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lemme see if i can find one

so fatebound has free combo points for no reason, 8-10% potential tier set bug stuff, truly the coinflip spec
I found a log
This is why Whispyr was talking about crit for FB before, was secretly telling us to abuse this bug
hey guys.. would u switch out a 671 Jastor Diamond with a 691 Radiant Necromancers Band? The Vers/Mastery "BiS" Ring
I'd sim it
so in like pure ST patchwerk, is it worth refreshing existing bleeds (rupture/garrote) before entering cds even if it means refreshing them before the pandemic window?
and if so - is it the result of which of the following:
- we dont want to refresh bleeds while ramping stacks of kb
or 2) the magnitude of our abilities just do more damage with things like shiv, an on-use trinket and pot such that we really only want to press envenom during them.
this question stemmed from this article https://maxroll.gg/wow/class-guides/assassination-rogue-raid-guide#deep-dive-header suggesting its actually good refreshing bleeds pre-pandemic window when entering cds. I do this sometimes in aoe to avoid refreshing rupture during a caustic spatter window, but i hadn't considered it for like raid ST
sorr yfor the build up had to cook it a little
for the KB stacking atleast it doesnt matter
incredible
maxroll's done it again, brilliancy
shiv is for nerds
ya maxroll made me a little sketchy but they do have purfecto as an author
I can add that to my list of things to check shindig
but i know some guides will just put the names of top rogues even if they dont write the guide
that makes it worse btw 
ive had people reach out to me for that
he is not known for his rational ideas
oh lol ok w
smh rotation from maxroll, you should take it from noxxic instead
ive never heard of this website

its good
holy underground assa rogue guides
yeah noxxic was the OG ai slop
you can trust it
noxxic was like primetime AI slop during legion
give me the most underground dark web assa guides NOW
I was gonna link your youtube but that would be rude!
except they had no theorycrafters
and their shit was rubbish
but they both just pumped their pages full of like "BEST MOST OPTIMAL SUPER GIGA"
it me
we should start up a new one
i was the baited noob
tell epople not to use mutilate or something
askmrrobot also shot themselves in the foot when they released a whole article about how class discords are toxic and questions don't get answered
i bet you used pawn as well or something
actually no i just didnt use addons at all

infexious gaming here
It even says that perfecto made it? LOL
ChatGPT
wait did he delete his channel
lmao
seems so
bro he's gone
no
that's rogue history
I can never hear him say "CRAT"
wait I'm actually so sad
had to be placed in "Classified" I suppose

now shindig probably thinks I'm a fucking schizo
thinks?

brother this is common knowledge
yeah was sub'd since bfa for the snapshot tech,no channel in my list
whispyr you're frreaking me out
Once you start uploading rogue yt content, its only a matter of time before you get shut down
jk all good maybe part of it was a bait guide but i am still interested to learn whether or not the pre bleed thign is worth
rogue is not meant to be allowed to be known
so if ever somethign comes up please let me kno!
the ops are on my tail
some of the Ask mr robot blogs are hilarious btw
im gonna miss you in 6 months 
love the duck btw ๐
want guides to offer more choices but when I put 5 m+ builds into my guide they tell me to kms and don't even open the talent page to read the blurbs about the builds
i don't want more choices
did you hear about this new chinese bleed build thats going around
thats how market works ๐
the one without kingsbane?
are you not? ๐
yeah insane tech
this is also insane
because that implies
that 66% of players
don't think their rotation is the problem

My issue is that the swirlies call to me 
what do the other two thirds think is holding them back
idk
Mechanics maybe
gear
"fuck i do my rotation perfectly but the rest of my group is so ass"
do you even know anyone that's answering a survery from askmrrobot?
do you need???
how do 1/3 people say that when they only got 2 people to reply to the survey
1/3 doctors say assassination rogues use agility
I never got a survey wtf
I want to find the 10th dentist that recommends using poisoned knife
is my caustic suppose to be this high lol?
9/10 doctors say to just refresh bleeds during deathmark, the 10th doctor is maxroll
he made the one button rotation

me 20 times and autoattak 2480 times
based
both hands on the keyboard my goat
im kinda done with m+ boys
if you arent moving your camera with the arrow keys what are you doing
raidbots goes euro mode for you, didn't know it worked like that
What do you mean euro mode
, instead of .
@elfin flame I'll sell you forbidden bleed refresh knowledge in exchange for a +11 delve carry I can't get a hold of hopeful
oh ๐

make EU character and i got you for that knowledge
what if autoattak was just a plant from amr
if my guide writer cant do a tier 11 delve I am going straight to maxroll
to destabilize the discord servers
I mean he had the intellect of a plant
so that adds up
is dread pit good today
where's the delve nerds
youre a rogue its fungal folly or dread pit every day depending on story
im missing one karesh rare guys who got the arcane lure
its not that bad but you do have to kill atleast 4 mobs in it
it ok
i do delves for rep
there are worse delves
its the worst dread pit variant by far though
yeah but the worst dread pit variant is still like b tier
I could also do these
right now?
those are both way worse
ill log on
where is the 4th delve
erm
if its underkeep or something then log the fk in
Guys I was blessed, only item I looted last week was mythic belt from first boss, which is dps loss before 2 upgrades
no no, joke, go bed the m+ mines call for you tomorrow
how much stronger is a DM burst Envenom over a regular one?
sir yes sir
link
Dead?
we just ignore them and kill the boss lmfao
i dunno how they are ranked but im sure people on the internet wouldnt make stuff up
WWWWWWWWWWWWWW
would this be accurate for rogues?
hm
okay now just to find out what these things even are
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
probably not
accurate for hold w's
the icons show the regions!
Rough lmao
yeah if you dont get the omega pad on second big add spawn its gg
go parse on mythic instead
oh sinkhole is bountiful
unless you're doing mythic already then just go enxt
I go do that
we killed all 3 sets of adds 
sinkhole pog
I hate sinkhole
:(
sinkhole was already piss easy then they removed the water
9 minutes? 
9 minutes 33 seconds
wait
water removal was the best change of the season
its not bountiful
hell yeah
the water is gone?
KMS
this looks like something my guild would do
yeah both sinkhole and tak-rethan had the water removed
I just want my 15 crests
Can you link log
i wanna see something
sinkhole is the one with the sharks right?
i'll suck your toes
Looking
am i misremembering the delves
removed
holy fuck
ITS SUB
hes a gamer

that's a FAT sectec
the fucking insta sectec
I MISCLICKED OKAY
holy
ah, i jsut remember those summoning themselves from across the world to rip me out of stealth at the worst time
bro for sure shot up on the meters instantly
MY SECTECH KEYBIND IS V
MY FLAG BIND IS SHIFT V
how do you only have 6 deaths in a 9:30 kill
@cunning needle nice item level log tho your guild is holding you back bro
im acutally stupid

dont ask me why i have those binds
Ah yes
Chad on CD user vs virgin wait for all cds to line up
V is for vanish bro
v is for vendetta
The classic Raw Sectech

my B is bound to blind for this reason
I can't speak about binds lest the deadly poison incident happens again
V is for crimson Vial
what the helli
hes way worse this season for me atleast
Bro brann just tanks my entire dungeon for me man
like he juset goes where ever the fuck he pleases
Envenom used to be on shift+e for me, big e for big envenom
my fav brann interaction is when you hit something with Sap, so he decides to shoot it awake again
It makes sense
IT WAS A MISCLICK DONT JUDGE ME
and brann litteraly tanks everything in shit you cant stand in
this is worse then thorgast
i dont judge, im playing assa in raid
and you cant change my mind
torghast felt like it was 50 hours each run

HERES YOUR TAKE OF THE SPOILS!
tbh, delves might actually be worse if brann was perfect
fake
I wish you could kill Brann for 50% more Health and DMG/Heal Done
Everytime i do a delve im crashing out
tome of sacrifice for brann pls
Good for your mental
Nah its worse when you die due to him pulling 4 fucking packs at once AND HE HAS THE GALL TO SAY, 'SURELY YOU CAN DO BETTER THAN THAT'
Found a bit of gold
its the kinda solo content the game needed
yeah true
even people who don't do raid or m+ can have a shitty teammate that makes them mad
DONT STAND THERE
I WOULDN'T BUT I HIT SHADOWDANCE AND YOU RAN TO NARNIA
Those webs will summon nerubians, doooont stand in them, WHILE HE HIMSELF STANDS IN BLACKHOLES ON KYVEZA
being an open world content-only rogue must be the most miserable experience
Guys I need your prayers, I have only one mythic slot in vault, pray for me that its either set piece or smth I can transform, except pants, I have set pants already.
Help a brother out
you can skip a bunch of stuff
btw how did yall like ky'veza?
no u
but can't solo any of the things that a WW or warlock could
The black holes don't summon nerubians
So its fine
open world content as outlaw rogue is the most miserable experience*
it was fun
facts

Good solo boss
imagine resetting content every time you do your rotation
i should rly do ??
amen to that actually
?? whatchumean?
or give me a weapon skin who cares for a fucking void toy man
my rogue already wearing enough purple
did you see the chinese swimsuit transmog? it's hella goated imo
especially the hat
Using vanish and mobs resetting
vanish go brrr
One of the delve bosses reset instantly when I used vanish and I hated life
Because I kept muscle memorying it
brann moment too tbh
he only feigns like half the time
vanish doesn't have to reset mobs in the open world
just hit your next attack in the same gcd
Its a 50/50
I havne't had a mob accidentally reset for years
all things are a 50/50
exactly
Yeah this delve boss reset instantly. Never had an issue with it in the open world.
It was weird
oh idk
I don't seem to suffer the vanish thing like peeps talk about often
maybe it's a shit lag bonus
the ambush thing in delves is just hyper shit though
Does brann play dead same time?
wait these flickergate mobs are ridiculous
???\
do u mean the wastelander guys?
what did they feed these things
they'll fuck you
No clue, I try my best to ignore the little fucker
what does the flickergate do
can I just skip this
u just click it for more rewards
bro, you tricks brann and then he spends 12 minutes just jumping backwards either pulling more shit, or unteathering the adds
Brann as Healer with the Weakaura that shows me the Potion cooldown
was a gamechanger for me

I'm a rogue man I'm not cut out for the delve life
YO dude, when you get those packs stacked
absolutely fuck that life
that is a guaranteed skip
i just burst the main boss as hard as possible
the fact that you can't even sudden demise in delves
leecher is the final boss of that story
is so fucked
had to fight there
Sometimes the flickergate turns into a portal you can go in and then just clear that room to finish the delve
!WA
Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
then sometimes you get to use one of your 36 quartz
Quick tldr on phone: aoe dot 5 with rup, bout the same with garr, Tempest everything, dont use shiv if darkness is up, envenom alot use shiv right after our big cd+didnt just forget the name or nothing) then after its over or was it when the first shiv is over?

I had to read that like 7 times and I still don't think I got it
but you shiv when the first shiv expires
Fr? Haha theyll Patch this with Midnight Trust 
im gonna miss fungal folly in midnight
hit harder
okay ill write that one down
yeah sudden demise doesn't work in delves or any outdoor content because the outdoor content has hidden item level scaling so you don't insta-pushover things in world quests when you get an extra 60 ilvl, and that bricks it
what trinks u got
prism/pace
is this overall or enc
what have u macrod prism to? if anything
bro posts a 10 mil dps details meter where he gapped the other two guys by a canyon's length
and just goes
"how I improve"
holy hell
giga chad
its troll
well there are probably better racials
whispyr ban this guy now
Nerf assa
Troll best choice
nelf besto
Dont post it on boomie dc oho
meanwhile I can't go beyond 7m overalls
smh
and even that only in flood/priory/some halls
I'm 695 S2 4set...
and i command my tank like my pet
i'm 696 S2 2set, i feel you
not gonna get 4 set until like
the week after the next
no cata charges and I have no hopes of getting raid drops
2s is a possibility, just need a hero item to catalyze because I swear I get only neck/rings/gloves/boots
Is there any optimisation for the use of shiv with the new tier? I.e in reference to the part that consumes the deathstalker's mark - or do we just use the same
we saw 2 pieces of zenith in all of normal and heroic
was very cool
i was at least able to snag a pity curio off of dimensius
What was the key lvl?
one zenith this week, yeah
didn't win either of the two curios
12
in ST you wouldn't want to shiv with darkest night up, in aoe it doesn't really matter at all
a lotta raid groups probably happy to have that happen lol
you'd probs rather have mystic or dreadful drop
im sadge

not gonna catalyze a champ item bro
lucky you
scurred
won't get me 4p anyway so no point...
Guys, fast question, ascension vs weapon grip. M+ bleed build. Do i lose st with grip? Do i lose to much overall with ascension? Is it really worth it trying to boost st through ascension and loosing overall? does it really matter at all
no sending catalyst on champ track would be psychotic behavior
ye just waiting for a drop
it's like less than 1% opt I think
so it doesn't actually matter as long as you're using those embel slots
1% overall diff? but is ascension better st and grip aoe?
Craft a sporecloak
you're either picking the 0.8% embellishment or the 0.8% embellishment


god I wish
though ngl
if I get a Priory myth head
I'm not catalyzing it
my crit is in shambles as it is
embellishments overall
have 0 impact
as it stands right they're like on the cusp of not being worth crafting at all
priory is simming worse for me in ST than pvp trinket 7 ilvls lower rip (only 2set)
i got socket coins from first vault. so i wanna get that shit locked in for the season
can toss my diamond inside it and never think again
pvp trinket is kinda giga
with turbo boost confirmed for this season there's like an actual concern if we even use crafted gear
tbh
ye I'd do the same
I have to sim it later
694 ilvl has 15k+ agi on a 1min
Have a champ track lily and that's it
and 2k crit
it's gonna have the same catchup for crafted, won't it?
i think this one is kinda bland tbh
Well idk if I'd go that far
it will indeed, but embellishments don't scale with ilvl
Double coup goes hard
ur being sent to the torment dimension
im already speaking the rogue discord
And 90s deathmark is better than just "you do more damage"
meant visually
Deathstalker tier is just normal you do more damage though
I'm liking the 90s thing, its fun.
yeah that's why I'm thinking really hard about just crafting a neck and swapping the dagger to a lens
it's like 1700 stat loss, p sure good stats on neck will work better and there's a really shit neck pool this season for crit/mastery
It's kinda just aberrus v2 but I like the chest and pants
tbh i don't think i'm gonna be wearing it tho
i like my urple tmog i have rn
aberrus mad stupid looking tho
do hunters ever get anything that looks good
Let me redo- make sure to dot at least 5 targets with rupture and garrote, and make sure to have Tempest on every target. Use envenom as often as you can unless you gotta redot. Use shiv right after big cd and once again shiv is over. Dont use shiv when darkness is active. Correct and easier to understand now? @balmy condor
gotta throw outlaw a bone every so often I guess
quite often tbh
just not the helms
i guess I just don't vibe with any of them
so we should consider siming for pure stat crafts vs forcing embelish slots
is it not better to refresh (even out of pandemic) right before DM?
Are you John maxroll
what does DM mean?
Deathmark
What is this from? Link?
wowhead guide
i am trying to help
u
are the boots with the proc effect bis?
โค๏ธโค๏ธโค๏ธ
yes
I mean "forcing" embellishment slots, offhand dagger and wrists are giga shit slots regardless of anything
so like offhand dagger you probably always embellish at minimum
but the actual embellishment you put on there is whatever
put focusing lens who cares
I can actively feel
all of them do fuckall for damage
Whispyr reaching into my brain
and making me less cringe about stats
But the second I play the game I look at my 33 % haste and get angry
how though
and every single piece of gear is haste heavy? unlucky
this has never been the case before, I'm double checking cause shindig asked me to but I see no reason why it would be true now all of a sudden
I havnt even found an on use trinket yet
go get the pvp one
Yeah, but ill get there
wait, actually super based
it's very good early
Gotta google how to get that
But it's the same with my SP, also only haste, and now haste is not as good anymore
You actively improve me as a person
yeah i think sacbrood is bait unless you're outlaw and need the haste
but yeah the pvp one is very good for its ilvl
sacbrood sims quite well for me atm
I will go have fun doing that while at work tomorrow
not when you got 33% haste
i had one at 691 and it was simming worse than my old pacemaker
it just depends on your stats
for me it sims a little better than pacemaker
maybe I could consider simming it again but changing my weapon enchants again
maybe i should try it again too
691 sacbrood is simming better than pacemaker and I got like 22% haste
Stats are wack
man this guide is rough
I mean also build
like sacbrood is bound to do better in a sim if youre bleed as opposed to fb
only mastery scary ahead
684 pace > 694 sac
st sim?
ye
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/gHAHj82FbKELxXi3SDnhMM emmm... doble active trinket...?
I mean given your only alternative is a mediocre hero track trinket from last season
yes
is assa equal with outlaw with performance?
that kind of makes sense
in raid? no, better apart from maybe 1 fight
in m+? god no, much better
alot of dungeons have pulls with target counts of over 5 lol
we go deathstalker right
in m+ i think..?
and I'd still put sin over it
fb in raid
i got a 701 sacbrood that was like a 0.4% gain over 684 pace for FB STm but was like a 1.3% gain for Deathstalker dslice
in m+ full deathstalker
very funny
in raid 80% fb
FB op with 43% crit brothers get the crit!
yea i know thats my point, imagine outlaw first part of gambit
sweats
had a crazy pull on loominar myth yesterday, coin was my top dmg haha
tbh I just wouldn't play OL unless it vastly out paces sin, it' sjust too much effort to do unless it gaps
who the fuck wants to sweat that hard
tbf for my 4th boss hc kill I had an insane outlaw pumping
I'm a gamer, not kenny omega
outlaw is for adhd kids
im to old for outlaw T_T my wrist hurts after 10min gameplay
outlaw bad
target cap funny
too many jokes you can aim at them
how many target sim should we sim for forgeweaver heroic?
it's not my hands, it's my brain
playing OL for more than 4 keys is like
bro, I need to lie down
cognitive overload
whispyr hehehehe
how many patchwork targets should I sim for soul hunters?
80
hahahahaa
2 target cleave add
Does anyone know if the fractilus trinket resets stacks when you start a key?
they do not
Ohhhh
Imma prestack that shit
I'm so triggered right now
I'm like pretty sure it doesn't cause I just did a key and it didn't
I'm going to go tank a key, JUST to test it
mine did yesterday
Well I know what Iโm trying today
Im going to be SO mad


I had a 10 stacker going into the first pack in my flood
idk what to tell you
maybe the game is working as intended again
just like fatebound 4pc
and fatebound tails coins giving cp
and probably like 35 other things


hold kb for 15 is what id do
it's so fucking confusing
if it happens
It always fucks me up
I end up having to wait like 30ish seconds to line the next dm up with vanish
Griefs my planned CDs
lucky people complaints 
Just tested 18 stacks of prism, started a key, as soon as the key timer finished, stacks gone
I farmed 28 eco domes for the trinket just for fractilussy to give me a better trinket the next day
Suffering from success
so maybe you can use it just before the timer runs out?
yup
whack
as soon as the gate drops it resets
oh when the gate drops
yar
yeah idk then
so in most dungeons, its useless to pre stack
kinda a pity, coz like
starting floodgate with a 20 stack would be kinda mad
but those minutes BEFORE a key is like... my coffee making time
oh
well
yeah
that's a fair point
on 3 targets do u use fan of knives or ambush proc from blindside to generate combo points? (no clear the witness active)
Anyone gotten any real Death's Arrival value yet?
y'know, sometimes new people ask questions, and I'm like "mannnn I thought I was good at this, now I realise some things I just vibe solve"
!fok
Fok Conditions Post-Buff
Fan of Knives as a generator to replace ambush/mutilate:
- Baseline 3+ targets, -1 if talented into momentum of despair and thrown precision, +1 if talented into vicious venoms, +1 if talented into blindside. (Generally 5 with raid build, 3 with Bleed m+, 2 with Hybrid m+)
Fan of Knives with Clear the Witnesses Up: - Baseline 2+ targets, -1 if lingering darkness is up or you aren't talented into vicious venoms. With Vicious Venoms casting during lingering darkness is dps neutral.
Fan of Knives with Darkest Night Up: - Only on 2+ targets, or without Vicious Venoms talented. This is also a very very minor optimization
The most important to remember is the generator rules, clear the witnesses and darkest night optimizations can be effectively ignored as they are not meaningful DPS improvements
like jpc earlier "most people just dont press buttons fast enough"
tips from the high end - press fasterer
same lol
it's kinda true though, if you ever wana see wild shit, do an lfr and log it
then go through that shit
it's NOT what you think
some people play like they have the obr penalty, its just how it is
i mean people in lfr are just there to vaguely afk till the boss dies
lmao was looking to see what you were talking about
bm hunters that probably don't have kill command on their bar
this goes hard
they just... bash cobra
forever
but actively
with variable cadence
like they're ACTUALLY there
present
playing
just badly
they're going to do incredibly well as of midnight when we get the ability to log in on mobile and do 1 button rotation
one button gaming is bis
need them to add zbr for me
I mean obr is pretty bad though
i talk mad shit here but im actually turbo shit
it's a good thing for the game overall tbh
obr would probably help me
accessabiliity is good
bis for leveling alts i dont care enough to learn even the most basic thing about
obr through some timewalking while watching netflix
the reason to play bm is to have cute animals
if I wanted to play a game with such little active effort I'd play balatro
not actually play the spec
maybe that's my problem with it, they let us catch ravens ages ago and since then my pets never changed
ive said it before but if bm was even slightly more interesting to play i'd main it in a heartbeat
ranged with complete freedom of movement
and you get cool pets
giga
instead they did the opposite and made dire beasts passive
so even less to do
my pet of choice is still just elegon tbh
cringe tryhard
raid boss pets are funny
LOOK AT MAH BOSS PET
i thought the tryhard pet was the weird outland crabs
apparently there's a bug right now where you can make certain pets massive
ravagers?
using a boss for a bm pet is the hunter equivalent of playing titans warrior
You mean like there has been most of the time? 
I'm kind of liking fatebound, its nice to not think about the mark
Just, chill
so how does the double cd on 4pc happen
so if fan of knives with clear the witness is 2+ targets should i replace this fan of knives with another ambush?
it kept happening every other heroic dimensius pull for me
stop bieng mean to my cloud serpent then buddy
he's trying his best to not get stuck behind things
different strokes
this looks like a bleed build, in which case you're not talented into vicious venoms, which means you consume clear the witnesses in single target
some people like to use flying pets that ignore most of the dumb terrain shit
oh that gets tagged, my b
look at this idiot getting automodded
also do flying pets actually path any better
the bomb crabs are a fun pet
i figured they were just the same as other pets
hm
they still fly AROUND grooves in the floor
and when it happens do you just send kb without cb
but they don't get STUCK as much
Anyone know of any WA that has audio ques for the dots?
unsure tbh, ever since I found out that custom sounds are one of the most common reasons you freeze in raid when a mechanic goes off I avoid them as much as possible
Most people are playing bleed build w/o kingsbane in m+ yeah?
Yes
oh another good pet, the zerith mortis wombats
first time trying assa rogue so been struggling keeping track of my garrote/rupture any tips?
@elfin flame Fatebound
as expected, refreshing on pandemic is just equal. Also expected,the more duration you "waste" from forcing a refresh before pandemic, the worse it gets

makes sense
Using plater
so just... perfectly time everything so that your pandemic timer hits at the exact same time that you have the exact gcds just prior to hitting cds forehead
exactly
do u target swapp in the opener or do u just send garrote and rupture into prio target and let it spread in carnage?
in the end everything is dark souls
play perfectly
make no mistakes
easy
every time i target swap i lose my main target and get fucked
because im bad at the game
so instead i send into main target
gg
its better to hit other targets, but its not mandatory
!carnage
Indiscriminate Carnage Targetting and Swapping
TLDRMouseovers/Target swapping is optimal on 6 target, or 8+ targets, but not necessarily required
- The 2 Bleeds spread by carnage are smart and will prioritize mobs without the bleed. If everything already has bleeds it'll apply randomly
- You as the character are still casting the bleed against your target like normal, this is why people will sometimes use mouseover macros or swap targets
Swapping targets is situationally better, but can be ignored if you're having difficulties with it. Take 5 mob aoe as an example, your first garrote cast will apply to 3 targets (your target + 2 more). Regardless of if you swap or not, your second cast of garrote will hit your target, and then apply 2 more garrotes, prioritizing the mobs that do not have garrote. In very large aoe pulls (12 or more), a standard opener (garrote-garrote-rupture-rupture-garrote-garrote) will only apply 9 garrotes (3+2+2+2) and 5 ruptures (3+2) if you do not swap, losing you 3 garrotes and a rupture.
It is technically worse, but the situations in which you lose bleeds aren't very common; the lost ruptures/garrotes don't contribute much to your already flooded energy, you don't get additional scent of blood stacks, etc. The loss is purely the extra damage from those bleeds.
I have a purple moving and glowing border around the marked nameplate
Works fine
y'know... IC just kinda reminds me of explaining explosive shot back in mop
every second question was
"do I have to space out my Explosive shots?"
followed by a cacophony of"
"just spam that shit son"

like intuition gives you "this is complex over think it"
the vets give you "ignore that shit bruh"
you're going to hate this
is that your bm pet?
stone idol lol?
have fun playing that
i think i'll throw sacbrood on and take the L
One who hates isnt unkind
Potentially can even be kinder than usual, because to hate you gotta feel deeply
ur on a trip to the scary realm now
my kindness is over



How does this sound for a very noob opener in aoe (letโs say 8-15 mobs)
Ambush > garrote 2-3 times > rupture > fok/mutilate > rupture (repeat 2-3 times) > tempest up > shiv+ death mark > into fok envenom spam until I need to refresh bleeds then I vanish for the bleeds and repeat

you ruined the fucking streak
anywya you wouldnt have to fok between the first two ruptures
bone spike op
yep
Pretty rough, because you already wasted Cp on the first rupture if you garrote 2 times. Id suggest reading the wowhead guide
/looks up bonespike
biggest tip for new rogue
also use imp gar as generator until everything that will live even remotely long enough is bled

actually read the things your spec uses
or ic runs out
Iโve read a bunch, helps for me to talk it out
I get it, I like to double check when learning even if I'm 99%
only cowards run Venomous Wounds
always better to ask too many questions than too few
that's true
cowards run IW you mean
real
KICK THAT SHIT
There is def something weird going on. doing hc salad atm with pug group and my KB is desynced on some pulls by 15 seconds
makes no sense
or let it go off, and kick the target that doesn't cast
tell everyone your kick was stolen
mate
losing to arcane gg
go next life is over
pugging salad bar week 1 doesnt sound fun
Is there any simple guide on how to play this spec i'm so bad at it but i want to improve, where do you direct beginners around here, are there any WA's/plater profiles or addons that really help with multi dotting management
but i wish you lucky friend
I am a BM hunter player my brain is v small
nah it doesnt my guild wiped yesterday on 1% and im trying to get the dagger
Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue
well there is a 3hour 30min video guide that will tell you everything if you want to watch that
all guides are good, wowhead is best formatted imo
Yes please
This is why they made timestamps.
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Written Guides
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/rogue/assassination/overview-pve-dps
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue
Ravenholdt Discord: https://discord.com/invite/ravenholdt
==Time...
to be fair, the 3 hr guide is very well time stamped
you can skip to the bit you need
wowhead > method guide
big win
lol is the method one similar to the max roll?
Also how important is multi dotting im on soul hunters but my dmg is actually tank levels of bad
"hit kingsbane, dw about shiv, that's for soothe"
go check who the author is
very important ofc
honestly idc who it says, we all know the author is chatgpt
yeah i mean
u want to retain all ruptures if pos
its whispyr
whispyr does method
LMFAO

the maxroll one

I was talking about
to be fair i have no proof whispyr isnt an advanced ai
!fuu
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
we dont do australian here sorry
WOAH
But fimb is right there
Ye Whispyr does the Method guide and the maxroll is a bad AI rip off 

i hear the method sub one is written by some dumbass animal
Eh no
not sure tho
written by the most subtle of creatures
Most certainly
@cunning needle sorry bud
One of the worst
??????????????
don't annoy fimb, he's trying to find someone to put soleah's on
Stealthi said you're banned. You're free from this place.
WHY DOES EVERYONE HAVE HASTE
we're never truly free
Ok but swapping from ranged to melee is impossible because how do you guys actually see anything
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIITT
though the prisons are of our own making
you copped a ban?
that's the secret, we don't
are you one of those EVIL people who ABUSED REP?!?!?! NOT THE COVETED REP!!!!???
I'm not even facing ther right way 20% of the time
Dodge swirlies through vibes
Id try to find something other than soleahs to put on in the first place
yeh dunno why they found some random ass raccoon in a dumpster and where like "here go do guide"

Raccoons are trustworthy
yeah well lily isnt dropping
We just close our eyes and hope for the best
They're just fuzzy little guys
and the only other trinkets i have are 694 ilvl
as an australian, honestly raccoons LOOK awesome
I understand they're a fucking menace though








