assassination

[desert crest]

I tested it in a +10 floodgate tho

[waxen oyster]

I feel its very easy to justify in keys like floodgate

where tank has to gather anyway

[desert crest]

and they did not wait

it was not worth

So i can confirm that +10 is too low lul

[waxen oyster]

I just brought up db because, there is pretty much 0 gather/ramp up time

to a pack starting

Like priory you can easily do the whole thing while your tank is setting up the first pull

[desert crest]

Yeah flood hall ara priory

Can u do it in a gambit?

There is a guy is there not?

to go out of key

[zealous moth]

hm

sim seems to be using prism with every deathmark

is there any way to make it use it at max stacks?

[desert crest]

Using every 2nd deathmark makes u overcap

It will fully stack in 3 min

[zealous moth]

for fatebound

with 4set

[waxen oyster]

ideal sim way for prism as fb is with vanish

[zealous moth]

i know

that's what i'm trying to see, dps with prism every 3 min

but it's using it every 1:30

[solid canopy]

!ui

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[jaunty sky]

Its the same in sim environment

Same amount of stats in the same amount of time

[balmy condor]

The logic got fucked by a background change, add 0.6% to any prism sim you do

I’m getting my wisdom teeth removed in like an hour I’ll try and fix it later tonight

[zealous moth]

cool, thanks!

i mean it was a big upgrade for both m+ and raid anyway so

i already know from here that you still use it on vanish

[humble verge]

we are so goated on alt

i just need to replace my veteran dagger

[red sonnet]

is there going to be a class adjustment this week?

[runic hinge]

🔮

[buoyant herald]

Doubt

[runic hinge]

You’ll be unwise after tho so are you sure you’ll be able to fix it?

[lunar pond]

You are going to do math while drugged up on painkillers?

[balmy condor]

I don’t need to do math

I already know what the fix is

[lunar pond]

Feelings?

Ah

[main bridge]

my dentist was goated and i didn't even need pain killers after my wisdom teeth were removed

i woke up and i was like "it's done?"

[thorn thorn]

Do you still have all your organs

[main bridge]

i think so

[buoyant herald]

There is no way you didn’t need painkillers after wisdom teeth out unless your nerves had already rotted away into oblivion

[zealous moth]

can someone help me understand something from simc?

[main bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/believe-it-naruto-gif-11063369

[buoyant herald]

You can’t tell me what to do

[thorn thorn]

Bro has the pain tolerance of a rock

[zealous moth]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/aXNEhDSfgjDfbJN8uepvTR
This is telling me that Haste/Mastery Ring is a 1% upgrade, how do i know over which ring it is looking? my assumption is to kill jastor, but how can i make sure?

oh wait

i can add it on a top gear sim

i forgor

nvm, learned i can do that like this week lol

[unborn rain]

if ur nerves were rotting away im p sure it would be a couple of months of pure agony

[thorn thorn]

maybe the dentist stole the nerves in his face

[main bridge]

if you need pain killers your blood line is weak and you will not survive the winter

[unborn rain]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-podracing-the-phantom-menace-zoom-background-virtual-background-gif-16836691

[thorn thorn]

have you had rabies shots

[main bridge]

foams from mouth

y-yes

just keep water away from me

[thorn thorn]

tell me that after you had rabies shots

cuz i promise you that shit hurts

[runic hinge]

I don’t need painkillers I just like to do drugs

[main bridge]

i had four impacted wisdom teeth and had a fifth regular tooth removed too

https://tenor.com/view/plan-dental-the-simpsons-lisa-simpson-teeth-gif-15338420

[thorn thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-james-doakes-erik-king-stare-staring-gif-1343162792415382650

[rocky condor]

Hey guys. Can someone tell me whats wrong here? It seems like i manage something wrong on soulbinder. https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/nAgDR2Fj4NqpC8vW?type=casts&fight=21&source=9&view=timeline

Wrong log, i fixed it

[balmy condor]

It compares to both rings, you can see in the comparison which ring it’s replacing

So in this case finger 2

[marsh fjord]

Well for starters your opener is wrong

[steel elbow]

I have a pool. We should have a party.

[silent drift]

in sub, im use to running double active, in sin do i just use forge or prism alone? or do i run double as well?

[marsh fjord]

Never mind read it wrong. you dont run double no. you use prism with attenna

[silent drift]

aight, bet

ty

[marsh fjord]

or pacemaker

[balmy condor]

Can also sim it to see just how shit it is

(Double on use is really ass)

[silent drift]

still waiting to see a pin mark and reading the bug fixes have happened on sin :/

[desert crest]

It is official it is no longer bugged

This is just how assa works now

Why would you think that caustic would funnel???

[waxen oyster]

who has the boomkin kicked down stairs pic

[humble verge]

https://imgur.com/6yTR1eW

not boomkin but

bear

oh i guess its boomie

[humble verge]

lol

[lost nexus]

Man... This game was better when they were adding fun spells like 's Cartridge of Iocane

[waxen oyster]

ty king

[urban loom]

!macro

[prisma monolith]

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[humble verge]

time for bed

[urban loom]

!ui

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[zealous moth]

ohhhh, i didn't see it said finger 2

[marsh fjord]

goodnight dont forgot to brush your teeth

[zealous moth]

good to know, thanks whispyr

[humble verge]

@coral ibex @balmy condor

just need to fix my dh log and ill get your asses on all stars

[coral ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/nodding-soyjak-pissluffare-soy-gif-25061889

[coral ibex]

i have my eyes on mr. herp

brah

[balmy condor]

+1 panic attack
-4 wisdom teeth

Fuck my life

[marsh fjord]

less wisdom now?

[balmy condor]

Very stupid

Mouth full of blood, this is fantastic

So glad I did this

[turbid lion]

so more wisdom now?

[balmy condor]

The question is if the teeth store wisdom or siphon it out

[storm forum]

I'm also so glad I got oral surgery instead of like, a car or a new PC or a vacation

[balmy condor]

True

I’m also looking forward to taking like 47 pills

[storm forum]

I still don't know what to do with my leftover vicodin

[woven frost]

4 teeth at once is rough.

[balmy condor]

Beats having to do them individually

Two of them had to come out cause of cavities

[bright cipher]

removed wisdom teeth?

[balmy condor]

Bottom left and top right

So like

Already opposite sides of my mouth

Fuck it

[woven frost]

It’ll suck tonight but you’ll feel like a new man in like 48 hours.

[storm forum]

I was in pain for like 3 weeks

[bright cipher]

it sucks once the anesthesia starts to fade

[woven frost]

True- the muscles all tighten so bad once the numbing is gone

I did 4 as well a while back- would not recommend. I bounced back quick but that first night was awful.

[jaunty warren]

A heating pad on the neck helped me

[crisp sluice]

With netherprism, the idea is to use it off the rip then wait for every second deathmark right? Is it that bad if i just pop on 130 min

[coral ibex]

macro to DM for deathstalker and vanish for fatebound

dont need to think about it

[humble verge]

0 dim log

[coral ibex]

[crisp sluice]

tyty

[humble verge]

it being r2

[coral ibex]

im tempted to go assa for nk but it will be troll i think

my platform needs the dam

sub jail

[humble verge]

man

[humble verge]

i was literally thinking this

going FB

i feel like we could do decent titan dam with assa tho?

imma try it on sunday

and see how it is

ill let you know

[spring moat]

how are people riding druids and gathering herbs/ore? says im mounted lol

[coral ibex]

its a gathering talent

[main bridge]

what can i do to make Dawnbreaker less painful as sin?

it doesn't seem too easy to pull stuff onto bosses there

[spring moat]

i have the node filled to say 'gather while mounted'

[coral ibex]

thats what its supposed to do

[unborn rain]

invite a bm hunter

[main bridge]

hehe i do have a hunter in my group, i just want to contribute more personally

[unborn rain]

idk what u could do dmg wise on st

could try being easier to heal so ur healer can dps too

[main bridge]

usually the answer is just pulling more stuff onto boss, so i'm trying to figure out what we can do there for that

[unborn rain]

2nd boss would be the only one u could pull stuff onto

[balmy condor]

Could try cleave I guess

[unborn rain]

unless u hit the miracle missing pack proc on last phase of the final boss

[coral ibex]

one of our dh's just had to "completely reinstall" his gpu

because he blue screened

during nk prog

???

[unborn rain]

its prob unseated ram

[earnest dust]

Is fatebound going to be significantly more dps than sub for the single target raid fights

[haughty flicker]

well you go from literally last to just below average

at that point who cares though

[earnest dust]

Thats for fatebound and not deathstalker right

[haughty flicker]

nobody is playing ds on that fight

so yes

[earnest dust]

Thanks

Which fight was that, loom? And plexus

[haughty flicker]

well thats fract but it looks about the same on loom

and plexus yes

sub bottom two assa bottom third/mid

[earnest dust]

Yeah im around 4th on my team as sub and wanting some more juice

[coral ibex]

then yes go fatebound

[grave rivet]

Can we cloak the floor spikes on Nexus King?

[main bridge]

i think so but you can also just shadow step someone

[haughty flicker]

should be able to

[coral ibex]

i always step back to boss as soon as the claw knockback happens

its fine

[vestal granite]

wait Rets can do 5m boss dps? why does the guy in my +12 key do 2million whats going on?

[plain hare]

is there a macro to meld + stealth without pressing two time ?

[rotund oak]

no

[plain hare]

thanks

[fathom flax]

I got a 100 parse on plexus and a 3 on soul hunters in the same night

My life is a joke

[marsh fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-happy-but-sad-face-gif-19422780

this is you

[oak tangle]

does not work on bosses, if you were hoping it did

[coral ibex]

had to reprog 2 new people for all of p1 nexus king and we still got back to p3 prog

[hexed harbor]

im locked in chat

[coral ibex]

[cunning needle]

LETS GO BIGSTEALTHY

[deft shard]

What addon you use ??

[oak tangle]

What does the gg next to their names mean?

[runic hinge]

Did they say gg or not

If they didn’t

Report them for being mean

[oak tangle]

I never say gg, I hit them with a ‘Ty’ and drop group right before my hearth fires

[zenith ledge]

Hi, I picked up rogue not long ago, and I have a question regarding assassination. Is it normal to be energy starved most of the time during single target fights? I find myself waiting for enough energy to cast mutilate. Is there any other way to get energy back besides keeping rupture/garrote active, using tea or simply waiting? Sorry if this is a stupid question 😛

[oak tangle]

!design

[prisma monolith]

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. As a burst spec our damage is mainly loaded into Deathmark/Shiv and massive Envenoms through stacking multiple nature damage buffs such as Lingering Darkness, Shiv, Darkest Night, Amplifying Poison, and more. This comes with the natural downside of our damage suffering outside of these windows, in part due to the designed lack of energy slowing us down.

Because of this, there is only one minor (0.3%) min-max with energy, which is pooling 3-4 seconds into an upcoming Kingsbane. Ideally this would put you at around 50-60% energy before you enter your Kingsbane, which is more than enough energy alongside thistle tea. Outside of that, spam Envenom and just accept that you will run out of energy. There is nothing you can do to not run out of energy. Playing around Envenom uptime also is not relevant anymore, as Twist the knife allows for two stacks at a time, which reduces wasted uptime dramatically. Without twist the knife, wasting uptime is unavoidable.

[zenith ledge]

well thats a fun design 😛

[oak tangle]

It is 🙂 we are a planner and an upkeep spec not a smash buttons like monkey, even though you can do that, you just have to wait

[reef shuttle]

Though if they want to increase our dmg a lil they could give us about a base 25% energy regen increase and cal it good 😛 more mutilates

[oak tangle]

As long as cp don’t go above cap, and energy don’t hit 300, you’re okay

[oak tangle]

I don’t even know if it would do that much, our damage is already compressed into cds where we don’t have energy issues

[balmy condor]

@coral ibex

[haughty flicker]

wtf

new glorp dropped

[balmy condor]

[coral ibex]

hows your mouth

[balmy condor]

hurty

but not bad

bleeding already stopped for the most part I think

[oak tangle]

Did you get your wisdom teeth yoinked?

[balmy condor]

yessir

[haughty flicker]

rip whispyrs power

no more wisdom

[balmy condor]

1600 bucks

[oak tangle]

Hah, America classic

[balmy condor]

[coral ibex]

hope you feel better big man

[balmy condor]

yeah....

[coral ibex]

tell squishei you need better dental

[balmy condor]

they didn't put me under, was local anesthesia

[coral ibex]

OOF

that is rough

[oak tangle]

They give you the good gas?

[balmy condor]

which was honestly fine

no

needle to the gums

that wasn't the issue

[haughty flicker]

ye they stab the fuck out of you

then you have to sit there

[balmy condor]

the issue was I have an awful gag reflex

[haughty flicker]

awkwardly

[coral ibex]

im high key scared of dental stuff beyond cleaning bc im a ginger so i have a ridiculous tolerance to local anesthesia

[balmy condor]

and a gauze slipped into my throat

and my body instantly was like

YOURE FUCKING DYING

[oak tangle]

I got fully put under when I had mine done but they did 3 surgeries in 1

[balmy condor]

and so I just had a panic attack for the rest of the surgery

[coral ibex]

last time i got some, the nurse's mouth was gaping wide open at how many times she had to stab me

[balmy condor]

was great

[coral ibex]

omfg

thats awful

🙁

[oak tangle]

Yeah sounds rough

[earnest remnant]

we can fix that

[oak tangle]

When I had mine they cut from my lip down my chin cause I had a hole in my chin bone

[balmy condor]

no you literally can't

I would be throwing up on it big dawg

sorry to say

[earnest remnant]

its trainable

is all im sayin

luckily i never had to get wisdom teeth removed

both my parents did

but ive got a big af mouth so they just fit in

[haughty flicker]

i was just too stupid to grow wisdom teeth in the first place

[oak tangle]

It’s crazy to me in this day and age of humanity, where some people have none, have them all, have to only get 2 removed etc. thought we were the same and all

[earnest remnant]

i got mine super early as well

they were like with the amount this stupid mfer eats he needs the extra chewing power ong

[hexed harbor]

for what?

thats from details idk what its called

[deft shard]

Ive never see it like that

What do u press to have the ui like that?

[coral ibex]

its the streamer plugin for details

under broadcaster tools

[hexed harbor]

It’s an extra add on basically to details it kept popping up for me to download it I hopped off but if I remember tomorrow I’ll look for the add on and post it in here

You could also just look up details on curse forge and possibly find it idk tho

[deft shard]

I will search it tomorow ty

[grim jay]

Nature and equality

[rotund oak]

My entire body feels like i was beaten by 10 ppl from the intense exercise(its olive gathering season here,the intense stress on the body under the sun is real)

hope you are doing better

[balmy condor]

!marco

!macro

[prisma monolith]

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[grim jay]

https://tenor.com/view/shouting-yandel-jay-wheeler-eva-music-screaming-gif-14103553858382385250

[oak tangle]

!polio

[rotund oak]

!uwu

ok we dont have cringe commands

[golden loom]

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-dog-suspicious-look-suspicious-doubt-dog-doubt-gif-23680990

[quaint nimbus]

I found it
https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/details-damage-meter-mythic

[balmy condor]

details actually made their bloatware a separate addon rather than ramming it down everyones throats on the base damage meter?

the world is healing

[vestal wren]

It still adds a lot of functionality baseline many don't need^^

[oak tangle]

You mean you guys aren’t toxic people that check the cc breaks tab to flame people

[static glacier]

Imagine needing details to flame people

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-duck-gif-1363576254939741235

[oak tangle]

I beat a 700 warrior with my 658 mage, I had to hold off on flaming

Warrior got no business doing 1.5m overall in a 7

[vestal wren]

Think everyone will be happy in the next xpac

when wow gets a damage meter baseline

so all the symptoms you discribed can be enjoyed by a bigger majority of players just as they start playing the game

[cunning needle]

i need an elitismhelper addon that instead reports when someone dies to a mob casting

XYZ has died to [Shadow Bolt]. Illydan, Fimbulvtr and Zeilouz had kick off cooldown but didn't cast it.

[oak tangle]

Haha

[waxen oyster]

hey pressing 3 buttons is hard

[static glacier]

have meters that correctly attribute contribution to aug any% challenge level: impossible

[fading kite]

is it fine to drop a point in lethal dose if I want to use iron wire? or what would be the adjustments for using it? I feel it has good value don't know if it would compensate the loss in dps tho

[waxen oyster]

i mean you can still game you'll just do less dps

[slate crown]

I just have details disabled on my healer, and I have them hidden in combat on my dps. Considering disabling on my dps too. I auto log and live log so I can just look at logs after the pull. Mental is much clearer

[carmine silo]

How big is the dps loss roughly? (Not at pc so can't sim atm). I've been thinking of going Iron wire as well since in the 14 range (pugs) almost all bricks are due to casts going off

[balmy condor]

the weakaura queen is alive

[slate crown]

I was chatting a tad earlier

[balmy condor]

couple %

[slate crown]

Though quake had to ping me

[balmy condor]

it's been a long day mb

[slate crown]

I saw you got ur teeth yoinky sploinky’s

[balmy condor]

yuh

hurty

[slate crown]

I got mine out… almost 10 years ago? It really sucked

[balmy condor]

and now I get to swallow like 382 thousand pills

very cool

[runic hinge]

yoiky sploinky is was my nickname in college

[slate crown]

Was when I first had soylent

Those were the early days of soylent too

Cause I couldn’t eat real food right away

[balmy condor]

my gf made me pasta and a smoothie

spaghetti is actually very eatable as long as they're like

no longer than 0.5 inch

[golden loom]

its weird how different wisdom teeth can be, getting the left side taken out the dentist just suddenly said "there you go its out" and I didnt even notice, the right side one they had to crush and it was very hard to get out

[slate crown]

Just put the spaghetti in a blender and make a pasta smoothie

[balmy condor]

I think the weirdest thing about teeth is how they got like huge fucking fangs to dig into your mouth

[slate crown]

Oh I went under for mine

[balmy condor]

they look like fucking drills

[slate crown]

So I don’t remember anything after the mask when on until I woke up

[balmy condor]

like what you need all that for

[slate crown]

Have you seen tree roots?

[golden loom]

my best dentist experience is that it took 6 appointments to get my root canal done on one tooth and the final procedure was done by a student and in the middle of the thingy he just said "okay now I have to get my teacher to come check if this is okay" as I was laying there with my mouth open

[balmy condor]

I mean I didn't go under

so yeah, sounds like that

[golden loom]

I was someones school project

[balmy condor]

it's legit like taking a tree stump out of the ground

sounds and feels the exact same

[slate crown]

Maybe nature was onto something

[balmy condor]

you feel a bunch of pressure on the tooth, and then you legit hear the sound of a tree cracking

like ASMR tree felling

and then they go "okay, lots of pressure"

and fucking yoinky that bitch out

was actually quite cool

very glad I didn't go under

[golden loom]

yeah on the side that was hard to get out it felt like they were dragging out my entire skull

[balmy condor]

it was fascinating

[brisk forge]

Will never happen in Sweden no matter what you do to your teeth’s

[slate crown]

I had this in college too, my school had a pretty large med school and dental was part of that, so I got cheapo care as a (non med) student by just going and being a subject for someone’s class

Homework*

[balmy condor]

they.... don't give you pain meds and anti-bacterials and steroids for the swelling and anti-septics?

that sounds backwards

[golden loom]

in finland atleast we got pain meds + some mouthwash

[balmy condor]

like I gotta take a bunch of steroids now to help against inflammation and swelling, the mouthwash, pain meds, and an anti-bacterial pill

[golden loom]

maybe antibiotics aswell? canmt remember

[slate crown]

Yeah I’m all for saying the us healthcare system is garbage but saying nah you don’t need any pills after a procedure is next level

[balmy condor]

or anti biotics

idk the difference im ngl

[golden loom]

but the solution to the swelling was "heres an icebag"

[balmy condor]

yeah that's reasonable

I think the steroids are a new thing though ngl

[slate crown]

I had antibiotics, they also gave me oxy but I didn’t take any of it

[balmy condor]

gf got her wisdom teeth out like 4-5 years ago and she didn't get steroids

[slate crown]

I didn’t have steroids

[balmy condor]

but I guess that's the move now

[golden loom]

steroids as in a spray?

[balmy condor]

no

tiny little pill

[golden loom]

oh

[grim jay]

I wish I would get steroids from my doctor

[oak tangle]

I had a essentially kidney stone removed from my saliva duct, wisdom teeth out a a cyst scraped in my jaw in one procedure in high school

[balmy condor]

not those steroids you fucking muscle monster

yeesh

my wisdom teeth were all decaying

two really bad cavities, one meh, one starting

[slate crown]

Same

[grim jay]

Sadge

[golden loom]

yeah idk all I remember is that the painmedication pills were stronger than normal and that combined with the liquid diet afterwards (icecream ) was a very healthy combo and u totally didnt feel like shit!

[balmy condor]

I had a this thing going on with two of my wisdom teeth, not nearly as bad, but it did make cleaning them giga difficult and shit

[grim jay]

My teeth are blessed. I never once had a single issue with one, no cavities, nothing. Wisdom teeth didnt come at all either

[golden loom]

also never do this btw, the day before my root canal procedure I watched a youtube video on how it is done and then I could not sleep

[balmy condor]

my wisdom teeth grew in great, but then over the years my teeth shifted a little

and my gums got angry

and so they've been slowly like growing over the tooth

[slate crown]

It was an awful experience I also HATE the feeling of gauze or cotton in my mouth, like, autism level uncontrollable reaction to that shit in my mouth, so the first few days when I had gauze to absorb blood I wanted to die

But I was very glad it was done

[grim jay]

If you think about it, your body tried to swallow a part of itself

[slate crown]

Long run things felt much better

[oak tangle]

I had a chin strap holding my face together

[golden loom]

have a friend that somehow had a 2nd wisdom tooth growing under one

[grim jay]

Same with cotton

[balmy condor]

my gag reflex is horrendous so some gauze slipped into my throat after they pulled the first tooth out, and I gagged and choked and my body was telling me I was going to fucking die so I was crying and shaking with a full blown panic attack for the next 3 teeth

overall great experience if you don't count that

[slate crown]

😳

[balmy condor]

and then they sat me up after the teeth came out and I started heaving for like 10 minutes straight cause the blood was too thick and that triggered my gag reflex as well

I just stood over a sink and drooled out

like I was a fucking fountain

that was also not ideal

but after that, pretty chill tbh

I get to eat like a baby for a week, my gf gets to feed me and say I'm going a great job

life is good ya know

[golden loom]

I had a sinus procedure where they like burned something inside my nose to try and fix it, and before that they had to put anethesia in my nose and that then dripped down into my throat, sedating my throat and I felt like I was choking and pretty much blacked out from panic

[balmy condor]

what's there to complain about

[brisk forge]

Nope. 🙈

[golden loom]

then I realized why the doctor asked me "are you prone to blacking out?" before we started and I just said no I have never blacked out

[balmy condor]

the first anesthesia shot numbed the entire left side of my nose

and I was like

uhhhhhhh

is this normal

and he's like yeah yeah that's fine sometimes it can get your eye too

and I'm like

OH

WONDERFUL

[main bobcat]

I look at my dentist in the eye

He's drilling inside a molar and I'm hitting the 👁️

[balmy condor]

yeah sometimes I do that to distract myself

but I was crying

so

couldn't really hold a staring contest

[main bobcat]

I had root canal surgery done on 3 teeth last year

One hurt a lot but the rest were ok

[balmy condor]

[tawny geyser]

Those are chill

[grim jay]

The one time I was close to that was when I got my teeth whitened

[balmy condor]

3 root canals is crazy

[grim jay]

Sitting in the chair for 45 min

[golden loom]

depends on if the sedation hits deep enough

[grim jay]

Forgot to take painkillers

They strongly suggested using before

[tawny geyser]

It’s 3 teeth, but every tooth can have 2-4 canals

[balmy condor]

nice

[grim jay]

Teeth whitening is literally suffering for beauty

Nowadays you get those fancy things without the peroxide or whatever its called

[golden loom]

looks shit aswell 💯

[grim jay]

If you overdo it yes

[rotund oak]

that doesnt happen anywhere unless there is a condition they have to treat outside that.E.g heart condition/poisoning from rotten teeth,then u might need pills

[earnest dust]

im looking at the guide and opener and for fatebound specifically we don't use ambush?

[golden loom]

you can if you have the deathstalker muscle memory

doesnt matter either way

[grim jay]

That sounds so disgusting ngl

[rotund oak]

you are big baby 😂

[golden loom]

either you garrote -> mutilate to build
or you ambush (if it crits u can rupture insta) -> garrote
either or is whatever

[grim jay]

Speaking of nice, arent teeth a fucking pain financially in america?

[rotund oak]

yup it is,its caused from neglect of teeth care or with age,its also not very rare for dentists to fail to see absesses inside the gums that swell and cause stuff like that

[balmy condor]

1600 for the 4 teeth

[golden loom]

jesus

[rotund oak]

including ''restoration'' or just removal?

[balmy condor]

that's the consult + removal

[rotund oak]

kinda expensive ngl

[balmy condor]

was 300ish each for the top 2 that weren't impacted and easy removals and 400ish for the bottom 2 that had some gum-issues

[golden loom]

I managed to run into all my wisdom teeth problem while I was still a student so it was free

[grim jay]

Wild. Only need to pay around here if they need to put you to sleep

[rotund oak]

think ive told u i had some issues with my teeth but my full removals were also 4 cause ive broke them at work.Total cost of removal was 300Euro but the teeth restoration gonna cost several thousands now(-2500-ish),,using 2 fake ones until i replace them with 2 actual attached with metalic gear on my upper right jaw

[balmy condor]

yeah my teeth in the last 2 months have been ~3k

I got some fillings done, a cleaning, the wisdom teeth

[grim jay]

That would be 20 Euro.

[golden loom]

might have to go pick up some schnitzel + bearnaise sauce for lunch to celebrate that its friday

[grim jay]

As long as its the first or second cleaning that year

[rotund oak]

thats the dentists we love to visit

[grim jay]

Well they get all the rest off your healthcare

[golden loom]

the real cost of going to the dentist is the 6 month queue

(thats why you call the emergency number if u actually need to get something done)

[grim jay]

Its the visit itself
I hate dentists

[rotund oak]

healthcare in the U.S is like Aliens,you never know but actually non existent

[golden loom]

I used to be terrified but honestly the latest wisdom teeth removal was so quick and painless that it changed my view on it

[grim jay]

Funny enough, if you get one in america yourself its roughly 600usd according to Chatgpt

Which isnt much more than you have to pay in germany anyways

Tho idk how good those are then again

[rotund oak]

ye those are basic,if u wanna do a surgery or somehting thats out of ur wallet

[grim jay]

The girls doing the cleaning at my dentist could work in a butchery

Then the dentist comes in to check

"your gums look a little irritated and are bleeding a bit, we might need to observe that."

GUESS WHAT

[rotund oak]

if ur gums bleed u got to take care

no bleeding allowed

[balmy condor]

jokes on you

my gums ALWAYS bleed

[rotund oak]

you are a big baby 🫶

[grim jay]

Take care of the tip of the sonic scraper sliding off your teeth into your gums before hearing a "oh, sorry" while you squirm in the seat

[golden loom]

next time just ask to get put under while they clean

[rotund oak]

very tolerant to pain but it sucks yeah

cant imagine the trauma on a kid thats actually scared

[balmy condor]

I'm a dentists worst nightmare, phobia of needles, awful gag reflex, bleeding gums

[grim jay]

Im his worst financial nightmare because he cant get any money out of me, checkups and cleaning aside

[rotund oak]

my mom has a gag reflex and needle phobia as well,im going with her when she visits the dentist 😂 (the bleeding gums translates to money for them so they kinda welcome that)

[rotund oak]

idk what im for him,his daughter's a nice piece though

wouldnt mind getting my teeth fixed again

[grim jay]

Wish I could say the same

Even his daughter is damn close to the age where she could be my mother

[austere radish]

is someone here playing the Cleave/Poison build in m+?
I loved it in S2

[balmy condor]

Basically no one

It’s probably somewhat playable maybe sometimes depending on things and stuff and comp and route and dungeon in high keys perhaps if you can play it well MAYBE

[runic hinge]

Maybe a streets

[balmy condor]

But generally speaking if you’re just asking “is someone here playing”

The answer is no

No one is playing that garbage

[austere radish]

im watching your video right now
Great Work! 🙂

[austere radish]

my heart

I love playing the poison build but well.. maybe not this season

[errant hawk]

The s3 tierset is custom for bleeds build only

[proper tangle]

How does the smart application of bleeds work on targets? If I rupture a target which i just recently ruptured, will it refresh that rupture and "waste" one target on indiscriminate target each time I press rupture on the main target with?
TLDR: Do I have to swap target when applying my garrote/rupture at the start of a pull?

[red schooner]

!carnage

[prisma monolith]

Indiscriminate Carnage Targetting and Swapping
TLDRMouseovers/Target swapping is optimal on 6 target, or 8+ targets, but not necessarily required

• The 2 Bleeds spread by carnage are smart and will prioritize mobs without the bleed. If everything already has bleeds it'll apply randomly
• You as the character are still casting the bleed against your target like normal, this is why people will sometimes use mouseover macros or swap targets

Swapping targets is situationally better, but can be ignored if you're having difficulties with it. Take 5 mob aoe as an example, your first garrote cast will apply to 3 targets (your target + 2 more). Regardless of if you swap or not, your second cast of garrote will hit your target, and then apply 2 more garrotes, prioritizing the mobs that do not have garrote. In very large aoe pulls (12 or more), a standard opener (garrote-garrote-rupture-rupture-garrote-garrote) will only apply 9 garrotes (3+2+2+2) and 5 ruptures (3+2) if you do not swap, losing you 3 garrotes and a rupture.

It is technically worse, but the situations in which you lose bleeds aren't very common; the lost ruptures/garrotes don't contribute much to your already flooded energy, you don't get additional scent of blood stacks, etc. The loss is purely the extra damage from those bleeds.

[spring hill]

hey guys, would anyone recommend a "minimum" amount of haste for M+ deathstalker? currently I have only 2.1k haste (getting extra 1% from nelf racial during night hours), last night I tried a +14 HoA and even though I had a haste flask on, ST still felt like somewhat big bottleneck for me, would consistently fall behind by 150-200 million damage to a ret pala on boss fights where no extra trash mobs were pulled

[muted fractal]

If i've crafted 720 Dagger, 720 wrists, what's next best craft?

[golden loom]

whatever slot you need to fill or whatever sims best, personally I crafted a neck last week when I had nothing else to slam crests into

but neck/ring is usually a decent option if you dont have myth pieces to upgrade

[muted fractal]

Neck is a good shout - my only champ piece left

[red schooner]

Haste isn't going to fix that. Our ST is just not the best in m+

[static glacier]

always you with the wierd discussions

wierd sexual tension with ur dentist ahh

[balmy condor]

Adding onto what goat said, there’s a good chance haste ain’t even your best stat for single target in the first place

[humble verge]

peepeepoopoo

EA cant even type their shit right dawg

[maiden sierra]

SKATE the in game store edition

[rocky condor]

Hey guys. Can someone tell me whats wrong here? It seems like i manage something wrong on soulbinder. https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/nAgDR2Fj4NqpC8vW?type=casts&fight=21&source=9&view=timeline

[marsh fjord]

Earlier today you posted the same thing dawg

Your opener is wrong,

Here lets take a look

at your shiv usage

[rocky condor]

Ye it was on my Chatline however i got onto my Phone and it Just send it directly lol

[marsh fjord]

You need to shiv 2 times in your DM window

[humble verge]

honestly, i saw someone as the fucking reaper as i logged off lol

i wonder how much he spent

[marsh fjord]

You are shivving 1 minut later. you shiv and then 8 seconds later again for FB. for DS its 11 seconds.

Your missing a lot of basic fundamentals at the moment. if i was you, go to youtube or wowhead and read up on guides.

[main bobcat]

Yes

[maiden sierra]

quite sad, ive never played a skate game, but from ive seen and heard from people that love the series, the game is a shell compared to previous titles. fuckton of features and content missing while the in game store is the only polished thing

[humble verge]

idk, you can do standing backflip on your board

kinda cool

[limpid trench]

Guess if there will be any preview of class changes tomorrow?

[cunning needle]

nothing for rogue

[humble verge]

ruh roh

[midnight atlas]

they might delete rogue and give it all to demon hunter at this point

[limpid trench]

Bro, be optimistic.

[midnight atlas]

wasnt this always like this?

[cunning needle]

good

[humble verge]

yeah but leddit and wowhead comments got mad

[limpid trench]

Ahaha, I thought so too.

[humble verge]

they wanted it to be easier

[midnight atlas]

so they want mythic trinkets doing LFR?

[cunning needle]

yes

they acutally would want that

why cant my rat alts get bis mythic gear. this is going to mean they will never get invites to any +10s

some random idiot redditor

[midnight atlas]

at this point they want the game to be like those private servers where u login and u buy all bis gear and kill a boar because nothing else matters

[humble verge]

yea?

[midnight atlas]

tbh i dont even have LFR prism so this patch was shit for me

should've rerolled long time ago or at least gear an alt

[red schooner]

Heroic for doing lfr is already a stupidly good reward

[cunning needle]

the only reasonable comment on that wowhead article is saying it should be account bound

[midnight atlas]

you only need 1 char that killed x boss to get loot on all

[sleek night]

Would yall be content with heroic raiding allowing mythic track items? Or are you all wanting specifically mythic to mythic

[cunning needle]

mythic to mythic

i think some gates need to be kept

[crude wigeon]

U shouldnt be able to get the items without killing the boss imo

[midnight atlas]

make it even harder, have giga dope trinkets that only drop in mythic raid

[cunning needle]

actually another reasonable compromise is

heroic and mythic coins

so you can choose to buy heroic and get mythic later once you kill it

[crude wigeon]

Why should someone be able to get something later on for free while you worked your ahh off

[rotund oasis]

when doing a non dm KB, do I line shiv up with the back half of KB or just send together to keep the CD timing in sync?

[red schooner]

Back half, it'll be in sync anyhow

[rotund oasis]

thanks

[marsh fjord]

I wouldnt even know what to pick from cartel

I have mythic atenna, gonna get mythic prism soon. have mythic lily

I geuss i take loom dagger

or nexus king one

[red schooner]

DH boots

Good pick

[marsh fjord]

Yeah i geuss

i have the HC version one but for sure

then i still have one chip to go 😄

Mabye a ring or a neck idk

[humble verge]

wouldnt NK neck

be a good one

[red schooner]

Myth version is like, 1.2% gain for me

[humble verge]

if you can like

change around stats

with rings i guess

[marsh fjord]

Yeah i think NK neck is pretty good

i currently have a mastery/vers neck

Would give me 3k more mastery + 1500 more crit.

[humble verge]

https://tenor.com/view/big-mama-martin-lawrence-dance-bounce-momma-gif-4944948

is it big mommas neck

[marsh fjord]

yeah

[static glacier]

come back to wow, i miss u

https://tenor.com/view/sad-cat-gif-6906939104301495025

[winged sun]

I miss u too

[main bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-water-bottle-drinks-fajne-gif-21488405

[winged sun]

Oh nvm

[winged sun]

https://youtu.be/0DVj2iskQFs?si=ZC3KlHCcDaTKgrAw

[static glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-walking-cat-come-cute-cat-walking-gif-8692571989328773745

[onyx coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/roomba-cat-gif-19926065

[humble verge]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-roomba-roomba-omba-cute-gif-17282550

[austere radish]

!spreadsheet

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[static glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/roomba-cat-nfg-funny-animals-idc-gif-12100896

[dawn seal]

is offhand worst upgrade just for rogues

or for all classes

[deep gyro]

Dual wielders i’d assume

Because casters normally want a crafted offh with embellish and myth mh

[little tulip]

unless there's a cantrip they're not valued highly

[golden loom]

Slightly better for something like fury warrior since 2 handers have more stats and fury offhand is a 2nd 2 hander

[grim jay]

Idk how it is for monks tbf

[normal mist]

I've been playing one and having the time of my life

Which also brought the worst in me out

[latent gazelle]

Off hands are generally stats sticks for every class unless the spell or ability says “Off hand” which I think only enhance has one?

[wanton spear]

as i'm finding out, fury war requires a good offhand too

[grim jay]

Monks are really fun, all specs

Just kinda at the mercy of balancing bigtime

[normal mist]

I've heard!
I'm playing brewmaster so I'm already mad at random dos pugs, that kick everything but what needs to be kicked

[dawn trout]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[kind dome]

what happens if you get a lucky coin a third time between your dms? do I just sit on my next dm until kb comes off cd?

[red schooner]

Sometimes I see a cast bar and send the kick without thinking

[red schooner]

Normally its best to just hold so things line up as they should. With the exception for if you can send another cast in before the boss dies.

[normal mist]

I failed a prio8 because before the last boss, literally no one interrupted the fireball volleys

But hey

Look at that overall :3

[oak tangle]

wait how did that cause a fail

like i know wipe

but how many times did you wipe

[normal mist]

3

Wait no

More

We had like 30 deaths total

I died 3 times :)))

Or 4, idk, there were pulls I saw the entire group die like 3 times

[red schooner]

I was gonna say, that damage should be ample for an 8

[normal mist]

Exactly

[humble verge]

ffs

warlock raider in my guild almost got poached

i thought we were finally getting rid of his annoying ass

but he declined

[pliant remnant]

Are they doing anything about that rogue you have though

[full ingot]

both platers are showing a corruption

[coral ibex]

man i wish our warlock was good enough to get poached

[oak tangle]

so uhh

i just depleted a 6

[normal mist]

How do you feel homie

[oak tangle]

i feel liek the tank violated me

[normal mist]

LOL

[oak tangle]

he lost threat on the duo boss of floodgate

and just let it run around

708 ilvl

btw

meanwhile us dps are 690s

[pliant remnant]

Shoulda waited for him to gather smh my head

[full ingot]

okay I'm having an issue. my DPS stinks in my opinion for being 700ilvl. the raider training dummy, im getting about 3 mil DPS but sim says I should be 4 mill anyone that can help me

[oak tangle]

it was like 1 min into the fight

[pliant remnant]

Not long enough

[pliant remnant]

The Wowhead guide can help you

[oak tangle]

im just trying to get heroic gear to catalyse for tier pieces mayne

[pliant remnant]

Also, keep in mind you're probably simming full consumes and raid buffs etc

If you want actual rotational help, it'd probably be easier to post logs from a raid boss or summin

[full ingot]

Ill check again but I believe Im doing everything correctly I just feel stupid right now

[oak tangle]

^ yeh im happy to peep some logs

[full ingot]

how do I share logs. guild runs them every time we raid. and that really hurts my feeling

[main bridge]

Just link them. Why do logs hurt your feelings?

[full ingot]

cause it says Im not even 21%

[oak tangle]

we'll change that

[full ingot]

of other rogues

[oak tangle]

🙂

[main bridge]

Well that’s probably really easy to fix

[full ingot]

this is last heroic

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/6nCVQmc74vkYZMtf

thank you all

[oak tangle]

how many gilded crests do you have?

#1 craft a 720 dagger

[full ingot]

9 right now

[oak tangle]

go spam somes 7's dawg

[full ingot]

7's?

[oak tangle]

mythic+ 7's give 10 gilded

[full ingot]

okay

[pliant remnant]

Well, quick little tip

Don't pot in execute into downtime

[oak tangle]

you need 60 total, you will see a mega increase with a 720 weapon alone

[pliant remnant]

[main bridge]

Bountiful delves give like 7 gilded too if you can handle an 11

[full ingot]

okay

[oak tangle]

your opener is good in terms of order of cd's but you need to back it up with a bunch of envenoms

[full ingot]

okay Ill work in it

[full ingot]

I see the big gap is with no damage

okay

[oak tangle]

on loom in particular (the one im looking at cause it's close to patchwork) you also aren't doing your intermediary kingsbanes

[full ingot]

thank you got raid tonight Ill post it up tomorrow after going over this info

[full ingot]

okay Ill focus it

or I should say pay more attention to it

[oak tangle]

if you don't i suggest finding weakauras and tracking your kingsbane cooldown

it alternates, deathmark + kingbane window, into kingsbane, into deathmark + kingsbane again

[full ingot]

yeah I just downloaded it. Im using Whyspers

[pliant remnant]

Also wtf happened at the end of that Loomithar

There's like 40 seconds of you pressing nothing

[full ingot]

oh DC on computer side

[oak tangle]

most of the work is done inside our cd windows

[pliant remnant]

Ah, fair fair

[oak tangle]

so if you can get those right, and without delay you'll be well on the way

[full ingot]

thank you all

[oak tangle]

but legitimately, that weapon will do you heaps

so if you have time try and get those 60 gilded

[full ingot]

Ill start chasing them

[pliant remnant]

Also, there's a bunch of places where you keep re-applying Garrote

[dawn seal]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/CF2XcvDTQBR1ybNJ?fight=8&type=damage-done&source=7 I think this is skill issue

but is it skill issue

[full ingot]

yeah I freak out and just reapply it but the WA should help with being able to see it

[pliant remnant]

Yeh, it'll glow Garrote for you when it's in pandemic

[oak tangle]

if no glow, no go

[pliant remnant]

kind of a dead builder outside of refreshing it

[full ingot]

I accept that

[vast patio]

does anyone have a link to that deathmark plater modifier? I think I accidentally deleted it.

[oak tangle]

what is deathmark player modifier?

[vast patio]

Oop

[main bridge]

Plater probably

[pliant remnant]

They didn't, but Assa still does nutty AoE so

[vast patio]

Turns their health bar pink pmuch

[main bridge]

!plater

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[main bridge]

Whispyrs plater does it

[pliant remnant]

I know Whispyr's has a glow for DM

[main bridge]

Probably others too

[oak tangle]

wait why do we need a deathmark plater

[full ingot]

the platers on this list show croupted

[oak tangle]

caustic i get

[vast patio]

Death stalkers mark

[oak tangle]

but why dm

[pliant remnant]

Dunno, bro is tabbing off targets in DM to bleed them up or summin

[full ingot]

corrupted even

[oak tangle]

im getting baited by poor naming

XD

[pliant remnant]

Oh

[vast patio]

I just woke up and my phone is being stupid ;.;

[main bridge]

I think you may be doing something wrong. I am using Whispyrs and it works

[waxen oyster]

people really act like a few minor bugs prevents assa aoe from being stupid

[oak tangle]

i may or may not consistently be doing less interrupts than casters in my keys

[pliant remnant]

Make sure you're not importing the WeakAuras into Plater, or the Plater profiles into WeakAuras

[full ingot]

yeah I tried to import it and it says

[pliant remnant]

This would 100% be me if I didn't use a focus kick macro

[pliant remnant]

PLATERRRRRRRR

That is WeakAuras, good sir

[full ingot]

okay first time really using it

been a tank all my life

[pliant remnant]

If you want WeakAuras, get the first thing in the list

https://wago.io/a4RNXiGN8

This one

[full ingot]

got that one

[oak tangle]

plater mods are more for keys than raid

imo

[dawn seal]

can someone point out my mistakes when they have some free tiem

[oak tangle]

will take a look you snuck it in i didn't see

[oak tangle]

you got cdr bug, and casted your second kb before cb, what happened between 6:15 and 6:38?

does it take 20s to reach boss?

[pliant remnant]

also late vanish here

[oak tangle]

you also use a prism for 3 min (fine) and then 4:30 dm (not ideal) as you coulda had a 18 stack in execute at 6 min

potentially was worth holding your 4:30 dm a little bit too

so hit it sub 35%

[dawn seal]

Ohh

Do u think ig these are reasons for blue

Or I need more gear

[oak tangle]

gear will help a bit, but it's about optimising the boss now

[dawn seal]

[oak tangle]

so double stepping boss during knockback, aresting movement with the phase leap and cloakign the wall

will minimise downtime on it

[dawn seal]

I think I went wrong way

Used cape ina bad way

Had to take tour to narnia

[oak tangle]

we get the luxury of being able to use the extra action button as a movement ability

cloak op

[vocal cradle]

Had no clue we can cloak the wall

[pliant remnant]

You'd know if you just got the raid WeakAura pack

'cause it says "Use Cloak" in the middle of your screen when the wall's up

[oak tangle]

i feel like an imposter

as i personally havent even stepped into mythic yet

[midnight atlas]

well in mythic you can get even more lost when boss teleports during last phase lol

[oak tangle]

sad times when it's come to me pugging normal soul hunters to get some boots

makes my 99 on heroic loom feel bad

[oak tangle]

sadness

[midnight atlas]

wound poison working on miniboss in halls?

[pure moth]

We dont change to wound

[oak tangle]

yes but i'd be unsurprised if it wasn't just better to run damage potions, idk

[severe meadow]

Can also shadowstep it

[severe meadow]

Yes, can swap back right after you kill

[clever cloak]

What is currently best race for dps assa rogue?

[umbral sigil]

Tauren

[clever cloak]

ty

[main bridge]

[prime hull]

!fok

[prisma monolith]

Fok Conditions Post-Buff
Fan of Knives as a generator to replace ambush/mutilate:

• Baseline 3+ targets, -1 if talented into momentum of despair and thrown precision, +1 if talented into vicious venoms, +1 if talented into blindside. (Generally 5 with raid build, 3 with Bleed m+, 2 with Hybrid m+)
  Fan of Knives with Clear the Witnesses Up:
• Baseline 2+ targets, -1 if lingering darkness is up or you aren't talented into vicious venoms. With Vicious Venoms casting during lingering darkness is dps neutral.
  Fan of Knives with Darkest Night Up:
• Only on 2+ targets, or without Vicious Venoms talented. This is also a very very minor optimization

The most important to remember is the generator rules, clear the witnesses and darkest night optimizations can be effectively ignored as they are not meaningful DPS improvements

[prime hull]

what about for fatebound ^

[fallow canopy]

5t, base is 3 + vv + blindside is 5

[coral ibex]

thats just troll on any key above like a 12

just swap to wound when the cast is coming up

block a few hundred million in healing

swap back

i swear if details showed blocked healing and your damage meter was literally 2x the next dps, you would swap

unless you can beat the 2nd heal cast, a temporary swap is worth

[main bridge]

if you pull the mini boss to the middle of the room it's a lot easier

some people are still trying to pull all the adds behind the wall which is too slow to benefit from funnel

but in the middle of the room you can go HAM and you kill the boss way faster

[golden loom]

especially since losing out on spatter is only losing out on padd dam

since it doesnt funnel

[oak tangle]

can i get a log review? https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Z2DKfr6TcWb4GhVx?fight=53&type=damage-done

[golden loom]

so if u block 10 gazillion healing with wound its ofc worth

[golden loom]

vanish before dm if u have trinket macrod to it

[marsh fjord]

Yes it works.

[oak tangle]

i compare myself to kinkou https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/compare/Z2DKfr6TcWb4GhVx/XR1P69yB73tCYWF8?fight=53%2C7&type=auras&source=409%2CKinkou

i wonder if i woulda been close with pot / pi

[marsh fjord]

The thing is. Your netherprism wasnt 18 stacks when you vanished around 3 minutes again

Also you shoulda hold your pot

for that 3 minutes

If you would shiv - vanish - DM and on the vanish netherprism

you woulda had it back on the 3 minutes

[oak tangle]

i am curious, why i seem to have alot more peak on my kb's than others

on the second ones that is

[marsh fjord]

The solo's?

[oak tangle]

ye

[marsh fjord]

Let me check

[golden loom]

well KB is all crit rng

[marsh fjord]

Your KB's arent that peaked

[oak tangle]

oh i tihnk i know, might the second one be when the run out bs is?

[marsh fjord]

completely normal

Not that it matters a lot

but your KB at

2:24

was low compared to the others

[oak tangle]

i don't mean just kb the spell, i mean the total dps

[marsh fjord]

You meant the KB window?

[oak tangle]

i just remember looking at a few top logs and they have a smoother dps profile

where mine is more up and more down

it could just be that the scaling looks weird cause i dont slap as hard with pot in execute maybe

[marsh fjord]

Im looking at your windows now. but i gotta check some other rogues hold on

[oak tangle]

for reference to what i mean

[marsh fjord]

Also. iwhen going over your KB did you know your second shiv in your opener is to late?

You cast it at 8 seconds and then at 19 seconds

which means you missed 3 seconds of a DM window

[oak tangle]

yeah, i've been too lazy to re do my WA's so i've still got the timings from last seasons kb's

where we shived to cover kb

i've been getting by by checking the duration left on shiv

like on the button lol

[marsh fjord]

On your first solo KB, your shiv also comes to late.

[oak tangle]

yeah, likely same reasons XD

time to update it i guess

[marsh fjord]

But shivving to late is an issue to those peaks

Actually im wrong about that

On your solo KB you shivved correct.

I forgot that KB gets 4 seconds added because of tier

[oak tangle]

ok good, the WA i have should be fine for solo kb's

but you are right about the dm, as my kb aura doesn't take into account that

[marsh fjord]

If you shivved your DM properly. and hold pot for your 18 stack netherprism in execute. you woulda had a 99 atleast there

[oak tangle]

yah, i mean it was rank 250 already so can't complain, but yeah

[marsh fjord]

You're doing quite good.

The DM shiv + the pot is the only thing i noticed

Yeah in all your DM's your doing the same thing

you just shiv 10 seconds later instead of 8

but for the rest its good.

Also remember. if you only have 1 pot usage you use the pot in execute or on a damage amp

if you have 2 pots. you use on start and on execute.

[oak tangle]

not with lust? assumign it's not in execute / the amp

[marsh fjord]

Pot with lust does absolutely nothing

Well it does something

But it will do way more in execute then with lust

[oak tangle]

hmm ok, will give that a go next raid

[marsh fjord]

As example if you take a look at the top logs of mythic fractilus you see them all using a pot with DM in execute.

[celest ruin]

wait why do i have lily there instead of prism

[marsh fjord]

Where?

[oak tangle]

is heroic not myth

[celest ruin]

the logs memz linked

[oak tangle]

as to why, maybe you thought kill timer would be sub 3 min

[celest ruin]

ah its frostmourne kinkou, thats my alt i dont have prism 🙁

[marsh fjord]

Depends on your items but my mythic lily does more DPS on short fights then my prism does.

[oak tangle]

what server is your main?

[celest ruin]

barthilas

its kinkou again dont ask why i also get confused

[oak tangle]

lol

[golden loom]

I used on pull!

[marsh fjord]

well going over lorgs i see most people do. but i dont think it matters a lot.

But i remeber whispyr telling me if you get one pot usage

it does more in execute.

[golden loom]

someone sadly beat my log today tho

[celest ruin]

5:15 is the enrage on frac, right?

[golden loom]

this guy got even more crazy rng than me somehow

[marsh fjord]

I mean you could pot very early and then get other pot on the 5 minutes mark. but most guilds kill it before then

[oak tangle]

i'm having a brain fade right now, our gcd is locked at 1s right?

[golden loom]

yes

[marsh fjord]

you are gaming tho

[oak tangle]

ok, gonna do some scuffed shit to get the dm timings in my kb aura

[golden loom]

just bug out

[marsh fjord]

The second log on that picture i showed above

[earnest remnant]

time to tell wclog to purge all parses where tier bugs out

[marsh fjord]

is actually you 😄

[golden loom]

100% of fract kills are removed then

legit bugs every fight

either positively on negatively

[marsh fjord]

Also you coulda vanished 30 seconds earlier with a solo KB on that fight uwu

and had the vanish up at 4;30

for big dam

But your kill timer is 4:39

[golden loom]

I mean my tierset bugged out on 3 min cds

cant really see the future

[marsh fjord]

you cant???

Also didnt check

but at the 3 minutes mark

was the boss already in execute range?

[earnest remnant]

purge em all

[golden loom]

yeah I got double cds in execute

[celest ruin]

at 3:10 their boss is at sub 30% health while ours is at 40%

[marsh fjord]

If i would look at my sim, my mythic lily would be better on fracti then my netherprism but everyone is doing netherprism

[oak tangle]

3 am brain fog, but we want to shiv near 8s left on dm cause it doesn't matter, but we would want to shiv prior to between 6-8s on the kb so we get the last 3 ticks? if we shivved just prior to 8 is a missplay?

[marsh fjord]

You just want to coveryour entire window of DM

[oak tangle]

i mean specific to timings, cause kb is a 2s tickrate

[marsh fjord]

I mean. if you didnt shiv at 8 seconds the next tick would be at 6

so you gotta shiv between 8/6

[oak tangle]

yah

[marsh fjord]

But on your deathmark openings you dont care about KB

you just want to shiv 8 seconds later

[oak tangle]

does dm dots have a tickrate, or they are hasted arent htey

[marsh fjord]

and get the entire DM

[marsh fjord]

That i dont know.

[oak tangle]

i presume hasted

[marsh fjord]

i dont think it has a tickrate

[oak tangle]

all good, im jsut overthinking my aura again XD

[marsh fjord]

Just make sure you shiv your entire DM

and your good to go

[oak tangle]

yah, that's what i was adding in,

the red line for dm shiv

ty for your help

[marsh fjord]

you're welcome

[oak tangle]

does shiv pandemic

[normal mist]

no

[oak tangle]

didn't think so, ty

[jolly vault]

anyone have the ideal dmg spread of the bleed build on hand

[coral ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/laugh-lol-cant-stop-laughing-gif-14341553

[main bridge]

Damage breakdowns are a lot worse for analyzing performance than a log, but top three should probably be crimson tempest, caustic spatter, and rupture in keys

[normal mist]

CT - Caustic - Bleeds - etc

[jolly vault]

dw I realize, just for comparisons sake ❤️

[normal mist]

10 priory

That was almost 10M overall

[prime hull]

when you have to use 704 netherprism over 723 lily

[eternal bramble]

Is dungeon slice a good way to sim M+? If I remember correctly, it was recommended here earlier in this expansion.

[oak tangle]

yeah it works for sin

[red schooner]

It is

[eternal bramble]

Nice, thanks.

[rotund oak]

whispyr's wa just highlights shiv window

actually its lisonna's but ye

[oak tangle]

i like to make my own

my favourite past time is to ask LE how to do weaaura stuff

[spice spire]

Yeah but she’s super helpful