assassination

[south prawn]

welp guess sin is cooked

[jaunty sky]

Do u have a blindside proc

[oak tangle]

do you have spec hero talents in?

the first one is mut isnt it?

oh nvm

deadly poison

[south prawn]

i tried alt f4 rn

letss see

[south prawn]

ok its fixed now

wtf is that

[oak tangle]

to do damage

[runic hinge]

Another day another Reddit post hating on rogue

[oak tangle]

it's the fotm rerollers from dragonflight

asking why they can't come back and fotm yet

[balmy condor]

Dangerous ping, like I need any of that

Glad it helped

[runic hinge]

I’ll give you a different kind of inflation

[spice surge]

If you swap spec while blindside is up it bugs out and you need to relog iirc

[oak tangle]

sometimes in a sea of complainers and "bug fixes when" people, seeing the appreciation goes unnoticed

[flat pier]

Assassination will receive another round of bugs for patch 11.2.

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171

[cerulean walrus]

World of Warcraft guide writer Whispyr has released a new list of rules regarding the Rogue APL. Our damage scales, or as he puts it… inflates. Check out Whispyr Inflation Rule 34 for more information.

[coral ibex]

ive had this issue multiple times in the last week

nobody can ever help identify the bug

it only goes away by completely rebooting

[oak tangle]

bliz removing mut?? 👀

[normal mist]

@balmy condor i have a question about simming that idk if it is possible or not to do, lmk when you're around

[south prawn]

Blizzard just can't help themselves with the rogue bugs xd

[analog field]

@balmy condor i have mythic lily and champion prism and pace, sim suggests not using pace. Should i follow ? if yes in m+ or raid or both ?

what's your instinct

[oak tangle]

my instinct, is he not gonna like that question XD

[pure moth]

^

[analog field]

i agree but the motto is trust the robot 😛

[jaunty sky]

Do you want to play double on use

[analog field]

irrelevant

i want to play what does more dmg

[woven frost]

Or being pinged

[jaunty sky]

Sprry i phrased that wrong

CAN you play double on use to full potential

[analog field]

still irrelevant i think

i can't play anything in full potential

we are here so we try our best

[oak tangle]

ummmmm.....

[jaunty sky]

Yeah but if you misplay double on use you literally only have 1.5 trinkets

[oak tangle]

then the sim is irrelevant

[jaunty sky]

Instead of two

[coral ibex]

double on use isnt hard to use in raid, you just bind lily to dm and prism to vanish and then vanish early for the 3m dm

[analog field]

i mean if it is the better choice i will try to do it even if it is difficult

its like saying dont take antena

coz you will miss orbs

ok maybe i will but what does it matter

[jaunty sky]

Ok then pick bigger number on sim

[rotund jungle]

what would u take?

[analog field]

that's why i ask whisp , maybe he can explain that the number is wrong or that i shouldn't for X reason

[rotund jungle]

got forg and nether on hc

playing sub and assa

boots on hc

[analog field]

sim it, but if you want more assa it is antenna on sub idk it can be boots ?

[rotund jungle]

Trinket sims 200k better on sub in D Slice and trinket sims 40 k better on assa in ST

[balmy condor]

Probably just play pace anyway, but champ is a huge oof and you probably don’t need the crit

[mossy sundial]

Isn't this insanely troll

Cause you need to vanish with both dm and kb buff up

[coral ibex]

?

it doesn't matter when you vanish as long as it procs on edge case flips

you can vanish before the first shiv

or after DM

or right before your next envenom

[analog field]

with prism actually you have to vanish before even DM i think

[coral ibex]

if ur concerned about it you can just separately bind your trinkets

but it doesn't matter where you vanish as long as it procs on edge case flips

!dj

[prisma monolith]

Vanishing On Fatebound

• you vanish for double jeopardy, a Fatebound talent
• this causes your next flip to flip an additional coin, and this coin can be an edge-case coin
• because of this, you want to vanish when you know the next flip is an edge-case flip
• edge case flips happen as a result of pressing deathmark, kingsbane, or the two envenoms afterwards which are affected by cold blood. You can vanish before ANY of these flips.
• you should be vanishing every 3 minutes, lining up with every other deathmark, and this will also align with netherprism every 3 minutes for maximum burst

[coral ibex]

edge case flips happen as a result of pressing deathmark, kingsbane, or the two envenoms afterwards which are affected by cold blood. You can vanish before ANY of these flips.

[analog field]

yeah but with prism you wanna buff the coins

i remember a convo from whisp I think

[mossy sundial]

[lean plover]

28th day of checking pins

[balmy condor]

If you macro prism to vanish you want to vanish before deathmark ideally yes

But it’s not really that important

[humble verge]

time for a week of 9h with p1 dimensius prog

[inland dirge]

[sick bone]

Can we assume the bugs won’t be addressed this year? Maybe in midnight if we’re lucky

[main bridge]

They will add more bugs

[coral ibex]

i send ion an email every day begging him to block any patches that fix rogue bugs

[vital haven]

grappling hook has been bugged in the overworld since sepulcher

obv different bugs have different prios but just to put as an example

[jaunty sky]

Killing spree was unchanged in it's mechanics since it's inception in WotLK before it was changed A MONTH AGO

[midnight scroll]

how do we use netherprism on deathstalker?

[marsh fjord]

With DM

[jaunty sky]

every 2 mins

[midnight scroll]

oooh nice i'm an idiot

thanks

[marsh fjord]

I didnt wanted to say it

[jaunty sky]

I sometimes skip a prism use on DM in M+ so i can giga blast the next one but I'm very sure that's not useful

but it does feel good

[marsh fjord]

I mean thats kinda worth it if its like the mini boss in halls and so on

it actually saves you time

[jaunty sky]

yeah that's the part where it's most likely not worth it

the spots i decide to do it

[coral ibex]

but you will have like 12-14 stacks every 2 minutes

skipping a use is just a massive waste of stacks

[jaunty sky]

yeah but 18>14

[coral ibex]

yea but 28 > 18

[jaunty sky]

i know it's not good

[coral ibex]

its not only not good

its strictly worse

[jaunty sky]

that's what i'm sayin

[marsh fjord]

as example im hitting 3th boss in halls. my DM is coming off cooldown. boss is 40%. netherprism is high stacks. im just holding for mini boss

Also im talking high keys. like 16/17s

Where mini add needs to die before first healing

[jaunty sky]

yeah that's one of the spots i hold as well if i remember to

but also my highest key done rn is a 13 on rogue

[marsh fjord]

Yeah i dont think it matters to much

at that key level

[coral ibex]

yea i mean holding cds entirely is one thing

sending dm with no trinket so your next use 2 minutes later has 4 more stacks

is another

[runic hinge]

bugs are both in the tier set, so just wait for next tier

[jaunty sky]

it doesnt in the sense of 'does it make or break the key' but i feel like if tank pulls the guy down it's a very high chance to one phase the guy

which is more fun than doing that dance like 2 to 3 times

[coral ibex]

meh its probably better to just send and then swap to wound poison for the heal cast

[marsh fjord]

I really think if 12.5 patch notes comes out and there are no bug fixes for Assa i think they wont come at all.

[runic hinge]

Singular focus is kinda whatever id like them to actually fix FB tier so it's not randomly annoying

[marsh fjord]

Yeah talking specfially about FB

I dont care about the damage loss of DS

[jaunty sky]

yeah FB tier unsyncing is so disorienting

[golden loom]

I almost had a repeat of my fract RNG on plexus by getting the tier set bug into double cds in execute

but boss died..

[humble verge]

1 hour progress

[flat pier]

https://tenor.com/view/cant-see-anything-ken-jeong-ben-chang-its-so-tiny-cant-see-gif-4279507211752143591

[marsh fjord]

Kaipo's guild ( i dont know if you know them) is at 350 pulls almost

[severe meadow]

23rd pull is the one

[humble verge]

that was worse

[severe meadow]

[humble verge]

i love flexing being a 20 viewer andy cause the other top national guilds doesnt raid or are doing reclear rn

love being hatewatched

[clever sparrow]

how long does it take for soulbinder to spawn mobs?

[humble verge]

wdym

the first of the first?

[clever sparrow]

na i mean that phase it spawn lots of mobs

[quick cobalt]

!shiv

[prisma monolith]

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[humble verge]

should be like

bit before 2 minutes

or after

i forgor

[clever sparrow]

kk

so i should have cds probably

if i dont hold anything like animals

[balmy condor]

It’s okay, I’d hate to lovewatch you

[quick cobalt]

hello guys, by any chance does anyone have this macro in french please ?

it isn't working when i try to change the spell names into their french version for some reason 🙁

(thistle tea macro)

[analog field]

it's like on 2min so you have cd's exactly, and you hold at 4 min for like 15 ? or something

[humble verge]

whar

[humble verge]

but you do know you can, to inflate my viewership

nobody talks in my chat anyways rofl

[balmy condor]

Hey same

Not really, there’s like 5 or 6 vibers

[humble verge]

wdym

i literally yap

when u stream

when i catch it accidentally

[balmy condor]

I stream passed your bedtime

Go to sleep

[humble verge]

🛌

maybe ill get affiliate

i have more than enough the requirements

[gray hazel]

Blizzard really waiting for HoF to close to to tuning, and fix all the assassination bugs

[clever sparrow]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/acxmKwFGYBMT9D84?fight=17&type=damage-done
HELP ME PLS

😭

SOULBINDER IS HARD

[analog field]

nothing to do just press buttons

[coral ibex]

did you send DM at 2:05 and 4:30?

if not

you fucked up

[analog field]

and hold dm at 4 for a bit

[clever sparrow]

i send 2nd DM like animals

at 4:10

[coral ibex]

gg

[clever sparrow]

smthiing like that

i guess that ruined me

yeah 4:15

didnt know the timings ...

[jaunty sky]

also use your trinket

[coral jewel]

Is the soulbinder build shown in wowhead the same we use in mythic? My damage was so low last night

[jaunty sky]

like every 2 minutes

instead of once the whole fight

or rather with every DM

[humble verge]

you hold DM and KB for the BIG add phases

[analog field]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/28QYztw9dHrDLRn4?fight=12&type=damage-done you can compare i just did that

[humble verge]

dont just use em on CD

thats how you pad

[scarlet orbit]

that dm window at 2 min is also a bit messy

[coral jewel]

Yeh ok. Will give it a crack next week. Thanks

[clever sparrow]

how to fix it?

[coral ibex]

every dm window should be dm>shiv>kb and then shiv again when the first falls off

this isn't negotiable

[clever sparrow]

got it

[jolly stirrup]

I will test this

[midnight scroll]

holy shit my damage sucks since getting antenna + prism idk what i'm doing wrong

[jolly stirrup]

I also checked top Assa log, he rarely used FoK

why?

[royal lantern]

huh

[midnight scroll]

yea i know it's weird

[royal lantern]

its a passive and a macro trinket

[humble verge]

prolly didnt want to

[jolly stirrup]

but its better during add phase no?

[humble verge]

well yes

[jolly stirrup]

basically as soon as 3 are on screen?

[humble verge]

but sometimes fok will not crit

and only give u 1cp

[midnight scroll]

probably (and i hope it's this) just my raid having too much damage for heroic and that fucks me up

cause we just recleared and i felt weak

[jolly stirrup]

ok mutilate can give 2 at least I guess no?

because 2 weapons?

[humble verge]

yeah, and you can get ambush procs

[jolly stirrup]

I am struggling a lot at soulbinder

we raid myth again tomorow

I take all advice I can get

[royal lantern]

oh yeha, thats 100% normal lol

[balmy condor]

5*

[jolly stirrup]

oh i see

[royal lantern]

used to cleaving stuff, and then 3 weeks into the tier the stuff you cleaved just dies in 3 seconds

[jolly stirrup]

so basically I only use FoK on Naazin when we are in the middle and all adds come?

[midnight scroll]

yea i barely saw adds on soulbinder earlier

[jolly stirrup]

otherwise mutilate?

[balmy condor]

might actually be 6 now, it was almost 6 last season, I assume with more gear and more mastery it's probably 6 now but it's whatever

[balmy condor]

I mean even then there's a good chance one of them die early and you go back to mut, but yes

[royal lantern]

idk, if its more then 3 enemys and i have the Deathstalker FoK thingy up

im gonna use FoK

stop me

[balmy condor]

well if you have clear the witnesses up you press it on 2 targets

that's not in question

that shit hits like a truck

[jolly stirrup]

and I hold 2nd DM and KB window for Add group in middle?

[balmy condor]

yes

[jolly stirrup]

or use on cd still

okok

[balmy condor]

2:05 and 4:30

[jolly stirrup]

I hope my damage will be better tomorrow

[jolly stirrup]

Ah its set times on this fight?

always?

[balmy condor]

yes

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/truck-two-trucks-flushed-pointing-fingers-gif-13614254948635968570

[jolly stirrup]

So I can open with normal rotation, then hold until 2:05 and 4:30

[balmy condor]

well 2:05 isn't a hold

you're always going to be late to that one

[royal lantern]

but yeha

[jolly stirrup]

Ye lines up

but hold for 4:30

[royal lantern]

just dont use cds on pull

[balmy condor]

yes

5head

[jolly stirrup]

Thanks Whispyr, as always much appreciated

I will report back tomorrow with Log

[weary stump]

I demand plank not log

[jolly stirrup]

That can be arranged

[humble verge]

2 hours of progress

still have yet to hit p2

[jolly stirrup]

Dimi?

[humble verge]

yeah

[jolly stirrup]

Ah glgl

U got this

[humble verge]

[main bridge]

Is it progress if you’re still in p1 after 2h?

[gilded harness]

Guys fairly new to rogue. I like the play style of Assassination, but still in a spot where learning Sub or Outlaw is an option. I'm currently only running +12s, no raiding. If I plan to go for 3500 io should I stick to Assassination or move on to any spec?

[humble verge]

you can get to 3,5k as assa

but you can play any spec to 3,5k

[astral plover]

Is there a world we play double on use ?

[humble verge]

assa? no

there is no value for us to use on-use trinket outside DM

[fallow canopy]

That sounds about right

[humble verge]

42 pulsl no P2

you guys got to p2 after 62 pulls

[rotund oak]

you can but its feels bad,also no real gains.Creates more problems than actually adding dmg

also what uberscot said

[rotund oak]

eating oreo cheesecake

(irrelevant but im here to make you jealy)

[earnest remnant]

dw before the p1 nerfs it took me 53pulls to see p2 once

its not that bad

[humble verge]

aint no way you are also using prism with lily

[humble verge]

YEAH BUT THATS PRENERF

THIS IS NERFED DAWG

[earnest remnant]

could be worse

[rotund oak]

https://tenor.com/view/raccoon-handshake-fake-tease-feint-gif-4376603321991465533

actual stealthi representation

[sharp viper]

[clever sparrow]

EZ

now sell it to monk

for 500k

[hollow vessel]

Any tips for Fractilus? I got a 99 and 98 in Sentinel and Loom, but a 71 in Fract... i dont get it...

Could augmentation buffs be affecting my logs?

[severe meadow]

Flip coins better

Desync better

[main bridge]

Fight length often has a big impact

[hollow vessel]

Yesterday was a 4:50 fight

Ans I had to break walls

[humble verge]

wait @balmy condor can i post clips from my stream here

🤨

[balmy condor]

if it's in context of answering a specific question, like for example lets say someone is asking how to deal with a boss mechanic and you use it as a visual help, then yes

[humble verge]

i just wanted to show

some weird ass devour wipe we had on dim here

we pulled and insta died

[balmy condor]

that would generally fall under self-promotion

but it's a touchy grey area

[fallow canopy]

Yep, no forge

[humble verge]

jaja i wont post it then

nw

[humble verge]

you have the opposite of me tho

i have hero lily and myth prism

[fallow canopy]

The dumbass rock hasn't dropped one yet

[humble verge]

he has dropped us 3

[celest ruin]

[fallow canopy]

We have been insanely unlucky with trinkets this tier

[tired bloom]

How does vanish help fatebound single target?

[balmy condor]

I saw my first myth dagger of the tier in my vault, took it, and we dropped our first loom dagger immediately after

[balmy condor]

!dj

[prisma monolith]

Vanishing On Fatebound

• you vanish for double jeopardy, a Fatebound talent
• this causes your next flip to flip an additional coin, and this coin can be an edge-case coin
• because of this, you want to vanish when you know the next flip is an edge-case flip
• edge case flips happen as a result of pressing deathmark, kingsbane, or the two envenoms afterwards which are affected by cold blood. You can vanish before ANY of these flips.
• you should be vanishing every 3 minutes, lining up with every other deathmark, and this will also align with netherprism every 3 minutes for maximum burst

[tired bloom]

Thanks

[fallow canopy]

we see one of those every week, guess how many antennas though?

(I'm the only rogue)

[humble verge]

ive only seen

1 myth dagger drop

iirc

[fallow canopy]

Most people already have the mog by this point

[humble verge]

and i got it

[clever sparrow]

WELL...

[humble verge]

holy ball

s

we almost managed the 2nd devour

[thorn thorn]

Yall beat salad bar???

[humble verge]

yeah

[winter willow]

!gear

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1405681489470951594/sin_.webp

[humble verge]

the one time i top dim damage

i get gravity

actually inting

[clever sparrow]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/fpdWn2DYNTFw3QHk?type=damage-done&fight=37

any mistake?

idk what to do i feel like im making mistakes

but idk where

[strange onyx]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/MLt4PCJbZXknKrBc?fight=35&type=damage-done riddle for you what did I do wrong on this pull? 🧠

[balmy condor]

speedrun time

3 2 1 go

no amp poison

time

[strange onyx]

damn he fast

Your reward is a premium membership to Archon!

[balmy condor]

could I trade that reward in for drilling a screw into my urethra instead

[strange onyx]

Go ahead and self inflict that

The Skoop doesnt wanna do that to anyone

[severe meadow]

[warm vortex]

Hello, am screw

[severe meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/bonk-gif-19410756

[warm vortex]

World of warcraft

[severe meadow]

The Burning Crusade

[worldly bridge]

Why does it sometimes feels like my KB comes back earlier than expected ? Its weird

[warm vortex]

Bug

[strange onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/buggriddy-lusgifs-bug-griddy-griddy-gif-1934725039210711653

[worldly bridge]

lovely

[warm vortex]

It's in the pins

[worldly bridge]

are we supposed to delay or send then ?

[warm vortex]

the post is over a motnh old

Because blizzard doesn't care about rogue, hence why im not one anymore

[sharp viper]

that's myth raid

[warm vortex]

Just saw this

I'm so fuckin jelly

:(

[granite sentinel]

depends on timers, top logs on fract mythic abusing the bug

[warm vortex]

I've been stitting on this pvp trink for a while

I just want my forge and my prism

[clever sparrow]

sell it!

[severe meadow]

Forge Prism returns..

[warm vortex]

Yus

Prolly isn't good for assa

but it's the nuts on BM

[severe meadow]

it's not

it's just funny when people ask about running them both

[clever sparrow]

swap to sub

[severe meadow]

why

[clever sparrow]

forge prism op on sub

[warm vortex]

Bro your playing rogue

[severe meadow]

I don't even run forge xd

I have prism and antenna

[clever sparrow]

a guy with parse of 18 and 3 potion in 98 pulls got myth antenna

in my guild rn

xd

[severe meadow]

that's how it always goes

[clever sparrow]

what can i say

[severe meadow]

why ya'll not doing LC

to avoid that

[clever sparrow]

it was LC tho

[severe meadow]

that's uh

pretty cringe ngl

[clever sparrow]

^^

im not mad or anything 3rd week in the guild tho

still a trial

so no right for loots anyway

[balmy condor]

my favorite is the "forge prism is so bonkers op" and you open like a rank 4 sub log and they lost a cast of forge and only cast it twice in 7 minutes

super insane

[severe meadow]

[clever sparrow]

its like forge prism forge prism tho

every 1:30 min so its normal 😄

ATLEAST THE FIRST BURST IS HIGH BCS OF FORGE xd

anyone got some tips for me?
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/fpdWn2DYNTFw3QHk?type=damage-done&fight=42

not satisfied with 64 tho

[balmy condor]

yeah and then there's the rank 1 sub rogue on araz, rank 8 all classes

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/vJbCM1P9W8YLghyK?fight=28&source=240&type=casts&ability=1232802

getting 1 and a little at the end in 5:40

[clever sparrow]

why did he used 2x netherprism back to back? WHY HE BURSTS WITH NETHERPRISM INSTEAD OF FORGE WHATS GOING ON HERE 😭

9,670...

i have no right to say why

but why...

[balmy condor]

bro I swear to god, if this is the best that double on use has to offer

I don't want any part of that cult

I see that shit and I simply cannot believe its worth it

you cannot convince me

[clever sparrow]

same same

[analog field]

lol poizen was in us and showed up fully drunk on one raid, and then he left or had a fight with RL

[clever sparrow]

wtf lol

tbh wow isnt a hard game idk why some people are soo bad at it

like after 40 try you shouldnt make any mistake

(atleast on most bosses lets not talk about KJ in TOS)

[analog field]

We got araz down to 8% at last

[clever sparrow]

is it harder than loom?

ARE WE COOKED? xd

[balmy condor]

yes

[clever sparrow]

well..

98 tries loom

lets aim for 300 tries araz

😭

[analog field]

My guild is late CE and has like 116 pulls on loom

but on araz we are around 40-50

[clever sparrow]

do we have any boss difficulty tier list?

[clever sparrow]

OH

[analog field]

Id say it is harder but for some peculiar reason it's going better

today we one shot re cleared first 3

[severe meadow]

3% buff is pretty big

[clever sparrow]

people mastered rotation on 116 pulls i guess

xd

[severe meadow]

when you're just passivly getting it

[clever sparrow]

3% versa ;D

another druid buff

[analog field]

I was 2 weeks away and they couldn't kill loom and when I came back we killed it in 1 hour xd

[clever sparrow]

they needed THE ROGUE B)

[analog field]

Buff is like 2 weeks no?

[blissful crane]

is there a sheet for timings on certain bosses for when to send cds

[main bridge]

https://lorrgs.io/spec_ranking/rogue-assassination/plexus-sentinel is a rough guide but largely it depends on your own fight timings and knowing the fights

[thorn thorn]

Another one for my collection

[quiet oriole]

We killed loom on monday! I think we are going to have tanking/healing issues for forge though...

[fresh kelp]

Soulbinder < Plexus << Loom < Frac (if good output easier than loom) < Araz <= DH <<<<< Nexus << Dimmy

[hollow talon]

is ass good on nexus

[hearty seal]

it's not terrible
you get like half the fight with two targets under rupture and garrote

[hollow talon]

we're getitng to p3 more often now wondering if its better for the single target

[severe meadow]

@normal mist pookie pookie

[hollow talon]

but i guess during the amp its not as good as sub

[hearty seal]

nothing is ever going to be better than sub during a 20s amp

[normal mist]

yo, whats up

[severe meadow]

you peep the FF monhun crossover stuff?

[normal mist]

You bet

[severe meadow]

How nasty is that Dark Knight thing

[normal mist]

It looked so good

but i wonder what it will be

[severe meadow]

weapon wise?

[normal mist]

everything really

[errant hawk]

28 days later …

[normal mist]

weapon was GS

[hearty seal]

DRK my beloved...

[severe meadow]

ye I was about to say, 100% GS

GS main so we eating good

[normal mist]

Gogmazio stuff also looks cool

LS being a scythe

[severe meadow]

LS also really fun

Will prob try it out

[normal mist]

i'm no speedrunner, so i just do everything every update // craft all the new sets // do all the challenges

[arctic pivot]

Do we still macro cold blood to kingsbane for st fate?

[main bridge]

yes

[thorn thorn]

@normal mist

@humble verge When dimmy boosts

[marsh fjord]

No way we have MHW fanboys

MH is so peak

[normal mist]

ikr

[humble verge]

2032

[thorn thorn]

2025?

[humble verge]

2843

[thorn thorn]

2025???

[humble verge]

yeah prolly when tier is over idk

[marsh fjord]

i can boost you in dimmy LFR

[thorn thorn]

are you saying you dont want that boost gold

[humble verge]

idk, do i

[thorn thorn]

do you?

[humble verge]

idk

[thorn thorn]

buyers totally wouldnt grief dimmy

[arctic venture]

!macro

[prisma monolith]

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[arctic venture]

!macros

There is any tip to bind the yelding trinket with some?

I didnt get how to better use it

[marsh fjord]

you use it with vanish

on FB

and on DS you use it on deathmark

[arctic venture]

Hummmm 🤭

Mythic plus im saying

[marsh fjord]

then with DM

[arctic venture]

Im using at moment anntena and yelding

[balmy condor]

@coral ibex

my raid roster in glorps

[haughty flicker]

Wtf

I need all of the glorps

[thorn thorn]

[coral ibex]

[pliant remnant]

[coral ibex]

our trial 2nd warlock decided to be responsible and value his time for school instead of cutting edge

how do we find these freaks

[haughty flicker]

Where are they

[wooden radish]

does heads coin work for you guys?

[haughty flicker]

Reveal them to me

[wooden radish]

wow nice glorp collection

where is glorprogue?

[coral ibex]

i want to be invited to the glorp zone

[wooden radish]

[wooden radish]

oh this is it

[thorn thorn]

Idk about whispyrs but the ones I used are from my personal emoji server

[balmy condor]

This has now been fixed, +3% dps gained

~~ Fatebound Heads is bugged and has been the entire season.~~

initial % damage doesn't work correctly on skills, only the +2% per stack works. This causes Fatebound Heads to be terrible compared to Fatebound Tails

The impact of this is around a 3% loss, but can cause bigger swings as flipping a chain of heads is just simply not good.

[jaunty sky]

[haughty flicker]

[thorn thorn]

Exciting, how did you discover this one

[jaunty sky]

New pin

[wooden radish]

Outlaws

[balmy condor]

Koji looked at the spell data and went "wait a minute"

there was a convo in internal tc

[thorn thorn]

Small indie company

Something very similar happened with aug and Sael

[wooden radish]

I reckon an amazing Whispyr wowhead article raising awareness of these bugs could get blizzard to double time fix it

[thorn thorn]

He was browsing spell data and just so happened to discover that almost all the TWW made stuff was missing ID 416

Which means it doesnt work with breath of eons

[balmy condor]

it wouldn't

[thorn thorn]

Demolock legit has like 70% of its damage not working

[wooden radish]

there were other issues with tails and coins, we were discussing a couple weeks back in tc-outlaw, so might be an investigation from then onwards

like for example tails damage comes before their buffs

[thorn thorn]

[haughty flicker]

I can't wait to see people melt down over this

[wooden radish]

the damage loss we potentially may have as fatebound could be more than we think

but its hard to say

but it sucks about the heads one

[balmy condor]

why would it be more

[wooden radish]

I'm not sure if the tails damage coming before the buff is implemented in simc yet, but i think there could be a minor -% from that once it does

I think simc currently thinks tails damage comes after the buff application

[balmy condor]

I mean sure

but simc also doesn't account for tails coins proccing seal fate

[wooden radish]

thats all i meant by that, just a combination of bugs

[humble verge]

icl

playing havoc is fun

[wooden radish]

ah ok didn't know that too

[jaunty sky]

Frost is as well

[wooden radish]

BM as well 🙂

[jaunty sky]

Def gonna be back on rogue for midnight but frost dk is so dumb in keys

The amount of times i die to aggro

Reminds me of playing back in Wrath and getting yelled at by the tank bc i pressed my buttons too early

[thorn thorn]

Jump to 20m dps in 7 globals, die to aggro

Literally unplayable

[jaunty sky]

Exactly

Yesterday i killed myself by immediately pressing 45s cds when i saw the last pack before dragon in gambit being pulled

Didnt even get a 2nd global off

[thorn thorn]

[sterile swallow]

Oh fun more bugs. Really not expecting them to fix any of these until midnight.

[thorn thorn]

I wont lie

When I get a fdk I put timelessness on the tank and hope they die to aggro problems

Cuz I hate fotm players

[jaunty sky]

Very fair

All they gotta do is wait 2 seconds

Same with devokers

'Dont send all your damage immediately when you see the mob move' challenge

Very hard tbh

Coming from rogue

[thorn thorn]

I dont typically see others devs since I play aug, most groups I play with lately are prot pal, rdruid, fdk, and either hunter or mage

[jaunty sky]

Yeah i play like 10 to 12 atm

Fucking around until new PoE league in a month

[marsh fjord]

Not a poe2 enjoyer?

[thorn thorn]

Waiting for legion remix

[jaunty sky]

I got through the story this patch, which was a lot better than last one

And i didnt play lightning arrow

But it needs SO MUCH work for me to even consider sinking time into endgame

[marsh fjord]

Game is pretty solid now but they gotta change how towers works and how juicing the maps work

if they can nail that

then its cheff kiss

[jaunty sky]

I dont like that expanding atlas thing(not a deal breaker) and the map layouts are horrible

Esp bc i just wanna be able to pick one

Like PoE1

[marsh fjord]

You can

[jaunty sky]

Ah maybe i didnt get that far idk

I did a few maps and lost interest

[marsh fjord]

Your not forced in any of them

did t16's juiced my build up tot 100 divine

did uber

and pissed off

[severe meadow]

PoE2 is just tower gaming

[marsh fjord]

Yeah they gotta fix the towers

[severe meadow]

That’s why I don’t care for it for now

[marsh fjord]

Now the meta is findign 3 towers in the same area but 9 tablets in them. juice your map and get rich

[severe meadow]

But they said next patch is giga focused on end game

So we’ll see

[jaunty sky]

I just hope they put another banger league for PoE1

Merc was great

[severe meadow]

I sunk almost 2k hours in poe1 so hopefully it gets fleshed out more

Merc was great, I wouldn’t want it to go core tho I don’t think

[balmy condor]

it can go core just not the hiring

[jaunty sky]

Im close to 5k on steam for PoE1, think with the few leagues i played on standalone its over 5k

[balmy condor]

make em randomly spawn, you pick gear or currency

gg

[severe meadow]

Yeah that’s fine

[jaunty sky]

Nah the hire part is the cool part

But also impossible to balance

Guess they could replace rogue exiles in a way

Or supplement them

[severe meadow]

Yeah because of doryanis

[jaunty sky]

Like chance to spawn infamous merc instead of exile, has 1 unique, well rolles rares and some good currency to choose from

[jaunty sky]

Not only that

OSin is insanely busted on them

[severe meadow]

The two most broken shit was doryanis and sin

[jaunty sky]

Just using them as a 2nd AG is really strong

[thorn thorn]

Lads

[severe meadow]

I put about 2 mirror investment into flicker strike

I actually had a ton of fun

[jaunty sky]

Garb on them was very nice tho, they gotta do something about the action speed shit

[severe meadow]

Gave away my double corrupt mageblood and stopped playing the league

[jaunty sky]

With petrify

[severe meadow]

[jaunty sky]

I think i had ~a mirror into viper strike

[thorn thorn]

What is your hottest take

[jaunty sky]

Also very fun

I was gonna try to get FRoSS up and running but it was too much work to research and build another char that cant do more than my current char

[humble verge]

@fallow canopy you guys have a disc instead of holy?

i was just looking back at comparing our guilds Xddd

[fallow canopy]

we have a holy and a spriest that if for any reason our holy can't make it that night plays disc

if needed

[humble verge]

lmao

goated

[fallow canopy]

very rare, has happened like only twice this season

[thorn thorn]

[humble verge]

you guys running 2 fdk, we running 2 warriors

[fallow canopy]

[humble verge]

also, you guys dont have a pala?

[fallow canopy]

sadly no

wtb autumn

[humble verge]

only good thing u guys have is having 2 dragons ig

since we only have 1

Sadge

[thorn thorn]

50g and a mcchicken

[fallow canopy]

tempting offer but I'm out of mcchicken

[thorn thorn]

Unfortunate

[humble verge]

next wednesday we gettin paid

prolly gonna be 2m+ this bi-week :3

[storm forum]

Is that for boosting?

[humble verge]

ja

legacy boosting

well

[storm forum]

Wowee

[humble verge]

also omega glory

[severe meadow]

Blue post about hotfixes (brewfest) almost got me

[thorn thorn]

Almost had me fooled

[humble verge]

you expect them to actually fix our bugs at all?

[severe meadow]

I mean not really but blizzard does stuff sometimes

Like fix brew fest

[sharp mural]

i lol'd

[jaunty sky]

Coulda left it broken, i got my hearthstone and meta achievment

[frozen glacier]

me when i return to the rogue discord after a week of playing BM hunter to see a new pin and its just another uncovered bug

[limpid trench]

Oh, a harmless bug? Hotfix in seconds. A damage-loss bug? Guess it’s invisible. Just my opinion.

[thorn thorn]

Dont worry lads they are saving the bugfixes for midnight

[sharp mural]

considering rogue is an old class and one of the least played atm, they surely think it's not important enough and they'd rather focus on popular classes

[limpid trench]

maybe by 12.25 they’ll finally have all the bugs fixed…

[thorn thorn]

Complexity of the fix also plays a role

If its too much effort to dedicate to fixing it they wont bother

[sharp mural]

would be faster to remake it completely from zero

[thorn thorn]

I wouldnt go that far

[earnest flume]

would a hero netherprism outperform myth lily on FB? or just sim? i assume it does outperform forge on DS

[thorn thorn]

If either solution takes too much dev time then they just wont do it

Especially with a new xpac coming up

[sharp mural]

At some point they gotta admit they utterly failed and must fix their shit asap.
Remake is much needed. Not only every specs of rogue are based on old af mechanics, they're also either bugged, undertuned, or it isn't fun at all.
Rogue as a whole has less usage than Warrior Fury in high M+ keys, and that says a lot considering I never cross Fury warriors in my keys

[thorn thorn]

[vernal shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/maçavras1-gif-16101498646883457546

[thorn thorn]

Fury is one of the "more popular" off meta picks

[rugged sinew]

Hello, do you guys keep tracking your energy to not get <30 to prevent thistle tea autocast?

[sharp mural]

5% of dps are fury in +15 keys

[thorn thorn]

Fury alone is almost as popular as all 3 rogue specs in 15+ keys

[sharp mural]

that was my point

[thorn thorn]

That still puts it in a good spot

Its in the middle

After warrior the popularity starts to drop off hard

[main bridge]

No you do not have to do this or think about tea at all

[sharp mural]

imagine having 3 dps specs and all three combined cannot top a 5% dps pick rate lmao

[thorn thorn]

Rogue not meta

Idk what your point is but generally the higher you go the higher the pick rate of the meta specs is

[rugged sinew]

Well if I want to tea always at last 6s of kingsbane to increase dps i need, im looking for things i can do better

[thorn thorn]

Less popular or less meta specs will naturally lose popularity

Just how it works

[limpid trench]

They’re only fixing this CD issue now? Seriously?

[thorn thorn]

But also some specs have it far worse than rogue

Evoker DPS isnt popular currently

And neither is WW

[visual sun]

brewfest bugs on top of prio wdym

[celest ruin]

[drifting cloud]

it might have been fixed for days, these posts dont go out instantly as the hotfix goes live

[sharp mural]

I might be old school, but I do believe a 3 dps spec class should have at least one doing decent results.
Having less than 5% usage all spec combined isn't just "off meta". It's a HUGE sign of something broken.

As for Evoker, yeah, they're in the same kind of trouble, sure. Worst ? I dunno, last class to be released, they look like shit and nobody wanted to play them even when they were meta. Evoker player rates always were insanely low. Even then, just because another class is going bad, doesn't mean nothing have to be done to one of them.

[thorn thorn]

Yea the thing being broken is frost dk going the entire xpac in its current state lol

Its not like its unplayably undertuned

[sharp mural]

Havoc and BM are doing insanely great aswell lmao

[thorn thorn]

All specs can put out the numbers

But nothing is going to be on the level of fdk

[sharp mural]

Outlaw can't for instance

[thorn thorn]

fair and balanced spec

[sharp mural]

I mean, we struggle battling against tank druids lmao

[thorn thorn]

Im sure it cant

Zac your spec is literally unplayable rn why are you griefing

[main bridge]

Bind shiv to tea

!shiv

[prisma monolith]

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[thorn thorn]

A havoc or fdk would prolly do more if piloted well

But that was a 20 gambit and 19 floodgate respectively, so like i said its not like it doesnt pull the numbers

[main bridge]

It’s ok I am too

Still don’t have boots or a good trinket

[sharp mural]

Not everyone is Tomelvis, it's litteraly the second rogue world. And you dunno how much luck he had on his rolls. I've seen Woxtoxic getting destroyed in keys by Elem sham and frost DK, by far

with much higher ilvl

[thorn thorn]

Yea but you are comparing broken specs to one that is normally tuned

It doesnt help your argument

FDK will shit on almost any normally tuned spec because its just profanely overpowered

[main bridge]

Yeah FDK owns. Fun to play too

I started playing one last week

[thorn thorn]

Lets do an easier spec

Sin do the numbers pretty good

[sharp mural]

you're dellu if you think outlaw rogue is normally tuned

[balmy condor]

Not everyone can smoke that many cigarettes please be more realistic

[visual sun]

need cigs to be zero

wtf lol

[thorn thorn]

You are the delulu one here

[main bridge]

Cigarettes are absolutely disgusting

[thorn thorn]

You are the one that compared FDK to a "normal" spec

But ok, maybe you are sub core

Sub also puts up the numbers

And look at that

Its only beat by fdk by a little bit

Almost as if the core of the issue is with the people playing the specs and not the specs themselves

[thorn thorn]

Very true

The class tuning for M+ in TWW is closer than it has been historically

Naturally the dungeon pool plays a big part of it too

[thorn thorn]

Also very true

Ask your magic 8 ball

It will probably be addressed eventually

Whenever that is

Probably at some point in either midnight

Either that or during or post legion remix

[sharp mural]

That's one hell of a bullshit lmao.
Even the worst LoL champ all time can be good in the hand of Faker, doesn't make this statement relevant.
Not only you're dependant on your own skill, but also on every other aspect of your key such as your mates, your procc lucks and route.
Tomelvis plays with people his league. They're all world class players average joes can't compare. They manage to pull up numbers with strats and skill despite numerous bugs.
Average joes can take FDK, BM, Fury, DH, any other class and have decent dps.

[gritty laurel]

at this point i'm starting to feel silly telling people to read the tooltips

[thorn thorn]

Why are we comparing league to world of warcraft

[sharp mural]

cuz that's the easy picture I had in mind

[thorn thorn]

Its not even close

League champions are not world of warcraft specs

[balmy condor]

Assassination rogue needs faker hands to be competitive

Incredibly difficult spec

Very deep and complex animation canceling and combos

[thorn thorn]

And I literally just gave you evidence that the specs can pump numbers

[gritty laurel]

best i can do is fake hands while i headbutt the keyboard

[sharp mural]

For sin it's different, it's just bugged

[balmy condor]

[thorn thorn]

Ok buddy

You are just a rage baiter lol

Clearly there is no further discussion worth having

I literally just gave you evidence that the rogue specs are doing fine in terms of throughput

And your response is essentially that its not feasible for everybody

Like yea of course its not

Everybody wont be doing +19s

or 20s

You gotta play really well to do those kinds of keys

And by coincidence the rogues doing those keys are playing them really well

Popularity is not the absolute defining metric for a classes performance

[sharp mural]

All I'm saying is while 50% of people will be able to pull up numbers in every other specs, on the other hand only 0,1% of outlaw will be able to pull up numbers

[lime onyx]

Bro it feels so bad progging and every 10th pull my cds are just changed by 30 seconds

[thorn thorn]

Your initial argument was specifically in high keys

The people playing outlaw in high keys

Will be playing it properly

Otherwise they wouldnt be playing outlaw

???

Like yea it makes sense outlaw is the least popular spec

Its hard as shit and annoying to play

But its not like it doesnt have output

It does fundamentally have the output to make a place

[spice spire]

Counterpoint: I hate outlaw so it’s bad

[thorn thorn]

acceptable

[drifting cloud]

counterpoint: you a qtpie

[thorn thorn]

no u

[spice spire]

I’m gonna kiss you on the lips bbgirl

[sharp mural]

my point still stands. There's a reason if it's 0.5% usage atm.

[thorn thorn]

What point bro

The reason being that not many people like playing it?

If thats it then yea you do got a point

But that doesnt mean there is an issue with it

The specs have their own audiences

[sharp mural]

You should take a look at Outlaw chan from time to time. People like Outlaw, just not in its current state

[thorn thorn]

And changing the specs to conform to certain audiences is how you lobotomize a spec and ultimately kill its initial audience

[gritty laurel]

unless you're literally getting paid to compete in RWF, picking a spec for any reason beyond "i like playing it" is brainlet activity

[thorn thorn]

true

I have met very few actual outlaw players

There is only 1 I have ever met of all the rogue players I personally know

The rest play either sin or sub

[nova kelp]

there's probably a little more analysis to be done there
generally speaking rogue itself is just unpopular, and has been for quite some time
the lean in spec allocation in an already small population does and has typically shifted mostly towards sin, even when other specs are significantly stronger overall
some will say this coincides with "outlaw" as a theme and that people just PREFER "combat" but I've always called bs on that, coz I don't think a significant proportion of players play their spec for THEME more than mechanics. If the timing was to hold true it's likely becuase people generally dislike "uptime" specs.
Sub and outlaw regardless of periodic strength have always struggled for numbers.
I'd normally put this down to iterations of poor intuitive nature. The popularity of ret since it's rework somewhat steelmans this view.

[thorn thorn]

Idk the rogue players I know just have never liked any version of outlaw

They have always stuck with either sub or sin or both

[severe meadow]

yeah fuck outlaw, respectfully (disrespectfully)

[thorn thorn]

I have heard many reasons, but the most common reason is that it "isnt exciting" since you just mash buttons on cd

Its excitement in a different way

[sharp mural]

I 100% agree to this.
Tbf I play Outlaw rogue cuz it has high apm gameplay, could be Hannah Montana theme for all I care as long as it has high apm mechanics

[thorn thorn]

The class is just unpopular

And its not exclusively because of throughput limitations

People just dont wanna play rogue

wcyd

[nova kelp]

there was a time that "combat" was really popular, but it was also when it wasn't so tied to "constant uptime"

GENERALLY speaking though if you're looking at the wow community rather than the ROGUE community... Rogue is just unpopular
people generally steer clear of outlaw and sub save for very tangential and casual engagement - because they're MORE unpopular

[silent pond]

on soul hunters mythic whos the best to target?

dumb question i know

[nova kelp]

the tank one

the one on the right

[thorn thorn]

Even in S1 when sin was considered "meta" it still didnt quite have major popularity numbers

[nova kelp]

dark sorrow?

[silent pond]

kk

[thorn thorn]

People just dont wanna be a rogue

[nova kelp]

idk what her name is

[thorn thorn]

wcyd

[nova kelp]

you know the one

[silent pond]

yeah just trying to get my dots on all at start

thx

[thorn thorn]

I would actually be content if hunter sucked ass

Maybe I wont see them everywhere

Ret too

[nova kelp]

nooooooooooooooooo

you can't nerf ret

then they actually just quit the game

and discord

[thorn thorn]

I see no downside to this

[nova kelp]

even if they're fine

[thorn thorn]

You are supposed to convince me this is a bad idea

Not give me reason to think its a good idea

[nova kelp]

oh sorry, try this
more ret (like 70% of casual players) means a lot more overall playerbase
this means more money for blizz to not spend on QA
but it also means more money for blizz to make cool xmog

i like cool xmog

[thorn thorn]

[balmy condor]

A necessary sacrifice to rid the world of ret paladins

[thorn thorn]

Im still seeing no downside to this

[visual sun]

hey, i have a few ret pally friends and now im questinong myself why

[thorn thorn]

All 3 ret pallys i know happen to be terrible people

Coincidence?

[silent pond]

this felt good for mythic im usually ass XD

[amber brook]

Here I am happy to get 22 heads

thank you for the pin

[thorn thorn]

True you did play ass rogue on that boss

[balmy condor]

Well yeah I’d hope you’re ass, that’s the spec

[silent pond]

yikes

[visual sun]

we are mostly ass here

[thorn thorn]

I was faster whispyr

[balmy condor]

Yeah well

Mobile debuff

[thorn thorn]

Unlucky

[silent pond]

walked into that one

[thorn thorn]

Should have shadowstepped instead

[silent pond]

gonna deathmark myself

[thorn thorn]

@nova kelp are you the reason for this emoji

[spice spire]

Dog WHAT

[balmy condor]

He asked are you the reason for this emoji

[spice spire]

Oh ty for clarifying king

[balmy condor]

Np

[spice spire]

Since there’s been a new pin I assume the bugs have been fixed

And there’s just a new bug

Surely

Teehee

[balmy condor]

Yeah just don’t open

All of them are fixed just close your eyes

[drifting cloud]

its only a bug if you miss your coinflips

[spice spire]

Just flip better

Good point ryler!!

[nova kelp]

fuck, I hope I was

I mean look at 21 and 22
obviously this is empirical proof that a hunter buff is necessary

also sin rogue needs a nerf clearly

fdk is fine, those are just really good players

I can tell

[thorn thorn]

Probably

Dont you me

We both know you are guilty

[main bridge]

[thorn thorn]

[severe meadow]

New pin.. surely..

[thorn thorn]

We got a new pin

[gilded oasis]

guys wake up! new sin bug just dropped!

[main bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-my-god-vince-mcmahon-mr-mcmahon-omg-falling-gif-11831680554643426869

[halcyon saddle]

love our defensives being tied to energy

[kindred oriole]

We can't ASK about bug fixes, but can we COMPLAIN about bugs no being fixed? (only joking)

[balmy condor]

I don’t remember how much energy cloak and evasion cost

[coral ibex]

my raid comp

finally got home and could add the emotes to my guild server

[gilded oasis]

198.2

[balmy condor]

Very based

3 warriors is crazy though

[coral ibex]

it was even worse last season

our comp on stix was legit like 9 melee

yep 9

[balmy condor]

3 bm hunters and 9 melee

Raid comp of despair and agony

[halcyon saddle]

feint is like 25 it is minimal i'm just super titled tonight in raid

[severe meadow]

We have 2 surv hunters on our team

Soul hunters is miserable

[drifting cloud]

luckily its a 5 heal fight so you just put all the ranged in and then whatever is left for melee!

[severe meadow]

We have more melee than ranged

[nova kelp]

I'm sorry

we have this issue a lot too

[severe meadow]

Actually I think we held one of our surv hunters at gun point (asked nicely) and they swapped to BM for SH

[nova kelp]

honestly, if a hunter hard line refuses to play either of the ranged specs it's kinda a doomer situation

I understand hard railing a spec, but man

that's a roughy

[oak tangle]

i think i've found the exact image that bliz used to determine who to buff

we just have to hit the 82nd percentile

for buffs

[rotund oak]

a community enslaved to fotm rolling

ppl without personality

had the same issue with my ex

[somber sparrow]

would you still double mana oil for M+ or would one be bubbling wax at all

[rotund oak]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[rotund oak]

dont put a space between them

[halcyon saddle]

Ty

[main bridge]

do people like it?

[rotund oak]

you are welcome friend

[halcyon saddle]

!energy

[prisma monolith]

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. As a burst spec our damage is mainly loaded into Deathmark/Shiv and massive Envenoms through stacking multiple nature damage buffs such as Lingering Darkness, Shiv, Darkest Night, Amplifying Poison, and more. This comes with the natural downside of our damage suffering outside of these windows, in part due to the designed lack of energy slowing us down.

Because of this, there is only one minor (0.3%) min-max with energy, which is pooling 3-4 seconds into an upcoming Kingsbane. Ideally this would put you at around 50-60% energy before you enter your Kingsbane, which is more than enough energy alongside thistle tea. Outside of that, spam Envenom and just accept that you will run out of energy. There is nothing you can do to not run out of energy. Playing around Envenom uptime also is not relevant anymore, as Twist the knife allows for two stacks at a time, which reduces wasted uptime dramatically. Without twist the knife, wasting uptime is unavoidable.

[rotund oak]

thats a surprise

[earnest remnant]

They are a breed of their own

[main bridge]

yeah sin has issues but at least we are not outlaw

[earnest remnant]

Freaks of Nature really

[rotund oak]

https://tenor.com/view/foreign-stance-racoon-racoon-blanket-racoon-blanket-cute-racoon-blanket-hide-gif-22051812

[oak tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/racoon-gif-27192372

[hot pasture]

1 more bug i guess they wont fix anything because of midnight

nice

[oak tangle]

it's not a new bug

shows you how much impact it really has

you didnt notice it until it's pointed out

[vale fox]

fellas

can we cloak the hunt?

from DH boss?

[drifting cloud]

yes

[vale fox]

ok thanks

[ebon steppe]

Fuck blz