assassination

[misty lark]

depends on 4 set or not

ilvl

pulls ect

[honest needle]

we both have 4 set and big pulls

[cedar dagger]

lads what build ccan we play for more ST on m+ ?

I deal like 2.5m on 14's man its so low.

[misty lark]

i find myself keeping up with 4 set dks on 2 set still

what key level?

[honest needle]

assuming both rogue and dk have 4 set should they be beating us by a mill or more

10s-12s

[balmy condor]

probably not

[balmy condor]

cleave

[mighty whale]

Did the WA always look like this? 🤔

[honest needle]

cause my friend is shitting on me and i feel like im playing correctly

[balmy condor]

are you on an english client or a different language

[cedar dagger]

this one?

[mighty whale]

English

[balmy condor]

yes

wait

what

[cedar dagger]

is it optimal?

[balmy condor]

that's a raid build lmao

[cedar dagger]

u said cleave

this is my cleave raid build xd

[balmy condor]

yes

m+ cleave

no

[cedar dagger]

oooo

can u share the build please?

[balmy condor]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/rogue/assassination/talent-builds-pve-dps

[balmy condor]

when was the last time you updated?

[cedar dagger]

which buiild is it? raid cleave?

[balmy condor]

brother

if only there was a table of contents on your screen

[mighty whale]

about 10 minutes ago, it was fine until I swapped back and forth to sub but its persisting through reload/exiting the game

[balmy condor]

CMQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMjZmZmxM2mBAAAAAgZB2mBAAAAAg22mZGMzYMzMLzyMzMYGzYwMzsZZMDwmZZgBsEsMMBGWA

just take this

I will do it

np

[cedar dagger]

jahahaha love u whysp

[honest needle]

@balmy condor is bleeedd build ahead by alot for m+ or is hybrid back

[balmy condor]

hybrid sucks ass

[misty lark]

bleed

[honest needle]

is it a big dps loss if u let caustic spatter fall of for 1 second n put it back on right away ?

[balmy condor]

I don't get it, this bug has been around all expansion but it's not reproducable and I've tried to fix it so many times

I can swap talents and specs all I want

but I can't get it to happen

[honest needle]

?

[balmy condor]

and I have 0 understanding as to why pistol shot is on there

like the load conditions explicitly block it

[mighty whale]

odd I'll just delete it and reinstall

[honest needle]

@balmy condor u saw what i said about if caustic falls off for a sec is thata big dps loss can we refresh it early if so

[mighty whale]

ok i figured out what breaks it

[balmy condor]

I'm not your personal chatgpt mate it's 1 second you'll fucking live

[balmy condor]

on pistol shot?

[warm vortex]

Did my first pug 12 of the season

even with a semi wipe pull 1 i think i did goog

[mighty whale]

if I change it to only load on assassination it goes all zany and adds pistol shot

[balmy condor]

well yeh

but it shouldn't be that

like on a fresh import, it's set to load on outlaw

like that's what I don't get, there's ways to break it ofc

but I don't get how it breaks unless someone goes in and fucks with stuff

[warm vortex]

Still ugh about the CT damage though, feel like i could have gotten it higher

[honest needle]

if we do run out of energy how high do we pool before we go into rotation again

[warm vortex]

sending gilded crests on my mythic tier chest should be like, completly fine right

[minor coyote]

hi guys

i dropped this dagger

[balmy condor]

gratz

[minor coyote]

is this worse/better?

my main hand is the 720 BiS one

[balmy condor]

oh no.

[native turret]

Wtf is that

[balmy condor]

that's the dagger you're not supposed to craft

[minor coyote]

i ugh...

crafted that day one

when starting wow

i know 😢

-2 sparks

[warm vortex]

Ouch

[balmy condor]

anyway

the rule is

[minor coyote]

i did craft this one later on.

when i understodd what to craft

[balmy condor]

whatever biggest ilvl in your main-hand

and then your offhand you wear whatever

so in this case

since you don't have another embellishment other than that shitetto

you probably still wear the shitetto

[minor coyote]

and if i upgrade the dagger i got?

to 6/6

[balmy condor]

not worth thinking about

I mean I guess maybe you can crest save to 704

and then it's just.... the same thing? but without the embellishment

so it would still just be worse

when you get spark 3 and recraft your bracers with the correct embellishment though

that shitetto goes in the bin

[minor coyote]

whats the "Embelishment"

[balmy condor]

and the hero dagger you dropped replaces it

[minor coyote]

i know im waiting for sparks to get my wrists

[balmy condor]

the bonus text

[native turret]

Writhing armor

[balmy condor]

these are embellishments

[novel dock]

!macro

[prisma monolith]

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[balmy condor]

yeah don't do that

get it to 704

[native turret]

Don't waste gilded on heroic gear

[minor coyote]

oh 💀

i did on my set pieces

[native turret]

Lmao

[balmy condor]

yeh, but also don't waste crests on offhand daggers either

[minor coyote]

used my crests

[balmy condor]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1387194737072541778/1405402744206004328/image.png?ex=68abe1cd&is=68aa904d&hm=f01bc4cf9bd021a60f22da3a5c641ab31066bdc688078ab9d6df8b7d874d9fa5&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1032&height=387

[native turret]

Cadizz you're cooked

[balmy condor]

he's new

[minor coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/druski-rage-angry-annoyed-whatever-gif-5126333390325209476

[native turret]

I know im teasing

[balmy condor]

world of warcraft itemization is dogshit

it is what it is

[minor coyote]

it's okay we will recover

🐐

[balmy condor]

he hasn't suffered yet

[native turret]

Yeah you got this

[balmy condor]

at least it's shitetto and not an int dagger

think about that

[native turret]

I promise it wont actually matter soon

[warm vortex]

Turns out the macro i use to pot and deathmark for some reason had priory trink on it instead of lily

Only found that out before last run

[native turret]

Yeah I crafted an int dagger in df

[warm vortex]

so this entire time i haven't been using my lily

[native turret]

Ngl

[balmy condor]

hows it feel to be the dumbest fucker in the room at any given point in time

[native turret]

Hehehe

Its okay we learned

[dry shoal]

!gear

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1405681489470951594/sin_.webp

[subtle cedar]

what's a good crit/mas ratio for deathstalker? sry if this is a question with an obvious answer

[native turret]

Sim it

Droptimize

Top gear

[iron ivy]

/Use 13 for trinket slot 1 instead of using the trinket name

Then you only have to worry about which trinket is in which slot 🙂

[balmy condor]

it's not an obvious answer, there's just no good way to answer this without saying "sim it" or being fully delusional about how gearing works

[subtle cedar]

ahh gotchu so it'll always be case by case depending on my gear on hand

[native turret]

Ye

[balmy condor]

yeh

[native turret]

Jinx u owe me a kiss

[balmy condor]

and like worst case is you have to change your enchants

or your gems

or the fiber in your cloak

you can realistically cup-game like 7k secondary stat

just by swapping a bunch of shit around

it's usually not really worth ever doing that

but you could

[native turret]

Yeah if it's less than 10k fuck them gems

[hot pasture]

do u think guys they will fix bugs on assa?

[native turret]

No

[balmy condor]

god I'd hope so

[native turret]

Which one

[balmy condor]

or else what did I record this 22 min video for

just to bitch?

[native turret]

Hope they take ds and fb out back

[subtle cedar]

i see, and if i were to play a different spec then id need to change the enchants accordingly on my set piece gear orr?

cuz id have to pay each time right?

[native turret]

Yeah whatever sims best but realistically this tier you would only maybe swap a trinket rings and a weapon at most

Maybe neck

I play all three specs I just swap trinkets weapons jewelry and fiber

You could min max with the fifth tier piece too but fuck that

[subtle cedar]

oh okay that's awesome to hear, felt underwhelmed with my boss damage in raid and was hoping to learn sub so that's good news

[native turret]

Assa and sub stats aren't wildly different. Sub likes crit too.

You could use same set for both and just find different rings amd neck

I use prism and antenna on sub and lily and antenna on assa and two different rings and I think that's it?

I use priory neck on both and vers fiber on sub and crit fiber on assa

[neon bridge]

stats on crafted wrist?

[native turret]

Crit mastery

[neon bridge]

ty

[native turret]

Im 708 with pretty optimized gear so ymmv

[subtle cedar]

gotchu, thanks for all the help. 2 hero prisms dropped in my raid today and they went to both my guilds dks after roll 😭

[native turret]

That's so sad. Prism is so good on sub. Hope you get one in vault

I am using a warbound veteran one

Its that good.

Its my only piece below 704

[subtle cedar]

im not complaining too much bc i got a boe and a warbound astral antenna today

[native turret]

Bigggg

Antenna fucks on every rogue spec and most every spec in game.

[subtle cedar]

mhm i was looking at rtwf trinkets and saw every dps holding one LMAO

[native turret]

Yeah its busted.

[subtle cedar]

raid gear this tier is crazier than normal i feel

[native turret]

Sometimes you get three or four orbs at once that line up with cooldowns and its juicy

I think forge would have been insane as well if it didn't catch last minute nerf. Still very good on deathstalker assa.

[golden storm]

Anyone else having an issue with deathstalker mark disappearing on forgeweaver pylons?

[subtle cedar]

mhm got champ track forge last week which i use for ds assa

[subtle cedar]

yes but I'm just convinced it's bc i suck at the game

and don't know how to manage my mark

[native turret]

I told my guild I was progging as assa but then saw how well sub was doing and I might have lied. I have gear for both and have only taken antenna so

[golden storm]

Yeah, I might give in and do sub rogue for a few fights. 90 second fatebound is fun but not ideal for several fights. Also I don’t think it’s a management issue, pylon dies and no darkest night buff.

[subtle cedar]

i think some fights are better suited for assa and some for sub

[native turret]

Definitely.

Fights you would play fb assa on are probably just better sub

[marsh fjord]

😂😂😂

[subtle cedar]

exactly my thought

[golden storm]

Fate bound seems solid on Loom and plexus

[subtle cedar]

but fb assa is easy so till i learn sub

[native turret]

Just depends on timers and uptime

[marsh fjord]

Frac you play fatebound assa. And you think sub is better?

Your capping bro

[native turret]

That's one fight and I haven't gotten to it on mythic yet

So I would say I have no idea.

[golden storm]

Sub really isn’t that hard anymore, I just dislike it because I miss shadow dust.

[marsh fjord]

The only bosses where sub are better is if there is a damage amp. Or a lot of adds that come in certain fights

[native turret]

So like half the raid

[marsh fjord]

Plexus fatebound better

Loom fatebound better

Frac fatebound better

[native turret]

Loom has a damage amp.

[marsh fjord]

Doesn’t matter it’s to long

And execute matters

[subtle cedar]

but does ds assa do better is the heavy ad fights?

[marsh fjord]

If the adds re constantly there

But if they come in waves

Then not

I genuinely dislike people opinions that are so: sub is the better fatebound. They are 2 different damage profiles how the fuck can you even compare them

[sharp junco]

any1 have tips for a big WA that includes trackign for how many mobs have garotte/rupture

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[thick path]

so i think i'm getting the baisc rotation but what do i do if the tank pulls like 20 mobs, do i try and get dots on everything through indiscrete carnage, like 7 garrotes and 7 ruptures, do i still do an ambush at anypointn, i can't seem to find a guid ethat explains whawt to do in the big pulls?

[fathom flax]

`does he mean cloak and feint?

for soaking mythic pylons

[warm vortex]

Love you

[sage wagon]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[runic basin]

which talents you play in Priory?

[marsh fjord]

The same in any other dungeon?

[warm vortex]

Love getting kicekd from a 10 because my champion offhand doesn't have an enchant

[winter crystal]

!shiv

[prisma monolith]

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[marsh fjord]

Time to enchant it

[warm vortex]

Exactly what im doing :D

[daring jewel]

Do I ever FoK during IC window? or just build with garr?

[warm vortex]

If all the targets have a garrote

you FoK

[mortal spoke]

im very early

[normal mist]

Hehehe

[digital pollen]

didnt watch the video yet but: scent of blood also does not always work btw. you can have 3 ruptures up and its only counting 1 rupture. if you redot the same targets it sometimes starts working correctly (or not)

[balmy condor]

I've never seen that happen

there's a bug with deathmark specifically and scent of blood

but that's not really something you encounter most of the time in aoe

[digital pollen]

i think we logged some of the runs where it happened, ill see if i can find it

well i think i found the log but i have no idea how to check if i am delusional or not cause i cant read logs

[red schooner]

New video for the pookies

Lets go

[dapper halo]

oh the bugs are so bad

so were like,missing alot of our aoe damage

[wooden perch]

with bleed build in m+ do we hold 2 charges of shiv for DM

or is 1 enough

since its longer now

[dapper halo]

oh, i wasnt even using momentum of despair, kekw

[balmy condor]

send it my way

[magic nebula]

!rotation

[balmy condor]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[hazy horizon]

no way assa is bug

[balmy condor]

!warn @sly spoke be mad at the issue, insulting the people isn't productive

[hearty reef]

Dm dropping a stack of scent when it expires?

[balmy condor]

yah

[hearty reef]

Thats consistent.

[balmy condor]

never said it wasn't

[hearty reef]

Dont make me quote 😭 😭

It doesnt matter

[balmy condor]

Yes, that’s what I said

[hearty reef]

I also thought that was minor and hence why you didnt include it in the pin

[balmy condor]

Yeh

[hearty reef]

But its annoying idk

[balmy condor]

You’d need to have your deathmark target live for that long to begin with and then also not be in big enough aoe to have more ruptures out

Which like

Okay I guess

Hard to quantify the insane loss of 1 stack of scent on the one pull every third dungeon lmao

On push keys you might see it more I guess but running like 30+ week 1 10’s for gear I didn’t see it once

[river acorn]

We don't use CT on ST anymore do we?

[balmy condor]

It is what it is

[balmy condor]

On a bleed build yes

[hearty reef]

Dm is 16s, your big target + every boss lives that

[river acorn]

ah alright thanks a lot man ❤️

[balmy condor]

Yeh I guess bosses

But big targets on 10-11’s don’t live that a lot of the time

Would have to be mini bosses or some shit

[topaz cedar]

in M+ with extremely large pulls, say 20 targets. i know we can send a few extra ruptures in IC but is there a point where caustic just comes out on top? because some mobs have lower health and just die. like first pull in eco dome/arakara... feels like those extra ruptures get wasted but if i dont spam rupture i end up have not enough scent of blood cuz obviously the RNG is that the rupture goes onto all the mites all the mites/little spiders that die asap.

[buoyant herald]

Yo I was wondering why my weakaura was telling me I had no stacks sometimes, great to know it’s real and just another bug for the list

Feels like it’s only happened recently though

[hearty reef]

At least for all s2 it was in

[distant egret]

Is it normal in keys (10-12) when playing with bleed build, my overall dmg at the end of the key is very close to the other dps. However, my ST on bosses is almost half of theirs. Probably me doing sth wrong....but just checking

[wicked carbon]

Are there estimations on how much DPS the Caustic Spatter bug makes us lose ?

[burnt star]

No.. bleed is bad s.t

Thats why ur tank need to bring some add for u to funnel. That will double your dps

[distant egret]

I see, thanks mate

[minor coyote]

Im at work thinking about my talents and rotation

Im officially addicted

[rare horizon]

shadowstep can be used to skip plexus wall?

[hardy crypt]

I'm pretty sure it happens to me, too

not sure if it's an issue with smart targeting on ic rupture or scent of blood itself but mainly when there's not that many targets, like 3-5

on the weakaura I see "8' or "4" as if the bleed was only on 2 or 1 out of the 3 targets, for example

and some of these cases it was on me, for example the target was too far to get ic ruptured

but some of these cases I tab over and the target is ruptured

[scarlet orbit]

Yes you just need to be carefull if you skip the ones while the aktive phase which direction the boss is facing.

[hardy crypt]

and what's weird is when I rupture it again, sometimes it fixes it and sometimes it doesn't

[brave stump]

1:30 h run

for this

[hardy crypt]

so if I see that all 5 targets have rupture up but scent of blood only shows 16, I like to rerupture to see if it updates

[minor coyote]

When do myth items drop?

What m+

[hardy crypt]

but sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't

[brave stump]

its hardmode tazavesh without dying

[minor coyote]

Can u get.myth any other way besides raid?

[spice surge]

Weekly vault

[minor coyote]

And in dungeons no?

[spice surge]

Weekly vault from doing 10s and higher

But dropping from dungeons no

[hardy crypt]

the max you can drop from dungeons is hero 3/6

[minor coyote]

Got it,thanks

[hardy crypt]

if it helps I don't think I've ever seen it happen on super large target counts

[oblique slate]

Is this a full on bis for us as it is for other classes?

[normal mist]

yes

big good

[oblique slate]

weird, most belts outsim it

[normal mist]

you change it for a myth track belt basically

[oblique slate]

are sims just being clunky?

[normal mist]

i mean

[drifting cloud]

use the corect power

[normal mist]

you have lightning rod

[oblique slate]

yeah I'm using it on dslice

[normal mist]

lightning rod bad

and takes you out of stealth

use either critical chain or electric current

[oblique slate]

I see

which ones are best for ST and M+?

[normal mist]

yes

depends

usually critical chain for ST fatebound

mastery for deathstalker

but you can sim iut

[oblique slate]

I see

tyty

[sharp junco]

I see some guides putting crit and mastery equally and some putting mastery way higher. What we go for?

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Signet of the Priory will require you have Mastery as your highest RATING (the actual number, not the %). Having Crit and Mastery close to one another will cause procs from Flask or Seaforium Pacemaker to cause your Signet to give you Crit. This is generally worse and will cause Signet to sim poorly.
• Compared to each other, Deathstalker wants more Mastery/Haste than Fatebound, and Fatebound wants more Crit than Deathstalker
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[subtle tundra]

buff assa

[marble hemlock]

buff ass

[dense cedar]

assassination should do infinite dps

[ancient pasture]

I couldnt find any information about this, but is deathstalker stronger than fatebound with the new bugs, or is fatebound still stronger

[dense cedar]

in raid?

[ancient pasture]

M+, sorry

[dense cedar]

Deathstalker should still be better

FB sucks in mass aoe

[ancient pasture]

Aight

[analog field]

guys anyone who plays cleave in streets? i think i am doing too little dmg, and that with bleed i would be higher

like i did 4m in an 11 maybe things still melt in an 11 so not sure but i thought i would be pumping in few targets scenarios

[midnight atlas]

well. spec is also bugged af

but your best dps is 5+ targets

[mighty whale]

Ive got mutilate and ambush not switching wtf is going on

[crisp venture]

this was my 12 https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/89gj6XkQyNx7CZHR?fight=2&type=summary

[analog field]

with cleave is 5+ ? i thought cleave would win on 2-4 targets

[crisp venture]

bleed build

[analog field]

yeah i am playing cleave in streets as i saw some ppl do

[crisp venture]

idk from experience bleed is still nice

maybe in higher keys ull need to switch to minmax

[analog field]

whispyr was playing cleave so i followed

especially if tank doesn't seem like a guy who will bring adds on bosses

[gritty laurel]

generally a bad idea to copy top players' builds if you don't understand exactly why they're running that build at that time

could be that he was just testing something, could be that his group needed more boss damage than bleed could provide for that key

[analog field]

i asked whispyr here and he answered, i mean streets is a sub key which means cleave should be better

[gritty laurel]

fair enough

[oblique slate]

Are we using all color gems with Blasphemite?

[normal mist]

if you want to

i am... using the speed meta gem LOL

[oblique slate]

thats based

[normal mist]

i like to go fast

and i don't do content where dps matters

[wild pine]

!chain

!chainpull

[prisma monolith]

Explanation of why stealth benefits aren't as important as you might think:

• For starters, "Chain pulls" are NOT when the tank pulls a new pack with 1% hp remaining on the previous mobs. That is called "Bad Tanking", and it sucks for everyone in your party.
• Correct Chain pulls usually happen while the previous pack is still alive and not dangerous. This increases uptime on more targets, which is the biggest increase in DPS for the entire party. This is also the biggest reason why you see high key level players doing so much damage.
• Garrote is roughly 7-9% of people's damage in a key, most of which is already empowered/cleaved
• Most energy spreading will come from Rupture to maintain scent of blood, not garrote
• Without a Trace (+1 vanish charge) only grants roughly 2 additional casts across a whole dungeon, but does allow for holding vanish for large chain pulls which improves the quality of each vanish
• You can argue that it "feels bad", but numerically there is very little ground to stand on, the dps simply isn't there.

[marsh fjord]

Dont tell me you were playing fatebound in m+?

[peak helm]

Anyone know of a site that will auto analyze your logs? Like it’ll go through your casts and all the data and be like “you cast mutilate when you were at max CP here” or “you didn’t vanish during your opener to get the guaranteed side coins”

Like AI should be able to do that pretty easily as long as it has all of the data on rotation that gets used for sims?

[marsh fjord]

yeah its called wow anaylizer

or however you type it

[peak helm]

Rip

[shell plaza]

what makes sub better on last 2 raid bosses?

[ancient pasture]

no i was asking if it was better with how bugged deathstalkerw was

[normal mist]

it isnt

[analog field]

ads

[ancient pasture]

Should we play sub atm, or is assa still stronger?

[normal mist]

you play whatever you like

[ancient pasture]

Ofc, im talking strength wise

[normal mist]

Does it matter for the content you do?

[ancient pasture]

Probably not, but if i could run sub and do 5% more dmg than i could as assa, its still better

[novel star]

cd timings for adds mostly

and dmg amps

fatebound has 1:30s but the cds are a lot slower to ramp and the aoe is fatebound aoe instead of bursting sub aoe

[analog field]

5% dmg is nothing, you will get more b playing what you like and are familiar with

[shell plaza]

thx a lot 🥂

[novel star]

so youre just like, doing less and taking longer to do it (likely too long for half of your damage to fit in while the adds are still alive on salhadaar and definitely too long for half of it to come out at all on the dimensius amp)

but realistically

by the time anyone typing in here gets there

it wont fucking matter

play the spec you think is fun

[humble verge]

we love helping the community (i just want my crit/haste ring, kms)

[shell plaza]

ye, ill be there in atleast 3-4 months so..

xdd

[normal mist]

wait aren't we also talking about Heroic? :/

smh

[novel star]

i would be surprised

but shit maybe

[normal mist]

leaving me out like that

[novel star]

on heroic your spec choice already doesnt matter starting from week 1

so

i just forgot that could be part of the equation here

[normal mist]

Heroic raiders getting discriminated against like they don't matter

[novel star]

True

[normal mist]

HEROIC RAIDER LIVES MATTER

[thorny kraken]

just watched Whispyr's video, that explains a lot lol

[humble verge]

false

youre just a figment of my imagination

you dont even live past 710 ilvl

[normal mist]

FALSE

i do m10s!

[midnight atlas]

I do same damage as i did last week after all that gear upgrades. I was wondering wtf is going on

[humble verge]

the only reason why youre past 710

is cause youre CHEATING

doing +10s

you will never be a real raider

[normal mist]

xD

[red schooner]

IF THATS TRUE THEN WHY DONT THEY AVOID SWIRLIES

[magic fossil]

someone can give me a tldr on netherprism trinket?

how many stacks

etc etc

if ofc someone know by heart

[pliant remnant]

9

or 12

or 18

Depends on context

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[royal lantern]

wdym stacks

you macro it with main cds

you dont look at stacks, you cant influence them anyway lol

[rotund idol]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[cloud nacelle]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[wicked carbon]

If I'm not planning to play the whole season, should I still craft bracers or go for embelished offhand ?

I'll stop at like 710-715 ilvl and am unlikely to have a myth wepon

[marsh fjord]

Why would not playing the whole season make that decision any different?

[wicked carbon]

cause I'll stop at like 710-715 ilvl and am unlikely to have a myth wepon

Are the wrists a bigger upgrade short term ?

[spice surge]

Your first craft should be a mainhand weapon

[pure moth]

Either way youre crafting weapon/bracers 2 embellishments

[wicked carbon]

I already have it

[marsh fjord]

I mean if you dont want the embellishment combo's you could craft 2 daggers.

hes just wondering about bracers

because he is stopping soon

[spice surge]

Well offhand dagger is the least impactful slot

Bracers give more stats

But you should sim it

[wicked carbon]

droptimizer says the embelished one is a 2% upgrade

[spice surge]

What

[spice surge]

Oh its probably simming stiletto and not counting the 2 embellishments rule

Sim topgear instead

[wicked carbon]

But I'll have just those 2

I don't have the other one yet so won't have a 3rd

I'll try with topgear ye

[spice surge]

I mean the embellishments are the same regardless

But bracers have more stats

so

[wicked carbon]

They aren't

This one is a different one

[spice surge]

Yes its horrid

[wicked carbon]

It sims high tho

simbait ?

[normal mist]

its shit

because it uses a emb slot

double stat // ascension + writhin is better

[wicked carbon]

aight

[spice surge]

If you want a damage proc youre better of using focusing lens

It does more damage, to not a random target and doesnt do damage to you

[distant plinth]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[humble verge]

lads

do i spend the next 3 hours trying to get db crit/haste ring

or do i learn some sub for forgeweaver

🤨

[mild pine]

when bugs are appeared? this week??

[humble verge]

whar

[spice surge]

Almost all of them are have been in since release

The caustic not working on singular is from this week though

[mild pine]

thank you

[spice surge]

(release being tww release, not the start of the season)

[noble fractal]

Any video that explains the bug (spatter bug) ? please help 😄

[bitter solar]

in the pins

[noble fractal]

thanks alot @bitter solar

[mild tiger]

how hard are the bugs tho? would you advise against playing assa today for my raid?

[storm forum]

lost 10-15% in AoE and funnel is gutted. so probably play something else for the add fights. we're still fine for ST (some of the ST fatebound bugs are beneficial)

[golden loom]

surely fixed next week

[winged sun]

is the aoe bug

15%?

or are ppl gaslighting

[golden loom]

think the raid aoe is hit worse than m+ aoe

[storm forum]

it's -10% from the caustic and funnel bugs/bugfixes, and -4% from the tier set breaking

[golden loom]

can just run follow the blood in m+ and bleeds etc are a big part of your singular focus

while raid is just spatter and that not funneling is big sad

[winged sun]

no idea whats up but

my bleeds are doing less dmg

[golden loom]

M+ also gets to take advantage of 2% sanguine bug

[winged sun]

than 2-3 weeks ago

1-2 weeks ago*

[storm forum]

isnt that you losing the old tierset?

[winged sun]

no

[golden loom]

think mr ross had 4 piece insta

[winged sun]

this is 10 days ago

or something

and now

[golden loom]

but yeah atleast m+ has sanguine blades double dipping the aura buffs

[winged sun]

those ruptures

dont do that much

at all

11m overall in low ilvl

and i cant even do that now

well maybe i can with a premade

and do way higher

but

its less than before

[storm forum]

idk boss

i think blizzard hates us

im a priest player now

[golden loom]

I have faith that it will be fixed soon 🙂

[winged sun]

sin unplayable atm

no cappy

[spice surge]

But its 30% better than any other spec in the game?

Ive been told

[thick juniper]

in m+ is it good practice to spread garrote/rupte on all targets?

on opener

[tight ravine]

isn't there a talent that does it so you can still funnel on one target

[west crown]

Spread to things that will live

But if I have deathmark Im usually just doing 2 gar 2 rup and going into cds

[thick juniper]

interesting

ok, ty!

[weary spear]

With bleed you wanna garrote more

[tight ravine]

if you only have 2 set and want to do good enough aoe dps, which spec would be most consistent? I can get 1600 to get a third cata charge but no luck on the 4th set which I understand is a big diff for something like sub

[weary spear]

A 7 CP rupture to 3 new targets that will live for a bit is never a bad thing tbh

Death mark shouldn’t change your aoe priorities

[west crown]

I want to bleed more but I havent been pushing past 10s yet because Im still farming gear so shit falls over if I dont send cds earlier

If I'm in a 12+ for sure I'm probably spreading bleeds until my stealth benefits run out

[weary spear]

Even in low keys it doesn’t hurt to spread more

Spread big bleeds press shiv and they go boom at 35% health

Caustic good too tho doesn’t matter in low keys

[west crown]

Demisemaxxing is dead. Hit envenom

[weary spear]

Why’s it dead did I miss something

[west crown]

No lol, but sniping smallies was never useful

[weary spear]

It snipes more than smallies lol

If you’re playing below 10 everything blows up

[next compass]

Anyone here uses whispyr's plater profile? How can i turn off personal resource bar forever? It appears after every loading screen

[vestal granite]

What do yall play in M+? Bleed feels pretty good but I find myself Caustic Splatter abusing more often than not. Considering maybe going some hybrid variant

[main bridge]

you can play whatever you like but bleed is the best

[reef aspen]

Guys what are the benefits of deathmark on big packs cause I see no other than a little bit more of caustic spatter dmg...

[main bridge]

read the tooltip. that's the benefit

[royal lantern]

you kill an enemy faster?

[reef aspen]

I thought it would have more aoe impact for the only rogue cd

[fallen arch]

Wdym

[royal lantern]

i mean, assa has really good consistent aoe dmg allready

[fallen arch]

Only rogue cd?

[royal lantern]

giving it also a burst aoe cd would be kinda dumb

[main bridge]

it's actually good that it's a ST focused spell because we already do tons of AOE

ST is the weakest part of assassination

[fallen arch]

Ye ST u feel like a wet noodle in bleed lol

[reef aspen]

I thought I was missing some secret aoe interaction but 1 extra rupture and garrote is all it does

[river wraith]

Is assa dmg bugged I did insane gear upgrades yet same overall ,something is off

[fallen arch]

No it’s also extra spatter damage

[spice surge]

Doubles poisons too, which means you spatter more

[reef aspen]

Ye that too

[spice surge]

But yes deathmark is mostly a cooldown for one target

[fallen arch]

And it gives you an ability to clap a big mob in a pack

Which is really valuable

[main bridge]

i don't think overall is a good metric for knowing if something is bugged, but there are lots of bugs in the pins too

[stable apex]

!cb

[prisma monolith]

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[fallen arch]

To maoe evrything go faster

[stable apex]

!cbbug

[gilded stump]

Good afternoon, quick question. What's the best build for tazavesh hardmode?

[royal lantern]

overall is a ussules metric for literally everything

[gilded stump]

Should I just run the Assa raid build?

[main bridge]

yeah it's going to vary every run so it's not particularly useful

[royal lantern]

cant you swap talents

[spice surge]

You can indeed

[gilded stump]

Ah so you can swap before any boss?

Interesting

[spice surge]

Its not m+

So you can swap at any time

[gilded stump]

Nice

So what's considered overall best build for this dungeon?

Is there a guide anywhere that suggests best talent choices for each boss?

[dense cedar]

what dungeon r we talking about

[gilded stump]

The mega dungeon

Tazavesh hard mode

Is there a boss by boss best talent guide?

[dense cedar]

fatebound raid build fine for all bosses afaik

[royal lantern]

i mean, just go aoe for trash and swap to ST raid build for bosses?

what else would you do

[west crown]

There isn't a guide for hardmode. But if you all are just ddoing bosses and waiting for lust just go raid build

[gilded stump]

Gotcha

Ty

[velvet ridge]

Tbh I like aoe build for song boss, the adds are more of a threat

[blissful pumice]

!macro

[prisma monolith]

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[pulsar plank]

is it a known bug where caustic spatter does not apply? Or is my wa shit?

[blissful pumice]

does somone have a Focus shadowstep Kick macro that works?

[dense cedar]

do you have example

[pulsar plank]

sometimes when I do mutilate/ambush it does not apply

[dense cedar]

is rupture on the target

[pulsar plank]

whilst having deadly poison ofc

and rupture

[dense cedar]

i've never experienced it but it may be a thing

[spice surge]

Probably just didnt have deadly up on the mob

[viscid spear]

!up

[spice surge]

Caustic works fine

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1403486905915408524/Dark_Mode.jpg

[pulsar plank]

Ahh I see I didnt know the poison was supposed to be on the target

[warm vortex]

!bug

[prisma monolith]

Vanish->Ambush during cooldowns with Darkest Night up has two main benefits:

• Getting more mark uptime by reapplying when it's down
• Consuming Darkest Night then puts you from 3 stacks of the mark down to 2 since the mark is already applied

As of September 13th with the Echoing Reprimand Fix, that second part is broken. Blizzard inadvertantly added a bug where you cannot consume mark stacks while darkest night is active. This will hopefully get resolved quickly as it is quite impactful. Until that time, you might want to consider taking improved garrote in your single target build (instead of 1 point of vicious venoms, or instead of improved poison). You do not have to do this, and if you would like to continue to play without improved garrote, you would simply hold onto your vanish in case you drop the mark. Once the bug is fixed you would go back to vanish->ambush.

[warm vortex]

That's not what i expected

Is there a bug list

!buglist

[dense cedar]

[warm vortex]

Wathing the new whisp vid and wanted to see if there was any more

[marsh fjord]

You know the funny thing. doesnt matter how much we communicate to the devs those bugs

[trail vortex]

broi im watchign that rn

[pulsar plank]

Well 99% of the time this doesnt matter I thought it should just be on my mh

[marsh fjord]

they just dont care enough to fix them

[trail vortex]

I felt like my dmg was lower this week than last week

[dense cedar]

pretty sure the tooltip mentions needing the poison on target

[trail vortex]

turns out we have like 17 bugs

[dense cedar]

tho i think it says "lethal"?

but doesn't count wound

[trail vortex]

bro literally dissected the bugs n they r porbably not going to do shti about them

[marsh fjord]

They rather make housing

[marsh fjord]

Then have an functional game

[dense cedar]

[trail vortex]

housing is cool

but yeah

real

[marsh fjord]

I think at this point

it's pretty illigal to pay a sub for this game

[dense cedar]

it is a list of bugs that affects virtually nobody

since we a dead class

[marsh fjord]

true

[dense cedar]

like even tho the singular focus thing fucks our damage up

[trail vortex]

this is dumb asf

[dense cedar]

probably not even gonna cause depleted unless ur in higher keys

[royal lantern]

mate, sorry but

do you imply that the guys responsible for desinging housing stuff are the people that work on game stability, QA and making sure stuff works in general?

[dense cedar]

even smaller % of players

[royal lantern]

cus holy shit thats cooked

like

REALLY fucking cooked

[marsh fjord]

No that's what im saying.

not*

[dense cedar]

Tyran i think it was just joke

[trail vortex]

I hope it gets fixed by tuesday cus I do not feel like getting another character to 704

[dense cedar]

completely unrelated, sub feels quite nice in keys since I last played it

[marsh fjord]

My point with the housing that they litteraly have 100 people working on housing. when they can allocate those 100 of people to actually make the game playable and not have 2000 bugs

[trail vortex]

I might play sub for the rest of this weekk

[dense cedar]

well i mean

[royal lantern]

those people have nothing to do with fixing bugs

bro

[dense cedar]

those people would ahve no clue what they're doing

[marsh fjord]

Oh those people can def be allocated to fixing bugs bro

[royal lantern]

thats like saying "this resturant is to slow with the orders, put some of the service guys into the kitchen so its faster"

[marsh fjord]

It's litteraly part of your education to be a developer

[dense cedar]

guys who does 3D meshing probably don't know what a caustic spatter is

[wide sleet]

is assa cooked. is it sub time?

[trail vortex]

might just be

I have no clue how to play sub

[marsh fjord]

I understood that you get allocated to certain things and you have no idea of bugs and so on. but tell me why our bugs keep existing for the entire of fucking tww?

[dense cedar]

the 4p bug is legit just anti-fun for the spec

[royal lantern]

capital G Gamers having no idea about development (or just, work places in general) and then dont belive you saying things like that is just so typical for them lol

[dense cedar]

i can handle the damage ones cos w/e

im not that hardcore

but the 4p stuff is just shitty

[trail vortex]

bro, going up 10ilvls and doing less dmg than last week

is depressing

[marsh fjord]

bro i dont even care what the bug is. do you know how demotivating it is to play a game that just get ridiculed by bugs.

[royal lantern]

so you have no clue about sub, but want to play a spec that is very highly punishing for doing smaller mistakes because you think its a positive for you?

[trail vortex]

yeah

Im good at the game

[royal lantern]

if you think you can just spec sub and do big numbers now

lol

[trail vortex]

lol?

[dense cedar]

ye but like, i've been doing guild keys with the other busted specs, should be fine if i wanna assa, tho sub has been fun

[torn trail]

Oh, i thought it was my hands growing from diff place, but it seems like there is a different problem

[royal lantern]

nobody is more confident in their skill then class discord users with a leaf + the new member tag

[dense cedar]

im the best sub rogue in my room

[warm vortex]

I mean

[marsh fjord]

just because they new to discord doesnt mean they shit at the game bro

[warm vortex]

Im right here dude

[dense cedar]

gtfo

[trail vortex]

I only played rogue in pvp before

[warm vortex]

Okay :(

[dense cedar]

[marsh fjord]

who knows he might go usb

sub

[warm vortex]

Tbh, i'd be sad about these rogue bugs

[marsh fjord]

and does the most insane damage.

[warm vortex]

but im having curry tonight

and life is good

[trail vortex]

fire

thai or japanese

plz dont say indian

[warm vortex]

i have some bad news for you

[dense cedar]

vendeten jaded on bugs due to pet AI, likely

[warm vortex]

Oh my god you wont belive

[royal lantern]

has nothing to do with being shit

its about thinking that you can jump around 24/7 and thinking you get big resullsts immediately lmao

[warm vortex]

Thats not the worse one

the worse one is how my only defensive in pack leader makes me take more damage

[dense cedar]

ur rat just deciding to fly away during Dawnbreaker or something

[warm vortex]

I still think

[dense cedar]

taking its beast cleave with it

[warm vortex]

at least

[royal lantern]

espacially when its about sub, a spec that needs kinda higher knowledge about he fights and content you do

[trail vortex]

nah Ill just spam 10s for unsies until I get the hang of sub

funsies*

[warm vortex]

idk if they fixed it, but people found that shell cover made you take more damage instead of less

[dense cedar]

do u not have survival of the fit or w.e

[warm vortex]

This made (or makes, idk if they still haven't fixed it) take 35% more damage instead

[dense cedar]

that's awesome

[warm vortex]

Saw someone post that they were the only one to die in the dimensius planet bomb because of it

[royal lantern]

kinda based

[warm vortex]

Also yea

i had a run last night where i pressed co-ordinated, charged to them, and my pet was insta stuck

so during my fucking CD i had to dismiss my pet for like 4 seconds

and mid dismiss the beams start so i have to stop dismissing

so for my entire co-ordinated was wasted

[pulsar gulch]

on multitarget fights like soul hunters in manaforge should you be target switching a lot to get bonuses on splatter cleave or should you tend to pick one target and stick to it (assuming youre running deathstalkers mark)

[warm vortex]

because of a bug

[warm vortex]

Stick to it

[dense cedar]

yawnbreaker strikes again

[warm vortex]

Would be annoying to consume mark otherwise

[warm vortex]

Yep

[trail vortex]

cordinated on operation mechagon last boss

[warm vortex]

I still have the crashin' thrashin' toy macro on my bar

[dense cedar]

fun of sub rogue in keys, is you have pulls where u look like ur details bugged out

[warm vortex]

indeed

insta death

i mean

[trail vortex]

u had to be close to him

to use it

[warm vortex]

not as good as xuen killing himself by jumping into the center on gally

[trail vortex]

or backpedal as u use it

[dense cedar]

mechagon the worst mega dungeon

[warm vortex]

because he feels like it

[dense cedar]

hate the place

[warm vortex]

Return to khara is right htere dude

JkJK

[dense cedar]

first run of return to khara was like

a magical experience

never recaptured

[trail vortex]

well

this whole thing blows

[dense cedar]

taza is quite fun tho

[spice surge]

Junkyward was alright, just too much shit inside

[trail vortex]

will be hitting the trainign dummies on sub tomorrow I guess

[warm vortex]

Tbh, DoTI was worse imo

[main bridge]

the original junkyard with the shock bots owned. i loved the mini game of never dying

[trail vortex]

gotta fix all my stats now

amazing

[dense cedar]

tuesday we somehow get all bugfixes

[warm vortex]

If we do i'll

Idk be happy

[dense cedar]

I'll actually preorder midnight

[warm vortex]

nono

whats gonna happen

is the monkey paw will fold

and those bugs will be fixed, but worse wil arise

Enven can't get TTK anymore, or something

[dense cedar]

OH i got a good one

[warm vortex]

only 1 poison ramps KB

some shit like that

[dense cedar]

what if uh

[warm vortex]

yes

[dense cedar]

thistle tea pops

and it lowers ur max energy

till relog

so we can't run it anymore

[split veldt]

!macros

[warm vortex]

What if thistle tea burns your rongue cause it's to hot
so whenever you drink it you get disorentated for like 2 seconds

!shiv

[dense cedar]

!cb

[prisma monolith]

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[dense cedar]

LMAO

[warm vortex]

Haha beat you to it X)

[dense cedar]

took u too long to post it

obvs doctored

[warm vortex]

243.51.73.163

[red schooner]

sorry bud

Agreeing with a hunter main feels wrong

[dense cedar]

I blame the server location

[red schooner]

I need to cleanse myself

[dense cedar]

this is just misogyny

[rancid summit]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[hollow fulcrum]

what ilvl gear does the karesh campaign give

[wicked carbon]

642

[young helm]

is there any stat weight for the raid build?

[dense cedar]

don't think about it like that

dw about stat weights

[harsh anchor]

who got that yoinky sploinky

[dense cedar]

just equip upgrades

[wide quail]

does the spec have aoe stun?

[spice surge]

no

[main bridge]

we have AOE blind though

[dense cedar]

kidney goated for ara-kara tho

[wide quail]

ok ok.. is that work as cc ?

[dense cedar]

will interrupt things

[frozen glacier]

a pookie video about bugs and a crashout

[main bridge]

yes. incapacitate is a type of CC

[dense cedar]

can't be used on floodgate bots tho

[wicked carbon]

Robots can't be blinded but they can bleed smh

[wide quail]

I played my first m+.. I am wondering if my damage breakdown is considered correct?

[shy axle]

where would you use prism differently to the 3min vasnish usage right now in raid?

[dense cedar]

i'd say caustic is low but if this was a +2

its probably why

[fiery basin]

Hey stabers, question...big pulls in M+ it feels like my DM jumps to a random target often times a mob that I'm not focusing. its frustrating as i have to either tab or right click to make sure im hitting the right mob, am i missing something, maybe a setting?

[main bridge]

DM does not jump anywhere

you can use one of these plater profiles to make the DM target more obvious though

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[dense cedar]

are you slamming a max cp envenom on your DM target as they're about to die?

[warm vortex]

Btw with how buggy DS is, is fatebound spatter the play for cleave fights or is it still ds

[dense cedar]

that's it probably just auto-targeting

[fiery basin]

yes i do slam the max CP to refresh then ill find that its not on a mob i intended

[dense cedar]

unsure tbh

since its still just sucks once there's 3 targets

[wide quail]

if you replied to me, yes it was +2 key.. i just don't know how to spread bleed properly

[dense cedar]

disabling all its strength

[dense cedar]

a log is better for checking gameplay, but a +2 is jsut gonna be a bit harder to judge just due to everything dying in 20 seconds

[shy axle]

how do you play with ds 4 piece if you got dn coming up and shiv off cd? do you shiv for dn or after to secure the -1 mark stack? i guess the former and fuck that -1?

[desert crest]

When do we think they will fix the assa bugs?

[normal mist]

we dont think

we dont know

we just pray

[desert crest]

Trust me i have been praying

But it is kinda appalling so surely they fix fast right?

[young helm]

and still i have like 12k haste , with a hero neck that gives me almost 6-7k haste , maybe should i replace it with a s2 crafted neck ?

[fluid hull]

Is there a place i can find WA for each rogue spec?

[normal mist]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[grave osprey]

Is there a list of current bugs somewhere?

[desert crest]

check pins

[normal mist]

you can check whispyr's latest video

[desert crest]

There also is a github thing

[grave osprey]

!bugs

[prisma monolith]

Vanish->Ambush during cooldowns with Darkest Night up has two main benefits:

• Getting more mark uptime by reapplying when it's down
• Consuming Darkest Night then puts you from 3 stacks of the mark down to 2 since the mark is already applied

As of September 13th with the Echoing Reprimand Fix, that second part is broken. Blizzard inadvertantly added a bug where you cannot consume mark stacks while darkest night is active. This will hopefully get resolved quickly as it is quite impactful. Until that time, you might want to consider taking improved garrote in your single target build (instead of 1 point of vicious venoms, or instead of improved poison). You do not have to do this, and if you would like to continue to play without improved garrote, you would simply hold onto your vanish in case you drop the mark. Once the bug is fixed you would go back to vanish->ambush.

[grave osprey]

Ah he removed it 🤣

[lyric vale]

Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
witch one is better ?

[normal mist]

personal preference

[dense cedar]

you can just sim to see

[young helm]

too much combinations 😄

[normal mist]

you can just not care about it

and pump either way

[desert crest]

Reduce the number of combination then?

[half dawn]

whispyr's plater is nice

[desert crest]

Try ur best to only remove combinations that will sim worse

[half dawn]

but it needed some tweaks to make it my style

does anyone know how to tweak plater plate size for specific mobs

for example at the start of floodgate I want to make contractor and soldier nameplates super small since they are shiter mobs

same with mites in Eco dome

[warm vortex]

Royal you should make a plater

I'd love to see it

[normal mist]

I'm a follower, not a leader

[warm vortex]

True

btw does anyone have a link to the post where they said caustic was hotffixed

[winged sun]

lock down assa discord till they fix our bugs

ret edition

[warm vortex]

I mean

that woudl just remove assa from the game no?

Because they wont fix it

they would just impuslivly nerf warrior or whatever they usually do

[lunar solstice]

!macro

[prisma monolith]

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[radiant aspen]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[feral mason]

Would it be a strat to put down a bunch of dummies on tazavesh hardmode bosses for nutty funnel

[spice surge]

Yes

[feral mason]

aight

[warm vortex]

Wait what

[silk sundial]

Saw people put down dummies for dragon boss

[warm vortex]

Holy fuck he is cooking

[feral mason]

Was wondering if that would maybe reset but guess they forgot

saw the stupid pre boss sub setups

[warm vortex]

If only singular focus worked properly

I mean it's still big

[feral mason]

20% mainstat and infinite energy still cranky

[warm vortex]

Im stupid

i somehow forgot about about that

[feral mason]

although

[silk sundial]

Screen cap from video

[feral mason]

Not sure how much that makes up for lost damage from talents

[thorn spruce]

!macro

[prisma monolith]

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[midnight mist]

Why do you not just go sub cuh

[feral mason]

No prism

[warm vortex]

@midnight mist Noob

[midnight mist]

I don't think that matters I'm ngl

The amount of shit sub pre stack

Is kinda insane

[feral mason]

@midnight mist let me borrow prism for today ty

[spice spire]

Timmy’s no bottom

[warm vortex]

Just play whatever you like, don't listen to the french bear

[spice spire]

Nvm

[warm vortex]

See Quake gets it

Oh okay

[feral mason]

I mean

[midnight mist]

You can still pre stack full supercharger, full shht, 3 ub one coup

[feral mason]

Look at it this way

[midnight mist]

And you have the first dance

[feral mason]

My group does no damage

[midnight mist]

And you also proc pacemaker on pull

[warm vortex]

Zac what's outlaw like atm

[feral mason]

sub burst is cool but what after that

[midnight mist]

Legit like 10/20% worse than s2

Fun to play tho

[feral mason]

No prism so i burst like 25-30% less

[warm vortex]

That's good

[midnight mist]

I don't even mind new ks gameplay wise

[warm vortex]

Yea, it's better right? I mean, not a high bar, but still

[midnight mist]

If only it went on your prio target

[sonic schooner]

What are you doing here zac?

[feral mason]

Stalking me

i got crazy aura he can smell me from the next channel over

[warm vortex]

Poor Zac, man leaves outlaw for one channel and gets harrassed

Please ignore my first message about him in here

[midnight mist]

Ye well it went from the worse spell in the game to the worse spell in the game but better

So

[warm vortex]

I still think they could have just made it act like blade dance

and it would be fine

[drifting cloud]

what are you doing here aswell!

[midnight mist]

Oh they could have done plenty of things differently

[feral mason]

dont get him started

[midnight mist]

They just chose all the wrong decisions

It is what it is

Rogue dev cycle

[warm vortex]

Fair

[midnight mist]

I expect a ks rework soon

Like actually

[feral mason]

I had a genuine assa related question get off my wee wee!

[warm vortex]

Haha yea

Timmy what was it?

Was it just the dummy stacking

[feral mason]

Ye

[warm vortex]

Ah aight

Tbh i aint touching hard mode taz

Can't be arsed tbh

[midnight mist]

Timmy

You know what the issue is

[warm vortex]

And i don't wanna get hours in and have someone die

[midnight mist]

Dummies have 1 h cd

[feral mason]

I had fun last week after we made it abundantly clear that no toxicity would happen

[midnight mist]

So you can't full dummy every boss

[oblique slate]

Zac how hard is it to learn outlaw?

[midnight mist]

Idk

[warm vortex]

Fair

[feral mason]

Everyone in the party has like 10 different toys

[warm vortex]

Tbh, M+ is the most fun when it's with friends for me