#assassination

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golden loom
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wish I could make a velf DH already

jaunty sky
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What classes can haranir be

golden loom
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uhh druid rogue warrior atleast

haughty flicker
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all except paladin dh dk i think?

jaunty sky
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Not DH i assume?

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Fuck

haughty flicker
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maybe not monk

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dont know about that one

golden loom
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dh is only nelf belf and soon velf, get fucked nightborne garf

haughty flicker
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ok i guess i couldve said no evoker too but i feel like

grim jay
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Shaman will really benefit from the new race

haughty flicker
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that should be obvious

grim jay
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Finally decent mog

haughty flicker
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ye shaman for them is sick

golden loom
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wonder why they cant be DK

analog field
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The bugs are irrelevant and indifferent and surely other specs have more, this doesn't change the fact the product given to the customer should not be bugged. I have exactly 0 issues with the bugs but saying to a guy yapping about them ah dont yap they are on midnight is wrong. They should be preparing midnight while maintening this game that's where i disagree.

grim jay
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Also maintaining means keeping it functionally up and running, not ironining out every single issue with low impact

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Thats just not a realistic standard

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You are paying for the content and for access to the game, which is not hindered by anything of that at all. You are not paying for everything to be perfect. garf

haughty flicker
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tww is abandonware sorry

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fated season without the affixes

onyx swift
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The bug fix for fatebound, how much more % we get with this in ST now?

keen spruce
red schooner
tired bloom
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do you use fok or mutilate on soul hunters?

red schooner
prisma monolithBOT
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Fok Conditions Post-Buff
Fan of Knives as a generator to replace ambush/mutilate:

  • Baseline 3+ targets, -1 if talented into momentum of despair and thrown precision, +1 if talented into vicious venoms, +1 if talented into blindside. (Generally 5 with raid build, 3 with Bleed m+, 2 with Hybrid m+)
    Fan of Knives with Clear the Witnesses Up:
  • Baseline 2+ targets, -1 if lingering darkness is up or you aren't talented into vicious venoms. With Vicious Venoms casting during lingering darkness is dps neutral.
    Fan of Knives with Darkest Night Up:
  • Only on 2+ targets, or without Vicious Venoms talented. This is also a very very minor optimization

The most important to remember is the generator rules, clear the witnesses and darkest night optimizations can be effectively ignored as they are not meaningful DPS improvements

red schooner
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Follow the fok rules

barren yarrow
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Is this now or midnight

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nvm

red schooner
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(I want to say SH is mostly mutilate with FoK on clear the witness stacks but I may be wrong)

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And I'd rather refer you to the bot than give you an answer and it be incorrect

tired bloom
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always mut for caustic of course

red schooner
tired bloom
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it's my least favourite fight in the current raid

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especially if pugging

red schooner
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Our tanks didn't keep them together a bunch so I muti'd a lot.

magic fossil
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Fatebound: Fixed an issue that caused the damage bonus provided by Fatebound Coin (Heads) to be 8% lower than the displayed value.

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one fixed

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2513 to go

tidal hatch
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ah so youve seen this weeks episode of task master

storm summit
severe meadow
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So not really

zenith elm
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Guys, i'm back on nexus king

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Wish me luck friends

severe meadow
zenith elm
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I think so

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My guild already pulled him multiple times, its my first time tomorrow

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Gonna be rough first pulls

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(140 times tbh)

severe meadow
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It’s not really that bad, just dodge beams, look at ghosts

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For p1 anyway

zenith elm
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P2 and 3 seems easy

glossy dust
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how do u guys gear alts? whats like the go to method besides getting guildies to boost u rq

severe meadow
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Yeah P1 is a bit of a bitch

zenith elm
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Yeah, it feels the hardest at least

glossy dust
severe meadow
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The healing should be waaay easier tho

zenith elm
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Just some to get enough ilvl

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Tru tru

severe meadow
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I was feinting everything and still getting my shit rocked

glossy dust
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do you know by chance how far u got it up? 670 ws pretty fast and i cant remember what delves dropped again

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681

tired bloom
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I focused on bountiful delves at T8, dropping 684 and 694 in vault

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also with the delve map you get 694 at the end of the delve

glossy dust
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are these possible? i remember going with my mages trough when it was fresh and t8 was somehow hard af

jaunty sky
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then instant normal raid

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and spam M+

glossy dust
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i even got into normal raid with 670 OMEGAKEKW got outrolled like hell

tired bloom
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fungal folly is easy, archival assault is also fine

glossy dust
jaunty sky
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i did my first M+ runs on my DK with 684 ilvl

glossy dust
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i see

tired bloom
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but I had more success with subtlety in delves, mobs die way faster, they don't have time to autoattack me to death

glossy dust
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good ty - i think ill delve to 680 smth and then go m+

jaunty sky
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got giga lucky in LFR but it's not good gear obv

glossy dust
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surely i can get guild to boost me trough hc on reclearkekdog

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lfr and normal was dropping as hell but people just be rolling 95+

tired bloom
severe meadow
glossy dust
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delve belt nerf is this resett right?

severe meadow
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1st run I lost two rolls to a 715 pally

jaunty sky
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yeah just gotta be lucky for that idk

tired bloom
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5 rolls in a row in normal I rolled under 30

severe silo
jaunty sky
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and then stubbornly waited for 60 gildeds to do weapon on 720 immediately

spice lagoon
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i already got a myth belt ready to go

jaunty sky
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which was ez cause i was high enough to just run premade 10s

severe silo
glossy dust
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got 3 sparks laying around with 1 for weapon used allready

spice lagoon
jaunty sky
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so i waited for gilded crests

glossy dust
spice lagoon
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i usally do 3-4 crafts but even 4crafts is to much

glossy dust
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i have to come with a excuse or smth

jaunty sky
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which are easy to get bc Frost DK is super meta RN and u get invites really easily

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even with lower gear

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or at least i did back then

spice lagoon
jaunty sky
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it's harder to get into keys on my 715 rogue than my like 710 dk

spice lagoon
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on fdk

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vault is at 11:00 ?

jaunty sky
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i maybe should've done my lil 3k push on DK tbh

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less waiting

spice lagoon
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its def possible with fdk and easier

jaunty sky
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i was 2.6k week one with assa

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and then i took a break

spice lagoon
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samee waiting on that legion tbh

jaunty sky
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now I'm only missing ara kara 12 for maybe a perfect 3k finish

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would be sick tbh

main bridge
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You can do better than 3k

jaunty sky
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yeah but for what

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no rewards behind it

spice lagoon
main bridge
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For the achievement. To be better than you were yesterday

jaunty sky
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i'd rather play remix this month and a lot of PoE next month

jaunty sky
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yeah

spice lagoon
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hopefully next xpac something is more rewarding going higher

severe meadow
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Hell yeah

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New league?

jaunty sky
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yeah new league 31st

severe meadow
jaunty sky
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I'm gonna take time off the week after

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my boss said i should take one sometime soon

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ezpz

severe meadow
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I dumped like 600 hours in the previous league

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Shit banged

jaunty sky
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i think i had like 250

severe meadow
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Was my first league having a double corrupt mageblood

jaunty sky
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wanted to do more tbh but the upgrades were too far out

severe meadow
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Had a lot of fun

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I was around 2 mirrors and wasn’t much more I could do

gritty laurel
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i'm ready for them to backport the asynchronous trade to poe1

severe meadow
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On god

jaunty sky
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i REALLY hope they get that in

severe meadow
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Top QOL they’ve added since the market

jaunty sky
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i got my first lvl 100 last league

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cause i actually pushed for it for the first time

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if they don't change Pathfinder and that new whispers amulet I'll just play viper strike of mamba again

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but ES this time

gritty laurel
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i tried cws for the first time and it was hilarious

jaunty sky
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oh i did that on league start in a private league

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was kinda fun

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ultimatum is really good money

zenith elm
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I wanna play remix but i'm stuck in the mythic timeloop

glossy dust
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is there a cap on bountiful delves or do they just appear here and there? the nromal delves dont drop shitkekdog

haughty flicker
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4 delves are bountiful each day

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each can be completed once

main bridge
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They’re all in the Tazavesh market portal area too

glossy dust
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damn that aint much

tidal hatch
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then prioritize crafting a weapon

gritty laurel
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yeah, the main use of delves is week 1 gearing and getting some gilded crests+hero drops each week

tidal hatch
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takes like an hour or two

glossy dust
tidal hatch
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if you really want to be a rat you then host a heroic aotc only group and dont invite anyone who is on your tier or armor class

glossy dust
tidal hatch
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oh yeah and your weekly delvers bounty map is a big one

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youd be surprised

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i have hosted many of those aforementioned alt runs

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just hosting the group and putting big pumpers in the name usually is enough to get by

glossy dust
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well gota be lucky then a bit with delves

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4 to get enough to 690

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seems hard

tidal hatch
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google shireking quartz

glossy dust
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oh do u know the ilvl for the undercoin stuff

tidal hatch
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vet track

glossy dust
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i mean thats good enough to start running m+

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have free upgrades up anyway from main

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is there a reason why you pay the smaller upgrades even tho u have the big upgrades on main?

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with the smaller crests

tawdry root
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Is the DISC belt nerfed today or when crests get uncapped?

pure moth
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Today

unborn rain
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are servers up yet

haughty flicker
tawdry root
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Sad, gotta waste crests on my mythic belt now

unborn rain
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u should prob upgrade slots w better budget first

spice lagoon
haughty flicker
weary stump
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garf rik reverb sponsors this legion remix

unborn rain
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i went to bed at 3 am to wake up late n i woke up at 6

dull bramble
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hey gang. this might be a stupid question but what is the point of slice and dice if it just happens passively? should I take that off my hotbar? (I'm still leveling so don't rogue shame me)

dull bramble
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since im already on it with the possibly stupid questions- do I need distract on my hotbar if I intend to use the character purely for pve ?

red schooner
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Like if you're in a dungeon and there's a patrol being annoying, you can distract the patrol to make them stop

dense cedar
red schooner
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Not an essential button at all but occasionally its nice

dense cedar
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like

midnight scroll
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how long does distract even last

dense cedar
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you don't wanna wipe just becasue you didn't have it bound yaknow

dull bramble
dense cedar
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u sometimes get tanks that don't notice a patrol about to walk onto them

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can do this to prevent it

dull bramble
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very slay indeed. I kinda like assa so far. very much affliction core but make it melee

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juggle your dots and bleeds and keep stabbing lol

dense cedar
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affliction cool

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they getting rid of my fav button tho...

dull bramble
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which one is that ?

dense cedar
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Malefic Rapture

haughty flicker
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saying you like rapture might constitute capital punishment

dense cedar
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don't play aff at a high enough level i suppose

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to get the hate for it

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seems like very sensible button to me

dull bramble
fluid dust
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
dull bramble
dense cedar
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Unstable Affliction as the spender was so fucking boring

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malefic rapture at least has gameplay

dull bramble
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oh im an idiot

dense cedar
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rewarded for managing all ur dots well

dull bramble
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I thought you mean rapture rapture

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nvm lmfao

haughty flicker
dull bramble
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😭 I was like what does fucking rapture have to do with anything

dense cedar
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like i haven't looked over all they're doing for aff

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but how can there be a more interesting and simple button than it

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does damage when u have dots

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press a lot when lots of dots

dull bramble
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I should read up on what's happening to assa in midnight. I love the spec as it is rn

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well as far as leveling goes anyway. no clue about endgame

dense cedar
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sin changes for midnight quite good

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Tree just kinda wack

wise whale
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cock tbh

dull bramble
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the what now

wise whale
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yes

tranquil cobalt
spice surge
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Practically the same as now

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You just envenoms

tawdry root
jaunty sky
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I was gonna say, we never had an AoE spender

royal lantern
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right now

dense cedar
royal lantern
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you use it for the dot and thats kinda it

dense cedar
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healthier spot then back then too

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since poison bomb as our aoe

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veru dumb design

tranquil cobalt
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The spatter change is super nice

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I am not the biggest pooling enjoyer but we will see how it feels

royal lantern
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mate, that was like

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Legion

royal lantern
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idk, PB as AoE tool has not been a thing for 10 years now

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its literally just a generic dmg proc

subtle tundra
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MIAU

subtle tundra
unborn rain
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servers r up

jolly stirrup
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Guys any tipps on Mythic ARAZ as Assa?

static glacier
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I guess ask your rl to keep your dm target on the lil adds and walk the other big add out instead of the reverse

static glacier
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Pb used to CRANK the mass aoe sometimes

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Idk though this was pre rework sin

oak tangle
royal lantern
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ignore echo spawn, just follow boss and hit it

unborn rain
oak tangle
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fr fr tho, i can log in, just no servers

somber sparrow
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going to be closer to 3 pm eastern to login if all goes well

haughty flicker
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normally i'd doom and say its gonna be 2 hours later than whatever time is posted

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but blizzard has actually been leaning towards the opposite recently

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to be fair to them

oak tangle
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it's 1 am for me

haughty flicker
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so maybe it comes up a couple hours early

oak tangle
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will it be up before i sleep

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nobody knows

haughty flicker
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well scheduled time is like 7 hours from now

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so go sleep now ez

oak tangle
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i wish i could

haughty flicker
oak tangle
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imsonmia a bitch

haughty flicker
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real

oak tangle
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once i sleep, i sleep

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but i dont sleep

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🙁

royal lantern
unborn rain
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yeah my insomnia sucks

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i usually sleep every other day

oak tangle
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it's like i am awake for 20 hours a day and sleep for 8

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and somewhere in there, is a day of not sleeping in the week

unborn rain
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i know what u mean

glossy dust
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just sleep 5 and be tired regardless

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works great for me

main bridge
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in the book Why We Sleep by Matthew Walker he speculates that lack of sleep can lead to Alzheimer's disease

humble verge
glossy dust
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can - so we safe

weary stump
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They aren't hallucinations I swear

main bridge
unborn rain
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the lion doesnt concern herself with the shadow people

weary stump
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The shadow people tell me to go gamble my gold

oak tangle
glossy dust
oak tangle
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i envy friends and family, that put hteir head on a pillow and fall asleep

unborn rain
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real

magic fossil
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@oak tangle we have a shit ton of legal and illegal drugs, just pick one and good night

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or do exercise and eat better whatever works for normal people

oak tangle
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it's a combo of adhd and insomnia, melanin didnt work for me

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rather not live on a cocktail

unborn rain
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yeah

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(i dont have a choice)

royal lantern
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you said cock

unborn rain
royal lantern
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i should get some sleep

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sleep deprived brain is more dumb then ussual

unborn rain
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stay awake sillymax

oak tangle
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unironically, about the only thing that makes me tired is a fuckload of carbs in a meal

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big chicken parmi essentially sleeping pills

unborn rain
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gut issues can cause sleeping issues

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tbh gut issues usually responsible for most issues

oak tangle
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living that life atm too...

unborn rain
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noo

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patpat

oak tangle
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randomly developed lactose and fructose intolerance last year

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it like, removes nearly all foods

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proteins and simple veg about my only options

mossy sundial
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Only if you don't want the will power to endure

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That ice cream is calling you

oak tangle
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yeah i sometimes just eat what i want, and pay the price

unborn rain
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dude lactose intolerance is the worst

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you should try that skimmed milk tech

oak tangle
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i've been on oat milk, it's actually quite nice

unborn rain
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that like restimulates lactase growth

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or sumn

spice spire
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I also do better with like fair life and shit over normal milk.
That only really comes into play when I’m making ice cream tho

unborn rain
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you make ice cream?

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giga based

spice spire
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Yeah with a creami type shit,
I have a small difference in protein and kcal intake so every single gain I can take I will,

oak tangle
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i tried lactose free milk, still had issues, so had to go entirely non milk

unborn rain
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rip bro

main bridge
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Lack of sleep causes all kinds of issues including higher insulin resistance so it can even make you fatter

unborn rain
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there is some science on reducing lactose intolerance but off the top of my head i cant rly recall

soft drift
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Is the fatebound heads glitch fixed yet? I saw a forum post on Max's stream but can't find it anywhere

unborn rain
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should be live on reset

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the fix

oak tangle
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whispyr is holding his post, before verifying it works

soft drift
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Is it in the 11.2.5 patch notes?

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Ahh okay

unborn rain
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yuh

oak tangle
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if it does work, post, if not work, no post

rotund oak
ancient ingot
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guys someone know how can i remove the distance between the bars In dbm?

jolly stirrup
analog field
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you can stay on first echo to help if needed but afterwards just go on boss

jolly stirrup
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I will try this

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We started Araz prog yesterday, so a lot of time to experiment

royal lantern
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you play spatter cus like

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hey, you still do some cleave

jolly stirrup
royal lantern
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and internal bleeding is kinda a meme

jolly stirrup
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good to know

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I thought maybe the boss is too far away

royal lantern
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you just slam boss

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use cds on cd

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except during pylons

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and thats kinda it tbh

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FoK once when adds spawns if you need the slow from crippling

severe meadow
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Little energy back when it dies

clever sparrow
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is this a unicorn am i seeing?

waxen oyster
clever sparrow
waxen oyster
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only the mh

clever sparrow
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but why tf his oldest ahievment is for 2022

quaint sequoia
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I'm trying to macro Belf racial to Mut, but I don't get it to work, any tips

quaint sequoia
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well that's aids

waxen oyster
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press it twice

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belf sucks anyway

waxen oyster
oak tangle
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I’ll be interested to see internal bleeding damage with the new midnight build

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Lil sneaky extra dot in aoe

clever sparrow
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no other reason

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lol

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throw it out on assa

waxen oyster
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people talent shiv on sub?

haughty flicker
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i use belf racial as a placebo to make me feel like im influencing my energy in any useful way whatsoever

midnight scroll
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that's not placebo that's just gaslighting

unborn rain
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its the same thing champ

mossy sundial
unborn rain
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are servers up yet

midnight scroll
unborn rain
unborn rain
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lol muffins a midge

main bridge
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i have a cute little katana though

unborn rain
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tru sry king

weary stump
subtle tundra
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touch my buttocks

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with em dogs

rotund oak
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sup babe

unborn rain
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thats hella freaky bro good for you

rotund oak
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freaky doesnt start to describe varas

errant hawk
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!simguide

prisma monolithBOT
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Guide to Simming yourself: https://www.wowhead.com/how-to-use-raidbots-sims-stat-weights

For more accurate results you should always sim yourself using Top Gear for gear you already have in your bags
or Droptimizer to see which content drops the biggest upgrade for you. Do not use Stat Weights sims to evaluate gear.

subtle tundra
subtle tundra
unborn rain
jolly stirrup
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time to craft belt tomorrow NODDERS

calm ibex
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Boiz what talents are we running for Soulhunters ?

unborn rain
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bweed buiwd

calm ibex
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Like m+ bleed?

unborn rain
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i think so

severe meadow
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Yes

unborn rain
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u can copy ppls talents off warcraft logs usually what i do

calm ibex
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ty

jaunty sky
severe meadow
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Rupture everything, keep garrote on main

calm ibex
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Yeah logs are bnanned in my country so chalked tbh

unborn rain
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what

calm ibex
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UAE vibes

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The page never loads

unborn rain
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dats insane that sux mayn

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are u able to play wow over there

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sorry for ignorance

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dawg r u risking ur life for parses

calm ibex
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XD

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Yeah its not an issue to play online games here

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just an issue with like exitlag vpn's etc

clever sparrow
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how much cd does human racial have?

calm ibex
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and i dont know why logs are cooked here

clever sparrow
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i dont have any human

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that medalion thingy

unborn rain
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oh okay i was wondering cuz like of some stuff in game like alcohol

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are servers up yet

royal lantern
waxen oyster
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longer than that

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pretty sure human got made into stun break in legion

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so 9 years ago

royal lantern
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oh wait, mixed it up with the 2nd hearthstone

hasty estuary
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Have they fixed more bugs than the one written on the blue note or the entire patch for us is just that?

errant swallow
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Probably not, just that.

golden quail
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Probably a higher chance of it being just a patch note and not actually implemented then there being other fixes not listed

clever sparrow
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IN MY FKING 14

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everyone dc'd

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what is this sht show

dense cove
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Does anyone know what item level on main gives you gilded crest discounts on alts?

fresh kelp
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720 average

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And then the discount is calculated on a per slot basis

desert pasture
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were the m+ impacting bugs fixed today does anyone know or just the heads/tails thing

main bridge
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How is anyone gonna know when the servers aren’t up

desert pasture
main bridge
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RIP

glossy dust
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does the dinar kill boss on main work for alts aswell?

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being eligible to buy

ionic gazelle
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Crit: 21,054
Haste: 1,153
Mastery: 25,220
Versatility: 8,575

hello guys is it fine to play with 1k haste or should i reduce my mast and crit ?

balmy condor
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Sim

ionic gazelle
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true

proven saddle
glossy dust
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🙂

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shit

lyric vale
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Yep

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Unending grind

glossy dust
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but exp is somewhat over so mybe idk people will still go with alts

ionic gazelle
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bro i simmed the shit out of it but it doesn't change XD

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maybe 0.2% nothing more

normal mist
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then you're good to go

lyric vale
ionic gazelle
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but checked the first 15 log of the mythic fractillus and the summary of those sin rogues were like this

Crit: 17.882,0
Haste: 7.174,9
Mastery: 19.991,6
Versatility: 9.408,1

unborn rain
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secondaries dont matter

normal mist
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secundaries literally do not matter

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just sim the gear you have on your bags

limber dew
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Yeah watch whispyrs video.

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I don't have min max and hit a rank 26 fract.

ionic gazelle
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yeap always doing it, i was just curious

shy creek
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So some of their best gear just has vers

waxen oyster
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I mean you just want vers

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because everything good

haughty flicker
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Vers dn

main bridge
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If you’re comparing your stats to other people then I think you fundamentally do not understand sims and why we use them

waxen oyster
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really only your necks and rings change betwen specs

#

so many slots are taken this tier

lyric vale
#

I feel like tmrw when they fix head coin bug they gonna add someother bugs too

unborn rain
#

servers up

lyric vale
#

Show off ur vault na people

#

Give me hope

waxen oyster
#

its work hours

normal mist
#

people are on lemix bro

#

no vaults today

unborn rain
#

fuck lemix

haughty flicker
#

People aren't on anything

main bridge
#

@normal mist ban the vault baiter

unborn rain
#

no mage tower ahh

normal mist
waxen oyster
normal mist
unborn rain
normal mist
#

not the sargerei new sets

waxen oyster
#

ok the sargerei sets

#

thats it really

unborn rain
#

couldnt be bothered to pay an artist 5 dollars to make new tints

normal mist
#

those cloaks are worth the grind imo

unborn rain
#

yeah

waxen oyster
#

atp

normal mist
#

im still wondering what to play tomorrow

waxen oyster
#

vault has nothing good

normal mist
#

I'm not gonna play a rogue again, did that on mop

waxen oyster
#

everyhing from vault is like

#

0.3% upgrade

#

at most

limber dew
#

If rogue was not bugged to shit assa would be pumping and noone would be moaning

runic hinge
lyric vale
runic hinge
#

did someone say feet

waxen oyster
#

have you tried

haughty flicker
haughty flicker
#

Even just beetles alone

waxen oyster
#

skill issue

haughty flicker
#

Ez

runic hinge
#

if you have to

waxen oyster
#

me when i have myth

#

of all 3

runic hinge
#

certainly dont know how paul mcartney is keeping us from pumping

unborn rain
#

hes making u go to sleep with his majestic voice

#

are servers up yet

haughty flicker
#

Me when I know Paul McCartney is the source of all assa issues but I can't prove it

waxen oyster
#

atp

#

i am basically sidegrades pov

unborn rain
#

there is a direct correlation between listening to the beatles during raid and getting 1 minute deathmarks

waxen oyster
#

true and real

main bridge
#

what do you mean you have a bunch of hero pieces

waxen oyster
#

i have a 714 belt in bags

#

only hero item is the ring and neck

#

i actually have a myth logic alpha but its not an upgrade for sub spec

main bridge
#

and bracers

waxen oyster
#

yeah bracer is sidegrade

#

i dont have enough gilded to send a crafted ring then upgrade logic alpha to 720

main bridge
#

pretty unlikely that heroic bracers are a sidegrade to crafted, especially after turbo boost

waxen oyster
#

literally sitting on 3 sparks lmao

waxen oyster
#

braces probably very last alongside oh

real pike
#

dudes does atrophic poison not stack any more???

#

need a quick answer am in an argument

normal mist
#

I'm pretty sure there was no new info regarding that

#

which probably means it still stacks

harsh helm
#

Hey guys, never really played rogue before but really like the assassination fantasy. I hear a lot of people saying rogue is weak right now but will it be good enough for Legion remix, to get everything and solo stuff?

real pike
#

a guildie is insistent it doesn't stack

#

but I am unsure

#

I thought it did

normal mist
#

nevermind

#

just confirmed it

#

@real pike

#

it seems fixed

real pike
#

thank you sir

normal mist
golden loom
#

Previous was a platform pull sorry

#

This is a early p1 Nexus king wipe

real pike
#

what am I looking at sorry I'm smooth brained

normal mist
#

@spice surge

golden loom
#

Ah

#

Well yeah idk I thought it still stacked

haughty flicker
#

yeah it shows weird stuff with devo aura too if you have multiple paladins

harsh helm
normal mist
waxen oyster
#

smart thing is to play a hybrid class for your main farmer

#

for faster dungeon queues

harsh helm
#

I will defintely do a tank alt, but I really want to play a rogue (specifically an assassin) honestly. As long as its fine and not really bad Im going for it. I want the class fantasy and the legion hall order for it

unborn rain
#

are the servers up yet

fathom mirage
#

How bad is assa bugged right now? Like unplayable or should i not care about it and go for it

main bridge
#

most people would not know it is bugged if not for the videos people made

haughty flicker
#

or until they put on the tier set

fathom mirage
#

I really wanna play assa, maybe i shouldnt care about it

ionic hill
#

first time hearing its bugged lol

main bridge
#

you won't even notice most of the bugs

#

not all of them impact you negatively either

ionic hill
#

Huh

#

I thought only outlaw was bugged but yeah that just proves you wont even notice indeed

severe meadow
#

Outside of CDs desyncing nothing is noticeable

main bridge
#

all three specs have bugs, as do many classes

ionic hill
coral ibex
#

you would never know assa is bugged if content creators didn't spread literal misinformation

coral ibex
#

5% of your caustic damage

#

assuming you do 2b caustic damage in a key (you will do less than that)

#

its 100m singular focus damage lost

#

over 30 minute key

#

thats 55,555 dps

unborn rain
#

also tier lists are based on very small % differences at the 99pct

#

well besides ret

#

auto f tier

normal mist
#

not playing a class because of a tier list

#

is a meme

#

a really stupid meme

#

"that guy on twitter said rogue bad so i wont play it"

limber dew
#

I love assa rogue. I had the fact we are bugged and weaker than we can be

normal mist
#

and we're STILL topping metters in m+

#

if you're literally not playing VS the best players in the world of the really op classes

shut mulch
#

Guys fatebound is so back after today's bug fix??

red schooner
#

Can't be back if it never left.

old obsidian
#

??????

shut mulch
#

So huge

#

Massive

desert epoch
#

Anyone know what that will mean overall?

old obsidian
#

8% damage on cd (?) nah idk

midnight scroll
#

it's around 3% overall

unborn rain
#

are the servers up

haughty flicker
#

yes

shut mulch
#

the servers are the opposite of up

#

forget what call

haughty flicker
#

yes

spice spire
red schooner
haughty flicker
mossy sundial
midnight scroll
fallen charm
#

this is what happens when they try to fix 1 spell

#

not counting what new bugs we are going to get in return

quiet oriole
#

Blizzard when they touch rogue...

pulsar orbit
#

one of the best rogues in the world is playing his alt in the MDI, everythings fine

royal lantern
pulsar orbit
#

theres a distinct gap, relax

#

theres like 1 other rogue in the entire tournament lol

buoyant herald
#

I mean…dudes trying to win MDI are going to play what they think is the best comp 99% of the time, comfort picks might change that up slightly

#

Rogue has been slightly off meta / comfort pick / dungeon specific for a decent part of this xpac, could be worse

pulsar orbit
#

comfort and viability are two separate concepts

waxen oyster
#

It's almost like tournament play

pulsar orbit
#

show me a clip of a rogue doing a 20+ key whos dmg isnt being absolutely carried by the rest of the team

waxen oyster
#

is a different environment

buoyant herald
#

I’m not sure what your point is, maybe I didn’t scroll up enough

waxen oyster
#

Let me pull up the 3x same dps metas

#

those are infinitely worse

buoyant herald
#

Are we just upset that rogue isn’t a huge meta pick right now

waxen oyster
#

Yeah bro needs it for his pug invites

#

clearly

pulsar orbit
#

the "huge meta" is like 9 other dps classes lol

buoyant herald
#

Is it though

waxen oyster
#

its like fdk havoc arcane

#

bm

buoyant herald
#

Ele sham, hunter, arcane, havoc, fdk

waxen oyster
#

so 4

buoyant herald
#

Even ele sham is arguable, but again one crazy savant is making it look incredible

waxen oyster
#

Also why do people complain about something

#

in content they'll never do

#

this is like if i complained about rwf comps

buoyant herald
#

Well

#

I think that’s missing the mark a bit too

pulsar orbit
#

its the balance issues that im ribbing dude, no patching is going to make me a CE raider lol

buoyant herald
#

Because the community in general are clowns who think whatever the top players do is best for them too

waxen oyster
#

balance issues that affect the minority of people at the very top

#

ig zac is just being carried in every key he does

#

@midnight mist confirm?

pulsar orbit
#

the caustic spatter "fix" with no supplement behind it only effects the top 1%?

waxen oyster
#

its like 3%

haughty flicker
waxen oyster
#

yeah but outlaw is even worse than sin

#

like outlaw is genuinely a bit down bad

#

we really saying 9 other dps classes when its 4-5 max

#

kind of crazy im seeing the same 4-5 dps specs in all the highest

#

Idk people complaining about content they'll never be good enough to do

#

is crazy to me

buoyant herald
#

Assass was looking like being the top dps spec during beta testing before bugs etc popped up, I just wonder if balance at the top end would have been an issue if it was still in that position

waxen oyster
pulsar orbit
#

no if the issue wasn't an issue it wouldn't be an issue. brilliant

normal mist
#

The same community that fails mechanics and pop CD's during transitions

buoyant herald
#

Ok let me rephrase then

#

Would The Issue be brought up if assass was still in that position

red schooner
#

wtf

normal mist
#

the same community that can't have uptime

waxen oyster
#

It's an issue for people at the very top who are competing.

#

not for randoms who still brick 15s/16s

pulsar orbit
#

it was a joke statement, and you're being an apologist for your class being scrubbed out of any "desirable" comp entirely.

buoyant herald
#

Idk man not trying to yap back, but mate there are like 27 dps specs or some shit

waxen oyster
buoyant herald
#

There are maybe 3-5 meta spots for big keys

waxen oyster
#

Why are you pretending you're MDI level

pulsar orbit
#

how am I?

static glacier
main bridge
#

i got declined from a key which means rogue is bad

waxen oyster
#

people forget viable means it can do the content

pulsar orbit
#

performance ceilings don't scale down and translate at all to every level of play?

waxen oyster
#

and think viable=must be the absolute best

static glacier
#

Unless you just added a 10-15% aura buff it was always going to be sub

buoyant herald
cloud loom
#

QQ regarding ambush and fan of knives procs: should I spend them as soon as I notice or should I hold them in order to try not to overcap combo points? (Mythic+ bleed build)

red schooner
buoyant herald
#

That’s just kinda how the spec is

waxen oyster
static glacier
waxen oyster
#

its a detriment when you are in direct competition with another team

static glacier
#

But stuff like dimmy holding dps fucks sin much harder than sub

waxen oyster
#

people thinking rogue might be 3% worse damage than dk means they cant get title or some shit

buoyant herald
#

If it bothered me that much I’d go play one of the other 27 dps specs

normal mist
buoyant herald
#

Except sub fuck sub

#

Don’t @ me

waxen oyster
#

everyone talks about the assa bugs

#

as if they wouldnt have noticed it without streamers using it for clickbait

#

but i guess everyone wants to blame something else

#

besides they suck themselves

midnight mist
# waxen oyster <@352916297262301194> confirm?

well, im lucky i found people that dont care about specs, because i think half the specs in the game instead of outlaw is better, outlaw prolly one of the worse high key spec this season

#

it is what it is

waxen oyster
#

yeah outlaw is even more down bad than sin

waxen oyster
#

It's kind of like how most players like to use "funnel" as a buzzword.

fallen charm
#

bug or no bug, at the end the only thing that matter are numbers

waxen oyster
#

While barely understanding wtf funnel damage is

#

What's that thing called again where you try to repeat words someone smarter said

buoyant herald
#

Idk it all just seems so simple to me. Do you want to play you favourite spec and it’s bad? Either deal with the difficulties that brings or reroll. Just depends what’s more important to you

waxen oyster
#

to pretend to be smart

fallen charm
#

are you trying to sabotage the only thing we are suposed to bring to a group?

buoyant herald
#

Blizz already did that garf_sit

waxen oyster
#

No im more talking people that pretend sub is a funnel spec

#

when in fact it just nukes shitters killing funnel

#

rather than providing

#

You can tell which spec the community perceives as good by checking which channel has the most "didnt read the guide" questions in it.

buoyant herald
#

The answer is mage, it’s always mage

#

If only because BM and FDK you don’t need to read a guide

waxen oyster
#

i've seen some fdks

#

who do mid damage

#

but yeah its a pretty hard spec to fuck up

jaunty sky
#

I have seen some doing tank dmg

waxen oyster
#

its not like mage players who are competing with the tank on dps

#

i feel alot of players just dont understand "hit something every gcd"

jaunty sky
#

Or try to not overcap any resource

static glacier
#

It’s technically true but it’s so cooked

#

Low-key I wonder if you ever get more than 2 dances between blades with extra targets, I feel like you would but actually idk

waxen oyster
#

probably some streamer said it

#

so other people pretend they smart repeating it

jaunty sky
#

Didnt sub have funnel at some point ages ago

#

Like shadowlands or bfa

#

A lot of ppl just dont know what specs do

#

Especially for ones they dont play

#

And how often do u actually see rogues in m+

tidal hatch
#

where are the remix servers

jaunty sky
#

Im keeping em in my basement

#

Youll get em when i wake up tomorrow

balmy condor
#

We’re all playing remix right now actually where are you bro

tidal hatch
#

i see timerunner characters are just on normal servers

cyan surge
#

Every key I'm in there's a rogue(I'm the rogue)

But on a serious note, I haven't played sub keys since S1 DF. Has it changed from big crit secret technique and shuriken storm to spam evis for funnel?

royal lantern
#

or the bug that made flips generate cp

#

oh wait, those are positive, lets not complain about those :333333

#

but singular focus doing a bit less dmg is the end of the world

waxen oyster
#

hey fb bug is a dps gain

#

if you proc it at a good time

pliant remnant
#

Nothing makes me more upset while playing Assassination than Assassination being better than it's supposed to be

#

It really just...boils my piss

balmy condor
#

If they fixed all the bugs, and then nerfed assa by 5% to compensate

#

Would people be happy

royal lantern
#

ofc not

jaunty sky
#

Yes

royal lantern
#

like idk

yeha sure, having bugs suck

but jfc that "omg assa so bugged its unplayable" bs is just annoying at this point

main bridge
#

servers up fr fr

pliant remnant
#

Compensate these

old obsidian
#

up

normal mist
#

@balmy condor how boring was it to do the guide for lemix?

midnight scroll
#

what's the deal with 2700 rio players making groups for a 13 and not inviting someone who's over 3k rio holy

coral ibex
midnight scroll
coral ibex
#

antennangle

jaunty sky
#

Or a frost dk

#

Or any of the ez classes actually

royal lantern
#

a puppy dies

#

and a kitten

normal mist
#

LEMIX

royal lantern
#

really small ones with cute eyes

soft drift
#

is FB heads fixed

#

did it work

oak ember
#

Besides mh, chest and helm which other pieces are prio for crest upgrades?

royal lantern
#

(and trinkets if you have mythic trinkets)

oak ember
#

ok ty

royal lantern
#

like, do weapon->the big mainstat slots->trinkets

scenic horizon
#

Finally got a prism, just to be clear I use it with deathmark on Deathstalker and as a 3min CD with fatebound?

royal lantern
#

but tbh

#

it doesnt really matter much anyway cus uncapped crests come soon

royal lantern
waxen oyster
#

trinket might be bigger than big slots

#

if prism

balmy condor
waxen oyster
#

what is there to guide

#

are there new funny effects

lusty kraken
#

I assume only the fatebound bug was fixed, right

#

no ninja bug fix Sadeg

hollow smelt
balmy condor
knotty vapor
hollow smelt
waxen oyster
knotty vapor
waxen oyster
#

"bonus points if you send feet" typeshi

midnight scroll
#

i'm never gonna time a 13 fg am i

#

overtimed by 38 sec crying emoji

#

mage died 4 times

hasty gate
#

even if the mage died 4 times sounds like yall were slow in general what was average dps

midnight scroll
inner cave
#

is bugged ?

spice surge
#

Whats bugged about it

hasty gate
#

weird

spice surge
#

Oh wait nvm

inner cave
#

dont show me tooltip and dont proc

#

all my pjs do the same

hasty gate
# midnight scroll

overall dps is low urs isnt bad but everyone should be doing about the sameas u and should be like 25 min key

spice surge
#

Go to the guy or use the macro and fill in the things i guess

#

see if that helps

midnight scroll
#

in bleed build

hollow smelt
#

Criminal

severe meadow
#

Prism HOLY

midnight scroll
#

prismglorp

glossy dust
#

can someone explain to me how tank pulling exactly impacts dmg? i understand that chain pulling somehow gives mstly higher overalls for most classes and adds on boss but what else? playing around cds is mostly a fixed group thing

main bridge
#

regarding chain pulling...

#

!chainpull

prisma monolithBOT
#

Explanation of why stealth benefits aren't as important as you might think:

  • For starters, "Chain pulls" are NOT when the tank pulls a new pack with 1% hp remaining on the previous mobs. That is called "Bad Tanking", and it sucks for everyone in your party.
  • Correct Chain pulls usually happen while the previous pack is still alive and not dangerous. This increases uptime on more targets, which is the biggest increase in DPS for the entire party. This is also the biggest reason why you see high key level players doing so much damage.
  • Garrote is roughly 7-9% of people's damage in a key, most of which is already empowered/cleaved
  • Most energy spreading will come from Rupture to maintain scent of blood, not garrote
  • Without a Trace (+1 vanish charge) only grants roughly 2 additional casts across a whole dungeon, but does allow for holding vanish for large chain pulls which improves the quality of each vanish
  • You can argue that it "feels bad", but numerically there is very little ground to stand on, the dps simply isn't there.
glossy dust
#

he did such nice chain pulls

main bridge
#

good tanks are great for any dps

normal mist
#

eco 11, tank is irl friend in voice, we chained when possible and reset when it wasnt possible

#

it was a +2

glossy dust
normal mist
#

they dont have tools like we do

glossy dust
#

whatr do u mean exactly

normal mist
#

this is huge for us

#

going into a new pack with a bunch of mobs ruptured gives you a head start

glossy dust
#

well yeah but how come theyre so unbothered by bad tanking

normal mist
#

they just press buttons, they don't have ramp ups

glossy dust
#

with mage atleast i couldnt ever if he wouldnt tank like this

normal mist
#

fdk is brain dead

glossy dust
#

and i asume rogue would be the same

normal mist
#

i've leveled a dk recently and they literally have 2 ST spells, 3 AoE spells

#

like its SO fucking easy to play that spec

midnight scroll
#

and most of their damage isn't tied to something they have to set up in a state they have to enter out of combat or use a big cd

glossy dust
#

i see

normal mist
#

and their cds are 45 / 1:30

glossy dust
#

so whats the gameplan

midnight scroll
#

always ask nicely first

glossy dust
#

am i at the mercy of the tank or can i

midnight scroll
#

a lot of tanks just forget they have a rogue

glossy dust
#

outplay it

hollow smelt
#

Alt leveling is The don’t fall asleep playing fdk challenge

midnight scroll
# midnight scroll always ask nicely first

if not then work around it, plan your vanishes for pulls where you'd do big damage from stealth anyway, not like 3 mobs, if it happens to be 3 mobs, spread your bleeds dry, it's gonna suck but you need those bleeds

glossy dust
#

bro is here just to hate

#

ask them to chain pull or ask them to let me resteahlt

#

or prob both?

normal mist
#

I'm fortunate enough that when i play with my premade tank, i just tell him what to pull LOL

midnight scroll
#

ask to stealth

normal mist
#

and he's like "for real?"

#

xD

midnight scroll
#

but you can also let them know if you have a vanish charge that you can spend so they can just send it

midnight scroll
glossy dust
#

damn

#

people in pugs are so scared to chain

#

but i do understand

#

he dont wanna fuck up

normal mist
#

2nd boss ECO i just told him "you see these mobs on the right? pull them too"

glossy dust
#

its so mcuh fun tho

normal mist
#

discord is drunk

midnight scroll
#

since when did we get time warp tf

knotty vapor
#

yo what appearances did we get from 2.5k rating?

#

I only see shoulders

normal mist
#

shoulders only

severe meadow
#

thats it

knotty vapor
#

aw wtf

#

lame

normal mist
#

monks tet the WHOLE set

#

get*

knotty vapor
#

bruh...

normal mist
#

altough the "effects" are nothing special

knotty vapor
#

i need to GLOW my guy

#

i need to be COATED IN A FINE MIST OF PARTICLES

pulsar orbit
#

anyone else getting this?

midnight scroll
pulsar orbit
#

hm

knotty vapor
#

iirc the belt did something like that a while ago where it deselected your chosen power and the tooltip broke

pulsar orbit
#

my ilvl was bugged for a few minutes, 10 lower than reality and now I think im missing like 500k hp

midnight scroll
knotty vapor
#

yeah one of the best sets in the game

lusty narwhal
#

Its doing that atm

pulsar orbit
#

I did lol

normal mist
pulsar orbit
#

hope they fix it in the next hour

midnight scroll
#

is that nerub'ar?

normal mist
#

3 pieces nerubar

severe meadow
#

s1 tier is so good

normal mist
#

2 pieces LFR antorus dh

midnight scroll
lusty narwhal
#

Its bugged

severe meadow
midnight scroll
#

this should be the mythic version

coral ibex
#

im pretty sure the cape thing is just a visual bug

#

bc im getting cape procs in m+

buoyant herald
coral ibex
buoyant herald
#

Outlaw also has artefact appearances that match which is nice

knotty vapor
# knotty vapor

guys its real, I go from 717 to 708 when i put on my recrafted weapon lol

balmy condor
#

leave dorn

#

relog

#

fixes itself

#

it's a UI issue

knotty vapor
#

lord have mercy this game giving me a heart attack 20 mins before raid

unborn rain
#

mage tower druid forms

#

are in remix lmfao

peak badger
#

^ nice

severe meadow
#

Rough mage hours

hollow smelt
#

Arcane mage, whatever happened there?

severe meadow
#

bad

#

or something

main bridge
#

you're against someone that doesn't know how to play mage and a DK playing off meta

#

not even a fair fight

severe meadow
#

I just want my gilded man

#

😔

midnight scroll
chilly pecan
#

did anyone else sim randomly go down like 400K?

humble verge
#

we love

#

alt runs on tuesdays

rotund thicket
#

Wait hold on

#

So fatebound is the hero spec we go?