assassination

[opaque sky]

wtf

[marsh fjord]

HAHHAHAHA

What the hjelly

[severe meadow]

Ain’t no way

[real pike]

it's just a nice bit of nature you guys

[marsh fjord]

100% that gets removed

[real pike]

idk where your filthy minds are going

have a ward

word

[opaque sky]

I dont even rmeember how to change

Remember

[marsh fjord]

at roles

you gotta undo the sub role

and then pick the assa

Here

[real pike]

can I have 2 roles

yo the plot thickens

riddle me that

[red schooner]

Toggle the sin one off and on again

And it may work

[real pike]

or

[opaque sky]

Alright

[real pike]

and hear me out here

[opaque sky]

Someone remind me to pop CD's on pull for soulbinder

Not wait for envenom

[real pike]

I remain with my assass allegiance and yellow name

in honour of the once great spec

[real pike]

is that a thing

accelerated opener is back???

https://tenor.com/view/oh-i-member-south-park-s20e1-member-berries-member-gif-20603952

[opaque sky]

So I can have CD's for adds

[real pike]

I feel like I don't need to do that to have CDs up for adds

like the rest of adds bit where they all come

isn't bang on 2 min for our fights

it's like 2.10

[opaque sky]

Are we rupturing

Or not

Just tunnel boss yeah?

[real pike]

I rupture snipe with SBS points

[severe meadow]

I never held on soulbinder

What would you even hold for, lineup with adds?

[real pike]

yeah when the 2 big groups of adds come

one is around 2min and the other 4.30

you definitely hold for the 4.30 set

[severe meadow]

Pad demons

[opaque sky]

Alright

Gimme loom tips

Send CD on pull, after tangle?

[real pike]

what else is there to do on a farm boss

[severe meadow]

Fair I guess

[real pike]

send CDs on CD, try to avoid tangles, consider holding CDs if the amp is VERY soon

[red schooner]

Just send on CD, don't hold for p2 unless its like 10 seconds away

[severe meadow]

Send on pull, cloak the big aoe

[opaque sky]

Big one?

The move out?

[red schooner]

Ye

[opaque sky]

I can just cloak that?

[severe meadow]

Can shadowstep out to drop tangles if needed

[opaque sky]

[red schooner]

Yup

[opaque sky]

I was like

I dont want to test

[severe meadow]

Tether rather

Yeah you can cloak it

[opaque sky]

Just incase it has some fucky wucky mechanic and hits through cloak

[severe meadow]

I do my testing in heroic usually

I even voice in comms

“I’m either about to die or not”

[opaque sky]

Yeah but this is my second week

[real pike]

you can't cloak the tether tho

[clever sparrow]

do we get upgrade discount on 11.2.5?

[real pike]

big sad

[real pike]

isn't this literally always true at all times

[severe meadow]

Yeah but standing in the big aoe and dying makes me look like an ape

More so than usual

[real pike]

I do quite a lot of 'limit testing' in my keys

but I only call it after I die

[severe meadow]

I haven’t done a single key in almost two weeks

[marsh fjord]

Limit test excuse helped me many times

[marsh fjord]

you dont cap your vault?

[severe meadow]

Nah

I get my 6 mythic raid fills and afk

[real pike]

bloody bastard

[marsh fjord]

Bro my RL doesnt even allow that

[real pike]

I had 5/8 mythic the last 2 weeks and got antenna in the far right slot the last 2 weeks

[marsh fjord]

we need to cap our vault lol

[real pike]

so

that's fun

we have to get 2 m+ slots min

[severe meadow]

I mean outside of like

One item I don’t even need dungeon loot

[real pike]

once you don't need dungeon loot I get it

[marsh fjord]

Nah but you missing 3 myth track items everry week

[severe meadow]

I’m like 3 items from full myth and dungeon gear isn’t going to fill those spots

[marsh fjord]

What items?

[severe meadow]

Trinket and boots

Belt too but it’s not a dps gain to replace rn

I have mythic antenna and heroic prism

And normal tier hunter boots

[real pike]

we're extending from now so no more mythic raid slots

cbaaaaaaaaaaa

stuck with hero trinkets for ever

[severe meadow]

We’re going to extend after turbo I think

[real pike]

and boots

[marsh fjord]

Ngl this raid is kinda good to extend

[red schooner]

We're still reclearing for now. Its alright

[marsh fjord]

if your raid team has the trinkets

[real pike]

bro

I can't actually tell you how unlucky we've been with trinkets

[severe meadow]

Question if anyone knows actually

We think boots can be purchased with coin?

Dinar

[marsh fjord]

yes

[real pike]

we've cleared heroic and mythic every week and we've seen 1 antenna and 1 ritual forge

[marsh fjord]

ofcourse

[real pike]

I am not exaggerating

[severe meadow]

Hell yeah

[real pike]

1 of each

over both difficulties

[marsh fjord]

its cantrip items + weapons + trinkets

[severe meadow]

We’ve seen two antennas and NO leather boots

[real pike]

we've only killed mythic hunters once

we skipped them last week

:))

hence 5/8 raid vault

[severe meadow]

Fair, fight kinda blows

[opaque sky]

P2 loom is just 50% right

Not timer?

[real pike]

yeah

[severe meadow]

Yes

[real pike]

nope

[marsh fjord]

i actually bought the HC boots of this random guy for 350k

in a HC pug a few weeks ago

[opaque sky]

I got them today 😄

[severe meadow]

Based

[opaque sky]

And I swear my dps went down

[real pike]

I don't even have 350k

[real pike]

are you wearing the cloak?

[marsh fjord]

Can you imagine

[real pike]

kekw

[marsh fjord]

if he doesnt wear the cloak

Neko is searching for a cloak in his bags now

i can already tell

[severe meadow]

Sweating bullets

[marsh fjord]

jay do you have the gilded achievement already?

[severe meadow]

No bc belt and trinket

I have a myth belt to rip but I’m holding crests

[opaque sky]

Cloak..?

Like Cloak of Shadows?

[severe meadow]

I’m like 718 or 719 tho

[marsh fjord]

No reshii wraps bro

[marsh fjord]

Ah oke

[severe meadow]

Honestly I might gear up an alt

Haven’t done that yet

[opaque sky]

THERE'S A MOP LEGENDARY CAPE

SITUATION GOING ON?

[severe meadow]

Neko are you okay

[jaunty sky]

Neko whats your gear rn

[opaque sky]

I just looked up reshi wraps

[marsh fjord]

Bro he must be trolling right

neko are you not trolling?

[opaque sky]

Yeah

sorry

[marsh fjord]

@opaque sky

[opaque sky]

I have cloak

[marsh fjord]

oh

[opaque sky]

1 week progress

[marsh fjord]

LOL

[opaque sky]

[real pike]

loooooool

[severe meadow]

Not the double crafted daggers

[real pike]

oh noooooooooooo

[opaque sky]

I STARTED

LAST WEEK

I also have a crafted sword

🙂

[real pike]

I hadn't seen that

hurts my soul

[severe meadow]

It’s just

Off hand is our least important slot

[real pike]

do u have the embellishments

[opaque sky]

Yeah but

[severe meadow]

I respect it either way

[opaque sky]

I kept swapping bteween all 3 specs

[severe meadow]

Do your shit king

[opaque sky]

So I just wanted 3 weapons

lol

[real pike]

yeah but

you're better off crafting literally anything else

[opaque sky]

I have recrafted MINIMUM 700k worth of times

[real pike]

and using a 704 dagger in OH

[opaque sky]

in 1 week

[normal mist]

Why

[severe meadow]

Dedication to rogue specs

I love rogue but I ain’t playjng outlaw

[jaunty sky]

If they made outlaw easier to gear for id swap to it every now and then

Its fun for reclears

[severe meadow]

Do you need the 20% haste or whatever?

[jaunty sky]

And weekly keys

Yeah

[severe meadow]

That’s rough yeah

[jaunty sky]

Haste is better than main stat until ~20%

[marsh fjord]

#outlaw

[jaunty sky]

Or whatever current breakpoint is

Its the haste and needing non dagger MH

[humble verge]

THE WEEK I FORGET TO DO HEROIC I GET FORGE IN NORMAL VERSION

[jaunty sky]

Were u gonna upgrade the hero track one to 710

[severe meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-anguish-despair-gif-13915908866750092639

[humble verge]

yes

[real pike]

you extending?

[humble verge]

dont know yet

its a 50/50 on the poll

[real pike]

why do you have 0 myth slots

[humble verge]

no

for this week

we extended last week

[severe meadow]

I’m sure you guys will one shot salad bar

[real pike]

I see

[severe meadow]

[humble verge]

SURELY

1 SHOT SA=DAS=OIJDIJOPKSADOPKJSADPKOA

[severe meadow]

I’m already tired of progging it

[humble verge]

well

atleast the wrists

have socket

[severe meadow]

Actually it’s not that bad of a fight

[humble verge]

[severe meadow]

Gotta be better than dimmy

[opaque sky]

Nuh uh

Dagger better OH for Outlaw

More poison more fun

🙂 🙂 🙂

OIh

Mh

Sorry I glanced mid pull

Disregard

[jaunty sky]

[severe meadow]

Seeing outlaw at their peak rn

[real pike]

I think salad bar is actually a really fun fight

[severe meadow]

I’d agree if I saw more of it probably

[opaque sky]

Since shadowstep puts me behind a target

[real pike]

the only part I don't like is the angle of the p1 beams sometimes fucks with my prediction of where they're going

[opaque sky]

Can I shadowstep a tangle

[severe meadow]

Idk how much more changes on mythic

[real pike]

if you press cloak first

[severe meadow]

We’re still progging p1 and platforms

[opaque sky]

Nope

Cloak gets used first aoe

😄

[real pike]

then no

[humble verge]

yay finally a dagger on my 2nd rogue

[real pike]

samesies

[severe meadow]

You can shadowstep the tangles tho

[real pike]

can you

[humble verge]

yes

[severe meadow]

Yes

[real pike]

I thought I tried it and died

my bad kings

[humble verge]

you land behind them

[severe meadow]

No it puts you behind it

[humble verge]

as well

[real pike]

like

[humble verge]

so youre outside the circle

[real pike]

you just skip over the fall?

wall

holy

[humble verge]

yes

[severe meadow]

Yeah

[real pike]

I must have been holding W

and ran into it

[severe meadow]

If you step the outside one

[humble verge]

but if youre threaded

to the boss

i wouldnt try

you can die

[severe meadow]

That’s how I always get out when tethered

But I’m a risk taker

[real pike]

I always hit boss from behind until the rings are about to close in

then sprint out

and ss back in

[severe meadow]

I do soaks behind the boss so I’m almost the same way

[humble verge]

well, i wish prism would be here

but its waduva

[severe meadow]

Time to level a 4th rogue

[humble verge]

aint no way

[severe meadow]

Lmao

[humble verge]

mountain dew has made seltzers

5% abv

[severe meadow]

wtf xd

[humble verge]

not too bad on my dh

[severe meadow]

Baja blast seltzer

[opaque sky]

Dude

Two things about Loom

One, NONE of my CD's line up cause I have to swap to tangle

Two

Fuck the double deathmark bug

[glacial stump]

Dont swap

[opaque sky]

My poor CD's get misalligned

T_T

[humble verge]

you dont

[glacial stump]

why you playing deathstalker

[humble verge]

if your guild

is lacking on tether damage

its your guilds problem

not yours

[opaque sky]

???? Fate bound bug

[glacial stump]

what about it

[humble verge]

wait

[opaque sky]

What

[humble verge]

are you playing DS on loom?

[opaque sky]

No

[severe meadow]

You play FB

[humble verge]

ok

[hollow smelt]

Hit your rl with the uno reverse when they tell you to swap

[opaque sky]

I dont know why he said DS

[golden loom]

he means the cdrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr bug

guys

[opaque sky]

Yeah

[severe meadow]

Also don’t swap

[severe meadow]

Yucky yucky

You will do none tangle damage and less boss damage

Swapping is grief

[opaque sky]

I think I'm cooked

[golden loom]

currently delvin on dk so I can craft a neck for 100k dps

[opaque sky]

3 days learning spec

Game sucks

Reroll BM Hunter

[severe meadow]

Those parses aren’t even bad lil bro

[humble verge]

peepeepoopoo

[opaque sky]

Unironically

I just dont know the fights well enough

[severe meadow]

Aren’t you progging

[opaque sky]

Yeah

[severe meadow]

I mean yeah, parses while progging is whatever

[opaque sky]

No only 99's 😠

[severe meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/boy-kisser-boykisser-boy-kisser-speech-bubble-boykisser-speech-bubble-speech-bubble-gif-4169251036245788516

Soulbinder time !!

Good luck

Oh wait you’re on loomi xd

[opaque sky]

lol

[humble verge]

wait wtf, they made that fucking skit into a comedy series

😭

[opaque sky]

Time to sim myself

Maybe turn this catalys this mythic helm into a set piece

Ok

Deathknight or hunter alt

[austere robin]

Why does my two Vers/mastery daggers sim higher than my two Haste/mastery daggers? Do we actually care about vers that much for it to do such?

I'm simming it as Fatebound in raidbots instead of Deathstalker though..

[analog field]

i would say haste is the worst for FB but in reality there is no worse, you want a little of everything

[austere robin]

so we dont avoid it as the pest? damn

[opaque sky]

Haste 🙂

[analog field]

for example i got alpha ring on vault but for dslice a crafted vers mast (or haste mast) is the best

[opaque sky]

The only haste I want is bloodlust and my sacbrood till I upgrade it to an antenna 🙂

Till I reroll Outlaw again

Then I need 20%

[austere robin]

I have more or less perfect gear for Outlaw

[opaque sky]

🙂 🙂 🙂

[austere robin]

Thanks!

[marsh fjord]

Outlaw best spec

am i right

[austere robin]

I wish it was

doing 1/3 of the effort as assa and doing 3x the dmg

[opaque sky]

I mean outlaw feels good on non-ST Fights

Then you get to loom and Plex

And average out no damage at all

Or at least I am

[marsh fjord]

The thing that i never liked about outlaw is that i gotta press 4000 buttons in 5 seconds

[opaque sky]

And it's not like I'm doing the spec wrong

I just.... dont burst

[marsh fjord]

Like i get there are faster specs around

but the speed of outlaw is insane

[spice surge]

Yeah thats fair but its not like the other rogue specs are doing too hot on those bosses either

[opaque sky]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/n4fjqa1xjcPKeJD7r2h54f

Wants me to put my pure verse ring on

[marsh fjord]

nice name

[opaque sky]

It's not my name

[jaunty sky]

Outlaw is really fun on bosses where u can keep close to 100% uptime

[opaque sky]

I always hide my name in public discords remember

Lol

[severe meadow]

So like none of them

[marsh fjord]

[glacial stump]

Youve not hidden it well enough 😉

[opaque sky]

It's true

But the people that I dont want to see are too dumb to look for it

[glacial stump]

Sick mog tho

[opaque sky]

Nah

That was temp

That was outlaw with a thunderfury mainhand

No longer 69% flat mastery

I really want two things from trading post

The red bandanna thingy

And jester outfit

Then Ican be a jester or raphael from ninja turtles lol

[severe meadow]

Ooo I forgot new trading post

[opaque sky]

Or get the dual flails with orange bandanna and be michaelego

Dual hnunchcks*

2jhours 30 till reset

The halloween shit looks amazing though

So there goes all my tokens

[severe meadow]

I got the rest of the week off so I’ll be home to degen soon

[opaque sky]

Tell you what

legion remix comes out

I play that till I get all the cloaks

then quit it

[severe meadow]

Yucky

[opaque sky]

Dude the cloaks look amazing

[severe meadow]

I don’t usually use cloaks in my mogs 3:

[opaque sky]

Have you seen them though

[severe meadow]

Nah

[opaque sky]

You sure you dont want them

[severe meadow]

They do look good, the problem when blizzard adds that unique looking shit is it doesn’t match stuff that well

[opaque sky]

But when it matches

[severe meadow]

But it might, I’d have to tinker with some stuff

[opaque sky]

You're gonna want it

[severe meadow]

What do you even do to unlock them

[opaque sky]

Not much honestly

It's just the raid which will be the annoying one

Which is the yellow mogs

But everything will fall over anyway

[severe meadow]

All raids on mythic

[opaque sky]

Yeah but dont forget, we have TWW abilities

And then 50000% increased stats and modifiers

Like it says do a 30 keystone

People were getting up to 80

lol

[severe meadow]

Maybe I do it, idk

Been grinding RuneScape

Taking all my time

[opaque sky]

I dont want to hear it

I did 2000 delves on boss release

And didnt see one unique

[severe meadow]

Delves

[oak tangle]

we locked in for H fractilus

[austere robin]

do we consider Prism as an "equip" trinket or on use trink? I mean if I'm saving it for specific moments anyways, can i use Prism + Myth Idol for M+?

[opaque sky]

On use

Use it as normal

On CD's

[austere robin]

Okay thanks!

[opaque sky]

Or so I'd assume, I dont have one

[severe meadow]

Bind it to vanish for FB

[opaque sky]

You cant double onuse at the same time..

[austere robin]

i have Antenna and prism on HC and Stone idon on Myth track

[severe meadow]

Prism better

[opaque sky]

Brother

Rich get richer

[austere robin]

I know I cant use at the same time, but was wondering if it's worth going both in M+ and save Prism for when it actually matters and send Idol on "Meh" pulls

[austere robin]

I went with Idol the very first vault this season and I was playing Outlaw so I just now got Prism

[severe meadow]

I don’t have prif on this character yet

[jaunty sky]

What was the kill time? 3.30min?

[severe meadow]

[severe meadow]

Bruh

On task?

[austere robin]

Well I have Lily too..

[opaque sky]

My 80 def pure lol

[real pike]

same

[severe meadow]

I got 3 of those in like 200kc

I farmed it for the group

Currently farming barrows

[oak tangle]

3:27

i think it ate some of my DM

[jaunty sky]

Yeah most likely

[oak tangle]

woulda been only the last tick

dm'ed at 3:12.7

[jaunty sky]

Only 6s of my 18 stack prism DM on fract

Ill need ppl to die so the fight is long enough now

[oak tangle]

my full set atm

i was beelining for a mega plexus parse, but we got shield at 0.6%

on myth tonight

and then fucked up the soak

[jaunty sky]

U also in a no padding possible group

[severe meadow]

Idk how tf ya'll parse dimmy

[jaunty sky]

Fatebound

Bid deeps

Send on cd

[marsh fjord]

The trick about dimmy is that you send your cooldowns on first platform and have them up when you reach dimmy

[severe meadow]

maybe unlucky

[jaunty sky]

Yeah the first platform is dead before first pushback sometimes

Also its hc

[marsh fjord]

If you use your cooldowns on second platform

and then you go down to dimmy

your cooldowns are super cursed

[severe meadow]

I feel like anytime I got gravity I was cursed

[jaunty sky]

Yeah you are

Just dont get it

[severe meadow]

simply

[jaunty sky]

I yoink mass every time

Which i think makes u less likely to get it

You gotta lose some uptime to soak the ppl with gravity

But its better than being stuck in the air

[oak tangle]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/QFnbqV9TP4yJ6gkN?fight=142&type=damage-done&cutoff=3

woulda been high 90's i tihnk

[desert crest]

Not less likely u just can't get it

otherwise who would pull you down

urself?

[jaunty sky]

Nah we def had ppl with mass get gravity

In 10man

Maybe its just 10man memes but it happened

Or it got fixed idk

[desert crest]

probably is

[rain nexus]

Hello guys
I got the lily in the vault, and I'm lost in which are the best combination of trinkets for raid and mm+.
Can you give me your advice ?
I have :

• Lily M+
• Araz hm
• Ara kara eggs hm
• Empowering Crystal of Anub'ikkaj hm

I know I miss the prism and antenna ..
Is it usable to have to active and use araz + lily in raid ?

[plush isle]

which renown level is this week ?

[marsh fjord]

You can go to 9

[plush isle]

thanks 😉

[marsh fjord]

np

[marsh fjord]

For fatebound

Lily + any other statstick

For DS. prob the crystal ( depends on item level) + a stat stick.

The thing you want to remember is that its just best to sim yourself

[rain nexus]

Thanks, that's what the sim is telling me

But I'm not sure about MM+ best trinkets tho

[marsh fjord]

You can also sim that in Dslic

Just change it from patchwork to Dslic

and then click the trinkets again

my cloak enchant

lol

[zinc vale]

XD

dogshit luck

[desert crest]

belt is good no?

[marsh fjord]

Yikes lol

Yeah can take belt for next week

to swap it around

[opaque sky]

I'm beginning to understand it now

[rancid nimbus]

in dungeons.. du you line up lilly with every dm ? or every 2nd dm ?

[opaque sky]

I run signet for dungeons

Or else yes

Line it up

[rancid nimbus]

signet better for dungeons then? 🙂

[opaque sky]

Same ilvl, 300 mastery vs 5 seconds extra

You tell me

[rancid nimbus]

xD

okay. thy!

[opaque sky]

There we go

Much better

[severe meadow]

skellington

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/dies-cat-dead-died-gif-13827091

bruh, last 4 vaults where all socket

[spice surge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1143988582437101608/1422909883619086437/image.png?ex=68de6398&is=68dd1218&hm=ccfaacdb7d845aaaa5b899515011c0416d46fc65586b93baa4cda157623bf8ec&

[opaque sky]

@marsh fjord If I reroll hunter

Can you carry me thanks

🙂

[main bridge]

If you’re playing hunter you do the carrying

Well most of the time. Somehow there are still FOTMers that suck at the one button spec

[opaque sky]

I mean for my first set of dungeons to get basic gear :^)

I realise I haven't been a ranged dps since before legion

I might unironically main a hunter next xpac

Cause worse comes to worse I fall back to survival hunter and its busted as all fuck since no one plays it

And gets buffed :^)

[main bridge]

Goood luck with that

We all know what happens to specs nobody plays….cough rogue

[opaque sky]

Ahahaha

[marsh fjord]

SURE BRO

[spring briar]

this is bullshit

[zinc creek]

rings are good

for sub u can also get the m+ ring, since you kinda wanna play sub on last two

[royal lantern]

lol

lmao

playing sub

[zinc creek]

okok if you dont want to

thats fine

altho i find assa a bit boring of a spec but i do play all 3

nice tier also to practice all of them you have 4 sub fights 3 assa fights and an outlaw fight

if you are new to the other two specs

[royal lantern]

im not new, i just rather press alt+f4 then playing sub (or outlaw since DF)

[zinc creek]

a bit boring but ok

im falling asleep on assa

[royal lantern]

and tbf, we allready have no reason to swap specs, dmg is no issue anywhere

[zinc creek]

ye i mean i agree its just a bit fun to diversify sometimes

but not to everyone i see

[royal lantern]

i play the other specs again when they dont make me wanna shut down my PC

[zinc creek]

why do they even like pros and cons right now

of all 3

im curious

like i can get that some ppl cant do outlaw cuz they say their fingers hurt after or watever

[strange moss]

for sin can u use fist weapon off-hand?

[zinc creek]

if you can press abilities while you have a fist weap offhand then yeah i guess

[red schooner]

No

[zinc creek]

cuz dmg doesent matter that much

[red schooner]

Mutilate needs 2 daggers

[zinc creek]

ah what is mutilate

just use sinister

[royal lantern]

sub/assa are fulltime daggers

as it should be, real rogues use daggers

[zinc creek]

cmon tryan

why dont you like sub at least

is it just roleplay elements or you dont like the gameplay things around it

[royal lantern]

because its a unfocused mess of stuff stacked on top of eachother, thats always just gets % buffs put on it to distract from all its problems

[zinc creek]

unfocused mess of stuff?

[main nimbus]

For M+ +10 Cleave is a good idea instead of Bleed?

[glacial stump]

Not seen a single good vault this week

[main nimbus]

Im not doing a lot of dmg with bleed this weeks

[zinc creek]

ah its because this week bleeds are a bit nerfed its week of the poison

[royal lantern]

cleave is not played for like, 3 seasons now

ESPECIALLY not in low content

[zinc creek]

oh okay so you are here but you just dont wanna elaborate

okayge

[main nimbus]

Ik, but seeing my dmg in m+ comparing with Raid is a bit sad

[royal lantern]

[royal lantern]

well yeha, assa boss dmg in m+ just sucks, cant change that really

[main nimbus]

Im doing +10, so its better then?

[royal lantern]

no

[somber sparrow]

on soul hunters is there any trick to get all 3 to stand together within the first couple of seconds, i feel like i have to move around to get the first garrote and rupture and CT on all three, but maybe that's normal

[weary stump]

Sure you can, by going in as ST build and bricking the key

[main nimbus]

Im seeing that, im top 3 in dmg in raid, ans in m+ im top 3 too but on the low end hahaha

[plain solstice]

I really feel like 13+ keys are sucking for me with a bleed build and I can't keep up with ST to stay top damage...

[zinc creek]

its a +10

i literally sit my alt afk on the start

and play the key

[weary stump]

God bless

[zinc creek]

dont let em gaslight you into thinking you have to play optimal specs for raid fights or talents for dungeon

see tryan is playing assa last two

[plain solstice]

i feel validated thx

[royal lantern]

"cleave" was a thing for like

S1 +20 keys

thats it

it doesnt exists anymore rn lol

[main nimbus]

Yay

[austere robin]

does Shadowmeld into Stealth macro work? if so, does anyone have it

[main nimbus]

I will need to continue with bleed then

I was reading the talents in wow head i was thinking of trying it

[analog field]

Very high keys are like +20 and this season with the tier set buff still bleed should be better there

10 is like press only mutilate and still time

[main nimbus]

Lets see how this week goes then

I hope i improve a bit my M+

[pure bridge]

No, thats completely on your tanks to move them. Within the first 2-3 seconds they should be all pretty much on top of each other until the middle guy does his dash away.

[real pike]

starting to see why my parse was so wank

[rain nexus]

Is the sim in Dsclic really good ?
Seems like the lys is really not that great :
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/h6uTfygSXghKvZJA9e21ZX

[marsh fjord]

let me see

[marsh fjord]

yeah this make sense

because DS is 2 minut spec

and lily is 1:30

[oak tangle]

lfr tanks made an effort to tank them away from each other, so i just walked out of the arena to kill myself

[rain nexus]

Yeah true, seems better to run araz + crystal too, instead of araz end egg in mm+
But lys + egg seems a really big improvement in my raid so i'll take the lys in the vault 🙂

[bright path]

guys a noob question.What else can you craft besides everforged stabber ,till you get your bis 720?i am atm bs 710 mostly

[oak tangle]

not sure what you mean, the stabber is 720 with gilded

[bright path]

yeah. I mean besides the stabber,any other armor piece ?like wrists?I got a champion bis wrist .Shall i craft a 720 one?

[oak tangle]

i would, specifically if you have the ascension on dagger

[rain nexus]

Wrist for sure

[bright path]

i got 710 m+ bis dagger and a 720 everforged stabber

[humble verge]

WELL WELL WELL

we are doing reclear this week

[oak tangle]

i have crafted -> dagger, wrist, ring,ring

i'll likely craft a neck next, but that will be in a few weeks after i have the gilded

[humble verge]

whar

[glacial stump]

Bro ive crafted, belt, wrists, neck and dagger

[humble verge]

4 crafts

i have only crafted dagger and chest

[glacial stump]

oh and ring

[oak tangle]

we don't all do early mythic prog, as AOTC only a crafted piece is just 10 ilvl on anything i can get elsewhere

[humble verge]

true...

[glacial stump]

I started late so missed like 4/5 vaults

[static glacier]

that will become meaningless in a few weeks, no worries needed

[glacial stump]

Yeah it more that i dont have much gear to send crests in to

yet

[oak tangle]

yeah my mage has not many myth pieces, so i'm able to just sit on gilded

it's at 713

[pure bridge]

Well yeah, its LFR. I guess in my context, it would be wild for any raiding guild to have tanks that actively sabotage raid dps, especially in Mythic where this fight is kinda cancer.

[subtle tundra]

still buggered?

🧀

cheesed

[austere robin]

As stone idol active dmg is Nature, does it spread on Caustic? :>

heres to hoping

[oak tangle]

yeah, i mean my heroic guilds often drag them out, which may sometimes be necessary now, but early when we were going into the third intermission it's just crazy panic before it's due

[ancient ingot]

guys i sim 712ilvl and getting 4.606 dps, kinda low no? or i do something wrong

[oak tangle]

read pins

[ancient ingot]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/t4ARBNHMWhPycyPh6xs7S6

[oak tangle]

it's not low

716 i sim 4.9

[red schooner]

I may be destroying a third antenna

[oak tangle]

BRO

[ancient ingot]

ty

[oak tangle]

i would be far more mad had i not finally got hero prism this week

but BRO

[subtle tundra]

im proud of you

[red schooner]

I keep getting antennas, and it keeps not being the best thing in the vault

[subtle tundra]

your smile is the best thing in every vault.

[red schooner]

[static glacier]

for now your best bet is just sending crests into as many crafted pieces as you can then you're just waiting

next week we get 2 extra upgrades

[glacial stump]

thats the plan

[oak tangle]

this cooks my plan for crafted items

i need uncapped NOW

[static glacier]

ive got two sparks

just chilling

i don't think they're gonna see use before uncap

[humble verge]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/9pZtDXCeipDVZAfQkcUkDE crazy i lost like 300k because they fixed sims

[static glacier]

well three but im fairly sure a neck craft will be an upgrade

[oak tangle]

can't upgrade my last non 710 piece

[static glacier]

can we start cooking optimal ways of absuing the bug

[normal mist]

Logging out is probably top on the list

[vast patio]

tragic

[oak tangle]

also, curiously, someone has a differing log to me on a fight, how does that work? when i upload my logs it goes from an 89 to a 95

[vast patio]

same. I'm not even spending crests this week @.@

saving 30 per weapon, trinket and craft, oof

[oak tangle]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Wq7P1xZkjnDVty2d?fight=32&type=damage-done
Theirs ^

Mine
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/QFnbqV9TP4yJ6gkN?fight=131&type=damage-done

[pure bridge]

Probably different platforms.

[oak tangle]

hmm, he was trying to rob me of 500k dps

[humble verge]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/1fTND4Ga2DjVWCksqYoFuu how is my sub sim not that far behind 😭

[ancient ingot]

what should happening on next week, some patch?

[oak tangle]

we get +2 to all tracks on H and M loot

[fresh kelp]

If the logger is more than 100m away from you then sectec clones will not be attributed to you

[oak tangle]

ahhh

[fresh kelp]

you need to have someone on your side log nexus king to get an accurate result

[oak tangle]

sweet, lucky i always log

but yeah i looked at logs and originally thought that wcl was not including add damage of something

[ancient ingot]

good, but what with craft gear?

[oak tangle]

same

[vast patio]

same deal

gotta recraft with a item that costs 30 crests

[oak tangle]

you know those extra things you can buy at the enchanter, there'll be new ones for this season

[ancient ingot]

and when i craft now he just up or ...

[oak tangle]

4th slot

in recraft

[ancient ingot]

ah

okay ty

and aniway if i want craft something on my alt i should w8 next week?

[oak tangle]

450 gilded

in total to upgrade all your bits

don't have to wait, but you can

save you from recrafting

[ancient ingot]

hm okay ty

i have a question about loom, should i wait with 2 dm or just use when up?

[royal lantern]

i mean, depeends on when you push

if you go into p2 in 10 seconds, sure wait

otherwhise just send tbh

[ancient ingot]

i saw my logs and difference with good ppls they use 3 dm and on my logs i use 2, ig i was wait a lot)

[royal lantern]

sitting on CDs is often not reaaally good

if you miss out on a cast of something, you screwed up

more casts of an ability = better, thats a general rule for everything

you only really delay cds if it doesnt end up with you actually using the cd less often trought out the fight

[ancient ingot]

but on king ig we should w8 3rd dm on titan ye?

[unborn rain]

no

arw u lusting intermission?

the dragon dance or whatever

[royal lantern]

if you use cds on the platform titan, you have cds again for the dragon dmg amp

[spice surge]

On mythic*, on heroic you can end up pushing him earlier which skews the timer

[ancient ingot]

i saw this message but my 3rd cd dont up, ig i do something wrong or have 2 mech in a row

[royal lantern]

tbh, i kinda expected somebody that just started to do heroic to not push the boss too fast

[unborn rain]

yeah

[royal lantern]

but ye, eleem is right there

[static glacier]

on myth saladbar you get dm halfway through the platform

[unborn rain]

theres the 6% dmg boost now too

[static glacier]

if you send on cd p1

[ancient ingot]

hero

[royal lantern]

9% next week

[unborn rain]

yeah

so dont cend dm on any platform

[spice surge]

Thats fair, just depends on what group they end up in

[unborn rain]

u can prob send a kb with cb

[oak tangle]

that 6% bodes well for my plexus parse

[unborn rain]

but u might have to hope it bugs and is up back for lust

[oak tangle]

will slap the second shield sub 35%

[marsh fjord]

Midnight deep is startin guys

If you want to see it 🙂

[royal lantern]

ye, thats what im doing rn

cds on pull and during p1 end again, and they get up again a bit into platforms and should be up for dragon dmg amp (we didnt reach that one yet)

[unborn rain]

just ping us if something cool is announced for rogue

[oak tangle]

do we know approx duration?

[humble verge]

midnight deep dive

on twitch rn

i actually didnt realize, midnight being the 12th expansion

[unborn rain]

start the fix rogue spam

im old

jk

[humble verge]

i started

[rotund oak]

no hello no anything,raw and unbound

[humble verge]

who is this artistic child

[unborn rain]

silvermoon so pretty

in 10 minutes i can join the fix rogue spam

[static glacier]

ye it will be for the second half of the dmg amp if you send on cd for the entire pull before it, one tip is to accelerate the opener

otherwise you'll just lose end of kb before intermission and your kb on titan will also be overkill

so just skipping the mut > env before shiv dm kb in opener

and going shiv after rupture

[royal lantern]

idk

me no think

me smash

[humble verge]

i truly hope

i spent my 2,4m on midnight epic

for a reason

[weary stump]

Don't you know 23r00000, integral member of our community here

[humble verge]

no, i fear not

[weary stump]

Tragic

[humble verge]

wait

[rotund oak]

💀

[humble verge]

suramar delve

we are going into arcway delve

WHAR

[oak tangle]

YOOO NO BRAN

VALEERA

[unborn rain]

valeera waifuu

[humble verge]

AINT NO WAY

WE ARE GETTING A KILLING SPREE

I WISH

[unborn rain]

rogue bath salts smoke bomb

[humble verge]

rogue healing, rogue tank

[unborn rain]

new rogue lust

we got this

[main bridge]

i wonder if Valeera will fall through the world when she uses KS

[humble verge]

PauseChamp

[oak tangle]

aint no way we get untouched when the delve leader is literally us

[humble verge]

lmao

[humble verge]

i imagine its the same old animation instead of the new lmao

[unborn rain]

what are odds we get that aoe poison bomb that buffs party members

[static glacier]

it'll depend on your group's dps if it's cooked for titan or not, for me not speeding up made titan dps get fucked up

[weary stump]

Will valeera lose more armor like bran as seasons go, to appeal to the people horny on delve main

[humble verge]

well, poison bomb only last for like half a second

[static glacier]

ended up with titan dying with like 6s of kb left

[unborn rain]

its over

i meant that one they just showed on livestream thi

[static glacier]

hella low

[royal lantern]

no, she gets transmog recommendations from #transmog

[unborn rain]

its jover

[static glacier]

im fairly sure they'll base it around an iconic cd

we press

[unborn rain]

smoke bomb

nuke ur raids fps

[static glacier]

kekw

[weary stump]

I hope she's like me and doesn't transmog at all

[static glacier]

if I had to guess for sin it's going to be between envenom / kb / dm / shiv and rupture

[unborn rain]

chatgpt wrote this summary

[static glacier]

or garotte

[oak tangle]

delves look cool

but i dont see them being a long time thing

[unborn rain]

there are so many random descriptives? descriptors

[marsh fjord]

They are here to stay

[static glacier]

I think there's potential

I'd like to see torghast powers come back for delves, delves increased in difficulty and rewards

issue is my perspective isn't super valuable since Im deffo more hardcore than the intended audience

[humble verge]

void elf

pogga

[oak tangle]

vegan furries

[unborn rain]

the casual hunter who only collects pets and logs in 7x a week is worth more

[royal lantern]

??

[humble verge]

no haranir dk

[royal lantern]

delves are a giga sucess and are biogtime popular lol

[static glacier]

the issue is I can complete tier 11 delves day 1 of a patch on alts with old patch gear

[unborn rain]

yeah

[oak tangle]

like my and alot of this discord communioty playing them into the patch

[static glacier]

the whole progression system for it fails if you play the game competitively

[royal lantern]

yes, we are also not their target audience

[humble verge]

delves doesnt have the same issue as torghast tho

being really hard

[unborn rain]

this

[static glacier]

there's no meaning to the curios or the upgrade track for bran etc

[humble verge]

since u can skip a lot

[unborn rain]

we will sub to play w guildies

[gaunt quiver]

!fok

[prisma monolith]

Fok Conditions Post-Buff
Fan of Knives as a generator to replace ambush/mutilate:

• Baseline 3+ targets, -1 if talented into momentum of despair and thrown precision, +1 if talented into vicious venoms, +1 if talented into blindside. (Generally 5 with raid build, 3 with Bleed m+, 2 with Hybrid m+)
  Fan of Knives with Clear the Witnesses Up:
• Baseline 2+ targets, -1 if lingering darkness is up or you aren't talented into vicious venoms. With Vicious Venoms casting during lingering darkness is dps neutral.
  Fan of Knives with Darkest Night Up:
• Only on 2+ targets, or without Vicious Venoms talented. This is also a very very minor optimization

The most important to remember is the generator rules, clear the witnesses and darkest night optimizations can be effectively ignored as they are not meaningful DPS improvements

[unborn rain]

so our money is guaranteed

[royal lantern]

holy shit silvermoon is london? 2 people stabbing eachother in a alley

[oak tangle]

i meant that they look more interesting than the current delves, but im not likely to do them past seeing what they are about

[humble verge]

we love stabbing other people

[static glacier]

moreso I loved torghast's roguelike elements of trying to make a stronger build per run, stuff like highrolling all the common evisc dmg upgrades then hitting one of the epic powers than juices that

ye ik torghast wasn't fun due to tuesday night (or monday for na) chore of having 2-4 chars to run it on

[unborn rain]

torg was fun

[static glacier]

the content wasn't the problem imo

[humble verge]

delve is in itself

[unborn rain]

but yeah very chorelike

[humble verge]

much easier

[static glacier]

it was the rewards gated behind it

[humble verge]

but serves a bigger audience

because of the love of the gamemode

[static glacier]

and the compulsion to do it or be behind forever

if they can actually nail the algorithm generating delves

tune the difficulty

and have rewards useful beyond first week

[unborn rain]

why no world tiers tho

[static glacier]

i'd love it

[unborn rain]

yall ready to gather wood for some furniture

i hope i can paint my io outside of my crackhead looking house

[humble verge]

NO PVP

LETS GO

EARLY DECEMBER

WHATTEFAKK

[unborn rain]

was that housing

or midnight

[humble verge]

idfk

lol

[unborn rain]

CHRIS METZEN

ILY

[balmy condor]

Housing obviously

[unborn rain]

https://tenor.com/view/obviously-snape-harry-potter-gif-5508473

[worldly sail]

you can paint it using decor to build the numbers

[royal lantern]

what

[visual sun]

rogue devs funnelled to housing, housing bugs on release confirm

[balmy condor]

Expansion in December would be stupid lmao

[humble verge]

has

[royal lantern]

it literally said 2026 mate

[humble verge]

to be housing

[unborn rain]

lmfaoooo

[royal lantern]

[worldly sail]

yeah he said

[unborn rain]

q and a in 10

[worldly sail]

you can do housing early december if you have midnight

[unborn rain]

FLOOD THE ZONE

only rogue questions

[royal lantern]

early acess to housing was known since you can preorder tbh

[golden loom]

wat da helly WOTLK dungeon in m+

1 step closer to deadmines

[fallow canopy]

pos? holy fuck

[marsh fjord]

Kinda fun!

I dont like skyreach or seat as much

[oak tangle]

dafuq is AA doing back already

[royal lantern]

seat

seat

[marsh fjord]

but the rest is fine

[royal lantern]

SEAT

where can i cancle

[marsh fjord]

Seat is annoying 😄

[oak tangle]

they'll rework for sure

no need to worry

kinda funny tho for seat to be there AFTER locus walker

who's Q&A is this Q&A

[golden loom]

kalamazi just released the floodgates

[humble verge]

yeah imma refund

[oak tangle]

5 minuter sedan

[humble verge]

the game

[oak tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/forza-horizon4-subaru-legacy-rs-drift-drifting-snow-gif-27467734

[golden loom]

LOG IN

[subtle tundra]

assa good in midnight?

[unborn rain]

is this real

[left berry]

any way to sim all different soleah stats at once?

[balmy condor]

Yes

[hollow smelt]

Chat are we cooked

[haughty flicker]

its just spend combo points now

instead of envenom specifically

[golden loom]

HOLY

[subtle tundra]

the spec got better hells yeah

[oak tangle]

are we reworked AF?

[analog field]

what is this

[subtle tundra]

still a debuff on the enemy

[analog field]

alpha ?

or what?

[burnt star]

so is sub!

[haughty flicker]

reworked out of the game

[oak tangle]

garrote being the DSM instead of ambush got me pogging

[jolly stirrup]

Wtf is that

[oak tangle]

makes it's cd feel meaningful-ish kinda

[spice spire]

Saved

Ambush gabagool button

[subtle tundra]

anything short of deleting deathstalkers mark is a fail

👍

[near valley]

wai

[near valley]

aoe blind is 80% cdr

and not 50%

[subtle tundra]

bruh

[royal lantern]

thats one of those things they will test for a month and revert

[fallow canopy]

symbolic victory and shadowheart still exist

[subtle tundra]

i cant believe how busted aoe blind dr is and noone abused it

yeah it doesnt work on every mob

[marsh fjord]

Delivered doom changed is also a very good thing

[haughty flicker]

they made clear the witnesses just flat damage on fok

that actually makes me kinda sad

i liked ctw after dn

[golden loom]

[zealous moth]

Goodbye sweet child

[haughty flicker]

f mastery

[zealous moth]

You will be missed

[visual sun]

whispyr where assassination midnight pins

[fallow canopy]

same with corrupt the blood

[subtle tundra]

just delete it

[fallow canopy]

its just + dmg now

[haughty flicker]

yeah but corrupt the blood didnt have any gameplay attached

[oak tangle]

there is a channel for it

[haughty flicker]

makes sense though

[oak tangle]

look down

[haughty flicker]

didnt ask + L + ratio

[normal mist]

where you seeing all these changes?

[royal lantern]

blizz akwardly trying to make haste usefull for sub/outlaw instead of doing spec changes