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balmy condor
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just proc

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if they don't proc they're just fine

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that's the point

fresh kelp
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they are still more than fine even when not proccing well

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they just become a god when they do

balmy condor
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people go "oh my god hunter is insane" cause they open 99 percentile and see huge giga dam

thorn thorn
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BM also beats some specs in their raid build while in their M+ build uglyassdog

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BM is funny

golden loom
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Just proc

fresh kelp
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you can look at average percentile data for a spec well known to attract a lower skilled playerbase and see that even the average BM parse is top 3

balmy condor
fresh kelp
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the spec is just insane

thorn thorn
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So if thats true then basically nothing?

golden loom
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Theres some changes

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Its weird tho, packleader BM is insane in some keys and dog in some keys, where you just play MM

thorn thorn
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Cuz stampede is giga op

golden loom
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And then dark ranger BM is like dawnbreaker and raid

balmy condor
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yeah I guess they change a couple

thorn thorn
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For aoe

balmy condor
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drop the left, take the middle

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basically what we do going from ds raid to cleave build

fresh kelp
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"its just their highroll bro"

balmy condor
golden loom
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Yeah the dark ranger build in m+ is even weirder

thorn thorn
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There is also the no multi you can play

fresh kelp
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if they don't proc its average!!

thorn thorn
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Which I like more

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Cuz I hate multi

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Cringe ass ability

golden loom
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Like I checked a banshers log and even tho he had multishot he pressed it like 15 times in a key

balmy condor
waxen oyster
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what if i play DR

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just to larp as sylvanas

thorn thorn
waxen oyster
fresh kelp
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the spec is disgusting regardless of proc rng

balmy condor
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you don't have to convince me BM is good ICANT

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I know it's good

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literally no one is saying anything other than that

thorn thorn
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He also was talking about MM initially

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Not BM

balmy condor
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I literally just said they have a casino hero talent that skyrocket to the moon

fresh kelp
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well the exact thing I was responding to was "if they don't proc they're just fine," in response to me saying they dont have to highroll to be strong

balmy condor
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okay?

fresh kelp
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but my point is that they are still top5 st while lowrolling

thorn thorn
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It was also MM not BM

balmy condor
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sure, I was talking about mm in the original thing

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but go off I guess

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I'm literally agreeing with you

golden loom
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Yeah I mean in your cds you get black arrow every 4 seconds regardless of procs so its still good, but it can thanos gamba to the moon garf

thorn thorn
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We love rng

fresh kelp
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im sorry ive just seen a lot of hunter cope lately

golden loom
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Black arrow is probably one of the more satisfying buttons to press tho

fresh kelp
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im fighting ghosts

thorn thorn
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Bro is shadowboxing himself

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Get zeross in here

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He got competition

balmy condor
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zeross the only mfer I've ever seen start an argument with himself and lose

thorn thorn
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Very true

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He is so real for that

marsh fjord
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wasnt he the person who tried to argue fatebound was good in m+

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in the start of the season

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of was that someone else

balmy condor
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it's zeross

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he will argue all 3 sides of a two-sided argument at some point in time

thorn thorn
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Zeross the type to lose a fight and act like they won

zenith tree
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I saw a new pin thinking it was spatter fix...

marsh fjord
zenith tree
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Spatter + Singular Focus in deathstalker?

marsh fjord
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Nope. not SF, but there is nothing wrong with spatter atm

zenith tree
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Oh well that's what I was refering to lol

marsh fjord
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It was after the spatter bug fix from 48% to 40%

lethal lynx
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I was told I'm not allowed to do good ST dps because our aoe pack-to-pack is so consistently good

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but then ret paladin exists

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and I think blizz just don't give a fuck

waxen oyster
waxen oyster
buoyant herald
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ret boss damage is pretty bad but they seem to enjoy lust at least

lethal lynx
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well yeah cause most rets have had a lobotomy at some point in their lives

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this ret in this 12 I just did, did like 4.2m on a ST boss

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sure it's not top but it's way more acceptable than what we get lmao

waxen oyster
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dks are truly busted

lethal lynx
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also first boss (eco-dome) and he was cleaving my fucking funnel trash

buoyant herald
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most im seeing are in the 2s to low 3s so that guy must be good

waxen oyster
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i just do dbs for now

buoyant herald
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similar to assass ๐Ÿ˜‚

waxen oyster
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so i end first boss as sub

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doing like 4

thorn thorn
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If you compare yourself to FDK you are setting youself up for failure

red schooner
thorn thorn
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That spec is something else in keys

waxen oyster
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Pug tank went wtf

red schooner
waxen oyster
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because i ended big momma at 20m

red schooner
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I'm just here I guess.

waxen oyster
lethal lynx
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he was 719 ilvl tbf

waxen oyster
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fucking 10 with 18 stack prism

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go brrr

lethal lynx
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and I died twice on 2 packs cause I forgot my inky black

thorn thorn
lethal lynx
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but I'm mad that he gets to play the most braindead spec and do good damage on everything

thorn thorn
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It was so fast we didnt have lust for the paladin packs

red schooner
waxen oyster
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he || blackfaces minion stickers || though

lethal lynx
waxen oyster
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dawnbreaker

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which is more a sub key

lethal lynx
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oh right

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yeah I wish I knew how to play sub good

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I'd just switch for the dungeons sin is trash at

waxen oyster
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once you understand the burst sequence

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thata 80% of the spec

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lmfao

lethal lynx
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I mostly get it but idk

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just can't perform when it matters CAUGHT

waxen oyster
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Yeah its a decent amount of practice

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you just need to sit down and hit things

thorn thorn
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Fair and balanced spec

red schooner
waxen oyster
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sometimes in pugs its super comical

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especially with this weekโ€™s sub 12 affix

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free cdr+20% versa

thorn thorn
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We also just nuked the shit out of the boss, cuz he applied with an arcane mage that also knew how to play

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So all the bosses just got yeeted out of existence

waxen oyster
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i just watched the emissary spawn during my cd start

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and instantly go away after 2nd coup cleaved it

thorn thorn
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I miss when brew could just touch the emissary and make it vanish instantly

thorn thorn
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Do you remember in S1 with the dispell affix in dawnbreaker

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If you ever failed it on the last boss the key just bricked cuz it healed too much

waxen oyster
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yeah

thorn thorn
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Fun times

waxen oyster
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iโ€™ve also rotted on first boss

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because healer doesnt heal

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before fly

thorn thorn
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Ok I wont lie im either going schizo but I always have a hard time on that boss when im playing resto, the hots feel like they are not contributing to the absorb at all and it irritates me

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When I play pres tho its just omega free

waxen oyster
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the worst is always

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rshams from my exp

thorn thorn
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The worst is fotm players in general

waxen oyster
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i dont get the logic behind fotm

thorn thorn
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If they play the op stuff they will do better

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And get invited more

waxen oyster
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Yeah i mean just play good

coral ibex
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im attempting to rid myself of elvui

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so many broken weakaura anchors

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surely this results in more fps in raid

marsh fjord
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Andy

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Have you seen the addon that frag ui has with unhalted

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its basically the same looks as elvui

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but without elvui @coral ibex

thorn thorn
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Me when half my guild cant play on patch day because they use elvui

marsh fjord
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Since i discovered there UI my FPs is really good in raidss

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stable 70-80

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@coral ibex this is how the dark profile looks

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and its not elvui

analog field
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I am interested in that too

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but I like having all of the things in one addon

marsh fjord
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just type in fragnance

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UI

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you dont have to do anything its just a pack

analog field
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oh ok I LL check tomorrow

coral ibex
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ive already fixed it BASED

marsh fjord
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Good

coral ibex
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have cell set up like atrocityui elvui

marsh fjord
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butt atrocity also using elvui

coral ibex
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yea but elvui is the reason my fps is low

marsh fjord
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yeah doesnt that mean

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you want to get rid of elvui?

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and atrocity has also elvui

coral ibex
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i use atrocityui and im getting rid of elvui and replacing it with cell

marsh fjord
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I understand that bro but what im saying is that atrocity main addon is elvui no?

waxen oyster
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i feel plater

marsh fjord
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or did he went away from it

coral ibex
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no its mostly the weakaura

waxen oyster
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is also a huge culprit

marsh fjord
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Oh

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Yeah plater/details

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and weakauras

thorn thorn
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Plater, Details and WA are all bandits for performance

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Especially WA

balmy condor
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plater/weakauras CAN be a huge issue depending on who and what

thorn thorn
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The more WA you have the worse it will get

marsh fjord
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Also enabling friendly name plates

balmy condor
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like some plater mods are fucking bananas overcoded

marsh fjord
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hurts a lot

thorn thorn
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If you have a ton of auras doing pointless shit its gonna have an impact

coral ibex
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im very sure its almost entirely elvui

balmy condor
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elvui is just straight up awful

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regardless of how you set it up

thorn thorn
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Yes

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Elvui is straight up a performance bandit

waxen oyster
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people out here

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importing afenar packs

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where 80% of the pack

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is useless info

marsh fjord
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There is this addon i dont know the name anymore of it but it shows you how much CPU what uses

waxen oyster
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The biggest wa hogs are usually

coral ibex
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pray for me, im running my 14th eco in 2 days

waxen oyster
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ones that dynamically update

marsh fjord
coral ibex
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need lily for my alt

marsh fjord
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second rogue?

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why bro ๐Ÿ˜„

waxen oyster
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alt rogue

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seek help

coral ibex
waxen oyster
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i alt dh but barely do shit on it

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besides hc first 6

coral ibex
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i just like rogue and had mostly leather wue gear

rotund oak
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by racials alone u need 1 human and 1 Orc for sure

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by looks as well

thorn thorn
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Show them the picture

humble verge
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3rd rogue

rotund oak
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then u need a dwarf and a nelf

thorn thorn
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Where are the rest of them

rotund oak
humble verge
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give me a fucking sec u cocksuker

thorn thorn
humble verge
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main

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2nd rogue

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in theory

humble verge
rotund oak
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she forgot her pants somewhere

humble verge
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orc is 2nd

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and nelf is 3rd

unborn rain
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whats that character sheet addon

humble verge
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its WA

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o wait

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no thats dejacharacters

waxen oyster
steep onyx
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question, why should i vanish during a fight? what is the bonus from doing so?

balmy condor
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!dj

prisma monolithBOT
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antennaglorp Vanishing On Fatebound antennaglorp

  • you vanish for double jeopardy, a Fatebound talent
  • this causes your next flip to flip an additional coin, and this coin can be an edge-case coin
  • because of this, you want to vanish when you know the next flip is an edge-case flip
  • edge case flips happen as a result of pressing deathmark, kingsbane, or the two envenoms afterwards which are affected by cold blood. You can vanish before ANY of these flips.
  • you should be vanishing every 3 minutes, lining up with every other deathmark, and this will also align with netherprism every 3 minutes for maximum burst
steep onyx
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thank you โค๏ธ

radiant pumice
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Would Screams of a Forgotten Sky be better than Empowering Crystal or Ara-Kara sac?

marsh fjord
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My qeustion would be why are you not using top gear and simming that?

radiant pumice
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I'm not sure what you just said

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What does simming mean?

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Sorry am still learning stuff

analog field
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using raidbots to simulate items

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it will tell you what is better

radiant pumice
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I see, is that an addon or a website?

marsh fjord
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Do you have acces to youtube?

stone galleon
thorn thorn
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numbers

coral ibex
misty holly
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I dont get it.

marsh fjord
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i mean not everyone has acces to youtube.

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Thats why i asked

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Explaining how to simyourself without an article or youtube video if you never done it before is useless

little current
haughty flicker
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hi nooj

severe meadow
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hi nooj

slim copper
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thinking about swapping to another spec for mythic loomi. Any suggestions?

severe meadow
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Can play Sub but if you do less damage because you're better at Assa, bit of an L

slim copper
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im also thinking about just staying sin and following Reverb mentality

severe meadow
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you don't swap to adds

slim copper
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yup

severe meadow
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If someone is telling you to, redirect them to it being a ranged problem

slim copper
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in other news... i parsed a 84 on M Soulbinder ๐Ÿ˜„

severe meadow
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Hell yeah

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We love purples

slim copper
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not fantastic but also not terrible

severe meadow
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Soulbinder can be a bit cooked anyway

slim copper
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This is how heroic is going

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for the fucking life of me i cant parse well on soul hunters

severe meadow
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What build are you running for hunters?

slim copper
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im using bleed build but i just dont know what im doing wrong

severe meadow
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Are you just ripping your vanishes or having one for when they transition

slim copper
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ohhh like out of meta? Never thought of that

severe meadow
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well they swap around

quaint nimbus
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Generally speaking when they group up lines up with your vanishes
Try to line vanishes up with that and funnel into the one with the biggest health pool

severe meadow
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First meta is funny like a beast guy

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imo you reapply mark to whoever it next up for meta

slim copper
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ya i can never remember the order

severe meadow
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The chick with the most health goes last

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other chick is 2nd

slim copper
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gotcha ok.

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will try that. So back to loomi for a second. FB internal bleeding, ya?

severe meadow
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Yeah

coral ibex
thorn thorn
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Hi joon

thorn thorn
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Bro took this meme fresh outta the fryer

little current
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rip mare

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how will my terabytes be used now

humble verge
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i decided to one up myself just for today

little current
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DAMN

floral igloo
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!macro

prisma monolithBOT
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With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

floral igloo
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
humble verge
thorn thorn
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Splendid

unborn rain
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saved

slim copper
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hey guys for first two bosses of Mythic. I have a hero track lily or champ track prism. Which would you recommend?

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i have 22k crit and 23k mastery

balmy condor
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whatever sims higher for your kill time

slim copper
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is there a way to change fight length for top gear?

balmy condor
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its in the settings yes

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you know

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like

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where you do the things

unborn rain
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awesome game

balmy condor
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OUR CAPTAINS A DRAGON?

unborn rain
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their captain banished me to a black hole

main bridge
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our captain is a dragon!

humble verge
slim copper
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what kinda dps yall pulling on m plexus?

humble verge
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not enough

coral ibex
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4.9m last kill

slim copper
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i did 4.2 and i pumped everything i had into it

opaque sky
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!gems

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๐Ÿ™

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Are we going for the 4 different types of gems for the Meta gem buff?

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Or just hard dumping mast/crit or crit/mast

main bridge
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we sim

opaque sky
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It's a VERY big sim.

main bridge
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well you don't have to sim every possible gem type

opaque sky
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Which is why I was asking general basis

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I'm not

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Crit mast, mast crit, hast crit, haste maste, verse mast, verse crit, that's the 4

main bridge
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and that's a VERY big sim?

opaque sky
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And trinkets lol

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And rings

main bridge
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why do you need to sim all of that at once?

haughty flicker
main bridge
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thank you

opaque sky
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No point ONLY simming gems if my stat weights change due to changing gear.

main bridge
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i'm glad somebody finally recognized it

main bridge
opaque sky
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Yeah but I put that gear on, put gems in, change one peice, everything changes lol

main bridge
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gems aren't going to be much more than 1-2% anyway

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you are simming top gear right?

opaque sky
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Yes

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The main question was if it's worth going for the 4x Gem bonus

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For the meta slot

balmy condor
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it is

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but it's like 0.3%

opaque sky
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Alright thanks whisp

balmy condor
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I just full slam crit/mast

opaque sky
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Yeah

balmy condor
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cause I actually cannot be fucked

opaque sky
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That's what I'm thinking

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Cause this is a pain in the ass

haughty flicker
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even better

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use the movespeed gem instead

crisp sluice
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does anyone have a WA for the most current kingsbane timeline?

crisp sluice
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like a wa that when you pop kingsbane, it shows the countdown remaining so you can be reminded to shiv

balmy condor
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that's not a thing

crisp sluice
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didnt LE used to have a tracker?

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i swear i used it maybe that was like in season 1 or something

balmy condor
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yeah used to

crisp sluice
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ahhhhhh its cooked now

balmy condor
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shit don't matter anymore

main bridge
crisp sluice
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got it got it, we basically just shiv with 8sec left on DM right

balmy condor
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you shiv back to back during deathmark

crisp sluice
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yea

balmy condor
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and then the non-deathmark kingsbane is just one shiv

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so you just kinda chuck it and gg

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the timeline used to be for when you had to time tea, shiv, vanish

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but we don't do any of that anymore

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so no one really uses it

crisp sluice
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ahhhhhhh got it got it yeah ok im just cooked living in the past with that one, i thought it mattered for the non DM KB but you prob just send that sub 10 sec or w.e

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thanks as always s2

balmy condor
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np

slim copper
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this fight is so exhausting

dense cedar
lyric vale
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Still chilling with my champion prism and antenna yippie

rotund oak
severe sparrow
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why the fuck is only one of my daggers showing

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theyre both equipped

haughty flicker
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Budget cuts

rotund oak
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fashion statement

severe sparrow
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oh it's something from brewfest Thonk i dont have any icons though, but when i attack a dummy i have a stein in that hand

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thanks blizzard, i always wanted to be an alcoholic

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oh fuck it was actually a non alcoholic thing i had in my bag from the sober elemental

crisp sluice
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What does the blue tick signify in your LE envenom bar WA @balmy condor

balmy condor
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pandemic

humble verge
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@thorn thorn i did actually try to sell the mount to one of the customers we had in the run - the ansurek mount
but the fucking advertiser wouldnt answer my community leads

crisp sluice
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got it thank you qiyanaUWU

clever heron
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!plater

prisma monolithBOT
dawn heath
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yo kind of a random question, but do u guys know if u still need the war within on your account to play max level content? so im on my second account and when i go into "game upgrade" its for the next expansion not for the current one but i also have not bought the expansion on this particular account

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its the same battlenet and i own the expansion on my main account

clever heron
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Buying midnight gives War Within

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Not sure if you can only buy War Within anymore.

dawn heath
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right so for context. i have not preordered Midnight. But i have the war within on my main account, im wondering on my wow (2) can i play the war within with just playtime?

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or do i need to buy another license

clever heron
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Uhh, that I have no idea. Hopefully someone else that plays multiple accounts will chime in.

dawn heath
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And the thing is, i dont wanna buy playtime and level to 70 to find out if i can play or not

humble verge
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how

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does one die 9 times

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in a key

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only you die 9 times

cunning needle
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hp bar reaches 0

magic fossil
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guys im felling filth, playing frost dk today

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what im doing

buoyant herald
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getting invited

humble verge
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i need to farm 156 more... besad

floral igloo
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
marsh fjord
humble verge
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crests

marsh fjord
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Gilded?

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Cant be gilded

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Are you farming the lower crest to turn them in on 17 oct?

humble verge
marsh fjord
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Are you just doing 10's or what you doing

humble verge
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12s

marsh fjord
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Is this an alt or something?

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Because your main should be capped 100%

humble verge
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indeed

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its my rogue 3

runic hinge
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Mental Illinois

humble verge
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nah

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i just have more fun than you guys

runic hinge
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More time than me* but also I playing alts that arenโ€™t rogue. (I do have 2)

humble verge
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idk

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i have a dh

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but its only 680

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but its so ass to gear this early

static glacier
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Iโ€™ve got mage, hunt, dk - all are like 716

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Low-key the mage has better quality gear than my main

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Ngl alts just show you how cringe it is how buggy rogue is

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That and Iโ€™m convinced dks are playing a different game

static glacier
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Instead of giving crit

marsh fjord
# tidal hatch any log reviewers https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/JMzHftbxVZWdvkFp?fight=8...
  • Your missing a envenom before you pressed your kingsbane
  • opener is completely wrong, no vanish, using shiv 11 seconds after your deathmark while it should be. shiv - deathmark and then 8 seconds later again.
  • 55 seconds you pressed a solo coldblood. you want to macro kingsbane/cold blood together, 1.44 you did the same
  • in your solo kingsbane you shiv before kingsbane. in your solo kingsbanes you want to shiv the last 8 seconds of your kingsbane
  • Your cooldowns usage is just not good. if i was you i would just go to wowhead and read some guides. and practice the opener on a dummy for a few hours
tidal hatch
marsh fjord
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Been a while i have seen a crooked log like this i just wonder what we doing chief

static glacier
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a lot of people make these mistakes

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they just never come for log reviews

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either ways, im with numbers on this one

marsh fjord
static glacier
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you need to revisit guides about how to play cds

tidal hatch
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i figured it would be worth while to come to the experts immediately and get torn down so i can build correctly from the jump

marsh fjord
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Let me show you how a opener needs to look like

static glacier
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fundamentally there's like 2-3 things you learn

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and thats it you're done with cds

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just get the proper sequence understood then practice on dummies / in raid etc

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namely the sequence for fatebound is shiv > dm > kb or kb > wait til last 8s > shiv

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macro cb to kb and dw about it

marsh fjord
static glacier
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in general we prefer to env before cds unless there's a big reason why you're accelerating the opener (good example for this is salhadar mythic, since we get more kb uptime at the end of p1 and better timed cds for titan on platform and really the entire fight, if we were to do the normal opener our cds in the dmg amp would have a few seconds of the end wasted)

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since your first envenom of the fight provides slice and dice which matters A TON for poison applications for kb

shy axle
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any tips for first time soulhunters progress tonight that i might not get from the guide?

golden loom
static glacier
# shy axle any tips for first time soulhunters progress tonight that i might not get from t...

when the bosses move press sprint and RUN, don't wait for everything to land while trailing behind the slowest moving boss if ur tanks aren't quick. aim to hold a charge of vanish to reapply bleeds after intermission is done. the way they split when the havoc dh uses hunt is for the first hunt she splits off then at the end of its cast she will restack, keep this in mind when sending shiv / ct. you want these to hit all 3 and for the bosses to be stacked while you benefit from tierset /w shiv.

golden loom
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if you are on adarus at the start you can also just step to him after he steps away

static glacier
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id reccomend using CT on stacked bosses channeling metamorphosis, even if its out of pandemic, if it would fall in intermission i pref to have it ticking on them while they're in the sky

humble verge
#

got lily

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from the eco i did

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๐Ÿ˜Ž

static glacier
#

sickk

humble verge
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well traded

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atleast

static glacier
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got a myth one this week

static glacier
#

mango again HOLY

static glacier
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but ye you can see alts higher ilvl than my sub set kekw

humble verge
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maybe i just have to play sub on this char...

static glacier
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so much haste

humble verge
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flask

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and also this ring

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from uh

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eco i tihnk

static glacier
humble verge
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and i have the vers mastery ring from prio in myth

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also

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i have the fucking

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versa neck

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hurb

static glacier
#

euge

humble verge
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i need to like

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get more crit fr fr

static glacier
#

vers is legit a great stat for prog and keys imo

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ye, snag urself logic gate: alpha

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juices ur crit

humble verge
#

well

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i could just do a plexus kill on this

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and hope i get it ig

static glacier
#

also be ready for .5 when we replace the crit belt

humble verge
#

i did actually get like

humble verge
#

an LFR

oak tangle
humble verge
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i have an lfr plexus ring

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on my dh xd

oak tangle
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i got nothing to send upgrades on ๐Ÿ™

humble verge
#

thats warband

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id rather try my luck in normal ig

marsh fjord
oak tangle
#

oh ffs

marsh fjord
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hmmmm

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dirty mage player

oak tangle
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i didnt realise i was replying to something like an hour old

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discord fried

grim jay
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took me like a day to reach 700 from 5XX

humble verge
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i do know this

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but im lazy

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on anything but rogue

nova kelp
#

hmmm just checking haven't been around in a week, did the sims get updated to include our current bugs or something? My sim dropped like 4%

balmy condor
#

it includes the newest bug in the pins

nova kelp
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ah this makes sense

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tyty good sir

half dawn
#

hey guys

marsh fjord
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Yellow name

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Hide guys

half dawn
#

quick q regarding mythic fract since i'm thinking of playing assa there

balmy condor
half dawn
#

Do you hold prism for 18 stacks and DM or send it with 2nd DM regardless of stacks?

golden loom
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send prism on vanishes

half dawn
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ig you should have 18 anyway since assa stacks it fast

marsh fjord
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You use it with your vanish

half dawn
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ahhh

marsh fjord
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so its every 3 minutes

half dawn
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ok got ya thank you

marsh fjord
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and the fully stacked one is around 3 minutes

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ands hould be in execute

golden loom
#

but you should also send it with your final cds cause you wont have a vanish there anyways

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so you prism on 3min cds and on 4:30

half dawn
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ok got ya so before 3m mark i dont press that sht thanks

marsh fjord
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we macro it to our vanish

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so it gets pressedi n the opener

golden loom
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opener -> 3min -> 4:30

half dawn
#

thanks ill do that

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i've not played assa mcuh outside of bleed build this tier and just got prism xd

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thanks for the tips

humble verge
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oh nvm

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need to make this into a gif

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๐Ÿ›Œ

static glacier
humble verge
static glacier
ancient ingot
#

guys can someone saying top 5 speels in dps after key? because i sim and its always in sim 1-caustic 2-rapture 3-garrote but mine like this

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i cant understand what should i do correctly

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on this screen im trying not spamming envenom like filler and press rupture instead but as usual i have like caustic-crimson-envenom top dps

flat cliff
#

Hello everyone, I'm lost at what's happening I feel like I should be doing more DPS - I keep seeing that caustic spatter should be higher in damage but how do you increase it? Am I messing something up? Can anyone give me tips?

golden loom
flat cliff
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it was a +11

golden loom
#

okay well that is fried

humble verge
#

my average 12 db

ancient ingot
normal mist
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yes

humble verge
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maybe 1 time i might forget to press spam CT

flat cliff
#

ok so I should be more careful to keep it up right?

humble verge
#

yes

half dawn
#

!stats

prisma monolithBOT
#

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

  • Signet of the Priory will require you have Mastery as your highest RATING (the actual number, not the %). Having Crit and Mastery close to one another will cause procs from Flask or Seaforium Pacemaker to cause your Signet to give you Crit. This is generally worse and will cause Signet to sim poorly.
  • Compared to each other, Deathstalker wants more Mastery/Haste than Fatebound, and Fatebound wants more Crit than Deathstalker
  • Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
flat cliff
#

but that still would not increase caustic spatter to the level it should be, no?

half dawn
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
ancient ingot
marsh fjord
#

Brother its not that hard

You spread your ruptures, you spread your garrotes. you press ct. you multilate one time. you press DM + shiv on your prio target and you FOK + envenom to get more spatter damage

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@flat cliff

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When caustic is falling off you mutilate again

half dawn
#

there was a WA for shiv somewhere

marsh fjord
#

rinse and repeat

half dawn
#

for when to press during kb

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idk if anyone knows what im yapping on about

marsh fjord
#

You can make a sound on your KB WA

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but there are many weakauras on wago if you need one

half dawn
#

Yeah ig I will

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whats the rule with the 8s

marsh fjord
half dawn
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send between 8-7 s left right

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because it ticks every 2 or something

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KB that is

marsh fjord
#

Yes

half dawn
#

ok cool

marsh fjord
#

in your DM your DM is more important

half dawn
#

wanted to check if i rememberd that right

marsh fjord
#

so you shiv your entire DM window

half dawn
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got ya that was my next q

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yeah because we send shiv before dm and then during

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and obv it doesnt cover entire kb

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but that makes sense

marsh fjord
#

in DM your kingsbane is already fully stacked 4 seconds in so shivving for the later part doesnt make sense

half dawn
#

ty bru

marsh fjord
#

Because with DM you duplicate all your poisons which make KB stack faster

#

BLIZZARD IF YOU READING THIS UNCAP KB RIGHT AWAY

half dawn
#

KB should be spread AOE when you press shiv

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kekw

ancient ingot
marsh fjord
#

Using envenom does nothing for your DM window because KB is not assigned to it.

The only thing that envenom before DM Does is doing your spatter damage.

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I typically envenom after i pressed DM/shiv

ancient ingot
marsh fjord
#

I dont see a reason why you would want to envenom before all of this. because the only thing envenom does is increasing your spatter damage.

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And you want your DM window out as soon as possible.

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Because sometimes dependant on the key level .if you DM very late. your mob won't live the DM window and thats a waste

grim vigil
#

on my dk ppl dont invite me to my last 17 priory, on my rogue ppl dont join my key because hes low and i get declined to 7s

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fuck this game

grim vigil
#

701

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my dk is 719 and doesnt get inv to 17 priory at 3.5k

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all my guildies sleeping ffffffff

dense cedar
#

people probably just not joining ur key cos ur a dps

grim vigil
#

yea they wanna be the last dps to join a pre stack i guess

hot pasture
#

!spreadsheet

prisma monolithBOT
lean plover
clever sparrow
#

how hard is it to reach 3.3 this season?

real pike
spice surge
#

You should have envenom up before you KB

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If you do not have kb, then you dont need it

marsh fjord
#

Because envenom buffs your poison application

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and how faster your posions applies you faster kingsbane stacked

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and in bleed build we have no kingsbane

real pike
#

Ohhh we're talking aoe

marsh fjord
#

Yes. the person was talking about m+

real pike
#

I should learn to read

marsh fjord
#

You're fine bro ๐Ÿ™‚

ancient ingot
#

guys which gs i need for ppls stable give me inv in 13 keys

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im 2930 and 711

marsh fjord
ancient ingot
#

Oh

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okay thats make sense

marsh fjord
#

For people really inviting you

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depends on the person tho

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Its mostly more about your IO then gear imo

ancient ingot
#

but for my opinion 710 its comfortable gs for 13

marsh fjord
#

Yeah. its not about the item level but more of how people and there hardcore mindset

ancient ingot
#

only if +++12

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thats why i want 13 keys

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thats my first wish for newbee player 3k io

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and purple logs heroic

marsh fjord
#

Yeah better to do your own key

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I pugged all on my own to 15's

royal lantern
#

not much

clever sparrow
onyx pond
#

There is no gain playing healer or tank. You have more responsibilities and less fun

frigid lagoon
#

tanking is fun

desert crest
analog hornet
#

I have a kick-problem with my rogue... on and Otter class, its easy, but with my rogue i cant find time for it.

Especially in the Tank chainpulling and i have to dotting and mob one by one ๐Ÿ˜…

Is there someghing that can help? And i think my arms are to short ๐Ÿคฃ you have to kiss the mob you want to kick ๐Ÿคช

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*on any other class

royal lantern
#

? you can always kick, whats the problem there

#

no ranged kick?

severe meadow
#

Shadowstep and kick?

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Sprint?

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Toggle run and not walk?

marsh fjord
#

Rogue needs a range kick

#

Like a dagger they interrupts

shy axle
#

i am still a little bit unsure about this situation with 4p DS. I have DN active but i could also shiv. Do i 1. Shiv and buff the DN-env or do i 2. Env and shiv afterwards to not waste the mark reduce. I have heard both here over the last few weeks, whats the play?

shy axle
#

both

onyx pond
marsh fjord
#

In ST, you finish and then shiv. But you shiv only with DN up if you have lingering.

In AOE it doesnโ€™t matter because you use shiv to buff all your bleeds. But obviously itโ€™s better to shiv on a darkstalker stack

shy axle
#

thank you

unborn rain
#

m+ is not a real game mode

onyx pond
#

Whats real game mode ?

ancient ingot
#

someone know how can i make this cursor ?

marsh fjord
#

Because i think thats a weakaura

round vapor
#

Unyielding Netherprism, what skill should this trinket be macro'd to?

marsh fjord
#

and deathmark on DS

round vapor
#

ty

marsh fjord
#

And you vanish before deathmark on fatebound so it gets stacking earlier

ancient ingot
marsh fjord
ancient ingot
#

i have

celest ruin
#

๐Ÿซก my record

zinc wing
#

How much does my DMG suffer If i Play assa in Outlaw Gear?(30k versa)

marsh fjord
celest ruin
#

soulbinder

marsh fjord
#

Does your guild not hit the adds at all?

celest ruin
#

they do but on execute our dev and mm died

marsh fjord
#

Ahh thatโ€™s very nice

hot torrent
#

short question: what do i do when i hit 2 lucky coins in the opener for example? do i send KB without CB or hold it?

burnt star
#

Ur rotation should never change no matter what u do.. and ur opener should always give u a lucky coin

#

Cb should be macroed to kb and ignored

#

U dont play around it

quaint spindle
wide sleet
#

!up

humble verge
#

did an alt run

#

and frac dropped this

vestal granite
#

fkn cursed

humble verge
#

INSANE LOGS

vestal granite
#

shiet I do more plexus dps in LFR

#

I know you probably soaked

humble verge
#

wtf i got boe boots as well

vestal granite
#

I m happy for you

oak tangle
#

unlucky tho

#

boots probs wont be worth shit

humble verge
#

idk

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non avoidance

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are up for 300k but

#

not expecting much

oak tangle
#

hmm, woulda thought with dh boots

#

no one would buy

humble verge
#

well

#

its crest save

vestal granite
#

DH boots you have like a 10% chance to get them

humble verge
#

but idk

#

dh boots drop like

#

717

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on mythic

oak tangle
#

i guess, for non mythic raiding achieve bros

humble verge
#

true

vestal granite
#

unless you are the only Pug rolling against 5 of our guildies then its a 100% chance

humble verge
#

kekw

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plexus dropped the ring

thorn slate
#

which is better for ST? Deathstalker or fatebound?

humble verge
#

i lost on an 86 roll to 90

thorn slate
#

on all encounters or single target only?

oak tangle
#

ST

zinc wing
thorn slate
#

ok and how is sin compared to sub in m+ ? are they miles apart or only slightly worse than sub

oak tangle
#

tank and key dependant

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arguably sin better in some / with the right tnak

#

our ST in keys is utter dogshit

#

but if a tank pulls onto boss, we have great funnel

vestal granite
#

If you dont have a team and dont push really high coordinated keys

#

then I recommend Sub

quaint spindle
vestal granite
#

because oh boy

#

the people still doing keys in the dungeon tools

quaint spindle
#

Sub is the most consistent for keys imo

oak tangle
#

sub still hates bitch pulls, but it's single target doesn't approach nonexistence if a tank doesnt pull onto boss

vestal wren
#

i had a lot of m+ runs tanks pulled very poorly around tfd

#

which can be rly annoying if the tank pulls something that puts you in combat and breaks the tfd reset at 1s remaining

zinc vale
#

does anyone else have problem on soul hunters when u have 3raptures on enemy bosses but u only have 8% scent of blood agility ?

#

or is it just me

vestal wren
#

(thats ofc a tanking issue, but most tanks are not aware of your timers)

celest ruin
#

thats the bug when dm expires your duplicated rupture expires so you get -1 scent stack

zinc vale
vestal granite
#

hey I didnt know that one!

#

learning a new bug every day

celest ruin
#

its been that way since dragonflight i think not sure

zinc vale
#

kekw

vestal granite
#

You would think Assa EXCELS at 3 target Soul Hunter, but nope barely middle of the pack

#

whats the point if I can do 15% more damage pressing Frost Scythe

oak tangle
#

why would / should we excel?

vestal granite
#

because of Bleeds man

oak tangle
#

3 targets is not it tho

real pike
vestal granite
#

okay mate you go back to pressing Frost scythe instead of arguing with me about um actually 8 targets is the highest dps we can do bluuuuuuuuuh

oak tangle
#

huh?

normal mist
#

o.o

oak tangle
#

like, we make a point to talk about putting out 5 ruptures, in keys with the bleed build, might make sense that 3 targets instead of 5 is underwhelming

real pike
#

3 targets not even properly stacked for a lot of the fight

#

Meanwhile locks just stand still and blast all 3 for fun

normal mist
#

thats a tank problem

real pike
#

Not entirely

normal mist
#

entirely

real pike
#

They also dash about

#

Not entirely

normal mist
#

2 are tankable

#

1 dashes around

real pike
#

But go off and do abilities

normal mist
#

just move to that one

real pike
#

Lol

red schooner
#

But then you have the hunt fucker doing hunt stuff.

oak tangle
#

tbh tho i wanna know why i'm being told to go 'back' and press frost scythe... I don't play DK

real pike
#

They stand still to do abilities the 2 tankable ones are not glued to the other 100% of the time

red schooner
#

And its just, STAY IN ONE PLACE YOU FUCK

real pike
#

Yes

oak tangle
#

it's just ranged assass tho

real pike
#

Wat

oak tangle
#

funnel

#

with a mini 45s burst

radiant aspen
#

any plans to fix assa

oak tangle
#

sounds like a ranged fatebound to me

radiant aspen
#

?

lusty kraken
normal mist
real pike
#

I still think of sin as a 2 min class

#

Stupid stronger fatebound

marsh fjord
marsh fjord
#

I got you bro

vestal granite
#

I wouldnt mess with avtooo either, good choice Ion

scarlet crest
oak tangle
#

sub doesn't really have funnel

#

or cleave off a prio mob

solar wyvern
radiant aspen
#

tell ION i give him time till next reset if assa is not fixsed i rerrol to retri

#

thanks

oak tangle
#

aint nothing gonna make me reroll ret

marsh fjord
radiant aspen
oak tangle
#

some things you just can't joke about, wanting to play ret is once, that's just unhinged

humble verge
prime hull
#

!fok

prisma monolithBOT
#

Fok Conditions Post-Buff
Fan of Knives as a generator to replace ambush/mutilate:

  • Baseline 3+ targets, -1 if talented into momentum of despair and thrown precision, +1 if talented into vicious venoms, +1 if talented into blindside. (Generally 5 with raid build, 3 with Bleed m+, 2 with Hybrid m+)
    Fan of Knives with Clear the Witnesses Up:
  • Baseline 2+ targets, -1 if lingering darkness is up or you aren't talented into vicious venoms. With Vicious Venoms casting during lingering darkness is dps neutral.
    Fan of Knives with Darkest Night Up:
  • Only on 2+ targets, or without Vicious Venoms talented. This is also a very very minor optimization

The most important to remember is the generator rules, clear the witnesses and darkest night optimizations can be effectively ignored as they are not meaningful DPS improvements

prime hull
#

if this is 5+ targets why do i see people top logging never fok on araz which is 5t when adds spawn

#

or is it fok > 5 targets not >= 5t

#

maybe the diff is minimal idk

humble verge
#

because you have to crit for it to be worth to fok

#

to then get cp

golden loom
#

isnt that why you fok on 5 targets...

oak tangle
#

probs cause they ehtical and not padders

severe meadow
#

Possible they're tracking stats and FoK when they have really high crit peeposhrug

#

I shoot quite high when antenna decides to go crazy and weapon procs

oak tangle
#

i need the meme fimbulvtr posts

#

found it XD

prime hull
#

also whats the best way to take advantage of the fatebound bug where ur dm is 1 minute when it happens

  1. hold kb for cold blood at :45 and hold dm for 1:30 (play as normal)
  2. start sending everything on cd desync
  3. hold kb/cold blood and send with deathmark at 1 minute again
#

the last one sounds pretty good if it doesnt affect the fight timings like on loomithar/fract

marsh fjord
#

you do not want to hold KB for very long to miss a use on a boss.

unborn rain
#

yeah

#

on loomi u dont wanna miss a use of execute kingsbane

#

u could send on cd and have ur vanish be when u try to resync everything as well

#

or prism if u have that

midnight scroll
#

epic gamer moment

#

we're so back

humble verge
#

huge gamer

pliant remnant
hoary scroll
#

fatebound ST do i realy send second shiv in last 8 secs of DM not Kingsbane?

normal mist
#

dm yes

#

so shiv back to back

#

only last 8 seconds when solo KB

#

DM stacks KB extremely fast, no need to only buff KB when you can have a fully stacked KB and double shiv inside DM

pliant remnant
marsh fjord
#

I wonder why we are question the guide maker tho

normal mist
#

Questioning is fine

#

I was throwing shiv at the last secs of KB during DM too because of the first fatebounnd video whispyr released

hoary scroll
#

yes that is why i was questioning ๐Ÿ™‚

normal mist
#

which got outdated really fast

midnight scroll
#

do we even track kb stacks? because i don't

normal mist
#

we dont no

#

there's literally no point

midnight scroll
#

yea just vibes

sleek spear
#

Hey guys assas stronger than sub for mythic Loomithar progression?

With the inbuilt execute ?

normal mist
#

most likely

sleek spear
#

Tried sub and it's miserable swapping to tangles and boss at the same time

normal mist
#

assa also feels terrible

#

throw maybe a rupture and back to boss

#

top loomitar rogue kills

midnight scroll
#

I gotta learn sub man

gray raven
#

so we're going this whole season not getting fixed ala WW in whatever DF season that was

normal mist
#

We're still doing quite well, despite the bugs, it is what it is

midnight scroll
midnight scroll
# normal mist

i would've been on this screenshot but we uhh... we umm... we didn't log that night

gray raven
#

fair enough, my static keeps suggesting i play sub and i just don't like the spec

normal mist
#

then don't

midnight scroll
gray raven
#

indeed

midnight scroll
#

Even if it's being a Chelsea fan kekW

gray raven
#

some fundamental flaws can't be removed

#

in my defense i grew up in london and have been a fan way before the russian mob money

#

er "oil" lol

sleek spear
midnight scroll
#

I mean Abramovich was a big part of Chelsea's success

gray raven
#

oh no doubt - it was just a bit surreal at the time

severe meadow
#

Can rupture snipe the tangles but hard swapping is criminal

#

If you get tethered you can shadowstep out on outside tangle

#

(If your ranged are slow on killing)

sleek spear
severe meadow
#

Yeah, the ones tanks are grabbing

sleek spear
#

Raid leader asks everyone to swap to tangles. But my tangle damage won't be very high due to just rupture on it mainly

severe meadow
#

Donโ€™t swap

#

Youโ€™ll do no tangle damage and less boss damage

#

Tell your leader to see what ranged are doing during swap

midnight scroll
#

you can if you're fast but it's a thing to keep an eye out on

severe meadow
#

Well thatโ€™s why I said if you are

#

Why would you shadowstep otherwise

midnight scroll
#

because you're a proper ninja and you should embrace it fully

severe meadow
#

For shits and giggles, got it

#

We like a little shadowstep weaving

midnight scroll
#

do you guys think they'll ever address Araz pylons literally stealing our darkest nights and leaving us naked?

#

because that's the #1 reason i do not enjoy that boss

humble verge
#

just play fb

#

or sub

spice surge
#

Until they rework deathstalker thats gonna continue to happen

#

On every single mob that doesnt "die"

coral ibex
#

yea its expected behavior tbh

spice surge
#

Multiple cases of that happening in keys too

#

Ye its not really a bug

#

Its just designed to feel bad

coral ibex
#

enemies that exit combat via RP reasons, or don't actually die

#

can't refund DN

normal mist
#

Streets, music boss

midnight scroll
#

yea that is true, but it's cringe to leave us without our biggest dps source

midnight scroll
oak tangle
#

can we make it a requirement, that before people can complain about bugs, they actually understand them and can tell us how much they are losing because of them?

normal mist
#

but youtuber said 15%!!

oak tangle
#

cause like... 99% of peeps complaining about bugs wouldn't know they existed if they didnt get told they did

midnight scroll
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wasn't complaining, just sharing my experience with it and why i feel bad fighting that boss, i'll just go fb next raid and pray that they rework ds mark

oak tangle
normal mist
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there are a few that have as a life goal to come into this chat everyday and "no fixes lol"

midnight scroll
severe meadow
midnight scroll
humble verge
oak tangle
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they hadn't known

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but now they've been told, they are outraged

severe meadow
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Erm, actually I did know, I just didn't tell anyone

midnight scroll
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i'm def playing fb next raid i'm inspired now

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incoming 64 parse

severe meadow
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Yeah but how about this, buddy

humble verge
severe meadow
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xd

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Our prog kill was rough

humble verge
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dont u think this was our 3rd kill

severe meadow
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it's okay pookie, the fight sucks

floral igloo
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Damn yall on mythic soul already

severe meadow
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I think Uber is on Dimussy, we're on King

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Platform progging

sleek spear
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Do you guys switch to sub for add fights like soulbinder / Araz ?

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Then assas for the mainly ST fights ?

severe meadow
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I played Sub for Araz prog but went back to FB after

oak tangle
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i think soulbinder is a deathstalker fight

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but can also sub

severe meadow
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DS for Soulbinder yeah

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Idk about sub

quiet oriole
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Im in sub jail for araz prog

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I even crafted a different ring to be able to swap to sub easier

oak tangle
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i've just geared by 'bozo press w crit mastery gear'

severe meadow
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I have a ring I swap out but that's about it

oak tangle
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works for both specs, and key

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1% haste as sub