]

does anyone look at the all star points thing on wcl?

it feels redundant

[red schooner]

Nah

[balmy condor]

Sweaty bitchless animals

[nova kelp]

I still have salad bar and dim sim mensius to go

[balmy condor]

But humans do not

[knotty vapor]

lmao

[normal mist]

I just check if I'm 1st on my server and be happy or sad

[knotty vapor]

like if they wanted a points system they could just add up all your parse percentile totals

dunno why they would bother with that weird shit

[balmy condor]

That’s kinda what all stars point does

But there’s some other shit idk

[knotty vapor]

sort of but not really yeah

[balmy condor]

All star points are strange

[midnight mist]

ye but percentile is kinda useless ranking

the all star points are actually the good ranking system

even if no one cares about it

for example

if you do like 10 dps less than r1 you will have almsot the same all star points

[knotty vapor]

dont u dare call my pretty pink numbers useless

[normal mist]

I'm second because I haven't re cleared dimensius yet :C (server rankings)

[midnight mist]

if you do half his dps, even if its a 99, you will have half his all star points

or smth like that

[knotty vapor]

i got whispyr and ipsa on my server so even if I didn't suck I'd never be top 3

[normal mist]

Oof

[knotty vapor]

actual dead server except 2 guilds and 2 rogues

feelsbad

[oak jungle]

does anyone have a WA that shows dots/debuffs on boss frames for default ui?

[knotty vapor]

i probably wouldn't bother getting used to that now if you don't have it already lol

dont give yourself a bandaid to rip off in a few months

[oak jungle]

a few months is a long time lol

[knotty vapor]

but it hurts to say goodbye

never form relationships, they might end

[oak jungle]

sounds lonely

[nova kelp]

I desperately need another 10k dps...

[red schooner]

Nah I'm on the actually dead server. Highest guild on the server is 2/8

[knotty vapor]

damn

that's tuff

is it low pop tho?

cuz we low pop

[red schooner]

6 characters killed Gally on my realm and 2 of them were boosts

[red schooner]

Yup

[knotty vapor]

aiite guess u got us beat

[nova kelp]

I'm doomed there

top guild on my server is normally near or at top 10

[knotty vapor]

how u see this btw?

i fucking hate trying to navigate wcl

[normal mist]

Instead of searching for you character name

Type your server

From there go to all stars dps after scrolling down a bit

And put mythic/heroic on the search and Rogue+spec

[knotty vapor]

lmao we got 12 rogues and I'm #10 in mythic

only 3/8

[humble verge]

gm

[knotty vapor]

I'm #2 behind whispyr in heroic tho so i got that goin for me

[hexed harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/sleepy-sleeping-sleepy-dog-perritodormido-dormido-gif-11600390426209974550

[knotty vapor]

[red schooner]

Now usurp the throne

If you take that spot you become the wowhead guide writer probably

[knotty vapor]

no id have to do that in mythic

heroic dont count

[real pike]

is this any good in m+ or nah

[solar wyvern]

Is quite bad. Did like 2% of my damage on my rat DH

[real pike]

thankies, socket it is

[humble verge]

someone bought my cloth boe boots

[real pike]

is that myth or hc?

[humble verge]

myth boots

hc are like max 30k

or idk

huge vault on my dh

[real pike]

I was gonna say

hc would sell for 60kish on my realm

so wasn't sure

[clever sparrow]

WTF IS GOING ON

anyone else have this performance issue?

like it crashes my WHOLE PC

[humble verge]

forgot to do some weeklies

and guh

i bought belt like 1,5 week ago lol

[clever sparrow]

its... disgusting tbh

xd

[humble verge]

nah its not disgusting

its boring

no upgrades fr fr

[clever sparrow]

enjoy your token

[humble verge]

(i have yet to sim)

[clever sparrow]

free socket

😄

[humble verge]

nah im prolly just picking up the ring

just for crest save

socket feels like

0 dps increase almost

well

lets see

[red schooner]

The fuck are you simming?

[clever sparrow]

BRO

[humble verge]

all of raidbots

i simmed like

most of my myth track to 730

a lot of different stuff

like 11million combos

or whatever they call it attributes

9ujiadjouiajdaw

[balmy condor]

Yeah that’s what they call it

11million 9ujiadjouiajdaw

[humble verge]

sorry

iterations

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/gMptNijir2xuzAJHa2Wxim

[balmy condor]

Nah that’s ai

It’s 9ujiadjouiajdaw

[humble verge]

your mums AI

: (

[lavish wing]

Oof

[balmy condor]

Bro did not read the pins

Time to sim again

[red schooner]

Reboil that ocean

[humble verge]

good now?

[balmy condor]

If you hit latest then yes

[quiet oar]

why would you sim so much

that seems like an Whispyr thing to do

to tell people what the bis list looks like

[balmy condor]

The ocean evaporated and then came down in a flood

[humble verge]

you think i care about the environment?

[quiet oar]

no about time/effort effiency

[humble verge]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/iFX7DAiJMDacKxGN9xSfM3

now this makes more sense

[hexed pumice]

my rogue doesn't want to eat his antenna

eat your bis

eat it

[humble verge]

seems legit.

remix keys done

[clever sparrow]

its unplayable

lol

the lag is insane i cant even turn the first quest

[jaunty sky]

You on EU?

[humble verge]

well

i cant seem to logout of retail now

wtf

[jaunty sky]

Yeah i had to alt+F4 out of my remix char

And then i couldnt log back into it

[humble verge]

hmmm

what race am i playing rogue as...

[real pike]

There is only one real answer to this question

[clever sparrow]

MAGHAR!

[humble verge]

yeah im making maghar rn

[clever sparrow]

wow i cant login in my crafter alt B)

this game sucks ngl

[humble verge]

wait

i guess

[humble verge]

i cant have the same name as my main rogue

on remix?

[clever sparrow]

nope

just change the realm

ez

i have 10 rogues with the same name

in different realms xd

[humble verge]

wtf

[clever sparrow]

restricted??

[humble verge]

idk

maybe cause im using uber

no german allowed

idk

i just called mysefl

Sergeidos

https://tenor.com/view/gryarados-gif-10358891616454584457

[grim jay]

What in the world do you think an uber is in german

It doesnt exist

[humble verge]

übermensch

[real pike]

uber alles

[grim jay]

Ye thats über tho and not uber

Uber is an english term

[real pike]

for cheap and unreliable taxis

[humble verge]

then why was i restricted reee

[real pike]

Scot

extreme xenophobia

[humble verge]

real..

oh and also yeah

i cant turn in the khadgar ques

[grim jay]

Some people bought a race change and cant use it because the legion remix button is on top of something

[humble verge]

bruh

al.r

[clever sparrow]

this game sucks

i put my dagger and wrist for recraft

now i cant pick them up from mail box

xd

[clever sparrow]

log in something else

and then retry

xd

[golden loom]

got so trolled in vault

araz and fract boots..

[humble verge]

i got araz ring

[golden loom]

got araz ring on warrior

[humble verge]

might choose the ring for fun

could get socket but

wait wtf

i realized

with that ring

i can upgrade my dawnbreaker ring to 717 for free

well.. another ocean boiled up, sorry @clever sparrow

[clever sparrow]

......

2616..

simming the whole dungeon drops?

[quiet oar]

Bro really needs help

ngl

[red schooner]

He wants that margin of error DPS gain

Really badly

[humble verge]

no, im just simming all the turbo boosts possibilities

[quiet oar]

Its pretty obvious to do Weapons, trinkets and Rings/Neck

nothign else

[golden loom]

op that the first upgrade is to 727

also got gilded achievement on alt first

[humble verge]

lol

[golden loom]

my rogue is gonna get infinitely cheaper upgrades cause of this warrior

[clever sparrow]

you like simming?

[humble verge]

https://tenor.com/view/math-confuse-numbers-gif-10041147

[clever sparrow]

sim for me now

2600 possibilities i havent seemed more than 300 possibilities at all

[quiet oar]

i didnt play any alts really this season

[humble verge]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/oLsPZtesA9efMwiSWLDRNE well well

[clever sparrow]

since i maded my rogue

xd

[clever sparrow]

alt is for the weaks

play one class and master it

[golden loom]

playing warrior on prog this week

[quiet oar]

huh

no other warrior avaiable or wat

[golden loom]

our warrior is away on sunday so im stepping in

[quiet oar]

you mean leaping

[golden loom]

charge only season

[humble verge]

wait actually

if i were to

get my crest up to turbo boost on other pieces on alts

i get a discount on that piece?

🤨

[quiet oar]

yes

[humble verge]

[quiet oar]

if you ahve the gilded achievment

[humble verge]

i do

but only on my main

or does it account for warband now

[quiet oar]

yes it account for warband

You get it once

and get discount

[golden loom]

yeah for example trinkets are cheaper on my warrior cause rogue has 2 myth trinkets

[quiet oar]

and every piece on an alt 730 gives discount on main

[golden loom]

but gloves are cheaper on rogue cause I have myth gloves on warr

and now all the turboboosted stuff ofc cause I upgraded MH and stuff on warr

so that is cheaper on rogue now

[humble verge]

so if i were to upgrade my helm here for 30 crests on my main

it'd be 20 on my alt

🤨

this guy is only 717

gotta test it ig

[spice surge]

Correct

[clever sparrow]

wear pants mate

i can see your panties

[humble verge]

wait, would it work for double trinket - or would i need to get them both to 730 to get discount

or just one

🤨

since i have both of these at 723 on my main

[quiet oar]

you need both for discount

[humble verge]

i guess both at 730 on one char as well

[quiet oar]

I mean its kinda obvious

its like the normal upgrade system

[dull bramble]

happens to so many people

you just have to wait until the game removes your character due to inactivity

aka 30 minutes. small indie company

[lusty narwhal]

Few rogues running fb on soul hunters now

Dafuk

[humble verge]

prolly just wanna make it easy for em ig

[lusty narwhal]

Yeah just, within the top 10 there is a few lol

Random

[undone slate]

so how are we using netherprism? with deathmark or with vanish?

[normal mist]

Vanish at 3 mins or every dm with DS

[humble verge]

my one and final sim

i think

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/k9yrX68EXWonzzwnLT8V1i

[tired bloom]

nice numbers, I was so happy with the bugfix I just crossed 4mil at 697 ilvl, let's see how it looks in raid.

[main bridge]

One sim to rule them all and one Uberscot to bind them

[haughty flicker]

The once and future sim

Glad to be blessed by it

[royal lantern]

dumb quick question

cloak stays at 730 right

no new upgrade for it?

[golden loom]

yeah there is something weird going on in the tooltip tho

or wait

is that enabling it to get catalyst charges? 😮

[real pike]

so are servers and zones only cooked for Legion toons/areas? or on Retail as well? am on EU

[somber oasis]

is this fix worth something in m+ Fatebound: Fixed an issue that caused the damage bonus provided by Fatebound Coin (Heads) to be 8% lower than the displayed value.

[normal mist]

No

All sims assumed that was not bugged until we found it was bugged and now it isn't bugged anymore

Fb will not be a thing in m+ this expansion

[golden loom]

yeah but you dont play fatebound in m+

[humble verge]

helps having 2 gigageared alts

[golden loom]

large and in charge

[normal mist]

Stg those swords make no sense in that model xD

[midnight mist]

looks cool tho ..

[golden loom]

🔥

[midnight mist]

wish i could have big ass swords as outlaw

[humble verge]

didnt they also make

1h warrior swords look like 2h now?

[golden loom]

in midnight fury will be able to mog 2 handers as 1 handers

[humble verge]

alr

[golden loom]

need to find a soul hunters pug with no leather wears so I can get hero boots on rogue now

[humble verge]

lol

ok

[golden loom]

otherwise I will have to make these 8/8 for a +0.5% upgrade over champ track boots

[humble verge]

unironically

the wrists from uh

nexus?

are so cool

[normal mist]

Dim

[humble verge]

oh sorry dim thne

MR KNOW IT ALL

[normal mist]

Just helping you out

[humble verge]

UNAAA

[midnight scroll]

just made a remix character, servers so fucked i couldn't log out

[unborn rain]

youve merged with the creature

[normal mist]

PLAY YOU FUCKER

[unborn rain]

cool blog post ty bro

[midnight scroll]

I CAN'T

NOTHING WORKS

[normal mist]

PLAAAAAAYYYY

[midnight scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/let-me-in-eric-andre-wanna-come-in-gif-13730108

[humble verge]

what do we think

might need to change up my weapons but

[unborn rain]

the boots look uggo

[humble verge]

ure ugly

yeah i said it

[midnight scroll]

i love the "if agent 47 were a ninja" but what's up with the hands and feet

[humble verge]

go sit in the corner

[humble verge]

idk, im burning

[unborn rain]

ik

sorry dad

[humble verge]

unc daydrinking fr fr

[golden loom]

okay okay not bad odds if boots drop in this group

[humble verge]

they wont drop

[golden loom]

[unborn rain]

sdiybt u got this

[golden loom]

the raid leader is making us do frac first

wtf

[royal lantern]

i just saw that the edge case coinflips actually visually land on their edge

[haughty flicker]

because everyone is gonna leave after soul hunters

[golden loom]

yeah but why do you name the group soul hunters until u have 30

freak behavior

[haughty flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-admiral-ackbar-its-a-trap-meme-gif-8125029

[lament bolt]

Guildie had the same issue last night, apparently he was using the cooldown manager and it was giga broken. It started working after he turned it off

[fallow canopy]

never noticed that, thats cool

[dull bramble]

does anyone know whether the infinite power buff is warband/account wide or specific to that character?

[humble verge]

lads

are we starting sub

i liked sub in legion but

not tww talents

[lament bolt]

Sub was so much fun in Legion

[humble verge]

DfA

[lament bolt]

I farmed towers enough to get the ivory hawkstrider with sub. Infinite no CD vanish and those legendary shoulders

[spice lagoon]

servers up?

[unborn rain]

real knowers know

[keen spruce]

[vestal granite]

I did a Tazavesh Streets and my now Action Button is permamently "throw bomb" even in Dornogal

The Blizzard Magic is real

from the Postmaster boss

[main bridge]

Hey they’re just a small indie company you can’t expect every patch to be perfect

[fallow canopy]

Got bricked into playing survival

[royal lantern]

WoW rule#6: Never Play on Patch Day

[nova aspen]

and then 90% of guilds raid on patch day

[vestal granite]

but like its one of those bugs where its like how is that even possible

actually might be cloak related

[royal lantern]

raiding on reset day is just cooked, idk man

[vestal granite]

Lets see how Plexus and MFO gates gna work out wish me luck reporting abck asap

[royal lantern]

never understood that

[midnight scroll]

?? anyone else have a similar issue?

[haughty flicker]

deserved for making a gnome

[main bridge]

Yeah I got it yesterday and I just made a character on another server. No idea how to fix. Seems widespread

[midnight scroll]

wait so i gotta remake the character and do everything again?

[main bridge]

Not saying you have to. That’s just how I solved the problem

I had just made my character so it was no problem for me

[golden loom]

Pretty sure you just gotta wait

[midnight scroll]

ye some guildies just told me that

[golden loom]

I think the game thinks you are logged in

[vestal granite]

I cant use my extra Action Button, but thankfully my life does not depend on it

OH SHIT PLEXUS WALL

[haughty flicker]

just cloak

or shadowstep

[vestal granite]

yep I did but now I m sitting here and I cant teleport to the next bosses

No Nexus King Platform for me either

[main bridge]

last night i used the teleport item in raid and it did not teleport me. then i got into some kind of weird state where my character was somewhere else but i appeared to remain in the same spot so i couldn't hit the boss or anything

super fun

[vestal granite]

okay so killing my character removed the stuck action button at least

[proven jasper]

Try logging into a dif character and back in or just wait, servers just exploding

[midnight scroll]

ye i waited 10-15 minutes and it works now

[wheat yacht]

Would anyone be willing to look at logs for me? I'm currently really struggling with the spec and could desperately use some help to get up to speed

[unborn rain]

post them

[wheat yacht]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/XZct8anCmzkK2NAW?fight=26&type=damage-done&source=190

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/vQ12G6hXjKbPMVm4?fight=32&type=damage-done&source=192

Theres a couple, any feedback gratefully received as I really need to step up my damage and am totally clueless at the moment

[shy creek]

The first thing I noticed is your usage of prism

[wheat yacht]

are we not lining it up with Deathmark?

[shy creek]

No, we typically only use it during 18 stacks at the 3 minute deathmark

[wheat yacht]

right, ok, that's brilliant to know, thanks

[normal mist]

deathmark only in DS

[shy creek]

Also vanish is in the wrong place

!vanish

[prisma monolith]

Vanish->Ambush during cooldowns with Darkest Night up has two main benefits:

• Getting more mark uptime by reapplying when it's down
• Consuming Darkest Night then puts you from 3 stacks of the mark down to 2 since the mark is already applied

As of September 13th with the Echoing Reprimand Fix, that second part is broken. Blizzard inadvertantly added a bug where you cannot consume mark stacks while darkest night is active. This will hopefully get resolved quickly as it is quite impactful. Until that time, you might want to consider taking improved garrote in your single target build (instead of 1 point of vicious venoms, or instead of improved poison). You do not have to do this, and if you would like to continue to play without improved garrote, you would simply hold onto your vanish in case you drop the mark. Once the bug is fixed you would go back to vanish->ambush.

[shy creek]

Mmm not that idk the command

but we only use vanish every 3 minutes with that prism

Not off CD

[wheat yacht]

right, ok

[shy creek]

For whatever reason, your garrote and rupture uptime is NOT 99%

Most likely missed it hitting a tangle or w/e

But you need close to 100% if not 100%

A lot of your envenom casts are used below 5 CP

You need to hit at 5 CP in order to trigger coins and a lot of interactions

[wheat yacht]

right, ok that's a brilliant point, thankyou

[shy creek]

edited a message above if it was confusing

[wheat yacht]

thanks yeah I saw

[shy creek]

Anyway its just basic rotational mistakes, you fix up those things, you go to the moon

[haughty flicker]

shiv before deathmark and kingsbane not after

[shy creek]

Theres some other stuff, but fix that stuff and parse will go up 50 points

[unborn rain]

u shouldnt swap to tangle unless ur ranged r inting

[haughty flicker]

on your kingsbanes without deathmark, just shiv the last 8 seconds of them

[wheat yacht]

so basically get 100% uptime on dots and stop dropping low combo point envenoms, fix my prism window to the 3 minute deathmark and go from there?

[haughty flicker]

dont shiv the start

[shy creek]

Yea

And fix the shiv thing they're saying too

That brings you to 100% parse

[wheat yacht]

yep ok, thanks @haughty flicker

[shy creek]

Assa isn't too complicated, just don't overthink it too hard

Hit on 5+ CP, and make sure your cooldown windows of shiv kb deathmark are pristine

[wheat yacht]

Thanks guys, really appreciate the time to feedback

[shy creek]

Laughing

You can ues this for fun, but if its messing with you in anyway, just unbind it

[wheat yacht]

haha ok @shy creek - appreciate it

[dense cedar]

its only heroic i suppose, but this is evil

[shy creek]

Its mythic

[unborn rain]

lol

[shy creek]

Oh you're talking about something else, apologies

Carry on

[dense cedar]

no cloak ever hmm

if not gonna use for mechs, just use to stand in stuff

[wheat yacht]

okok

[shy creek]

More accurately, if you have really nothing to use ito n, use it when she does the aoe circle that u have to get out of, to maintain uptime

[wheat yacht]

ahhh ok

[shy creek]

Granted theres plenty of stuff to use it on in p2 so make sure its up for p2

[dense cedar]

short cd

so ez fine

[wheat yacht]

That's brilliant, thanks very much all

[dense cedar]

also this is evil

[wheat yacht]

as in the amount of time on the tangle?

[dense cedar]

ye

throw like

a rupture for energy or something

otherwise ignore them

[shy creek]

^ this is optimal

[errant swallow]

That's NOT the way.

[dawn palm]

@shy creek I assume he can cloak and run through the webs to drop tether?

[shy creek]

Shadowstep to last add and run out

No reaosn to use cloak there

[dense cedar]

like ur obviously not even helping when doing that

[errant swallow]

Holy hunters

[dense cedar]

ye this is a rancid group

[shy creek]

Such is the nature of your early mythic guild

[dense cedar]

i assume this was a pug

[wheat yacht]

nope

[dense cedar]

where

is a druid

druid has 4 specs

surely you can find one druid player

[dawn palm]

We're just a developing guild, we usually have a heal druid but hes on two weeks holiday 😄

[dense cedar]

i see

[dull bramble]

remix in a nutshell lmao

[young pebble]

I feel like I must be missing something painfully obvious with Sin Trickster. Comparing my guild's M Plexus kill to somethingI pulled off Lorrgs, why am I (Cogsy) proccing Hand of Fate so much less than the other Rogue, despite similar # of envenom casts?

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/compare/3waYqZcmWH8vdyxr/7L2cdp13JjwW6fMt?fight=25&type=casts&source=1%2C208

[shy creek]

Ngl I've been looking at this log f or like 3-4 mintues

and I have no idea

Oh im tweaking

No you guys are proccing similarly

[dense cedar]

they just had more tails than heads

[shy creek]

This is just the variance in flipping coins

^

[dense cedar]

they also

kb'd and dm'd once more than you

which is a lot more edge case coins

[final lotus]

Wasted more combo points

[young pebble]

Shouldn't the actual # of casts still be roughly similar? I'm looking at the casts, not total damage coming from Hand of Fate.

[dense cedar]

few times where you are just mutilating at max cp

[shy creek]

Heads increases the damage of your finishing moves

Tails does damage

So wherever you're not hitting tails, the logs is'nt counting it as damage

Because its a buff

The latter is theirs

Which makes sense

[dense cedar]

this isn't an unreasonable difference

since you lost a kb and dm to them

plus they did more envenoms

[young pebble]

Interesting. So moral of the story - don't miss a KB/DM (whoops) and overcap CP less, then Hand of Fate just does its thing

Thanks for helping me understand.

[wanton remnant]

Hey so at what stack is it realistically good to pop netherprism?

[shy creek]

We don't think about it like this

We just send it at 3 minutes which is genrally how lonng it takes to stack

Could be anywhere from 15-18 on average

[wanton remnant]

Ahh ok cause i just got it last night

[thorn fjord]

Forge Prism Forge Prism?"

[gleaming geyser]

I am curious for those progging mythic saladbar; do you send small netherprism stacks at 1:30 in P1, dont use on platform, send full stacks during boss amp OR do you send full stacks on platform and send whatever stacks you have during amp?

I see value in either but currently sticking with platform prism because I'm kinda carrying my side's titan damage.