uh ok thanks than i will sim it like that from now on 🙂
#assassination
blissful pumice
cosmic robin
Go for a route sim
blissful pumice
how do u do that? 😄
cosmic robin
Expert Sim enabled and copy paste the Dungeon Tools route in the footer
digital venture
9 days since the last pined message. 
desert crest
Just rewatched the bug video and am I correct in saying that in m+ the total loss from bugs is only something like 3-4%? If u play follow the blood
Cause the only bugs affecting m+ would be fatal intent + caustic not going into singular focus
quasi ledge
Any useful tricks of the trade macro out there?
main bridge
!tott
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Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0
As soon as it falls off to cover DM. In solo KB you cover the last 8 seconds of KB
brisk forge
Go for a route sim
No
desert crest
Your KB gets max stacked very fast with DM active. Last 8 sec is only relevant for dry KB where u only get max stacks with like 4-5 sec left on KB
frozen glacier
zenith elm
I have a roethar mythic log kills
could anyone tell me if i did anything wrong ?
(ps: my RL told me to dps the boss)
earnest remnant
who now?
zenith elm
rou'ethar
earnest remnant
the fuck is that
surreal stump
Post the log
main bridge
I dunno who that is but no one can help if you don’t link logs
zenith elm
ooooh
surreal stump
Rofl
earnest remnant
LMFAO
zenith elm
for us its rouethar
earnest remnant
nah thats golden
zenith elm
hahaha
earnest remnant
10/10
zenith elm
whoops
earnest remnant
nah thats just zac and his multiple personalities
zenith elm
i got targeted by two silk mechanics, so i needed to get away from boss sometimes
I am the belgian Zac
which means i got chocolate and french fries
gilded oasis
zenith elm
but yeah, if you like the fries in your own country? dont eat fries from belgium
zenith elm
<a:NOTED:1154029517816479805>
so first, you need to use beef grease
cook them for 7-10 min at 200 degrees
and then you let them rest, and you cook them again for 3-5 min
the frier need to be at 200 degrees, it needs to be HOT instantly
and you need the good kind of potatoes
gilded oasis
whats the good kind
zenith elm
let me check
hexed harbor
i wake up every day hoping theres a new pin 
hexed harbor
are we going to shut down the rogue server till they give us what we want 
fallow canopy
i wake up every day hoping theres a new pin <a:saddies:1112034416743678033>
Monkey paw curls 
zenith elm
are we going to shut down the rogue server till they give us what we want <:Hmm:...
what do we want?
i'm happy with ass spec rn
zealous moth
are we going to shut down the rogue server till they give us what we want <:Hmm:...
We could but i don't think enough people play rogue for it to matter
zealous moth
i'm happy with ass spec rn
Like 15 bugs fixed
zenith elm
Yeah
zenith elm
I WANT DEATHMARK APPLYING TO THE PLAYER NOT THE MOB
that would be insane
hexed harbor
for the bug in ass to go away 
zealous moth
Set literally breaks a hero tree talent
zenith elm
yeah that ok, we're fucked with bugs lol
zenith elm
did anyone looked at my log? xD
gilded oasis
I thought the raccoon was
zealous moth
In my lane, focused, moisturized, unbothered, fliping tails
earnest remnant
I thought the raccoon was
do i look like i play assa?
fuck am i gonna be able to help with
fallow canopy
Yes
gilded oasis
do i look like i play assa?
you look like you got an assa 
earnest remnant
i do got a fat bunda
zealous moth
Dayum
gilded oasis
Did you see my racoon friend
earnest remnant
from all those squats
zenith elm
racoon lover aleert
gilded oasis
im leaving this log in french
zealous moth
did anyone looked at my log? xD
Needs more uptime 
zenith elm
cool
zealous moth
Jk, noice
zenith elm
i'll make sure i do
zenith elm
im leaving this log in french
oui oui baguette
main bridge
cunning needle
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gilded oasis
downtime is just an unfortunate thing when you get mechanix not much to do about it except try to milk and run out late but that can get dangerous and cant use cloak for that if you are on a soak.
Nothing blaringly bad.. Most your KBs dont have an envenom buff rolling before KB (we still do that right?)
Idk why Im heping im actually bad at the game and I just want some fries
points de combos
I like how Energie is just Energy with more letters
zenith elm
downtime is just an unfortunate thing when you get mechanix not much to do about...
Kb without envenom? damn
i'm bad 🙂
yeah we still do, im just silly
uhm
for me i have envenom buff when i KB
og no you're right
first KB i forgot to envenom
gilded oasis
first KB was good on opener
gilded oasis
Oh ya
zenith elm
idk how ppl have 95+ percent of envenom uptime
gilded oasis
they're cheating im sure
zenith elm
and like 80 percent of double envenom uptime damn
i'll need to investigate what they do better
glossy light
Do you track double envenom uptime to minmax?
zenith elm
i do not, i send when i have enough CP
it may be why i'm not at such high envenom uptime
mmmm
gilded oasis
I had 91% envenom on my last kill
glossy light
Im scared to check my envenom uptime, i just press it whenever i can and dont worry about it
gilded oasis
wait yours says 93.5% unless im looking at the wrong place
warm vortex
Just depleted my 6th 14 ara kara today
gilded oasis
warm vortex
because someone DCed on final boss
main bridge
final boss makes me want to DC too
warm vortex
Im so fucking beyond tilted right now
unborn rain
real
glossy light
91,3% for me on loom
warm vortex
I've been doing this all day
fresh kelp
i had 95 on my last kill and im just zugzug build spending
waxen oyster
yeah i had 94%
fresh kelp
dont think theres any holding for uptime you should be doing
glossy light
Same
normal mist
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warm vortex
Istg depleting because of a DC is up there in terms of tilt factor
onyx pond
How hard is it to create a counter for how many days the bugs are not fixed? 
fallow canopy
embrace the bugs
vague mirage
Are you shutting dcord down? Someone somewhere thinks that somehow works in getting some attention to our somewhat dire situation...
dapper halo
if we are crafting a neck, we are doing this, yes?
balmy condor
Are you shutting dcord down? Someone somewhere thinks that somehow works in gett...
That someone thinks wrong
fallow canopy
Are you shutting dcord down? Someone somewhere thinks that somehow works in gett...
surely
main bridge
if we are crafting a neck, we are doing this, yes?
well...that's a necklace....we can't see anything else about it
warm vortex
also 7th deplete now
dapper halo
so i guess ill get that crafted, i already got dagger and bracers, so no embelishment this time
dapper halo
aw dookie
main bridge
some kind of weird French food
onyx scroll
main bridge
we are not doing that
royal lantern
do people REALLY think that a shity class discord closing down is the reason ret got a buff?
main bridge
idk man the joke is so tired at this point i just want to stop seeing it
dusty phoenix
We still live in a timeline
royal lantern
We still live in a timeline
maybe you do
for me, time is just a suggestion and i decided to ignore it
imagine being bound to the laws of reality, lmao
main bridge
spice spire
Call me the laws of reality
main bridge
bro is rocking the infinity gauntlet
spice spire
dapper halo
thanos was right
autumn bloom
Is there a nice plater profile available somewhere here?
rotund oak
i mean i know claims like that ending up in jail 😂
ashen zenith
@autumn bloom use !wa
tall cradle
do we still dish out 5 ruptures and go into envenoms or do we try to coat everything in bleeds with bleeds build ?
autumn bloom
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autumn bloom
dope thanks
jolly abyss
is assas still bugged?
dapper halo
neck and ring was neck and neck, like 5k difference
fallow canopy
neck and ring was neck and neck, like 5k difference
pun intended?
marsh fjord
is assas still bugged?
real comet
do most of you swap between sub/assa based on the boss? or is that something thats only necessary at the highest level?
real comet
just slam assa for all 8?
zealous moth
It can be nice during mythic progression for araz and soulbinder but
If your raid requires you to swap to sub then there are probly like 7 dps just sleeping on adds
somber sparrow
mostly fatebound assassination for every boss but soul hunters
real comet
im not raiding mythic yet, was just curious what higher level players were doing
zealous moth
mostly fatebound assassination for every boss but soul hunters
If you're talking for heroic, this
Atp most groups are nuking adds
So you are losing a bit of dmg by going ds over fb
somber sparrow
like add caustic instead of internal bleeding for fights with adds that will survive for a while like nexus prince platform
zealous moth
Yesterday i was talking to a guy with the same issue as me on heroic
All purples except on araz bc adds are living for 1 second
Just go fb with cs and you're good
real comet
thanks
zealous moth
On mythic you may want to go ds still
unreal sparrow
Testing around assa in Keys. I know pure ST isnt the best, but right now i am sometimes struggling to beat the Tank in DPS on Boss Fights.
Do we try to stay above 150 Energy for Bonus dot DMG?
fallen arch
There will be a bug when pins are asked stop fixing
zealous moth
Testing around assa in Keys. I know pure ST isnt the best, but right now i am so...
Not really
fallen arch
It’s not good no but you should be above tank yes
zealous moth
Dot damage us mostly relevant on adds
fallen arch
Unless he has like 30 ilvls on you
normal mist
Hopefuly he knows about st CT
zealous moth
What about it?
zealous moth
Fr?
fallen arch
Yes
zealous moth
I never do lol
normal mist
fallen arch
Yo don’t hate us we’re just the messenger
zealous moth
I mostly do it during dm
normal mist
I mostly do it during dm
you do it in all scenarios
zealous moth
Makes sense
warm vortex
but oh my god i had like 7 ara kara depletes back to back
normal mist
A bleed is good in a bleed build
warm vortex
and kick from 2 keys cause melee hunter
zealous moth
I guess it makes st a bit less terrible
normal mist
you spam less envenoms overall in st
midnight atlas
any cook for 15ish streets?
floral mural
any cook for 15ish streets?
sub
midnight atlas
another opinion?
unreal sparrow
Important question, what are you doing in ST?
Holding garrote and rapture on the target, Crimson tempest, than evenom with 5+ CPs or max, when deathmark procd
midnight atlas
thats practice. in reality you run out of energy and realize venomous wounds is a joke in ST
normal mist
rupture and CT must also be casted at 5+ cPs
unreal sparrow
And ilvl is kinda similar to the Tanks. 709 right now but pure ST boss Fights on m+ i end about 2.1-2.3 m Overall dmg
Yeah, Energy runs Low than
unreal sparrow
Try to hold rapture and garrote on the target than over evenom DOT and CT dot
warm vortex
it's fucking stupid
normal mist
Try to hold rapture and garrote on the target than over evenom DOT and CT dot
CT has higher prio than envenom
unreal sparrow
Kk
cosmic hearth
Hey peeps, I am trying hard to improve on my rotation, thought I try follow and line up CDs etc, I stil prefrom like an dumbass, can someone check this and let me know where I failed miserably? https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/rC9bmhdNnMzpvFax?fight=1&type=damage-done&graphperf=1&source=19
warm vortex
Also someone said "im speccing off my interrupt and taking oyu instead"
Best quote ever XD
fallow canopy
any cook for 15ish streets?
zealous moth
Hey peeps, I am trying hard to improve on my rotation, thought I try follow and ...
flip more tails
your rotation seems fine ish, at least at a first glance with wowanalyzer
just maybe take care of not overcapping combo points
cosmic hearth
yeah I am using WAnalyzer as reference
normal mist
overcapping CPs happens naturally
cosmic hearth
I thought I flipped enough coins, not sure how I would flip even more than this, spamming more finishers I guess
zealous moth
nah it's just a meme
main bridge
just be more lucky
zealous moth
it's just have better rng lol
cosmic hearth
ama go at it again 😄
zealous moth
comparing it to my kill
you are 3 ilvl above me
and you are 180k dps lower just on envenom
that can be just crit rng but
maybe you can fit more casts
warm vortex
Rasins, chocolate, blueberries
main bridge
i like the blueberry muffins
normal mist
just press your buttons harder
warm vortex
Fiar
main bridge
what about you all?
warm vortex
I'd love chocolate but i don't eat any outside of like
2 parts in the year
I usually dislike blueberries, but with muffins they sorta slap
normal mist
@cosmic hearth also change your weapon enchants
stable bridge
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bitter solar
Lemon poppy seed muffin, but partial to blueberry ngl
warm vortex
I remember leaving mid key (like 2 hours into a depleted one) to help my mum stir the mix, ended up with an achey arm somehow
God im so fucking happy i timed the key tbh
i would have like
Died
irl
Esp after that stupid DC deplete
somber sparrow
so many times i end up at 4 combo points, if i'm in a kingsbane window, do i envenom or do i get to 5+ no matter what
fatebound**
unborn rain
blueberry muffins are the shit
bitter solar
pp slap at 4cp
unborn rain
same with pancakes
normal mist
and you are 180k dps lower just on envenom
also noticed he has less 320k dps than my envenom
warm vortex
I'm still thinking of this
they need to tone down
something
in halls
cast amount, damage, timer
Just like oml
unborn rain
is it rly easier than sl
zealous moth
also noticed he has less 320k dps than my envenom
and i have like 12k crit vs their 20k so
unborn rain
or does this guildie not know what hes talking about
zealous moth
it's not a crit dif
unborn rain
real.
cosmic hearth
<@230719299608772610> also change your weapon enchants
I thought I had correct ones :S
normal mist
I thought I had correct ones :S
dont you have agi proc ones?
warm vortex
I'm now 3.1K + tho so it was worth
zealous moth
I thought I had correct ones :S
radiant is for m+ iirc
zealous moth
people running council's guile for raid
normal mist
same
for m+ my sim wants mastery proc on weapons
a few weeks ago it wanted versa procs
somber sparrow
you might be glad to know that in my latest fractillus kill i had much less wasted combo points 😄 https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/YGtM9wx3k8LTAgCJ?fight=6&type=resources&source=6&spell=104
cosmic hearth
I'll swap to council guile then
normal mist
sim yourself first
check which of the weapons enchants is better for your profile
Guile are good overall
but if you're already heavy into crit
might not be worth
cosmic hearth
honestly, I've completely disregarded wep enchants, good shout
zealous moth
what other enchant can go instead of guile?
cosmic hearth
simming rn
normal mist
what other enchant can go instead of guile?
mastery, versa, crit
never had it ask me for haste
warm vortex
never had it ask me for haste
I've had it ask me for haste before
....
On my Bm
:D
normal mist
negative
main bridge
Yes
main bridge
Ain’t nobody got time to wait around for sims
zealous moth
bc i have no idea of what to sim first
bitter solar
I would probably suggest Gear slots>Trinkets> Weapon enchants>rings>gems. If you are doing them all separate.
but take the results of the previous sim over to the next.
cosmic hearth
I appreciate quick responce, I'lll see what fits best on weps and try to have more casts of envenom!
normal mist
also
zealous moth
I would probably suggest Gear slots>Trinkets> Weapon enchants>rings>gems. If you...
makes sense
zealous moth
i always assumed gear in general > trinks > enchants > gems
waxen oyster
gem sims are typically within error
once you get your blasphemite 4 bonus you don't have that many slots to fiddle with anyway
fickle forum
for pure ST, what is better at this moment? Deathstalker or fatebound?
main bridge
Fatebound
bitter solar
Royal about to hit you with move speed Blasphemite propaganda
normal mist
quick crow
normal mist
!macro
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With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.
#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane
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runic hinge
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spice surge
They do because assa has one million small procs that all need to be calculated
young reef
yee
onyx pond
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radiant otter
I thought I flipped enough coins, not sure how I would flip even more than this,...
finish at 5+ CP so you get a coinflip. it looks like you're building higher and it means you're overcapping a lot and not casting as many finishers https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/rC9bmhdNnMzpvFax?fight=1&type=resources&source=19&spell=104
real onyx
i think ive misunderstood sanguine this whole time
so its not if you use garrote or rupture when you're above 50% energy
it can trigger even if you put it on at 30% but asf the dot ticks you go ovr 50%?
is that right#
royal lantern
They do because assa has one million small procs that all need to be calculated
huh
i somehow never thought about that tbh
real onyx
ty whisper
balmy condor
huh
i somehow never thought about that tbh
you thought it was normal for dslice to take hours?
np
royal lantern
you thought it was normal for dslice to take hours?
....kinda? 
night vessel
is there a neck i can safely craft for both sub and assa? statwise
spice surge
Not haste
royal lantern
tbf, im always doing big sims, and then let it run in the background while doing something else, so i never really thought about it much
hardy dawn
why is everyone using the neck from Big Momma?
hardy dawn
i'm still using the Crit Haste one from Streets
balmy condor
or haste/mast?
hardy dawn
yeah its Mastery Vers
royal lantern
just do what sim says
sim told me to give it my social security number, weird tbh
waxen oyster
did you give it the funny digits on the back of your card too
open jolt
latent kernel
hidden crystal
just do what sim says
What if sim tells me to have 40% mastery for 40% crit instead of 55% mastery for 34% crit?
hidden crystal
Everything I do it keeps telling me to use crit everything. It’s tripping me out.
I’m down to like 40% mastery because it wants me to do nothing but crit.
main bridge
Are you simming top gear? Because that doesn’t recommend stats
hidden crystal
And yes it’s top gear
main bridge
It just tells you to equip gear and that’s all you should think about
hidden crystal
Jesus Christ I’m an idiot
But yeah that’s fine either way what about the fact the gear it tells me to equip has me way fucke(feels like?) on stats.
hidden crystal
Yeah it’s throwing me off I guess because it doesn’t match the stats that archon says my shit should look like. I guess it’s whatever though yeah?
main bridge
There’s your problem
next dust
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main bridge
Ignore archon. It’s not useful information. You’re comparing your stats to people that don’t have the same gear as you. Of course it will be different
main bridge
It’s really that simple
hidden crystal
that’s fair
balmy condor
Yeah it’s throwing me off I guess because it doesn’t match the stats that archon...
archon 
the ye olde "it's the most popular therefore it is also the best"
hidden crystal
idk bro im just not good but im trying to get better 🤣
balmy condor
I love archon so much
thank you business daddy for embedding it into my guide
thank you thank you thank you
pliant remnant
I am literally going naked on my rogue unless all my gear matches Casual's
balmy condor
idk bro im just not good but im trying to get better 🤣
best advice I have is just sim your gear, generally ilvl beats everything, get more uptime whenever possible, follow the basics
you can mess up a bunch of sequencing and timings
but as long as you have like 90% of the stuff correct
and not massively fucking up basics
you're good to go
hidden crystal
ok fine ill stop being shy
balmy condor
stay away from any website that claims to have the best most super duper popular must have gear
hidden crystal
so like
do you want me to post my logs in general or a specific log i thought went well? im not really sure because all my shit looks the same
and im still parsing like mid blue for grey for ilvl so clearly im bad
hidden crystal
pliant remnant
inb4 bro is like 716 and competing with 2 other rogues
hidden crystal
im not sure which one anyone wants to look at. I know (and I can tell when) im fucking up the basics
so losing a rupture or clipping like yeah i know when i do it by my reflexes re just big dumb and im working on it.
even when i feel like i do pretty well though, still ends up being blue or sometimes i get lucky and is purple
sullen hearth
and im still parsing like mid blue for grey for ilvl so clearly im bad
I screwed up 6 gcds in the one button rotation yesterday. Its ok man
hidden crystal
sometimes i consider
balmy condor
aight so I open the first fight and immediately see this instead of cooldowns
hidden crystal
wait wait
balmy condor
it was fine up until here, this is good
but then just hits cds
this sequence here is like almost okay, but not ideal
on fatebound you want to shiv->deathmark->kingsbane, so the reverse order of what you did
shiv buffs coins
hidden crystal
yeah what you guys were talking about yesterday made me realize
im doing it backwards
balmy condor
yeh, W
but no big thing there
the big thing that actually is there though
where shiv 2
it's out here in narnia
hidden crystal
yeah from what i recall i try to save that for like the last 7 seconds of kb?
balmy condor
last 8 on the naked kingsbanes, for deathmarks you have to layer the deathmark front to back
and then from here it kinda falls apart
I think it's because on this one, you got the 4 piece bug
but it's the best log you got so, unlucky
but like this cannot happen
cold blood matches the edge case flips you get from kingsbane/deathmark
pliant remnant
balmy condor
that's kinda the entire thing
pliant remnant
balmy condor
so having them desynced like this is just no bueno
if you get the double cooldown reduction, you have to play around your cold blood timer instead of hitting kb on cooldown
hidden crystal
so always always save cb for when oth dm and kb are up?
balmy condor
which sucks
but such is life
well cold blood, kingsbane are both 0:45 in theory
the only way it's not is if you get a bug on your 4piece
which is common
hidden crystal
whats this?
balmy condor
if that happens you just have to bite the bullet and hold the kingsbane until 0:45 again
pliant remnant
whats this?
Your Plexus Sentinel
balmy condor
but it just gets worse from here I'm afraid
pliant remnant
@warm vortex 
hidden crystal
yeah
balmy condor
cause immediately after
you deathmark with no kingsbane, essentially wasting that cooldown window
warm vortex
<@387667108630233109> <:Madge:798134324456194089>
Huh?
balmy condor
the shivs are scuffed
hidden crystal
like i said, i feel like i do pretty well to a point and then i just fall apart
balmy condor
like you bugged (unlucky), didn't recover it
pliant remnant
Wasn't it you that just posted and deleted
hidden crystal
I dont know if its because things just get desynced and i hit them on cooldown or what
balmy condor
and then everything just desynced and you never got back on the timer
balmy condor
and that's why your fractillus damage looks so smooth
when there should be very defined peaks
warm vortex
Wasn't it you that just posted and deleted
?
hidden crystal
i see
warm vortex
balmy condor
the bug makes it really cringe though, I feel the pain
but if your cds desync, you gotta just play on your cold blood timer instead
hidden crystal
so i should never ever DM
without kb up because they line up?
am i understanding that right?
balmy condor
yeah
hidden crystal
got it
hidden crystal
but yes i have noticed that much like when shits lined up i shoot to the top then gradually fall back down the meters until the next CD window
balmy condor
kingsbane/cold blood every 0:45
hidden crystal
but somtimes i do not climb back up and im like wtf
balmy condor
and then 2 shivs every deathmark, 1 shiv every naked kingsbane
hidden crystal
i think that alone will help a lot
soft robin
Does Incorporeal Essence-Gorger sim as if you're getting the highest stat or something? a heroic track is coming out as almost same as araz for me on aoe and single target, .3% and .4% respectively. (M+ bleed build)
pliant remnant
Yeah, there's at least one Kingsbane on Sentinel where you shived 10 seconds before KB and then didn't have any to send in the actual KB window
balmy condor
but yes i have noticed that much like when shits lined up i shoot to the top the...
we are inherently an execute-heavy burst spec sadly
hidden crystal
Yeah, there's at least one Kingsbane on Sentinel where you shived 10 seconds bef...
yeah i remember cringing at that myself. i just sent KB and was like oh. yeah. cool.
one of those in the moment oof gif things yeah
balmy condor
this is my araz kill from yesterday (ez flex)
but if you look at the first like nearly 4 minutes
chrome mirage
Realizing now that I have been playing fatebound wrong. I am shiv'ing the last 8 sec of KB instead of just using at the end of the first shiv
hidden crystal
yeah
balmy condor
from that point on though
so making sure you get your cooldown windows in order, especially deathmark
and making sure you fit stuff into the last 35% especially is really important
hidden crystal
okay. thats a great starting point. we go tonight so i'll try those things
let me just make sure i understand the basics of what youre telling me to work on though
balmy condor
like your opener was great, but because of the bug everything desynced, and the important stuff is at the end, rather than the start
which is tough
hidden crystal
- use dm only if KB is up
- get my shivs in order
- if i have a naked KB then thats ok but remember to have a shiv up
i think?
balmy condor
yes, but I wouldn't really word it like that
soft robin
what is the bug? (sorry, following along to learn)
balmy condor
think of it less as a "use if X is up"
and more of a "these should line up every X minutes"
hidden crystal
gotcha
balmy condor
what is the bug? (sorry, following along to learn)
fatebound 4 piece double procs sometimes
you can basically time your entire rotation on fatebound around cold blood
warm vortex
this is my araz kill from yesterday (ez flex)
balmy condor
cold blood is every 45 seconds
balmy condor
every cold blood is a kingsbane
warm vortex
christmas joke
pliant remnant
My king is washed up
soft robin
ah ok, wasn't aware of that
pliant remnant
pepehands
hidden crystal
oh. and also i need to reverse my order
balmy condor
every other cold blood is also a deathmark
cause 45 and 45 is 1:30
every 3min is a vanish, so every 4th cold blood
hidden crystal
yup
balmy condor
every cold blood/kingsbane also has a shiv
deathmark has 2
so everything kinda hinges around that timer
hidden crystal
go figure being aware of your cooldowns is an important part to doing good damage 
thanks whispyr
plain wind
Realizing now that I have been playing fatebound wrong. I am shiv'ing the last 8...
wait what? i thought that's correct
hidden crystal
it does help to have someone look at my baby and say 'yeah its ugly'
unborn rain
wait what? i thought that's correct
he said in dm
icy shoal
Hey guys just for know assez fate is always big or is patch ?
pliant remnant
wait what? i thought that's correct
No, you Shiv to cover all of Deathmark
balmy condor
thanks whispyr
np
pliant remnant
and since Kingsbane is longer than that with new tier, you Shiv as the last one expires
unborn rain
well i assumed it was implied
chrome mirage
Yeah I just have cabbage for brains
plain wind
but then it doesnt cover the end of the kingsbane
hidden crystal
now that thats done, why is ilvl parse sus?
plain wind
i thought you let first shiv end then line up so last shiv rides out the end of the kingsbane
unborn rain
but then it doesnt cover the end of the kingsbane
thats ok during dm
soft robin
@balmy condor do you have a video going over the maintenance part of an aoe pull in M+? I kinda have the opener down and then I kinda feel like I get progressively worse as the pull goes on
hidden crystal
<@167090536602140682> do you have a video going over the maintenance part of an ...
i have this problem too.
balmy condor
now that thats done, why is ilvl parse sus?
it's usually a much smaller sample size, and much more volatile
hidden crystal
it's usually a much smaller sample size, and much more volatile
kinda figured. the higher you get the better people youre parsing against so youre more likely to not be as good?
pliant remnant
IIRC Kingsbane gets capped in that time anyway during DM
hidden crystal
esp early
balmy condor
kinda figured. the higher you get the better people youre parsing against so you...
I mean just on mythic araz for example the overall parse is 130 assa rogues, but in my ilvl bracked it's 29
and that's mythic araz, which is already like
"good" players
but it just slices it even further
hidden crystal
thats fair
balmy condor
until eventually it's like what are we even comparing
you can also cheese what "ilvl" means
cuase like I have a 723 prism
but I haven't crafted a second 720 item
are we going to argue that a 720 wrist and a 723 prism are equal dps gains, even though they're similar item levels?
there's a bunch of shit like that where it just skews super hard
also side note but you should fix this on your daggers
radiant power kinda sucks
and whetstones kinda suck too
the consumables at least aren't all that impactful
royal lantern
im gonna use my remaining 30whetstones, and you aint gonna stop me
balmy condor
but weapon enchants matter a fair bit
royal lantern
(which oil are we using now btw)
hidden crystal
depths instead?
balmy condor
<@167090536602140682> do you have a video going over the maintenance part of an ...
that happens when you're a burst spec, yes
balmy condor
depths instead?
no, that's even worse
royal lantern
depths instead?
secondary stat enchants
most likely crit or mastery
or a combination of both
balmy condor
(which oil are we using now btw)
are there multiple?
royal lantern
are there multiple?
idk, you tell me
balmy condor
idk I thought algari mana oil was the only one
restive inlet
Are there big gains to be had by tracking the fatebound coins? Just recently started playing again after a long break, and never touched fatebound before. Just killed dimensius LFR, and it seems like the coins are doing dps without my knowledge:)
balmy condor
Are there big gains to be had by tracking the fatebound coins? Just recently st...
you don't need to track it at all, but if you don't track the coins you literally don't realize your hero talent exists
so
that kinda sucks
hidden crystal
gotcha. so something like guile + mana oil would better benefit me
warm vortex
1111
restive inlet
watched a bunch of your behemoth 3 hour vid while setting up my UI again btw Whispyr, ty for being you! Might've miised some important stuff due to not locking in, but still
hidden crystal
is the same true for keys? (mh/oh enchant and oil vs whetstone) ?
nimble tartan
my gf broke up with me because I had the 3 hr Whispyr video on the TV and was taking handwritten notes and she said “u play this game everyday and still dont know shit”
main bridge
owned
restive inlet
life is hard 💔
balmy condor
is the same true for keys? (mh/oh enchant and oil vs whetstone) ?
yes
pliant remnant
my gf broke up with me because I had the 3 hr Whispyr video on the TV and was ta...
based gf
warm vortex
my gf broke up with me because I had the 3 hr Whispyr video on the TV and was ta...
You need to learn from the best my guy
hidden crystal
so like - do as the robot says ?
warm vortex
Aye
rotund oak
yeah
balmy condor
I'm ngl when I see the analytics pop up and I see like 4% device as "TV" I'm like what the fuck
warm vortex
I'm ngl when I see the analytics pop up and I see like 4% device as "TV" I'm lik...
Have you ever seen like
3ds
or 2ds
or wii u
Or wii
balmy condor
why is it not replacing the offhand
warm vortex
or nokia
hidden crystal
warm vortex
I'm ngl when I see the analytics pop up and I see like 4% device as "TV" I'm lik...
Show
hidden crystal
thats no buff yeah
hidden crystal
oh
rotund oak
lol..
royal lantern
oh, no raid buffs
oh hey, thats reality for me
warm vortex
hidden crystal
Lol my bad. Im used to unchecking everything because i wait like an hour for ass sims to go through
royal lantern
first 2 weeks of the tier no dh buff cus or DH was on vacation
and now no more warrior buff
celest mesa
!macro
prisma monolithBOT
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.
#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane
Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket
hidden crystal
and by then ive forgot what i even cared about
rotund oak
link the sim
how did u understand it was wrong,what made u believe that 
warm vortex
first 2 weeks of the tier no dh buff cus or DH was on vacation
and now no more ...
Skill issue tbf
balmy condor
how did u understand it was wrong,what made u believe that <:monkaScheme:5865787...
it only replaced one enchant
balmy condor
and by then ive forgot what i even cared about
hidden crystal
whispyr knows robot better then robot knows whispyr knows robot
celest mesa
yo how do i make a mouse over target macro for garrot/rupture hit my target if im not mouse overed anything currently using:
#showtooltip garrote
/cast [target=mouseover] Garrote
royal lantern
Skill issue tbf
our warrior played IRL Floor PoV
aka "suddenly was in a Coma for 3 weeks"
he REALLY roleplays the average Warrior tbh
hidden crystal
so to speak
balmy condor
yo how do i make a mouse over target macro for garrot/rupture hit my target if i...
#showtooltip garrote
/cast [target=mouseover][] Garrote
warm vortex
our warrior played IRL Floor PoV
aka "suddenly was in a Coma for 3 weeks"
he R...
I mean, did he use defs?
Or were healers slacking
celest mesa
where can i disable the green combo points for sub rogue (cause i dont wanna finish on 5 but it highlights from 5 onwards)
tawny geyser
I need you in DM tho if poss ^^
celest mesa
but i like it for assa
hidden crystal
im kinda into that... go on...
balmy condor
where can i disable the green combo points for sub rogue (cause i dont wanna fin...
for the wa?
celest mesa
ye
balmy condor
I thought I fixed that for sub
celest mesa
its in conditions or trigger
balmy condor
erm
celest mesa
i may have an old version
pretty sure i got it from your recent assa in depth guide tho
balmy condor
it's possible, I have a new thing I need to push anyway that changes the clear the witnesses logic
let me double check
balmy condor
pretty sure i got it from your recent assa in depth guide tho
yah I mean I push updates almost weekly at this point I'm ngl
I forgot what the last change was
celest mesa
but it wont have broken something like colour change of CP for sub
so
even if its a couple weeks old
hidden crystal
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/hVcKjREo61e9iuRUNstsKL
ty
celest mesa
v3.2.7 am using
celest mesa
is that old?
balmy condor
no I think I just haven't pushed
yeh it's 6 on outlaw as well
need to just upload a new version
balmy condor
on what
balmy condor
which araz kill
livid dagger
Who are you talking to ?
marsh fjord
Who are you talking to ?
to you
main bridge
oak tangle
historical % dawg
balmy condor
historical % dawg
humble verge
@balmy condor wtf is that araz kill
marsh fjord
Yea I saw that sadge
dont ever talk to me like that you peasant
humble verge
wdym
balmy condor
back to fixing wa
balmy condor
boss damage uber
humble verge
atleast in the log
balmy condor
not in my guild you mongoloid
marsh fjord
NOT IN THE GUILD
balmy condor
you think I give a shit about that
marsh fjord
MAN
balmy condor
good thing you played sub
runic hinge
Lfr is the hardest difficulty to parse on. Change my mind
balmy condor
couldn't have killed that boss on anything else, right uber
marsh fjord
humble verge
unironically
marsh fjord
WHAT THE HELLY
marsh fjord
Uber genuine qeustion
balmy condor
also fuck casters what the hell is this shit
oak tangle
that LFR 100 was without any externals, so i still claim it
marsh fjord
Why do you think you log good in HC but shit in mythic?
marsh fjord
Because
humble verge
people who do mythic ACTUALLY do damage
marsh fjord
i have the same issue basically
humble verge
but when youre told to offspec
and youre kinda like
still trying to understand dance scheduling
it gets ass
marsh fjord
Nah if my RL tells me to off-spec he can litteraly kiss my ass
marsh fjord
are you in a top 100-200 guild?
humble verge
well
we are 480 rn
we were 385 when we killed gally last tier
we are so bad rn
its insane
oak tangle
if they swapped specs more they'd be 200 
humble verge
the thing is
we've had to get so many drakes
for forge
we have people who are like hunters
who have to go drake cause we need the cc
Xd
well ig not on this kill but still
glass spade
After our initial ruptures and garrottes are starting to fall off in AOE, do we generally wish to vanish and re-apply everything again OR generally just reapply to main target and continue to pump damage via CT & caustic splatter?
I think this is the thing I’m doing incorrectly the most often is knowing wether or not I want to re-up all my bleeds or just pump single target until the pack dies (with CT) active
marsh fjord
After our initial ruptures and garrottes are starting to fall off in AOE, do we ...
The thing is we cant really tell you
humble verge
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/GMz8tLgTF7RwmnYf?fight=31&type=damage-done here i was 99 as FB
f.exp
52% wipe tho
marsh fjord
After our initial ruptures and garrottes are starting to fall off in AOE, do we ...
because it has to do with how long a pack is living, it's very situational
humble verge
i went sub p10 until we killed him
glass spade
I see
I’d assume if they’re close to death reapplying all the bleeds is stupid and a waste of damage
But if they’re relatively healthy reapply?
glass spade
Got it
marsh fjord
if i see them living around 40/50%
glass spade
So kind of use logic in each situation
glass spade
Kk perfect
oak tangle
also depends on the pack size
marsh fjord
yeah if you dont have IC or vanish
glass spade
If there’s a massive pack of like 12 things do we try to rupture and garrote everything? Or just make sure that there is at least 5
pliant remnant
glass spade
🦶
fallow canopy
also fuck casters what the hell is this shit
My 100p on soul hunters was like 1.1m behind the 80 on the lock
royal lantern
My 100p on soul hunters was like 1.1m behind the 80 on the lock
press button harder bozo
did you try attacking the flying enemys???
fallow canopy
Never pressed poisoned knife smh
royal lantern
ngl
its legit insane that they let ranged hit the bosses the entire intermission
instead of making them dmg immune
it feels like such a oversight they just ignore now lol
(probably is)
fallow canopy
wasn't even an 80 
sinful ice
Someone had elvui for assasination rogue?
merry perch
Folks, I see 50/50 on logs that people are opening with ambush or garrote but the guide states garrote is your first global. What is the truth 🤔 my gut feeling tells me it doesn't even matter
This is for FB ST
balmy condor
doesn't matter at all
I open with ambush just from raw muscle memory
sometimes it crits and I get 5cp and I just insta rupture too
because 5 is finish
legit who cares
merry perch
Yeah that's what I figured
balmy condor
your first 7ish gcds are just setting up
merry perch
I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something
balmy condor
the order that happens in is whatever
merry perch
Cause I'm doing log reviews for some peeps and I'm seeing it like 50/50 and I'm like 
balmy condor
ye
merry perch
Ty King
balmy condor
np
humble verge
qing 17s 😴
tawny geyser
qing 17s 😴
Uh, I'd like that WA/Addon to see how many times I was declined 😂
royal lantern
<:garf_sit:1334889429449314456>
go outside
main bridge
i don't know why you'd want this
royal lantern
stop playing that mental illness
humble verge
i wanna see how much time i spend wasting my time
hoary marlin
qing 17s 😴
interesting what is frost dk avarage invite count
humble verge
interesting what is frost dk avarage invite count
99/100
vestal granite
What are the good places for recruitment and pugs? gettting real tired of clicking M+ keys for hours straight when I could do them half asleep
humble verge
find some friends
vestal granite
then why would I play WoW
hoary marlin
What are the good places for recruitment and pugs? gettting real tired of clicki...
play your own keys
humble verge
or that
royal lantern
mf plays a game where the entire endgame is about socialising, and doesnt wanna do that
vestal granite
mf plays a game where the entire endgame is about socialising, and doesnt wanna ...
do you have difficulty with reading comprehension? I ve asked 3 seconds ago where is the socialising
hoary marlin
i put up my keys
this is the only rogue playstyle
humble verge
i never do my keys anymore tho
people are so incompetent
no matter the fucking rio i invite
thats why i just join others keys
to be incompetent myself in their keys
hoary marlin
qing 17s 😴
you call that join? 😄
royal lantern
do you have difficulty with reading comprehension? I ve asked 3 seconds ago wher...
do a run
see a good guy
add them and play togheter
repeat until you have a full group
or find a guild that has simelar goals
humble verge
honestly
cyan epoch
-add solo que
-bricker headwallers get weeded out
humble verge
finding a guild that actually does keys
kinda hard
besides doing weeklies
my guildies only log on for raid
or HM
royal lantern
eh, most mythic raidteams tends to have 1 group that pushes keys in my experience
humble verge
nah
but we have lone keyers
like me
basically all 4 dps
trying to push
everyone else is 3k or under
royal lantern
only way to play the game without losing the remaining 3 braincells
humble verge
you can get 3k by just +2ing 12s
if you do 10 keys as weekly
kinda poopie
i hate doing xala affixe
xalaffixe
kekw
:3
cyan epoch
idk I’m just doing vault keys this season bc i’d rather start up a moba than sit in que for 2 hours or push up my key
main bridge
Well that’s not the only way to play
cyan epoch
last season was the first time i tried pushing score
humble verge
well
maiden sierra
im still flabergasted that uber is actually a gamer and not just a shitposter
humble verge
the only way to play
main bridge
You should focus on joining a guild that matches your skill level and interests and make friends. Every part of the game is more fun that way
cyan epoch
and i was surprised by how much dead time there was
hoary marlin
nah
humble verge
but then again
hoary marlin
play rogue
humble verge
healing is a nightmare
hoary marlin
chose pain