#assassination
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2945 smiles
dk fun?
real...
i only have rogue rn
i had survivability issues as rogue last season when i got to around 3300 rating
i had to reroll a dk to go even higher in keys
assassination rogue in s2 lived or died on your feint usage
i kept getting gcd locked sometimes out of using it or no energy and dying
i ragequit roguing
lol
dk just dumb
bring back free feint talent
if dks get fucking ams we should get free feint
dk's dont even need ams
alot of the time
as a plate wearer you can just tank a hit
then immediately death strike it back
ive been limit testing and dk's can generally survive just about anything
unfortunately as a frost dk
you run into the ret pally problem where if you have a shit tank
you immediately rip aggro and become certified offtank
unlike rogue where the damage is ramp for the first little bit so the tank has time to generate his aggro
double vanish pog dont trust logs 
bro done did a 100% parse
isn't it like 60% double vanish
last time i saw it was like 80% logs 2x lethality over double van, personally i think 2/2 subterfuge is a must on this fight
you probably need double vanish
becuase racist tanks are gonna be racist
you need your stealth openers on pulls
something dies in me when they grip the boss during my burst window, when u press ct but somehow it hits 2 targets of 3
assassination damage profile in a nutshell
assasination without the vanishes

wait i forgot a second peak coz theres one vanish still
yallget the picture
Advocating for both murlok.io and restealths in the same day
I'm amazed you're still alive
ur right i gotta control my shitposts
its getting outta hand
for the people who were watching whispyr last night what game was he playing before he had to hop on WoW to help with rotations?
nvm i remembered
i switched to rogue after some tittles on mage, and iits crazy how the bliz just forgive rogue
no fixxes
😂
what even is a fix, they did something to "fix" 4pc cd shennanigans but we all know its all a lie
thread has pins and stuff too

Ono
OH YES
Another lamb driven towards the unending cosmic slaughter
Happy vault day eve everyone
my first vault opening
@balmy condor should i macro my netherprism?
or is it better to actually just use it every 3min
depending on what's happening in the fight, sure, might be better
but generally should be every 3 min
but what is the difference exactly, since it keeps stacking while the buff is on
like is there actually a difference
no clue
lol
but fatebound has an extra cd on 3mins
so you prism with 3min
deathstalker you can just macro to dm
yea that makes sense
cause it's every 2 min
so unless sub has something similar to that, probably safe to macro
but I would check with the sub players
How do you play with netherprism in m+ as deathstalker? Do you just pump it with 2 min cds and never wait for max stacks?
Also does it decay outside of combat?
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It does not
It doesnt stack up though
But yes, you just use it with your deathmark
If you happen to delay your deathmark for a specific pull (or the mobs youre currently facing have like 20% left or something) then youll get some extra juice
So basically makes holding cds less punishing
sometimes
Do I just macro it to deathmark and forget about it?
I can’t imagine many situations you wouldn’t be using it with DM
Maybe some weird niche scenario where you want to DM a boss during execute but save prism for a huge aoe pull right after boss
Sounds like I should just macro it and forget about it considering I dont plan on doing any high keys
yes
That’s a sure yes then
Is it as good as a dungeon slice sim says or is it a little bit of bait? Basically should I try to get the Araz trinket instead?
anyone has a WA to see who u shold put the deathmark on while doing soul hunters??
in fact, a wa that you can click and it targets the mob would make wonders for me
hey how is tricks of the trade useful in pve? i get that its good for pvp but why should i ever use it in a raid setting?
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Saladbar got hands
gl
Just look at the ghost bro, how hard could it be

Dimensius got hands too
Not only in the sense that he is hard, but also that his hands literally cover my entire screen so i cant see anything
literally forearm gaming
Me dodging circles on the ground
ah yes visual clarity
The powder we used on razsageth to make her translucent was clearly too OP, cant have that
sometimes the epic vs clarity factor gets too strong on the designer's side and by sometimes I mean most of the times 
My favourite is the circles youre supposed to stand in to pull down your friends get covered by the "safe zone" circle
prism
prism
it's basically spot on 1 stack every 10 seconds
not all that random
word
why not
i'm not sure about that one
Prob not loomy, but soulbinder for sure
i dont even remember what changed about m soulbinder
you need to send balls into the cages?
to break them with the lines
Yes
idk have you seen people just chain flying into rocks?
myth loomi kinda hard on the healers
yeah but dimmy is hard on the intellect
the question is like do you believe in your healers to push buttons really hard
or do you believe in the general game sense of your raid
no, but i believe between me and 2 other peeps in our raid, that we can crush the dim sum platforms
What is the length of a GCD with 0 and with max haste, Is it 1.00 -.75 still
As an energy spec it’s always 1
ty
outlaw player I assume
lol
0.8 - 1
the gcd was changed years ago and i could not remember the numbers
with AR and haste or whatever
older player
yeah outlaw is aids though
shut down the channel
well... I mean I like outlaw
but I'm too old for that shit now
I have a time limit when I play it
I don't remember when they changed the gcd tbh
like Okarun, I can only go all out twice
Pre bfa or around then
they added most major cds to the gcd in bfa
is there a reason that hero isn't ogcd?
like, personally idgaf when someone presses it 90% of the time as a rogue but like
thank you that was the change
there's always that annoying conversation "who's pressing hero? I gota do ....x"
like bro, just press it?
peeps will borderline get into an arguement over who loses the single gcd to press hero, and then bitch and moan when I ask about NOT losing 8 seconds of downtime
Lust isnt even on gcd?
if it's not I'm even more mad
Stay mad 
im gonna get 3/8 m before aotc
get mad
is there any way where you can set a button hotkey to set your current target as focus target?
- make macro
/focus- assign macro to desired key
lemme try that
works like a charm
and 1 more thing regarding macros. is there any macro that selects the focus target when available but if there is no focus target it selects current target?
Yeah, /target [@focus,exists][]
I don’t know for sure if that will work, but it’s something along those lines
Might need a nodead in the first set of square brackets too
Otherwise could target a dead corpse
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S3 1st week M+10 BIG MOMMA assassinate i could reach avr 18~20M dps
but now why M+14/15 is decreased to 12~14?
just a singlarity focus bug?
Impossible to answer but I’m gonna go with no to the second question
Maybe on +14/+15 fights are longer and other dps did more dmg
so im using this macro to set focus on mouseover and clear focus:
/clearfocus
/focus [nomod,exists,nodead]mouseover
is there any way i can add a line here to make it so that if i dont mouseover anything it just sets my current target as focus?
the amount shouldn't drop so huge...
/focus [@mouseover,harm, exists][target]
/tm [@mouseover,exists][@target,exists] 7
Or bugs in assa tree
can take last line out if you dont want to put a marker on it
i thought it should be the bug occurs since week2
nicee but it doesnt clear focus anymore if i press it again. any way i can do that or not possible?
what do you need to clear focus for
did anyone report the singlarity focus bug to blizz forum?
basically need a button to set focus so i can dump cds in m+ into a focus target and then clear it so i can keep spreading dots without always hitting the focus target
or maybe i can write the macros differently so that they hit mouseover first then focus target if mouseover not available
can i pm you so we dont spam the sin chat?
Pretty sure yes.
Affli WL and DK rider also have bugs
blizz devs still no reply? hilarious...
Yeah maybe not yet found the root cause why is bugged and how to fix. I'm sure they work on it
FFS people the bugs aren’t that impactful, it’s not fucking 33% of our dps
TRUE, bro
If you didn’t know the bugs existed you wouldn’t know we had bugs
so i thought it should be the tier suit causes the bug
otherwise it can't be week3 damage far lower than week1
You’re comparing apples to oranges my guy, a 14/15 vs a 10, you probably don’t have the same comp or kill time
does 2 tier suit works properly on other heroic talents?
i see, but it's irregular: higher ilvl should keep going up, even dropping, it could be so huge decrease
Not true at all
not rly no
If you’re ranged stand is shit places, if people don’t interrupt them, they won’t be stacked under boss and you’ll do far less dos
week1 M+10 with week3 M+13/14, with ilvl++, it should keep in a decent range
right now 13-14 are barely relevant range keys anyway
Fight takes longer to get into execute, potentially your dots are dropping off the adds before they get low hp
10s dont even register
vanish gar to cheese the meters with IC
the padtech
I get that, but in a 10 they’ll die in one set, on a 14-15 if you have to recast you may not have a vanishing for the second set etc
yup true
depends always
need to evaluate the situation
thats why rogue isnt as easy as other classes
adaptation is key
Ilvl is not always the answer you have to show equal fight timers and comps to even begin comparing
considering the singlarity focus provide nearly 1/3 part of full damage, i thought it should be 15M or higher
not 12M
that seems to be acceptable
Wot

prolly whispyr can answer but highly doubt it matters or not
basicly irrelevant
im also confused
trying to find the perfect timing to bait stealthi again into a sin vs sub debate this tier but i get no solid data over it,whats best
racoon lord is lucky
lol
@red sonnet if you post a damage breakdown it’s pretty easy to work out a estimate for what you lose dpswise rather than overthinking how important the bug is
I’m just gonna assume caustic is about 30% of dps, and if your total is 15m, then we are asking what 5% of 4.5mil is which is 225k
You can go and wear old set for 225k if you want, but it’s really stupid
Also that’s even assuming old set doesn’t bug which not even known, so I just want to clarify that before someone takes my comment out of context
true, but i just wanna find out the origin of bug is tier suit or not
then for M+, i've already given up🥲
this is not a good patch for assassinate
It’s been a pretty okay patch for me so far
We’re good in keys, we have fate bound to play in st raid
in cn-retail, rogues application approval rate is under 2%
i tested for about 3 day
50~70 register = 1 approval
even in M+10~12
as i have all M+14 cleared
Lack of tool kit. No BL no BR no HS nothing
As DPS if your class brings BL easy invite
TRUE
even the evoker
Rouge DPS is good in M+ for all 3 specs
And in this season classes and speccs are good balanced. So can almost invite all speccs
Good but is it good •enough•
Yes until +15 100% sure
As sin you play bleed build in M+ on Boss fights you will lose against classes like Frost DK, WL Arcane Mage or Sub rouge.
So depends who is in your grp and what Logs say
dawnbreaker?
in dawnbreaker, assassinate is embarassing
lowest single target damage, and singlarity bug causes the triple elite slay speed is far lower than S1&S2
Yes others too because of Boss fights.
Slightly overdramatic there. Rashanan sucks, rest of it is fine.
this ^
All speccs cleared +17 or higher
that doesn't reflect the meetingstone meta
even the discrimination
how should i carry the team? only higher aoe damage?
more st comp
with such a shitty bug, the single target low is LETHAL
singlary focus bug
thats not how that works lol
singlary focus bug -> lower aoe frame damage -> more creep time -> single target low hurts
it that okay?
not really
??
dawn is just assas like w2orst dungeon
do you understand what the bug is with singular focus?
cause all your bleeds still work with it
just not caustic
Its 4℅ or so on aoe
Like, its not that bad
Dawn isn't our best dungeon but let's not be overly dramatic here
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Is there any one have update on that Caustic spatter do not work on the singular focus?
So fellas in bleed build M+ on opener, am i supposed to try and garrote rupture every mob? Or is there a number where i’m better off just spamming envenoms on main target and let caustic splatter do the rest?
So i know the opener. Which ends up putting rupture garrote on circa 6 targets and CT on all of them, then we go into deathmark and at this point should i start spamming envenoms or go back and try to dot more?
shiv work on 8 target and the 4 set work on shiv, so at least 8 target to maximum your 4 set damege.
Ok but there’s no point in trying to dot everything in like a huge pull say 1st floodgate pull for example
So hit like 8-9 targets with full bleeds and hit the rest with just CT and then caustic splatter?
Is that the right way to think about it?
Ok thanks. Cuz i was trying to full bleed as many mobs as possible and it felt like i would never get to the envenom spam part because there were so many targets
your right, if can't make sure that fast make 8 target have rupture dot 7 is good enough.
still works on ct just not caustic
streets
dawn's boss fight type hit sub's sweet point..
I don't know about you guys, and this is the first time I've been affected by something like this, but I went all in on assassination this season in a new guild and I feel like all the effort has been for nothing. I have to play sub on most bosses in progress even though I am alot worse at that spec, and the fact that Blizzard isn't doing anything about the bugs that assassination currently has is really bothering me.
Of course, fixing the bugs won't change the fact that sub is simply better in certain fights, but how can it be that such bugs exist for so long without anything being done about them?
literally yes. i played mage for the most of my raiding career
boooooooo mage
well you see
mage is a class that blizzard loves
and respects
so they put a lot of time and effort into it
making sure the class experience is nice and smooth
rogue on the other hand is the class thats least played next to evokers (might be less)
so the amount of fucks that they give is approximately 0
fortunatly though, assi is probably the most loved (at least of recently) in the rogue spec list
so bugs will be fixed soon ™
to be fair though, this is probably the worst assi has been in a while
in regards to bugs
What’s wrong with assa on prog
He's here, fucking run boys
yes. like, we killed m fractilus yesterday and had like 20 pulls. and of all times, I completely desync during the kill try
played sub on forgeweaver and now on soulhunters. could play bleed build on soulhunters but i am just to frustrated with the specc
Was your guild struggling with manifestation damage on forge
Its fine
atleast the manifestions just before the intermission
Are any of the assa bugs affecting M+? I did all 13s with sub and maybe it's time to return back to assa
Your guilds struggling with manifestation damage and you can’t play assa? Tell your guild to get good
The singular focus one but its like, 4℅ or something
I forget the numbers
Singular focus not working with caustic loses you a fair bit of prio, otherwise it’s fine
I mean you are not doing much as sub on the last adds befor intermission anyways

Also true
excuse you, I beat the tanks in intermission
but still. atleasat i do not have to deal with the desync. same shit on soulbinder in our reclears
We got araz down last night. It was an experience 
Well prio is the reason I stick to sub at this moment. Helps melt down the big beetles in ara kara 
2 hours of waiting for the pull where somebody doesn't spawn an add in fucking narnia
the moment we got through the 2nd intermission, boss was dead
had to send cds on the pillar tho
bc it wouldnt have died otherwise
Moment we got TO second intermission boss died
Our issues were 90% people being unable to move to the add spawn point
but they lose up time ! 
Meanwhile I was losing the will to live 
why do mech when can do dam!
don't worry soul hunters is just as much of a clusterfuck

I asked to be benched for it

I want the break man
TRUE
Optional boss
P1 is so fucking brutal
I'm waiting for our guild to employ the usual strategy
dont forget to buy your inky black potions
For what?
Only get to bosses when theyve been nerfed to oblivion
Wago.io is a database of sharable World of Warcraft addon elements
makes it easier to see spirit
are u insane,why would u ditch mage for rogue?
if anything rogues do the exact opposite
But im also raidcalling
i wanna be akio raidcalled
so i look at the timer and know to be aware
had alot of fun playing outlaw in keys and decided to switch classes for once. then we had no rogue for s2 tww so i switched
That will probably never happen
never say never

outlaw is fun in keys but rogue is on the melee category,alot more competitive
some times rogues even being exceptional dont get a spot or just perform bad
it happens even on experienced rogues
so dont take it personally
That reminds to, to make an Emote of Akios Smirk face
we mostly play guild keys and i had no problem in raid so far. i switched from outlaw to assa this season and i regret that
also that hurt my feelings

can't you?
like, aside from missing out on loot
ye morning blindness
If cant kill Soul Hunters, you sure as hell aint killing Nexus-King at this point
but yea
u are taking advantage of lovable little animals to create discord emojis,shame on you
lul
also reshii boots
i mena Reshii Boots are unlocked for Vualt via Fractillus
Just get them from that like me

riiiight

vault giving people what they want

I've heard of that


Does anyone have a poison weak aura that shows me when my poision has below 10 min duration? I'm tired of applying 4 poisons mid raid-fight because i dont notice 🥲
So if I don't have any gilded atm. Can an item be recrafted with gilded? Or should I just wait
so to change this last slot from M 7 to mythic 10, i need to run 3 more mythic 10 dungeons?
correct
phew on that note, goodnight🫡
you don't need any crests for recrafts as long as it was already crafted with the crest upgrade
so like if it's 720 ilvl, you can recraft to anything you'd like at 720
if it's 703 you would obviously need to use crests to go up to 720
My question is more so to raise the ilvl after
yeah no
Yeah this was the question basically
raising the ilvl requires you give it the enchanted crest
To raise the ilvl with the crests after
I have never tried tbh so I didn't know
but you'd still need to give it the enchanted crest
that's why usually for wrists you use the free hero enchanted crest you get from AOTC
and then just sit on that
Hm I see
This crafting system itself is still foreign to me tbh. I don't have much experience with it
Thankfully im assuming alch stone is still an alch craft so I can do that myself instead of making an order
I haven't played assa since s1, it's basically played the same when it comes to CDs right
Doesn't look like shiv timings have changed with tier set
Same timings as last season, I don't think we were dry shivving in season 1 so that'd be the main change
Ohh that's a thing now?
Yeah, shiv with lingering darkness and darkest night
For the GIGA envenom
And only 1 x shiv for the solo kingsbane
Do I just craft a second dagger if I don't have a myth track one? I already have wrists
Nah.
But for ST we go FB right
Offhand is a bad slot
Correct
and am I correct in saying during non DM KB we use our only shiv at the end of KB
Why so? And what else should I craft?
As in basically whenever it has 50 stacks
You are!
WOW LOOK AT M
Should i craft hands and use catalyst for chest?
OH provides the lowest amount of stats on any gear
or something like that
Well, shiv the last 8 seconds of KB
it's only needed to press abilities
But ye
I see
!oh
biS lists are not helpful towards gearing yourself. In order for BiS items to truly be BiS, all items in the list have to be obtained at that level exactly, or else it doesn't make sense. Missing a socket for example would shift your stats slightly. On top of this, all stats being good on Assassination means there are currently over 500 "BiS" combinations that are within margin of error. You should always compare your gear through top gear or droptimizer instead.
Pre-raid or Pre-season BiS from world content is especially not helpful, and we do not maintain any lists of these types. These are absolute meaningless bait for gear that you will be replacing the moment the season comes out. Use Top Gear/Droptimizer to compare against your character.
!macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.
#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane
Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket
No worries. And just shiv before the deathmark kingsbane and you're golden
Perfect and with tea now?
Is it macroed?
Yeah just macro it and forget
!tea
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.
#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane
Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket
I had this Parse yesterday on a P3 19% Dimensius HC wipe. Man if all our DDs would have survived, and we killed him faster, this could have been even higher 
I was so proud of myself 
For someone that plays WoW for like 2 months i think thats decent
Do you play sub by any chance?
As I was going to ask what do you do for stat swapping or do you lean more towards sub sims for stats since assa doesn't really mind about 2ndary stats
I just avoid haste but I'm not confident enough to fully try sub on prog
We try lomithar with 3 heals
HC?
Ah
The main healer guy, practically an officer said as a raider our opinions have no meaning
Fatebound leans more toward crit
But i think its fine to craft stuff for Sub
It hurts Sub more to craft for Sin, than the other way around
When i play bleed i press this in st right?
Keep bleeds up
Press envenom when all bleeds are up
Press shiv when rdy (hold one for dry shiv)
Have 2 shivs rdy when i go into deathmark
Or is there something i miss?
eh you can also be above 150 energy for sanguin but idk if u do it still
but basically yeah
Dont bother with the sanguin e
sanguine minmax is like 1% and even building combo points with mutilate is higher prio than it so it’s basically just fake news
just spam envenom

Its not 1%, its like 0.3% but
thought it was 1 oopsy
Either way theres too many conditions for it to be applicable
So people fuck it up
Not worth bothering with
it's non-existent and incredibly difficult
I just hit buttons it's fine
like
INCREDIBLY difficult
to do it properly you would need to balance yourself barely under 50% near constantly and then just fully stop and afk whenever you get like 4 conditions to line up
it is
actually so hellish
what should i uber eats for dinner
i got this place near me that does really nice charcoal chicken
yes
wtf easter egg moment. saw ur prog yesterday big gl with dimmy
just saw u on meters and thought wtf are there 2?
what is the difference on mythic soulbinder? more adds?
You have to hit the pillars with the orbs as well as the line
knockback with pools and hit orbs on prisons
But its pretty much the same as heroic
and more hurt type shi
Damn, I can never get damage in in heroic so saw ur 9mil and wondered how
I guess adds will live more of your burst
cba logs on add fights
but mythic is significally more hp atleast in my groups so more dam
Do you delay on pull cds to catch the first pack of adds?
So then is nothing wrong basicly in the things i do? I ask bcs i think im "suck" i know assa st is bad in m+ but sometimes i fighting with the tank especialy when i use my cds to kill a pack before boss and i have nothing rdy
Also random question, if I were to make a character on a us realm (not oce) would it default me to us realm or from where I connect
And i dont wanna hold cds for too long
SINGLE TARGET TOO LOW

don't be baited whispyr, i've already had a lengthy discussion about how singular focus isn't 33% of dps
it's beating sub on 90% frac, soulbinder, loom, plexus
it's barely behind on forgeweaver, still being a top 6 spec (playing fatebound, so literally 0 funnel)
what low single target are you fucking seeing
that's also factually untrue
it's bad but it's not tank dps
that's just skill issue
but again, none of that was the conversation you pinged me about
fury frostDK nearly 4M ps, tank is about avr 1.9M~2M ps, assassinate simulated ~270 with ilvl 712 with raidH2+H4/6 items
isn't too low?
dead spec
you know the only reason we do that low single target is to do more to add packs?
and it balances out
m+ isn't just bosses,
also take adds onto a boss and suddenly there is no issue at all
but add packs assassinate is only good, not top
Someone pass the popcorn 🙊
the time you saved on add packs, can never afford the squad clean the creeps&wiating for stealth, nor the pure single target time extend
fr, i sometimes do more on pulls where i have no cd's than when i do
whats the consensus on mythic loomithar adds? I've been called out for not doing enough dmg on them. I do swap out whenever I can, but I cant really do much dmg. I did around 80m on our best pull
assi rogue the trash king
assi rogue the trash king
👑

Not our job. Like if everyone is swapping and they still ain't dying then sure, try and do what you can do
whoever called you out doesn't know how rogue works
But the tangles not dying isn't really our thing
What if Assassination just did everything well all the time? That would be much better I think 
But raid leaders are dumb
The Aussie classic btw
that's mages
raid leaders on guilds progging loom rn i might kms
based parmy enjoyer and not parma
idk what half of those words mean or what simulated ~270 is or what H2+H4/6 is supposed to be, google translate doesn't understand gibberish sadly. Regardless, here's 3 high level logs from full single target fights
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/njqWzvtGmC4yw9b6?fight=21&type=damage-done&pull=7
And if you look at the overalls, you look at big pulls, you look at big momma or any cleave fight like demo duo, the first boss in priory, you can easily see assa keeping up, doing more than other specs, or completely obliterating other classes in the game
Please go educate yourself instead of pinging me 2 hours later from an entirely unrelated conversation just to complain about your delusional world view, I don't have the time or the patience to deal with that shit
can i ping you about random gorilla facts?
30 dollarydoos though
Jesus
Better be a good parmo for that money
sadly yeah
get the fuck out of here
Make me
that's even worse than parma
that's hilarious: yeluo is not a common player, with nearly no raid drops, with common skills, and he paid for other 19 raid players only for his full drops of Mythic RAID
👀
Parmo, or Teesside Parmesan, is a dish originating in Middlesbrough, England, and a popular item of take-away food in the Teesside area as well as Northern England. It consists of a breaded cutlet of chicken or pork topped with a white béchamel sauce and cheese, usually cheddar.
The name is a reference to the American dish chicken parmesan, whi...
Its different apparently
??????
its the white sauce instead of tomato sauce
and, arcane 4.9M, assi 3.38M; frostDK 4.62, assi 3.37M; frostMage 4.35, assi 3.0M. is that good enough?
what the fuck is white sauce
Bechemel probs
oh
?
i mean i guess but then its a parmo not a parmy
actually fuck off
closer to a lasangna than a parmi
That's just my local version of it
insulting?
A parmo
did you know that the scientific name of the western lowland gorilla (which is a critically endangered species) is gorilla gorilla gorilla
I would like to sign up to further gorilla facts
i mean i guess if you live in the UK
oh you want some mushy peas?
Not normally
get one of these bad boys in ya
Normally just chips, maybe a salad if its posh
If you think assa is so shit why play the spec
i was watching a streamer play one of those food comparison games, and the amount of stadium food that had mushy peas on it lol
Because I've done bad things in life and I feel like I need to atone
gorillas are split into two types. Western and eastern
Mushy peas are great though
That's not mushy enough, that's just pea soup
Omg i love that there is a discussion going on and people are yapping about food in between. Actually lmfao 😂
yeah it's called a pie floater
Important business
standard day in sin channel
If I'm having a pie just give me the Wigan kebab
on topic is actually off topic
Thanks for making me laugh lol

wtf is on top of that pie
Guys he’s been typing for a while
crust
I’m scared
how do we think fb assa does on nexus king sallad or w/e he is called. im stuck on sub but im certainly a better assa player. we kinda weak on adds so kinda have to go sub. but thoughts?
oh i see it, i thought the base was a paper bag HAHA
Yes, I am insulting you in fact. You pinged me out of nowhere with a conversation for 2 hours ago, a RAID conversation, that you were not a part of, just to complain about single target in mythic+. You are rude to waste my time like this, and then completely ignore the evidence I showed to prove that assa is totally fine in mythic+ and timing high level keys. If you don't want to play assa because of it's low single target, then fucking don't. But don't join the discord, ping me for some unrelated garbage, and waste my fucking time and energy when you could go look up any of this information on your own. You are not the first person to complain about the single target damage, and you will not be the last. I am not god, I can't fix any of your complaints at the snap of a finger. Assassination is really good in Aoe, and pretty bad in single target, that is currently the spec's tuning. Deal with it. If you want to waste my time and annoy me instead, I can assist you in leaving the discord

Just bring arcane mage to carry you in pure ST
Gorilla arms are longer than their logs
Just only do weekly 10s where nothing matters 
what was the tech ages ago? hearth out and swap sub for final boss
That's my plan
The rookery tech
i was thinking back to necrotic wake
dungeon port out on the dragon boss
Fuck that dungeon
Jokes on you, you havent seen my Arcane Mage

He has a mage. Point and laugh.
Going from melee to ranged for m+ is so relaxing
i wonder if there's ever a tech to triple rogue spec in a key
like do first pull as assi
swap to sub
then outlaw for last boss or something
yeah start as outlaw, break a finger / key, and then swap to sin, and need to swap sub for final boss
my mate used to do it in HoV.
Fire for first pull up to first boss.
Frost for first boss and all the way up to last boss
Arcane for last boss
yes this is the peak mage performance
What the fuck😂
this looks based af
hello pumpers
Mage without Glacial Spike
What year is it
HoV year
whenever Hov was in teh rotation
hi pamper
it was kinda only doable because we rolled with a warlock as well
so we could summon him
twice in the key

guys on m+ is there any way i dont do 2M dps 😄 on ST ?

Make sure you will entre wit DM and try to get some adds for rupture buff…
just save shivs for deathmark you can't do more
also if you have trash to rupture do it
your entire ST dps hinges on your deathmark, you have to get two shivs, a vanish, improved garrote, trinket, potion, everything on your deathmark
you also cannot go into a boss fight without deathmark, that would be extremely bad
usually if you go into the fight with a deathmark, you get another one in execute
that's where your big damage is
you're just playing for the big deathmark window at the start, and the huge deathmark window in zoldyck range at the end
about the keep over 150 energy ? is it worth ? or just better to starve
no, just starve
will do it thanks... wont hit sub numbers but at least not fighting with the tank...
(also if you have netherprism and its at like <6 stacks, just hold the prism for the execute deathmark, you'll get a fully stacked prism during execute)
ye playing prism w pacemaker
netherprism is a myth
you said myth netherprism?

that's exactly what I said
no lie, jelly af
netherprism, or neverprism
first pack of the dungeon we use it on 3 stacks or just hold it ?
to get 18 for the next
Hold
depends if the next time you wanna use it is 3 mins away or not
For sub with double use its perfect but for assa i guess we shouldn’t bind it into DM
as i understand it, if your dm is 2 mins send it with dm, if your dm is 1.5 mins send it with vanish every second dm
holy hell, bring up disc to see this, did someone try to box with god and realise there arms were just a little too short?
you will never have an equally skilled Sub's pure ST numbers with the current design and in Bleed build
like it's just not how these things work out
also lf tips for Avanoxx specifically
I've been sending Vanish into bug spawns to clear them more efficiently, is that any good?
i do that, if i have to swap
we had a convo like 3-4 hours ago about someone feeling bad cause they felt forced to play sub on a lot of fights even though they prepped assassination, and the convo was basically "what's wrong with assassination", etc
This herbie rolls in and pings me in response to me asking what's wrong with assassination on prog, and says "LOW SINGLE TARGET DAMAGE". So I pulled out the receipts from loom, fract, plexus, soulbinder, araz (top 6 boss damage spec even without the funnel from deathstalker), etc, and I'm like ????? what are you on. Turns out they're bitching about mythic+ single target and not anything remotely about raid, so I pull up second boss priory and last boss floodgate, and like yeah it's bad but it's barely behind other stuff, and I tell him hey if you go to an AoE pull or big momma or any multi-target fight like demo duo or momma or first boss priory, assa is slamming, and they're all timing high keys. Bro just will not stop bitching
ngl I always have to swap, very few pugs can clear them well enough without all hands on deck for +12 and up
ye makes sense... just enjoying both specs on different dungeons
i had a back and forth for like 30 mins of them not accepting that singular focus bug is only like 200k dps on his 15m parse and not 5m
Do i always hold on vanish for my deathmark window in st fatebound in raid?
ye
rofl, I mean... it is what it is? overall throughput rocks
I'm not sure why people get hung up on it in m+
it's not like we all rock in there using semi raid builds for "sick boss dam" lol
diabolical, I'll make sure to just toss em to the curb next time, bro has been here for literally like 20 hours and already started two dumbshit arguments
the pacing is crazy
people just want a reason to complain or explain their low dps
and for some they are unwilling to accept it is their play
Idk i feel like single target on raids should be buffed
Marksmanship destro fury doing better dps while being easier
Doesnt feel right
fairly new to rogue but how do i manage energy and not run out of it ?
Especially as outlaw or sub
i mean rouge in general is about 25% more work for same damage normally. enjoy this chill assa
As a rogue main yes
U dont alt much i think
i do quite a bit tbh
?
So u should know how easy it is to hop on Frost destro or ele
dont spam 2 much when cds inc basically
i don't normally play casters, but i do play spriest occasionally, i think the dot uptick playstyle just clicks with me
like in raid. main purpose is to get enveoms out. hold ur bleeds. but if kb is comin up u can chill for 4-8 sec or smth
also like there is kinda no use to just spam to insta starve. u can chill a bit between envenoms
specially during downtime between cds
Also they have cooler animations, midnight no rework is criminal
so its easier to pick assa than the other 2 ?
Ye
depends on what you find easier
Not even close
i know people who cannot wrap their heads around pandemic timers
Wa fix pandemic
sub is 85% cooldown reliant. so eg if there is adds is really specific timings u have to figure out. outlaw is very hard to know perfectly what to press and why imo
mainly been a mage main for 2 -3 xpac so i just wanted to new meele spec to try
you'd think so, but brains are just wired differently, they prefer reactionary play to planning
also sub can be pretty rough when it comes to new rouges with dance and when how to use. and if u fuck up anything its usually really punishing
outlaw kinda badge (sorry)
m+ is fun with outlaw tho
?
alot of people who come in here, don't grasp the concept of energy capped vs gcd capped, and that's why alot struggle to have energy at times it's needed
rouge is niche but try both what u enjoy rizey
Photoshopped
sure thank you ❤️
You know what, i even have the Soul Hunter Mythic Boots
You are stacked bro
i traded away my heroic soulhunter boots to a guildie cause he had non and i had normal ones already
sadge 🙁
fun rules here is check pins and wowhead since they are really well explained and talk about current stuff. but most people are happy to help including me.
spooned
um on it figuring this out XD
Yeah i was lucky
also amazing guide from whispyr eith encylopedia and shindig too
Nice
its not rough when you understand core concepts
I’ve gotten them on
Champ I think?
P sure mythic boots out sim it, as in basic mythic boots
doubt that
i wish my mythic belt would outsim the fucking disc
I’m still bracing myself for the inevitable M+ level where I need to swap off survival
That level is never
you can dm me if u need help. but i really recomend whispyrs 3h long guide or a shorter one which shindig did
True
Still not for a couple anyway
Done half of the 15s, only problem is pug queue times are reaching around an hour, and out of the 4 15s I’ve done, 3 of them are the “easy” keys
Hi all, I'm trying to create a kick macro that kicks my focus target when I have one or kicks my current target when I don't. Doesn't seem to working though. Please help!
#Showtooltip
/cast [@focus,exists] Kick
/cast Kick
/cast [@focus,exists][] Kick```
Awesome, thanks! Will test it out
Worked, thanks!
f@ck man
That’s gay
lost whispyr's nuking
rekt
Wait what happened
no problem with gay ppl yo
ping him about it, can reenact
u crazy im gonna get nuked

hey, my dick may be shorter, but atleast it's slimmer
Yes
Not even gonna share them?

I’d love that forge
my vault's bugging tonight, i get to pick 2 items i can feel it
I got Froge and Prism the same day
on both first kills
Because the DH in the Loot Council told them its needed for sub !
Nexus king
Fair
I’m still on loony
*loomy
We could kill it this week but some healers are away
what are your ilvls?
i wish that were me
710, haven't even killed H dimensius yet
Man rogues have been scuffed for me since leigon
im like 200 Gilded in deficit
Rotations are all sorts of garbage now, my poor mind
and thats without next vault
i thought i was doing well being runed of the harbinger or whatever it is
my mage did it 709 
oh yeah it's not too far away, just waiting for team mates to learn it i tihnk
just be a mage,be pretty,make a table,buff then intellect
press some barrages,magi on the adds
be the good person
im raiding in 2 aotc teams, one is one night a week prog
managed to full clear up to dim, and prog to 30% in p3 in one night
i've enjoyed it, super happy i decided to main sub
saladaar as sub makes anything worth it
😂
11th dps going into add phase, into gapping everyone by like 3mil dps by end of fight XD
Random melee question, is there any plater plug-in or setting that will dim/fade a nameplate if they're outside of melee range? I have a hard time discerning sometimes in bigger packs/trash pulls
pretty sure jundies only shows you the platers youre in combat with
Yeah but I can be in combat with something 30y away and it'll show just as prominently on the screen. I imagine there's not a setting but I don't know addon tech anymore
no issues here XD
clappin' them cheeks
netherprism is some kinda drug
You think that’s silly, here’s phase 1 araz vs phase 3 araz for the 15% burn
Yah, nether + caustic + execute + giga kaboom
It’s not even full stacked prism, I used the full stacked prism on the amp 
Holy

can we get a zoldick emote i have to replace deathstalker
All them blindside procs in execute phase clearly 
Encounter doesn't end if the boss doesn't die 
ethical funnel that doesn't funnel cause bugged
I barely got to pad in p3 araz, the others padded instead 
Bastards
Also, MM hunter doing 11 mil boss damage in p2, did he just highroll to fuck?

Average mm hunter gameplay tbh
netherprism+execute maybe a juciy proc ig
11 mil is wild still
all of the bugs rogues currently have
damn nice
true
FEATURES
i bet silksong has more bugs
... Nice
wait is it 11m dps during damage amp?
Silk comes from bugs, so that makes sense
i gotta get better at rogue
All of p2
Damage amp included but not solely the amp





