assassination

[supple hinge]

that addons going to addon jail

[keen spruce]

threat is a tank problem

if i die i die

[supple hinge]

real if tricks fails, we all fail

[wise socket]

if you get threat as a rogue its a tank issue anyways

[jaunty sky]

Lmao friend of mine was also running the double nameplates for some reason

[balmy condor]

You have two addons

Oh

That was like

A long time ago

Fuck discord

[keen spruce]

[prisma ice]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[balmy condor]

I love it when I hit enter and the entire channel flies past me

And then I don’t know what decade I’m in

[haughty flicker]

[supple hinge]

which talent is IC?

[jaunty sky]

2 nameplates to make sure we're seeing ALL the casts

[keen spruce]

indiscriminate carnage

bottom right of the tree

well next to bottom right

[supple hinge]

ah so when my burst garrots run out, i gotta vanish again to reapply them all?

[balmy condor]

“Wow has awful visual clarity” and their ui is this

[keen spruce]

yeah but normally the back will be dead by the

[humble verge]

no u dont need to

[keen spruce]

then

or just manually reapply bleeds

really situational

[jaunty sky]

That plus unedited UI with added weakauras

[supple hinge]

i got cutting edge once killing sarkareth with 2 classic numbers addons AS FUCKING FIRE MAGE. it got to the point where i had to have them no matter how blinded i got

it was like a drug

[jaunty sky]

Action bars on bottom 25% of the screen, dbm timer, class wa, wa timer..

[supple hinge]

then what do i do when they run out? reapply each manually?

[keen spruce]

ye

if the mobs will live long enough

like 10s or so

[supple hinge]

this was my UI while i got cutting edge

[keen spruce]

🛑

[coral ibex]

paladins boosting in SM be like

[haughty flicker]

[supple hinge]

therell never be a fight like assault of zaquali 😔 crack dont hit as hard as that fight with classic numbrs

[jaunty sky]

I thought my nameplate scrolling battle text addiction was bad

[haughty flicker]

dude loves damage numbers so much he made sure he sees everyones damage numbers

[supple hinge]

nah its like bloons td6 if you can still see your doin something wrong

[supple hinge]

its 2 classic numbers addons, so im seeing the same numbers twice

it was honestly harder to dump than MDMA

[zenith elm]

Fcking love it

It is me, its 3 am

[raw marlin]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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[balmy condor]

Have you ever thought about getting into competitive microsoft excel

[novel star]

3 deathmarks no coin

give me 2p please i cant take it anymore

[viscid spear]

https://tenor.com/view/call-of-duty-gif-3477839282065624816

[tall bluff]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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[raw marlin]

do you reapply bleeds in DM/KB ?

[blazing tulip]

i rolled 34 heads

https://i.imgur.com/mnlOK3b.png

[past bobcat]

whats the sim diff for using nether every dm

as opposed to every other

[haughty flicker]

one day i wish to achieve this level of rng

[fallow canopy]

sheesh

[lunar ibex]

does anyone have a plater mod that colors enemy bars differently depending on if they have garrote, rupture, or both on them?

[haughty flicker]

i feel lucky if i get past 10

[fallow canopy]

my pb is 23

someday I'll get 99

[balmy condor]

If they’re gonna drop yeah

[supple hinge]

i live for the numbers

[balmy condor]

0.6

[supple hinge]

so like in ST raid fights, you get to the 3 minute mark and your out of thistle tea, running low on energy. do you just tank the downtime waiting for buttons? like i genuinly cant think of a way to not have that happen

do you deadass just wait for the energy to come back

[balmy condor]

yes

[novel star]

!design

[prisma monolith]

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. As a burst spec our damage is mainly loaded into Deathmark/Shiv and massive Envenoms through stacking multiple nature damage buffs such as Lingering Darkness, Shiv, Darkest Night, Amplifying Poison, and more. This comes with the natural downside of our damage suffering outside of these windows, in part due to the designed lack of energy slowing us down.

Because of this, there is only one minor (0.3%) min-max with energy, which is pooling 3-4 seconds into an upcoming Kingsbane. Ideally this would put you at around 50-60% energy before you enter your Kingsbane, which is more than enough energy alongside thistle tea. Outside of that, spam Envenom and just accept that you will run out of energy. There is nothing you can do to not run out of energy. Playing around Envenom uptime also is not relevant anymore, as Twist the knife allows for two stacks at a time, which reduces wasted uptime dramatically. Without twist the knife, wasting uptime is unavoidable.

[indigo mulch]

Out of curiosity, how much is 4p actually worth in m+?

I'm trying to figure out if i'm just shit at the video game or not 🙁

[main bridge]

Short answer is that it’s very good but if you want a performance analysis a log is the best bet

[solid talon]

i feel like my dps is subpar, will 4 set make a difference?

[supple hinge]

so you deadass do just sit and play clash royale waiting for your energy

[haughty flicker]

i prefer to watch netflix

[supple hinge]

CE prog must suck after 3 mins in a fight, your just waiting

[haughty flicker]

but yeah

[wet ruin]

@balmy condor did you see the coin bug? Any way to sim that without changes on the back end?

[indigo mulch]

Doing Dementius with 2p felt horrible.

tbh :C

[solid talon]

thats what i mean

[supple hinge]

i think the jump from 2p to 4p is massive for assas, 2p is just 10% on one CD

[indigo mulch]

No the jump from old 4p to 2+2 is massive.

[solid talon]

i hope so

[supple hinge]

KB is like 30% of our damage so what, 3% increase roughly? add the 4 sec and make it 4-5%

[indigo mulch]

From what i understand going from 2p to 4p is only like 250k dps or so

If you look at it in a vacum that is.

[cursive hatch]

wtf kind of insane rng is this. highest I hit was 13 multiple times last night

[balmy condor]

no and it's likely to get fixed soon anyway

[indigo mulch]

What's bugged with our coins now? D:

I do feel like 4p is massive on fights like last boss and nexus king.

[supple hinge]

its timing based i think, dependant on how many extra kingsbanes you get

1 meh, but 2 holy shit

[indigo mulch]

Last boss you have to like hold 2min either in p1 or p2 to have it up for p3. I'm guessing with 1.5min you can just blast every platform

[wet ruin]

coins crit proc seal fate

[indigo mulch]

Same with nexus king, you can just full send without having to hold anything and you can still blast the big add with cds.

Ah

[solid talon]

4pc in m+ i will make a big jump in dps?

[indigo mulch]

Like i said, on paper, going from 2+2p to 4p is like 250k dps or something. (don't quote me on numbers)

But i feel like in practice is just way more.

[humble verge]

it didnt feel like iy

it

but ive only sampled liir

like 3 dungs

[raw marlin]

caustic spatter tracker anyone? not big enough

[humble verge]

after getting 4p

[main bobcat]

It makes it easier to cycle marks throughout targets in a pull or easier to get darkest night to reapply on 2nd ecodome boss and shit

[humble verge]

🥀 🥀 🥀 🙏 🙏 😔 😔 😔

[main bobcat]

If your damage is tragic getting 4p will likely not change that

[supple hinge]

bros splattering all over the place

https://tenor.com/view/look-what-you-did-chaos-explosion-explode-gif-3259515045054386931

[humble verge]

the only place where my dps mighte changed

was like at the first pulls

[raw marlin]

all i want to do is make it 38x38 and it changes to this shit lol

[solid talon]

my damage was equal to an aff lock in m+ 🙁

[supple hinge]

arent they busted rn M+?

[humble verge]

i went from like 16-17m on first pack street

[solid talon]

yes

[supple hinge]

cuz of wither buff

[humble verge]

to like 22-23

[balmy condor]

your envenom tracker is so small

[blazing tulip]

we can barely see it

[humble verge]

lets make the whole screen green

[indigo mulch]

The first pull in floodgates is kind of sexy. That's a minimum of 25~30mil every single time 😄

[raw marlin]

well i wanted the one you had but when i import your edit its not there lol

[humble verge]

i hate fg fuck that dung

[indigo mulch]

I love it.

[balmy condor]

it definitely is there

[indigo mulch]

I'm a street hater.

[raw marlin]

plus i forget to even use that talent so it may be useless anyway

!wa

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[viscid spear]

MOMMA'S MAD

[humble verge]

street got nerfed even more

[indigo mulch]

Oh?

[main bobcat]

Yeah that key isnt very hard anymore

[indigo mulch]

Floodgate is such a good key for overall though :C

Big numbers makes brain happy

I'm only 2+2 and i'm still hovering around 7.5 to 8mil overall in that dungeon.

[viscid spear]

Neuron activation

[indigo mulch]

Yes sir

[main bobcat]

Fg containts architects

It can never be good

That mob surviving 2 seasons is insane

[indigo mulch]

I love when dem bots comes rushing over to you spinning while your rooted.

makes me very happy everytime

[supple hinge]

is there a limit?

[grave rivet]

There a bug on FB KB?

[supple hinge]

did someone say.... numbers?

[grave rivet]

I swear it went back to 1min

instead of 45s

[balmy condor]

did you lose the capstone

[grave rivet]

Ahh thank you

[charred mango]

Can the fatebound capstone happen twice and make the cds 30sec and 1 min with 4p?

[indigo mulch]

no

the 4p will just reduce it to 45/90s

[sand otter]

for a split second i thought i was looking at a pre filtered POE loot drop screen

[humble verge]

go play prio or hoa

they are pad dungs

honestly, even streets almost feel like a pad dung

[supple hinge]

nope thats assault of zaquali, most fun wow fight OAT

[humble verge]

ecodome is also pad

[balmy condor]

it's bugged, check pins

[humble verge]

no wonder my kb was off cd and my dm was 30s cd...

[raw marlin]

what delve do i do for the crit belt thing

skittering breach?

[humble verge]

it should tell you

[raw marlin]

never thought to hover over a greyed out bar tbh

lol

[humble verge]

man, why this ad want me to goon, im just tryna circlejerk nba posts

[zinc willow]

!wa

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[supple hinge]

i think you want this for your belt, not a delve belt

cuz of the il

[raw marlin]

nah it was the crit socket thing

got it now

[supple hinge]

ohh

[raw marlin]

just ran a tier 1 of skitter

[normal mist]

smh missing a socket

smh using lightnin rod, keeping you from stealthing

[nova kelp]

a lot of peeps are running light rod atm, coz they view the armory of like the RWF guys not realising that the belt just DEFAULTS to rod in the view

[supple hinge]

im retired

[supple hinge]

ill be honest, i had no idea you could change it

ive just now found this information out

[nova kelp]

based truthteller

[supple hinge]

whats the best pick? critical chain?

[normal mist]

smh smh

or mastery

pick the coolest

[nova kelp]

it's PROBABLY crit chain for most

[normal mist]

i cant

[supple hinge]

ill pick the one i dont have 65% of

[normal mist]

fucks my priory

[nova kelp]

sims still push me on chain with 44% crit

[normal mist]

unles priory crit is a thing

[nova kelp]

oh right right, m+ is a thing

fuck that, mine just stays on crit

man actually FB is so crit thirsty
it still pushes me towards councils guile with 44% base crit

[rotund crescent]

apologies if this is a stupid question but does Vicious Venoms change how we interact with caustic splatter. like is it stronger to use Mutilate in small cleave packs vs fan?

[nova kelp]

spatter just spatters

[inland idol]

!talents

[normal mist]

wowhead.com

[inland idol]

ty

[nova kelp]

your interaction with the spatter talent doesn't really change beyond the fok rules

[normal mist]

These rules:

!fok

[prisma monolith]

Fok Conditions Post-Buff
Fan of Knives as a generator to replace ambush/mutilate:

• Baseline 3+ targets, -1 if talented into momentum of despair and thrown precision, +1 if talented into vicious venoms, +1 if talented into blindside. (Generally 5 with raid build, 3 with Bleed m+, 2 with Hybrid m+)
  Fan of Knives with Clear the Witnesses Up:
• Baseline 2+ targets, -1 if lingering darkness is up or you aren't talented into vicious venoms. With Vicious Venoms casting during lingering darkness is dps neutral.
  Fan of Knives with Darkest Night Up:
• Only on 2+ targets, or without Vicious Venoms talented. This is also a very very minor optimization

The most important to remember is the generator rules, clear the witnesses and darkest night optimizations can be effectively ignored as they are not meaningful DPS improvements

[nova kelp]

follow that, and ensure spatter is active on your primary target

[oblique sky]

anywhere i can see openner with FB assa ST raid talents?

[normal mist]

yes

in wowhead

[nova kelp]

dude straight up I thought you were just gona leave that at
"yes"

[normal mist]

I'm not a jerk 90% of the time

[nova kelp]

I was ready with a based emote

[normal mist]

xD

I usually answer every question i know the answer to, unless is a rage baiter trying to have fun

[fallow canopy]

can confirm, royal is a homie

[normal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/thank-you-gif-16890160374034355907

[nova kelp]

I'm actually kinda surprised we haven't had MORE fotm rage baiters tbh

just the occasional "you're so op and trying to tell me you're not!"

[normal mist]

😂

[nova kelp]

<ret pally disc tag>

[naive python]

Question (thats prob been asked many times before): Is there a haste % I should be trying to get to with bleed build or does it not matter as much anymore?

[nova kelp]

no goal with stats

just sim and obey the robit

[naive python]

Yee robit is life

Alright, thanks

[nova kelp]

we're big pro clanker here in sin

[naive python]

I can get behind this

[normal mist]

Not being locked behind breakpoints is amazing

[nova kelp]

imagine playing a cringe spec that has like a haste tax or something

who would even...

[normal mist]

To add to the mix they don't even use MH dagger

https://tenor.com/view/sealyx-naked-gun-the-naked-gun-facepalm-facepalm-meme-gif-11743768702765397589

[nova kelp]

*ready baguettes to distract zac

[supple hinge]

bruh we just killed HC first boss with 6 MINUTES BEFORE SERVER shut down, ASWELL as bug RNG on the intermission making it impossible

the rush

[normal mist]

Good job mister homie

Any good loot?

[nova kelp]

we started pressing into plex mythic last night, that's a hell of a jump

[supple hinge]

not a single think i could roll XD

classic

[normal mist]

[warm beacon]

why is parry still a thing

[sharp hazel]

Do we vanish after kings cold in the opener for ST?

[rocky condor]

We sim Dungeon Slice or Patchwerk 5 Targets?

[wicked carbon]

Patchwerk, Dungeon Slice isn't very reliable

[rocky condor]

Thanks!

[nova kelp]

vanish right alongside kb yeah

[coral ibex]

no

sim dungeonslice

patchwerk 5t is unreliable

[nova kelp]

^ this

[rocky condor]

[coral ibex]

use dungeonslice

[wicked carbon]

explain please

[coral ibex]

patchwerk 5t is not as well supported

[peak bobcat]

No one plays rogue

[coral ibex]

you should watch the whispyr video that explains why

https://youtu.be/HZXEXxFABJM?t=9095

timestamp

[sterile swallow]

I still need to finish that monster of a video

[nova kelp]

the whole "not well supported" is often just handed down knowledge from player to player old wives tale styles

and we just accept the knowledge as valid without question

in the case of whispyr giving the knowledge, it's valid because he literally makes it

[humble verge]

when my job apps keep getting rejected

[nova kelp]

lawning is a valid expression of self

[nova kelp]

based expression of frustration - bump

bro that first boss in the raid is parry central

envenom parry, envenom parry, coin parry
FUCK BRO

feels like I'm lagging

[zinc willow]

!tott

[prisma monolith]

Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:

/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0

[wicked carbon]

Aight makes sense if APLs are optimized for DungeonSlice

I advised against it because many people used to not trust DungeonSlice in other Class Discord communities

[balmy condor]

yeah but we're rogues

dungeonslice has restealths and chainpulls and stuff

it's just the closest thing to actual dungeon scenarios

[buoyant herald]

man tuesday lfr is a sight to behold huh

[wicked carbon]

I guess the only issue with this would be that every dungeon and pulls are so different from each other that even if it's the closest thing to actual dungeon scenarios it could still be far off the mark in many cases. Imo sims are only about having a reference point to compare builds and upgrades but it could make sense that this specific scenario being predictable and optimized for would be the best reference point

[random quarry]

should i drop my 4pc for 2pc?

[cursive reef]

Is there a current bleed build for Single Target?

[candid sun]

too cute to be smart

[mint urchin]

The other sims are no diff. There is never a fight that is truly 100% uptime with no mechanics or just 5-8 target 5m long without interruption either

[static glacier]

bruh

[keen spruce]

I didn't make it

but it's one of my favorite new things

gettin a lot of mileage

[wicked carbon]

Yes for sure but they are not trying to replicate real case scenarios. Instead they introduce the least possible complexity and optimize for the most basic of scenario. Some would argue that the complexity introduced by dungeonslice can reduce the accuracy of the recommendations.

[keen spruce]

dungeonslice is really just a 6-minute default dungeon sim

[balmy condor]

sure, but dungeonslice has a pretty big set of variance to account for that

it's for sure closer than anything else available atm

[keen spruce]

you could make custom sims for specific dungeons, but the ROI on that would be hard to justify

[nova kelp]

prediction maths is a never ending spiral of "stuff"
don't get lost in the "stuff"
just understand what's hopefully going into "best fit" of the "stuff" and enjoy the ride

sims are like a time travel movie

[coral ibex]

i just sim ST

[nova kelp]

don't think TOO hard about it

just think hard ENOUGH

[keen spruce]

[coral ibex]

its not like packs are difficult to kill

its just bosses that matter

[nova kelp]

lol then you'd never play bleed 😛

[coral ibex]

i play bleed bc its easy

[nova kelp]

we'd all be rocking fb with internal bleeding in M+

that would be a terrible time

[humble verge]

i play bleed or i dont time my keys, we arent the same

[wicked carbon]

Yeah, that's where AI might help in the future. I'm surprised no one has ever tried to train a model to optimize APLs tbh

[keen spruce]

because there's a new patch every few months

[somber fractal]

so is it ok to stealth before deathmark or will double jeopardy not work with edge case/4 piece?

[keen spruce]

for a system that has very small use case relative to the overall player base

[nova kelp]

if we can trick elon musk into pretending he's a world first raider he might do it for us

[rich minnow]

guys why the wow head rotation guide for m+ is using kingsbane? i can ignore it?

[keen spruce]

it's not

[balmy condor]

if you don't have it, you just skip it

[wicked carbon]

😂 RWF from his plane using Starlink

[balmy condor]

wait yeah true

it doesn't

[nova kelp]

you don't understand, he's just that good, he's good enough to push keys while he's in a board meeting

[rich minnow]

yeah i tricked myself

ty

[keen spruce]

[wicked carbon]

Yeah but that's the kind of things that I'd expect the theorycraft nerds to do for fun. Nerds in a good way ofc

[keen spruce]

I don't think they have fun, they're just trapped in an endless cycle of obligation and sunk cost knowing that no one else will pick up the slack if they take a break as they pay as much with their sanity as their time.

[humble verge]

maybe its time..

[nova kelp]

FUN

FUN?!

YOU THINK WOW IS A FUCKING GAME!?

YOU THINK SIMS ARE A FUCKING JOKE!?

[keen spruce]

what is that creature even called uber

or what is the show called

[nova kelp]

show?
he literally draws thees on the fly

[humble verge]

so tuff

[keen spruce]

I'm korean I can't read that

not all asians are japanese uber...

smh

[oblique sorrel]

/macro

!macro

[prisma monolith]

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[oblique sorrel]

/m

[halcyon saddle]

Hmm

[keen spruce]

I found it

[keen spruce]

I googled weird cartoon white rabbit japanese

where's the rakko pictures

that character is tough

[humble verge]

on my pc, sorry

its 5am

[keen spruce]

he's an otter

[humble verge]

and a legendary ninja

[keen spruce]

u really slackin on like half the cast man

[latent verge]

What is CT?

[keen spruce]

crimson tempest

[half tartan]

did i fuck something up where my cds of kingsbane and deathmark didnt go down on fatebound?

[shrewd grotto]

do you have 4pc?

[half tartan]

yeah

[jovial quiver]

do I want to reapply shiv for the last 8 seconds of DM or KB? have 2 set

[half tartan]

sometimes it is 1 min vendeta and 30s kings right on pull, then on the last pull i did it was 2 minutes

[keen spruce]

ye

right after first shiv ends

[jovial quiver]

so you dont want shiv to be up for the final tick of KB?

[unborn dragon]

Question for you guys. Are the sims for the bleed build still off or can I trust them now?

[keen spruce]

it covers

shiv x2 is 16 seconds of coverage

shiv ->dm->kb

so kb is 2 seconds after first shiv

[jovial quiver]

KB is 18 seconds

[keen spruce]

kb is 14 seconds

[half tartan]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/97xQF1bXgYaG6Mk4?fight=14&type=summary&source=9

here's the log where the cd reduction didnt work

[halcyon saddle]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[fallow canopy]

it is 18 with set tho

[keen spruce]

oh then it doesn't matter if it hits the last tick then

[grave harbor]

If i dont get a dagger tomorrow on vault is worth to craft another?

[keen spruce]

no

OH one of the least important slots

you craft one daggie for big mainhand and embelishment

then it gets tossed into the oh when you get a myth track wep

[grave harbor]

Ty a lot

[analog idol]

anyone got time for a log review?

[nova kelp]

oh right

gona have to teach a bunch of peeps about how your offhand doesn't do shit

[rigid fable]

dungeon slice raidbots its trustable if i want sim aoe?

[vale shore]

yeah, I unequipped mine. I have a really cool caster offhand that looks like a long staff I swing around now

[nova kelp]

yes

[rigid fable]

aight

[strong kernel]

hey guys i just got a so'leah's technique same ilvl as the empowering crystal of anub, would anub always be better or does so'leahs have potential if i can roll mastery/crit on it

[nova kelp]

sim it, but I imagine crystal wins

[strong kernel]

i cant find the setting for which stat it gives in raidbots

[nova kelp]

unsure, gona be honest with you though
I'd just plug in crystal and forget soleahs exists even if just purely for having to REBUFF every fucking 30 mins

[strong kernel]

thats fair, just was wondering bc my ele sham friend has mastery as his #1 so i wasnt sure if it just outweighs

ty for responses tho!

[analog idol]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/AJ9XFM7tBaWGyQvZ?fight=last&source=3&playermetric=dps&type=damage-done&view=timeline if anyone can help improve this. at this point idk what im doing wrong.

[nova kelp]

crystal has good uptime - it's a good trinket

[cunning needle]

also soleah doesnt work when youre not in a group

[nova kelp]

and all 3 things it gives are good

[strong kernel]

thats fine i can swap between ! just was wondering for m+ specifically

[nova kelp]

oh god, another thing to care about
I couldn't even be bothered to swap off spatter for sprocket lol

[cunning needle]

i hate my soleahs

and going in a group of everyone stacking haste

[idle radish]

how can i uh

add a plater thing

so my mob with dsm has diff border

[vale shore]

stats aren't real, they can't hurt you

[nova kelp]

in his case he's playing sub, coz he's more edgy than the rest of us

[thin lichen]

Just curious, but are we supposed to multi Rupture on 'The Soul Hunters' or just stick to one target as said in the wowhead guide?

[nova kelp]

he's allergic to haste

[vale shore]

the rest of us must be Dom then?

[nova kelp]

depends on build

[thin lichen]

I have the death caustic build from wowhead.

[nova kelp]

death cauterize

does it look like this?

[thin lichen]

yes

[vale shore]

didn't take Shadowheart, it can't possibly be meta

[nova kelp]

if you do multi rupture with that build it's just for energy return

[cunning needle]

they make me break out in hives

[nova kelp]

but the majority of your damage will be spatter

[thin lichen]

Okay, thank you

[nova kelp]

I will note, a bunch of big peeps are actually running the m+ bleed build on that fight

in which case you most definitely WOULD super care to mutli dot

[fathom flax]

Hey pals can anyone copy pasta me a quick macro for garrote/rupture for like
Cast on mouse over if exists otherwise cast on enemy target

I forgot the syntax

[thin lichen]

I tried the bleed build on normal, didn't do super well, but then again I don't have the 4 set or 2

[vale shore]

I was wondering if the bleed build was used anywhere in the raid, I guess ill try it out there

[nova kelp]

feels weird hey, but I guess big funnel is big funnel

[thin lichen]

Also I read it depends if you're guild gathers them well together, mine does not

[nova kelp]

something like this would work
#showtooltip Garrote
/cast [@mouseover,harm] Garrote

A note though, this isn't NECESSARY if you don't want, it's a VERY minimal min max over just spamming off your main target

[coral ibex]

@humble verge https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/277967538787450880/1407208605203042376/20250818_234000.jpg?ex=68a544a4&is=68a3f324&hm=2ae8539e41bed1358b59c78d0b1b2833a3db9329423b2801c0221b7556b80c61&=&format=webp&width=576&height=551

[nova kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/evil-spongebob-gif-6081957

[fallow canopy]

[nova kelp]

We just spend 2 hours getting stomped by plex

[haughty flicker]

rip

[nova kelp]

he has giant feet that parry everything

[fallow canopy]

yea he parries a lot

[nova kelp]

I was unreasonably upset about it

[red zealot]

There anyone who could help look over a log for me? I just got back into raiding and into rogue again since BFA and want to see what I am doing incorrect.

[haughty flicker]

link it and someone will get to it

[red zealot]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/WqmH6VNFMg8nv2yK?fight=17

[sweet delta]

Hello, i noticed Enchant Weapon - Council's Guile is the recommended enchant currently

is that for all content?

does it beat out radiant power in mythic+

[coral ibex]

god i hope we kill plexus tonight

[fallow canopy]

I believe

[haughty flicker]

you randomly shivved at 42 seconds, no point in that

oh yeah its like you're dry shiving

but you're playing fatebound so its not doing anything

[runic hinge]

@keen spruce

[haughty flicker]

before 4p just use 2 shivs every dm and 2 every kingsbane

[nova kelp]

beaten by a hoontah, washed

[gray hazel]

!wa

[keen spruce]

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[keen spruce]

got his ass

[haughty flicker]

wasted a lot of combo points too, make sure you're always finishing at 5

[runic hinge]

that hunter has 10 ilvl on me and s3 4 set

[haughty flicker]

no need to build to 7

[haughty flicker]

makeitquake more like

[keen spruce]

and you're delaying your vanish for 2 globals for some reason?

[haughty flicker]

make it to the bottom of the dps charts

am i rite

[red zealot]

pretty much

[haughty flicker]

yeah the vanish is a bit late but it shouldnt be changing anything from what i remember mr whippy saying

[runic hinge]

I did 400k more sudden demise

[nova kelp]

WOAH WOAH wtf is this, that sounds like a REASONABLE excuse
that's not how we play wow friend
I think you mean
"hunters are overpowered rtards"

[analog idol]

now that people are here ill try again.

can yall take a look at this and offer tips https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/AJ9XFM7tBaWGyQvZ?fight=last&source=3&playermetric=dps&type=casts&view=timeline

[keen spruce]

idk how coins work

i just know it's not what the guide says

[nova kelp]

noone knows how coins work

[haughty flicker]

basically as long as you vanish before the second cb envenom it seems to be fine

[nova kelp]

they just kinda fuzzy the explanation about coins and hope that whispyr joins in on the conversation

[haughty flicker]

so you get double jeopardy on one of the flips

[keen spruce]

well your'e vanishing super late

in your CDs

[haughty flicker]

yeah that one is significantly too late

lol

[keen spruce]

2nd shiv is after all of your CDs have ended

[red zealot]

So isnt too much wrong then? Just Vanish CB Envenom Shiv 2x on DM and KB and Spend at 5

[keen spruce]

you vanish is fine ig

the combo point priority is the big one

and don't dry shiv

[red zealot]

Alright easy fix

just shiv with DM and KB then?

[keen spruce]

ye

[haughty flicker]

for the solo kingsbane you should be shiving the second half of it not the start

[keen spruce]

it also seems like you're just not hitting the boss for like 10% of this fight

many large gaps

[haughty flicker]

you also like

forgot to press deathmark at 3m

thats not great

[red zealot]

Dont be a shitter and press CD got it

[keen spruce]

that lands right on a bunch of adds too

[keen spruce]

I think he was talkin to ghost

[red zealot]

Ah my bad

[analog idol]

i was told to hold cd's pretty sure we were on platforms

[keen spruce]

you're also focusing too much on spreading ruptures on adds

[haughty flicker]

ye yours was done i didnt see too much else wrong

the shivs are just bigly

[keen spruce]

just throw out 1-2 for energy

then back on the boss

[haughty flicker]

your next deathmark wasnt until 4:30

so you wouldve had it up anyway

[red zealot]

Noted thank you Bel, switching from FDK last 2 season to the guild wanting a rogue wanted to make sure it wasnt jut that, also doesnt help I am sure I am the least geared in the raid

[haughty flicker]

so you just lost an entire deathmark cast for free

[keen spruce]

no i mean in your opener

[polar fiber]

Anyone feel nerfed today? I feel like I’m doing way less dmg

[keen spruce]

you vanished like

at a random time

[humble whale]

@balmy condor is that build from a few months Ago still viable in s3?

[analog idol]

after first vanish in cd's send next on deathmark kb?

[haughty flicker]

yeah he means the sequence of your spells

[analog idol]

gotcha gotcha

[haughty flicker]

you need to vanish around the kingsbane

[keen spruce]

all of the builds are on wowhead

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[haughty flicker]

before those two cold blood buffed envenoms

then hold vanish until 3m and do it again

although on saldahaar maybe its better to use it with the 2:15 kb and then have it for amp

not sure

[wind anvil]

Anyone know some good coaches for sin this season? really trying to find someone to help me attain CE

[haughty flicker]

im the best coach their is

[rotund oak]

game saying ''activate sub''

[analog idol]

thanks for the tips

[haughty flicker]

only 100,000 dollars a session

[keen spruce]

basically all a coach is going to do is tell you what the guide says. Unless there's someone that will watch you raid and give you fight specific movement advice based around your assignments

and you'll just end up feeling like you didn't get any value out of it cuz the answer is "just hit your buttons in the right order stay on the boss" 99% of the time

[vale shore]

its usually not even about the order, just hit the buttons!

[keen spruce]

you'll get CE by doing your job and not dying

and praying your raid amigos do the same thing

[haughty flicker]

[vale shore]

make sure you /lean on things throughout the raid, to get cool screen grabs

[balmy condor]

technically viable yes but you wouldn't play kingsbane

[keen spruce]

AoE spit is powerful since they removed /spit. /e spits on you

[vale shore]

I thought you spit on the ground now?

[keen spruce]

yeah that's why you gotta manually do it

who spits on hte ground

[vale shore]

oh, but then cross factions just see you making strange gestures

[keen spruce]

when there's perfectly good chickens and mages around

[rotund oak]

no pirates in the chat this morning

[vale shore]

a good /lean crosses faction boundaries

[rotund oak]

[keen spruce]

red names only

(and bel)

[haughty flicker]

[rotund oak]

(bel is like BBQ sauce,goes everywhere)

[fallow canopy]

[nova kelp]

[keen spruce]

#1302556579157114921

[fallow canopy]

:3

[runic hinge]

:3

[keen spruce]

[haughty flicker]

:3

[hollow talon]

!vanish

[prisma monolith]

Vanish->Ambush during cooldowns with Darkest Night up has two main benefits:

• Getting more mark uptime by reapplying when it's down
• Consuming Darkest Night then puts you from 3 stacks of the mark down to 2 since the mark is already applied

As of September 13th with the Echoing Reprimand Fix, that second part is broken. Blizzard inadvertantly added a bug where you cannot consume mark stacks while darkest night is active. This will hopefully get resolved quickly as it is quite impactful. Until that time, you might want to consider taking improved garrote in your single target build (instead of 1 point of vicious venoms, or instead of improved poison). You do not have to do this, and if you would like to continue to play without improved garrote, you would simply hold onto your vanish in case you drop the mark. Once the bug is fixed you would go back to vanish->ambush.

[rotund oak]

[balmy condor]

Wow that’s an old command

[humble whale]

Why wouldnt you? Sry im very new to rogue and im trying to understand that, only playing assa for 2 weeks now

[balmy condor]

Should get rid of that

[balmy condor]

The meta currently is to play without Kingsbane and fully commit into bleed damage

[hollow talon]

whats the hero talent that our vanish works with now w/ fatebound

forgot what its called

[balmy condor]

It’s just numerically better to leave it be

[golden loom]

wait are EU servers offline what the helly

[rotund oak]

double jeopardy

[hollow talon]

cool ty

[spiral cypress]

yup

[hollow talon]

[rotund oak]

[spiral cypress]

damn

[rotund oak]

its time for some good old poe

[nova kelp]

you reading some edgar allen poe?

nice

[pliant remnant]

Was gonna be upset reading the chat here, but then opened game and the servers are up

Hallelujah

[vale shore]

our class mounts are ravens!

[nova kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/paloma-flow-gif-24580757

y'know the more I do these rock climbing dailies, the more I think blizz devs haven't ever been rock climbing

[worn badger]

there arnt many rocks in irvine. just tacobells headquarters and car malls.. and one cool science museum with a cube on its point

im too tired to login and fill out my vault =/ but there's nothing good on "tv" and tomorrow is also my birthday , i turn "Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything" years old but the restaurant at the end of universe doesnt have any reservations available =/ i should fill out my vault so i get something good for my bday

[mint valve]

how do i see what stat soleahs secret tech is giving me in sims?

[wary quest]

with full bleed m+ build i feel very behind during long boss fight (specially without adds), shall i ask my tank to funnel more to pump the dps or is it normal to feel low on st ?

[balmy condor]

Unless you changed it with a command, it’s haste

[cunning needle]

yes and yes

[patent snow]

Ye shall.

[cunning needle]

!design

[prisma monolith]

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. As a burst spec our damage is mainly loaded into Deathmark/Shiv and massive Envenoms through stacking multiple nature damage buffs such as Lingering Darkness, Shiv, Darkest Night, Amplifying Poison, and more. This comes with the natural downside of our damage suffering outside of these windows, in part due to the designed lack of energy slowing us down.

Because of this, there is only one minor (0.3%) min-max with energy, which is pooling 3-4 seconds into an upcoming Kingsbane. Ideally this would put you at around 50-60% energy before you enter your Kingsbane, which is more than enough energy alongside thistle tea. Outside of that, spam Envenom and just accept that you will run out of energy. There is nothing you can do to not run out of energy. Playing around Envenom uptime also is not relevant anymore, as Twist the knife allows for two stacks at a time, which reduces wasted uptime dramatically. Without twist the knife, wasting uptime is unavoidable.

[marsh fjord]

not gonna lie i love this raid but i despise soul hunters.

its so hectic for rogue to dot everything, CT everything, because they jump everywhere

[mint valve]

thank you whispyr

[prisma cypress]

when i did it i just dotted the ones close by. didn’t feel worthwhile to chase around adarus or w/e his name is

[haughty flicker]

i mean tanks should be pulling the other two onto adarus but uh

sometimes things happen

i just hit darksorrow the whole fight and kept bleeds on the other two

[prisma cypress]

i did notice a lot of things happen

[haughty flicker]

since darksorrow seems to dash around the least

[marsh fjord]

how much % was your log

[haughty flicker]

uh

lemme check

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/A1ZbXFDtVJxaMKh2?fight=5&type=damage-done

[waxen oyster]

I mean

she is the tank

so checks out

[haughty flicker]

real

i actually got fucking taunted

like an npc

[marsh fjord]

Yeah you did really good.

Did you play the bleed build?

or did you play KB

[haughty flicker]

yeah

bleed

op

[marsh fjord]

did you use vanish with your DM?

[feral wasp]

Do sims automatically account for 3min prism usage?

[haughty flicker]

i hope i did

idr though

if i didnt i shouldve

[marsh fjord]

Look how tihs looks now

fucking ugly man

[waxen oyster]

damn

bro is using the 2004 rogue mog

[haughty flicker]

ok yeah i did a bit late but i did

i also held deathmark a bit instead of sending it during the first intermission

[marsh fjord]

I just think i needed to rupture better

[haughty flicker]

but idk if that was actually worth

[marsh fjord]

and use first vanish

[waxen oyster]

I did week 1 hc with like

no gear

[marsh fjord]

and vanish with DM

[waxen oyster]

so its scuffed

[haughty flicker]

i think i had 2p for this

so not no gear but not giga either

sudden demise proc on boss

[marsh fjord]

Your kill timing is quite long on soul hunters do

which makes you do more damage.

[haughty flicker]

yeah we all suck

[marsh fjord]

long execute phase

[haughty flicker]

our araz was long as fuck too

7:40 araz

[marsh fjord]

Damn thats long af

Im saying that but our was 6:40 lol

[fallow canopy]

7:24 1st week things

[marsh fjord]

@haughty flicker did you ran over to dot other bosses. or just dot when they close and tanks come together

[haughty flicker]

tanks were pretty good at keeping them together so i didnt have to run around much

[marsh fjord]

Cool ty

[nova kelp]

holy fuck, anyone happen to know anything about competitive fighting games?

like

🤮

[haughty flicker]

literally the only thing i can take away from that image is that guy is apparently on flyquest

and im not evne certain thats flyquest

it just feels like it is

[nova kelp]

that's the grossest group in any competitive event I've ever seen

someone out there must really hate tachikawa

[red zealot]

38% Crit and 51% mastery on the lower side?

[nova kelp]

*shrug
just do as the clanker speaks

Loquendo veritatem creo

[haughty flicker]

si

[analog idol]

is bleed on the council fight griefing?

[nova kelp]

doesn't appear as such no

seems like it might even be "the play"

[haughty flicker]

it seems to do quite well

the alternative is to drop doomblade and sbs to get ct

with normal raid build

i feel like after the caustic fix bleed is definitely better but thats 100% feelycraft and im sure whispyr will appear later to smack me for saying it

[nova kelp]

"intruder alarm! back door!"

[onyx pond]

after i do my opener i do interrupt a mob and then forget to change back to my original target. How bad u think thats for my dps in m+?

[nova kelp]

in an m+ setting?

devastating

[onyx pond]

oof

[nova kelp]

the target that has your DSM and set up on it is your boi

[cunning needle]

use a mouseover kick

[nova kelp]

you fucking stick to him like white on rice

[cunning needle]

or just kick some random target and say your kick got stolen

[grim jay]

Use a decent plater setup

[nova kelp]

I use this often

works well

[cunning needle]

as a serious suggestion

you can prefocus a target

[fallow canopy]

"Oh kicked too, unlucky"

[cunning needle]

and then have a focus kick macro

[onyx pond]

so generally i have to target the highest hp target and just stick to it

[cunning needle]

and as an added bonus you can mouseover your focus target and kick that

if you dont want a separate macro

[nova kelp]

never a terrible option, but often there's a prio target in packs, it's not ALWAYS the high hp guy, this is an additional level of shit though

[drowsy hollow]

Deathmark damage overall won't be that high in a key right?

[nova kelp]

get the targetting part down first

deathstalker mark is like your WHOLE hero tree

the WHOLE thing

[runic hinge]

correct, on details it only shows the deathmark dot itself

[cunning needle]

not playing with a hero talent

that being said sometimes i fuck up and im too stupid to be able to click on the right target again

so I just press crimson tempest 2 more times

[nova kelp]

on second thought he might have just meant actual deathmark

seriously though

[grim jay]

What about shiv

[nova kelp]

deathstalker mark and deathmark should be like better id'd

[cunning needle]

not a finisher

[grim jay]

Tierset

[cunning needle]

this way i can force a DM on the target im targetting

wait

fuck

thats so smart

[drowsy hollow]

I honestly want all 3 rogue hero trees scrapped and tried again in Midnight but I doubt I'm getting that. Fatebound is just gonna keep it's tier set guaranteeing lucky coins and that's it.

[grim jay]

Noone knows what they will do

Trickster is pretty good tho

[nova kelp]

we're getting 2 hero trees for all 3 specs

trafficker and bitcoin miner

[cunning needle]

just delete hero trees

[drowsy hollow]

Trickster is lazy too. Making sub just slightly different outlaw in aoe is bleh.

[cunning needle]

and bake the good stuff into the talent tree

[nova kelp]

mate

they BEEN "baking the good things" into talent trees since like legion

and still fuckin it up

[cunning needle]

yeah i know

stop adding new shit

they clearly cant balance

or bugfix

[nova kelp]

idwym

[cunning needle]

we can go one fucking expansion

[nova kelp]

sin is super balanced right now

[drowsy hollow]

1 hour tricks should be in the class tree though.

[cunning needle]

without reinventing the wheel

yeah and fatebound 4p doesnt want to work

[nova kelp]

I mean

[cunning needle]

sub rogue sectech clones where all our damage comes out doesnt work on bosses sometimes

[nova kelp]

one COULD saay it works TOO well

[cunning needle]

im not even going to talk about outlaw

[nova kelp]

well I mean

TECHNICALLY

[haughty flicker]

I'm glad I'm not the only one who does this sometimes

Lmfao

[nova kelp]

sec tech makes copies of my rogue

so like

them fucking about doing nothing

that matches

[cunning needle]

there are dozens of us

[bronze pike]

while yes

[haughty flicker]

Double coup goes insanely hard

Ngl

[bronze pike]

limiting spec grwoth with secondary specs thats within 2 specs

is

kinda dumb

i do think blizzard could pull it off if they fucking listen to feedback

like

templar

templar is nearly perfect

[nova kelp]

it's been good @cunning needle - truth is they're giving rogues a support spec, and deleting sub for bard

[haughty flicker]

Like trickster with 4p almost feels like an actually good hero talent

[cunning needle]

delete aug and support specs

or make it work with details

[drowsy hollow]

There better be a void hunter spec to explain why there's been no rogue hero tree reworks like Shaman and Hunters

[cunning needle]

pick one or the other

[nova kelp]

pirate software told me all about it, he's the first second generation blizzard employee

[bronze pike]

we'll see tomorrow

behold leaks

[haughty flicker]

monka leak

[drowsy hollow]

It's the wrong font but I'm hopeful

[nova kelp]

we should have never been given demon hunter

it should have been spellbreaker/warden

wouldn't have even needed a lore rewrite

[drowsy hollow]

Same leak with those orc and Draenei DH also said Blood Elf and Dwarf Druids.

Drunk cat will be real

[nova kelp]

DORF DRUIDS

[drowsy hollow]

If the leak is real

[haughty flicker]

dwarf cat

[nova kelp]

DORF PUPPY

THEY GET BULLDOG FORM

[bronze pike]

we'll see tomorrow

[haughty flicker]

feral is a uh

[bronze pike]

cause one of these leaks is probably real

[nova kelp]

bro actually though

[haughty flicker]

one of those big fluffy mountain dogs

[nova kelp]

if I could be a bulldog feral

[haughty flicker]

idr their name

[bronze pike]

like every lea before

[nova kelp]

I'd be so down

[bronze pike]

remember when drackthyr was leaked

[drowsy hollow]

Today for everyone but West Coast already haha

[bronze pike]

and people thought it was fake

[haughty flicker]

yeah parts of these leaks are real for sure

[bronze pike]

and it ended up

[haughty flicker]

its just which parts

[bronze pike]

not being fake

[drowsy hollow]

I thought Dracthyr were real

[bronze pike]

telling

i honest to god thought it was fake

cause one

they look lame

[haughty flicker]

i thought evoker as new class was fake

[bronze pike]

and secondly

[haughty flicker]

but unfortunately i was wrong

[bronze pike]

they had no armor which is way to lazy even for blzizard at the time

and third

[drifting cloud]

for every real leak theres like 10 fake ones

[drowsy hollow]

If I didn't like my void elf rogue I'd boost a Dracthyr one

[bronze pike]

a new spec for one race is crazy

[haughty flicker]

yeah i still assume every leak is fake

but if one happened to be real i would not be surprised

[nova kelp]

what do you reckon, we seeing a bard in game first or a tinker?

[drowsy hollow]

Both at once as a Titan Artificer where one spec is Radiant Song Bard

[nova kelp]

ngl, after years of bard talk and even a fucking bard april fools day joke
I'm giga disappointed our first support WASN'T bard

talk about a chekovs gun

[drowsy hollow]

Blizzard has gone out of their way showing crystals, songs, and Titan tech being able to buff abilities, inspiration, reflexes.

[haughty flicker]

tinker next class

this time for real

[drowsy hollow]

Dagran will teach it in 13.0

[haughty flicker]

100% sure this time

[nova kelp]

dagran bard npc

big kek

[haughty flicker]

they make belts for their allies

[drowsy hollow]

I think Titan Artificer will be tank, healer, support dps

[haughty flicker]

as long as they get a mech suit like in dnd

im down

[nova kelp]

that's the worst class of all time

ew

where's the grenadier spec

[haughty flicker]

thats just survival

[nova kelp]

SHUT UP

[jolly heath]

Guys, i killed soulbinder, does it mean my vault got a spider loot pool?

[haughty flicker]

bomba

[nova kelp]

BOMBS ARE NOT A GOOD CHOICE OF WEAPON FOR CLOSE QUARTERS COMBAT

[haughty flicker]

its ok they're like claymores

only forward facing explosions

[nova kelp]

THAT IS NOT META

imagine after years of army training, you get out in the field your lead hands you a bandolier of explosives and says "don't worry, they only explode forwards"

on it sarg

[grim jay]

As long as they dont explode

And have a hard casing

[haughty flicker]

maybe survival hunters are just bomb proof

[nova kelp]

isn't a bomb that doesn't explode just like... a hard metal thing?

[haughty flicker]

like assa rogues spatter poison on everything within 12 yards, which would include themselves

[nova kelp]

wait

WAIT

SURVIVAL IS MR TERRIFIC?!

[haughty flicker]

so if we are immune to poison survival is immune to bomba

they microdose explosives until it doesnt hurt them

[grim jay]

Most smart people handling poison do have the antidote tho

[nova kelp]

hahahahaha
"and you soldier, what do you do?"
"I uh... I throw bombs at people right next to me"
"....uuuuuhhhh"
"don't worry, I'm immune to bombs"

[grim jay]

And you can technically become immune to it

[hearty seal]

2h agi polearm DH? hmmm I guess it could work

[haughty flicker]

maybe survival hunters have antidotes to their bombsa

[grim jay]

I will be really angry if they make a cool dh spec

Dont wanna play the fel bat

[drowsy hollow]

There was a scythe DH in legion

[hearty seal]

nobody tell them that our poison is just a sauce we like and everyone else hates

[drowsy hollow]

In fact the leak uses her scythe

[haughty flicker]

yeah ive been saying for a while i think void dh would use a scythe like her

but on the other hand the void dh in raid just uses glaives

so who knows

[nova kelp]

mate

unironically

[grim jay]

https://tenor.com/view/taco-bell-explode-hurt-locker-gif-13883428

[drowsy hollow]

I mean they couldn't be that obvious lol

[grim jay]

The suit is the antidote

[nova kelp]

if we get a "fast 2 hander guy" not like "plate man big weapon"

I might stop playing rogue

[haughty flicker]

why couldnt they

[drowsy hollow]

Maybe they didn't have animations ready

[haughty flicker]

the other two bosses very clearly mimic their specs

why wouldnt the void dh do the same

[drowsy hollow]

Besides he does use scythe attacks already

[haughty flicker]

if void dh existed

[drowsy hollow]

Or his clones do

[haughty flicker]

he does cosmic scythe shit yeah

[nova kelp]

dh dance with a katana... this is all of my samurai fantasies

[haughty flicker]

you do it with the trinket from the boss too

you swing with a void scythe when it procs

[grim jay]

A katana isnt a heavy 2h weapon

[haughty flicker]

it is if its big enough

https://tenor.com/view/sephiroth-emily-project-m-ureshiiiiii-ff7-gif-21123995

[nova kelp]

it's a video game limitation unfortunately, it is if you want to have a 2 hander at all

[drowsy hollow]

Some FF14 samurai weapons are chonky

[weak plover]

Coochiegatana

[nova kelp]

otherwise you're DUAL WIELDING like a fucking edgelord

[grim jay]

Then its a nodachi

[drowsy hollow]

I wish Blizzard would tell us which hour of the show to check in. It's 4 hours supposedly and I don't care about call of duty or silksong

[haughty flicker]

i like how we have two days of housing showcases before we have a systems showcase

[drowsy hollow]

For whatever reason they dropped the pre-recorded features deep dive for the panels

I'm still hoping for a wowcast or something today

Not just a features trailer and a PC gamer article

[haughty flicker]

i cant wait for a trailer where a dead elf lady beats up a guy in armor then opens a hole in the sky

truly original

[drowsy hollow]

I'm hard coping Azshara shows up

[dense cedar]

Lor'themar dies off-screen in the cinematic

[haughty flicker]

yeah if they kill off lorthemar in a trailer im mad

ngl

lmfao

[dense cedar]

rock falls on him

[light grove]

Idk how to use my shiv in m+, do i have to spam it or just use it on every death mark ?
Mono target is so hard i feel so bad without kingsbane 😢

[golden loom]

bleeds are out in aoe?

press shiv

deathmarking a target?

press shiv

feel like it?

press shiv

[haughty flicker]

have shivs for deathmark

otherwise press that shit

fookin send it

try not to shiv when darkest night is up

if you can help it

but sometimes it has to happen

[cunning needle]

sometimes it do be like that

[elfin flame]

@balmy condor my rizzler i have a question

and maybe to anyone that has a meaningful answer

[light grove]

We are just full zogzog on shiv except on darkest night proc ? Okok ty

[haughty flicker]

can also use it at the end of a pack to pad sudden demise procs

[golden loom]

well if you dont have 4 set you can also shiv DN

otherwise you shiv to get DN and then DN

[haughty flicker]

yeah its just 4p that makes you not want to shiv with dn up

since it cycles mark forward

[nova kelp]

peeps always talking like kingsbane is actually a good button without all kinds of talents not backing it up

[rotund oak]

think this is the most optimal,shiv to max cp and send it

but havent rly rly simmed it

[runic hinge]

whispyy i love the updates to the WA ty and ❤️

[haughty flicker]

ok kissass

[balmy condor]

I’m on the edge of my toilet seat in anticipation

[haughty flicker]

[nova kelp]

he's talking about the disc

[balmy condor]

(I just came home from bowling)

[rotund oak]

dont be literally on the edge bro,accidents happen

[nova kelp]

the disc is a toilet

[balmy condor]

[cunning needle]

what you score?

[balmy condor]

903 in 4

[cunning needle]

that sounds good?

i think

[nova kelp]

<pretends to know what that means>

[cunning needle]

300 is max right

[balmy condor]

226 average

Pretty gud

[cunning needle]

so thats like 75%

ye i get like

[red schooner]

'To optimise execute damage'

[cunning needle]

low 100s

[balmy condor]

I’m usually averaging like 205-210

Couple 230’s today

Was good

[cunning needle]

beat previous parses

[balmy condor]

Missed 3 spares though very ugly

Still above average night though can’t complain

Physical form feels a lot better I’ve had to do like borderline therapy for my knee

[rotund oak]

Bowlspyr stream when

[balmy condor]

My knee at the end of last season just shot itself

[rotund oak]

actually poggers

[balmy condor]

Idk I’ve thought about it but that’s not really what I’m known for and idk if anyone would actually care

[haughty flicker]

dude this shindig question is gonna be a banger

holy

[golden loom]

was it known since season 1 that tails coin is proccing seal fate mr whispyr?

[balmy condor]

Yeah but they fixed that

Is it back

[golden loom]

yeep

[rotund oak]

bowling is fun bro,wear that gear and will be fine

[balmy condor]

Incredible

[haughty flicker]

i do feel like ive gotten random combo points as fatebound

[balmy condor]

Do you have a log