assassination

[marsh fjord]

Assa one trick

I dont play anything else

[jaunty sky]

Really easy, insane numbers, only thing im missing is better feedback on button presses

[jaunty sky]

inb4 i join as assa one trick and they fuck it up with midnight release

It doesnt stealth and thats pretty sad

[marsh fjord]

hahahah would be funny

[main bridge]

stealth is just annoying

[jaunty sky]

Im still traumatized from starting to play in legion, assa feeling really good and then BfA drops and it feels like garbage

[marsh fjord]

Yeah but that can happen to every class.

[humble verge]

not mage

[jaunty sky]

Or pala

Or one of 3 hunter specs

[marsh fjord]

Assa need to be really really shit for me to not play it.

[jaunty sky]

I mean with current hero talent balance yeah

[marsh fjord]

and if that would be the case i can just go back to my unholy DK

was my main before this

[jaunty sky]

I mean i guess i can put both frost and assa down in a few weeks if i start applying

[marsh fjord]

The most annoying part about these mythic guilds and if you want to get to better WR you gotta hop. if you dont have mythic exp you really need to start in a guild that can't get CE yet. so your kill like half of mythic and then you can join a guild that mabye not gets CE or barely do. and once you have CE expierence then it gets a bit easier.

[jaunty sky]

Yeah i assume its gonna be like getting a job

Which i dont wanna have to do again for a WHILE cause that shit sucked

[marsh fjord]

Yeah. every guiild will doubt you if you dont have the relevant expierence

[jaunty sky]

I think just having an actual set roster of raiders will already be a huge difference

[marsh fjord]

oh yeah never join a guild that is full of trials

thats big red flag

[humble verge]

it really depends

[marsh fjord]

If you ever need to find a guild send me a DM wobble we can look through some together.

[humble verge]

we have a bunch of trials

but they are like bonafide raiders tbh

[marsh fjord]

yeah but bunch or full is very different uber. if the guild has like 15 trials

thats mega red flag

[humble verge]

😭

[marsh fjord]

Guys what are we gonna play first

Doom dark ages or space marine 2.

[jaunty sky]

Will do(if i remember when i actually start looking)
I will def try to have a counter questionnaire for things like current roster size, trial conditions, raid prep expectations etc if theyre not listed

Unless i dont even apply to those guilds

[marsh fjord]

Honestly for the qeustions what i did was.

to chat GPT. and type in

What are typicall qeustions i can ask to a cutting edge raiding guild in world of warcraft

and just pick a few

[jaunty sky]

Yeah or that

[marsh fjord]

[jaunty sky]

Cant wait to send my AI generated application to their AI application review bot

[marsh fjord]

LOL

[jaunty sky]

Which might be common practice irl soon

[marsh fjord]

Some people say: gaming doesnt benefit anything to your real life

We say excuse me i had to fill out a form of 50 applications for a raiding guild

[jaunty sky]

Yeah sent us an applications with this information but then also put all the information in that application into this incredibly annoying to use form we made thank you we will ignore it anyways

[marsh fjord]

Those applications are really annoying, i rather just find a guild who i can contact on discord

And they say like, okey send over your logs and qeustions you have

[jaunty sky]

Yee i remember recruiting for the blind prog stuff in FF
Literally just small self introduction(name you want us to use, age, timezone/country, voice chat y/n), what class, any previous experience, are you sure you understand what blind prog means

[main bridge]

blind prog is way more fun

it's so cringe to have a Liquid WA just telling you every move

[haughty flicker]

the last question definitely the most important lmfao

so many people join blind prog groups and complain about people not knowing the fight its actually insane

[jaunty sky]

Oh i think i also had something along the lines of 'does this raidplan make sense to you and can you learn fights with explanations based on them'

[jaunty sky]

Thats why i made a static for it

blind prog group
zone in
fight macro

Cool

[harsh anchor]

@balmy condor has anyone ever told you, you give the same energy as Porter Robinson’s Worlds album. It came on and for some reason I drew similarities between you and Porter. Even his Virtual Self alias.

[severe meadow]

Are you stroking his shit or what

[severe sparrow]

dumb q time does plexus parry

[humble verge]

yes

yes he does

he has parried a bunch of my envenoms

[severe sparrow]

lovely

[humble verge]

and it pisses me off

😭

if you like

just stand on the side of him it should be fine ig

[severe sparrow]

yeah ive been making it work for n/h

but figured i should give a fuck for mythic

or rather like

the wall behind me is spooky

[balmy condor]

I have actually heard that yes

[coral ibex]

[visual sun]

https://tenor.com/view/shelter-anime-short-film-running-field-gif-17878398

[humble verge]

whar

[marsh fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/mood-dance-russiankiddance-club-dancevibe-gif-21421102

[coral ibex]

surely tonight

[marsh fjord]

Does the inky pot works for you?

[coral ibex]

[marsh fjord]

like does it make it better?

[coral ibex]

idk ive just progged the whole time on inky black so i dont want to change

[humble verge]

honestly

new animations helped a lot

[marsh fjord]

Will see the difference

wednesday

[marsh fjord]

@coral ibex What illusions are you using on your weapon

[coral ibex]

power torrent

[severe meadow]

yippie I finally stopped being lazy and got all 12s done xd

i'll do 3k in like 4 months

[balmy condor]

based and same

[unborn rain]

blue parsed mythic loomi kill shower me in praise chat

[waxen oyster]

i have no motivation to do 12s

key trinkets suck this season anyway

only upside of 12s is no xal affix

[subtle oyster]

The best upside

[severe meadow]

All I needed was Priory so I just pugged it rq

[humble verge]

hitting 3k is just some extra 13s tho? or am i wrong

[severe meadow]

yeah

Im like uh

2957 I think

with no 13s

[humble verge]

yeah so like

3 13s

[subtle oyster]

Roundabout

[humble verge]

maybe 4

[subtle oyster]

Or throw in an easy 14 or something

[coral ibex]

gambit is pretty free ngl

[severe meadow]

I figured eco-dome would be the free one

[subtle oyster]

Both are free imo

[severe meadow]

pugs on dragon gotta be funny

[subtle oyster]

Depends which one you like more I'd say.

[severe meadow]

neither, im a m+ hater

Gambit kinda fun tho

funny pirate dragon

[subtle oyster]

Dragon so far has been fine. At least in my keys. People surprisingly don't run around as much.

[red sonnet]

rogues are no fixes ×
all bugs returned √

[subtle oyster]

Surely I'll get away with playing assa on dimensius as well after having done so on saladbar.

[severe meadow]

assa fine on dimmy

unless you mean mythic then I have no idea

[subtle oyster]

Ye mythic

[severe meadow]

prob still fine

[subtle oyster]

We tried me going assa for saladbar tonight instead of sub. It worked as intended.

[severe meadow]

our group is kinda average CE obtainers, we'll prob wall on salad bar for a minute

but we start him tomorrow

[coral ibex]

im only on sub for the prog kill

ill go assa for reclear

[subtle oyster]

Ye went sub for all the saladbar progress except for tonight/kill.

I mean, it worked.

[severe meadow]

we get 3% from rep tomorrow, yeah?

[coral ibex]

did you do more damage as assa or sub

[subtle oyster]

Assa

[coral ibex]

was your p3 very long?

[subtle oyster]

7:52 kill

Did it for the overall boss dmg.

[coral ibex]

we always do this man

best pull first and then regress for 3 hrs

[subtle oyster]

Sounds like every progress in a nutshell kek

[blazing kayak]

hey rq, is this what people play in keys now?

or can someone link the correct build i should play in keys

[red sonnet]

there's a rumour that casualaddict connected to the designer asking for the assa's bug fix schedule

[coral ibex]

[red sonnet]

and the designer said no planning

is that true?

[coral ibex]

why dont you go ask him

there's no pin here

so there's no public info about anything

making shit up does go hard as fuck tho

props to rumor mills

[runic hinge]

Ping casual and ask

[tawdry halo]

Rumour mills doing the honest work so we don't have to

[earnest remnant]

[blazing kayak]

can someone link me the sin rogue key talents or tell me if they one in the screenshot is correct :^)

[coral ibex]

wowhead.com

[tawdry halo]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[tawdry halo]

head to the talents page for all your talent needs

[subtle oyster]

We did progress this boss like fucking horseshit incarnate though.

[coral ibex]

like we've just been not doing ghosts now

for 1 hour

[subtle oyster]

How many pulls?

[coral ibex]

184

[drifting cloud]

ping stealthi he knows stuff

[subtle oyster]

Sounds familiar

[earnest remnant]

[drifting cloud]

shit he saw my msg

!vanish

[prisma monolith]

Vanish->Ambush during cooldowns with Darkest Night up has two main benefits:

• Getting more mark uptime by reapplying when it's down
• Consuming Darkest Night then puts you from 3 stacks of the mark down to 2 since the mark is already applied

As of September 13th with the Echoing Reprimand Fix, that second part is broken. Blizzard inadvertantly added a bug where you cannot consume mark stacks while darkest night is active. This will hopefully get resolved quickly as it is quite impactful. Until that time, you might want to consider taking improved garrote in your single target build (instead of 1 point of vicious venoms, or instead of improved poison). You do not have to do this, and if you would like to continue to play without improved garrote, you would simply hold onto your vanish in case you drop the mark. Once the bug is fixed you would go back to vanish->ambush.

[solar wyvern]

Damn u triggered a year old bot

[marsh fjord]

Dont lie i saw you vanishing with DN up

[solar wyvern]

If my shiv is up i may consider it.

Honestly should get a cancel aura macro already but i am far too lazy

[balmy condor]

cancelaura for what

[marsh fjord]

cancel aura these nuts

I t1 subbed to whispyr and he didnt even thank me

https://tenor.com/view/dog-crying-meme-doggo-crys-megan-soo-crying-dog-gif-5276199764143986284

[main bridge]

Unreal

[balmy condor]

the fame went to my head

sold out on my day 1's fr

[marsh fjord]

HAHAHAHA

fr fr

[balmy condor]

I honestly didn't see I'm sorry

[marsh fjord]

hahaha i know im just messing with you

[oak tangle]

this might seem like a dumb question

but @balmy condor who are you talking to on stream

[main bridge]

it's me

[balmy condor]

wdym who am I talking to

[oak tangle]

you were answering q's

but not from twitch

[balmy condor]

like today?

[oak tangle]

just now

[balmy condor]

[oak tangle]

like there was no messages in the chat

[balmy condor]

there was plenty

[oak tangle]

but you were answering stuff about inky black etc

[balmy condor]

look at all these lovely people

[oak tangle]

hmm weird

i saw like one or 2 of maromo's messages

[bronze pike]

talked to deez nuts whisper

[balmy condor]

-----*..............................0/

fucking

cat

stop it

[oak tangle]

i was gonna say how the individual soak things are so easy to see

idk how people are complaining

[balmy condor]

Yeh idk

We all have our own little visual issues I guess

[oak tangle]

they may need to get tested for undiagnosed colorblindness

do you ever get more than 3?

[coral ibex]

doomge

[balmy condor]

No

[coral ibex]

another week 6/8

[balmy condor]

It’s just the 3

[coral ibex]

[oak tangle]

oh that's piss easy then

[coral ibex]

i can't even go assa for nk because the platforms just dont die if i dont go sub

[oak tangle]

i remember my first time mythic raiding, we had to do the 5 of jadefire masters

and even then that wasn't that hard

[coral ibex]

this just can't be right

my raid is sending cds before the amp during lust

[fallow canopy]

our bm was cooking his shit there

did like 32m

[coral ibex]

yea we had a pull like that

the first of the night

[jade abyss]

Dawnbreaker secon boss your only cast ct when adds spawn or you rupture some aswell?

[marsh fjord]

Rupture 1 for snipe

[jade abyss]

Ty

[bleak spoke]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[glacial stump]

Hi guys, just come back after a bit of a break since S1. I remember my envenoms dropping off in S1 and I still seem to have it now, I can’t remember how to work round it ?

[oak tangle]

not sure what you mean

we don't exactly play around envenom uptime anymore, that tier set is gone

[glacial stump]

I still wanna maintain it tho ? I might be wrong but I was on loomithar and my envenoms were just dropping

[oak tangle]

they do that

[glacial stump]

They’re supposed to disappear with 8 seconds left ?

[oak tangle]

no

[waxen oyster]

maybe the 2 stack was

[oak tangle]

i think i know what you're talking about now, it's to do with applying a lower duration envenom when you have 2 on the target

[glacial stump]

I had a clip that I will post once I’m at my PC. It’s the only time I’ve seen it happen on loomithar

So it’s probs a WA thing

[oak tangle]

it's not

if you apply a lower cp envenom when you have 2 env on target it will change both env to be the lower timer

[glacial stump]

Ahhhhh

[waxen oyster]

Oh yeah that bug

env uptime is so high i forgot

94% you tend to forget

[glacial stump]

I had it like 4 envenoms in a row, don’t think I was casting low combo ones. Give me 15 mins and I’ll post the clip

[oak tangle]

not 100% what causes it, but i can replicated it with the lower cp env

[balmy condor]

can technically also trigger from supercharged envenoms

[waxen oyster]

blizz buff ds

i wanna see giant envs on my screen again

[glacial stump]

I’m probs being an idiot tho

[balmy condor]

basically if you have 2 stacks of the envenom buff

and your next envenom

has less duration than the already existing envenom

it clips both of the stacks

so like imagine you get lucky and after your shiv, you get 2 supercharged 7cp envenoms

that's 10cp, so 10 seconds of envenom

[waxen oyster]

wont it barely happen as fb

unless you sending shit envs

[balmy condor]

so your stacks might be like 7s/10s baseline, 9/12 with the bonus duration on ttk

so your bottom stack is 9s, if your next envenom would be baseline lower than that duration, both stacks snap to that new duration

[balmy condor]

correct

it's difficult to pull off on fb

supercharger makes it very obvious

but typically it's whatever

impact wise that shit doesn't do anything for dps either

[oak tangle]

to be fair at least, for the most part you wont care about clipping inside cd's anyway which is where it's liekly to happen

can anyone help me optimise for myth plexus, i need to think if it's better to send the solo kb before boss yeets away so a dm kb is ready earlier, or hold the solo kb till i can hit 100%

[balmy condor]

you yeet it

[oak tangle]

pog, what i've been doing, my raid team took into enrage to kill it :/

[balmy condor]

that would be the bigger issue

[oak tangle]

still managed a 54

in a 8:04 fight

[balmy condor]

8 min for that is insane

[oak tangle]

i was having to hold my dm for shields

at that point coulda played DS

[glacial stump]

This is the clip. I know i swap to the add so it drops off from a low combo application but after that I'm sending big ol envenoms. FYI i know im probs playing wrong i just came back

[oak tangle]

nice name lol

[waxen oyster]

swapping to add

yeah playing wrong fs

[glacial stump]

Pls dont judge I just came back xD

I was just curious as to why my full combo point envenom dropped at the 15s mark

[balmy condor]

ye

just don't do that

[glacial stump]

Gotcha

Not swapping would have saved all this

[oak tangle]

i tihnk it may be partly weak aura bs too

[balmy condor]

also true

[glacial stump]

Probably that too

[oak tangle]

it shouldn't just chop it to 0

[balmy condor]

just realized it's not tracking the second stack

[oak tangle]

ye

[glacial stump]

yk thats probably why its not working

[waxen oyster]

i track the stacks

but i also dont pay attention

[oak tangle]

me an LE had a weak aura'ing session so i could rip her weak aura into mine

[glacial stump]

Im used to refreshing it during the end period thing

[marsh fjord]

Do you know what i noticed, you guys didnt even had to swap to the adds. boss was 51% lol

[glacial stump]

guessing my your guys feedback i dont need to fukc with that anymore

[balmy condor]

correct

the only time you ever care about the duration of envenom even existing

[glacial stump]

I'll watch your guide later

[balmy condor]

is in order to envenom before a kingsbane

[glacial stump]

always fixes things

[balmy condor]

cause you wanna envenom -> cds

in order to stack your kingsbane faster

but that's not even a duration thing, that's just "envenom before cooldowns"

[glacial stump]

cool

gotcha

[balmy condor]

outside of that, you just full spam

[glacial stump]

!WA

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[glacial stump]

time to fix my janky wa

I will come back stronger i promise

would the 2nd stack just be the twist the knife talent ID ?

nvm got it

[marsh fjord]

Honestly you dont really have to track to the stacks i know people do. but its not needed

You just need to env before KB

and thats it

[glacial stump]

Just habit of it being there

[blissful monolith]

like that ui what class wa pack do you use?

[glacial stump]

It’s just luxthos one

Edited to look life afenars one but he doesn’t update his stuff anymore

[lavish wing]

how do u have 3 priests in the grp, is it possible to learn this power

[glacial stump]

It’s just a pug

I was blessed and carried to some spicy loot

[old obsidian]

only +10 is chill

[balmy condor]

True

[lavish wing]

wut, im resi 13 with pugs, pugs are cool 😄

[balmy condor]

Blink twice if you’re in danger

[lyric vale]

am can i send 2 log to check what ive done diffrently?" "

[lavish wing]

im not a mage wut

[worldly bridge]

hey, on fract MM do u wanna hold kingsbane until u're certain u didnt get assigned to a break wall or do u send anyway ? i've tried both, it always feel like a big L

either u desync or delay a lot given how short are our CDs now, or u miss half the KB ramp

[lavish wing]

u can shadowstep the wall hit

[worldly bridge]

well no i need to get bumped into the wall to break it. Unless u mean to get back to melee which is a big no in my raid cuz ranged arent spreading enough in the back 💀

[lavish wing]

i was told it doesnt matter, it will break anyway

havent tried it myself

only had shadowstepping wall itself

[oak tangle]

if you're really worried just hold

if you dont miss a cast it doesn't mean much

[lavish wing]

parse > mechanics

[oak tangle]

depending on your kill time, you can have no room to hold cds, or you can have 1:30 to hold cd's

[balmy condor]

Sure but I won’t have much time to look in the next couple days

Big Diablo season launch lots of work

[balmy condor]

You can step it, it’ll break

Did I say something weird

Why we reacting like that

[humble umbra]

Diablo

[balmy condor]

Yes?

that's my job

should I just not do my job

or what

[worldly bridge]

nah bro

take care of our parses first

[balmy condor]

true mb

[humble umbra]

It was a reaction towards Diablo in general not your job or work, didn't mean to upset you so I will remove the reaction if it helps

[visual sun]

Was there any news abt the cartel chip system in turbo boost? Need the boss kill like s2 or will it be like DF. Feel so unlucky not seeing antenna or prism

[balmy condor]

all g just confused why me saying I have lots of work got that

nothing upset

[balmy condor]

apparently in china or something they said you need the mythic kills but I don't think there's been anything official about it

[oak tangle]

what do you do for diablo?

[balmy condor]

I'm the news lead for wowhead

[oak tangle]

ohh, since when, that's huge

[red sonnet]

great

Rumour: yeluo said 'casualaddict spoke to the designers about the bugs of assa, and designers replied 'no schedule'.'

it that true?

[oak tangle]

i have a feeling, as per the pins, that whispyr and this entire discord is not holding information from us, and just maybe, that it may appear in the pins

[red schooner]

The bugs aren't that big of a deal apart from the one where the 4pc just, doesn't work sometimes

Just relax, its fine. Bleed build still does giga aoe

[brittle cloud]

The caustic one is.

[oak tangle]

all your constant questions serve to do is to anger people tbh

[red schooner]

Its like 5℅ or something overall and we still blast

[oak tangle]

i don't think it's even that much

[brittle cloud]

Maybe some tuning is in order then.

[red sonnet]

tuning...

[brittle cloud]

Buffs

[red sonnet]

+x% wont solve problems

[red schooner]

What problems

What bug is causing you this much grief

Explain.

[oak tangle]

increasing our damage, wont increase our damage.......

[red sonnet]

LFG peer rejections

[red schooner]

You're not a real person

You're not.

You can't be

[red sonnet]

3300+points rejected by +10~+12 whole day

[golden loom]

give rogue a 15% aura buff and you will see a rogue in every group

[oak tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/apparently-its-a-big-deal-big-deal-big-deal-apparently-it-is-a-big-deal-gif-26730751

[red schooner]

Welcome to pugging m+

That's normal

Bug fixes won't alter that

[lusty kraken]

I doubt they will even touch rogue in the next tuning post

[red sonnet]

i will bet 100K gold

[crude wigeon]

They will it will be just pvp tuning

[red sonnet]

NO FIX

[golden loom]

I woke up and was very confused today until I looked a bit closer

[crude wigeon]

[oak tangle]

man probs applying to groups as the last member with no lust as a rogue. "why am i not being invited"

[lusty kraken]

ofc not

only positive bugs have priority

[red sonnet]

only positive bugs have priority

true true true

[red schooner]

What will people do when they can't blame the bugs for their bad performance

[oak tangle]

make up bugs

[lyric vale]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/9K34mGyxT6chnFr7?fight=41&type=damage-done
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/P7mWGh4Q29HywKpf?fight=2&type=damage-done
fight time is same i did the same shit

[oak tangle]

I SWEAR MY ENVENOM DOESN'T GO OFF

[lusty kraken]

yeah man just keep playing a half-assed spec

[lyric vale]

but one is 99 and other one is 81

[red schooner]

The bugs aren't that big, not like it breaks the spec. We do slightly less aoe on a build that does giga aoe. Neat.

[red sonnet]

i have to say: this could never happen in CN game companies, like buff FrDK since DK had 2 seasons core place.

[lusty kraken]

you do less funnel damage on a spec that does dogshit ST in m+

[red schooner]

Its 5℅ less overall and we still blast.

Like I dunno

[red sonnet]

if any CN game company's employee did that, he will be fired directly

[lusty kraken]

ok man, keep padding and be happy

[red schooner]

Yeah sure bud.

[lusty kraken]

I play sub in m+ anyway

[golden loom]

hmmm

[lyric vale]

ahh

so how can i get that more often

i mean i should be extra lucky?

[golden loom]

flip better

[lyric vale]

Like what

oh man

i mean im fliping every +5

[golden loom]

you also did 70m more damage with kingsbane in the first log

[lyric vale]

should i stop fliping when im on like 24 stack somthing

[red sonnet]

in chinese meme, flip coin ~= throwing coin = sa'bi = idiot = blizz designers

[golden loom]

just crit harder

[golden loom]

no

[lyric vale]

afk'm wknagekn

[golden loom]

wait

you had 1 more KB cast in the first log

[lyric vale]

i got the bug

i think'

[oak tangle]

just gonna say, if you keep bashign bliz devs, you will likely get discord banned

[clever sparrow]

i find out saving kb when you get the bug is a better way

so i deleted my KB from weakaura

-_- now im tracking it with CB

[lusty kraken]

sometimes the bug is beneficial, for example on the first boss in mythic

[clever sparrow]

doesnt matter

you always have time

for +60% of your kb

[indigo sphinx]

This is so sad and so real

[clever sparrow]

and when its full chraged you dont even have to attack the boss anymore

[lusty kraken]

pretty sure normally you wouldn't be able to stay on the boss the entire duration

[clever sparrow]

you dont need that?

[lusty kraken]

that's a good point

[clever sparrow]

it only stacks 50 times

[red schooner]

Send it, get your CB envrnoms back and you're chilling

[clever sparrow]

it will ruin your next DM window

you go shiv dm kb and boom your cb still cooldown

RIP DPS

[lusty kraken]

if only our dear devs would actually bother fixing the bug

[clever sparrow]

they dont give a fk about us

[red schooner]

No, what I meant was send it at 45, send your cold blood envenoms and it works fine

[clever sparrow]

THEY LOVE PALADIN AND BOOMKIN

[red schooner]

No desync

[lusty kraken]

lol boomie

[clever sparrow]

ah yeah

maybe this week i can fix my logs xd

[red schooner]

Latter half is stacked and ticking whilst you're running back

[red sonnet]

i'll never forget

[visual sun]

Any bugs to guarantee 20x straight fatevibes coin

[red schooner]

Ritual sacrifice before pull

Good luck guaranteed.

[normal kindle]

WHy rogue dps on single target is shit with the M+ build - Fick Fuck

[red schooner]

Because we do crazy aoe

And it balances out

[normal kindle]

Well a BM hunter do better in AOE and MUCH BETTER in Single - my 2 cents Same for DK Frost

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-really-stressed-mad-angry-gif-16109475

[static glacier]

depends on pull size, pack ttk

but yeah generally these specs are stronger in higher keys

[muted fractal]

Which neck is best to craft?

[static glacier]

earthen craftsmanship

[main bobcat]

earthen craftsmanship

[grim jay]

Well you just took two specs that are overperforming

[red schooner]

I gave up on the argument, it isn't worth it.

Just, yeah.

[static glacier]

get ratio'd bozo

[red schooner]

Get counter ratio'd, dork

[main bobcat]

Earthen craftsmanship

[west crown]

Am I cooked if I dreamed we got a bug fix?

[severe meadow]

Earthen craftsmanship

[static glacier]

@severe meadow @main bobcat
Earthen craftsmanship

[hearty seal]

week 5 of no good news pins about to end, I think

[severe meadow]

What insider information are you holding

[hearty seal]

the calendar

we've been aware of the bugs for at least five weeks by now, no?

[pliant remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/bookio-gif-13932157847762104386

[severe meadow]

I mean yeah

Is 5 weeks the cut off for blizzard

All hands on deck

FIX ROGUE BEFORE 6 WEEKS, QUICKLY

[hidden crystal]

‘We’ve let them stew a bit boys. Fix ‘em’

[normal mist]

Inb4 they actually fix stuff but bug other stuff so the first nerfed/bugged version was better than the second one

[pliant remnant]

Need to make another fuckin'

couch or something

for housing

[hidden crystal]

I love the optimism tho

[pliant remnant]

Rogues can wait another 5 weeks

[lusty kraken]

I think the earliest fixes would come in 11.2.5...

assuming they bother

[grim jay]

Tierset stuff can be sat out and the other stuff isnt noticeable in a bad way for like 99% of the people

So they probably just cba at this point

With the other things they are cooking

[normal mist]

Real

Also hello davyn

How to doing lately

[severe meadow]

I could honestly see them doing something with rogue soon

Aura buff

[grim jay]

Hello friend, im doing good except for some mild inconveniences like the 7.5k car repair bill. how is it going for you? Everything good with Baby Royal?

[grim jay]

Doubt

[severe meadow]

Would be funny tho

[hearty seal]

gonna go on for week 6 and even 7, I'd wager
week 8 starts with 11.2.5 tho, if there's anything it'll be then or never

[normal mist]

That's... A new car

[grim jay]

Nah not for me, its 6yo but thats still 45k

[normal mist]

(or a second hand one)

[burnt star]

Cause thats all they can do to rogue. They cant adjust anything without unintentionnaly messing up other thing

[normal mist]

Hope everything can be solved eventually. I also lost my car a few months ago

[severe meadow]

They did throw buffs at a few abilities in s2 I think? I can’t remember now but

Was random and unexpected

[hearty seal]

still flat buffs

[severe meadow]

We also got an aura buff

I mean honestly they’ll prob break something else while trying to fix us, so

[grim jay]

They said its 100% the issue and fixed after that, so I just put my trust in them ig. Losing your car is pretty bad, especially if you really like it

[burnt star]

Sub st bad.. mmm. Let see.. ya were fucked.. buffing up st means buffing up aoe! Gg

Assa bugged... mmm. Aura buff. We cant fix the bug without caustic gaining 8%

We will see rogue rework on the midnight stream! Just u wait!

[hearty seal]

tbh the stream is in a week, so maybe it'll be the good news pin instead of bugfixes lmao

[grim jay]

Buffing sub st doesnt automatically buff its aoe, its cleave at most

Fixing the bug doesnt necessarily have anything to do with what they fixed previously either

[severe meadow]

Housing pin pog

[grim jay]

Best simming rogue chair

[severe meadow]

[hearty seal]

rogue-themed target dummy

[severe meadow]

Rogue removed from game

[hearty seal]

to prevent house burglaries

[jaunty sky]

Rogue gets the ret treatment and gets reduced to a 3 button builder spender playstyle

[hearty seal]

so like
sub but without CDs?

just backstab, eviscerate, sectech and shadow dance for a raw +100% damage every 30 seconds?

[jaunty sky]

Yeah

Exactly

[hearty seal]

ngl I think we ARE going to see something in that direction for Outlaw

due to them singling it out as a WA user

[grim jay]

#makecombatgreatagain #deleteoutlul #makeitaduelist

[wanton spear]

outlaw tank spec midnight

[jaunty sky]

I mean outlaw has at least 2 big problems: ~20% haste requirement and no actual damage profile identity

Like they got BF but now all rogues have it in soke way

[normal mist]

It was an Opel Vectra from 98(?) and I really liked the car. But the engine started having oil problems and eventually died

[jaunty sky]

Better BF versions than outlaw actually

[normal mist]

Other than that my little girl royal junior is doing well

[hearty seal]

isn't the Outlaw identity "I actually have no burst, all damage is just sustained damage, and anything I "burst" with has like a 30 second CD at best"

[jaunty sky]

Yeah but if its all burst theres no burst

Like you get heavily rewarded for pkaying well

But the onky ppl who play it are good at it

[grim jay]

The identity is literally the flat profile with some cleave and its not even that bad

[tired bloom]

I think we are going to see simplifying on most classes. They specifically talked about reducing the need for WA, reducing the number of keybinds required, also the number of CD abilities. All things point to it. I looked at a guide the other day for assa rogue in wotlk, it was basically 4 buttons, 5 if the group needs expose armor

[hearty seal]

yeah Outlaw is either people who can play it well or it's trash

[grim jay]

Dang Opel, my grandpa really liked his aswell. I've always had Audis

[grim jay]

Thats the most important thing together with your and your wifes health. Always wishing the best for the three of you fam

[jaunty sky]

You think its better than the two other ogue specs tho? Like specifically the cleave implementation

[hearty seal]

honestly I haven't played a class that would need reducing the actual button count

[normal mist]

Thanks homie, 6 weeks to go :3

[grim jay]

I hate outlaw with passion. Objectively how good it is is just tuning. Bladeflurry should be better than caustic, nimble flurry is a shared theme for both outlaw and sub

[tired bloom]

I have a feeling blizz is trying to target the handhold devices (steam deck etc.) where you are limited by the numbers of inputs.

[hearty seal]

look, people are playing FFXIV on Steam Deck, and that game has like 20 keybinds for most jobs

[jaunty sky]

Nimble flurry is just a BF dmg increase for outlaw btw

[hearty seal]

I'd wager pretty much anything but maybe healers is super doable on Steam Deck right now

[grim jay]

Ffxiv is rotationally arguably easier than wow

You just press the same skills in the same order nearly all of the time

[jaunty sky]

Yeah but fight mechanics are harder

[grim jay]

Which is kinda fine, since it ensures that its still better cleave for outlaw

Its just subjective if you think adding smth is better than improving smth

[jaunty sky]

Tbh all they gotta do is fix stats on outlaw and do something about the weapon types

[magic fossil]

2 months since last pin, we are the middle child that parents cant even remember that exists.

[jaunty sky]

Being locked out or fully locked to outlaw bc of daggers sucks

[grim jay]

Thats kinda true, tho they should probably equalize it for outlaw since it wouldnt make sense for sin/sub to have 1h swords

Or maces atleast

[hearty seal]

yeah I honestly don't know what's the issue with allowing Outlaw to use daggers, they already have enough normalization in place so that you can play a FDK with any weapon setup, and fury mostly loses stuff to SMF because of sheer DPS/stat differences between 2hs and 1hs

[wanton spear]

if they could just fix darkest night disappearing that would be a nice. they won't but it would still be nice

[hearty seal]

ngl I'd like for assa/sub to at least have access to fists

[grim jay]

Idk, never happens for me unless its on something that just despawns

[grim jay]

Ew

Fist weapons imo are the worst type in the game

[hearty seal]

nothing says rogue like a knuckle duster
or a massive fucking slab of crystal mounted right on your arm for some reason I guess

[wanton spear]

but the nax fist weapon, is lawnmower blades how you gonna hate that

[hearty seal]

also some sick-ass bladed tonfas are out there too

[jaunty sky]

I think they should decouple transmog a bit more

1h to 1h, 2h to 2h

[grim jay]

Idk its just not the type of rogue I personally enjoy, as I usually always play the assassin type classes first and foremost, not the rogue type ones

[wanton spear]

it is kinda bs sword/fist/mace/axe can all be xmog but dagger is just dagger

[jaunty sky]

Agi Daggers ONLY exist for rogues atm as well

[grim jay]

There probably isnt a single fist weapon I like, except the Wraps monk has that make them completely disappear

[hearty seal]

ye
agi dagger, warglaive, all ranged weapons except wands = 2 specs only

[grim jay]

Which would be solved by just making daggers agi/int

[jaunty sky]

Warglaives will have 3 soon

[wanton spear]

go look at the northrend kt fist weapon lol, probably the most unique weapon look in the game

[jaunty sky]

Yeah i dont understand why they dont start doing that more

[hearty seal]

yeah but it's been 10 years of 2 specs only
and ranged have been hunter only since...I wanna say Cata?

[wanton spear]

guys remember when we used to rock a bow or gun for ranged

[hearty seal]

though technically agi daggers have been two rogue specs since inception

[jaunty sky]

Nah you could realistically use em on all specs

Like it didnt lock you out of combat right

[hearty seal]

yeah

[jaunty sky]

Not the best setup but worked

[hearty seal]

but since Sinister Strike still did a weapon damage hit

having a 2.6 sword was best

like by a lot

[jaunty sky]

Rn i cant even try outlaw without getting non dagger weapons

[hearty seal]

yeh

[wanton spear]

combat daggers was king in vanilla

[karmic gazelle]

Is fatebound still good ?

[red schooner]

Ye

[karmic gazelle]

Cool thanks def making an assassination rogue after reset

[red schooner]

We run it on like... 6/8 bosses

Its pretty good

[karmic gazelle]

Dracthyr Assassination Rogue

[main bridge]

[karmic gazelle]

cause able to glide around from high stuff like demon hunter

[latent gazelle]

Goblin glider ftw

[red schooner]

Just fling yourself off cliffs and pray there's a shadowsteppable mob near the bottom

Its more fun that way

[karmic gazelle]

hahaha

or die

So comparing between Feral vs Assassination Rogue (for main retail) which overall be easier and also low apm wise ?

[red schooner]

Assassination I'd reckon

[main bobcat]

Earthen craftsmanship

[blissful monolith]

Ah okay thanks:D

[midnight atlas]

!prism

[normal mist]

You made this same question a while ago iirc, you really have trouble with apm

But obr makes everything the same

[severe meadow]

I remember using the int dagger or sword in wotlk for aoe

I can’t remember what the weapon was now

[neat lodge]

According to reliable sources, the bug for Assassination (Rogue) has been confirmed will not be fixed until version 12.0, because the bug originates from the new set bonus. Additionally, Subtlety will receive a minor single-target buff.

[main bridge]

Lmao “the bug” like there is only one

What nonsense

[severe meadow]

Thanks ChatGPT

[normal mist]

JohnGPT helping us today

[red schooner]

According to a reliable source, (the voices in my head), WE'RE GOING TO BE BUFFED TO THE MOON LET'S FUCKING GO BOYS

[severe meadow]

Reliable source also says we’re going to kiss

Get to it buddy

[normal mist]

I'm the reliable source

[red schooner]

[normal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-glasses-sparkle-gif-10669548

[severe meadow]

(He’s watching)

Royal promoted to cuck chair

[normal mist]

Fuck yeah I love promotions

[umbral sigil]

A reliable source says the rapture is happening but its a backwards rapture

[hearty seal]

so a rupture? xD

[umbral sigil]

bleeds out and dies

[humble verge]

@haughty flicker

[neat lodge]

The source stated: "Blizzard is very pleased with Rogue's performance in raids and dungeons. They believe it is their most successful class design, bar none."

[normal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/chatgpt-ai-gpt-ask-thinking-gif-17900194303856750041

https://tenor.com/view/chatgpt-gif-5562777388486596347

[neat lodge]

I'm not ChatGPT, I'm DeepSeek!

[humble verge]

https://tenor.com/view/james-doakes-doakes-curious-suspicious-questioning-gif-14390669560130901665

[main bridge]

Love Doakes

Best character

[royal lantern]

mf got 2 different memes that are decades appart from eachother

its impressive

[humble verge]

so you love the Bay Harbour Butcher?

[grim jay]

Loved when he died

[vestal granite]

you guys ever do a 99% log but nobodys been logging?

xd

maybe they ll update later I can prayge

[royal lantern]

not really, cus somebody is always logging tbh (its not me)

[hearty seal]

how'd you know it's 99% then

[main bridge]

I’m always logging

[red schooner]

Vibes

[vestal granite]

vibes and also its not that hard to figure out

[main bridge]

I’m logging in your raid also

[vestal granite]

just a heroic kill though w/e

[red schooner]

It may have been a 23 log in reality, but in my heart? Its a 99.

And that's the important thing

[hearty seal]

ngl I had to install Loggerhead

too used to just running ACT in the background instead of having to start a log

[grim jay]

You can just ldn

Tbf

[hearty seal]

ldn?

[grim jay]

Log DEEZ NUTS

[red schooner]

[tranquil cobalt]

its sad i actually believe they think this

[visual sun]

devs maybe

[normal mist]

To be fair we aren't in a bad spot

[red sonnet]

to be fair i can't join any LFG squad for all day long

[normal mist]

The negative bug (funnel not working with caustic) is basically being saved by sanguine blades double dipping

[normal mist]

Don't lfg

[tranquil cobalt]

sure but overall we are still one of if not the weakest raid spec currently

[normal mist]

You're doing 15/16s with pugs lol @red sonnet

[red sonnet]

i dont wanna play LFG either

[normal mist]

We are?

That's new for me

[tranquil cobalt]

overall damage were last boss damage we are lower middle

[red sonnet]

i was kicked from my squad since week 3, as we get top 0.1% together in season 1

[main bridge]

time to reroll to a class in the national squad

i started playing frost dk and it's sooo much better

it's unreal

[normal mist]

Nice "friends"

[red schooner]

LFG sucks for any DPS, it is what it is.

[red sonnet]

"no mercy"

[normal mist]

Idk man, I'm usually either top1 or top2 in my runs, I'm living the dream

[main bridge]

you're just built different Royal

[red schooner]

If you host your own key you'll get swarmed in DPS, you're part of that swarm.

[normal mist]

It's the upcoming dad bod

[main bridge]

i have the dad bod but i don't have any kids

[normal mist]

But you're ready for them

Ahahaha

[red schooner]

Have you bought socks and sandals yet?

[normal mist]

Negative, I'll never use those

[red schooner]

It'll happen

[normal mist]

All black all day summer and winter

[main bridge]

that sounds very sweaty

[normal mist]

It's not like I enjoy leaving the house anyway

(which I will when my daughter grows up)

[runic hinge]

Me in all black today heading to sleep token

[normal mist]

Honestly I don't sweat much, so if I'm not running like a manic I'm chill

[runic hinge]

Same

[cyan dew]

Guys should I FoK on soul hunters if all 3 of them are together on mythic?

[zinc vale]

yup

[cyan dew]

ty

[humble verge]

wait wtf

björk is almost 60

i thought she was way younger just cause of her looks

[hearty seal]

p sure that's at least a year

[glacial stump]

With fatebound how do we go about sending shivs, with the reduced CD how do things lign up?

[coral ibex]

2 with DM 1 with kb

repeat

[glacial stump]

Thanks

[alpine glade]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/zPKhRJkHF9G64rAY?fight=26&type=damage-done&source=456

anything I'm majorly messing up?

[real comet]

shiving too early on your off tempo kingsbanr

wait until last 8 seconds

[glacial stump]

I'm no expert obvs but looks like you didnt re apply your vanish buffed garrote in the opener in time

[real comet]

you also double shiv your first off tempo kingsbanr

[coral ibex]

we dont play improved garrote this season

vanish is exclusively for double jeopardy

!dj

[prisma monolith]

Vanishing On Fatebound

• you vanish for double jeopardy, a Fatebound talent
• this causes your next flip to flip an additional coin, and this coin can be an edge-case coin
• because of this, you want to vanish when you know the next flip is an edge-case flip
• edge case flips happen as a result of pressing deathmark, kingsbane, or the two envenoms afterwards which are affected by cold blood. You can vanish before ANY of these flips.
• you should be vanishing every 3 minutes, lining up with every other deathmark, and this will also align with netherprism every 3 minutes for maximum burst

[real comet]

then dont have 2 shivs for your 2nd dm+kn

kb*

[glacial stump]

ty !

[real comet]

id have to look closer not on my phone, but i think you may be going into your kingsbanes with low energy. you also ideally dont want to be reapplying bleeds as your first few globals in kingsbane, ideally want envenoms rolling

[coral ibex]

another week no prism in my vault

both shitty necks tho!

[glacial stump]

Cool legs mog on the bottom middle 😉

[grim jay]

im convinced that trinket doesnt exist for some people

0 drops on main clears

not even on heroic

[plain hare]

It's been a month since the spec is broken, still no fix planned...Have they decided to ignore us until Midnight or beyond ?

[wanton spear]

beyond

[fast hound]

and we will get the worst rework imaginable, just trust Blizzard 😄

[plain hare]

no faith in Blizzard anymore tbh but we will see

they will probably focus on the new DH sooooo....we will be abandoned again xd

[visual sun]

add normal clears and no dice - while my guildies get santa on speed dial every vault

[marsh fjord]

You didn’t do the famous gif to get lucky in your vault bro

[last skiff]

Do you like to play assa on dh mythic?

[grim jay]

funny, because the previous one we got was one of the best

and just a straight up positive thing for the spec

[blazing kayak]

I NEED HELP

[hearty seal]

from what I've heard, it was a "solid foundation, needs finishing" kind of thing, rather than a comprehensive "fix all the wrong shit" rework
and then TWW happened and basically messed some stuff up again but improved nothing

[main bridge]

here come the vault screenshots

[blazing kayak]

i picked lily on use trinket last week. my 2nd trinket is a last season shitty trinket. Which 1 do i pick for keys

[marsh fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/vault-shrek-bonvaultatous-falkou-s3-gif-18003998478798665841

[hearty seal]

sim it

but pace is generally better most of the time

[grim jay]

it kinda did fix most of the issues, for example sin being historically shit in dungeons and helping the spec on many different levels

it was and still is the best its ever been

[hearty seal]

well let's hope it's not the best it's ever gonna be

[grim jay]

why ? the gameplay, atleast in m+, is great

on ST its exactly what you would expect from it

[hearty seal]

ST could use some work ngl

[plain hare]

you're right, but ignoring a major bug for over a month is still weird

[hearty seal]

and M+...well, M+ ST is mind-numbing

AoE is fine and fun

[grim jay]

its not ´really gamebreaking in any way

[grim jay]

idk, I think they could add a few more things to track, but that aside

[marsh fjord]

I wouldn’t say the bugs are major it’s annoying yes. But nothing really major

We could use a ST buff tho

[alpine glade]

by off tempo you mean the ones were I do Kingsbane without Deathmark, right?

[marsh fjord]

Kingsbane without deathmark????

[hearty seal]

you get 2 KBs per DM

so ye

[plain hare]

mmmh, in my opinion, tier set bug + hero talents bug, it is major, not gamebreaker but major for sure

[alpine glade]

you only get DM every other Kingsbane, no?

[marsh fjord]

Oh like that I thought he meant he is using KB when he’s deathmark is up

Ignore me

I just woken up

[hearty seal]

fair

[grim jay]

cant put a number on the tierset bug really, except if you abuse it

but the hero talents thing isnt that big

[marsh fjord]

I read up a bit only thing you gotta know is you shiv every 8 seconds in your DM. And in your solo kingsbane you use it on the last 8 seconds of kingsbane

[grim jay]

some streamers with no clue about rogue threw a way too big number in for the hero talent stuff

while in reality its like 2-3% overall

thats only really big in the way it works

and how it affects the damage profile

not in raw numbers

[marsh fjord]

BIGG

[hearty seal]

gz!

[marsh fjord]

DESERVED DEJA

[plain hare]

yy i know, im talking about our damage profile

i mean, we are supposed to be big funnel spec

[marsh fjord]

Funnel comes from two places

[plain hare]

we are still good, but not as expected

[marsh fjord]

Your rupture to get energy + the talent that isn’t working right now

That’s the only thing

[plain hare]

that is what im talking about xd

[marsh fjord]

It’s like 3/4% less

I feel like it’s not that groundbreaking

[runic hinge]

It’s not working with caustic spatter specifically. Not entirely not working at all

It matters more in raid cause you have more spatter but with bleed build it’s less

[golden loom]

we had 0 drop on first kill
2 on first re-clear
1 on second re-clear

[hearty seal]

yeah so you're losing like 5% (8% with Shiv) x 0.36, which really is like 2-3% overall

[blazing kayak]

i went with pacemaker

[runic hinge]

Yes it’s not 15% like the streamers claim

[hearty seal]

I think Whisp's vid says like 5% with all bugs (including momentum) considered

[grim jay]

nah

if you math it out on the video

its 2 or 3 there aswell

[runic hinge]

Momentum is just replaced by the other talent so you’re not losing much more

[grim jay]

SB bug adds damage, momentum is somewhat equalized with ftb

[plain hare]

yeah but why have we to be happy because we can replace a talent that don't work by another talent

the talent literraly don't work

its major lmao

[grim jay]

because you could have no replacement and just lose way more dmg

its not the only talent in the spec, the class nor the game that doesnt work or doesnt work properly

[astral current]

any1 got datamind info about new enchantments?

[golden loom]

yeah the bug is bigger in raid cause follow the blood is pretty much useless there

its still good in m+

[coral ibex]

just dropped a warbound champ antenna with speed in this heroic

let us go

[runic hinge]

All the fotm players switching to sub like that spec is bug free

[red schooner]

Are you trying to say that streamers and content makers sensationalise things for views?

[oak tangle]

i wouldn't call myself fotm, but i would say that that sub was absolute dogshit from BFA till DF or so

[marsh fjord]

Your so fotm bro

https://tenor.com/view/rage-bait-gif-17870535188958174605

[oak tangle]

i'm a sub fan, that's been having to paly sin for so long i just became a sin main XD

[coral ibex]

xd

[marsh fjord]

Time to gear a alt bro

It even has speed

[red schooner]

So you can run away from the orbs even quicker

[oak tangle]

at 714 ilvl, LFR boots are an upgrade....

[real comet]

correct. you are only supposed to send one shiv with this kingsbane, but you sent two. this kingsbane off tempo from deathmark gets one shiv in the final 8 seconds so that you have 2 shivs for your upcoming 90 seconds burst window when deathmark and kingsbane line up

[weary stump]

You could say it was a knife in a bad place

[rocky condor]

Is there any stable Fatebound BiS List in the Web?

[marsh fjord]

Bis List

https://tenor.com/view/cat-macska-cica-vomit-oklendez-gif-14738230240638170539

[rocky condor]

Just for the Raidleaders. They always like to use the WoWHead BiS List, but thats actually for Deathstalker while we playin Fatebound in Raid recently

[marsh fjord]

Just sim yourself in fatebound under the droptimizer and give him the link

[red schooner]

Wh...why are your raid leaders using bis lists for loot distribution?

Are they okay?

[marsh fjord]

If you tell Whispyr he has to make other bis list but for fatebound I think he will lose it

[half musk]

How do I use thistle tea? Seeing lots of different usage on lorrgs / warcraft logs.

On 1st dm+kb, seems people only use it for second shiv, then on 2nd kb with shiv+tt on the last 8 seconds of kb?

[golden loom]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[golden loom]

macro to shiv and forget about it

if ur looking at logs for example, auto procs of tea do not show up in the cast timeline

but u just macro and never think about tea

[half musk]

interesting, i did see a lot of logs with like 2 tea sips and was confused

tyty for spilling the tea

[marsh fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/tea-good-morning-love-messages-gif-25662378

[coral ibex]

ok smart guys why is this sim going double on use for fatebound ST https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/dXrgRMLD58yToZP1Khs4kk

[main bridge]

regardless it's a 5m sim with prism so it's cooked

[marsh fjord]

I have no idea why he would do that. but it might be because of netherprism?

Since netheprism basically gives no value on start

[golden loom]

well they are equal

[marsh fjord]

@coral ibex if you had mythic atenna you would be so unbelieveable geared lol

[coral ibex]

yea but 2x on use is supposed to be bad

for fb assa

[marsh fjord]

I just think its because of netherprism giving no value on start

Can you try a 6 minut sim?

[golden loom]

well prism is good but the problem is also that ur lily is 723 while ur alternative trinkets are 704

[coral ibex]

got the lily week 1 vault

[golden loom]

like if u had 723 lily, prism and antenna, using prism + lily wouldnt be the best option

[marsh fjord]

guys

whats the quickest way to get a spark

[main bridge]

weekly content

[coral ibex]

weekly quest

[coral ibex]

yea my parses are a testament to how fucking bad i am

[hearty seal]

god I hate losing to a BM hunter on damage

[coral ibex]

[marsh fjord]

????

Your parses are fucking good man

what you on about

[coral ibex]

not relative to my gear

[marsh fjord]

I genuinely think you are good player bro

if my comment showed anything else then its my bad

i just think you are really geared

[tepid zephyr]

Sims coming up pretty marginal (all within .5%). Choice between Myth Soleah's and Hero Forge. what's the take if i'm mainly doing keys for the rest of the season?

[weary stump]

We glaze each other because no one outside of this discord understands us

[marsh fjord]

if your doing keys. i would go forge honestly

[coral ibex]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/3hZ4TmuKYKBTmJx2PrbEQs

on a 6m sim 2x on use is even better

[marsh fjord]

Yeah because netherprism getting more value + your other trinkets are low

[coral ibex]

i was all excited about this champ antenna as a small upgrade to my pace

now its just going to my alt

[marsh fjord]

You gotta tell your guild you need atenna ASAP

[coral ibex]

who doesn't need antenna

i wont get it if it drops on reclear tonight

[golden loom]

when I am on dimmy I will be very happy with my pacemaker compared to antenna!!

[coral ibex]

i WILL freak out over a forge drop tho

need that looted in my bags post haste

[golden loom]

for sub?

[coral ibex]

yar

[main bridge]

i still don't even have boots 🙃

raid loot is stupid

[red sonnet]

17 ARA-KARA entry wave and second wave lol

[coral ibex]

the only other leather wearers in my raid are the brew tank and a havoc

and im higher on prio than the havoc on loot

been lucky on leather drops too

[golden loom]

do you not have druids or monks what da helly

[red sonnet]

this is cool

[coral ibex]

oh we do have a resto druid lol

and no monks otherwise no

well we do have a mw now that we're 4 healing NK

but they havent been in on really any other boss

[fallow canopy]

been rocking the forbidden lily prism combo

[waxen oyster]

plexus belt

and its a dps loss

for both specs

[fallow canopy]

everyone and their mother wants that silly forgeussy

[marsh fjord]

in a few weeks it wont

[waxen oyster]

was my only usable vault item

besides hoa ring

[marsh fjord]

in a few weeks the belt will be a upgrade

[coral ibex]

im just crafting in 11.2.5

for my belt

fuck it

[waxen oyster]

Yeah has avoidance at least

[oak tangle]

is it a new spark this week?

[golden loom]

at 6/6?

[waxen oyster]

so now i can complain more

[waxen oyster]

at 5/6

[golden loom]

skill issue

[waxen oyster]

need to check if this weeks gilded best spend

is sending my 3/6 tier slots or a crafted ring

[marsh fjord]

You guys think they gonna uncap our gilded when 12.5 hits

[oak tangle]

fo sho

[waxen oyster]

thats why you hoard your lower crests

[golden loom]

I transmute every week

but I also like spamming m+ when theres crests to grind

so idm

[waxen oyster]

I only did last week because i could send a mh and legs

[oak tangle]

i dont do content to get the lower stuff

[marsh fjord]

wait why do you hoard lower crest?

[oak tangle]

cause you upcycle

[waxen oyster]

trade them up

when they uncap

[oak tangle]

when i need 150 gilded to upgrade my 5 crafted pieces to 726 or whatever it'll be

[fallow canopy]

you technically cap them just by getting gilded and shit if you do m+ and raid

since they downscale when you get them if you are capped

[oak tangle]

i should clarify, i dont do "enough" for that

[fallow canopy]

fair

[oak tangle]

like i get some, cause i generally cap on gilded each week

but im not getting gilded from raid, so my cap coems from keys

[golden loom]

I have 105 crests on DH and 75 on warrior going into reset so with vault RNG there might be a chance they overtake my main in ilvl

[waxen oyster]

3 big chars

[golden loom]

Alting is very fun this season

Raid is a banger to pug, weekly keys are fun, delves are fun

Good times

[oak tangle]

i think my dh is dead in the water though, i didnt do anything on it this last week

[marsh fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/hop-on-delves-wow-world-of-warcraft-delves-gif-14432991049419752279

[golden loom]

My DK is scaling though

[oak tangle]

that's me on my mage

it's literally missing 3 totla ilvl on jsut it's chest alone

something doesn't belong here

[fresh kelp]

Y’all need to play the long game