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A Website to compare top parses in World of Warcaft.
Or two
i send flag and blades on pull, and hold for adds
i do 3 dances
a lot of boss dmg for sure but that's also an unholy amount of caustic spatter
no worries!
u gotta check this bad boy out
#destroyingAssaMental
So at Nexus King hc u send Full CDs into Titan? And dont have CDs for damage amp on Dragon After?
that's what I did
i ound that if you flag on cd, then it comes up too late into the adds that it is worth holding for like a min
on my log i went from 4.3m dps to boss to 6.82 with adds included
amp should line up but thats maybe a mythic thing
If i send CDs into Titan on hc it cant line up
anyone know if you can compress the timescale on the timelines section of wcl
as u see here they pop on l1 (add platfrom) and then start of l2 (dmg amp)
Y in Mythic i Can Imagine that it works
Oh… Crazy
but also with sole purpose of padding adds and getting cds in amp
I feel Like it wont line up Cause the Titan and the adds explode in hc 🙈
this one is prob more like urs
yeah flag at the start of adds, lines up perfectly with start of the amp
they skip 2nd blades to get earlier dmg on adds so it lines up
if you flag on cd, you are delayed for both
in mythic same timer flag comes about 10 sec in the platform similare to hc
but due to it lasting longer its not troll
but hc u can squeeze a lot more in dmg amp specially with prism
heroic saladbar logs are a memefest
😄
So hc - 1 forge blades on pull 2nd set cds again forge on adds and 3th full stacked prism on amp
Pad is the pall buff?
yurr according to logs, then its timeres for the rest of it
if you're being ethical you would prism amp
logs do this
just prism 90s into the fight and then on the dmg amp
so a fully stacked for adds (or semi stacked) and a smaller prism on amp
so prob around 9 stacks prism for amp and fully stacked on adds
Is this warcraft logs or some other thing? It looks nice
due to not clicking cds (from the logs we are looking at) at 90 sec this scenario we save
A Website to compare top parses in World of Warcaft.
Never heard of that, thx!
u can take top logs timers to ert
just beware that top logs never have to do mechanics
if u click on someones name u can get this other window which u can copy paste into ur mrt note to use TR or eh the other one to see when they click to "remind" you
and do everything to do absolute maximum damage to non meaningful targets a lot of the time, eg adds
i got disenchanted with lorrgs when I had to do bombs on tindral
Can i filtr out new logs on loergs
real af, but i just found a log with someone doing same bombs as me :))
what do u mean
Cuz average gear dif plus add nerd to hp
Can make it so on average now adds finish quicker
So amp is faster
Nerd*
Nerf
Fml
most top logs are the newest ones. otherwise u will have to find a person on warcraftlogs that is in top x position and take it from lorrgs from there
example, newest log is #20 which means u find his name double check its same on lorrgs then u can take his cds
I also filtr out some by my estimated kill time
With my dad guild
6-7min
Which cuts it to around 7logs
i can never get good parses on soul hunters, our ranged are too busy running the hunt soak into the middle of nowhere
Thats a pretty neat website thanks @velvet cairn
Ye its bonkers
yeah nothing wrong to look at "better" logs, sometimes its a killtime diff or who gets padd or not. its just good to see if ur supposed to delay cds or not. eg araz u delay 30 sec
no worries!
yeah this is boss damage on the fight
have to sneak in a lil bit of padding
i was at least ethical and didnt black powder on add platform
love ethical
What is padd
how is that ethical, there are not enough adds for black powder to matter on trickster afaik
What does it mean
not meaningful damage kinda
like soulbinder adds are important to kill but they get cleaved pretty well, but a bm hunter going full monkey on aoe and doing 0 st thats padd
it's 4+
like we have 0 problems with adds on araz. so i would call this padd to some part
There is this guy on my guild who is a beast, xyrien-shadowsong i respect him a lot for playing like robot, 99 parse kind aof thing, ele sham. Wanna beat him in fights i can
And if it requirws me to padd
I padd
for comparisons
On hc at least on prog diff story

yeah this is some random reclear
playing like a robot 
titan is important, so i'm only half memeing about padding
hes prob very good (no flame but prob ur team thats also a bit badge)
this is one araz in ur guild thats a pretty big leap between #1 and #2 on details
Ye totally this 2 things, guild bad he giga good
I am also not on the level I want to be
padding would be that i dont top damage on titan and instead went full even cleave on all targets
i mean nexus king is a special scenario since 1.5m want to pop. but 2m dont line up
comes with time! by just trying to improve means ur half way there!
Thx for cutting 3th dps on that ss
be proud of your wins, and work on the losses
ur doing ur part right dont worry
more often than not, sacrificing mechanics isn't actually the way to better parses
ur better than the "idol" in st
which is what ur supposed to do (even if ele is broken)
Thx, I try
@oak tangle you tried sin on saladbar? I was too high for 1st night of prog so just defaulted sub
i see target swapping with adds, i dont talent into sin
kekw
XD
on paper sin should be good at titan dmg
i lowkey wanna try sin on mythic saladguy
not that mark management can't be done, but i dont wanna deal with it
yeah but rest needs to die too which kinda depends on comp
you have to play fatebound st tho, you're actively losing prio damage by having adds around the big guy
all I see is CT justification 
highkey going fatebound with CT smile
mightasswell just go ds
prob better than a shitty sub
20% more ct dmg
true true
theoretically you could hold a dsm from boss into add phase too
yeah that would be the general aim
i just worry with the singular focus bug if sin can compete with sub
p1 and 2 would be quite nice for sin damage, and then p3 carried by the execute, on paper it looks kinda nice
sub is just so much less work right now
ye
and with add hp nerf, only gonna get worse, if adds dont last a sin burst
but the st is kinda tight on boss
which makes ds less worth right
either u cd add platform or dmg amp
meanwhile fb can do both
just found out i missed a whole DM cast on my saladbar kill lmao
no wonder my dmg was bad
Is there a situation in which 400 prime stat<600 secondary stat
Thinking about vault 🤤
yeah but i don't think it's gonna happen on assa
bugs fixed when

Any wa master that knows if it's possible to have a WA that tracks your Deathstalker Mark's target and if you click on the WA it targets it back for you?
clickable was in combat dont really work anymore
could do some /focus stuff
Oh like a /cast ambush and /focus target?
I just mouseover garrote and rupture and stay on my dm target in the opener
why swap tho?
Self hatred
If anyone can cook something I'd appreciate I'm very bad with WA
I have one that tracks de DS mark but it only reads if target has it or not
understandable no further questions
could make a custom plater where it makes the healthbar SUPER MASSIVE BIG
but i dont know how to cook plater
Even if you show a big healthbar the hitbox to click it stays the same
Why would they fix the bugs ? To nerf the class after ?
wild guess, but... because its bad if there are bugs!
no matter the impact
Change from Target to Nameplate
can send u a aura if u want
I would like that :^)
one sec gotta log in then
Hello guys, can someone tell me how some top parses rogues are able to throw like 20-30 more envenom than me in a fight of 6-7Min (mythic boss ST) when i wasted less energy than them ?
depends on which fight and how you spend your energy, also effective tea usages
Link logs and one of these amazing rogues could prolly call it
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think that does what u wanted right
let me a sec
most likely you dont rupture snipe
wait that was fast
if ur low energy and pop a rupture on a almost dead ring add u get energy refunded
scales with combo points
na could be
havent looked
wtf
thats my log
xd
you also have mistakes in your opener the shiv is supposed to be before dm
doesnt help energy tho its small increase
oh thats interesting im all time using shiv after DM
tbf i am pretty sure perfecto from echo also messed up the shiv in opener
its a old thingy, with coins u want to do beforehand since coins are cosmic (falls under nature dmg)
but im trying to throw kingsban after what i didn't respect there
Yea its just still incorrect and he does it always so its a common mistake for him
Atleast i remember seeing him not do it right at least a couple pulls
We using coins now for assa or is that a raid thing?
Fatebound single target thing
We are progressing loom on Mythic and im getting flamed for not swapping to break the tangles. Should I tell them to go F themselves or because I can play fatebound it's not as bad as reverb was?
its a raid boss ST
loomitar there
are you spending on 5+ at all times?
tell them to check top parse dmg on it
Ah ok. I primarily do m+. Only used fatebound on sub
y ofc
if u dont solve i can help after my key
the main difference i see here is just that you have less crit and less haste tbh
this is prob right tho
should be using stat enchants on your weapons fwiw
!rik
Rik Reverb Barrels (and similar spread cleave in raid)
- Not your problem.
- Assassination is the worst target swapping spec in the game, and we have no tools available to deal with the situation of priority spread cleave. Caustic can reach sometimes but similar to fire mage, the boss needs to be on top of the adds, causing caustic to often be out of range.
- If you're truly hellbent on swapping to barrels, hold your nearest darkest night and just slam a darkest night envenom into them and pray. If you're quick enough you can also pool combo points/energy and cast a rupture on a barrel to try and caustic off of them. This still will not do good barrel damage, again, the spec is doomed for it
- Another possible option would be talenting into Crimson Tempest by untalenting Bone Spike and Doomblade. This CAN TECHNICALLY provide a bit of barrel damage, but the spawns need to be immaculate and any difficult spawns will just result in no barrel damage again.
With all that, the best advice we have for swapping barrels: - Swap to Subtlety.
not this
fatebound scales good on crit
more crit more cp
if i remember right i got a lot of good crits with both daggs in end too
If they’re not even doing the opener correctly I’m not sure telling them stats are the problem is a good idea
well their question was asking why envenom casts were lower
More crit is worth around 1%
If ur stats are optimzied for m+
Opener is less than that i think actually lul
But yeah probably other mistakes reducing dmg also
y i know that im really no playing good
In the log they are casting mutilate at least four times constantly so it may be that they don’t realize you don’t do 7 cp finishers with Fatebound
but i think im not doing huge mistake juste a lot of a little mistake that are resulting with a big lose of dps
waht the hell i just saw
look at this
him
me
wtf is ambush giving him 111 combo point
One of them is in French, this may be the issue 
sry for that :x
other one swedish
aka me
not better
but the things is that he was able to throw 38 ambush
when i only did 9
what could explain that
do u use ambush when proc?
It changes mutilate on the bars
He does i think
Might just be giga unlucky on blindsides
Seems very strange that he procs so little tho
check blindside uptime
Just be more lucky ez
Swedish hacks

im pretty sure 8 procs is a terminal lowroll
You had the option to highroll or lowroll and you chose to highroll
Correct choice
Yeah 38 is very high but 8 is also very low
like at 5:30 into the fight we've cast nearly 100 mutilates (15% chance) and procced twice

W
so my main mistake there is that my luck suck ? xD
Yup
you are Fatebound....to be unlucky
i guess i ll try again tomorrow then
well there are other issues with damage but your envenom casts being low is largely in part due to this proc (and having low crit)
!pooling
- Energy just is low on the spec there's nothing to do about it, you will run out
- Only one pooling condition exists (pool around 4 seconds before non-deathmark kingsbanes until 150ish energy). This is worth 0.3%
- Other optimizations are simply not impactful enough to show a benefit in sims, but pooling before quick-dying add spawns could in theory be a practical gain to pad.
The probability of the gap between the 2 and 3 proc has probability: 0.85^54=0.015%
y i always lowroll on the fckign ring
Like that is crazy
fml i should have play loto
i think it's more productive to focus on the issues in your control
I'll give it a try and see if it works for me 😁
so if i macro shiv to tristletea, do i have to pay attention to the 30% energy or what i cant seem to find that
no
Just ignore it
Just ignore tea lol
Tea doesn’t exist it can’t hurt you
Tea is gonna proc, it happens, bind it to shiv and remove it from your bars
is the same for ST and AOE?
sent it before if u care to scroll, otherwise ping me in 3min
AoE we should have infinite energy
tyvm
5 ruptures out leads to you being capped
bro no pooling, no tea, ive been missing out
No thought, just hit buttons
you guys are eating good 
Minus the bugs that you’ll rarely notice
Yeah
Need that
unless my probability math is wrong, the chance of only proccing a 15% hit twice or less in 101 casts is like 0.0002%
Okay but hear me out, we make a weak aura that makes thistle tea look like coffee
No that got fixed in 10.2.7
PARSED 84% ON FRACTILLUS HEROIC I FEEL SO GOOD (AS A NEW-ISH PLAYER) https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/HnmTj2vY9fwa786d?fight=last&type=damage-done
hell yeah
Adds a nameplate border on your Deathstalkers Mark target. Based on https://wago.io/mvDfXxrt3
I LOVE YOU @balmy condor
You too man
but aint no way that ambush is the diff
Grats
oh yeah i remember someone giving me the opener weakaura with spell timelines marked
is that still a thing
okay that's all the questions I've had Ty
They removed a ton of the super complex stuff
@tranquil jungle did u feel its solved?
No bitches
that's also nuts
pretty dope tbh
rlly excited to dig back into sin
after a while
wait its deleted??
They reworked it
bro this is awesome
It’s just next 2 finishers
Glad to hear it, back to bed with my ass it’s 7am
appreciated
And I need to be up at 9:30
just stay up at that point
Go to sleep king
y as someone said i ll focus on other thing like kriss before DM, rupture sniping, more crits ... and see tomorrow what happened
Counterpoint I love him
I love him less rn
worst case u can bother whispyr our lord and savior
He made biscuits on my nutsack
he got a phd in energy and rouge mechaniks

but i would say crit scales good with FB and rupture sniping when u have a good moment to
I’m just sayin how it is, he woke me up and my nuts hurt
He just like me
wait, what's happening?
lucky
he had 30 envenoms less than my log and wondered how
and i think the convo ended with i gapped him in rng blindside
idk i was mid key
are u managing ur energy or just using it on cd
I’m sending it unless my muscle memory takes over and I pool like a dumbass
It’s a bad habit I have
I can’t stop pooling
It’s just so engrained
ahah its ok then
im sending it on 5 or more too yes
I take it the current bugs is the reason no one is playing DS on mythic araz?
we are ok that mutilate switch to ambush when we got a blindside prok
!pooling
- Energy just is low on the spec there's nothing to do about it, you will run out
- Only one pooling condition exists (pool around 4 seconds before non-deathmark kingsbanes until 150ish energy). This is worth 0.3%
- Other optimizations are simply not impactful enough to show a benefit in sims, but pooling before quick-dying add spawns could in theory be a practical gain to pad.
blindside is better than mutilate yes
The first thing I open discord to 
i assume though that pooling is dps neutral
as in you don't really lose dps if you pool
so long as youre not wasting energy
may i ll try a macro to use ambush > mutilate to be sure im throwing ambush
like u said the difference is crazy
Yes
its already in game if u proc ur mutilate replaced by ambush
Yeah idk I took a glance
Bad procs, no crit, shit enchants
Like 450 energy less from dashing scoundrel
what enchant should i use ?
this is what my rouge uses
i saw deep of the depth if cool in ST
Any of the secondary stat ones
No
Depths and radiant power are awful
really ? even in m+ ?
specially with fatebound it scales well with crit so crit enchant is really good
ohh shi really fak me
sec stat scaling in s3 is just insane
i swapped like 1 week ago
mana oil is also siming higher for me even in m+ build
Secondary stat enchants were like -0.2% last patch
Same with oil
Oils kinda always been basically equal
But 4x the price
Didn’t make any sense to spend more money for identical damage
But it does make some stuff a bit more complex
like main stat food is worse now i think
The choice of accepting slight loss to whetstone for more money or less money but mana oil
true
Suffering truly
i didn't take care to my enchants & stuffs but this is very interesting
Yeah sure by 0.1%
Which like no one seems to care about
weapon enchants are worth 100%, also chest+legs+rings rest cba
The only thing that really matters are weapon enchants tbh
Only because food in general is meh if food was good we would care more
We embellish how significant they are to feel better
You’re just constantly picking between something that’s 0.8% and another thing that’s 0.85%
y im siming all of that but i was using smae weapon enchants as S2 i don't really know why i didn't sim for it too
But atm swaping from all main stat to all sec stat will be quite a bit now i think
but im gonna test this tomorrow
focus on wep enchants and u fine
thx a lots guys
You’re Simming food?

also my guild did xD
hes hardcore
just socket them things and call it a day
But @balmy condor u are just build different
i just discovered this discord
Some of us need all the dmg we can get
i was lost i didn't know how to improve dmg so i took anything i found xD
Dude at this point I’m not sure if gemming for the blasphemite is more annoying, or if people asking me why I don’t have a blasphemite is more annoying
Open character, see 7x crit/mast gems
How will i get 100 parse in lfr if i am not optimizing my food
me sitting at 10 coins not pressing a button for 5 seconds, asking myself when the bugs will get fixed
Hello why don't you have a blasphemite when it's in .... the guide....
Is assas still the go-to spec for +15 keys and below? Or is sub generally stronger now in keys?
But whisper my 25 target 15 min sim says that gems are cooked
Try both
u gotta do a 66 min 6 target sim for best accuracy dude smh
ohh shi sorry
will re sim all my gems and food and enchants and recrafts to see if anything changes
be back in 2 hours
120 minutes it is then
what if guide whisp and discord whisp are 2 different people
one's an innie and one's an outie
I can objectively say that’s false

Imagine the fun of our crash outs when our spec is even buggier come midnight s1
Yeah
I'll jump off the platform when it happens ty
It's for immersion
just attack him from the back bro
if i dont get prism today in vault im crashing out
Get to crashing
You will instead get rings
its funny cux my dk got it first run within thr firdt hour at lvl 80
and forge
and idil
and antenna
The game is mocking you for having a DK
Alts can't get good vaults if you have no alts

i have prism, but i dont know how to use it.
I macro it to DeathMark, but it feels unoptimal.
youd use double on use if you play sub but idk whats optimal for ass tbh
i just use forge seaforium in keys
For FB to vanish every 3 mins, on DS just every 2mins
With DM
!wa
Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
any1 knows how to chance color of target in plater that has deathmark on it ?
yeh but i like the profile i have atm abit more
So look at how the others do it
u can ask to chat gpt for a "border color death stalker mark mod on plater"
if u want to add this to ur actual plater
i did that for "no rupture" i put red border color hover every target were aura is missing
Might also make stuff up as LLMs often do
i never tried to update a plater and did it pretty fast like 20min with gpt
otherwise this one looks good https://wago.io/YhVgpHEs2
Based on/fork of: https://wago.io/GeHuM2FWx Modified for Assassination Rogue. This mod helps keep track of missing blee
hmm doesnt chance color for me
local hasMark = Plater:UnitHasDebuff (unitFrame.unitId, SPELL_ID_OF_DEATHSTALKERS_MARK)
if hasMark then
unitFrame.HealthBar.Border:SetVertexColor(r, g, b)
else
unitFrame.HealthBar.Border:SetVertexColor(defaultR, defaultG, defaultB)
end
got this code, maybe its in there i guess
u need to switch this "SPELL_ID_OF_DEATHSTALKERS_MARK" with "457157"
FateBound SingleTarget - i press Shiv -> DeathMark to Buff the Coins on DeathMark
DeahStalker AOE - i press DeathMark -> Shiv because i dont have the coin mechnic and this is then the better order
Do i understand that right?
should i never manually swap targets for garrote and rupture in aoe? or i just let carnage do its job
best is mouseover or focus macro to spread
tab target is ok at the opener but not that much when u are actually fighting and u want to refresh dot manually or with vanishing
u want to optimise ur uptime on main target
yawn
did they change it so you get loot from bosses you dont down?
it isn't a change but yes
Yup, got dagger mytch from loom and didnt even killed.
because of the dungeon journal order
people kill soulbinder 2nd but he's the 3rd boss
people kill fract 5th but he's the 6th boss
If you kill soulbinder it opens the loot for loom as well
i got the same thing i was so confused
guys on st fate bound if the bug that reduce my kb and deathmark 2 time after first use
should i wait for cold blood to come up?
Are either of these trinkets myth worth it if I have Heroic prism? For raid or m+?
i dont think thats actually true because ive watched every rogue pov of mythic dimensius
no ingame sound bc it was on the same output as my music but its np all youll hear is "feint feint feint feint feint" xdd
timestamp
you can see exile shadowsteps the tank knock
and he doesn't step to another player
It's so jarring and I still don't get why, like the fuck is bros hit box
professional shadow stepper

I'm almost certain he steps to sini
m daggers, araz heroic, or m track head
what makes you say he doesn't step to another player? he has the healer focussed
because usually when you step something in the air, you fall down
and he doesn't appear to fall
maybe im wrong tho
you get knocked sideways there not up though
i mean yeah, but you dont go high, and if mid knock is the max height, stepping at the start will have you near ground, #physics
Mythic head so you can think better
yea i guess so
makes sense
you see right as they enter p2 he focusses atlas, cause that's just a free shadowstep target to the DA'd dk
pretty sure he was focus stepping the priest the entire time
probs also shares the same soak in p3
which phase?
he had weakaura reminders to focus priest in p1 and then to swap his focus to atlas in p2
first
in p1 it just puts you infront of him
p3 you just go to his backside
i was lied to
but being put infront of him puts you into him... rip
yeah but i get bonked by tank aoe
if the tank stands at the edge yeh u do
but they normally kinda dont, so you are mostly fine, just annoying to ahve to absolutely sprint back to drop puddles
i shadowstepped from too far away and same thing ended up happening, and i used hunt on my dh and ended up inside his hitbox, p1 is trolling me
this is also why you have to first gcd shadowstrike a mass
because otherwise you end up in front of the tank
and then its gg
ye
well you can just take 1 step forward and strike boss
ill just hit the mob and not risk it
but on mythic you nuke the first adds anyway, so i dont even strike
that's what i've ended up doing, but our tank likes to try and help do damage to first mob
i insta flag into dance+stab-sectech
is this required for alignment or
nah, its just for killing the first set of adds asap
cuz all adds need to be dead for them to drop their excess mass
and you need all 6 to live the suck
how do you guys keep your damage consistent on the Saladbar fight?
i find that for the first few seconds i'm at top of the meters, but after that first cooldown cycle is finished, and energy starts dropping low, i quickly move back down to 7-8th spot
well its a fight with adds and then an amp
haven't played sin on it to relate, but you're (depending on the build) a 1:30 spec
so i wouldn't really worry about your damage
other than after those phases
and you're basically describing "guys my damage goes down after my cd's end"
which is entirely expected
thats just how cooldowns work
you have quite a comeback in execute, etc
King salad needs to give us a pet that's a leafy green version of himself
The phase with the titan on the island is also huge for us
I always shoot back up there
!gear
Random but does anyone know the source to this gear chart? I tried searching those usernames cant find it
Wondering if theres one for all specs/ classes
Could ping fuu and ask
pretty sure fuu is the source
@vestal wren we have a quandary above
unless the meaning of author changed
whats the question?
They want to know if you're the gearing chart source
is that just a sub sheet fuu?
@pulsar gulch they did it
Also unrelated, mayo or butter for grilled cheese
grilled cheese isn't that common in asstria, think the classic is mayo tho
This shall be noted in the archives 
but ye i basically, do/did !sheet, !loot and !up this tier.
The 2nd was a last minute idea i had, !up only because the author of the old version stopped playing wow it seems and i did not find a good replacement.
the loot command is very useful
i'd personally swap the columns and rows
Neither
Got a vault with myth track lily + pacemaker and a hero netherprism. Simmed it out (dungeon slice) and hero netherprism beats out the mythic track trinkets by a decent margin. Does that sound reasonable? Just want to gut check it before I pass on mythic track S tier trinkets . . .
sounds correct
Prism is a 3m trinket so if you are running a 5m sim it might undervalue prism because you would get one use versus multiple for other trinkets
Simmed as fate bound or mark?
mark
Lily will sim higher on fate most likely
!wa
Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
its still 2 uses
tho
just with less stacks
they neferd the belt delve?
Oh lol i was looking on reddit its a discord logo im derp. Also i just wanted to say its great and i wish it existed for other classes
I used to have a clear the witness weakaura sound but i had to purge my computer after a very serious hack. Anyone have such a weakaura? I can't remember where i got it. shotgun sound somehow.
Belt will be nerfed with the .5 patch I believe
ok
How do you cook it then, oil?
I'm a butter believer.
Antenna or Pacemaker?
antenna harder to get surely
Sim it but I cant see a world you dont take antena
With bombs
if i race change before mythic raid tonight, will it affect my lockout at all
or do i have to do it monday night before reset
Someone likes their grilled cheese ashy

Engineering grenades haven't been useful in forever so I welcome this
Bring back having to throw grenades at bosses for more damage
Anyone know if loom is in loottable for vault if u kill 1st and 3rd boss?
is there a WA or addon that shows if u dotted the complete pack ? sometimes shit get clusterd and cant see in big pulls
yes it is
Nice thanks
Also soul hunters loot will be in vault when you kill Fractilus as well 🙂
Yeah so u just get all the loot from bosses earlier then the one u killed then i guess
anyone know? specifically a non-faction race change
Would a 720 crafted belt be better that the delve belt? I just see everyone still using the delve belt
It will be turbo boost craft so higher thaan 720 tho right?
But i think it will be better anyway
U can recraft tho right?
I already have my other two crafts for my embellishments
It should be except our guild, where we kill fractilus and zero say soul
today they will fix assa 
Hey guys, I have a noob question.
In an AOE situation, 5+ Mobs, is my main combo point spender CT or Env?
CT is an apply and refresh not a spammer
good to read all your abilities and talents
so you apply CT and then envenom into the caustic spatter target
whilst i agree and support this, CT did used to be spammed way back
i still hate it
CT is like rupture you refresh before expires
ah okay, thank you

coins from vault 
so the BIS list on the guide is entirely dependent on if you every single piece of gear at myth level correct? so we should be simming until then
yes, sims are always more accurate for you because it's based on your gear and not a bunch of gear you may never have
You should always be simming potential upgrades
heroic prism and antenna is beating every mythic m+ trinket in sims for me
so realistcailly if a piece is the best upgrade out of vault but would go where a crafted piece would i should just take it and craft something else?
when is to much crit for fatebound ?
when sims say so
!macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.
#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane
Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket
When sims get critical of the amount
Sims are telling me that doing a straight upgrade of my tier legs from champion to mythic is a major DPS loss which is baffling to me
show sim
would bet its something with 1 is a tset piece and the other isnt
enchants check em
Is there a macro to be able to retarget your DS Marked target?
nvm it's even dumber than that and that is all I'm admitting to
I used mouse over garrote and rupture so I’m always on the main dsm target idk if it’s bad or not but
you sim with leg enchant?
what should i craft guys? can i craft a 2nd weapon? all my gear is hero track except my void scarred signet/shoulders
OH is the least valuable piece to craft
is there a command that explains maybe how to use second vanish on fatebound ?
!dj
Vanishing On Fatebound 
- you vanish for double jeopardy, a Fatebound talent
- this causes your next flip to flip an additional coin, and this coin can be an edge-case coin
- because of this, you want to vanish when you know the next flip is an edge-case flip
- edge case flips happen as a result of pressing deathmark, kingsbane, or the two envenoms afterwards which are affected by cold blood. You can vanish before ANY of these flips.
- you should be vanishing every 3 minutes, lining up with every other deathmark, and this will also align with netherprism every 3 minutes for maximum burst
Wrist
this vault is so shit its insane
craft whatever is your largest dps increase
really? was unaware of that
you should be vanishing every 3 minutes, lining up with every other deathmark, and this will also align with netherprism every 3 minutes for maximum burst it means i vanish the third deathmark right ?
boots for xmog trust
oh is just a stat stick unlike mh and its stat budget is the lowest out of all our slots
dear friends what do we craft after dagger/bracers combo ?
ty for knowledge
Ring, neck, nothing at all
Something that’s not trinkets, boots or tier pieces
yeah so ring/neck/waist seems like
Waist, not yet, disc probs still better
So with prism do we still pop it with cds on pulls with lust since it would only have one or two stacks or is it better to hold for the second DM?
based on sims its 1% upgrade so
You lose 1 stack (assuming you’re not holding for your 3rd dm to use) if you press on pull and then again with second dm
But also you aren’t robot so likely you get the stack back anyway
guys for this attuned aether buff for the raid, does whetstone not get buffed?
wowhead says assassinations bis chest piece is the mythic track tier, but isn't that our Worst piece that would be better a crafted slot?
yeah, that's what I thought
Bis list works only if you have all of the list at the lists ilvl, don’t try and extrapolate to heroic gear etc
pretty sure you'd take a 723 tier chest for the ilvl
also, I am in the process of putting the vault into the sim
you dont have to input anything, simc addon will detect your vault
and put those items in top gear for you
oh okay
I believe you have to have vault open when you do it
is ascension + writhing armor band okay for m+
Oh cool, I’ve always just done it with window open XD
Ai + raidbots will soon be able to sim my parse beforehand
what does it mean to "sim my parse"
They’ll tell me based on my mood and weather etc that I’ll get a 92% parse
Is singular focus still bugged?

everything is still bugged
does anyone know if this week manaforge vandal buff work with whetstones or is it just mana oils
this is an off spec vault for sure so i mposting here
i have heroic prism and i kill spider moth girl eery week
socket angle?
what did your sim say?
is crafting a helmet worth?
sims are boring and dont account for me never playing assa in raid ever and barely assa in keys
then feelcraft away what does it even matter
seems like you have more feelings about it than any preference for objectivity
the main Q is taking dagger a waste basically
weapon is the biggest upgrade you can get on any spec as long as it's not off hand, usually
kinetic dunerunners for mog
no, its one of the 3 large stat slots
you dont want to sacrifice ilvl on it
helm/chest/legs all offer the largest stat allocation
you want max ilvl on them
vault loves me
look a all this american dudes with the early vault#
are we applying bleed / garrot on every mob ?
dagger was a 60k increase for me for sub and sin, even with a crafted 720 weapon
yeah imma probs just take the dagger cuz i dont wannt take a socket yet its too early
even tho itll juist drop from uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh loom
Yeah but you can benefit from it in all content until you get there
lily is good. neck is bis for sin
me kill loom weekly
im talking about the dagger sir
my point still stands. maybe even more
post vaults
if lily sims well, pick it up
i got myth crit mastery chest
Yeah I get that but it’s not a guaranteed drop or anything
everyone wants the agi dagger 
yar its probs just a vibes dagger angle
comprehension skills not maxed out.
is anyones?
if you are saying "i dont want to take the dagger because if it drops, ill get it. no other rogues in raid team" and you have prism so you want antena which everyone else wants, you should take another good trinket to hold you off, likely longer than a dagger
did you just insult my mom
cyklone cooked, welcome to assa chat
i didnt mean to i apologize
anyone knows if raidbots already does consider new 50% buff in raid
its bugged anyway
hard to tell if its even worth caring about rn
Consume the sac
pleasse drop netherprism tonight so i can get sacborod
plssss
if not i got my prism 😃
Please take the cursed stone idol and record yourself deleting it, then send it to a dh m+ player

lmao
i boosted a dh last week and didnt get a single piece of tier in my vault gg
i did get myth pacemaker which probably should be good?
damn verse mastery is simming super high in d slice for me
Im being forced to swap to sub for mythic loom prog because are other dps need there hands held....
lol
Go sub, dont target swap collect loot
cheers mate
Is Attuned to the Aether affecting poisons?
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Crazy coming from a Druid right now
myth lily and hero antenna
raidbots generally does not include these rep-rewards at all btw
it doesn't change anything except number go up, and implementing it would require that they turn it on or off depending on your sim type, which doesn't quite make sense to do
I mean
sims are optimized for double on use
but that sounds really cooked
do you just not have a good second trinket
yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeouch
Yeah my rogue gear is scuffed af

do you have myth of those slots
this is ass
Condolences



I'm 723/710 on trinkets, disc belt obv, the entire m+ row is track upgrade (hands would be cata hero->myth, boots are unusable obviously, the chest is a direct track upgrade)
I picked that chest from vault last week
On reset I can finally catalyze it and use it

frankly I might unironically take the belt (it also has avoidance) and just cope that I will be saving crazy crests in like 4 weeks

LEECH 
i had the same belt in my vault
now we simply HAVE TO
surely you got some other chest drop at 710 right
ig i had soulbinder neck
thats why you have 6/6 hero
ended up taking priory ring

I did what I must for araz dps check my child

this is my excuse
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skipping second intermission on prog kill is not trivial
yeah uh
we were rank 6 speed on our prog kill
wow so with myth tier gloves, thats a 1.4 millions dps increase
i pray to even be able to kill it at all this week
im surprised sims didnt want myth lily
sorry run that back
how much?
i mean if the tier is making 4p its being hyper inflated
so not a fair representation of myth gloves vs lily
lol
assassination good in melee comps?
yeah its just 4p baiting you
run the sim again with some random lfr tier gloves and suddenly that number disappears
do you have cloth gloves equipped or something
nope theyre tier gloves. but champion quality
you fucked the sim somewhere if its not obvious enough
link it
the simc thing or the raidbots with simc stuff in it?
the raidbots link of the screenshot you took
ok gimme a sec i have to run it again lol


its talents

the majority of that difference is fatebound st vs deathstalker m+
not the gloves
yeh

your equipped is an m+ build
also that helmet looks silly on a tauren
this is the actual comparison kinda
if you wanna make my a mog then go for it lmao i doubt i have anything worth while
sorry i'd rather jump off the empire state building with a firecracker shoved up my ass than make a mog for a tauren
any reason not to take a Myth track belt if it is simming higher ~1% than a myth track Pacemaker?
i think there's a belt drop in early mythic and you can't get myth track pacemaker anywhere but vault
good point
yeah plexus sentinel
So as long as I'm pooling energy for cds and minions (like Kingsbane with 1 shic) im fine?
thanks for the sanity check









idk