#assassination

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severe meadow
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Wait for next expac

clever sparrow
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lol

native vigil
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is off hand weapon important or a stat stick?

severe meadow
clever sparrow
fallen charm
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anything cool from the hardmode?

humble verge
runic hinge
humble verge
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its uh

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big g, jaina mount, pirate dragon tw mount, the legion arch mount, stonevault and the taza glider? i believe

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theres some more in there i think

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but im in bed

severe meadow
humble verge
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so long, gay bowser

humble verge
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damn

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didnt check fb before now but my dad finally got to gibraltar

snow fable
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the Turboboost is coming soon, is it SURE that the gilded crest limit will be removed ? I can't find it on the patchnote

humble verge
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we wont know until we know

fallen charm
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every week is 1 item you get to max out

snow fable
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thought the turbo boost was mean to boost our characters

fallen charm
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13 weeks gilded are irrelevant

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turbo boost will be what? week 9?

snow fable
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turbo boost is the 8th of october (not the next reset, the one after)

fallen charm
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would be a giga L move if they didn't remove gilded cap

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since we would need arround 240 gilded to get the new upgrades

little current
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well

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i decided to make a change

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the devs clearly dont give a rats ass about outlaw

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so im trying sin out

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im at like 713

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its fun, I like the bleed build, though Im not a fan of CT in ST and sometimes I forget to use ambush out of stealth

normal mist
little current
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like

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they dont care about rogue

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in general

normal mist
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This spec is also bugged

little current
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but outlaw has it the worst

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yall do damage

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we dont

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yall are buggy as fuck and I feel for you

normal mist
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It honestly doesn't matter

little current
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wdym

agile osprey
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Don't think about bugs

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just hit boss

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things happen

humble verge
little current
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12 priory

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713

humble verge
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how are u guys not like

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doing 8-9m

little current
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tank was weird

humble verge
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ok

little current
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he asked me to shroud the first footmen

humble verge
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understandable

humble verge
little current
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why would you do that

humble verge
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well its also

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they just come so late

little current
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if you die you have to deal with the footmen

humble verge
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idk

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true

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just dont die

little current
humble verge
vague raft
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what is the fix to the bug where DM and KB are not reduced CD?

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i swapped specs and went back, happened again

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is that just horrible RNG or?

gritty laurel
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no fix, just try to notice when it happens and line cooldowns back up, or maybe don't and get an extra use

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or just accept that it is what it is and your dps will be what it does

thorn thorn
haughty flicker
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why did he bite into the top waffle

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before using it as the sandwich bun

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thats the main issue i have here

thorn thorn
haughty flicker
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fair

floral igloo
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!stats

prisma monolithBOT
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There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

  • Signet of the Priory will require you have Mastery as your highest RATING (the actual number, not the %). Having Crit and Mastery close to one another will cause procs from Flask or Seaforium Pacemaker to cause your Signet to give you Crit. This is generally worse and will cause Signet to sim poorly.
  • Compared to each other, Deathstalker wants more Mastery/Haste than Fatebound, and Fatebound wants more Crit than Deathstalker
  • Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
thorn thorn
low raptor
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!macro

prisma monolithBOT
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With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

humble verge
severe meadow
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Im finna dick him down

thorn thorn
humble verge
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need to find out whos on this una family tree

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im top left, rob is bottom left

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now to fill in the blanks

little current
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oh my god

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im gonna lose it

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I fucking HATE chainpulling tanks

sleek night
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
harsh anchor
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I found today if you press your taint, you eject the remaining piss out of your snake so you don't have to tango with the stubborn last drop

severe meadow
thorn thorn
thorn thorn
severe meadow
tawdry halo
thorn thorn
coral ibex
thorn thorn
severe meadow
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Salad bar scrambling our guts in p1

exotic hearth
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What's the reason we play fate w splatter on M araz while still doing death for binder? Is it just due to adds being up less % of the time?

coral ibex
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its because mark is turbo ass

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and you can just keep mark on soulbinder the whole time

balmy condor
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soulbinder is a 2 min fight

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fatebound is a 1:30 spec

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araz has better 1:30 timers

exotic hearth
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Gotcha

thorn thorn
coral ibex
balmy condor
severe meadow
thorn thorn
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looks like a lot of fun

severe meadow
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almost p2

snow hamlet
haughty flicker
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i come to the council seeking help

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it is my turn to be log reviewed

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i actually turbo griefed this fight

thorn thorn
haughty flicker
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yeah well

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i cant play the evokers i can play my own character

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and im in no position to talk shit after that

vagrant urchin
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yo wtf why you steal my name

haughty flicker
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you stole my name

image.png image.png
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get fucked nerd

runic hinge
vagrant urchin
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no way i got out uncd

balmy condor
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wears mcdonalds hat
bell
?????

thorn thorn
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Maybe offer a hammy too

haughty flicker
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im afraid he'll beat me

balmy condor
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I don't bite unless you're into that

vagrant urchin
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i wish he beats me

thorn thorn
runic hinge
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I’ll review when I get home in 3 hours

vagrant urchin
split veldt
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i got a friend using double ascension on his demon nunter, does that do anything?

thorn thorn
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Whats the reason

runic hinge
vagrant urchin
thorn thorn
oak tangle
balmy condor
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so

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does it do anything? yes, it works fine

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is it really dumb? probably yeah

haughty flicker
coral ibex
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i mean 4:40 kt is pretty bad for you

oak tangle
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like it's fine before execute

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yeah you miss a dm cast

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but that 3:16 exe looks wet noodle

haughty flicker
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but i still probably shouldnt have been that bad

thorn thorn
haughty flicker
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lmao

oak tangle
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lol

vagrant urchin
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lmao

thorn thorn
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Adding this to my collection though

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oak tangle
haughty flicker
coral ibex
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you're also "only" 714

echo talon
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Do we need to delete the discord so we get our bugs fixed? 67332fokinglaugh

oak tangle
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i would personally delete my memeory of the bugs existing

thorn thorn
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Joke overdone

severe meadow
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Does the rik command still work

thorn thorn
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!richard

prisma monolithBOT
thorn thorn
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!rik

prisma monolithBOT
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Rik Reverb Barrels (and similar spread cleave in raid)

  • Not your problem.
  • Assassination is the worst target swapping spec in the game, and we have no tools available to deal with the situation of priority spread cleave. Caustic can reach sometimes but similar to fire mage, the boss needs to be on top of the adds, causing caustic to often be out of range.
  • If you're truly hellbent on swapping to barrels, hold your nearest darkest night and just slam a darkest night envenom into them and pray. If you're quick enough you can also pool combo points/energy and cast a rupture on a barrel to try and caustic off of them. This still will not do good barrel damage, again, the spec is doomed for it
  • Another possible option would be talenting into Crimson Tempest by untalenting Bone Spike and Doomblade. This CAN TECHNICALLY provide a bit of barrel damage, but the spawns need to be immaculate and any difficult spawns will just result in no barrel damage again.
    With all that, the best advice we have for swapping barrels:
  • Swap to Subtlety.
thorn thorn
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Both of them do work still

quaint nimbus
coral ibex
severe meadow
thorn thorn
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Ask the boss man whispyr

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Bro got botted

main bridge
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make sure you mention Whispyr when you ask about shutting down the server

thorn thorn
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Very true

coral ibex
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lol

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i got pinged for it anyway

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stay mad buddy

thorn thorn
coral ibex
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probably just an emplusser anyway

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ooo im so mad i can't get into groups

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wah wah wah

thorn thorn
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Im an emplusser smadge

little current
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why did I scroll up

severe meadow
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For solid info, of course

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Get to it

thorn thorn
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But I also dont play rogue as main so garf_sit

main bridge
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this guy's just learning about that

little current
main bridge
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amateur hour out here

thorn thorn
little current
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:pffttt:

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also question

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i was looking in our talent tree earlier

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whats the talent that refunds cp if we rupture from stealth

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I couldnt find it

thorn thorn
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Its bone spike

little current
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oh that's bone spike?

thorn thorn
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Bone spike give combo points when used

little current
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i thought it just gave cp when the enemy died

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didnt read enough ig

midnight scroll
little current
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ahh

midnight scroll
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venomous wounds if i'm correct

little current
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venemous wounds gives energy on enemy damage

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not them dying

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well

midnight scroll
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them dying as well

little current
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enemy damage from ur poison

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both

oak tangle
thorn thorn
little current
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ohhh

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yeah I figured that part was part of the "target dies" portion

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my bad

oak tangle
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and IC interacts with it to give more

thorn thorn
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Probably thinking of venomous wounds

little current
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i mean i just started sin today

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first time running it without hekili

coral ibex
thorn thorn
little current
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i much prefer it without kingsbane to worry about

coral ibex
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casual pugging

rotund oak
thorn thorn
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Im only like 2.8/2.9k, forgor

little current
thorn thorn
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Im a scrub and slack off too much

coral ibex
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100% pug

oak tangle
thorn thorn
midnight scroll
haughty flicker
deep nimbus
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!prism

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!trinket

little current
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pugging is different for everyone

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for me its uh

deep nimbus
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!macro

prisma monolithBOT
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With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

little current
thorn thorn
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Once you get past 12s and into actual keys you start to see shit people less slowly

rotund oak
little current
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ehhh

thorn thorn
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They do show up

rotund oak
thorn thorn
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Sometimes you get fotm players that dont know ass from head

little current
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idk 13's are rough

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honestly yknow what we need

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everytime a new season comes out

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people cant make a character for 2 months

oak tangle
deep nimbus
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"past 12s and into actual keys" PEPELA

little current
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no more fotm rollers

thorn thorn
little current
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i know

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im a genius

thorn thorn
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Big ideas

midnight scroll
little current
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The People arent ready for this

thorn thorn
little current
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unless ur in a vc

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interrupt assignments are impossible

oak tangle
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so you win some you lose more

little current
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dude

thorn thorn
severe meadow
thorn thorn
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Thats always how it goes

severe meadow
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I can't be fucked after 12 resil

thorn thorn
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And push into title

little current
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who's ready for Opening Of The Dark Portal for next seasons rotation

midnight scroll
thorn thorn
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No idea

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It goes up slowly as the season goes on

coral ibex
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oh i mean i guess i didn't pug my resil 12's bc my guild did m+ groups the first 2 weeks for mythic prog

oak tangle
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with turbo boost and the way this seasons going 4k

severe meadow
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I'd guess 18s - 19s

coral ibex
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but everything above like 2900

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has been pugged

thorn thorn
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I think 19s are a safe bet

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Since 20s are already being done

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Might see some 21s and maybe some 22s

midnight scroll
thorn thorn
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Real

dense cedar
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big rogue tip

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apply bleeds

oak tangle
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at what point is living sacred tolls just not possible

thorn thorn
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When you die instantly

little current
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WHAT

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preposterous

midnight scroll
dense cedar
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super big tip

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when running DTB

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apply 4 poisons

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huge info

little current
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STOP

oak tangle
little current
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YOUR TIP IS TOO BIG

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ITS TEARING ME APART

thorn thorn
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Going by WCL tho a 20 hasnt been done yet on priory

little current
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i mean

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that makes sense

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priory has a lot of nasty burst damage

severe meadow
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However accurate this is

midnight scroll
thorn thorn
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Based on log data though, that limit might be approaching quickly

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prisma carbon
thorn thorn
oak tangle
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i guess part of it is tank staggering the pull so they dont have casts lined up

little current
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sacred toll is fucking nasty

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i really dislike like, the meta of M+ trying to game burst damage

oak tangle
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AVERAGE HIT 13.5m

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KEK

little current
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i really dislike in higher keys, like 13+ where you can just.. die from a bolt and aoe

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and there's nothing you can do

oak tangle
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that's my mage in 10's

severe meadow
thorn thorn
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That key they had an rsham

little current
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rshams meta rn tho right

severe meadow
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rdruid and shaman

little current
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i only heal on mist

rotund oak
oak tangle
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nearly

rotund oak
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😉

little current
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i only heal on mist cause I like how passive it is

thorn thorn
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I wonder where they had to heal divine tolls peppersprayLaugh

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little current
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you just get free maint heal

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i will say

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I havent figured out how to do collapsing star on mw

oak tangle
little current
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like do I just have to get a ranged to do it?
or pray that it spawns close enough to the boss that I can heal the group while its ticking them for damage

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665 chest

thorn thorn
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You have a ranged do it in that instance unless you get insanely good at micromanging your rolls and your port

little current
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not a fan

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caustic listen

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i feel you

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i got a champ chest and ring on my frost mage

oak tangle
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i have been spamming eco dome / priory, still no chest drop

thorn thorn
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Normally healers do it themselves but MW kinda gets fukt since they gotta be in melee to heal properly

little current
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sometimes you just never get it

little current
thorn thorn
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Alternatively

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Play rdruid

little current
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tis the price we pay to play the best and most fun healer

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EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

thorn thorn
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And laugh at that healing check

little current
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druid has too many buttons for me

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yknow when you're at the supermarket

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and theres a ton of tasty snacks

oak tangle
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i got shot, into a leap by shaynemail... i just died

thorn thorn
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Hybrid macros

little current
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and you just kinda panic cause theres too much to chose from

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thats how pally and druid feel for me

rotund oak
midnight scroll
thorn thorn
little current
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utility wise at least

little current
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my dewberry cookies have bugs in them

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due

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dude

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this asian grocer i go to on sundays

thorn thorn
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Tell your lizard to cauterize you

little current
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i mean saturdays

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they had them

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and they havent restocked them in a month

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i need more

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they're so fucking good

oak tangle
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da hell is a dewberry

thorn thorn
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berry from a dew probably

oak tangle
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they're just blackberries with extra steps

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which is just blueberries with extra steps

little current
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these things

midnight scroll
little current
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strawberry/blueberry + cream cookies

thorn thorn
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I wont lie they do look kinda good

little current
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they're good

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so good

thorn thorn
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@haughty flicker are you based

haughty flicker
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i am glorp

oak tangle
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we got similar

thorn thorn
haughty flicker
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unfortunately not

thorn thorn
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You know what that means

haughty flicker
thorn thorn
little current
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DUDE

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i stf

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im scared of that shit happening to me

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everytime I do ara-kara

severe meadow
thorn thorn
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@rotund oak

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This one made special for you

little current
rotund oak
thorn thorn
oak ember
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During fatebound mini burst, do we use one charge of shiv with coldblood to proc the coins or with the last seconds of kingsbane?

thorn thorn
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Back in DF fated I was trialing with a guild to find one for TWW and we were doing rashok

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And the vdh always died on that boss, when I looked at logs out of curiosity cuz him and the other tank (a bear) always got in a discussion about it, it turns out he was dieing to the taunt swap just never being done right

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Somehow the bear gaslight him into believing you were supposed to live the whole combo

midnight scroll
thorn thorn
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I have seen terrible things

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Like in another previous guild, the guilds mythic RL was a feral player and on more than 0 logs I saw they had 0% uptime on rip

dense cedar
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???

thorn thorn
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Yea I dont really have an answer for that

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There is no further context

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He sucked at feral

main bridge
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one of my friends plays feral and he is a beast

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i almost never beat his dps

thorn thorn
midnight scroll
main bridge
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wtf are they doin

thorn thorn
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Not playing feral idk

midnight scroll
# thorn thorn He sucked at feral

yea no shit that's like me playing elden ring for the first time and wanting to go bleed build so i naturally leveled int and strength

main bridge
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i totally get that being a RL has a cognitive tax but like press rip once idk

thorn thorn
main bridge
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they should reroll hunter

midnight scroll
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Try to get as close to 100% as the encounter allows!

thorn thorn
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It was fyrakk

midnight scroll
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Didn't play DF, but i can imagine what you mean by this

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probably should've been 101% uptime

thorn thorn
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Could very easily have been more than 44%

midnight scroll
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i mean

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to be fair

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44>0

thorn thorn
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it does get worse

unkempt lantern
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Thank goodness tehy shove Midnight down our throats but dont fix the current content

thorn thorn
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(Lunar inspiration was talented)

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thorn thorn
coral ibex
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i played like shit fresh out the ass tonight

haughty flicker
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same friend

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i locked in that dogshit fract performance

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then spent half of soul hunters prog not using a trinket because it was in the wrong slot

coral ibex
fallow canopy
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always shadowstep kidney shot the mced

coral ibex
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wasn't me

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was a frame perfect counterspell by a mage

runic hinge
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Stop roasting me

arctic pivot
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I love whispyr guides for info and understanding but is there a creator that posts live or commentary videos of high m+ runs regularly?

cyan lily
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no fix lol

oak tangle
rotund oak
sinful ice
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How to kill freaking Loom'ithar in mythic it’s just smthing that will wipe u if 1 fail or I don’t understand all?

arctic pivot
oak tangle
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right, but what commentary would you be looking for

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my understanding of commentary is them sayign what they are pressing and why

regal linden
runic hinge
sharp trellis
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Finally saw a ping > click on it full of hope > even more bugs

static glacier
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Issue is there’s a trade off between education and optimal play at points

frozen iris
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Weird question but do any y’all use a glass mousepad

oak tangle
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you are right, that is weird

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specifically cause i thought glass would make for a terrible material for the laser to figure out how its moving

frozen iris
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Na, glass pads have been around quite a while and are used in the fps community. However it’s niche. Often requires special skates

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I’m shopping for a new mousepad but o I’m super messy, lots of cat hair

glacial stump
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
sinful ice
normal mist
humble verge
coral ibex
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yea i fucking hate it

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we soak so close to the dragons

humble verge
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honestly

frozen iris
humble verge
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did u not see my kill video

sinful ice
coral ibex
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i did not

oak tangle
sinful ice
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It slides better than on normal one

frozen iris
coral ibex
oak tangle
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but he looked alive

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and full hp

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and gets mced

coral ibex
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he eats a soak and a laser

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get stunned

sinful ice
oak tangle
coral ibex
oak tangle
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the mc is the other mage no?

coral ibex
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no

oak tangle
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nah im just blind af

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i just assumed longer name meant other mage

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lol

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cell frames or whatever baiting for days

earnest remnant
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Probably just using the liquid nicknames thing

coral ibex
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yes

tidal hatch
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craziest part is im prolly gonna have to watch this shit again

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red schooner
tidal hatch
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that is always sunny in philadelphia time

red schooner
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Not anymore

humble verge
oak tangle
summer cape
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Let' s say i'm kinda ok with assa mechanics, beside my death at araz, i was studying for soul hunters MM because i usually struggle keeping my dps up even in HC, anyone got any tips for it?

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oak tangle
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what build do you play

red schooner
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For soul hunters its bleed build normally

summer cape
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bleed death stalker

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yep

oak tangle
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how stacked are the bosses on H?

coral ibex
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4:45 kill on fract is too slow

summer cape
oak tangle
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my guild's ranged love to kite the hunt out into narnia

coral ibex
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best kt is ~3:30

summer cape
coral ibex
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18 stack prism + vanish + pot in execute

grim jay
oak tangle
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warcraftlogs dead for anyone else?

summer cape
grim jay
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Tho my mates are quite fried aswell

summer cape
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I'm watching at top logs and all the kills are between 4:20-4:40 tho

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some crazy 3:58

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But i like to play my class as best as i can, can't play for everyone else, my only flaw is that i'm just one :C

coral ibex
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that cant be right, my guild killed it in 3:21 a month ago iirc

summer cape
summer cape
coral ibex
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you asked about heroic?

balmy condor
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I think he thought heroic yeh

summer cape
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yeh, no i was asking about myth soul hunters

oak tangle
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nah he said he did bad on heroic, was studying to improve for mythic

summer cape
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because i struggle at hc aswel

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I defend myself but my HC average on soul hunters it's purple, on other boss it's yellow

coral ibex
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its just kill time and getting as many dm's in execute as you can

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(and cleave on cleave fights)

oak tangle
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yellow? 100's?

glacial stump
summer cape
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My problem is understanding when how and if to lose gcds to apply rupture/garrote on other target

balmy condor
#

hold the second vanish charge for execute

glacial stump
balmy condor
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if there is a target without rupture, or the rupture is in pandemic

and you do not have darkest night up

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you rupture

balmy condor
oak tangle
#

having crimson tempests with 3 stacks is probs hugely important too

summer cape
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and i need to remember to keep 100% uptime on crimson tempest but with no stacked bosses it's a pain in the ass to hit all 3

balmy condor
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then you'll never parse

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you're hitting 2 targets while everyone else is hitting 3

coral ibex
#

yea you can't compete with kills that have the bosses stacked the entire time

balmy condor
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GG you lose

summer cape
#

Yep

coral ibex
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yell at your tanks

summer cape
#

I hate my life

oak tangle
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my guild pulls out adarus after his first solo section, cause he lower than the others despairge

summer cape
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i wish i could, one of them it's the raid leader and she'll cry if yelled

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i like to yell at people :c

red schooner
#

I still have no clue how to play that fight

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Soul hunters is my least favourite boss

summer cape
#

Really appreciate all your help guys tho

red schooner
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Feels like chaos

summer cape
grim jay
golden loom
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heroic soul hunters is weird cause nothing does damage
mythic soul hunters is weird cause it feels like you are perma dying garf

balmy condor
#

yeh

grim jay
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They dont do really good councils anymore

red schooner
balmy condor
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heroic you take damage from nothing, mythic you have 5 healers and you feel like you need 2 more

red schooner
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I don't like council fights uglyassdog

summer cape
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castle nathria council was fun

grim jay
summer cape
#

maybe because it was a masked 1 boss fight

oak tangle
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councils eat ass

red schooner
golden loom
grim jay
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Vault of the incarnates council was fine aswell ngl

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But other than that

oak tangle
grim jay
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Emerald dream council was a fucking nightmare

oak tangle
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(arterial)

golden loom
#

and that is after using cloak evasion feint cheat death and every external in the game

grim jay
#

Even if its damage taken

summer cape
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i would be more than happy to end this tier CE 7/8

golden loom
red schooner
summer cape
#

dinars or you just need fractilus to have boots in vault

golden loom
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yeah but u have to kill it once to be able to dinar

coral ibex
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am i crazy or are the soaks in p1 nexus king coded as attacks and get fully dodged by evasion

red schooner
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Dinars are my salvation

golden loom
coral ibex
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i swear sometimes i evasion and take literally no damage

summer cape
#

Remember this day, we will talk on wednesday

golden loom
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are you sure its not massbarrier or smthin else

coral ibex
#

no

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im not sure

summer cape
#

kekw

golden loom
#

like you can cloak it cause its magic damage but evasion sounds strange

summer cape
#

depends if you have elusiveness talented

golden loom
#

what would that matter

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for dodging

summer cape
#

20% damage reduction on evasion

golden loom
#

yeah but he was asking if its coded as a attack

coral ibex
golden loom
#

that evasion would dodge

coral ibex
#

im cooked

summer cape
#

ohhh ok then i misread

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:V

golden loom
oak tangle
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lets be real tho, evasion has immuned aoes before

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so dracthyr_shrug

golden loom
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I do like getting banishment + soak overlap so u can just cloak and relax garf

oak tangle
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and cloak has worked on phys circles

coral ibex
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we have people missing soaks all the time and i have to hold my cloak to immune soak for them

golden loom
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last time people missed the soak I got mindcontrolled and aoe blinded the raid

oak tangle
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rekt

coral ibex
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based

golden loom
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so the tank wasnt able to defensive for his solo soak and died

coral ibex
oak tangle
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go down swinging

golden loom
#

I do love mc fights

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wipe is called = I am pikaboo

humble umbra
golden loom
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so either you just didnt step or you never got a mechanic garf

oak tangle
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also attrocious kill time

humble umbra
#

if we get knocked back we have to sit

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or RL bites our dick off

golden loom
#

?

oak tangle
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well not a terrible kill time, but you delayed enough to not have the dm at end

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so terrible

marsh fjord
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So if you get wall and get pushed back your walking back?

golden loom
#

why wouldnt you be allowed to step and run to your spread position

coral ibex
#

your kingsbane after dm is late

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you cast it at like :58

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the more you delay the worse your end becomes

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also what

humble umbra
coral ibex
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just shadowstep lol

golden loom
coral ibex
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no spread positions???

golden loom
#

okay I mean

coral ibex
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yea gg i guess

golden loom
#

ur raid is already trolling you

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nothing that can be done

humble umbra
coral ibex
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that’s wild

golden loom
#

like the boss is legit

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follow the weakaura

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go to ur spread position

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target dummy

coral ibex
#

press ss when you get knocked back and walk to your spot

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gg

golden loom
#

and as rogue you legit have 100% uptime

grim jay
#

Id probably just gquit if my RL had no clue and would try to forbid me using anything

golden loom
#

cause u step every thing and never even lose a autoattack

grim jay
thorn thorn
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@humble verge Good news, i have found my new form of pain that makes me forget about dimmy prog

golden loom
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actually the only way you lose uptime is if u get every single mechanic and run out of step charges cause ur playing fatebound and not ds garf

marsh fjord
golden loom
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I just step both out of habit

coral ibex
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only breaks

oak tangle
coral ibex
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placing doesn’t knock you out of melee

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if ur forward enough

marsh fjord
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You dont have to be all to the back to place walls right?

thorn thorn
#

It takes in the form of doing ?? Kyveza as rdruid and dps brann cuz 1/3 times the portals happen he is on his bird and doesnt do them right

marsh fjord
#

you can just be in front

golden loom
oak tangle
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i'd get called out on H dim with the knock up circles in p1, i'm always in position in time, but because they don't see me immediately there they think im not going

grim jay
golden loom
#

but yeah if you step every wallplace aswell you do run the risk of not having a step charge for a break which is not good

#

so gotta pay attention

humble umbra
#

Thanks for the feedback anyway, I try to tighten up the CDs a bit more and see if I can get away with stepping and not feel the scottish wrath EZ

golden loom
#

you can just cloak and step

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cause you wont have a spread circle anyways

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cause if you cloak it doesnt get applied to you

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also tell your raid leader to step his game up garf heres a spread map @humble umbra

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humble umbra
#

Thanks peepoHeartFren

coral ibex
humble verge
static glacier
humble verge
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if you have a dk

humble umbra
#

I've sent her the map and seems like we might use it from now on lets see prayge

golden loom
golden loom
humble verge
golden loom
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Nerf dk is all im sayin

red schooner
#

They can't die so they don't give a shit garf

humble verge
# golden loom Nerf dk is all im sayin

when my dk is doing most add and boss damage on dim, and the one time i do most damage on dim and do extra damage on adds cause i was told to - and then get praised for it

static glacier
#

for us it's ele sham doing legit like

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6x the dmg of everyone else

#

on pull anyway

#

idk how that spec puts out like 300m damage in about 4-5 globals

humble verge
shrewd night
#

Good PI target, big trinket, fat cooldowns

humble verge
shrewd night
#

Source: Am feral

humble verge
shrewd night
#

I put my plonker straight across shamans face on pull consistently, melee supremacy

static glacier
#

sure

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gl on the adds

#

bro has legit dropped them to like 50% by like 6 globals is

shrewd night
#

Fuck add damage, add damage is fake

#

Add damage is cleave class propaganda

static glacier
#

this was the first time this tier

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it genuinely looked

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really really really

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imbalanced

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like not even remotely close

#

@humble verge @shrewd night first adds dmg kekw

image.png
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and this wasn't a cherry picked pull

shrewd night
#

Guess chain lightning just mega pads from the boss Yeah

humble verge
shrewd night
#

Wish I had mechanics like that in my class

static glacier
#

you shs one of the adds then walk up flag rup the boss

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and you'll be in the middle of the adds 24/7 (for the 10s they live kekw)

#

yeah just checked

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every pull is like this

humble verge
#

wait

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how the fuck do you limit

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to the first pack

#

im no wlogs genius

golden loom
#

he just took living mass and then snipped the timeline to first 10 seconds I think?

humble verge
#

how u snip it tho

golden loom
#

for example here

image.png
#

you just click and drag to mark a time u want

static glacier
#

it will look like that

#

you can do it if the add sets have numbers to only look at that set with filters too

#

this is easier though

humble verge
#

oh i see

#

i found it

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as you posted it lol

static glacier
#

i tried sin some earlier pulls

humble verge
#

but also, why the fuck do you guys have an uh instead of fdk

image.png
static glacier
#

I don't actually think uh is bad for this fight at all

#

having played it as both on hc on my dk

golden loom
#

if you kill it he will be the first UH to do it!

static glacier
#

lies

#

some guy got boosted

#

already kekw

golden loom
#

ah but no public logs

static glacier
#

idk if they removed the log

golden loom
humble verge
#

well

static glacier
#

lmao they actually removed it

humble verge
#

atleast u guys dont have a vdh

static glacier
#

here's the pic

#

first 6 clearly bad luck

grim jay
static glacier
#

wierd thing is i think this guy is omega high ilvl

grim jay
#

Fdk can suck my toes

humble verge
#

fdk is so simple

#

i could jork it while i play

grim jay
static glacier
golden loom
#

frost is fun in keys atleast

static glacier
#

uh is better on pure st, it just struggles when mixing cleave as efficiently as frost

#

it mainly does well in like 6+t

grim jay
#

Unholy is more fun in keys

static glacier
#

gameplay? sure

#

details nah

golden loom
#

I like scythes and seeing the exterminate animation pop off in aoe is satisfying garf

grim jay
grim jay
#

Its just more work and slightly worse

static glacier
#

notably it falls behind outside of cds

#

id argue it has better 90s than fdk

#

esp with lust or pi

grim jay
#

I got the feeling that we will see uhdk in mdi again

static glacier
#

haste juices uh so hard

static glacier
#

the mass aoe on that spec is ridiculous

#

esp in long mdi style pulls where they can dot while gathering pack

golden loom
#

fury w rise up

oak tangle
#

arcane, druid, which necessitates dh, which probs leans to a second magic dps, and the question is dh tank or war i guess

humble verge
#

that reminds me i need to level boost my warrior too

static glacier
#

i suspect fury lacks the burst

#

since they gota kill like 30 mobs in a tight timer before stops run out

#

then they get a recovery pull

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fury doesn't really play into this

#

it just always has good dmg

humble verge
#

are u talking about flood or gambit

golden loom
#

just play fury for the semi decent aoe and insane single target garf

#

as it raid buffs the dk

grim jay
#

Before we will see a fury, we will see sub

static glacier
#

wouldn't it just be prot warr too?

#

im fairly sure they're max dps tank

golden loom
#

oh yeah thats a class aswell

#

I forgor

static glacier
#

and facilitate all the ap classes

#

also huntard

#

black arrow specs

golden loom
#

ye maybe its just unplayable cause prot w is so good

#

and all the other tanks dont do anything special

oak tangle
#

so, prot war, rdruid, arcane, havoc, huntard

static glacier
#

im unsure if they care about 2x prio classes

golden loom
#

skip the arcane and play dk

static glacier
#

arcane probably goes

#

ye

grim jay
#

Maybe there will be a group with brew, rsham/rdruid, fury hunter dk

static glacier
#

dk > arc here

grim jay
oak tangle
#

when is mdi?

golden loom
#

especially in mass aoe havoc is probably better prio than arcane

grim jay
#

Idk, havent seen a good dh in a while

static glacier
#

honestly

#

maybe sub or sin creep into mdi

sharp viper
quiet oar
static glacier
#

but no real group buff is rough

#

and we're not overtuned

sharp viper
#

good single target CC but that is basically of no value

grim jay
static glacier
#

but for some fucking reason they just let 2-3 classes have everything

#

so shit like rogue that has only gotten worse over the years is now approaching warr / hunter levels of utility destitution

grim jay
#

Ye rogue viability is kinda just hinging on tuning

#

And damage profile

#

Its probably even the only class without a valid aoe cc, depending on what you count as valid

quiet oar
#

why does it need a duration

#

There are some little things, that are just annoying quirks

scarlet orbit
#

to add friction?

reef walrus
#

!stats

prisma monolithBOT
#

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

  • Signet of the Priory will require you have Mastery as your highest RATING (the actual number, not the %). Having Crit and Mastery close to one another will cause procs from Flask or Seaforium Pacemaker to cause your Signet to give you Crit. This is generally worse and will cause Signet to sim poorly.
  • Compared to each other, Deathstalker wants more Mastery/Haste than Fatebound, and Fatebound wants more Crit than Deathstalker
  • Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
grim jay
quiet oar
#

No no

#

Your point just reminded me of this

#

That Rogue in General has some quirks that make it less fun to play

#

And probably why not many people play it

spice surge
#

Why isnt it perma, then it wouldnt constantly bug out

quiet oar
#

Ye true

red schooner
#

The fix for fatebound tier is probably just making it flat cooldown reduction.

#

No capstone nonsense, just, 'deathmark is 90, fatebound is 45'

quiet oar
#

Ye

red schooner
#

But they had to be fancy and try to be thematic and it fucked things.

#

Meanwhile dark ranger 2 piece, flat CDR, as far as I know, no bugs

desert crest
#

Yeah the cdr on fatebound is really really dumb

quiet oar
#

I mean every class has it quriks

red schooner
#

Like, it just feels like they made it so much harder than it had to be

quiet oar
#

but i feel like rogue has so much of it and bugs

#

Like no wonder we are least played

#

(next to evoker)

red schooner
#

Its just silly

quiet oar
#

Well you potentially COULD fuck it

#

right

red schooner
#

I guess maybe for m+ stuff but who the fuck runs FB in m+

quiet oar
#

But thats like inting on purpose

red schooner
#

Either way, the dark ranger 2 piece is there, they have the technology

sharp viper
red schooner
quiet oar
#

There is also no technology for Guild Bank to contain more than 9 million

#

While Warband is far more

sharp viper
quiet oar
#

Idk

#

im too poor too

sharp viper
quiet oar
#

but its more than 10 mil

#

While character and Guild bank is still capped

sharp viper
#

wts transmogs to rich sugar mommy/sugar daddy for wow gold

#

I havent had more than 500k gold since I got a twilight dev rank 3 boe in bfa

quiet oar
#

im constantly at 2 mill

red schooner
#

I'm at about 1mil account wide

jaunty sky
red schooner
#

Buying the rune thing hurt

jaunty sky
#

i do also hope they keep a prism/spymaster-esque trinket around

humble verge
#

you guys are just poor

image.png
quiet oar
#

imagine boosting

jaunty sky
#

this guy showing imaginary money

#

lmao

humble verge
#

true

#

but i wanna tell you this is max like

#

4 hours of raiding

red schooner
#

But I already raid enough during normal raid times

#

Why would I want to do it more?

humble verge
#

well

#

im just doing quick ansurek/gally runs

#

and 1 glory omega run

tired bloom
red schooner
#

Also the fuck would I spend that gold on?

humble verge
#

idk

tired bloom
#

time tokens

humble verge
#

i spent 2,5mil

#

on epic midnight

jaunty sky
red schooner
#

I just do world quests and I'm self sufficient for raiding mats etc

severe meadow
humble verge
jaunty sky
#

working below minimum wage IN A VIDEO GAME

humble verge
red schooner
jaunty sky
#

i'm saying

severe meadow
midnight mist
jaunty sky
#

get a real job and you'll make like 1.5 times of that AT LEAST

tired bloom
jaunty sky
#

i have a real job rn

quiet oar
humble verge
red schooner
#

I just do world quests for lower rank crests and get gold that way. It ain't much

quiet oar
jaunty sky
quiet oar
humble verge
jaunty sky
#

and change some money into coins

humble verge
tired bloom
jaunty sky
#

true true

#

you could just get a better job

humble verge
red schooner
normal mist
tired bloom
#

depends where, minimum wage in eastern europe is around 5/h, so making 10/h in wow sounds like a no brainer

normal mist
humble verge
jaunty sky
#

yeah but it's 10 that you can only use on blizzard store

quiet oar
#

especially as officer

normal mist
#

Odn

red schooner
jaunty sky
#

oh yeah as soon as u gotta organize shit it's like being a store manager

red schooner
#

Just like my actual job

jaunty sky
#

or kindergardener