#assassination

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humble verge
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why is rodgers on the steelers

young flame
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!macro

prisma monolithBOT
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With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

viscid spear
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MH yes, 720

severe meadow
viscid spear
mint urchin
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How is prism in M+? Does it generally get enough stacks to just send it with DM?

coral ibex
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yes

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its very good

humble verge
inner cave
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What is the best way to use the prism? Wait until the second mark to use it.?

gray raven
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Just send it

inner cave
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or every time you have 15 marks use it?

coral ibex
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bind to vanish for fb dm for deathstalker

viscid spear
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Outlaw phase maybe?

coral ibex
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our biggest padder forgot to swap off single target talents

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i got to cleave

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misplayed a bit could have gotten a bit more

severe meadow
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I love heroic reclear

viscid spear
haughty flicker
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i forgor to get raid buff

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still got 99 on plexus

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what if i had it fuck

severe meadow
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Imma just get it for mythic

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too lazy for heroic

haughty flicker
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ye was mythic

humble verge
random comet
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y'all think we'll see bug fixes before the end of next year?

severe meadow
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fuck man I wish we were doing dimmy so I could try and fix the parse on it

spice spire
humble verge
worthy rose
ebon cloud
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
slim copper
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not seeing updated pins breaks my heart every tuesday

haughty flicker
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so uh

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i didnt know the cd bug could trigger multiple times in a fight

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had it happen twice on loom

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very fun

torn herald
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I am impatient lol not a good reason but still a reason

glad ferry
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That... was the joke.....

old obsidian
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god sake 3% more damage pumpim

balmy condor
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yeh

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helps to have 3% over everyone else

old obsidian
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change my neck and one ring biss

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pumpin

haughty flicker
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i wish i had time to get the buff before raid

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f parses

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imagine if i had 3% more

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those numbers would be like

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3% higher or something

balmy condor
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could be

coral ibex
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every week araz pain

humble verge
old obsidian
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mythic

old obsidian
balmy condor
haughty flicker
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my loomithar is always scuffed

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fuck i hate that fight

coral ibex
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transition was like within 10s of DM

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so i just held and still got 2 in execute

balmy condor
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cause 2 min timer

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cause deathstalker

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cause forgor to swap

drifting cloud
humble verge
humble verge
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and it also being your first kill

viscid spear
coral ibex
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so around 4:10 i notice i have triple cdr on dm

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prob should have just sent it naked

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might have been able to r1

gray hazel
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!barrel

prisma monolithBOT
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Rik Reverb Barrels (and similar spread cleave in raid)

  • Not your problem.
  • Assassination is the worst target swapping spec in the game, and we have no tools available to deal with the situation of priority spread cleave. Caustic can reach sometimes but similar to fire mage, the boss needs to be on top of the adds, causing caustic to often be out of range.
  • If you're truly hellbent on swapping to barrels, hold your nearest darkest night and just slam a darkest night envenom into them and pray. If you're quick enough you can also pool combo points/energy and cast a rupture on a barrel to try and caustic off of them. This still will not do good barrel damage, again, the spec is doomed for it
  • Another possible option would be talenting into Crimson Tempest by untalenting Bone Spike and Doomblade. This CAN TECHNICALLY provide a bit of barrel damage, but the spawns need to be immaculate and any difficult spawns will just result in no barrel damage again.
    With all that, the best advice we have for swapping barrels:
  • Swap to Subtlety.
severe meadow
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"Where Antenna"

coral ibex
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5 weeks killing loomithar mythic

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0 mythic antenna drops

balmy condor
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5 weeks of loom kills no agi dagger

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send help

coral ibex
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i got one but

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i got a m+ myth track weapon in vault

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week 1

severe meadow
coral ibex
severe meadow
timber pawn
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first loom kill we dropped 2 daggers and an antenna, was not in due to being at work late

coral ibex
timber pawn
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am only rogue in guild

humble verge
severe jacinth
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do i hold energy for sanguine blades in m+ on the bosses?

main bridge
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No

waxen oyster
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We up 3 ilvls overall garf

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good night so far

main bridge
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I lost every roll in raid except for a transmog roll

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I’m crashing out

viscid spear
waxen oyster
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we dont do rolls

severe meadow
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I'll take the 97

waxen oyster
severe meadow
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6:09

waxen oyster
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oh didnt get another dm

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i assume

severe meadow
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I had like a few seconds of dm

waxen oyster
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not bad

severe meadow
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I am not playing Sub again xd

coral ibex
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no more sub on the page

haughty flicker
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based

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although forgeweaver we wont talk about

coral ibex
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i dont know how you're supposed to do damage as deathstalker without DM in amp

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but none of the top logs hold it for amp

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i just suck

gloomy heart
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do i gear my rog yes or no

waxen oyster
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damn i griefed my last cd set

haughty flicker
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are there any top ds logs on forge even

coral ibex
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yes

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go look

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i swear shindig played dsm

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and i copied his lorrg

haughty flicker
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if he did its not top 100

coral ibex
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bruh

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what did i copy

balmy condor
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DSM on forge?

haughty flicker
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didnt actually show what i meant to gg

main bridge
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Trolled

severe meadow
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125 is DS

balmy condor
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that's cooked

haughty flicker
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but yeah nobody is playing deathstalker on forge

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because its cooked

waxen oyster
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oh i got an 89

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sending my cb on piss on last burn

coral ibex
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yea

oak tangle
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EZ moeny Australia is resembling a first world country again

coral ibex
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i must have misclicked

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tbh

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i hotswapped off sub

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during the pull timer

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was a bit of a panic tab and copy

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i thought it was weird but

dreamy quail
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is there a soft cap for crit in sin? like 40%? Im looking at sims, but figured I would ask

coral ibex
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i just committed

waxen oyster
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@coral ibex i hit 715 club

coral ibex
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big

waxen oyster
coral ibex
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lookin like my caustic fb sim

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im just lucky there's basically no leather in my raid

snow zealot
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I'm not getting the cdr from 4p some times today. Is this new or was I never noticing it before?

knotty vapor
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hm, interesting first step into mythic

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the duality of man

coral ibex
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"known" to be "fixed" by blizz

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its not fixed

snow zealot
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I only knew of the extra cd bug ty for info

waxen oyster
half tartan
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double on use feels so good on ST, got some sick parses

waxen oyster
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That sounds beyond cursed

rotund oak
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more like an aff lock choked on sukuna

half tartan
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i got the double cd a few times

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but i feel like waiting ti 1:30 is better cause trinket line up

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thankfully no non procs

knotty vapor
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suddenly realizing those times when it felt like my kingsbane came up way too early were because it actually did

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i had no idea that was a thing

balmy condor
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that is currently the main bug on assa

knotty vapor
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no wonder my damage varies wildly on random pulls

lost nexus
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I remember the good old days when Blizzard were still making fun spells like Zekimal's Aggrieving Wound Poison

knotty vapor
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do we know the repro for it or is it just random?

balmy condor
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so it has travel time

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and it gets a little confused

runic hinge
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Aren’t we all

balmy condor
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I'm not confused at all, I know damn well I like men

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@spice spire hey

runic hinge
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@spice spire hey

main bridge
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@spice spire hey

rotund oak
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@spice spire hey

cunning needle
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@spice spire hey

coral ibex
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@spice spire hey

spice spire
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?

runic hinge
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ladies and gentlemen, we gottem

maiden rover
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@spice spire hey

tawny geyser
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Antenna is insane upgrade in Sim.
But I might get it someday in raid, meanwhile Lily won't drop anytime soon again. hmm..

haughty flicker
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I mean you'd rather have a prism anyway than lily

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Antenna 20000000%

rotund oak
tawny geyser
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Simmed again...lol
Chest better I guess 😂

zealous cosmos
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I don't do much m+, but what is the state of sin in key? I feel like I do 0 ST and my aoe isn't that insane to compensate

rotund oak
haughty flicker
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You can get a chest from a million places

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Definitely take one of the trinkets

tawny geyser
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Yeah of course, I know that - but it's funny that chest sims higher than a fkin antenna

haughty flicker
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Ye already having a 723 passive trinket does drop the value

runic hinge
zealous cosmos
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I feel like 10mil isn't really that high tho

rotund oak
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it isnt

tawny geyser
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Yeah, if I take Antenna now then I gotta keep using my 710 Lily and drop the 723 Pacemaker.
Hmm, tough choices.

zealous cosmos
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I play with Hunter and DK, they destroy me in aoe and st

haughty flicker
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Well those are the two most broken classes in the game so

rotund oak
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aoe hunter.. yeah its fine but what hunter

haughty flicker
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Bm hunter aoe is absolutely insane

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But mm is still pretty good too afaik

zealous cosmos
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BM DR I think

rotund oak
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yup ik bm superstrong after buffs

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dunno if thats the case with any hunter spec though

twin hull
golden loom
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First socket of the season pepe_sad

dim meteor
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hey quick question if i vanish then deathmark do i use anything inbetween like ambust or garrote or straight ambush then deathmark

zinc galleon
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!trink

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!macro

prisma monolithBOT
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With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

lost nexus
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Man this game sucks.. why did they remove Jafar's Slimy Shiv?

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I found this spell was useful for self healing actions in pet battles

buoyant herald
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I love the commitment to this bit

dim meteor
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say the begining of the fight

balmy condor
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for fatebound?

dim meteor
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yes

balmy condor
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vanish doesn't do anything other than flip coins on fatebound

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so there's nothing you need to cast

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you can vanish shiv or vanish deathmark or vanish kingsbane

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doesn't matter

dim meteor
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kk

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thank you

balmy condor
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np

lost nexus
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labubu

zinc galleon
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!prism

hearty seal
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no pins
starting week 5 with no fixes, I suppose

waxen oyster
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starting week 5 with big ilvl gains

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got like 3 overall

golden loom
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Guess im sending my 90 crests into helm and prism and not crafting a shitty ring or upgrading belt garf

hearty seal
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meh just myth-track shoulders
probably time to replace belt tho, I can spare 30 gilded now

waxen oyster
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based mythic prism

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also trinket twins

golden loom
hearty seal
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also hopefully boots today...esp since every single person who could contest me for them quit, so if they drop, I win by default

nova kelp
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but... i don't wana

waxen oyster
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so i could go to next number

nova kelp
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everything in flood scares me

golden loom
waxen oyster
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bruh i dont have enough gilded even if i got more gear

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shoulders are 3/6 gloves 2/6

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and i still have 2 sparks

golden loom
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3/6 is the big upgrade level

hearty seal
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hmmm
gotta get the doods together for Taza HM at some point
but probably not this week, they're burnt out hard

golden loom
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So send ur remaining into gloves

waxen oyster
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wdym big upgrade level

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like it gives more stat?

hearty seal
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+4 ilvls instead of +3

waxen oyster
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🤔

golden loom
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Going from 2/6 to 3/6 is a +4 ilvl jump

waxen oyster
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or i could hold for next week

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but yeah

golden loom
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3/6 -> 4/6 is for example+3

waxen oyster
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oh yeah

fathom lintel
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Should I use Myth Lily and Myth prism over HC antena and one Myth on-use if it sims better? Or we don't do double on assa?

waxen oyster
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5/6 is 720 isnt it

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casual 6 jump

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oh wait

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im stupid 3/6 is 714 4/6 is 717

golden loom
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707 > 710 > 714 > 717 > 720 > 723

waxen oyster
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like to me its crazy

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how i still havent used 2 sparks so even if i get total beans vaults

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i can still get decent ups

tawny geyser
golden loom
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Yeah even if I miss next week again I can still upgrade shoulders/belt or craft ring or maybe I get a myth wep to upgrade

tawny geyser
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Ok fuck it, then I take Antenna

hearty seal
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oh right, dinars will be a thing
in what, three weeks?

golden loom
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Well dont think a date is confirmed

waxen oyster
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the funny thing about undermine

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is how useless dinars were

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since 2/3 of the good items were off gally

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jastor/eye

hearty seal
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yeah it'd be way easier to get good stuff this time

waxen oyster
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I mean for me

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only things i can get from dinars are myth soulhunter boots if i still dont have

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and ig antenna for minor gain over pace

golden loom
waxen oyster
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i mean i insta bought jastor

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like the second we killed gally

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didnt drop but yeah

golden loom
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Yeah I insta bought it, killed it 7 times never saw drop

waxen oyster
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Literally looted the mount saw no rogue loot so i hearthed and bought jastor

golden loom
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Same garf

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Mount on prog kill EZ

waxen oyster
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i got prism our first frac

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life is good

golden loom
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I also dont think we ever got house of cards to drop?

hearty seal
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but honestly I don't care enough, I figure I'll have hero boots regardless unless my luck is at 0%, and there's no chance in hell for mythic SH for me anyway
as for Antenna...idk, I'll probably stick to pacemaker
if anything I'd rather want myth logic gate lmao
but it won't be in dinar shop, most likely

waxen oyster
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i bought mine too lmao

golden loom
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Eye of kezan dropped 4 weeks in a row tho

waxen oyster
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my alt dh has hc reshii boots

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while main has normal

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i cant complain today

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leg token and loom dagger

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easy crest slam

golden loom
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Wait my dinar purchases were sprocket cape, jastors and HoC but I guess I got kezan cause noone wanted it?

waxen oyster
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kinda fucked my own cd though so only purple paul

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we need to kill frac without a monk tmrw

golden loom
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Cause I did have kezan but idk how I got it

waxen oyster
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pray for me

hearty seal
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whole tier without monk
smh

waxen oyster
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no our monk quit

supple galleon
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Why does 710 netherprism have to sim so much higher than 723 lily 🙁 feels so bad taking from vault wit those choices.

hearty seal
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had one for the previous two seasons...

waxen oyster
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Yeah idk you know ranged will insta be up in arms if dh buff was missing.

hardy dawn
balmy condor
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sounds like you should pick the mastery/haste ring from the raid

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what's the issue with that

runic hinge
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People are just skeptical of robots and tbh I dont blame them but when the singularity comes they and their posterity will not be spared

static glacier
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is cooked

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why is it simming the myth wep without ur embelished dagger in offhand

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you need to redo this sim with everforged stabber selected as offhand too so it can sim it there

knotty vapor
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man i really killed it today in mythic manaforge omega

nova kelp
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fuck now I'm curious if I've ever popped off in lfr

knotty vapor
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if you've ever done your rotation with 53% accuracy you've popped off in lfr

waxen oyster
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i was 3rd on my no gear pally

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using single button

knotty vapor
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my guild made me switch to bigwigs and it auto logs in lfr

golden loom
knotty vapor
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so now i got some sick parses

static glacier
golden loom
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Havent killed dimmy yet Bedge

knotty vapor
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lfr dimmy harder than rwf dimmy tbh

golden loom
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Also didnt know salhadaar didnt have platforms in LFR so sent cds and suddenly he was in damage amp kekman

nova kelp
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noones killed lfr dimmy

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unironically the hardest boss ever

static glacier
knotty vapor
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no u didn't

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fuck off

nova kelp
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LIES AND SLANDER

knotty vapor
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mf just comin in here makin shit up

nova kelp
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post a pov video

static glacier
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it was a long road

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we had many progress wipes

nova kelp
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no pov video, no dice
logs are just lies

static glacier
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but we did eventually defeat the all devouring

static glacier
knotty vapor
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you guys play fatebound because of its superior single target damage, i play it because it makes money noises when i envenom

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we are not the same

floral glade
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dunno what to take, already got astral antenna HC and Lily (HC)

static glacier
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v simple choice for once=

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everything other than chest is worthless except socket

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coulda purchased a boe chest for like 900k but 900k for a socket ain't it

red sonnet
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cn-retail reset is about 16 hours later 🙁 and i would like to clear Normal/Heroic RAID 1-6 and Mythic1&3 to decide

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hope there will be something good, as the blizz always counters 🙁

red schooner
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Good plan.

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I'm waiting to receive my third antenna today

halcyon flame
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Good morning ,I have mithic belt an mithic dagger in vault ,sims say to take belt

red schooner
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Which I'll likely destroy

halcyon flame
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is it a good idea ?

red sonnet
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antenna

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where is my antenna

red schooner
halcyon flame
golden loom
red sonnet
coral walrus
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now that after years i managed to buy prism off some scalper, how do i use it? 😄

halcyon flame
golden loom
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Bruh moment

red sonnet
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** none is yours even i got 2**

red schooner
coral walrus
golden loom
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You vanish every 3 min as fatebound

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So its fully stacked

red schooner
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Fatebounds its on vanish so 3 mins

coral walrus
static glacier
red schooner
golden loom
static glacier
golden loom
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Or have a seperate bind for it idk u do u

static glacier
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on saladbar smfuckingh

red schooner
static glacier
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if we kill it legit gonna be the sin with worst trinkets to have killed it

golden loom
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723 prism pacemaker garf

red schooner
knotty vapor
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710 prism 723 pacemaker :333333

short sedge
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This has to be an instant pickup right

red schooner
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Channeled trinket, ew

knotty vapor
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i took a socket over that thing today

short sedge
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This is a fresh toon so there is no way I take a socket

knotty vapor
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did u sim?

short sedge
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No

knotty vapor
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i bet empowering crystal is better

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or at least less annoying to use

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for little loss

short sedge
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Idc about it being annoying to lose I care about doing big big dam

knotty vapor
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its probs good in m+

runic hinge
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farm a lily or signet then

golden loom
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Well it probably doesnt do big dam garf

short sedge
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I'll go double on use btw

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🙂

golden loom
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Well double on use deffo doesnt do big dam garf

knotty vapor
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this individual is DEFINITELY TROLLING

wheat moss
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have they fixed the deathstalker bug yet for assa?

verbal granite
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theres a que in pins.

wheat moss
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kk didnt even know ty

old obsidian
native fossil
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any idea why my fatebound does way less damage on ST raid?

coral walrus
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if prism is my only on-use, i should use it on cd with deathmark no?

coral walrus
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kinda asking both, even if mainly keys

oak tangle
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and the answer is yes, clarification is for each or every second

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2 min dm, use prism with all dm

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1:30 use every 2nd

coral walrus
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thanks

brazen fern
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
balmy condor
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but considering deathstalker is like 15-20% behind in ST

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would assume you're really fucking something up

oak tangle
warm vortex
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Tokens on main and prolly forge on alt

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this game stinks

native fossil
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but coins does less dmg anyway

oak tangle
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what mechanics are you going out to do on loom

balmy condor
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your second shivs during dm are a little late

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but yeh this looks kinda okay

native fossil
oak tangle
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thatshouldnt be 20s though

native fossil
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maybe thats not a 30s dont remeber tho

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ye but that not gonna be soo much less dmg in coins overall

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i just can't get it why is soo much lower

balmy condor
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what do you mean by less damage in coins

oak tangle
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you're hitting the boss the whole time

balmy condor
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what are you comparing to

oak tangle
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so you're not doing mechanics

native fossil
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overall fate bound coins

balmy condor
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yes, but what does that MEAN

oak tangle
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hard to know, cause i mean more tails means less heads

balmy condor
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like what does "overall fatebound coins" mean

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what is the comparison

oak tangle
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so sure less direct dam, but you get more stacks of inc dam

balmy condor
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the damage from tails looks fine

native fossil
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idk i don't play fatebound for long i just see this ability does way less dam and don't know why

balmy condor
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LESS DAM

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THAN

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WHAT

golden loom
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Surely not the rank 1 log that omega highrolled coins

balmy condor
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you keep saying less dam

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what is less dam

verbal granite
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:D

balmy condor
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less is a comparison

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you are comparing something to yourself

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what is that thing

native fossil
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oh ye like kingsbane should be 3. and not 2.

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as i see in logs

balmy condor
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I'm gonna fucking lose it

native fossil
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maybe im just bit unlucky

oak tangle
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who's log are you comparing to

balmy condor
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🎙️

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is this thing on

native fossil
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yes

balmy condor
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okay

verbal granite
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I litteraly just spitted my coffee all over my desk. Thanks Whispyr :D

balmy condor
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so then tell me

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WHAT ARE YOU COMPARING TO

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I cannot do anything with "less coin"

humble verge
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not bad

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first antenna

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now logic next week

red schooner
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The solution is more coin

oak tangle
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that guy right now

humble verge
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fatebound be like

native fossil
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I'm actually here

oak tangle
golden loom
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Nooj famous hacker

native fossil
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i know its not the same fight but both kinda patchwerk

oak tangle
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@coral ibex why you do this

balmy condor
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I wonder why his coin damage is so high

#

when he's flipping more tails coins in 4:30

#

than you are in 6:30

oak tangle
#

L bozo get lucky

native fossil
#

so this hero talent all about luck kinda

oak tangle
#

we share it with outlaw, what you expect

red schooner
#

Its like its a coin flip

native fossil
#

otherwise just spamm 5< cp and gg

golden loom
#

But also he is 5 ilvl higher garf

native fossil
#

yee thats should not be and issue in dmg breakdown % i guess

balmy condor
#

coin flipping is rng

#

what a surprise

static glacier
#

@coral ibex look what you've done

red schooner
#

Pretty much, spec has some variance, I think one of the top logs got 56 flips in a row

#

Or something stupid

native fossil
#

yee as i said im new to this talent so didn't know it

red schooner
#

High rolled like no man has ever high rolled before

native fossil
#

just thought im doin wrong

oak tangle
#

we need notter to make us a flip counter weakaura

oak tangle
#

your previous dm was at 1:40

cinder bobcat
#

are sin rogue just not suppose to do single target damage in M+

humble verge
#

yes

oak tangle
#

pay ur tank to pull mobs onto bosses

cinder bobcat
#

what do you do in dawnbreaker?

vestal wren
#

assassiantion has funnel, so ideally you get more targets to increase your single target output

#

play subtlety

cinder bobcat
#

yea... sub is too hard XD

oak tangle
#

dawn is a bit of gg go next in terms of bosses, but there are decent funnel targets in the attendants

humble verge
cinder bobcat
#

can we go like cleave or hybrid build for dawn?

vestal wren
oak tangle
#

and clean up in aoe

humble verge
#

just go play fury

#

5m st

cinder bobcat
#

but fury can't stealth 🙁

cinder bobcat
#

no reason to play wow if there is no stealth

normal mist
#

Night elf fury

pure moth
vestal wren
#

feral druid can stealth

golden loom
#

Outlaw is stealth fury but less cool and less dam

warm vortex
cinder bobcat
#

hunters = range and cast time and bm is boring

#

feral has different forms and their nameplate is orange

vestal wren
#

there is sv too ^^

cinder bobcat
#

green is a weird color as well 🙂

vestal wren
#

but haha, think we go off topic

warm vortex
#

I play survival

oak tangle
#

there is shadowlmeld potions now

#

everyone can stealtrh

cinder bobcat
#

yea but we have pick pocket

zenith elm
warm vortex
zenith elm
#

and good morning everyone

warm vortex
#

No11!11

zenith elm
#

except whispyr, bc he should be asleep

warm vortex
#

My vault was shit

#

Bad morning

zenith elm
#

🙁

#

sorry for you friend

warm vortex
#

Yea, this was hunter vault D:

#

Belt, edict, ring and boots sim bad
already got mythic tier legs and shoulder

humble verge
#

we gettin pajd todaj

warm vortex
#

?

#

Depends on in what

#

But then i log on my evoker alt

#

And i get the trinket i've been going for

#

for fucking forever

#

but not on my hunter

humble verge
rotund oak
#

of what

#

almonds

dense cedar
rotund oak
humble verge
flint escarp
#

champion astral antenna simming pretty damn good:----(

#

i don't want to go back to week 1 gear it doesnt look cool when the number is low

#

IT'S ALL ABOUT THE NUMBER

desert crest
#

Simming better than what tho?

flint escarp
#

mythic lily, mythic seaforium, heroic netherprism in different combinations
Not simming better just very close even when not upgraded fully

desert crest
#

Yeah it is very very strong

rotund oak
balmy condor
golden loom
#

I assume its wow gold for boosts? kekw

humble verge
hidden crown
balmy condor
#

Based

hidden crown
brazen vale
#

worth macroing UN to kings bane or that not worth?

hexed basalt
#

You bind UN to vanish as fatebound

red schooner
#

The netherprism? Bind it to vanish

#

Then you're sorted.

hearty seal
little tulip
#

is anyone running double shiv in keys?

red schooner
little tulip
#

yeah not running iron wire just doing master assassin

red schooner
#

Bleed build is double shiv, and given the tier set double shiv is giga worth it

desert crest
#

Not running 2x shiv is straight trolling

little tulip
#

oh yeah this was the goat build last season

#

used to being an iron wire guy outside of cleave spec lol

red schooner
#

Yeah nah, shiv is good this patch due to the tier set

#

I mean it was good last patch but now

#

Yeah you need double shiv

little tulip
#

unrelated but man they should fix dawnbreaker some more

#

like a whole lot alooj

oak tangle
#

i see the person floating

#

but like

#

wtf are those bars

balmy condor
#

Energy and health bro

little tulip
#

yeah they're energy and health bars 🙂

humble verge
balmy condor
#

They’re like half the size of the screen and look like they can straight out of cookie clicker

#

But ya know

#

W

little tulip
#

you can see through them not all of us have horizontal goat eyes

balmy condor
humble verge
#

usually most of the boosts i do thru that community are quick

halcyon flame
oak tangle
#

i won't speak much on bars, cause i know people think my ui is cooked

balmy condor
#

How u do what

red schooner
#

Don't be unlucky

halcyon flame
balmy condor
#

He’s not flipping more coins

#

He’s flipping more tails coins

halcyon flame
#

oh and is there some min maxing around that?

balmy condor
#

No?

#

It’s a coin flip

red schooner
#

Ritual sacrifice before pull to bless your flips

halcyon flame
balmy condor
#

The entire conversation was the guy saying his coins weren’t doing damage

#

Which like

#

Fucking obviously

#

If you get lucky with heads flips

#

Heads don’t do damage

humble verge
balmy condor
#

So yeah, no coin damage

halcyon flame
balmy condor
#

I mean it doesn’t really matter what you flip

#

If you get a big chain of either it’s going to of course be better than not getting a chain

#

That’s the rng

warm vortex
halcyon flame
#

Also someone told me Im a clown for playing assa in raid

red schooner
#

Like that guy who flipped the same 56 times in a row

red schooner
little tulip
#

should have /pet the dude 3 times

red schooner
#

Which is a mistake

halcyon flame
#

hahahaha

warm vortex
#

Trust me as a SV main

red schooner
#

Hunters, ret paladins, mages, chickens.

warm vortex
#

I know a lot about clowning

red schooner
#

Don't listen to them

warm vortex
little tulip
#

why are there mice in the first boss intermission phases also

warm vortex
#

Idk

#

This mage was true

warm vortex
#

Like a helmet?

little tulip
#

rrat debuff lol

humble verge
warm vortex
#

Ah ok

red schooner
balmy condor
#

When you guys got your wisdom teeth out what food did you survive on

balmy condor
#

Okay so my regular diet then

warm vortex
#

Gonna be me if I get them taken out

#

Only eat food if given to me

red schooner
warm vortex
#

Me too

#

Love em

analog hornet
#

Why does a Prism (691) sims better as a Lily (710)? 😅 I thought the lily is better attraktiv that Itemlevel for Raid St 🤔

red schooner
#

Because prism is a good trinket, very strong.

balmy condor
#

Prism is really fucking strong

#

Also you might just have an insane amount of mastery and no crit

red schooner
#

Lily is also good but not as strong

balmy condor
#

So Lily gets DR’d to oblivion

#

Had a guy dm me the other day with 29,000 mastery wondering why Lily simmed bad for him

#

No clue how he even managed to get that much

#

Crazy work

red schooner
#

29k is a silly amount. Did he just have none of the other secondaries?

dusty turret
#

Hey, might be a silly question, and the answer will probably be, "just sim it", but is there any reason that I might be missing for going 5p? Most pieces have good stats but chest has terrible stats with haste/vers. Wouldn't we want the chest from HoA, with Crit/mastery?

halcyon flame
#

had only ring with mastery neck with mastery I guess

red schooner
#

I managed to get my crit higher than my mastery but the robot demands more

static glacier
static glacier
#

And yeah the answer is sim it but I hope I gave some theoretical explanations why

dusty turret
#

Indeed you have 😄 Thank you

balmy condor
# dusty turret Hey, might be a silly question, and the answer will probably be, "just sim it", ...

Bis list has 5 pieces because you can just swap the stats around on other gear, enchants and gems

And if I only put 4 pieces on the bis list then people see myth track tier chest and ignore it which is braindead. And if I put all 5 pieces then people get confused because there MUST BE an off piece for some reason and bis lists are just cancer spawns no matter what I do its just fucking doomed and I wish I could delete the bis lists but I can’t cause then wowhead loses money so instead I just have to swallow my morality and put the stupid slop into the guide to the best of my ability because we live in a capitalist nightmare where your clicks and Adsense and information is what keeps wowhead running and if it’s not top 2 links on google it doesn’t get clicks and revenue falls off a cliff and so we’re stuck in this hellish loop of making more clickbait because people click more clickbait and that makes money regardless of how useful it actually is but if we were to have a backbone and delete the bis lists the only thing that would happen is people would show up going “where bis, what bis, how bis” and that would be a nightmare in of itself so I just continue to live in this purgatory of the communities making where we follow bis lists like lobotomized sheep

Fuck my life

viscid spear
dusty turret
balmy condor
#

all good

flint escarp
balmy condor
#

I just enjoy thinking about how insignificant I am

flint escarp
#

might go for myth parsons

dusty turret
balmy condor
#

Yeh well

balmy condor
#

I’ve been doing this for nearly a decade and I still get called slurs for even suggesting that restealths aren’t required to do good damage in m+

#

And the bis list shit has only gotten worse over time

#

With garbage like murlok

#

And archon

#

It’s like swimming upstream into a god damn tidal wave

#

It is what it is

static glacier
red schooner
#

Yeah but there's always going to be idiots out there, can't save them all

#

Its just inevitable

static glacier
#

So ye you’ll get flamed bc the quality of gameplay falls off a cliff

#

Even if dmg is fine

balmy condor
dusty turret
static glacier
#

I don’t get what people use the list for tbh, for me only the trinket list is remotely useful

balmy condor
#

And like you look at heatmaps and average time spent on a guide page

#

It makes you lose faith in god

red schooner
#

Just maybe

balmy condor
#

Like average page time for the rotation page is like barely over 1 minute

red schooner
#

Which is slightly less worse

static glacier
#

Trink list, rotation and fight specific talents / tips are the best parts of the guide

#

Hero tree section is good for understanding pros and cons and making you own decisions for talents

coral walrus
#

on m+ with araz and pryism i should alternate between the 2?

static glacier
balmy condor
balmy condor
static glacier
coral walrus
#

i have some dungeon trinkets, i will sim to see what they are saying

balmy condor
#

Or like 2/3rds of clicks on the guide ending on the overview page

red schooner
#

Were the people still referring to bis lists in 2025 going to be delving deeper anyhow though?

balmy condor
#

Like a majority of guide visits go to the overview page, look at the cheat sheet

#

And then leave

static glacier
#

speaking on the rotation guide

balmy condor
#

I swear to god, the more you look at the way people use guides

static glacier
#

there's 0 mention of not rupturing with cb up (my past uglydog) mistake

balmy condor
#

The more depressed you get

#

It sucks my soul out

static glacier
#

maybe it should be mentioned somewhere

balmy condor
#

It probably should

red schooner
#

Yeah but you can look at the people who have engaged with the important parts of the guide and think, 'hey, I've helped this many people'

balmy condor
#

All 25 people that will read it will appreciate it

red schooner
#

To put it in a different light

static glacier
#

cmon its gota be in the hundreds

balmy condor
#

At this point in the patch?

#

Like if the rotation page isn’t getting clicks

#

At the start of a season

#

How many clicks do you think it’s getting 2 months in

static glacier
#

just wait til the aura buff comes

red schooner
#

Maybe we've had rerollers

static glacier
#

+1000% traffic trust

#

you remember what happens to this channel when the buffs come

#

id assume same for guides

balmy condor
#

The most common wowhead user opens the guide at some point in the first week of a patch, and then doesn’t open it a second time

static glacier
robust axle
#

Cold blood

coral walrus
#

aa, fatebound

static glacier
#

if you activate cold blood and kb you do not want to rupture since then cb will only make you match 1 coin

coral walrus
#

i know

static glacier
#

instead of 2 due to edge case from tierset

coral walrus
#

i barely raid outside the clear on heroic so fatebound still gets me confused

static glacier
#

fair

#

the play is you actually let rupture drop to not press rupture with cb active

#

since it guarantees your streak

coral walrus
balmy condor
#

Not surprising in the slightest

#

Double on use is kinda terrible

coral walrus
#

nw at some point, the Gods of vault will give us antena mith

#

odd that dawnbreaker trinket is simming better than pacemaker in m+

dense willow
#

@balmy condor in m+ is sigil of cosmic hunt better than b tier

balmy condor
#

I’m gonna be honest

#

I have no clue what sigil does

#

Or what is in b tier

#

I’ve never seen anyone use that shit

dense willow
static glacier
#

it's just a passive proc dmg trink thats execute skewed

#

I think it's relatively well tuned

balmy condor
#

Yeah maybe in ST

#

That looks awful for m+

static glacier
#

I think its actually

#

better relatively for us in aoe than st

desert crest
#

Might be undersimming slightly since assa already has execute

static glacier
#

atleast from my own sims

desert crest
#

But should not be a large effect

balmy condor
#

Yeh idk

#

All I know is shit trinket no one uses

static glacier
balmy condor
#

Bad trinket

static glacier
#

sin uses a lot of mastery that does nothing for the trinket

desert crest
#

Yes very try

static glacier
#

which is why its bis for OL

#

like if no one needs and it sims as an upgrade go for it

#

but if there's dh / others that actually make use of it

#

let em have it

desert crest
#

In fact now that i think about it the stronger exectute is a for spec the more it undersims

#

Kinda funny actually

little tulip
#

monk likes sigil

#

good luck getting it first :y

desert crest
#

Like the spec it self not the trinket

static glacier
#

this is how you know that the crit dmg shit havoc has is cracked, they managed to make perfidious projector not sim like complete garbage

rotund jungle
#

Im starting to believe that the bug with caustic and SF isn’t a bug ….it was just a nerf ^^

desert crest
#

Maybe the target dummy hp over time should be standardised based on a prediction of total raid dmg instead of just ur own dmg

static glacier
rotund jungle
#

They can

static glacier
#

they're just stalling til hof is closed

desert crest
#

Probably a huge waste of time tho

rotund jungle
#

If they wanted to

static glacier
#

then tuning and fixes are coming

static glacier
#

they're just stalling for time while they finish midnight

little tulip
#

is this worst season

rotund jungle
#

They are no human 🙁

little tulip
#

womp womp

static glacier
#

contrary to what you may think they are humans

#

and not that bad at their job all things considered

coral walrus
#

i d highly argue against that

#

the devs yes, are humans

static glacier
#

why are you playing the game?

rotund jungle
#

😂

static glacier
#

they clearly did something right

#

to keep you addicted

coral walrus
#

the peopel above the devs, are subhumans

static glacier
#

higher execs? nah they're more human than all of us, they fully pander to shareholder approval, the board of directors and PR

coral walrus
#

the genre has no competition so there aren't many choices you can do.

static glacier
#

welcome to late stage capitalism bro

coral walrus
#

at least in my opinion, the game is not in a good state, is just that the competition is non-existent.

static glacier
#

they give no shits about wow as a game, merely as a product

#

game quality is a means to an end - profit and customer retention

#

the actual devs care a lot and are passionate

little tulip
#

this is a pretty not great end of expansion season

static glacier
little tulip
#

if they bring back any tww dungeons in midnight outside of m0 i think ppl are gonna have fits

static glacier
#

unlike whispyr the rest of us actually have to go to that shithole and pray a dev reads our post

spice surge
#

Tww has some good dungeons

gloomy heart
#

some.

bronze pike
#

i enjoyed most of em tbh

red schooner
#

Dawnbreaker has potential but its buggy

bronze pike
#

heck even dawnbreaker

red schooner
#

Fix the DB bugs and we chilling

bronze pike
#

i think the one i dislike tho was the kobold one

#

darkness boss sucks balls

static glacier
#

arakara is cringe

#

change my mind

spice surge
#

Dawnbreaker, floodgate and meadery are all really good imo

static glacier
#

dawn would be if it wasn't for bugs

little tulip
spice surge
#

Are you high

little tulip
#

not to mention we just spent 3 seasons with the tww dungeons

#

no i wish

static glacier
little tulip
#

sure the cc check on the last wing of throne of the tides was hard but the squid boss and general guy are like soooo good

static glacier
#

some of the bosses in tides are just

little tulip
#

and there's nothing quite like that in the current roster of dungeons

static glacier
#

unfair

#

the totem guy on higher keys just starts murdering you, little to no warning

little tulip
#

there's always a insta schmurder in high keys though

spice surge
#

Popping predefensives for a mechanic thats random and might not even target you is a classic symptom of a dogshit boss

little tulip
#

big true, do you really wanna see darkflame cleft again though

viscid spear
spice surge
#

Rather that than throne yeah, darkflame mostly inoffensive, not great but not awful

viscid spear
#

Bring back Plaguefall garf_sit

little tulip
#

and that's why i don't wanna see tww dungeons outside of m0 in midnight, they're just inoffensive

#

unironic theater of pain/necrotic wake enjoyer though

spice surge
#

Necrotic wake the worst dungeon

little tulip
#

i think resil keys being available s1 would have shaped opinions on that season differently

spice surge
#

Of all time

#

Holy that place was stinky

little tulip
#

except for grim batol

#

that place can stay where it is :|c

golden loom
#

Ecodome is a gigabanger

rotund oak
#

yup it is,love it

#

u can make nice pulls and got space and str8 forward mechanics

#

reminds me of ML a lil bit

viscid spear
red schooner
#

The Oculus in m+ rotation when

#

Violet hold as well.

rotund oak
#

u are vile

red schooner
#

Do it you cowards

viscid spear
rotund oak
#

lul

red schooner
golden loom
#

Least enjoyable dungeons this expac for me were City of threads and stonevault

red schooner
#

Halls was neat too

viscid spear
rotund oak
#

stonevault was cringe but my mage didnt rly care for those frontals alot

golden loom
#

If I never have to see city of threads again I will die happy

spice surge
#

Stonevault is close to being a good dungeon

viscid spear
spice surge
#

City too, if they just cut the long rp down

#

Yeah rookery stinky

red schooner
#

Remove some of the RP stuff from city of threads and we're chill

#

Good place

rotund oak
#

yeah rp also cringe

little tulip
#

weird but siege of boralus is net neutral, we're not gonna see it again but also good joob blizzard

red schooner
#

Just didn't like waiting for the dude to do his stuff in a timed dungeon

rotund oak
#

city of threads was whatever

viscid spear
golden loom
#

Being new at the game also probably made cot and stonevault worse for me than what they actually were

rotund oak
#

its just the melee experience

#

its not only u

little tulip
#

maybe xalatath will pull up and void grief dornogal

rotund oak
#

even experienced rogues think the same

red schooner
#

True, I liked him but also, timed dungeon rp is bad

tender hound
#

Hello, cursed idol on assa?

viscid spear
little tulip
#

revenge of da void dwarfs etc

rotund oak
#

its all about light and humans

#

eveyrthing else is 2nd-3rd roles

#

light emperor is comin' btch@@s

little tulip
#

heh just saw a newspaper bonk gif when will they learn @_@

coral ibex
#

man i woke up and thought we had bug fixes announced

coral ibex
#

nope just getting pinged bc i flipped too many tails on fract

#

back to bedge

rotund oak
#

tailflipper

hidden crown
coral ibex
viscid spear
midnight scroll
#

i really want that prism... sim is telling me to grab the neck piece

lavish portal
spring briar
midnight scroll
midnight scroll
#

still, prism is a 0.0% upgrade at best for me xd

#

i do have an ornately engraved amplifier neck in my bags, still says i should skip prism

lavish portal
#

Also do first heroic raid until u pick a hc vault item

midnight scroll
#

that's a good call

coral walrus
midnight scroll
#

weekly?

hidden crystal
#

4 mythic dungeons gives heroic cache this week

midnight scroll
#

cool, gotta do that before raid tonight

#

also, do we tolerate 2 on-use trinkets if one is bound to deathmark and the other to vanish?

humble verge
#

man