#assassination

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humble verge
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is poe2 free yet

severe meadow
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Uh I’m not sure, I got it free because I spent a lot of money on 1

humble verge
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i thought

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they would remove early access after 6 months

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or was it a year

severe meadow
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No idea when they’ll drop early access tag

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Game is still missing a lot tbh

humble verge
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idk poe1 feels like an EA game still

severe meadow
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Recent leagues made it feel a lot better

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Like with the market

zealous moth
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the kazalgar campaign?

severe meadow
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And in 2 they added the shop thing which is the single best QOL they’ve ever added

humble verge
zealous moth
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i'm pretty sure you get a big fat sign with red letters saying you can't do it if you skip it?

main bridge
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also says "this cannot be undone"

main bridge
humble verge
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its stupid

zealous moth
humble verge
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being 99, losing 10% exp

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kekw

zealous moth
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pulling 1 add at a time and dying anyway

severe meadow
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Debating on it tbh

zealous moth
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current expansion is mop right?

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s1?

severe meadow
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I think we got legion soon

zealous moth
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oh

severe meadow
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Legion remix or whatever

zealous moth
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i'm so disconnected

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isn't remix different from classic?

severe meadow
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Well yeah but I think they meant actual classic

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But I want the mogs from legion anyway

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One day I’ll return to my hardcore character

jaunty sky
marsh fjord
severe meadow
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Imo the end game is a bit to stale to recommend it, but the next big patch is focused on revamping it

marsh fjord
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They revamped it yesterday

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Towers are only for exploring and you use the map tablets on your map device now

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i dont want to say how much hours i got in poe2 OMEGAKEKW

severe meadow
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Oh

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That sounds possibly even less fun

marsh fjord
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nah its good because now you dont need towers anymore to juice your map

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to really juice it you need 3 towers to overlap and then the right mods

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it was to much work

severe meadow
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I guess yeah

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I still don’t know what I’m aiming for in poe2 mapping

marsh fjord
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T16 + uber bosses kills. same as in poe1

severe meadow
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My problem..

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They changed flicker strike

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And I’m Madge about it

severe meadow
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PoE1 flicker my beloved

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I put around 2 mirrors into flicker in the last league and it was so much fun

radiant aspen
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gj ian

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good boy

severe meadow
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gj ian

radiant aspen
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they fixed sudden demise

unborn rain
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whay

humble verge
radiant aspen
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Fully Collecting a Class Set Appearance Unlocks All Lower Difficulty Variants in Midnight

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we booming big time in my book

ionic hill
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Lets goooooo

spice spire
desert crest
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Wait i am dumb what will hero track max ilvl be after turbo boost

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717?

zealous moth
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what is current

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710?

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should be 716

urban wren
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
desert crest
zealous moth
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yeah but they just raise the ilvl cap on each tier by 6

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isn't that what they did last season?

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i may be mixing something up

desert crest
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For crafting atleast u get 6 more ilvl

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Which would mean that crafting would then be 4 ilvl behind non crafted

balmy condor
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All tracks go +6

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Including crafted

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Crafted stays -3 ilvl

barren yarrow
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Just read the alpha notes and I gotta say, I’m fucking excited!

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Envenoms go brrrr

balmy condor
zealous moth
tidal hatch
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im approaching a pack in m plus
i open with ambush procing the purple combo points

do i apply my bleeds as top priority or do i first spend on envenom and then go into bleeds

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right now i have no idea what is priority between 5 ruptures, spending blackest night and getting caustic rolling

balmy condor
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Bleeds first then caustic then darkest night

vagrant urchin
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!rik

prisma monolithBOT
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Rik Reverb Barrels (and similar spread cleave in raid)

  • Not your problem.
  • Assassination is the worst target swapping spec in the game, and we have no tools available to deal with the situation of priority spread cleave. Caustic can reach sometimes but similar to fire mage, the boss needs to be on top of the adds, causing caustic to often be out of range.
  • If you're truly hellbent on swapping to barrels, hold your nearest darkest night and just slam a darkest night envenom into them and pray. If you're quick enough you can also pool combo points/energy and cast a rupture on a barrel to try and caustic off of them. This still will not do good barrel damage, again, the spec is doomed for it
  • Another possible option would be talenting into Crimson Tempest by untalenting Bone Spike and Doomblade. This CAN TECHNICALLY provide a bit of barrel damage, but the spawns need to be immaculate and any difficult spawns will just result in no barrel damage again.
    With all that, the best advice we have for swapping barrels:
  • Swap to Subtlety.
zealous moth
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!richard

tidal hatch
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do mouseovers default to current target if you arent currently mousing over something

zealous moth
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they do if you do [mouseover, target]

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or something like that

clever sparrow
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whats easiest spec to parse on soulhunters?

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its heroic tho

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what now

main bridge
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Sabotage spec so your ranged don’t dumpster you while you run around chasing the bosses

waxen oyster
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just play whatev you good at

visual sun
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Copium spec

waxen oyster
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Most logs on it are sub or outlaw.

humble verge
fast harness
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@balmy condor Green arrow. ❤️

balmy condor
upper spear
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Are we shutting down the class discord in protest?

balmy condor
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why would we

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the rework is a W

upper spear
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Why not, aren't u bored?

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Lil drama?

main bridge
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I can tell you’re bored because you’re the 10000th person to trot out this tired joke

balmy condor
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goes into wrong channel

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makes the same joke for the millionth time

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ragebaiting

upper spear
balmy condor
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the perfect discord user

midnight scroll
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oh shit it's grok from twitter

upper spear
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Im stuck on a plane and there isn't enough air in this cabin so im letting the fumes run the keyboard

unborn rain
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is that the entire story

upper spear
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Elon

unborn rain
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haha

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you need to wake up before its too late

midnight scroll
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brotherly advice, this is the moment everything you say is increasingly unfunnier and you stop and hope everyone forgets

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no disrespect

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just beat ky'veza and holy shit she's like 15 times easier than the first two nemesis fights we've had

main bridge
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You’re doing it super late also

midnight scroll
severe meadow
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She beat my guts in

midnight scroll
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but i did the underpin even later last season and had a MUCH harder time

severe meadow
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Underpin was kinda easy

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you just hit bombs

midnight scroll
unborn rain
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lol

severe meadow
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yeah if you just kite corner to corner or w/e it was pretty simple

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Kyvesa is incredibly punishing and you literally can't fuck up

midnight scroll
severe meadow
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I mean so did the other 2

midnight scroll
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but the underpin had much more going on in general i feel like

severe meadow
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like what

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adds that spawned and died instantly if you did it properly?

midnight scroll
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yea that was my problem, they weren't dying instantly kekW

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definitely skill issue on my part but idk i had a much easier time figuring ky'veza out than the underpin

waxen oyster
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first guy was easy

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imo

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you just let bran tank

midnight scroll
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the problem i had with zekvir was the uncertainty of whether or not brann was gonna dispell you

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because sometimes he didn't

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and sometimes he was just late so as soon as i cloak he decides "ooh dispell time"

severe meadow
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He did it every other

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so you vanish / cloak

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and just rotate

midnight scroll
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i hope they continue the nemesis fights because i'm enjoying them very much

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probably will though, no reason not to

jolly stirrup
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HOLY

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FUCK

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My best performance YET

clever sparrow
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are we getting trolled now?

normal mist
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Yes

midnight scroll
humble verge
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yaha

west crown
quaint nimbus
midnight scroll
strange python
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!build

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!talents

humble verge
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!guide

humble verge
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there u go

somber sparrow
severe meadow
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You have to break stealth faster

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Can't sit in it

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Brann also tries and stealths with you

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and if he does it resets

humble verge
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wait

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wtf is happening voice

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i just joined

severe meadow
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I think he streaming alpha

humble verge
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ohok

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how do you even know if u get alpha

main bridge
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Email

humble verge
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ohok

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its just random then eh

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or you can signup

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i remember for some

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by jesus

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the quality of the stream is insanely bad tho

dim coral
clever sparrow
dim coral
clever sparrow
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first they take everything from us and then gave us worst sit of s1 xd

dim coral
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is there any talent discussion /first look yet on yt/vod?

waxen oyster
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male belf moment

clever sparrow
waxen oyster
clever sparrow
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every single race

waxen oyster
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?

balmy condor
clever sparrow
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just wait !

waxen oyster
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Why not just change then

clever sparrow
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HOW TO CHANGE RACE WITH NO MONEY

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lol

waxen oyster
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Idk sell toes

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on feetfinder

clever sparrow
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its hairy

waxen oyster
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i have too much shit on my main rogue

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to swap anyway

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You think im paying for a jainas locket on each one? Y_KEK

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to troll drop dalaran portals on lock closets

clever sparrow
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keystones not worth anymore

waxen oyster
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if you raid somewhere to sell mythic 2-3x yeah

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or the easy fix is just going fem belf

clever sparrow
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you just have to make her naked

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and im not a fan of playing with a character that looks more like a slut than a hero

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lol

waxen oyster
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they aint even that small

clever sparrow
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its like chicken

waxen oyster
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american moment

clever sparrow
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but thats like a chicken xd

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i rather face a mask 24/7 on my male belf but neve play female belf

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im thinking about male tauren rogue

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its sick af

waxen oyster
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rogue is meant to be big

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the stealth class

clever sparrow
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BIG BUT SNEAKY

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LIKE RANDY!

waxen oyster
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randy marsh?

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wouldnt say sneaky

clever sparrow
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on halloween

waxen oyster
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male belf doesnt fit first 2 words of that

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🤏

clever sparrow
clever sparrow
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i hate elves too

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lol

waxen oyster
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plays one

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male orc and hunch for gigachad moment

clever sparrow
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look atleat i can see my self

clever sparrow
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now im a pixel

night delta
clever sparrow
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WTF race changes worth 3 month of game time

waxen oyster
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who stares at their toon mid combat

night delta
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uh yea, welcome to the game

waxen oyster
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isnt it 2 months

clever sparrow
clever sparrow
night delta
umbral sigil
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not being seen < people not wanting to look at you

night delta
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i need bleach

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and some kind of forgetting drug

clever sparrow
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WTF IS THIS

honest silo
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Peak performance

waxen oyster
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the look of the guy who gaps you

umbral sigil
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I only let my girlfriend gap me

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wait are we saying the same thing

night delta
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i've only been back to chatting on RH today

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and I already regret everything

umbral sigil
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Could be worse

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You could be in the fury chat on a regular basis

waxen oyster
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i need to retire these shoulders soon

clever sparrow
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today i made enough gold to prepurchase mid night B)

waxen oyster
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every tom dick and harry gonna have these shoulders

umbral sigil
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I have a cousin named Tom Dick

waxen oyster
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maybe i level my alt rogue sometime

clever sparrow
waxen oyster
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thats nelf

clever sparrow
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idk i already have another rogue

waxen oyster
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🤨

clever sparrow
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its alliance

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ew

waxen oyster
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brother

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you play soy elf

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aint no way

midnight scroll
waxen oyster
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if you play horde and dont play orc

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uhhh

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faker

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garrosh did nothing wrong

clever sparrow
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should i roll?

clever sparrow
unborn rain
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good blog update bro

waxen oyster
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those daggers dont match

clever sparrow
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since s1

waxen oyster
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point stands

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why dont they match

clever sparrow
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579 ilvl

waxen oyster
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horde is just a bozo faction besides orcs anyway

royal lantern
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🦊

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get foxed bozo

waxen oyster
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"garrosh dies and now theres foxes with butterfly wings"

coral ibex
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yes alliance is so much better being helmed by Generic Human Male with Female Magic User Companion

waxen oyster
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who even is the alliance leader rn

coral ibex
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Generic Human Male

waxen oyster
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didnt anduin wimp out

coral ibex
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last name Wrynn probably

night delta
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It's Turalion actually

royal lantern
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who the fuck bring up faction bs in 2025

coral ibex
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leadership for both factions have been meaningless puppet speakers for the writers for so long

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it doesnt matter

waxen oyster
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idk people who say eww alliance

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while playing male belf

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never not funny

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buddy you're playing long eared human

night delta
coral ibex
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i just think its funny to clown on people who play humans in fantasy games in general

royal lantern
waxen oyster
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Hey let's go back to the 1940s

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i got a friend who thinks the same

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/jk

coral ibex
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you can be anything and you choose "me but better"

night delta
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some people at least

royal lantern
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damm

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show off

night delta
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people also want a power fantasy

waxen oyster
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male human ret paladin

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boomer peak

night delta
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literally oldschool crusader

royal lantern
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and bonus points for thunderfury

waxen oyster
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"back in my day"

coral ibex
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a paladin not using ashbringer mog?

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impossible

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or atiesh, either one really

night delta
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skipped legion

waxen oyster
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was ret real in vanilla?

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i thought it was play healer or get benched

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unless you're a streamer

royal lantern
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and tbf

coral ibex
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really fucking bad

royal lantern
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he is the only paladin that i call an actually good player

waxen oyster
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notice how all these streamer manchildren

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play ret

royal lantern
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like, knows his shit, uses the utility and stuff

waxen oyster
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in classic

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well except payo

royal lantern
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so they can engage with their shity classic chat

waxen oyster
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Or my favorite towellie special

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stand in beam

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"do i even have a healer over there"

royal lantern
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but like, fr

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our ret existing makes me depressed

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because seeing a ret playing that has actually a brain, legit makes you angry at 99,99999% of the other rets

waxen oyster
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Well yeah most of them just forgot to pick warrior

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at select screen

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or hero complex go too hard

royal lantern
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like, that guy does split second offheals, divine shield+taunt saves in raid prog without the RL calling for it and saving the kill

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and then you have the full t2 ret guy in your keys that drolls on his keyboard dracthyr_kek

waxen oyster
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hey now its updated t2

midnight scroll
royal lantern
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i mean, ret is really fucking dumb easy

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but it also has great utility tools

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and using them great can be complicated cus you need to be aware of others

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but because thats not needed for dmg, they just never care and dont touch them

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blessing of sacrifice? whats that lmao

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freedom? you mean my personal MS boost that i never use for anything else?

waxen oyster
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the ret i used to play with the most

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would just macro sac with his shield of vengeance

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or whichever the cd was that you had to take damage to pop and it exploded

coral ibex
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wish we didnt have a ret in my raid only so that we'd have a holy and then i'd get blessing of autumn on NK and dimmy as sub

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our ret is chill i just want that cdr

hollow stream
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!shiv

prisma monolithBOT
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With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

unborn rain
lusty narwhal
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How is there no tuning in 11.2.5

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Fix the bugs fmlagony

visual sun
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Rogue devs shoved to housing alr

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One thing is confirmed, housing bugs on release

midnight scroll
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honestly i couldn't tell you an example since it was a while ago and a bunch of shit in a small amount of time but yea it was more than i had expected

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and also i don't play it so it went into one ear and out the other kekW

umbral sierra
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Airborne Irritant no longer causes Blind to affect additional enemies. Now reduces cooldown by 80% (was 50%) and duration by 80% (was 70%).

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tf is this shit

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so we just

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dont bring any aoe stops to a key now

balmy condor
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aoe blind baseline

umbral sierra
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where it say that

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i dont see it anywhere in the patch notes under class changes

pliant remnant
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It's in the new class trees

umbral sierra
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cant wait to fucking hate this change

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i was worried about it being "gone" bc pve implications

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but with it 100% on all the time, thats gonna fuck pvp...

wheat tiger
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Rumor has it some bugs got fixed? True?

barren forge
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So when I use this my subterfuge isnt procced... is there something wrong with my macro (netherprism trinket)

#showtooltip Vanish
/cast Vanish
/use 13
/use item:212971
/use item:212970
/use item:212969
/use item:212265
/use item:212264
/use item:212263

dreamy quail
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lol..prob get flamed for asking this retorical question, but with them focusing on midnight..guess the current sin bugs are here to stay

glossy dust
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when u skip story with an alt how do u get the new back?

coral ibex
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go to the guy who gives you the cape

coral ibex
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he gives you the cape

spice surge
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Using items during subterfuge bricks it

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For some reason

glossy dust
coral ibex
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ill just screenshot the map

severe meadow
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Google exists btw

coral ibex
glossy dust
glossy dust
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looks like you still have to do some questing

strange dock
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hello everyone, master assassin doesn't increase the value of my critical chance, it says 20% extra crit but im still at 31% regardless, is it bugged ?

coral ibex
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no

exotic hearth
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
normal mist
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The extra 20% are added dw

balmy condor
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that's not a tooltip bug for what it's worth

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that's intended

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because it's not crit rating

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it's crit to abilities

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if it applied crit to your character stat sheet, it would also affects trinkets and stuff

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which is not how it works

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therefore it doesn't show on sheet

normal mist
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Fair enough xd

humble verge
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maybe ive been radicalized

jaunty sky
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Most radicalized teens live in houses

humble verge
haughty flicker
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im so glad they put that disclaimer

glossy dust
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duration of bleeds is same on all targets correct? i can just check my main target for refreshes?

coral ibex
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if you spend the same amount of combo points on them

glossy dust
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well rupture is just rupture and spreads itself

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ah idk no it doesnt

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i mean it does

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u also rupture at same cp points so that should be fine right

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crimson tempest goes to all targets anyway

coral ibex
glossy dust
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what

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im talking about now wdym

coral ibex
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yea ok so i have no idea what ur talking about then

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rupture duration is dependent on the cp spent

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so if you spend 5 its shorter than 7

glossy dust
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yes but trough indisc carnage the same lenght will spread to all

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well 2 additional

coral ibex
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im just repeating myself

glossy dust
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if i dont start doing this wiht less cp the duration should be the same

coral ibex
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rupture duration is dependent on the cp spent

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if your first if 5 and second is 7

glossy dust
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the higher u go the longer the fights go

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obv

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do i vanish to reaply bleeds

coral ibex
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what

glossy dust
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the fight is prolonged the pack is big the key is high everything is still living

coral ibex
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!guide

glossy dust
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aight

severe meadow
coral ibex
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one tapped him on tuesday

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after 6 other one taps in reclear

severe meadow
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did you run feint on this

coral ibex
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what

severe meadow
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uh

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the talent

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elusive

coral ibex
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elu? pretty sure yea

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oh

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no i didn't

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i ran cheat

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we 4 healed it

severe meadow
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we're 3 healing but we have a healer out until next week

coral ibex
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i'd have run elu if we 3 healed it

desert vault
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for Soul Hunters is SIn playable? I know outlaw is sort of the go to, but just more comfortable with Sin personally

severe meadow
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Sin is fine, you run m+ build

glossy dust
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do u ever run the cleave build?

viscid spear
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!up

digital venture
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!bleed

prisma monolithBOT
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Bleed vs Hybrid vs Cleave/FI builds
Broad rules and Section in Guide:

  1. If you have to ask, you should play bleed
  2. Even if you don't have to ask, you should play bleed
  3. No, Fatebound is not good, you play Deathstalker in every key.

Some general concepts as to why people play different things:

  • Hybrid sucks really bad
  • Fatebound sucks really bad
  • Cleave sucks moderately bad
  • In stuff like streets with heavy single target you either have to accept your fate of bad ST, play cleave and just be mediocre, or play sub
gray hazel
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For the soak mechanic on Saladbar, is it considered AoE? Just wondering if Feint impacts it at all

coral ibex
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feint everything on NK

frozen iris
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Do you guys play around netherpism or just

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let it come to you

balmy condor
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I assume you mean antenna

frozen iris
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yeah

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my bad

balmy condor
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and you can kinda play around it

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like if you see an orb floating off to nowhere you can go grab it

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but generally don't need to

frozen iris
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Shaman in guild was complaining about the trinket and having to collect the orbs

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Said it was like a 20% increase to go collec the orbs dilligently. Was curious if that would be true for us

balmy condor
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20% increase to collect orbs

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on a trinket worth a total of 5%

frozen iris
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I thought he was full of it but was curious

regal carbon
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whats the best way to deal with adds on the suck phase of first boss in eco dome?

barren forge
# spice surge For some reason

🙁 yes had to learn it on the hard way today. didnt know something like this exists, but after reading all these bugs im not surprised

idle lodge
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So with the removal of AoE blind, which really wasn't super great utility to begin with, do we just not have any utility besides non-lethal poisons now? Speaking for M+

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With alpha notes and stuff

frozen iris
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And this is the wrong channel for that

idle lodge
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My apologies

frozen iris
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All good. Theres a midnight assassination Channel

cunning needle
balmy condor
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you're aoe?

coral ibex
cunning needle
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yo momma so fat when blind is casted on her, the whole world becomes blind

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sorry that was uncalled for. for some reason my mind just went to a yo momma joke when i read aoe

idle lodge
full sandal
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anyone here who has killed soul hunters?

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mythic

coral ibex
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probably

full sandal
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kk should I try to maintain garrote on all threee bosses

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or just rupture

thorn thorn
#

oh im adding that one to my collection ty

cunning needle
#

poor guy asking about garrote uptime on soul hunters be blocked out by femboy gifs

#

average day in assi general

coral ibex
#

you play soul hunters like ur in pain in m+ aka tank pulled 3

thorn thorn
cunning needle
#

who doesnt

#

i mean wait what

opaque sky
#

Guys some things have happened after loom kill

#

And now I have to reroll DK

main bridge
#

sounds awesome

cunning needle
opaque sky
#

ahahaha

frozen iris
#

Is it okay to feel like Mythic soul hunters is impossible on sin

opaque sky
#

At least now I wont get declined from pug keys

severe meadow
opaque sky
#

Because I'd be a DK

cunning needle
opaque sky
#

😄

#

Fair enough

glossy dust
#

is 3 targets only that bad?

frozen iris
opaque sky
#

Tobe fair that's only cause they jump around annoyingly

glossy dust
#

what do u even do there - i heard bleed build

opaque sky
#

It's your M+ build

frozen iris
#

yeah.

glossy dust
#

u ocasionaly rupture/crimsin and then w.e?😂

#

sounds chill

frozen iris
#

First time doing a fight like this on mythic. Its hectic

cunning needle
#

and move wiht him

severe meadow
#

yeah just stick to mr like a beast

zealous moth
#

THE GROUND

main bridge
#

treat it like boxing: stick and move, stick and move

zealous moth
#

LIKE A BEAST

glossy dust
#

deathmark duplicates only main target dmg ye? but like the extra dmg splatters?

#

well duplicates it said 100%

desert vault
#

when it comes to the second shiv in the KB window casting it at 7s is better than 9s right?

balmy condor
#

does not matter

cunning needle
rotund oak
thorn thorn
rotund oak
coral ibex
#

p2 prog

severe meadow
#

Sub jail

coral ibex
#

yea

#

for prog

#

my group tends to be low damage and i gotta go infinite

severe meadow
#

yeah thats fair

humble verge
oak tangle
coral ibex
#

empty bc we wiped

#

lol

#

i hit the wrong trinket too

oak tangle
#

rip

#

mans did not go infinite

coral ibex
#

we're still cleaning up p1 anyway

balmy condor
#

still

coral ibex
#

im sorry king

balmy condor
#

it's okay, dies in another 50 pulls I'm sure

coral ibex
#

p1 NK is the vibe killer

balmy condor
#

it'll be less than 300 pulls

severe meadow
#

yeah we're still on p1

main bridge
#

by my will be broken!

severe meadow
#

it's uh

#

not great vibes atm

coral ibex
#

200 pulls in

#

casters still missing ghosts

#

cant be real man

severe meadow
#

we got people dying on first set of beams brother

cunning needle
#

If you cannot defeat Kyveza, do not bother showing up to raid. This boss is a baseline mechanics check. If you cannot handle mechanics while maintaining a strong DPS or HPS rotation, you will only drag the group down on the harder fights ahead.

This is not optional. This is not "just a warm-up boss." This is the fight that tells us whether you can balance your gameplay fundamentals aka: awareness, movement, uptime, and performance but all at once. If you fail here, you will fail later.

If you can't be bothered to put in the hours to grind this fight, you are disrespecting the other 25 players on this roster who are putting in the work. This is a preparatory fight for a multi-week raid, and it requires commitment. If you can't commit now, you won't commit later.

You all said you wanted to improve as a raid and get a better ranking. That doesn't start with someone else carrying you, it starts with you improving your own gameplay. If you can't do that, you're dead weight. And yes, I'm talking to you, you slug.

And before anyone even thinks about saying, "my class isn't designed for this encounter" fucking save it. I've seen hundreds of Chinese VODs of Kyveza beaten on every single spec and every single hero talent combination possible. The fight is beatable. The capability exists. The only difference between them and you is execution and effort.

So here's the bottom line: Beat Kyveza before raid night, or don't show up.

This meme became true

coral ibex
#

im strongly considering hard pivoting to mage next tier to show up our casters

cunning needle
#

do it

coral ibex
#

i have 10000 hours in ff14 on caster

main bridge
oak tangle
#

They doin arcane dirty though I think

coral ibex
oak tangle
#

Arcane missiles consuming arcane charges or someshit

#

Netherprecision goooone

severe meadow
coral ibex
#

yes

balmy condor
haughty flicker
#

damn i was too slow

coral ibex
#

didnt do any parsing this tier

#

just reclear and logged out

severe meadow
#

I did savage raiding for like

#

one tier

#

Monk enjoyer

haughty flicker
severe meadow
#

Au'ra BASED

haughty flicker
tidal hatch
#

is there a chart anywhere that shows the m+ scaling beyond 15 i cannot for the life of me find one

coral ibex
coral ibex
#

release pictomancer was doing next tier's damage

haughty flicker
#

Yeah

#

It was something lmfao

coral ibex
#

i basically one tricked BLM in EW

severe meadow
#

this is like the only raid I did

tidal hatch
#

nobody has access to this information huh

#

its unknowable enshrouded info

haughty flicker
#

I never got the hype behind enshrouded

somber sparrow
balmy condor
tidal hatch
balmy condor
#

Oh yeah no clue

#

But it’s exponential

#

So just idk, more than it was from 14->15 I guess kekl

tidal hatch
#

into the unknown

frozen iris
#

Can rogues solo the hunt in mythic soul hunters

#

If you get the line

oak tangle
#

even if you could, would you want to

frozen iris
#

Well if it saves others from having to step into it yeah

golden loom
oak tangle
golden loom
#

solo soaking hunt is a job that immunity classes have

oak tangle
#

fair enough then

barren zenith
#

insane blm au'ra -> rogue pipeline

#

real knowers

vocal basalt
#

I mained Ninja from 3.4 to 7.1

opaque sky
#

Lowkey, I'm gonna miss rogue

#

But I'm going to enjoy more damage and getting invited to keys

#

I say that like I'm not gonna still play rogue

humble verge
#

whar

opaque sky
#

Whar

oak tangle
#

Why are you swapping?

opaque sky
#

Oh we had some disagreements with certain members after we downed loom and attitude problems

#

I play both though so we gucci

tidal hatch
#

u throw that kind attitude around i will simply guild hop elsewhere

opaque sky
#

It's work friends guild

#

Else agreed

dense cedar
vale fox
#

question for bleeds build. when doing the first big pull in priory; do you open with Ambush > Garrote > Rupture > Rupture > Garrote > CT > here do you put Deathmark on the miniboss and then go spread garrotes; or do you spread garrotes first then come back to mini boss and deathmark?

coral ibex
#

i refuse

runic hinge
humble verge
#

is there a new expansion

#

i remember buying

dense cedar
humble verge
#

i played like

coral ibex
humble verge
#

1k+ hours of shadowbringers

coral ibex
#

dawntrail

humble verge
#

bought endwalker

dense cedar
humble verge
#

didnt play a bit

coral ibex
#

endwalker was 2021

humble verge
#

but like

coral ibex
#

this expansion might last until 2027

#

game is dead

humble verge
#

the FC i was in

#

kinda got like killed

#

in shadowbringer

coral ibex
#

literally all of TWW will have happened and there will still be dawntrail patches left

humble verge
#

cause some artistic

#

kids

#

kept on being annoying

#

in the discord and ingame

#

and the leader got tired of them

coral ibex
#

i just raid with my 7 static members and thats it

humble verge
#

so she just like

coral ibex
#

i have a solo fc to print money

#

its like a garrison

dense cedar
#

submarine gamer

humble verge
#

we were like

#

a 100+ member FC

#

casual tho

#

well we did some hard raids

tidal hatch
#

getting caustic up very important

dense cedar
#

i still have a backlog of things to do in ffxiv but just no motivation rn

#

I just don't wanna have to be the one to organise things

humble verge
#

i remember

#

the last thing i did

#

was farming on those flying islands

dense cedar
#

with the bazooka?

humble verge
#

idk

#

it was in shadowbringers

dense cedar
#

probably the ishgard restoration sutff ye

#

can tell nooj never touched it

humble verge
#

diadem

#

farming

dense cedar
#

ye

humble verge
#

idk if i ever made anything of off it

#

i just did it for fun

#

tho i had a route

tidal hatch
#

also u should shiv somewhere no clue where honestly it seems to me like you just press good buttons and pressnt bad buttons and if you tick all of the boxes it doesnt really matter what order you ticked them in and the damage is bout the same

#

i just be kinda vibin

knotty vapor
#

check this maxed out clown mog

#

kinda jealous

#

wish i had the clown chops for that

humble verge
knotty vapor
#

bum

scarlet orbit
# somber sparrow is this the right spread of damage for nexus king, feels like my kingsbane damag...

You played your dmg windows wrong. The sequenze as fb is always Shiv > DM> KB and on the solo kb you want to shiv for the end of the kb. You did kb directly into shiv most of the time. You also missed 1 cast of kb and what i noticed you have quite a few finisher at 4 or less cp which should not happen if its not a rapture snipe.

I took also a quick look at your dimi kill and there you also played your cd windows wrong. Thats the first thing you should try to fix.

humble verge
royal hazel
#

what stats are you guys using on your Harvested Creephide Cord for M+?

#

Zero has one?

#

vers mastery or haste for M+ bleed?

balmy condor
#

whatever sims higher I guess

#

it's like any other crafted slot

royal hazel
#

i am interested in how worth haste is now days in bleed build

balmy condor
#

sounds like you got some sims to run then

royal hazel
#

fair

tidal hatch
#

can you theoretically equip 2 everforge stabbers
it says unique equip but i assume that is the embellishment

balmy condor
#

You can theoretically do that

#

But it would be a waste of 60 crests

tidal hatch
#

why is that

balmy condor
#

Cause you’d replace it

#

Myth track dagger in main hand is one of the most important upgrades

#

Crafted in offhand is bis because offhand daggers are worthless so you eat the -3 ilvl

#

Crafting a second dagger would just be upgrading your useless offhand from who cares to who cares but also 720 and instantly garbage when you get a myth dagger

tidal hatch
#

i see

#

my rogues giga behind on vaults basically fresh this week so i was just gonna yolo double 726 crafted next week

#

unlikely it ever sees mythic raid

balmy condor
#

Luckily m+ also has daggers you could get from vault

clever sparrow
#

why no one que for 15s its so weird

balmy condor
#

The only time I’d ever recommend crafting a second dagger is deadass if you have nothing else to do with your crests for myth items you have, and you already crafted 4-5 slots, and you’re not raiding mythic, and you have a lot of vault upgrades left like tier slots or something

drifting cloud
#

youre way better off crafting neck, rings, belt before 2nd dagger

#

because if you dont have mythic raid vaults the 60 crests is the same as you save from upgrading if you get same slot from vault, so youre just down a spark

balmy condor
# clever sparrow why no one que for 15s its so weird

Cause m+ pugging is a hellscape of pain and misery and there’s thousands of dps but no healers or tanks in the game so mythic+ group finder ends up being an endless ocean of 1 dps sitting there waiting for anybody to show up

drifting cloud
#

which doesnt really matter anymore

clever sparrow
#

then how do i push?

#

grind stops here?

keen spruce
#

Make friends

balmy condor
#

You find a group

drifting cloud
#

que simulator is part of the push, enjoy!

tidal hatch
#

i think i tick most of those boxes, next week ill have 600~ gilded crests, only 1 myth track item (i had vault last week but its was cursed idol so i took heroic cantrip), and at best this character will see the tuesday first 2 pugs

balmy condor
#

If you’re trying to push without a group, get ready to sit in group finder for many hours a day until the end of the patch

clever sparrow
balmy condor
#

Then find new friends

tidal hatch
#

the sim spit out that its belt->ring->neck-> ohdagger for me atm

clever sparrow
#

💔

balmy condor
tidal hatch
#

you wanna see a real waste of crests

#

i did something kinda mega dumb

balmy condor
#

Worse than crafting a second dagger?

tidal hatch
#

yes

balmy condor
#

Only thing worse is an int dagger

#

What’s wrong with that?

tidal hatch
#

i figured it was pretty dumb since hat is already statted well

drifting cloud
#

yeah its fine, once you get a myth helm youll just have free upgrade to 720

balmy condor
#

That’s relative to the rest of your gear though

drifting cloud
#

but Ig in 2 weeks crest uncap so whatever

balmy condor
#

“Statted well” is only ever as a comparison to what is considered an upgrade at that point in time

drifting cloud
#

crafting really only matters for the first 2-3 sparks, after that you cant really fuck it up anymore

balmy condor
#

So like yeah okay tier helm is whatever good stats idk

#

But what does it matter

tidal hatch
#

spose thats true

balmy condor
#

Chest has vers but if you need vers

#

Then it’s good

tidal hatch
#

it was also from a vet helm to that

#

so i just sent it

balmy condor
#

Yeah that’s good then

#

I don’t see an issue with that

golden loom
#

last tier I had crafted helm all the way until like 2nd re-clear of gallywix when leather helm dropped

#

(not a single myth track helm before that garf )

tidal hatch
#

i have a feeling that when the dinar vendor comes out a lot of what are currently "first 2 and then disband" groups will become "we will kill loomithar even if it takes all day" groups

haughty flicker
#

tbf as bad as the average 2 boss pugger is im pretty sure a lot of those groups could kill loom if they actually tried

#

especially after turbo boost

red schooner
#

Yeah, only hard part is probably pylon coordination

golden loom
#

nah you just ffa the pylons

#

p2 is the hard part

#

its not too bad though, I've only pugged it twice so far in 10 and 5 pulls

tidal hatch
#

people are gon be hungry for the free antennas

rotund oak
#

cant get any better

tidal hatch
#

ive gone through the 3.5h video three times now

#

i feel like i know more about muti rogue than i do my actual mains

sleek mantle
#

Hello all. Would you say that assa is the best spec to start playing rogue?

golden loom
#

probably

#

depends on what you want aswell

sleek mantle
#

I tried sub but I got giga overwhelmed

sleek mantle
golden loom
#

yeah meant more of what you want from a spec

rotund oak
#

its a new one

golden loom
#

you can do any kind of content on any kind of spec so thats kinda whatever to me

rotund oak
#

its slow enough and reliable enough to give u space to learn how the class functions

#

for faster smashing gameplay u wanna try outlaw

#

for gigabrain planning/execution is sub

sleek mantle
#

So far I like the play style of assa, haven't tried the other two that much but I'm willing to learn all 3 specs. It's just that I started with sub and I was so overwhelmed but then I switched to assa and enjoyed it more

#

Thank you all for you answers 😊

rotund oak
#

sub is arguably the hardest spec in the game

#

very unforgiving with smol mistakes

#

the most physically exhausting is prolly outlaw

sleek mantle
tidal hatch
rotund oak
static glacier
#

sub on aoe is ezpz

#

for me anyway

rotund oak
#

the other dude says arcane is gigaphd hard omegawtflul

sleek mantle
#

also, sorry if it's somewhere and i'm not seeing it, but i can't find any guide that says what poisons do we use for every sircumstance

static glacier
rotund oak
static glacier
static glacier
#

just depends if you find it easier to lock in for blades and can just stop pressing dance and symbols in prep for it

rotund oak
static glacier
#

or if you are down to zoomer gameplay OL for hours

rotund oak
#

sub outside burst windows does negative dmg

#

if u fail those sub does literally 0 dmg

#

outlaw will do dmg

#

outside adr

static glacier
rotund oak
#

which is stupendously high uptime

static glacier
#

20% slower global kinda bricks the spec if you somehow lose ar

rotund oak
#

watching the captain charm

static glacier
#

and considering it has no burst you can't really ride on the coattails of a good cd window like sub and sin often do

#

regardless both are challenging, in different ways

#

it's why sub is being butchered kekw

rotund oak
#

the point with being hard is that u cant fail that window with sub,if u dont execute/plan correctly u do no dmg

#

outlaw will have a silly adr uptime so it will do much more dmg

#

even if the user does mistakes

#

its how it is

#

if u ask me personally for sub i think it needs a rework

#

cant go further from that

static glacier
#

badly played outlaw is REALLY bad

#

like

#

insanely garbage

#

atleast you'll get 1 sectec in blades even if you're omega trolling

#

if you start pressing ss with 6 ps or ps with ambush procs ready or rtb good buffs away or don't roll with shit buffs

#

every single finisher

#

you cast

#

is just -6s or w/e on rtb and it falls into a negative feedback loop where every mistake makes it harder to come back

#

culminating in ar dropping, less vanishes and ultimately more time pressing the 0 dps button sinister strike

#

my issue with outlaw is even when well played you're not neccesarily beating the tank on mass aoe even

rotund oak
#

yes its most likely an opinion thing

glacial stump
#

!ui

prisma monolithBOT
warm vortex
#

New whisper video but can’t watch it cause I’m in uni

red schooner
#

Watch it anyhow

main bobcat
#

Someone send a cat quick !!!!!!

red schooner
main bobcat
red schooner
#

Wanted to make my bed, can't make my bed because cat

scarlet orbit
#

what do you mean? its obv his bed!

red schooner
scarlet orbit
#

Maybe she needs 2? Look at her and dare to say no to anything she wants

humble verge
#

i figured out, going unsaved hc runs, you get free 99s and 100 for ilvl, cause nobody at 721 would do hc boosts xdd

humble verge
red schooner
analog field
#

I tried the same yesterday and I couldn't break my 97's on most. Only frac and dimi I got better logs

#

Was a very scuffed boost, not many people dealing good dmg

humble verge
#

i just wanna fix my soulbinder and soulhunter Sadge

opaque sky
#

Did numbers change his name wtf

#

@marsh fjord save me

tawny geyser
normal mist
#

more damage

humble verge
#

what he said

pure moth
#

I got a 99 on frac.. but the others not so much hahaha

humble verge
#

i went from 5m to the log i have now on frac xd

#

i realized

#

was doing 6m on details

#

and there was a fakkin aug eboning me

pure moth
#

Ah

#

4/8 fights im 92 + the others nah

vivid yarrow
#

Team. I am a survival hunter and I just wanted to than you guys for sharing all of the daggers in Midnight.

pure moth
#

Wait what?

normal mist
#

yes

#

Survival hunter can now use one handers and daggers

pure moth
#

Interesting. Guess it makes sense

barren shuttle
#

Mail sets with dagger will go so hard for tmog

mint valve
#

how do you sim the boe rings?

coral ibex
#

i refuse to share drops THAT ARE MY RIGHT AS A ROGUE

keen spruce
#

Surv hunters aren’t as stinky as the other flavors

#

They can have leftovers

coral ibex
#

get your grubby hunter mitts off of my agi daggers

keen spruce
coral ibex
#

or ill have to post the gromnak clip again

nova aspen
#

its ok no1 will play surv hunter anyway

waxen oyster
#

how do you loot daggers from the bench

nova aspen
#

unless they magically were given utility

vivid yarrow
quaint nimbus
#

I live about an hour away from my guild’s survival hunter
If they take my daggers I will show up to their house and fist fight them irl

vivid yarrow
#

You sure you want to do that? Every survival hunter main I know is unhinged.

quaint nimbus
#

I am more unhinged

vivid yarrow
#

Unhinged enough to main survival hunter?

quaint nimbus
#

Unhinged enough to keep playing assassination rogue regardless of if it’s good or even fun to play

sleek night
#

What does everyone think about the cancellation of WAs and how do you think it’ll affect rogue in midnight?

mossy sundial
#

Surv hunters thinking they are even getting into the raid to have a chance at my daggers

digital gyro
#

So I just started the spec (mainly M+) and I'm a tad bit confused on single target. Is there some general rule for when it's ok to press mutilate so you don't run out of energy to refresh rupture/crimson tempest or just need to spam more keys until I get it down

normal mist
#

prio in ST is DN/rupture/ct/garrote then envenom

urban shale
#

for this to work double jeopardy do I have to do anything else then just pressing vanish and a generator ?

normal mist
#

you can mutilate all you want but you gotta make sure you get the PRIO correct

royal lantern
#

when like

#

how many survival hunters did you see in your raid in the last 3months lol

royal lantern
#

what kind of cursed raidcomp is that

#

not even cus of survival

#

but how many melee do you have lol

severe meadow
#

I don’t make the rules

#

9 I think

#

We have more melee than ranged

golden loom
#

@humble verge fract pugs are meta Pog

golden loom
#

its legit so free now

waxen oyster
#

i mean the wa plays the boss for you

#

XD

humble verge
#

xd

golden loom
#

yeah also araz u just put puddles behind

humble verge
#

it always has tho

golden loom
#

and if tanks can think

#

it dies