assassination

[waxen oyster]

didnt give as much dps as people pretend it did

[zenith elm]

I need to go do sleepy time

Goodnight guys

[agile osprey]

iirc the buff would expire early in your cds if you didnt kite it

[waxen oyster]

wrathstone is a genuinely
good trinket

well besides the champ track

[dim nymph]

idol is clearly the only trinket you need in s3 lets be real

[clever sparrow]

i guess i will only replace it with a araz or netherprism

[waxen oyster]

branch you got a bit more value if you edged orb three yeah

forget the exact tradeoff

[agile osprey]

I play melee I don't think

[surreal valve]

just wanted to say thank you guys tried bleed m+ bleed seems fun and dealing more dmg thank u guys

[zenith elm]

Where does wrathstone drop?

[normal mist]

You're welcome

[normal mist]

TW ulduar

[zenith elm]

Ooooh

[dim nymph]

you are welcome never forget my child bleed is love bleed is life

[buoyant herald]

In the past

[clever sparrow]

ulduar

[zenith elm]

So i cant get it

Damn

Well, goodnight

[buoyant herald]

Not until next wrath tw

[clever sparrow]

sitting on my champion

[buoyant herald]

And even then you probs won’t get it either 😂

[dim nymph]

signet is better anyway lul

[main bridge]

all the Ulduar trinkets got nerfed also so it might not even be worth if you could get it

[clever sparrow]

5% xd

[halcyon saddle]

hmm this nerf

[clever sparrow]

i didnt feel it tbh

[scenic nacelle]

maybe bug fixes next week boys

[desert crest]

There is also the pvp trink tho

Not quite as strong but also 1 min cd

[fringe sierra]

I see more sub in raid rn but fatebound still siming higher is it just a perference thing?

[clever sparrow]

if yourent doing mythic
yes

[fringe sierra]

I am doing mythic

[scenic nacelle]

mixture of sub exposure in RWF, Fatebound bugged, player preferences

[main bridge]

sub is way more complicated and harder to play also

[fringe sierra]

O fuck FB is bugged again?

[clever sparrow]

tierset

[scenic nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-among-us-astronaut-space-betrayal-gif-23836476

[fringe sierra]

omg

bruh

[main bridge]

yeah a lot of the recently discussed bugs are not new

[fringe sierra]

yeah i know about some of sin stuff

but didnt know FB was on that

damn

prob will go sub today then

[main bridge]

i mean, i'm not sure it's even worth changing anything over

the spec is still very good

do whatever you like, of course

i will continue playing FB regardless

[flint swallow]

!macro

[prisma monolith]

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[fringe sierra]

True honestly I feel like im doing pretty solid on it

[humble verge]

well

it took me 2h of forge myth to understand it

[main bridge]

haha that sounds fun

[pulsar coral]

i lost my deathmark on heroic Araz and it never came back?

vanish ambush didn't bring it back either

[humble verge]

well, i once topped dps on a wipe

[main bridge]

ya it seems to have some weird behavior there. that's one reason sub is becoming more popular on that boss

there used to be something about this in the pins

i thought vanish was the way to bring it back but maybe there is more to it

[humble verge]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/tp6hC3fy81LKnYax?fight=34&type=damage-done was dis one :D

[modest marlin]

i started playing like 5 days ago is this good for assa rouge i think no but i thought id ask

[normal mist]

it is

[balmy condor]

[modest marlin]

very much a noob questionsorry

[normal mist]

for a future ranged spec

[balmy condor]

we don't use bows

[haughty flicker]

bis for ranged slot

[balmy condor]

we use double daggers

[modest marlin]

kk

thats what i have rn

but i just got this so thought id ask

TY

[balmy condor]

yeah if you equip anything other than a dagger

you legit can't use half your spells

[normal mist]

^

[modest marlin]

xdd

okay!

ty

[balmy condor]

np

[haughty flicker]

what if you equip a cantrip bow and then use fok to generate instead of mut

[normal mist]

LF a ranged spec for rogue

[west smelt]

If only there was a rogue spec that used guns

[haughty flicker]

if only

[west smelt]

Could even have a pirate theme

[normal mist]

ranged tho

[haughty flicker]

honestly when sniper rogue spec

[normal mist]

outlaw isnt even a rogue spec

[tawdry halo]

best i can do a hybrid void demon hunter spec

[haughty flicker]

like that si:7 girl who gets murdered

i want to be marksman but better

[west smelt]

Outlaw used to be a ranged spec

When it could hit from 8y

[restive falcon]

just finished watching mighty whispyr's video, just fatebound angle now until deathstalker fixed on some bosses or just deal with bugs still

[weary spear]

They’re both cringe rn

[buoyant herald]

FB assass on plexus, moth and crystal man

Probably play sub and outlaw on others instead of DS

[amber brook]

we can step through the plexus wall right?

[buoyant herald]

I like to change it up though

[humble verge]

yes

[humble verge]

wait is ds bugged too now

[spare spoke]

Someone tell me how to feel about trinket tuning please

[mint urchin]

Swapping to outlaw is awful just because of the gear demand

[tawdry halo]

so bugged

its like a plague

[clever sparrow]

outlaw require sht tons of haste tbh

impossible

[mint urchin]

Outlaw is also all vers

[buoyant herald]

Nah outlaw is fine, haste requirement easily met with some jewellery and flask and cape gem

[mint urchin]

Not to mention wep and trinkets, well guess antenna still works

[buoyant herald]

Gear doesn’t matter that much

[mint urchin]

It does when comparing to a full itemized DS build

[buoyant herald]

Outside of obvious things like weapon ilvl

My outlaw gear is pretty much just as optimized outside of crafted dagger

[mint urchin]

Itemized DS > unoptimized outlaw still in most cases

[buoyant herald]

That is to say

My trinkets are trash across all specs

I’m really only talking for dh boss there though

Maybe soulbinder

Problem with trying to play DS on the add bosses for ME is that my raid blows adds up at insane speeds

So I don’t get any aoe or funnel

I understand and appreciate DS has the higher cap there if you’re allowed to reach it

[mint urchin]

I really wish outlaw and assa had better stat crossover

So I didn't feel like I was trolling swapping

[buoyant herald]

I really wish outlaw didn’t have one stat with a hard cap and one stat that permanently sucks

Usually why I play assass early, just equip ilvl

[distant lodge]

I just play fatebound and smash the boss directly with a bit of caustic spatter, I’ve found it works well for my guilds comp.

[buoyant herald]

That’s what I’ve been doing so far

[waxen oyster]

Sub and sin swap pretty easily

just switch jewelry

[buoyant herald]

And not worrying about ranks

But I need to get the greens and blues to purples

[stark halo]

So are we getting fixed or am I swapping to full sub

[mint urchin]

We are rerolling Feral

[normal mist]

depends if you prefer sub bugs to assa bugs

[rotund marsh]

Is that antenna nerf bad?

[royal hazel]

Looking for wa recommendations. I want to see a pandemic border around the target nameplates when bleeds are dropping or they dont have any bleeds applied.

[rotund marsh]

Also is the nexus king trinket buff going to make it not bad?

[worn nimbus]

Are you guys manually spreading garrote and rupture outside of vanish windows, or just upkeeping them on the main target in a pack of AOE?

[royal hazel]

I am.

[dim nymph]

Antenna trinket itself is only good on paper

I wouldn't look too much into it

[dim nymph]

Outside of IC you should mainly spread ruptures manually if the target will live longer than 10 seconds

If you do end up manually spreading ruptures don't overdue it, spreading only enough to maintain your energy

[glad ferry]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/xq3vCW2D9TpRnAVh?fight=13&type=damage-done&source=7

Might someone help me on how to improve? This is Mythic Plexus. I'm unsure of what to do better.

[royal hazel]

Pandemic glow on nameplates? Or colour name plate if bleed is missing?

[dim nymph]

Quazzi recently updated his plater profile to do just this

[strange moss]

what does the red box relate to?

[surreal valve]

guys on bleed build when should I use envenom? and is it better to use crimson tempest on single targer or envenom?

[haughty flicker]

first kingsbane you probably shived a bit too early

[dim nymph]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0yZV7Lcz8Q&t

[dim nymph]

you should be using both

[haughty flicker]

and then looks like you shived late on the second deathmark

[surreal valve]

okok

[haughty flicker]

also vanished your 2m kingsbane, dont do that

[indigo thicket]

anyone know how to take a WA pack and break a long row of like 8 icons into 2 rows of 4 etc?

[haughty flicker]

save it for your 3m deathmark

[glad ferry]

I shive DM KB as indicated on WoWhead

[haughty flicker]

no i mean your lone kingsbane

you didnt shiv the back half

you kinda shived like 1/3 of the way through

not big but can do better

[dim nymph]

Also envenom is your main spender if all your bleeds are up then you should be slamming all cp on envenom spam

[haughty flicker]

the vanish is more important

[grim valley]

I don’t get the purpose of vanishing in fate bound build ?

[haughty flicker]

definitely save that for your 3m deathmark

[glad ferry]

That macro is treacherous

[surreal valve]

ight gotchu ty

[spice surge]

Double jeopardy, a fatebound talent

[dusty grotto]

read talents

[glad ferry]

Shouldn't I macro it to DM instead then?

It says to macro to KB on WoWhead

[haughty flicker]

it says to macro cb to kb on wowhead, i'd be surprised if it said macro vanish to kb

you could probably macro it to deathmark?

i think that would work

[glad ferry]

wait am I fkn high then

[dim nymph]

indeed you are

[glad ferry]

How did I gaslight myself so hard

that's a huge find ty guys lmfao

[dim nymph]

jabaited yourself

[thorny swift]

garf

[haughty flicker]

otherwise seems like you understand the basics, just a bit cleaner

and gamba better coins

[glad ferry]

I'll swipe the card rq

[dim nymph]

The purpose of vanish for the fate bound build is guarantee an a double jeopardy proc (double jeopardy allows you to flip 2 coins that match the same face I.E double heads proc or double tails proc)

[harsh drift]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[glad ferry]

Ik why i Shiv'd early, he was just about to phase away

So what do I do in that situation, my cds come up right as he phases away. I can KB but not minmax my KB in time. Do I just let KB go without shiv or shiv early?

[royal hazel]

Thanks. Ill try to rip this mod as i use jundies

[dim nymph]

idealy you are watching timers and dont send cds right before a major boss ability

thats the only real outplay

[glad ferry]

Yes but then, I just miss a KB window and literally just dont use it until my next DM

[dim nymph]

still a dps gain to hold

acutally that might not be true now that i think about it

[surreal valve]

after stealth when u do rupture rupture is it on the same target and just let it spread or apply in 2 guys

[glad ferry]

I was gonna ask how

[dim nymph]

i guess it kinda just depends how early into the mechanic you send the kb

if you send it early enough to get the shiv off in the last 8 seconds then I don't think its much of a loss

[peak helm]

anyone have recos on a good community to find people to push m+ with?

[surreal valve]

after stealth when u do rupture rupture is it on the same target and just let it spread or apply in 2 guys and the garrotes aswell do I apply on same guy or target change?

[dim nymph]

you really only need to rupture and garrote important mobs and prio target what bleed spreads you get during that period is just a bonus

[glad ferry]

I send it as soon as i get KB up. But then he phases like 4 seconds into KB thats why I thought I might aswell shiv since we have to run all the way to him

[dim nymph]

Well thats why people time thier cooldowns using tools like liquid timelines to make sure things like that can't happen

[surreal valve]

so when they say ruspture twitce its in diff targets? or same one?

[dim nymph]

better to switch targets optimal to use mouse over macro not required to do big dam

[surreal valve]

okok thank you

garrote same?

right?

[glad ferry]

I actually never heard of that

[dim nymph]

garrote is the same

[dim nymph]

its because its a paid addon I wouldnt say people gatekeep it but it definitely doesn't get the clout it deserves - Edit: there is a free version im pretty sure but its buggy

[glad ferry]

eh

[balmy condor]

method raid tools does the same thing for free

just btw

[dim nymph]

@balmy condor that is true but I personally think its harder to use before my guild switched to liquid timelines I'm pretty sure my experience with getting the timers to lineup right was attrocious and thats why we made the switch

[lofty nymph]

With 4P do i shiv the last 8 seconds of kingsbane?

[red zealot]

Assuming there has not been any word from blizzard about the bugs atm?

[dim nymph]

if you are playing fb and you are talking about raid it is optimal to send shiv back to back without overlapping during deathmark and when its solo kb you send the last 8 seconds

[dim nymph]

funny guy hahaha their biggest announcement of the day was 3% nerf to antenna

[fresh kelp]

i write all my cooldowns into an mrt note like a real man

[dim nymph]

o7 a true hero

[strange moss]

how do you macro kingsbane into coldblood?

[rose inlet]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/CHwt3fpVMKQPnN9j?fight=last&type=damage-done can someone tell me why my burst windows are getting crushed by some other logs char name is Groovee

[dim nymph]

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

[strange moss]

ty

[normal mist]

Ara10, no deaths, 3 mins to deplete, wtf

[dim nymph]

be better honestly

[echo heath]

wtf we have so few cd's why do you need to track them?

[normal mist]

i should 🙁

[dim nymph]

not enough healer dmg

[normal mist]

It was actually a clean run

but for some reason

we almost depleted it

[dim nymph]

probably the tank pulling too slow playing super safe

[normal mist]

1st boss is such a cockblock

takes ages to die

tank actually kept chainpulling

[dim nymph]

its so much faster when the tank knows how to tank the adds on the boss

probably gain 45 seconds when you cleave adds without having to switch targets

[normal mist]

i actually just focused the boss since boomie/destro were destroying the adds

but this isnt pretty

[dim nymph]

bro please im trying to help you make excuses lol

[normal mist]

oh

LOL

Nah man its a 10, no need for me to make excuses 😛

i failed keeping up some ruptures after IC / vanish charges were gone

could have ended with 7M dps easily

[hexed harbor]

idk if its just cause ive been away messing with other classes and stuff but assa feels so scuffed rn

[tawdry halo]

yep

bugs will do that

[normal mist]

in what way

[main bridge]

World of Bugcraft

[echo heath]

I just came back after not playing since season 1 and sin feels exactly the same as it always has

[modern karma]

am i stupid why am i not getting mark back on forgeweaver

[dim nymph]

your mark drops after the pillars die cause they are technically totems and no adds

[normal mist]

pillons?

[modern karma]

yeah

[normal mist]

What krou homie said

[modern karma]

bro..

what do i do t hen

[glad ferry]

I actually had another question. Seems like you would know. Some people here told me that "dry" shiving is bad with fatebound. But I'm wondering if Shiving after your initial opener before KB gets back on CD would be good? Because you basically have another shiv stack for KB's last 8 seconds if you do this.

Wowhead also says to Shiv immidietly after first shiv runs out on DM opener/burst. But other sources say to wait till last 8 secs of KB to do 2nd shiv. Which is correct?

[dim nymph]

keep mark on on boss

[glad ferry]

I can DM if you prefer

[modern karma]

uhhhh ok

[normal mist]

dry shivving only exists on DS

[dim nymph]

nope holding shiv for only cds is optimal if you send an early shiv you wont have 2 shivs back in time for your next deathmark kb

[normal mist]

because of 2 things:

and

[dim nymph]

Also you only shiv last 8 seconds of kindsbane when its a solo kingsbane not when you combine it with deathmark

[glad ferry]

I did not mean actual dry shiving. I know what dry shiving is. I meant just lonely shiv no CDs

[normal mist]

lonely shiv on solo KB at 8 seconds remaining of KB

thats it

[glad ferry]

Ok thank you. I'm watching Shindigg's vods and he waited until last 8 seconds of KB for 2nd shiv in DM burst window so I was very unsure.

[dim nymph]

He did it wrong then lol

[normal mist]

dm + kb shiv you shiv before kb and then at the last 8 seconds

[glad ferry]

Yeah, he was on a prog fight so probably a lot of other stuff going on in his head lmfao but still, safer to ask

[normal mist]

shiv - dm - kb - vanish

[hexed harbor]

i figured out why i think lmao i forgot rogues use poisons for a second

[glad ferry]

Could I also just vanish macro'd to DM?

or are macros just bad in this case

[hexed harbor]

been dual harvesting on my low ilvl druid i forgot how to play WoW

[normal mist]

wait

how was he wrong

[glad ferry]

Yeah I'm getting 2 different things here

[coral ibex]

you shiv end of DM

[normal mist]

let me pull up whispyr video

[coral ibex]

from guide

[normal mist]

because wowhead says otherwise

[river vapor]

Do we have a wowhead article in the works for the sin bugs

[balmy condor]

what does wowhead say otherwise

[balmy condor]

no

[balmy condor]

yeah

opener

[normal mist]

2nd shiv at last 8 seconds or after 1st shiv expires?

[balmy condor]

last 8 seconds of dm

which is when the 1st expires

[normal mist]

oh last 8 of DM

not KB

🤡

[balmy condor]

yeah no

kingsbane is legit insta-stacked during deathmark

you wouldn't want to shiv the last 8 of kingsbane

cause it's out of deathmark

like shiv last 8 of dm and shiv last 8 of kingsbane

are the same kingsbane, cause they're both 50 stacks

so the difference is if you shiv last 8 of kingsbane, you don't have shiv during deathmark

which is just objectively worse

[dim nymph]

D: how dare you question my legitimacy lmfao

[normal mist]

i dared whispyr too

[modern karma]

Is anyone able to do a log review for me

I'm like really really bad but idk why

[normal mist]

AH AH!

[modern karma]

I'm new to dps

[normal mist]

KNEW IT

ITS ON THE VIDEO

[coral ibex]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/rogue/assassination/rotation-cooldowns-pve-dps#single-target-priority

[normal mist]

:C

[coral ibex]

its in the guide

[dim nymph]

😮 no!!

[modern karma]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/area-52/jammiesx

[dim nymph]

that clearly says 10.2.7

or am I that asshole that just got jabaited?

[dim nymph]

owned

[coral ibex]

you always want shiv during DM

[normal mist]

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxPGHYp3qt4QIoSXkVNwcdPDCGkBiyUu0T?si=0fOOSEYA204MbaLi

i knew i was not crazy

[balmy condor]

yah well

old video

[main bridge]

<meta name="description" content="Discover the optimal Assassination Rogue PvE Rotation with our interactive rotation tool. Updated for Dragonflight 10.2.7.">

[balmy condor]

[normal mist]

poor video, not even 20 days old

NEVERTHELESS YOU CAN NOW UNDERSTAND THAT I ACTUALLY WATCHED IT!

[balmy condor]

I mean 4 days ago I told people to play deathstalker

how stupid was 4 day ago whispyr for that lmao

[normal mist]

xD

[dim nymph]

whichever the case may be sims says its optimal to send both shivs during dm so ha

[normal mist]

Nah im good

[dim nymph]

that guy must have been cooked

[normal mist]

i was going off on information of the video

today i learned

thanks for letting me know homies

[tawdry halo]

play FB or hold vanish

[dim nymph]

thats what we are here for sir

[dim nymph]

play sub lololol

[normal mist]

Which i don't feel bad for questioning btw, because that was the information i had for certain

[dim nymph]

For sure definitely encourage people to ask questions

[spice surge]

My apologies for finding the bug sir, it wont happen again!
(it absolutely will)

[balmy condor]

the beauty of rogue is that you can pick basically any ability at random

and find a bug

[dim nymph]

Please stop making my class unplayable ty

[royal hazel]

Death stalkers mark not proccing darkest night after target dies is my favourite

[spice surge]

Especially if youre looking in the deathstalker section, thats like a lucky roll

[runic hinge]

Free space

[spice surge]

I dont think theres any bugs with the defensives, hunt them down or clear the witnesses

But every other node in the tree has atleast one bug associated with them (usually more than one)

[timber pawn]

so are we just cucked until Bliz decides to bug fix end of next week?

[main bridge]

lmao they think blizz is gonna fix it next week

most of these bugs are not new

[timber pawn]

I mean its super broken, they cant leave it for that long

[normal mist]

Blizzard right now: bet?

https://tenor.com/view/alright-bet-michael-che-saturday-night-live-say-no-more-say-less-gif-25237117

[lucid silo]

blizz might fix it next expansion

[timber pawn]

call me an optimist

[placid adder]

apex talents already bugged

[echo heath]

my bros

stealth has been bugged since vanilla

[dense willow]

Do the trinket updates change our bis

[cunning needle]

should have found the bug that increases damage, blizzard would have fixed that shit yesterday

[dim nymph]

would have fixed in df

[runic hinge]

Remember when flensing knives, that was a bug with the defensives

[lofty python]

Hey guys! I was wondering about the Forgemaster Araz fight. Which enemy should I prio Deathstalkers Mark on? I’ve been using the build on Archon and I feel like I am getting confused on that raid fight.

[drifting cloud]

on mythic?

[lofty python]

On heroic/normal

I ain’t that good

[rotund kindle]

Guys why are we running other wep enchants different than radiant power?

[timber pawn]

If you running FB you running Guile

[inland escarp]

Because the robot said so

[drifting cloud]

you can just play fatebound, DS just has so many bugs right now the only reason theres going to be top DS parses is just because its mostly boost runs

[lofty python]

Gotcha. Thank you sir

[drifting cloud]

but if you want to play DS youd just save vanish for after intermission to reapply the mark on the boss

and accept youre probably losing it during it

[celest onyx]

what is this assassination bug im hearing about?

[dim meteor]

is there a way to get this jasper diamond still?

[runic hinge]

Shouldn’t

I mean you can get it

But you shouldn’t

[dim meteor]

showing bis on archon.gg

[main blaze]

Please take mine instead. In ring hell.

[nova kelp]

Please don't listen to that then

[solar hare]

Archon is based on logs, we're at week 2 of the season, people might still be using last season gear until they get another high mastery ring to replace it

[dim meteor]

okok ty

[nova kelp]

It's also because a lot of those people are rocking it instead of other rings they've picked up because they're being baited by the sim

or, unknowingly baited by the presence of probable bug in game

[dim meteor]

wel one of the top rogues on wclogs is using it

so i wasnt sure

[balmy condor]

yeh

probably doesn't have a myth ring to replace

[dim meteor]

stilx on illidan

[balmy condor]

no clue who that is

but jastor sims really high

and a 0.3% ring upgrade

won't stop people from parsing

[dim meteor]

ok

thx

good to know

[balmy condor]

for reference

most specs when played perfectly

have a pull to pull variance

of 10-18%

assa is around 14%

[dense cove]

i watched your video, i think fatebound 4pc bug is actually worse since the 'hotfix'

i used to just get the cd desync at the beginning of the fight, now i'm getting it midfight

[balmy condor]

well if you didn't get the dsync at the beginning, you were always able to get it mid pull

[dense cove]

ahh i must've just been extremely lucky to not get it midfight

[solar hare]

That's why I get a kingsbane so early

I was so confused why I would get kingsbane 20seconds before a deathmark when using both on cd

[dense cove]

is there any rule of thumb on what to do when cds get de-synced? like in opener do you just skip the 2nd kingsbane? or you just go ahead and send without cb then wait for dm, cb, kb

[drifting cloud]

delay your cds like it didnt bug

unless extra cast might help you on a particular boss

but pretty unlikely atleast in mythic since you have a rough idea of kill timers

[solar hare]

i'm not good enough to know that, I just rip on CDs. Even the vanish that I would need to sync every 3 mins, I just slam it in the kingsbane macro.
I guess it could be put in the deathmark macro to have it every 3min/DM

The only fight where I held cds was Salhazaar, for the add phase, it then would also sync for the amp phase

[devout quest]

when should i be using vanish? j to reapply my dots when they are running out on the pack?

[chilly marsh]

raidbots night version already have trinket nerfs and buffs?

[solar hare]

I use mine when the tank chain pulls into a big pack. Otherwise it's during or right before deathmark to reapply improved garrote/master assassin's crit buff

The higher you go in keys, the more your garrotes will fall before the mob dies. It then only stays on your main target.
For rupture, you try to maintain it on 5 targets for the agility buff. Assuming the targets will live for 10+ seconds

[deep hemlock]

any news of blizz fixing sin bugs?

[balmy condor]

if there isn't a pin, there isn't news

[deep hemlock]

dammnnnnnnn

[balmy condor]

you're like the 900th person to ask today

I promise I would've made something

[deep hemlock]

i popped into cord after watching your vid xD

hoping for something

[balmy condor]

welcome to hell

at this rate honestly I need to make a video when it gets fixed

the amount of DM's and pings I've been getting

is just

[thick zinc]

Do you think the 3% crit nerf on antenna is enough to make in not-bis

[balmy condor]

so crazy

[balmy condor]

depends how much you suck at picking up the orb I guess

probably still bis at 15%

[deep hemlock]

ty for the work Whispyr

[balmy condor]

once we're talking like 20, 25, THIRTY% miss rate

probably not bis

[deep hemlock]

hopefully they work on it

[balmy condor]

I hope so too

[halcyon saddle]

when you say miss rate are you talking about your uptime?

[golden loom]

Pacemaker gang rise up

[dim nymph]

nu uh idol gang

[balmy condor]

miss rate on antenna

[golden loom]

I would rather die

[real granite]

idol gang what

what should be happening in someones head to like idol

[dim nymph]

yes

[dim nymph]

also yes

[drifting cloud]

ecodome awaits

[real granite]

pacemakers stay strong

[fallow canopy]

any knowers, if you shadowstep mid push/wall break animation on fractillus does the wall break still?

[dim nymph]

literally trolling if not use idol

[halcyon saddle]

yeah how do you quantify the miss rate? Is more my question

[balmy condor]

the trinket procs and you don't pick up the orb

[golden loom]

From watching a lot RFW it felt like exile/kush/perfecto were kinda insta stepping?

Could be wrong

[real granite]

uhm, probably depends on your stats, but lily, pacemaker, netherprism, antenna fuck antena, all probably better options

[fallow canopy]

gotcha bout to kill my raid testing this 🫡

[dim nymph]

let me succesfully ragebait sir

[real granite]

im currently going luly + netherprism, it sims better for me

[golden loom]

The more I think about it the more unsure I am tho

But test it out big dawg

[real granite]

without hhhheshitation ser

[brave chasm]

any one having issues with Caustic Spatter not applying? seems to only happen on one toon with 4 piece. I tried removed the tier pieces as well but can't trigger it

[balmy condor]

!causticbug

[prisma monolith]

Caustic is not bugged. The Green Puddle on the ground is Poison Bomb, not Caustic Spatter. You are either:

1. Not using Deadly/Amplifying poison (or its not applied to your target)
2. Not using Rupture on your target
3. Not using Mutilate/Ambush if the above two are applied

[normal mist]

Lol

Causticbug - caustic is not bugged

Whodaboi

[brave chasm]

I had to change into fatebound then back to DS to get it to work again ol

[normal mist]

Is that happening in karesh

When you're phased?

[balmy condor]

does your fatebound build have caustic talented?

[dapper cradle]

[brave chasm]

I changed it to have it lol

then went back to DS to try

I swear I'm not crazy lol

[cunning needle]

whats what a crazy person would say

[normal mist]

The best way is to record the bug happening

[balmy condor]

we've had like 150 people saying they're not crazy

[cunning needle]

then we have physical evidence which we can use to mock you

[brave chasm]

yeah I should've i thought it was originally a WA bug= but then logged onto an alt rogue and it worked there

[cunning needle]

[brave chasm]

but on the main it wouldn't work until I swapped talent trees. if It happens again I'll record it for evidence! lol

[sharp sinew]

Is indiscriminate carnage not good for soulhunters?

[brave chasm]

[normal mist]

Play m+ bleed build there

Works really well

[meager plank]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1403486905915408524/Dark_Mode.jpg

[drifting cloud]

thats a talent loadout visual bug

Ive had it before

but since caustic is like the only talent you swap on rogue you think its that

[brave chasm]

hmmm checked details and didn't see it in the damage either

[drifting cloud]

you mean IB?

[sharp sinew]

dude

youre right

legend

[brave chasm]

worked one key then at the start of the next noticed it wasn't applying anymore. Tried everything from reload, logging off, exiting game. like I mentioned, didn't work again until i swapped into Fatebound and then back to DS

lol if it happens again I'll take evidence of it

[normal mist]

Idk if you were talking mythic or heroic, but in heroic it worked pretty well for me, good parse too

[drifting cloud]

yes but do you have internal bleeding

in that next key

[sharp sinew]

heroic

[drifting tiger]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[brave chasm]

no it was on Caustic, i didn't swap talents between keys

its okay, I can seem like the crazy person for now lol

[drifting cloud]

I mean if you can see it in the logs

or details

because like whispyr said youre like the 100th person with the problem

[brave chasm]

yeah,I checked there it make sure if it was just my WA, details didn't have caustic

[cunning needle]

https://tenor.com/view/shake-freak-out-crazy-wild-ahh-gif-15649052

[fallow canopy]

works

shadowstep at your own leisure

[brave chasm]

okay so I recreated it

hold on, let me see if I can clip it. It happens when I change spec

[balmy condor]

another spec change bug

[strange moss]

hi im using whispyrs wa and i notice that there is a point after 5 combo points that the combo points go green. does that mean i can use finishers there and it doesnt affect my damage or should i get all combo points before using a finisher?

[solar hare]

assa is spend on 5+

[balmy condor]

green means go

[solar hare]

only exception is darkest night

[balmy condor]

(the combo points will change for darkest night as well)

[solar hare]

oh even better then

[strange moss]

gotcha thanks

[golden loom]

massive

[balmy condor]

Mate

You have instant poison

[real granite]

do spatter actually works with isntant?

XD

[drifting cloud]

I wanted to say

I bet its poisons

[balmy condor]

No of course not

[drifting cloud]

but I was afraid for a second Id lose

[balmy condor]

It’s not a debuff

[brave chasm]

oh wait LMAO

[real granite]

aha

[brave chasm]

nvm, I am crazy and I am stupid

[balmy condor]

Yet another win for !causticbug

Crazy people 0
!causticbug 396

[drifting cloud]

bro I had it pretyped whispyr

[brave chasm]

🤣

[drifting cloud]

I SWEAR

[runic hinge]

369 very fine

[drifting cloud]

tony believfes me

[runic hinge]

GET LOW

[brave chasm]

yikes

[drifting cloud]

cuz he said spec swaps

[brave chasm]

yeah, prior to the key I was gonna run as sub but then decide to go sin. but now I'm just dumb 🙂

[runic hinge]

It happens

You aren’t the first nor will you be the last

[dapper cradle]

Causticbugs built diff

[brave chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/fucking-embarrassing-coach-letter-kenny-embarrassed-gif-14474570

[idle vine]

i woke up hoping to see assassination hotfixes, but only trinket ones

depression

[drowsy harness]

They'll randomly get fixed with no notes on them

[sullen monolith]

So i realized that im not pumping anymore … and i heard a hidden nerf of approx 15% …. What did they do again????

[dapper cradle]

They’ll get baked into the tree

[buoyant herald]

Check the pins for the bugs

Not sure it’s that much all of a sudden though

[sullen monolith]

Pnly the singular bug and custic nerf hit so hard?

Not sure :/

But caustic is a flat 8% on the main dmg source + the singular

So maybe actually

True

[sharp sinew]

!gear

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1405681489470951594/sin_.webp

[main bridge]

just some creator clickbait. there is no source for that number. there are bugs but i don't have any idea how they could possibly quantify the number

most of those bugs are not new either

[buoyant herald]

Caustic is what a 20% nerf to 10-15% or your damage

So like 2-3%

Singular stuff based off that is maybe another 1 or 2% overall if that

[idle vine]

anyone know if trinket tuning will impact much for bis?

[drifting tiger]

!macro

[prisma monolith]

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[amber brook]

will we get hotfixed on reset

[woven frost]

“These aren’t ‘bugs,’ they’re features”

-Blizzard likely tomorrow

[runic hinge]

Here is some aura buffs to fix your bugs. Goodbye and so long.

[woven frost]

Even with bugs, it still has felt good to play in M+. Could be a lot worse.

[golden loom]

M+ still has bleeds + sanguine double dipping aura buff for like 2% gain, but deathstalker in raid is fucked by singular focus in particular

[runic hinge]

So is it fb every boss?

[fallen arch]

You don’t all of a sudden realize ur not pumping anymore though

That’s just weird

[wet spire]

no but you notice the random shit like cds being weird on bosses that they werent before for sure

[nocturne quail]

wasnt there some fix for belt breaking stealth ?

[runic hinge]

Use a different node

[drifting cloud]

if the belt is breaking your stealth youre using the wrong power

[odd python]

Ok I am driving to work, did they fix assa?

[runic hinge]

No but you should pay attention to the road

[neat plank]

man.. at the start of tww because of bugs I switched off my long term rogue main to fury and other stuff, now I came back to my rogue in S3 and was like "oh this is so much fun, I remember why I mained rogue" and here we are with broken stuff again

[runic hinge]

I mean it’s still fun with the bugs

[neat plank]

it's my fault for even reading discord, ignorance is bliss

i could just be pumping in peace

[polar rampart]

they are design features

[cedar elbow]

For M+ is the go to always the bleed build? If not where do people tend to go more of the hybrid build?

[polar rampart]

when things will live kingsbane probably

but bleed good rn

[nocturne quail]

Maybe streets/DB cleave is playable

[bitter compass]

@balmy condor ouch 😂😂 thanks for the log review dude, appreciate it!

[haughty flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/well-never-know-whats-behind-that-link-ignace-aleya-we-dont-know-what-it-contains-we-dont-know-what-it-is-all-about-we-wont-know-whats-behind-that-link-gif-17789165

[bitter compass]

Oh damn

[marsh zinc]

In CDs do I shiv the last 8 sec of DM or kb?

[onyx pond]

!macro

[prisma monolith]

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[onyx pond]

can anyone send me their rapture macro ?

[cunning needle]

rapture has been removed from priests

[waxen oyster]

#showtooltip

/cast [mod:alt,@mouseover,exists,nodead] [mod:alt] Rapture; [@mouseover,exists,nodead] [] Power Word: Shield

[cunning needle]

since last year or something

[balmy condor]

That’s a peepee whackin

[light grove]

Which belt power do we use rn ?

[buoyant herald]

crit or mastery

[dapper halo]

new trinket tuning

[nova kelp]

you keep handing out those and people might actually start paying you for it

steppin into that findom life

[dapper halo]

are there sim results yet

[balmy condor]

Maybe I would actually make a living from content creation that way

[balmy condor]

Antenna is 3% less bis than before

And then a bunch of random junk is less junk

There’s your sims

[thorn thorn]

Alright who is willing to review my new players dungeon logs

[pulsar elk]

M+ bleed, in st i dont need to stay above 50% energy. For two targets, does this change to keep energy above 50%?

[thorn thorn]

I wont ask quake

[balmy condor]

You don’t make an effort around sanguine blades, it just happens

[thorn thorn]

Cuz he got madge last time

[bitter compass]

Trinket placement, DM windows, shiv placement and 4CP Envenoms. I’ll fix it sensei 🫡😂

[pulsar elk]

oh okay, so just spend the energy

[balmy condor]

Yessir

[haughty flicker]

was trying to pug a last couple keys to get 3k this week

[grim jay]

@spice spire

[haughty flicker]

tanks have not yet learned not to go left in priory i guess

[thorn thorn]

Last time I asked quake for a log key review he got madge

[haughty flicker]

because every one i get goes left then gets fucking smacked on the boss

[grim jay]

Maybe he had a bad dream

[grim jay]

The heals are so bad like idk

We had a resto sham dying 4 times at the last boss in a 14 priory

Like.. How?

[haughty flicker]

sad times

i get it tomorrow with group anyway but wouldve been cool to get tonight

[grim jay]

Ye needless to say we didnt time it because of that

[haughty flicker]

its ok he was just making sure ankh works

[grim jay]

Was the last key for my friends resilient

[waxen oyster]

Left superior

dont have to worry about ape dps not kicking

[grim jay]

But we did get the 14 Halls first try, which isnt to be expected with some randoms, especially if its a heal

[icy roost]

Some1 knows if the antenna nerfs will make it not BiS anymore?

[buoyant herald]

doubt

it was a 3% nerf to the crit proc

which is like...a gem's worth

[minor coyote]

guys quick question

say's other gems ruby

meaning i go all gems ruby then?

[buoyant herald]

it means once you've maxed the diamond by having one of each colour

you do masterful ruby

[minor coyote]

what are all the gems

sorry im new

[buoyant herald]

you'd want the diamond as listed, a deadly onyx (mast>crit), a deadly sapphire (vers> crit), a deadly emerald (haste>crit), then fill the rest with mastery rubies (crit>mast)

[minor coyote]

i see, thank you

[golden loom]

or you can just run whatever

[buoyant herald]

this is true but im trying to answer the exact question 😛

[golden loom]

ye true

[buoyant herald]

sometimes i feel bad for the fresh folks in here who just want an answer and get told a mix of "sim it" and "do whatever it doesn't matter" however true that may be

[minor coyote]

i also think it's probably very nit picky, but in the consumables guide

and then if i go to another source (same person, same page)

it's different

[golden loom]

yeah its more of a thing where you cant really go wrong, just having gems is enough pretty much

[golden loom]

top one is more up to date, councils guile good

(or the mastery weapon enchant)

depending on what sims best for your char

[magic ravine]

Im being told assa is nerfed with a recent fix

"fix"

Is that true ?

[golden loom]

well it got nerfed by a bugfix yes, and then also some uninteded bugs appeared which nerfed it a bit further

(surely that gets fixed soon though )

[balmy condor]

son of a bitch

how many fucking consumable tables do I have in my guide

[minor coyote]

i love you, sorry

🏃‍♂️‍➡️

[runic hinge]

Consume deeze

[balmy condor]

where even is that

[minor coyote]

in the token season 3 overall

[balmy condor]

oh

the season 3

yeah okay

time to copy paste

[minor coyote]

all is the same

except the weapon

[thorn thorn]

Also whispyr i think my new player is gonna get banned

[balmy condor]

did he say a slur

[minor coyote]

@balmy condor do we go for council then 😄 ?

[balmy condor]

yeah any of the secondary ones are fine

just not depths or power

assassination gearing basically boils down to this

you just kinda equip ilvl

and if you don't have a stat

you get that stat

it's giga pissvibing

[thorn thorn]

Me and a pug tank got into a flaming match over his route so he just out of pocket asks the tank if they have tried lock and load

[balmy condor]

good game

[thorn thorn]

If any of you instantly know what that is

Shame on you

[static glacier]

Hunter proc?

[golden loom]

I have the best of both worlds equipped as rings

[static glacier]

Or they talking about self harm?

[balmy condor]

real

big champ ring

[thorn thorn]

Google lock and load

Its a “supplement”

If you could call it that

[golden loom]

I have it on hero track also but why spend money on more gems when champ ring is the same

[fallen arch]

Is it bad if you have like uh, no vers

For some reason I got like no vers on anything

[thorn thorn]

But yes we were flaming cuz his chain pulling was terrible

[static glacier]

Bruh wtf

[thorn thorn]

He would pull one pack, wait a bit, then pull another

[static glacier]

Volume enhancer

[thorn thorn]

Not even waiting for dangerous enemies or casters to be dead

Bro just pulled more when it felt right

[fallen arch]

Vibetanker

Nice

[thorn thorn]

Admittedly he is more free than any of us will ever be

But the pulls he did were just mega aids

[haughty flicker]

sounds based as fuck

[old ridge]

S3 we need a lot of crit ?

[fathom kayak]

for big aoe pulls in m+, should I trink once mobs reach 35% hp if they live long enough or on pull?

[marsh zinc]

On wowhead guide it says mutilate after vanish in many logs I see ambush does this make a difference?

And in the guide it says second shiv after first one fades but do I wait till kb is on 8 sec or do I send it right away for deathmark?

[balmy condor]

for fatebound yes

[balmy condor]

on pull

[balmy condor]

doesn't make a difference

shiv when the first fades

[old ridge]

isnt deathstalker better for M+ than fatebound?

[balmy condor]

it is

[marsh zinc]

So the last ticks of kb go unbuffed right? Feels weird 😂

[balmy condor]

correct

but it literally doesn't matter, cause kingsbane's stacks are maxed out after like

3, 4 seconds

deathmark doubling poisons makes it go real hard

[marsh zinc]

Is that new?

[balmy condor]

which part of that

[red schooner]

The robot keeps demanding more crit. I'm at 49℅ crit now. It wants more

[marsh zinc]

I thought more poison=more dmg

[static glacier]

The core of the question is: is lingering + kb or dm + kb more valuable to shiv

[zenith elm]

It always wants more

[static glacier]

Since you cap stacks suuuuper fast

[balmy condor]

yes, but kingsbane caps at 50 stacks

[minor coyote]

these are my current stats guys, based on the BiS list/gems etc

hopefully it's good for now..?

[balmy condor]

what

[old ridge]

shit im at 31% crit

[balmy condor]

on deathstalker your shiv lasts an entirnety already

[marsh zinc]

Yeah well that makes a lot of sense then thank u

[balmy condor]

you get both

what's it matter

[balmy condor]

lot of haste but yeah looking better

those trinkets make me vomit a little

but no biggie

[minor coyote]

yeah, my luck with trinkets

is

[static glacier]

The choice between shiving early or late for the 2nd shiv in fatebound CDs

[golden loom]

double crafted weapon?

[minor coyote]

don't ask i was a day one player

😭

[balmy condor]

but you said lingering darkness

[minor coyote]

i crafted it didnt know it was the biggest mistake

[golden loom]

fair

[static glacier]

Wait I’m fucking hallucinating

[minor coyote]

and you dont even wanna know which one is it

[static glacier]

Fuck

[golden loom]

stiletto? int dagger?

[minor coyote]

go laugh 🙁

https://tenor.com/view/druski-rage-angry-annoyed-whatever-gif-5126333390325209476

[balmy condor]

better than int dagger

[wet vortex]

Hah

[minor coyote]

my 2 sparks

-2 weeks

[wet vortex]

I deleted my char cuz of int dagger, so its better than int dagger

[minor coyote]

its okay we learned and addapted

and crafted this beauty

🥹

in a week i assume i craft the wrists then?

and im donezo?

[marsh zinc]

I mainly got sub stuff going so I have netherprism for my on use

That is used on every dm?

[thorn thorn]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/KD6MVtbgFxY8Tzcr

here are the logs from some keys i did with new person tonight. Specifically i want to look at the HOA and/or Streets if someone doesnt mind taking a gander. Normally I would use Wowa but it claims its super outdated

[balmy condor]

every on deathstalker, every other on fatebound

[balmy condor]

yes

[zenith elm]

good morning fellow rogues

[minor coyote]

i bought these consu from the guide

but i can't seem to use them

[golden loom]

thats a weightstone

probably for 2 handers?

blunt weapon doesnt sound like a dagger atleast

[minor coyote]

the guide said to buy this

[dense cedar]

Reading is hard

[golden loom]

should be "Whetstone" in that case, but currently algari mana oil is the go to for most

[minor coyote]

OH SHI-

It's so similar

https://tenor.com/view/ziarastar-gif-13773355496627869824

yeah i can't read

[vague sun]

Blunt weapons are for example maces and fist weapons, so could still be useful for you as outlaw

[sterile jackal]

only maces

[vague sun]

True, sorry

Wait, I can use both on my fist weapons

[minor coyote]

holy i am so stupid, i forgot i cleared soul hunters yesterday

i was in a lobby for 25minutes

waiting for people to fill up / join

for me to realize i done it yday

[quiet oar]

[ashen orbit]

Is the forge nerf big?

[quiet oar]

Forge didnt get a nerf afaik

only antenna ?

[ashen orbit]

oh sorry

antenna

brain fart

im dumb

[quiet oar]

3% isnt much tbh

[ashen orbit]

that's what I thought

[quiet oar]

Prolly still BiS, but less gap

[ashen orbit]

When it gives like 1500 crit, 3% doesnt seem that bad

[peak lake]

the main thing is for a melee, u can kite antenna and proc it x2-x3 for burst windows

[sick garnet]

Another advice: The runes that you bought are very expensive and you have to re-apply after death. As long as you dont plan on doing any high m+ or mythic raid, that is the first consumable i would drop. Unless you dont care about the gold, then go for it

[peak lake]

even with nerf it will still be bis

[minor coyote]

i only figured to use on raid

[real pike]

Europoor that just woke up here, heard antenna got nerfed? Any chads over the pond simmed the difference? I'm sure this question hasn't been asked at all in here yet

[minor coyote]

with my guild

normal/heroic for now

don't intend on just re-applying it every death

stuff is expensive :x

[real pike]

/s btw please don't ban me

What I am genuinely interested to know is if the nerf means it's no longer bis for any other classes that had closer alternatives which will remove some competition for it if it drops

[vagrant tendon]

if you talk about a pug environment they will need anyways

[dapper halo]

theres those who need on anything and everything they can

just to get dat dopamine

[real pike]

Haha nah in guild with some actual consideration from the officers as well as different roll options

If it moves from a bis roll to an upgrade roll for even one other class I smol happy

[shy axle]

it will still be bis for most i guess, it was 50k over myth pacemaker for me

[balmy condor]

well you also have to sim with some miss rate

people simming 0% miss on antenna and then going "ah it's +125 million dps"

kinda delusional

if you sim with like 15% miss, antenna loses a fair bit of value

[haughty flicker]

but i never miss

https://tenor.com/view/hit-or-miss-hit-or-miss-guess-gif-13001450

[rain coral]

hey guys i dont exactly understand the idea of the Unyielding Netherprism Explanatio, it says you should macro it with deathmark or vanish

how do you use it ? in M+ and in Raid

[midnight mist]

you can miss antenna?

tf

[red schooner]

Just wait until you parry your own antenna

[midnight mist]

which one am i supposed to be looking at

[wheat hill]

anyone know if its worth replacing jastor Diamond with a 701 ring?

[quaint spindle]

Hero track good secondary stats yes

[rain coral]

hey guys i dont exactly understand the idea of the Unyielding Netherprism Explanatio, it says you should macro it with deathmark or vanish
how do you use it ? in M+ and in Raid

[shy axle]

damn you can miss it, never knew

[haughty flicker]

with it being bugged yeah probably

[balmy condor]

the top one is the proc, the bottom one is the hit

[wheat hill]

didn't even know it was bugged lol

[shy axle]

@rain coral Deathstalker with DM, Fatebound every 3 minutes or flexible

[glossy grove]

When do you think Assa is fixed again?

[midnight mist]

like the top is the first application and the bottom one are extends idk ?

[haughty flicker]

never

[midnight mist]

eh i dont get it

its just a proc no

[balmy condor]

it's an orb

like the witherbark branch

[midnight mist]

ye

[crisp venture]

m+ u macro to dm, raid u macro to vanish

afaik

[balmy condor]

the orb floats towards you

it doesn't follow you

[midnight mist]

ye

[balmy condor]

so if it procs

and you move

you're not where the orb is

[midnight mist]

wtf thats crazy

[haughty flicker]

even if you stand still the little guy just stops next to you

[midnight mist]

btu why is there 2 parts to it

[haughty flicker]

just to troll a bit

[hearty seal]

good to know
I can stick with my seaforium for now then

[balmy condor]

because one is the orb spawning

and the other is you picking up the orb

[hearty seal]

since barely any boss is a target dummy with no movement

[midnight mist]

ooh

[balmy condor]

like you can see

green up top

the orb spawns

you pick up

[midnight mist]

yeye

[balmy condor]

you get yellow bar

this is the spawn

this is the pickup

[midnight mist]

ye

i get it

[balmy condor]

[midnight mist]

ok i get similar to sim tbh

even at 100%

and i was unaware i had to pick it up

[vernal adder]

interesting bugs ass got

[balmy condor]

I've seen like 15% high end miss

[midnight mist]

like tf

[rain coral]

i get it how you macro it, but how do you use it? in M+ just with DM (also wait until 18 stacks) and in Raid you vanish when you you got 18 stacks?

[midnight mist]

thats so high then

Can I game it or not since it says multiple can overlap I assume delaying a pick up is useless

[balmy condor]

this is rank 1 frost dk on araz

25 procs

21 hits

so that's nearly 20% miss

[balmy condor]

it's like iron fur

they have their own timers

[midnight mist]

what a noob

[balmy condor]

or twist the knife

same thing

[midnight mist]

im getting almost 100% of them it seems

[haughty flicker]

what a gamer

[midnight mist]

like 14vs 15, 24/25 im seeing

idk

maybe im goated

[balmy condor]

the orbs move pretty quick

unless you're like running all over the place

[midnight mist]

nah i must be goated

[balmy condor]

you'll probably get most of them

[short sedge]

The orb gobbler

[balmy condor]

but like high movement fights like araz

[midnight mist]

mayeb fract

ye

[balmy condor]

you probably miss at least a couple

[midnight mist]

let me check

imma chec ksoul hunter cause

thats the most movement heavy fight

ever

or

[balmy condor]

this hunter I looked at on fract is 18/20

so that's 10% miss

[midnight mist]

nah idk im goated man

[balmy condor]

that's almost 10% miss

[midnight mist]

ok what about this one buddy

[balmy condor]

noob @spice surge

[midnight mist]

[balmy condor]

on his soulbinder kill on thursday

[midnight mist]

washed up

wtf

[balmy condor]

missing nearly 30% of orbs

still doing 8.5 mil on soulbinder

my literal goat

25% miss rate on plexus from this random hunter

yeh

[midnight mist]

dude i got half the usual proc on my soul hunter kill wtf is this

[balmy condor]

I think like simmming 10-15% is probably realisitic

[midnight mist]

hate rng !

now that i know about it imma just track it and have 100% uptime

seems easy enough

only noobs miss their antenna no capi

[dapper halo]

miau