#assassination

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wind totem
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dont know if its still the case.

main blaze
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Is there something with the 4p that can have it trigger more than once to reduce cd of deathmark/KB? I was getting 1m deathmark sometimes on Dimensius today.

main blaze
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Oh I didnt even see the new pin yesteday

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thanks

balmy condor
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np

half dawn
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i might've missed it in the guide but I'm wondering why do you envenom before shiv/dm/kb in fated build but not in bleed build

vague dragon
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@balmy condor any help

balmy condor
haughty flicker
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Deathmark and kb both flip with tier so you shiv to buff those

teal snow
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Whats the best raid bot Sim Options for M+ ?

balmy condor
half dawn
teal snow
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Just like this ?

hollow fulcrum
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is like 1.5k damage at 660 ilvl and no tier good

balmy condor
hollow fulcrum
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like no tier from anything just raw natty gear

vague dragon
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i got it

stuck monolith
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Anyone else having problems on Azaz with target swapping your deathstalker’s mark rather than doing the mechanics with the adds. I feel like the mark drops on certain mobs during that fight and i an slapping the boss who has a DR just to get my darkest night back.

hollow fulcrum
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so basically we always have thistle tea on cooldown

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because we drop below 30 energy a lot

normal mist
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yes

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in ST youll always have 1 for KB

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if you're pressing stuff on CD

haughty flicker
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Save vanish to mark boss before amp

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If you have to hit echos just hit boss until dn is up then swap

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On mythic you only have to hit one pylon so mark will be way less annoying there

stuck monolith
haughty flicker
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Yeah it's annoying but pylons aren't really an issue anyway

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So you kinda just run around like a jackass for a bit then go back to blasting boss

thorn thorn
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Imagine having annoying spec mechanics in 2025

sweet arrow
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cant find anything on screams of a forgotton sky how bad is it? is it some kind of eye situation like last tier

vague widget
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I basically die by the pins and just thank everyone for the time they put in anymore lol.

haughty flicker
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Thanks I worked hard on the pins

thorn thorn
thorn thorn
haughty flicker
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No I'm in his walls

thorn thorn
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That explains the mobile hot spot

thorn thorn
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We are all secretly in his walls

lucid silo
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
hollow fulcrum
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also in aoe do we spam crimson tempest once we have all our dots up

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or am i being dumb

normal mist
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you are

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crimson tempest is a dot

zenith coral
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i have a question ab the gear rant, is it stats dont matter? surely we take higher ilvl tho right?

normal mist
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ilvl good

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more ilvl gooder

zenith coral
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perf ty

thorn thorn
hollow fulcrum
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so what do i use combo points on

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is it just envenom prio target

normal mist
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envenom

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hopefuly you know what caustic spatter is

hollow fulcrum
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i do

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am i dumb in not remembering to actually make use of it

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yes

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yes i am

normal mist
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thats our AoE

hollow fulcrum
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small brain moment

thorn thorn
hollow fulcrum
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i just started playing rogue

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i read about it but just forgot about the talent

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i main boomy/hunter

sharp viper
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is it possible to hold a vault and somehow have a peak at the next one with stuff like /simc?

buoyant herald
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Say no more fam

thorn thorn
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Is kinda what you are looking at

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Very bad to not use it

hollow fulcrum
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YUO

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I mean i press mutilate so its not like im getting 0 value from it

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but i dont press it enough

thorn thorn
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Ya

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You get the idea

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Its cheap to upkeep in aoe

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And you lose "free" cleave from envenoms

hollow fulcrum
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wait im basically playing boomy but melee

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sorta

normal mist
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yeah

thorn thorn
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Yes

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Both are dot specs

last skiff
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Do you use vanish in st with fatebound?

normal mist
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also, for your caustic to apply you gotta mutilate a target that has rupture/deadly poison on it

normal mist
last skiff
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why I cant understand

normal mist
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douple jeopardy

hollow fulcrum
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is the aoe opener just garrote spam into rupture to spread and then just mutilate envenom

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basically

normal mist
hollow fulcrum
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easy enough

thorn thorn
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You basically aim to dot as much as possible

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Upkeep crimson tempest

wind totem
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I had some dude in the wa discord make me a simple wa that tracks how many targets that im in combat with have rupture/garrote.

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Make it easy to know when to stop spamming garrote.

hollow fulcrum
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if packs last longer than garrote do i vanish to reapply to everything

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or do i just yollo random dot

thorn thorn
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Then just upkeep spatter and use fok/envenom on prio target as "filler" until you either go to next pack or have to start dotting things again

hardy dawn
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yo, any lore on what we do if we get insane cdr with fatebound on cd's, do we hold kingsbane for cold blood and do we hold cds for trinket for 1.5min or just slam everything on cd, seems hella awkward to play with random insane cdr

wind totem
hollow fulcrum
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ah ok

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thank you

hollow fulcrum
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this discord is way more helpful than the boomy one

wind totem
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Basically if it's like 3-4-5 targets left that will die in the next 10ish seconds you can manually send 3 ruptures in a row to get some bleeds up and ignore the garrote. If there are more and they will last like 20 seconds you can vanish to reapply bleeds.

normal mist
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also isnt random insane CDR

wind totem
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If your tank is a moron that doesn't know how rogues play you save vanish.

normal mist
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4pc makes dm 90 secs and KB 45(?)

hardy dawn
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oh thats not what im on about

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i randomly get a 32s kingsbane

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and 1.1min dmark

waxen oyster
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No?

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doesnt happen

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getting coin in your opener just makes you a 90s spec

normal mist
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theres a bug going around with DM and Fatebound

light mountain
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check pins ]

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4piece bug

normal mist
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didnt know about kb also getting bugged

light mountain
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go deathstlaker>fatebound fixes it

hardy dawn
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yeah i know the bug happens, i just dont know if you hold kingsbane for cold blood in that case or just send on cd

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ohh

waxen oyster
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must be nice having 4p

hardy dawn
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OMEGALUL yeah

waxen oyster
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Singular focus is so disgust though

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in keys

normal mist
last skiff
wind totem
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@forest meadow @light mountain Let me log in real quick.

normal mist
tranquil lynx
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Where can i find the loot table for dungeon and raids for assa?

normal mist
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there isn't a table for assa BUT

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!gear

tranquil lynx
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Thanks

normal mist
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Read the note

waxen oyster
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Wait is bro playing

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without writhing

normal mist
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i'm too

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its a dps loss equiping a 675 with writhing VS 694

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(for me)

waxen oyster
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tek

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no 681

normal mist
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i didnt play rogue s2

hollow lichen
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
normal mist
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i was 666 when this patch started

tranquil lynx
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Are u guys using kingsbane

normal mist
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in raid yes

waxen oyster
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in raid yeah

normal mist
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in m+ no

tranquil lynx
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In key

normal mist
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negative

waxen oyster
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kb sucks in keys

tranquil lynx
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So just shiv 7 instead ye?

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Do u prefer super charge or extra vanish

waxen oyster
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7?

normal mist
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shiv makes all your already amazing bleeds deal even more dmg

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extra vanish

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!bleed

prisma monolithBOT
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Bleed vs Hybrid vs Cleave/FI builds
Broad rules and Section in Guide:

  1. If you have to ask, you should play bleed
  2. If you're not doing +20's or higher, you should play bleed
  3. Even if you're doing higher, you should probably play bleed
  4. No, Fatebound is not good, you play Deathstalker in every key.

Some general concepts as to why people play different things:

  • 11.2/Season 3: Bleed has gotten stronger through some buffs and the single target damage you get from singular focus is ridiculously good with the tier set. During PTR testing many high end rogues were just playing bleed everywhere.
  • Ease of play: Bleed build is simply the easiest to play due to subterfuge/no kingsbane/less need for giant prio targets
  • Boss damage: The cleave build is mainly for boss damage (note: not prio, there is no significant difference in prio). Assa single target in keys is pretty bad, and some bosses during season 2 were not possible on high keys otherwise. It remains to be seen what push keys in Season 3 will bring in that regard.
  • Specific Dungeons: Rookery as an example is very boss-heavy, especially the last boss, making bleed less ideal. Rookery is not in the rotation in Season 3, and there are a lot of AoE dungeons. Dawnbreaker might be a candidate, but unsure currently.
  • Where the damage is: Bleed spreads out its damage and does great overall due to sudden demise and powerful 3-8 target damage. Hybrid is competitve but doesn't pull ahead outside of low target cleave and higher target AoE. Cleave is for single target damage and insanely large aoe because of how much caustic and crimson tempest carry aoe damage. At the end of the day, the builds are extremely similar, but Bleed is looking to simply be the best.
low saffron
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Between outlaw and assasination. Which is better for M+ damage wise

normal mist
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both

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whatever you enjoy the most

shrewd grotto
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do i not push ambush in fatebound?

waxen oyster
normal mist
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you dont need to @shrewd grotto

waxen oyster
low saffron
normal mist
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Give it a go

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its good

tranquil lynx
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Ive noticed some play on supercharge and do 8m overall

normal mist
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some?

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are we talking about zeross?

tranquil lynx
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Envenom and spatter super high on st keys

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His name is alotdot

normal mist
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thats a first

tranquil lynx
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2.7k

normal mist
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anyway

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bleed

wind totem
waxen oyster
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8m isnt that crazy an overall

tranquil lynx
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How much overall do u get from hybrid on flood and psf

wind totem
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Its the same weakaura with just trigger changed.

royal lantern
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why hybrid

tranquil lynx
royal lantern
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why do people always bring up hybrid

normal mist
tranquil lynx
waxen oyster
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Yeah low keys are great for sin

normal mist
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bleed

waxen oyster
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everything just falls over to sd

royal lantern
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like, hybrid has no been that good since S2 allready

tranquil lynx
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So u dont do second vanish?

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What instead

normal mist
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we do

royal lantern
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bleed

normal mist
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its the recommended build

waxen oyster
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What you play double vanish

hardy dawn
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i mean, highkey just full st with deathstalker and spatter does more than hybrid in higher keys

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legit no point to play hybrid

normal mist
royal lantern
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hybrid has been weird for a long time now

tranquil lynx
normal mist
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are you doing higher keys?

tranquil lynx
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Im doing 11 rn

normal mist
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._.

pliant remnant
waxen oyster
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thats not high

wind totem
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So no lol

waxen oyster
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lol

tranquil lynx
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I cant jump straight to 15

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I need to get used to the combo first thats why im asking

broken quest
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15 isn't high either dude

buoyant herald
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Sometimes I feel like people want to play the “high key” build so bad just to make them feel like they’re a high key player

tranquil lynx
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Do u go for supercharger with bombs

royal lantern
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its playing around spatter, but playing around spatter needs targets to stay alive for a longer time, aka higher keys

it doesnt do more ST dmg then bleed, and bleed just does raw aoe dmg and doesnt need higher keys, and if you want to do more ST you play cleave (which only really works in higher keys)

hybrid kinda has almost no purpose beyond "i like the gameplay"

royal lantern
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get that stick out of your ass omegalul

pliant remnant
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Only 9 16s timed in the entire world

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"15 isn't high either dude"

wind totem
waxen oyster
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I mean you probably want to pull small mobs onto bosses

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considering how much singular focus does

royal lantern
inland escarp
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Its kind of a normal loop in here. They come in, get told to play bleed. Argue that hybrid must be better because streamer x. People argue back against the hybrid

tranquil lynx
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I mean casualaddict still plays hybrid so im with mixed feelings rn

royal lantern
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its like league players telling you how everything that is not in the top5 of challanger is actually low elo dracthyr_kek

inland escarp
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why did you ask then lol

waxen oyster
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hes also doing higher keys

novel swallow
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Are the rogues in echo liquid or method streaming?

waxen oyster
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than 99% of players

royal lantern
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or is i cleave

buoyant herald
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Yes but that guy knows what he’s doing and why

golden loom
tranquil lynx
buoyant herald
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If you don’t know why you’d not play bleed then just don’t lol

waxen oyster
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Also casual likely knows how to multidot

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without crutching on IC

normal mist
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I'm laughing so much rn

wind totem
inland escarp
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Is this not daily at this point? XD

normal mist
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Gawdly with the perfect timing

buoyant herald
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You might even say…godly timing 😎

tranquil lynx
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So if i want to push higher keys i focus more on st with cleave than bleed?

waxen oyster
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People act like kb is a big dps cd

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spoiler: it isnt

royal lantern
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you focus more on st with cleave when your group needs it

thorn thorn
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0 days since last talk about build streamer is playing

pliant remnant
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Damn, Casual still plays Hybrid? That's crazy dude

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Untrue, but crazy

waxen oyster
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Also streamers likely build their comp

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around rogue having more aoe but less st

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so

tranquil lynx
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I mean i just copied his build from raider io

buoyant herald
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The reason that build arose was because a) pulls were gigantic enough that spatter started competing with all the bleeds again and b) bosses were literally not dying due to low rogue boss dam in bleed set up

wind totem
golden loom
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Idk like casuals latest video is a 15 dawnbreaker of all things and its bleed

buoyant herald
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I hate my phone

lunar ibex
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what are good sim options for targets/time if i care mostly about m+?

scenic vine
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In M+ if I'm running Bleed Build, do I maintain Crimson Tempest on single target pulls, like bosses?

pliant remnant
golden loom
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If he is running bleed in a 15 dawny B you can run it in any key

tranquil lynx
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When i run hybrid my crimson is 1st and spatter 2nd on dmg

buoyant herald
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Bleeds got buffed

pliant remnant
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Which he presumably logged out in, 'cause, y'know, raid

buoyant herald
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Caustic got nerfed

pliant remnant
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Look at his builds in the actual key runs

tranquil lynx
pliant remnant
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Okay

broken quest
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r.io doesn't insta update

pliant remnant
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and?

buoyant herald
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Right now the key to getting more boss damage isn’t to scuff your aoe by going into a raid build

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It’s to pull mobs onto boss so you can funnel

tranquil lynx
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So the key is good tank

normal mist
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yes

buoyant herald
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Always

tranquil lynx
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If not good rip assa

normal mist
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no

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2 vanish charges are life savers

scenic vine
tranquil lynx
buoyant herald
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Nah no roasties for a valid question, CT in single target can seem unintuitive

tranquil lynx
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To use the 12sec 20% crit

normal mist
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Also don't talk to me like i'm a pusher

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im barely 2.1 rn

waxen oyster
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You want to pull mobs onto boss

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singular focus is doing so much with tier

tranquil lynx
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I am 2.4 and im low

waxen oyster
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”why is the lightspawn dead first”

tranquil lynx
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Alright i guess i will have to figure it out myself

thorn thorn
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The study of the average M+ players inability to distinguish between actual data and data obtained from streamers could be the basis for a scientific paper

buoyant herald
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What you mean you got an answer

thorn thorn
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Im using that topic for my phd

buoyant herald
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But to that point a bit

wind totem
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He doesnt look for answers but for confirmation.

buoyant herald
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A lot of that kind of thing is an “in the moment” call

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And the reason your favourite streamer does huge damage is because they’re very very good making those decisions on the fly

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No guide can possibly give an answer for every scenario

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So yeah some of it you do need to figure out for yourself

tranquil lynx
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I do all kind of stuff but i cant get more than 7.5 overall

inland escarp
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People just cant fathom that what the streamer does in their groups is different than what a pug does

thorn thorn
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Play in groups that pull bigger

wind totem
thorn thorn
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You may find this hard to believe but genuinely your dps will be capped to a certain point until certain conditions are met

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ie; the dungeon is faster or pulls are bigger

tranquil lynx
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And how tf do u get 50m dps burst

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My pb is 27

buoyant herald
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You get 723 ilvl on the ptr

inland escarp
normal mist
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mine is 23

thorn thorn
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Big pull

buoyant herald
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Jesus

thorn thorn
normal mist
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with 692

thorn thorn
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Really is that shrimple

inland escarp
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Im sure this burst is not limited by the amount of mobs in the pack and their life totals

tranquil lynx
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I do same pull on gambit and only 27

inland escarp
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no shot

haughty flicker
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I burst 100m every pull

broken quest
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anyone got a wall I can hit my head into? don't wanna damage my own

wind totem
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I just insta kill the mobs

buoyant herald
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My brother in Christ did you really see one YT short with no context and think it applies to you

broken quest
normal mist
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Fuck yeah, some rock on the back so neighbours wouldnt think it was weird

tranquil lynx
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Ive watched all sorts of insanity for example 34m retri pala

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Who was with me in key

bronze marsh
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Don’t tell them that

buoyant herald
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But you understand like

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There are unique conditions to what is happening

thorn thorn
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Yea so

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Gambit first area is gonna have mega inflated numbers

broken quest
thorn thorn
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Cuz the target count there is insanely high

tranquil lynx
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Thats why i used it to compare

normal mist
tranquil lynx
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How he gets double the dps smh

buoyant herald
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It’s an entirely different class mate

broken quest
haughty flicker
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Spill issue

prisma monolithBOT
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Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:

/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0
old terrace
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anybody else play with controller?

thorn thorn
haughty flicker
thorn thorn
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My brain isnt bruised enough

humble verge
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lads

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if u havent already capped crests

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do it

humble verge
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and do t11 for cracked keystone

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and get an extra free 15 gilded and runed

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exploit early, exploit often

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as one famous mage/hunter/streamer says

inland escarp
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wowzers

nova kelp
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I did it. And then I accidentally spent my additional gilded on more runed...

normal mist
humble verge
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runed

old terrace
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I'm at 72 guilded for the week. Should I dump them into my 5/6 chest/shoulders, or should I wait for the runed I need to upgrade my 1/6 dagger?

humble verge
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what you wanna do

nova kelp
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Craft a dagger if you haven't. Idk. Its your crests

humble verge
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is ONLY

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use 1 runed upgrade

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for each piece

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if you line that up - you should get the runed achi already next week

buoyant herald
humble verge
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you wanna cap

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then get the quest and do it

haughty flicker
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Yeah i got robbed

buoyant herald
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I’m never doing a delve again I’m so upset by this

humble verge
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u got noobed Bel

thorn thorn
nova kelp
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Imagine a rogue complaining about being robbed

haughty flicker
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Delve gamers being penalized

humble verge
haughty flicker
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This is fucked

humble verge
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🤣

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kill me

haughty flicker
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Can't believe my love of delves came back to bite me

ebon prism
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how is ST raid damage for sin? should i be top dps or not really?

humble verge
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from Raphael to whatever this is

inland escarp
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#freethenip

tranquil lynx
fathom flax
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Hello to those aotc gamers, does anyone know of any cheese for heroic dimensius?

humble verge
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my gear kinda schmooey now tho

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just need to get wrists and head from m+

tranquil lynx
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Do i farm hoa for chest?

buoyant herald
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Imagine not already having 3 pairs of wrists from heroic and zero other heroic loot

humble verge
old terrace
buoyant herald
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Despite planning to craft in 2 days

humble verge
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oh actually

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do that

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since its heavy mastery, i would

tranquil lynx
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Is it wrong to have 107% mastery

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With 25crit

buoyant herald
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Stats are an illusion

humble verge
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damn this waist from nexus looks hot

buoyant herald
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But you’ll probably want more crit in raid build at least

fathom flax
normal mist
humble verge
grim jay
prisma monolithBOT
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There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

  • Signet of the Priory will require you have Mastery as your highest RATING (the actual number, not the %). Having Crit and Mastery close to one another will cause procs from Flask or Seaforium Pacemaker to cause your Signet to give you Crit. This is generally worse and will cause Signet to sim poorly.
  • Compared to each other, Deathstalker wants more Mastery/Haste than Fatebound, and Fatebound wants more Crit than Deathstalker
  • Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
nova kelp
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Stats a stats discussion has occurred!

humble verge
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no i

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...

agile wedge
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with the new timing for shiv with fb in raid, do i send the second charge directly once the first runs out or do i want for the last 8 s of dm?

humble verge
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its just a display

inland escarp
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from the same person who started the bleed vs hybrid

old terrace
inland escarp
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is he playing rogue discord bingo?

normal mist
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Yes

humble verge
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HOLY STANFORD PRISON EXPERIMENT

nova kelp
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Let's talk about the important things like having a 1 min DM on occasion because the 4p doesn't know how to behave itself

tranquil lynx
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Hybrid just gives way more burst

dense rapids
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Hey is there somewhere I could have someone look over one of my logs? I'm grey parsing even with decent gear and a decent understanding of my rotation (I think)

jaunty sky
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@humble vergethis is the best stat display wdym

nova kelp
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STATS

waxen oyster
haughty flicker
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I love that lucky coin is a physical object that has to fly to you before you get the buff

nova kelp
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Its happening again

haughty flicker
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That goes so hard

humble verge
nova kelp
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I love that the coins can be parried

humble verge
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WE ARE NOT IN FUCKING HIGHER EDUCATION

grim jay
humble verge
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WE DONT NEED THAT THING IN DA MIDDLE

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also

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the new curio system

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so goated

inland escarp
jaunty sky
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@humble verge CALCULATE THE AREA OF MY STATS NOW

humble verge
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i got avoidance

normal mist
thorn thorn
red schooner
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I made mistakes. I needed 100 points for 2k and catalyst and I thought, 'hey, lets do a quick +2, nice and easy'. People in +2's are animals uglyassdog

humble verge
# cursive hatch I agree

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round coyote
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
round coyote
#

!macro

red schooner
prisma monolithBOT
#

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

red schooner
#

Still not done gambit

agile wedge
thorn thorn
waxen oyster
#

doing streets before gambit

haughty flicker
#

Wtf I asked you not to tell

waxen oyster
#

is a choice

red schooner
red schooner
thorn thorn
#

His connection was too crisp

haughty flicker
red schooner
#

I got dragged into streets, having never done streets before, on a +10

#

It was an experience

hollow fulcrum
#

i feel like im doing no damage in aoe

red schooner
#

._.

jaunty sky
waxen oyster
#

i got dragged into an 11 gambit

haughty flicker
#

Holy mastery

jaunty sky
#

(very bad gear)

ebon prism
haughty flicker
#

Now go play outlaw

cursive hatch
jaunty sky
#

circlet + random mastery trinket i found

shy heron
jaunty sky
thorn thorn
#

We have failed every streets we have tried cuz item keeps bugging

haughty flicker
#

I got a mace bc I was accidentally outlaw loot spec

jaunty sky
haughty flicker
#

So now I have to play it

ebon prism
#

how come we all dont have gambit lol

nova kelp
haughty flicker
#

Bro said fuck eco dome damn

humble verge
#

only the worse left besad

hollow fulcrum
#

what rogue spec is the easiest to play in keys

shy heron
#

If I can get ksm without a single dungeon every season you can too

thorn thorn
#

Sin

waxen oyster
#

sin

humble verge
#

people still somehow

#

FUCKING

rocky condor
humble verge
#

wipe on first miniboss ara

hollow fulcrum
#

i must just be ass

flint tusk
#

!up

normal mist
hollow fulcrum
#

or undergeared

#

or both

jaunty sky
rocky condor
#

thx guys

thorn thorn
shy heron
jaunty sky
#

gives you the whole screen to stare at your char

normal mist
rocky condor
waxen oyster
jaunty sky
nova kelp
#

Fuck that is so main character energy

shy heron
#

That helm is definitely part of the drip even if the tmog channel will yell full set at ya

nova kelp
#

I hate it

#

You're a rogue. Stop standing out.

jaunty sky
#

yeah it's full set idc

#

I'm lazy

humble verge
waxen oyster
#

You guys copied me with that idea

#

smfh

normal mist
jaunty sky
#

i also made this but it's rare mob drops and timegated mog from cape

tranquil lynx
#

how does it look for keys

waxen oyster
jaunty sky
# normal mist

doesnt look that great on rogue imo(i say this because i lost both rolls this week)

hidden inlet
#

Is it crazy to run fb raid st build in m+? It seems to be doing very decent aoe by just spamming env on one target

For my profile it's swimming 20% lower than bleed build, but doing actual st damage 2223gchemoji09panik

normal mist
jaunty sky
#

also lost hc antenna to a warlock which is even worse

waxen oyster
#

i won the second roll for it

tranquil lynx
#

@thorn thorn what do u think

flint tusk
normal mist
#

Ghostblades being summoned

jaunty sky
#

i thought u played female chars to have an ass to look at

normal mist
#

... fair enough

waxen oyster
#

everyone took my mog idea

#

its glorious

jaunty sky
#

yeah i saw it and was like

bronze plover
#

hi in fatebount hero talent sometimes happen that second kingsbane after openner comes of cd before cold blood should we hold that KB and use it with deathmark or just send it?

jaunty sky
#

i didnt like the set helmet and cape anyways

nova kelp
#

Its not ok to be like this. This is paladin behaviour. Pala "my tier set represents me being a reject from an 80s sci fi space academy" dins.

#

Cut it out

#

We're not built for the runway. We stab and leave

jaunty sky
nova kelp
#

That's actually glorious

#

God I wish all one handed weapons could be mogged to 1h weapons.

#

I'd stab people with fish all day

spare viper
#

Hey guys, how important ist the 4-Set this season when you play Fatebound in Raid? Saw the "raw"-gain in a spreadsheet wasnt that good but the playstyle and the lineups with cds fit way better in many fight related to the 1:30 cd or?

jaunty sky
#

they look like shit tho

ebon prism
#

with s2 tier, is there a big diff in ST raid build between the hero talents?

nova kelp
grim jay
#

Thats just wrong

spare viper
nova kelp
#

No it's the spreadsheet

#

The spreadsheet is bullshit

grim jay
#

Sin set is just as good as the other good sets

#

Its a significant gain

dreamy rover
#

Even on the spreadsheets, he's still wrong

jaunty sky
dreamy rover
#

sin fatebound is the 4th largest dps gain when transitioning from 4pc > 4pc

nova kelp
#

There was a spreadsheet saying our 2p and 4p were like 1% each

humble verge
#

today was such a fucking mage druid hunter tier drop that I EVEN GET ONE FOR FUCKING WARBAND

nova kelp
#

Which is OBVIOUSLY wrong

spare viper
jaunty sky
#

@nova kelp

nova kelp
#

Yeah you can trade the old 4p for equal level 2/2 and get like 10% increase

humble verge
#

but honestly

#

even without new tier im doing nuke damage in m+

#

i wonder how good itll be now

humble verge
jaunty sky
#

can't wait for 4set on wednesday

nova kelp
humble verge
#

yes

#

retiring the whole set

rotund crescent
analog hornet
#

I hate tooltip-bugs... 🥹 whats the 4pc-bonus from Deathstalker? On WoW-Head i only find the bonuses from fatebound 🙈

nova kelp
nova kelp
#

Wobbly

analog hornet
#

Thx a lot ❤️

dense rapids
humble verge
#

what my raidlead think i am doing before the raid looking up the guides for each fight

nova kelp
humble verge
#

(i am fat)

nova kelp
#

Just hope you don't get the first mechanic

humble verge
#

which first mech

#

first boss?

nova kelp
#

Watch the other guy fuck it up. And don't do that.

humble verge
#

oh

#

like that

#

sure.

haughty flicker
#

at the very least you want crimson tempest, but i think most people are actually going the full bleed build

humble verge
#

i just literally

#

picked r1

#

on soul hunters

#

it WAS bleed

#

and just used it

haughty flicker
#

yeah bleed seems kinda good

humble verge
haughty flicker
#

probably even better after the caustic nerf

nova kelp
#

The funnel we get on that fight is kinda illegal

humble verge
#

this was without any pieces as well

#

just 4p from undermine

haughty flicker
humble verge
#

did u have 2p tho

haughty flicker
#

nope

#

no tier

#

gg

humble verge
#

alr idk

nova kelp
#

I played standard cleave. And got blasted 😢

humble verge
#

my araz

#

is somehow r51 tho

#

btw like

haughty flicker
#

i did have 2p

humble verge
#

fb just feels so ass with VV

haughty flicker
humble verge
#

sosig

nova kelp
#

Yeah I'm not a fan of Facebook with vv wither

haughty flicker
#

i dont like wither

#

warlocks other hero trees are better

nova kelp
#

I love warlock wither

#

What the fuck is that?

#

Lol

humble verge
#

its

#

the wither

#

in minecraft

nova kelp
#

It looks like he's goon caving

humble verge
#

probably

limpid crane
#

Any tips for Araz? Still sitting on 2pc

nova kelp
#

Your mark will drop on pillars. If you ultra care you might be able to minigame juggle the mark on adds. But also fuck that shit. Just save vanish for after the pillars.

dense hamlet
#

why the fk does 4set striaght up not work sometimes

nova kelp
#

FB or ds?

#

FB?

dense hamlet
#

im having 2minute Dm sometimes

nova kelp
#

FB would be improper play.

#

You can guarantee the necessary proc

humble verge
dense hamlet
#

ts so annoying man

rotund marsh
#

is our tier pretty strong? been unlucky this week with it tbh

dense hamlet
#

everything randomly de syncs

nova kelp
#

There is a bug

#

Where it procs more than it should

dense hamlet
#

nah

#

i have 2minute

#

deathamrk

nova kelp
#

Causing your shit to get kinda whack

dense hamlet
#

thats stiraght up the set not working

nova kelp
#

If you have a 2 min DM. Its improper play

dense hamlet
#

wtf u mean imrpoper play

nova kelp
#

Take another look into the rotation on Wowhead etc

dense hamlet
#

mf

waxen oyster
#

If its proccing more than it should

dense hamlet
#

ill look at the look

waxen oyster
#

shouldnt the cd be shorter than 1.5

dense hamlet
#

maybe i actually missplayed

nova kelp
#

You can guarantee the necessary proc

dense hamlet
#

ye ik

#

how to play

#

ts caught me offguard

#

too mad

nova kelp
#

Fair

#

Would trigger me too

waxen oyster
#

I just dont look

#

fatebound is dogwater to play

humble verge
nova kelp
#

Ignorance is bliss

waxen oyster
#

17 stack tails opener

#

one pull

#

then insta lose at 8 next

humble verge
#

ok

#

i feel like

shrewd grotto
#

why wouldnt my deathstalkers mark apply on soulbinder?

#

it just didnt work

humble verge
#

i have yet to top my 21 heads

#

on normal first boss

nova kelp
#

Bro... I launched the god of coins at nexus king last night in execute. And he was like
"Nah tho"
*Parry

humble verge
#

i only get to like

#

max 8 heads or tails

#

before it flips

#

actually cringe

scarlet wyvern
#

!gear

humble verge
#

i guess if we get myth track waist

#

we just replace the container

nova kelp
#

Man fuck the container

#

I wanted a new circes

#

I got a Temu WWE belt

humble verge
#

lmao

#

waist from nexus king looks cool

#

its a shuriken

#

but idk

#

current tier mog

#

looks okayish

nova kelp
#

Shredder vibes

humble verge
#

some cool features

dense hamlet
nova kelp
#

The current tier fails in the face of the same tier everything failed to since antorus

Dashing scoundrel

cursive finch
#

Anyone have any idea what WA would be putting a next cast icon to the left of my plater/

#

I can't find it.

#

I'm wondering if it's causes dungeons

dense hamlet
jaunty sky
nova kelp
#

It does. Admitting to miss play is uncommon and based asf though

cursive finch
#

Where can I find it to remove it

jaunty sky
#

Pretty sure that one has nameplate anchored shit

cursive finch
#

I also have omnicd too

zenith coral
#

we get another cata charge tuesday or no?

cursive finch
#

Where can I remove it lol

#

I hate it

#

I don't look at it

jaunty sky
#

Start deleting shit until its gone

cursive finch
#

ololol

jaunty sky
nova kelp
#

We get a half spark. No cata till next week after Tuesday

tiny pollen
#

What do I use for Rogue weapons, oil or sharpening stone?

jaunty sky
#

Kinda annoying that its desynced spark and cata again tbh

hasty aspen
#

soleah or scrabegg ? for m+

humble verge
zenith coral
#

okay so half spark this reset, next reset is cata

humble verge
#

no

#

this was cata

#
  • half spark
#

next is full spark

#

on reset

jaunty sky
#

Full spark next week

nova kelp
#

Yeah but to make the full spark you need a half

humble verge
#

which u getting next week

nova kelp
#

I didn't mean you'll have half a spark

#

I meant you'll get half

jaunty sky
#

And next is spark week

#

Wish they synced em again tbh

nova kelp
#

I
Will
Shadow step someone in a minute

#

"nothing personnel"

#

HAHAHAHHAHAHA where's that pic thingy made the other day

humble verge
#

wait what

zenith coral
#

also any real reason to finish out camp? we get anything from it?

jaunty sky
#

U get it next cata week

hollow fulcrum
#

wait so we’ll have 2 crafted items next week but still only 1 cata charge?

humble verge
#

no

nova kelp
humble verge
#

you have 2 cata charges

#

if u bother to do like

#

6 dungeons to get 2k

#

:3

nova kelp
#

Bro 2k is so free ATM lol

hollow fulcrum
#

you say that like my +2s on my alt arents getting bricked by shit tanks

#

or i cant even make groups

nova kelp
#

I feel like back in df you were fucking fighting to get that extra achieve in w1

#

Though ... Df S1 dungeons were actual terror

#

Also had to deal with ol dif

humble verge
#

damn

#

this is the first time

#

ive actually seen the FB coin animation

maiden sierra
#

i came

#

24 tails

humble verge
#

24

#

lucky bitch

tall jay
#

I don’t usually bitch about something like this but 4 keys in a row a tank or a healer has just up and left a key of mine blew up my key or a groups key I have been in…wasn’t there supposed to be a report etc deserter def penalty?

maiden sierra
#

god this spec is so fun now OMEGAKEKW

jaunty sky
#

I gotta get a fb weakaura for that

#

With tony hawk sound effects for streaks

cursive finch
#

anyone recognize

#

I want to remove thatupcoming cast

maiden sierra
#

i didint realise you can get your deathmark to 1 min cd if youre lucky

#

it really threw me off

cursive finch
#

oh it';s little wiggs

#

lame

humble verge
maiden sierra
waxen oyster
#

badge gamer time

humble verge
#

oh nvm

#

he didnt but

#

atleast he managed to get kb to line up with dm

#

and no wait

dense hamlet
#

so is the 2nd proc of lucky coin also counting toward the set?

#

or wat is even happening

safe ore
#

What type of sim do people normally run for M+?

zenith coral
#

ddungeonslice

sullen fjord
#

yo guys, is there any cancelaura buff for DISC belt?

#

im getting out of stealth cause of this shit a ton of times

jaunty sky
#

Yeah get the correct power for it

#

Skittering breach iirc

coral ibex
#

failed hm tazavesh bc my healer gave the wrong pw before the rp

nova kelp
#

Dude

#

Keeping the no death clause was actually insane trolling by blizz

rotund marsh
#

which of these is best for soulbinder?

topaz horizon
hallow bough
#

With lily being 1min 30, how do we play around it

rotund marsh
hallow bough
#

Delay it for every death mark or?

nova kelp
#

If you have fb4p you won't need to delay

#

If you're playing ds. Then yes delay

hallow bough
#

Ah I should have specified, in m+

#

fb4p makes it nice af in raid yeah

nova kelp
#

Essentially press with dm

hallow bough
#

Yeah fair ok

hoary fulcrum
#

is the H dimensius trink any good? I didnt see it ranked in the wowhead guide

#

i didnt get it lol, jw

humble verge
#

alr lads

#

is the call to farm arakara

#

for head

#

since its only 5 loot pieces for assa

humble verge
#

wait

#

u already did taza hm?

#

🤨

jaunty sky
#

He didnt

thorn thorn
#

Did you

humble verge
#

wass

humble verge
#

you double proc

#

lucky coin

onyx linden
#

oh, shit lmao

#

thats a thing?

#

hahaha wow

humble verge
#

yes

oblique flume
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
humble verge
#

what you prolly want tho

keen spruce
#

it's a bug tho isn't it

humble verge
#

no its not

#

why would it be

onyx linden
#

I mean the set bonus doesnt read that way at all

thorn thorn
#

Gamba tier set for gamba spec

#

Neaters

humble verge
#

like

onyx linden
#

it says if you have a lucky coin, the cd is reduced

humble verge
#

we went from worse gambling

#

to better gambling

onyx linden
#

not, when you flip it gets reduced again

tranquil lynx
#

is that how a cleave build looks like

oblique flume
#

Yo, do someone have a fatebound tracker WA pls, found nothing on the web

humble verge
#

we won

broken lynx
#

hey guys im rly stupid in the assa rog guide with new 4p whisp says vanish is a 3 min cd how so its baseline 4 does it get reduced to 3?

hybrid plank
broken lynx
#

Prism is the agility version of Spymaster's from Season 1, and should be macro'd to Deathmark. With the Fatebound 4 piece equipped, you can macro it to Vanish instead and treat it as a 3 min cooldown instead for a slight DPS gain. Holding it for damage amps or certain other parts of a fight can also be beneficial, but these use cases are more situational.

#

but vanish is 2 min cd so next usage woul be 4 min not 3 or?

balmy condor
#

vanish is 2 min but deathmark is 1:30

#

so you hold vanish for the 3min deathmark

broken lynx
#

ah ok thanks mate

shrewd grotto
#

why does deathmark never reapply

cerulean walrus
shrewd grotto
#

when i go to reapply deathmark it just doesnt happen

cerulean walrus
#

You mean deathstalker mark?

shrewd grotto
#

yea

#

too many dmark things

cerulean walrus
#

Big fan of DN

keen spruce
#

DSM you evenom with 7cp

#

while DN is up

cerulean walrus
#

Reapply doesn’t happen at 5+ it only happens at 7

#

Spending is 5+

humble verge
#

wait wtf

cerulean walrus
#

And if you lose Darkest Night you need to reapply using Ambush

humble verge
#

im 2797 rating ingame

#

but rio says im 2820

sacred cedar
#

am i meant to be starved of energy on bosses in keys

humble verge
#

?_?

normal mist
#

yes

shrewd grotto
#

even when i ambush it doesnt go back up

keen spruce
#

uber how long u play this game for

jaunty sky
cerulean walrus
humble verge
shrewd grotto
#

no \

humble verge
#

wow in general?

shrewd grotto
#

it just literally isnt working and idk why

jaunty sky
keen spruce
#

well not all the time

#

but occasionally

humble verge
#

what

#

did u

#

reply ot the wrong comment

shrewd grotto
keen spruce
#

I asked how long u play wow for to no know that they occasionally desync

humble verge
#

wdym desync

humble verge
#

oh

#

idk

#

but like

#

it doesnt make sense

marsh fjord
keen spruce
marsh fjord
#

Thats the best to do

humble verge
#

i have MORE score on rio

#

than ingame

shrewd grotto
#

that doesnt work

humble verge
#

????

jaunty sky
#

And it is annoying on that boss

keen spruce
#

RIO is not run by blizz

humble verge
#

yeah but

#

ingame score

jaunty sky
humble verge
#

shouldnt correlate to website

wide berry
#

when do we generally start seeing mastery as not our best sub? 60%?

#

i know its always go sim but i was wondering

cerulean walrus
jaunty sky
#

Too many moving parts

wide berry
#

figured

keen spruce
# humble verge shouldnt correlate to website

normally when they're different it's cuz of lag, which makes in game score higher. But other times RIO is calculating differently, maybe wrong dungeon timer so they give more score. or it's just a bug

#

someone else had teh same issue earlier

humble verge
#

idk

#

i think

#

all my 12 keys are giving mor score

#

on the site than ingame

keen spruce
#

right so rio is calculating differently

thorn thorn
keen spruce
humble verge
#

i raided

#

no time

#

im just excited for my pc parts coming tmr

#

:3

#

besides my mobo on like thursday

jaunty sky
#

@humble verge did u do the bee quest

humble verge
#

to bee or not to bee?

#

what quest

jaunty sky
#

Ecological succession

humble verge
#

idk what that is

#

sorry

jaunty sky
#

New karesh weekly for mounts and pets and some rep

humble verge
#

oh

#

i havent been in karesh all week tbf

jaunty sky
#

Super short questline

humble verge
#

besides wednesday