assassination

[slim hamlet]

yea ok it was generally what I had in mind then

[balmy condor]

wdym

[grim jay]

Eleem said bcs you get so much mainstat rn with prism for example

[balmy condor]

what secondary ones

[royal lantern]

weapon enchants

[balmy condor]

oh

yeah

secondary stats get better as an expansion progresses

and most people probably don't have jack fuck for crit

[royal lantern]

was a bit suprised that its over 1% better for me

[slim hamlet]

we did that in 10.2 too 99% sure

[balmy condor]

so fatebound is starving

begging for crit

I had to go double crit weapon enchatnts

[cursive hatch]

I don't miss all my damage being hoping a PB proc happens

[balmy condor]

it is what it is

[slim hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/lets-go-gambling-gif-3937562841362806777

[royal lantern]

its 1x crit 1x mastery for me

idk

sim spoke

i listen

[balmy condor]

yah that's fine too

I probably just update guide to 2x crit

[royal lantern]

good thing my 63 deepths enchants sold on day 1

[clever sparrow]

ok whats best craft option?

dagger is the way?

with ascendance?

[royal lantern]

yes

[limber swallow]

@balmy condor do you know how things like Signet of the Priory sim in relation to others in the party with the trinket?

[balmy condor]

it's item per item basis

signet secondary effect is so dogass weak that they never put it into the sims I think

[marsh fjord]

Weird tho I did a sim and see if I wanted the crit enchants and mine still wanted depths instead of crit

And I got around 28% crit

[limber swallow]

got it, thanks

[buoyant herald]

i just simmed for replacing radiant power with crit enchants and it was a 1% increase which is kinda decent for weapon enchants tbh

and that's off a 12.5k crit base so not exactly starving

[marsh fjord]

So weird that everyone want crit enchants but I don’t

[clever sparrow]

does off-hand dagger matter?

[buoyant herald]

off hand is literally your least important slot

unless it's your embellishment dagger or something

[clever sparrow]

lol

[balmy condor]

I mean for fatebound that is pretty starving

how much mastery do you have

[buoyant herald]

18k ish

[balmy condor]

yeah

so fatebound

wants the opposite

[buoyant herald]

still living in the past

[marsh fjord]

So what if you swap back to DS you swapping enchants again?

[edgy solstice]

Hello everyone, which 2 poisons do I need to use for m+?

[buoyant herald]

nah, rather optimise for raid while we prog, only doing weekly keys so who cares

[marsh fjord]

Yeah but you also play DS in raid bro

[royal lantern]

mate

[void gazelle]

!waist

[royal lantern]

enchants differences are like 1%

that shit barely matters

you wont swap enchants for a fight-to-fight basis lol

[void gazelle]

!belt

[buoyant herald]

only on a couple

[royal lantern]

you sim it

probs higher level heroic waists will replace it

[marsh fjord]

I get that. I feel like if you prog a boss for weeks oh mythic

You can swap

[royal lantern]

yeha, sure i gues

[jaunty violet]

this new build we Multi and only fan of knives when i get clear of witness?

[thorn thorn]

@fallow canopy

[atomic cape]

Yo, gonna try Sin in M+ for the first time in 2 seasons. Any major changes I should be aware of?

[umbral sierra]

!energy

[prisma monolith]

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. As a burst spec our damage is mainly loaded into Deathmark/Shiv and massive Envenoms through stacking multiple nature damage buffs such as Lingering Darkness, Shiv, Darkest Night, Amplifying Poison, and more. This comes with the natural downside of our damage suffering outside of these windows, in part due to the designed lack of energy slowing us down.

Because of this, there is only one minor (0.3%) min-max with energy, which is pooling 3-4 seconds into an upcoming Kingsbane. Ideally this would put you at around 50-60% energy before you enter your Kingsbane, which is more than enough energy alongside thistle tea. Outside of that, spam Envenom and just accept that you will run out of energy. There is nothing you can do to not run out of energy. Playing around Envenom uptime also is not relevant anymore, as Twist the knife allows for two stacks at a time, which reduces wasted uptime dramatically. Without twist the knife, wasting uptime is unavoidable.

[midnight atlas]

when are we shutting down rogue discord to get some buffs?

[buoyant herald]

we're not because (surprisingly) we're not that cringe

[midnight atlas]

well never inviting a ret paladin in my group ever

[jaunty violet]

?

[hexed root]

we're eating good

[marsh fjord]

@buoyant herald

You sim it like this right?

[buoyant herald]

yep

[marsh fjord]

yeah it tells me to stay with depths

for some reason

[buoyant herald]

i threw in stonebound artistry too just in case

you're def simming patchwerk?

[marsh fjord]

yes

here wait

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/3xBL8C4iSM8UoPAmjfjHLM @buoyant herald

[hallow bough]

When you're doing your aoe rotation, especially in the opener so to speak, do we just send whatever combo points on the ruptures?

And crimson tempest?

Or always full cp

[marsh fjord]

You send on 5+ CP

[jaunty violet]

when should we use fan of knives?? in this build

with no kings bane

[amber stream]

protest for buffs xD

[main bridge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/695190524927148042/1406026799976022156/NERF_BAT_SUCCESSFULLY_DODGED.png?ex=68a0f7ff&is=689fa67f&hm=07ab367c0629af1d73b0536daf3b7f05e22264e96cb7a41d69936e0f67915d8f&

[royal lantern]

if you guys think those buffs happend because of the pathetic outrage, idk man

they where allready planned

[buoyant herald]

oh dude you need to tick the "replace existing gems/enchants" box

[marsh fjord]

oh wait

[umbral sierra]

link to post

[midnight atlas]

go wowhead its last post

[thorn thorn]

Not until this happens

[midnight atlas]

the audacity

[winged sun]

Desperate for attention 💀

[half dawn]

Ayo can somone link me the blacklist addon

[royal lantern]

blacklist addon

yikes

[half dawn]

tank pulling 1 mob at a time in +2 hoa

[royal lantern]

my brother in christ, its a +2

[half dawn]

1 mob

sorry

we pull 2nd mob

when the first mob is on 2% hp

[royal lantern]

why do you go into a +2 and expect good gameplay, let lower level players do their content lol

[vapid terrace]

!plater

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[half dawn]

i hate low keys

idek im doing this key

[jaunty violet]

when do you shiv?

[normal mist]

depends

[royal lantern]

same as always, nothing changed?

[normal mist]

he might be new

[marsh fjord]

!guide @jaunty violet

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[half dawn]

do you send shiv on CD both ST and AOE and only hold it to have 2 charges when DM is coming up

[keen spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-smash-wood-playing-gif-17749007

[thorn thorn]

This must be that shaman that told my new rogue player to do heroic dungeons to learn to play

[shy creek]

paladin buffs

guys can we shut down the assa rogue discord

we also need a buff i think

[gusty stag]

Guys any of you running floodgate for items experience only getting the trinket to drop? Ive done 20 floodgates and i got 8x seaforium. It's starting to get a little sus.. No other drops seen for rogue (Assa lootspec)

[heavy jolt]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[vapid terrace]

rng

[buoyant pilot]

I've just done it 4x can confirm it doesn't drop

[buoyant herald]

DS wants mastery enchants more so i'll probably just change belt setting to mastery instead of critchain and call that good enough

[mint urchin]

Enjoy your trinkets at least, I'm not getting drops period. Oh right I did get a belt... yay

[buoyant herald]

bro i've had soo much loot dropping for me its crazy

[gusty stag]

Yeah Im not complaining just really curious as 8 trinkets in 20 dungeons seems a little weird..

[buoyant herald]

2-6 keys

every time

loot loot loot

7+? nothing yet

[peak helm]

Best way to sim gear choices for M+ vs gear choices for single target? Is dungeon slice effective for assa? Should I just do patchwork with 5 bosses instead? What's best for assa

[buoyant herald]

dslice

is good for rogue

[peak helm]

word

[vapid terrace]

how do i get deathstalkers mark to be more obvious when in a big pack? ideally it changes that one healthbar to an obvious color or flashes or something but i havent messed with any profiles

[buoyant herald]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[buoyant herald]

whispyr's plater does a good job of that

[vapid terrace]

maybe i have something else thats hiding it?

[fallow canopy]

[balmy condor]

it's the white one

[vapid terrace]

for some reason i am seeing 2 separate #s on there? you can see yellow seconds and white seconds, trying to figure out what addon or something is giving that

[balmy condor]

yeah that's something on your end with double addons

omnicc?

[modern harbor]

guys .. do we keep old tierset until we have the new 4 set complete? or we just swap at 2 new and 2 old pieces

[balmy condor]

pins

[modern harbor]

ty

[cloud pike]

Whispyr has the patience of a saint

[vapid terrace]

omnicc was exactly it, so that problem is fixed

[astral nymph]

!WA

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[modern harbor]

right now watching your 4h assa video great job Whispyr thx for sharing this information . gl to you all

[balmy condor]

I am clairvoyant

[astral nymph]

link video

[cyan lily]

Pls

[vapid terrace]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZXEXxFABJM

[gaunt sigil]

Is 128% mastery too much

I just want my bleeds to do more damage

feelcrafting

[balmy condor]

perhaps slightly

[marsh fjord]

@buoyant herald yeah it told me to go crit also. 1.3% increase LOL

[buoyant herald]

yeah about the same for me, seems good, but yeah DS is wanting me to reenchant mastery so its whatever

[marsh fjord]

Checking wat DS is telling.

[buoyant herald]

i think i can probably tell you lol

[marsh fjord]

haha you prob can

but want to see the sim 😄

[cursive hatch]

i've been playing in my sub gear (besides a minor ring swap). Should probably update my enchants again lol

[viral aurora]

we doing the same embellishments as last season!?

[royal lantern]

yes

[peak bobcat]

the dagger craft with embellishment is inevitable

dont run from it

[woeful galleon]

is pacemaker sim bait

[balmy condor]

no

sim bait for things just simming the way they are

[woeful galleon]

is it better than empowering crystal?

[balmy condor]

does it sim higher than empowering crystal for you? then it's better

[woeful galleon]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/42zt7BYLM4AKW8scf2xkMB

[peak bobcat]

the pacemaker is slightly better

congratulations

[balmy condor]

it's actually fully equal

they're identical

[marsh fjord]

brothers its 0.1%

XDDDDDDDDD

[balmy condor]

that is not better

[celest drift]

is the tier set a lot of our damage coming from season 2 tier?

[balmy condor]

yes

[celest drift]

thanks

[peak bobcat]

take your .1% dps and like it

[balmy condor]

its not 0.1% dps

it's equal.

[woeful galleon]

but u gotta burst whenever pacemaker procs right

[balmy condor]

what

[keen spruce]

take your margin of error and like it

[balmy condor]

pacemaker is 50% uptime

how are you gonna burst for half a key

[keen spruce]

to be fair

[woeful galleon]

thats not what i mean

[keen spruce]

it would be a good tirnket

if it let you burst half of the key

[balmy condor]

idk what you mean then

lily is your on-use with your burst

[woeful galleon]

like I cant deathmark if its not up

[balmy condor]

why not?

[zenith elm]

you absolutely can lol

[buoyant herald]

yeah delaying your major CD is definitely worth it to wait for a 3k crit proc

[woeful galleon]

maybe i dont listen to my veng dh friend

[balmy condor]

xd

[buoyant herald]

ok i think we've discovered the root of the issue here

[marsh fjord]

Never listen to anyone

[thorn thorn]

Are they an actual vdh player or fotm vdh

[raw marlin]

What’s the difference at this point

[half dawn]

worth to catalyst 1 champ piece for 2+2?

[marsh fjord]

@buoyant herald even in DS my sim wants crit enchants 😄

[candid sun]

Temu rogue giving og rogue tips

[raw marlin]

They’ve been fotm for 5 xpacs

[raw marlin]

Wait for hero

[marsh fjord]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/3Ue42nvxRFXfixFxGLrPGG

[raw marlin]

Mine wants haste and mastery lol

[buoyant herald]

i do have a suspicion that it's pushing mastery so heavily because it's wanting priory signet to guarantee mastery

idk it's not that important but yeah just going crit then stopping thinking about it

[marsh fjord]

i do have 21k mastery tho

[buoyant herald]

could be it

[brazen oasis]

it makes no difference if its hero or normal piece since you dont dump any mythic crest in hc items

[indigo epoch]

lily still good for m+ as deathstalker or should I only use it w/ fb 4/set for raid?

[woven trout]

!gear

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1405681489470951594/sin_.webp

[iron carbon]

@balmy condor I think you should update the rotation part in the wowhead guide, I think it's not clear for new players. Like adding set rotation update and stuff. For example, it says to use shiv before and after KB but we can't with tier set. Also no line for vanish use after the opener. What do you think?

[balmy condor]

PSA: Sim Your Enchants

Fatebound wants more crit than you probably have. Again

YOU PROBABLY DO NOT HAVE NEARLY ENOUGH CRIT FOR FATEBOUND

The guide has been updated to account for some trends being seen, but you should consider simming/using the following:

1. Algari Mana Oil (about 0.2% better than stones)
2. Council's Guilde (Weapon Enchant, this can be giga, sim it)
3. Crit Gems/Crit Fiber for Reshii Wraps (this is a huge source of crit you can get basically insantly)
4. Crit Ring Enchants (NOT cursed. Cursed should be avoided generally)

[raw marlin]

Well it does. Cause it’s hero.

And more ilvl

[marsh fjord]

GOAT!!

[balmy condor]

?

[iron carbon]

I'm stupid

Was looking to low

[raw marlin]

My crit is 43%.

[marsh fjord]

ngl i would crash out on you

if you said that

to me

😄

[brazen oasis]

no, you can upgrade both to 704 without spending any mythic crest, since you dont want to dump them in there anyway

[raw marlin]

My crit is 43%

[iron carbon]

Didn't see I was in AoE part. Sorry for bothering, I guess I need some sleep

[raw marlin]

Less valor. Less other shit runes. Looks sexier

[marsh fjord]

lol

[raw marlin]

No idea what councils guilde is though

[cursive hatch]

guile*

[raw marlin]

But my crit is 43%

[cursive hatch]

its the crit proc enchant

[raw marlin]

When you actually craft the dagger?

[marsh fjord]

No. its a enchant

like depths

[raw marlin]

Oh so I’d have more than 43% crit?

[marsh fjord]

sim yourself

brother

[raw marlin]

44%?

[brazen oasis]

if you stick with assa, you craft dagger asp

[raw marlin]

Not at my oc lol

Pc.

Hence all the typos

[iron carbon]

And line 7 should be 1.5 min and there should be a shiv for last 8sec of solo kb, no?

[smoky helm]

!plater

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[balmy condor]

sure yeah

I mean you gotta use a little bit of brain I guess

[marsh fjord]

[iron carbon]

Sure, mine is already hald dead right now. But I was thinking for really new assa players

[marsh fjord]

I really dont think whisypr can be anymore clearer in his guide

people just have to ask qeustions

[iron carbon]

I'm sure some are gonna keep shiv only for DM

And sit on a stack

[thorn thorn]

They probably will

[iron carbon]

Some people are shy and won't come on discord to ask

[thorn thorn]

But if every situation accounting for new players is added the guide just gets overbloated

[iron carbon]

You prolly right

[cursive hatch]

I also guarantee most people are going to lose more dps overthinking their buttons in every situation instead of just doing what works 95% of the time

[wintry kiln]

General rule of bleed build in m+ on aoe is like spam a couple garrotes get atleast 5 rupture but not much more then just go into envenom spamming right?

ofc this includes pressing shiv etc

[marsh fjord]

CT after ruptures. then 1 mutilate. then DM + Shiv

and shiv 11 seconds later or 8 seconds if you dont have tier set yet

[iron carbon]

You rupture every efficient target

[wintry kiln]

Yea but having 15 ruptures up is just more upkeep than dps no?

there has to be a cap

[cursive hatch]

new sudden demise high score, that mite never saw it coming

[wintry kiln]

Where splatter envenom is just more efficent

[real pike]

Does this work both ways i.e. making the changes for more crit will make Deathstalker weaker to an equal degree? Or does FB care more about secondaries than DS does?

[iron carbon]

The build doesn't buff enevnom enough to be really that big

[vestal geyser]

@balmy condor just to clarify, on fatebound the opener uses 2 casts of thistle tea right? are we doing that purely for the buff

[humble verge]

we finally decided and bought a new PC

https://tenor.com/view/333-gif-16633742758176803867

[marsh fjord]

So now you can start reading guides you say?

LETSGOOOOOOOOO

[humble verge]

what are these "guides"

[deep breach]

anyone got a mouseover of their overall dps for a dungeon. just want to compare to see im on the right track lol

[cursive hatch]

no guides just vibes

[humble verge]

https://tenor.com/view/glorp-noted-glorp-noted-glorp-noting-this-down-alien-cat-gif-11958671377507601335

[wintry kiln]

i ordetrd one yday too 😌 finallt will be above 40 fps in 10+ pulls soon 😖😖

[cursive hatch]

+6 EDA I just ran. Low key but that just means sudden demise is higher than normal mostly

[iron carbon]

2p + 2p

[wintry kiln]

Rough on the eyes having bad fps xD

[humble verge]

when i got 3 fps on Araz in last phase

i decided

it wasnt worth still using this 9yo pc

[deep breach]

appreciate it 🙂 looks like im doing it the same. although my caustic spatter needs to be applied quicker from what i can see

[iron carbon]

Oh you wanted the details of the details?

[marsh fjord]

@balmy condor if you would run a droptimizer and you looking at rings is there a way to see in the sim to see what rings its replacing it with?

[cursive hatch]

it should say ring 1/2

[wintry kiln]

Yea i probably isnt too good on using ct maybe, struggling being consistent high dps on pulls and ending dungeon on high damage done

[deep breach]

yeah was just seeing if my dmg breakdown was similar. 🙂

[marsh fjord]

CT does a lot of damage. you gotta press it bro

[waxen oyster]

Man

17 stack tails opener

i hecking love fatebound

[iron carbon]

Yeah, I realize my answer is useless for you ahaha

[waxen oyster]

(die shit spec)

[marsh fjord]

i had the same yesterday

actually fucking bonkers

[modern harbor]

btw. the "cursed stone idol" - trinket is simming like crazy.. its simming higher then "unyielding netherprism" but i kinda dont trust this xD

[cursive hatch]

you weren't joking about FB sin wanting crit. I think I forgot to toggle the ring enchants because it would also want that

[deep breach]

haha all good. thanks anyways

[waxen oyster]

on average i lose my streak as soon as the edge case flips end

[balmy condor]

I don't understand what this means, deathstalker is mast>crit and fatebound is crit>mast

[balmy condor]

macro to shiv

[balmy condor]

it says finger 1 or finger 2

[balmy condor]

a crit trinket you say.......

that's why I just made the pin

[iron carbon]

Got it from an HoA +9 2p+2p if you want

[real pike]

Does DS need mast as much as FB needs crit? If I lean more towards crit and I get for example a 50k dps increase on FB, would I expect to see approx 50k dps loss on DS?

Sorry I'm not good at phrasing my questions

[balmy condor]

oh

I have no fucking clue lmao

[modern harbor]

ah yeah but i simmed deathstalker..thats why i am confused

[balmy condor]

I'm pretty sure you gain more on fb than you lose on ds

[deep breach]

thanks. looks like im about on track lol

[balmy condor]

link the sim

[real pike]

Wonderful thank you sir

[cursive hatch]

depends on content you are primarily focused on I suppose, but I think it'll be small gains/losses overall between them

[wintry kiln]

yeah i know.. gotta get more consistent then we flying

[modern harbor]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/eFvS2NcsMxdYbpLPAWFgoh

its a 1 min 6 targets sim.. was looking for mythic+ numbers.. not sure if this is even accurate simming by my side ^^

[balmy condor]

💀

[marsh fjord]

Your better off simming dungeon slice.

[modern harbor]

i thought dungeon slice is scuffed

[balmy condor]

dungeonslice is our go to sim for nearly a decade

but regardless of that

if you sim a 1 min sim right

and you're comparing cursed idol

to netherprism

and netherprism is a trinket that need to stack

[marsh fjord]

💀

[balmy condor]

and takes 3 minutes to stack

[marsh fjord]

hahahaha

[balmy condor]

you don't see the issue?

[modern harbor]

yes you are right of course

i am soorrryy 😄

i am just bad in simming

i will try the dungeon slice now

[wintry kiln]

Re do sim on 5 min we gotta kno

[iron carbon]

Found another one a pug logged, flood 10+
So you can make your idea

And I go to sleep, my brain dying. Good night ppl

[wintry kiln]

whats ur ovrl dmg on that key

[humble verge]

is netherprism any good for us? would we even get enough stacks between each DM for it to be worth in m+? i havent really seen it been used yet ofcourse since were on day 3/4

[jaunty sky]

12 stacks on DS, 9 stacks on FB

[humble verge]

i know you have listed it as an alt-trinket

[humble verge]

hm alright

doesnt sound that bad but

[jaunty sky]

Well you lose one use on pull

[iron carbon]

7M on this one and I see tank wiped us twice.

[humble verge]

12 stacks is 44232 agil

[jaunty sky]

But in m+ it gives more leeway with DM timings

[humble verge]

9 is 33174

*at max ilvl

all in all

it would probably? be on par with forge

besides you wouldnt have the crit stick from that

ofcourse if you delay your DM to do a big pull in an m+

it would be a bit more value

[silk sundial]

I got a champ warbound prism last night.
Current trinkets are 684 pace and 691 lily.
Prism sims lower than same ilvl lily, at least for me at the moment

[jaunty sky]

In raid very close or forge better, in m+ prism is better bc its more flexible imo

[humble verge]

yeah

prism will sim lower than lily

[jaunty sky]

Yeah cause the sim is 5mins and the dungeon run is 20min+

[wintry kiln]

fukin hell

[tardy granite]

is it normal that my sim tell me to go with 2k crit ? 😄

[humble verge]

im surprised signet is in B tier

and lily A

but

then again, lily gives 500 more mastery at max ilvl

at a lower ilvl the diffference is minimal

[gusty stag]

signet 20 sec lily 15

better for windows but yeah

[jaunty sky]

Lily doesnt fuck with your stats either

[humble verge]

oh thats true actually

[tired yacht]

why do we vanish after kingsbane even without improved gar? somebody help pls 😄

[lunar pond]

Coins

[jaunty sky]

On fatebound? Flips more coins

Edge case

[pliant remnant]

https://youtu.be/Uac8wbDSm80?si=hrBKcNTs1Gtmm07v&t=85

Alright, Shadows

When we turning off all the Ravenholdt channels

[balmy condor]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/853474124303171605/1406027988889239653/image.png?ex=68a0f91b&is=689fa79b&hm=35ab357c09fe69a9c4a2098793f68083c3a33f5824852f792680313f2fddc46d&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

the only time I will ever agree

[limpid crane]

Rogue is too weak. Just shut off the discord until we get buffed

[balmy condor]

with a wowhead comment

[gilded bone]

Hello guys, someone has a WA to track how many Garrote/Rupture i have ? Like 3 garrote out of 6 mobs and 6 rupture out of 6 mobs ? please thanks you

[limpid crane]

This reads like a pornhub comment

[balmy condor]

what does that mean

[cerulean walrus]

[tired yacht]

ohh Double Jeopardy is what i was missing, now it makes sense, ty!

[thorn thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/answer-the-question-jfk-clone-high-gif-18737757

[slim hamlet]

I just had a fieldday in pala discord

That was content

[mortal crystal]

!gear

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1405681489470951594/sin_.webp

[thorn thorn]

Did you do some trolling

[modern karma]

?

[slim hamlet]

I mean couldn't resist a little. Not wild shit like most tho

[pliant remnant]

I think he just has this reaction to dark grey background and uhhh...a colour close to orange in the colour spectrum being together

[balmy condor]

what a strange guy

[modern karma]

Obliterate Gooners

[balmy condor]

please don't post your AI slop in here no one cares

[pulsar gulch]

watching your 3hr video whispyr i appreciate your mind getting blown by cinderbrew meadery

[slim hamlet]

meadrybrew cindery?

[pulsar gulch]

some say he is still questioning which way round it should be

[buoyant herald]

more desecration of these sacred halls smh

[balmy condor]

IT MAKES MORE SENSE THE OTHER WAY AROUND I WILL DIE ON THIS HILL

[thorn thorn]

What

[balmy condor]

ITS MEAD

FROM CINDER BEES

CINDERMEAD

MEAD IS BREWED

FIRST BOSS IS A BREW MASTER

CINDERMEAD BREWERY

I WILL NOT BE HEARING ANY COUNTER ARGUMENTS IT SIMPLY MAKES MORE SENSE

[tulip fern]

Cinderbrewmaster confirmed

[buoyant herald]

Piswhyr has a point

[distant birch]

Hey, does anyone have a WA to track the stacks of this trinket?

[lean plover]

most obnoxious conv

ever

fucking paladins i swear

[balmy condor]

damn, proven fact about a class he doesn't play

did he chatgpt it or what

[sterile swallow]

Of course it’s a Paladin.

[fresh kelp]

ret pala named thedestroyey

[lean plover]

tank pulled 1 mob, and at 50% he chained to other pack

[pulsar gulch]

tbh the wiki for meadery says "A meadery is a winery or brewery that produces honey wines or meads"

[lean plover]

i vanish to spread

[pulsar gulch]

i see both sides of this argument

[lean plover]

but apparently thats losing 25% dmg

[severe meadow]

What sparked him to even dm you that

[tulip fern]

Hit him with it’s a dps loss to bring ret paladins

[balmy condor]

tell him you're closing your DMs until he fixes his numbers

[lean plover]

he told tank to stop pulling like he was (good chains btw)

bc i lost dmg

i told him i dont, to just perma chain

and vuolah

[grim jay]

lock our channel until we get a 20% buff so we dont need to restealth, so it cancels out

[ancient rain]

Vuolah

[wind spire]

hi guys... just a short question about the talent build for m+ as newbie. is the m+ build on wowhead old? on raider.io all play with poison bomb. is there a reason for? just stronger? 2p or 4p?

[balmy condor]

I'm locking all assassination channels until Thedestroyey-TarrenMill comes forward and fixes the restealth numbers than only he has

[balmy condor]

bleed build is simply better atm

[grim jay]

[wind spire]

and why play the the top players in m+ atm play with posion then? o.o

[balmy condor]

cause they want to I guess

every fucker on PTR was playing bleed in 20's

[granite tusk]

@balmy condor in your gigaguide y dont Talk about how spatter positioning works, could u explain a bit, please?

[balmy condor]

is it even true that they're playing with poison bomb

[slim hamlet]

but isnt a meadry an actual word

[slim hamlet]

and cinerbrew to show its brew from cinder bees

[balmy condor]

?????????????????????

[granite tusk]

Ty so much, máster ❤️

[balmy condor]

there's like

2 poison bombs here

it's legit bleed all the way down

what are we talking about

[wind spire]

hm i checked only raider.io maybe they have a problem with tracking... thx!

[grim jay]

3 kb

[brave stump]

Surely raider io issue

[balmy condor]

most things that aren't logged only track talents on log-out

[brave stump]

[grim jay]

no because its warcraftlogs

[balmy condor]

like murlok.io

is entirely pointless

they just track stuff on logout

[alpine valve]

does anyone understand this caustic splatter change

[slim hamlet]

Bleed build

[balmy condor]

dogshit ass webpage

[slim hamlet]

Bring back the glory days

[mental thistle]

in m+ does it have a cap to spread garrote and rupture or do I just stop when the IC runs out?

[brave stump]

When assa Homepage?

With a guestbook maybe

[balmy condor]

I haven't seen the data, but I assume it's just to avoid double dipping the spec aura?

[alpine valve]

oh maybe

[split lagoon]

ya that's what it is

[thorn thorn]

Priest man has appeared

[balmy condor]

yah this looks like spec aura, gastank big knowledge haver

[grave trail]

is streets fucked or cursed or something, timed some 12's but perma deplete 10 streets

[grim jay]

hardest key

[grave trail]

if its not the mail boss its the singing boss or the mini boss skip or last boss

[bright turret]

feels like tight timer + convuluted bosses that are real easy to mess up

[grave trail]

u wipe on singing boss haha do all over again

1 min of rp

[lavish kraken]

is there any way to guarantee 7 flips of the same side of the coin in opener for raid? or is it just rng throughout the fight, wowhead not being v helpful abt it

[grave trail]

i think u can only guarantee with 2 *piece, the guide on wowhead has se sequence for opener

the*

[waxen oyster]

You only need 2p, and to do the opener correct

[grave trail]

yeah that 2p then

[arctic tusk]

if we vanish during cold blood do we want to ambush for extra cp?

[cunning scaffold]

Kingsbane with cold blood, vanish while you still have some cold blood left during opener

[granite tusk]

I vanish before envenom

[lavish kraken]

tyvm

[mental thistle]

in m+ does it have a cap to spread garrote and rupture or do I just stop when the IC runs out?

[twin aurora]

craft dagger week 1 is fine ye?

[narrow basalt]

Bleed build is so boring yall, I dont think I'll survive an entire season like this 😭

[balmy condor]

how is it any less boring than hybrid or cleave

do you not like blindside

[narrow basalt]

Idk, I just find it boring 😅

[shy sorrel]

How much haste for bleed

Its like 15-20 isnt it

or am I thinking about Outlaw

[narrow basalt]

I am the type that misses shadowdance kingsbane assasin

[slim hamlet]

KB

[ashen scroll]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[balmy condor]

whatever your sims say

[slim hamlet]

I agree. It might only be one button, but bleed just feels so like dry

[arctic tusk]

you do have the option of picking the hybrid buidl

[slim hamlet]

It feels like a skeleton

[balmy condor]

hybrid is just so shit

[slim hamlet]

(I have no idea what that means)

[balmy condor]

compared to basically everything else you could play

[arctic tusk]

@balmy condor you got a mathematical statistical perfect 100% answer for this question

[slim hamlet]

Yea in numbers apparently

[balmy condor]

it doesn't matter

[slim hamlet]

10.2 was peak m+ for me as assa

[balmy condor]

ambush does nothing on fatebound

[slim hamlet]

shd + kb

[narrow basalt]

YES

[thorn thorn]

A fellow enjoyer

[slim hamlet]

^

[arctic tusk]

also does it matter if u vanish on first or 2nd cold blood stack

[narrow basalt]

[arctic tusk]

!fuu

[slim hamlet]

shadowdance was peak

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[slim hamlet]

although one thing that for sure is better is the 12 sec stealth stuff now

[thorn thorn]

I wouldnt say dance specifically

[balmy condor]

not really but if you macro prism and vanish together you would want to vanish before the shiv-dm-kb

[thorn thorn]

But I liked amirdrassil when KB was actually an ability

[astral current]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[narrow basalt]

actual peak gameplay. the BIG kb hit you got, brought a tear to my eye

[arctic tusk]

otherwise youd trinket after shiv? w/o macro

[slim hamlet]

Yea idk without KB it just feels very dry. Even tho you were pretty much spamming the same shit then, it felt like you were ramping you KB and shit, here its just envenom maxxing

[astral current]

@balmy condor how heavy your WA is?
better than luxthos in terms of cpu usage?

[slim hamlet]

ye also for sure felt better on bosses

[balmy condor]

I think anything is better than luxthos in terms of cpu usage lmao that's a very low bar

[burnt star]

Imo.. any w.a pack is better then luxtos

[astral current]

xd gotcha guys, thx

[narrow basalt]

100% raiding as assa was super duper fun

[burnt star]

For every class

[balmy condor]

yah on dm is fine

[slim hamlet]

Havent raided at all with TWW assa yet so I can't compare

twist the knife stuff looks fun, dry shivving too

[humble verge]

3 rogues ran in LFR

no tier set

at all

no drops for evo/rogue/war/monk

[burnt star]

Ok... i wasnt expecting this after reading pin

[thorn thorn]

Gods intended breakdown, I weep what they took from us

[burnt star]

I had already swap.all.my gem to crit. Didnt bother checking the weapon enchant

Weapon + cloak + ring.. 1.7 %

[north trout]

Out of curiosity does recrafting dagger to 700+ make it cheaper to upgrade offhand hero dagger or is it still 15 crests per upgrade

[slim hamlet]

I got something better in a moment

I might have lied

I thought for sure KB was top dmg on Nymue 🥀

[thorn thorn]

We should close off Ravenholdt until KB is buffed back to being like that

[slim hamlet]

It was just so peak

Imagine 10.2 KB with 45 sec fatebound cd

[narrow basalt]

but do you not miss kb when ur playing assa?

[slim hamlet]

Closer

[thorn thorn]

Specifically I miss KB when it was stronger than it currently is

[lavish kraken]

why do guides say to go shiv > kingsbane rather than kingsbane > shiv

[fresh kelp]

kb kinda does a lot of damage on fatebound tho

[slim hamlet]

Honestly for m+ I dont mind if its not as strong as 10.2 since we have deathstalker too for prio dmg. I just want to play it without knowing I do way less dmg than bleed

[bright turret]

kb flips coins and shiv buffs the damage coins

assuming tier

[lavish kraken]

ta

[slim hamlet]

But one way to cope with KB being worse is that thank god, we dont have to be PI target anymore

🙏

[balmy condor]

no

[pulsar plank]

is this normal on Dawnbreaker?

+10

no pc

[granite escarp]

what stats we stacking?

mast?

[pulsar plank]

yeah

[slim hamlet]

yo if that is normal I am dogshit

[stable sinew]

I don’t think so

[slim hamlet]

isnt that massive rupture

[grim jay]

(I know you do, but its alright if you tell yourself that you dont to cope with it)

[proven willow]

mine looks way diff than that lol

[grim jay]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Signet of the Priory will require you have Mastery as your highest RATING (the actual number, not the %). Having Crit and Mastery close to one another will cause procs from Flask or Seaforium Pacemaker to cause your Signet to give you Crit. This is generally worse and will cause Signet to sim poorly.
• Compared to each other, Deathstalker wants more Mastery/Haste than Fatebound, and Fatebound wants more Crit than Deathstalker
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[pulsar plank]

bosses took so long tho

[grim jay]

no thats pretty wrong

tbh

[slim hamlet]

Wouldnt that make rup do even less

[granite escarp]

ahh crit

[narrow basalt]

I see

[red schooner]

Doing Tazavesh Streets blind on a +10 was... a choice.

[slim hamlet]

oh wait I was looking at crit percentage as if it was the damage share

[pulsar plank]

I dont think I misplayed tho didnt miss single caustic spatter

[grim jay]

well caustic spatter isnt the main point

your ct is way too low

[dark thorn]

!plater

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[stable sinew]

What was the OVR

[proven willow]

are you doing 12-18mil on aoe pulls in dawn

[pulsar plank]

peaked 15m I think

[desert vault]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[proven willow]

your overall is diff from any that ive seen

but unless u show footage its impossible to know what youre doing wrong

[pulsar plank]

other 2 dps's were blaster tho 696 gear both with 4pc

[proven willow]

casualaddict has a youtube vid of a few keys

see if u do what he does

[worn badger]

yay first 12.0 internal servers are showing up ( still encrypted)

i dont know why that replied to you heh

[dreamy rover]

HELLO

[slim hamlet]

hi

[hexed root]

!loot

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1405681489470951594/sin_.webp

[spring token]

Hey guys is there something i have to keep in mind around caustic spatter ?

[slim hamlet]

What do you mean?

Besides applying it and hitting the target with it applied

[worn badger]

it has to be to do damage ?

be on to do..

[slim hamlet]

to do or not to be?

[worn badger]

shakespear was a sub rogue =/

[slim hamlet]

did he use shadowdust when it existed?

[spring token]

on dummies i cant really get it to be most dmg its always behind tempest and sanguins blade

[worn badger]

i sold it to him

[slim hamlet]

It should be behind

[worn badger]

i still have original poisons in my bank..

[slim hamlet]

[spring token]

ah okay was curious saw shindigs streams and it was the most dmg so i assumed it has to be ^^

thanks

[worn badger]

yeah im old =/

[pulsar plank]

Also this is hoa. I think this looks good I didnt change my gameplay on dawnbreaker I have no idea how that piece of shit came out on dawnbreaker

[spring token]

ah yeah like that lol

[slim hamlet]

There is a universe where I am wrong for sure, but with bleed build besides some niche ass situations it should not be top right?

[grim jay]

no, not even on niche situations

[dreamy rover]

Is dungeon slice still good for sin?

[slim hamlet]

Only time I can think of it being very high is like on 2nd boss HoA if you just passive kill all the adds with spatter. But you are also using CT then for funnel so sounds sus

[grim jay]

unless you read a big fat pin about it or something

it will never not be your best option

[dreamy rover]

💯

tyvm @grim jay

[slim hamlet]

tbf I often see other specs saying dungeon slice isnt optimal

or well

u need to ask to be sure and then they say no

[grim jay]

other classes, potentially

but for rogue dslice is maintained

[slim hamlet]

rogue just goated like that

[dreamy rover]

Yhea, for example arcane mages (or any mage) doesnt work well with dslice

thats why i asked, wasnt sure about sin

i usually sub

[slim hamlet]

I think it was havoc that has optimal way of simming for dungeons being like 10 different individual sims

I simply aint doing allat

[dreamy rover]

simming 10 times with different target counts lmao

[slim hamlet]

even with premium raidbots I aint doing that many

a ST one and maybe, 5 and 8 at best

[dreamy rover]

yhea fuck that, when i do 4 sims for 2 specs and st/aoe i already get pissed

[clever sparrow]

rogue is fun AF

i found out i was trash

[slim hamlet]

gang do I get midnight cereal or cold pizza

[clever sparrow]

and now im a bit less trash

[slim hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-of-wall-street-jordan-belfort-leonardo-di-caprio-one-of-us-jonah-hill-gif-5441859

[clever sparrow]

how much is good overall dps btw in floodgate

[keen mist]

@balmy condor can you lock down server so we get buffed

[slim hamlet]

This meme will exist for years for sure

[balmy condor]

on it chief

[grave sandal]

when we protesting

[slim hamlet]

depends on key level, build, party comp, route

[clever sparrow]

HMM

[slim hamlet]

also when u actually tell me that I still cant tell you

just so u dont get your hopes up

But maybe someone else can

[noble ridge]

Dont open it back up till they hit double digits 🤧

[clever sparrow]

i dont know if im doing good or not actualy

[covert elbow]

Can anyone suggest a solid UI makeover? As in a complete overall that's intended specifically for rogues? I don't want to clear my addons folder until I have a general idea

[clever sparrow]

im always top dps but it feels like raceing with ppl without legs

[jaunty violet]

what M+ talents should i use

[clever sparrow]

idk maybe ppl are bad

[analog field]

lol my sim wants cloak weapons and rings all crit xd

[thorn thorn]

Surely its because I am charismatic

[slim hamlet]

idk if anyone made a FULL ui for rogue specifically, but atrocity got good baseline elvui, whispyr and others got good weakaura package for rogue with !wa

also atrocity is paywalled

[thorn thorn]

Look at me (profile pic)

I am clearly one to have a conversation with

[slim hamlet]

I always saw the eyes as blush and the eyebrows as small eyes

[covert elbow]

Sweet! Thanks for the reply. I'll check 'em out. Just want to keep it simple

[grim jay]

Can tell you im at around 8m with pugs in farm keys

If that helps you

[slim hamlet]

hmm well atrocity is elvui if you aren't familiar, it can be quite complicated

[clever sparrow]

8... mil???.... overall???

[grim jay]

Ye

[clever sparrow]

what are you? Steroids?

cause im dealing

LOW AF

then..

[slim hamlet]

Quazii also has pretty good full UI, he has both elvui and standard version

[thorn thorn]

[covert elbow]

I run elvui now and adjust it as needed, but not that much. Just kind of move 'em around and call it a day

[static glacier]

you needed to wait like 1 week to tell people to start considering more crit for FB, people legit didn't know smh. 10 sandbags have left the boat.

[slim hamlet]

Yea its the way

[clever sparrow]

time to read more guides

[slim hamlet]

I had atrocity as baseline but changed pretty much everything to my ideal by now

[grim jay]

Im pretty much done with gear thats not raidstuff. Close to 701 on every piece, 4p and crafted 720 weapon

[clever sparrow]

HMMM i dont think that would make that much dmg so im basicaly lossing dps cause im still bad

what should i look for in logs?

[grim jay]

Honestly no clue, I dont do m+ logs

[slim hamlet]

One thing I saw often in DF for assa rogues in dungeons was not keeping at least 5 ruptures for scent of blood up in aoe

Thats one thing

[covert elbow]

Have a screenshot? 😄

[clever sparrow]

today i was trying to fix it so i dont think if it was the problem

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/RJ683Z2Dnr1xkBV7?fight=1&type=summary&source=1

[slim hamlet]

sure let me see if I can find a screenshot

[clever sparrow]

in case anyone have time to look at this abomination

[fathom flax]

yo ret shut down their dissy and got a buff can we try that

could work

[clever sparrow]

may i ask which build you play?

are you default bleed?

if yes how you have good dmg on bosses

[slim hamlet]

Only got this from in combat, changed a bit since then but you get the idea, some things different since it's random timewalking dungeon and not m+ too. Pretty standard modern UI. Plater is what really matters for assa imo

Also havent sat up omnicd or interrupt tracker yet

[grim jay]

Default bleed yes. Half of floodgate bosses arent singletarget, but on the purely ST bosses I am at around 3m

[spice surge]

Dont have singletarget, get your tank to pull mobs ontop of them

[clever sparrow]

💀

[analog field]

these healthbars are elvui or sth else?

[clever sparrow]

imagine doing it in a pug 💀

[covert elbow]

are those your buttons in the bottom center or a weak aura?? I wanna reduce all my clutter

[slim hamlet]

nameplates are my platers

and quaziis colours yoinked

[analog field]

sorry meant the party frames

[slim hamlet]

my actual keybinded bars are hidden, the middle is my own weakaura

[covert elbow]

Oh wow. I don't have all my buttons memorized like that lol

[slim hamlet]

elvui. I dont actually prefer elvui, but havent played healer yet since I began playing again so haven't been asked to change it

I prefer grid2 or Cell

[analog field]

i like yours but they are different from mine, like mine are more rough probably an option. I ll check it

[clever sparrow]

whats best way to improve?

[sudden brook]

How bad is crit for aoe bleed build

[slim hamlet]

You can quick unhide them, I do that when I try new specs

[spice surge]

Not bad

[clever sparrow]

not bad

[analog field]

running sim for dungeon slice now let's see

[grim jay]

Double checking with the guide and probably doing small reviews of what you did

[slim hamlet]

The only thing I did for healthbars was add role icon, change size and position and change absorbtion shield colours. Otherwise those are fully from atrocity

With the debuff/buff/dispell stuff and such

[marble wadi]

is no garrote viable in 10s with 2 2/4 set pieces

[proven willow]

25% crit is good for bleed build

[sudden brook]

What about for deathstalker

Kind of a pain in the ass setting this spec up for raid

With multiple fights being DS and multiple being FB

[spice surge]

Kinda just doesnt matter what stats you have

[proven willow]

this is the easiest class for raiding and m+

1 button difference

[spice surge]

Whispyr unironically sent crafts without missive all expac

[twin aurora]

how u guys sim for m+?

[slim hamlet]

Underrated thing about assa rogue is how much stats just havent mattered in all the time i played it

[grim jay]

Dungeonslice, only relevant sim

[slim hamlet]

compared to other classes

[grim jay]

Its pretty good. Can just gear for sub and throw in some haste here and there

And the Sims are happy

[slim hamlet]

Yur

idk if bloodmallet is actually updated but just checked secondary distributions

absolute worst case for stats u are still doing 89% of max dmg

I massively lied, 84.6%

[cyan lily]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[static glacier]

I think hitting these worst case scenarios isnt realistic since tier has pretty spread stats

hard to go 10/10/10/70

[slim hamlet]

Yea thats the point

u cant even get worst case even if u try

[dreamy rover]

dslice so goated....

my mom just allowed me to buy raidbots guys

💀

[slim hamlet]

big

-3 euro a month

[dreamy rover]

-10 lmao

[slim hamlet]

u buying the super duper op version?

[dreamy rover]

premium with fastsim

[slim hamlet]

aint no one doing that

[dreamy rover]

*quicksim actually

[slim hamlet]

I only had once where the 3 euro version wasnt enough

[dreamy rover]

yhea im kinda r word

[slim hamlet]

and it was when we were memeing trying to find the worst possible build I think

[slim hamlet]

massive sticker, thanks for showing

[static glacier]

you guys dont have infinite friends who pay for it?

[sacred cedar]

is it fb or ds for raid

[formal pewter]

lily of eternal weave over signet?

[sacred cedar]

[slim hamlet]

My guild does I think but I cba figuring out how that works so I just pay

[dreamy rover]

lol

[static glacier]

you put their login details in, thats it

bruh

[dreamy rover]

I had until I they changed password

And I left guild

[slim hamlet]

that is way too complicated

[dreamy rover]

but I bought it now so fuck it

[static glacier]

[slim hamlet]

and then they can like see when I am making 20 sims with the worst possible builds

[static glacier]

living up to your name, respect

[slim hamlet]

I need privacy

[slim hamlet]

[keen spruce]

too much blue name in here

[slim hamlet]

on ST FB but will probably depend on boss

[slim hamlet]

[dreamy rover]

sin just too good.... fuck can I do about it

[robust pulsar]

!gear

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1405681489470951594/sin_.webp

[sudden brook]

Sin is probably the best raid melee DPS

its why I'm here

[slim hamlet]

You know we cranking when Guy is here

[dreamy rover]

LMAO

[slim hamlet]

Only other time I remember seeing you here was 10.2 start

[dreamy rover]

when fuu shows up in the sin chat you know shit is good

[slim hamlet]

Fuu vibes sometimes

[royal lantern]

? fuu is here often lol

[dreamy rover]

uhhhh my bad

[slim hamlet]

He is cheating on you guys

[dreamy rover]

thought we has a sub truther

[dreamy rover]

yhea... just got heartbroken.

[unkempt scaffold]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[hexed root]

was at 8.2 overall going into second boss floodgate 10

[clever sparrow]

WAIT DOES KINGSBANE DPS SPREADS WITH CAUSTIC?

[spice surge]

It does

[jaunty sky]

Did u try it on forge and dimensius?

[clever sparrow]

damn

[balmy condor]

I'm glad you're here mr infinitelad

[keen spruce]

shieda read the damn guide

[clever sparrow]

IM READING IT THATS WHY I ASKED IT

[keen mist]

rwf without rogue guys, close up the discord

[clever sparrow]

I WAS LIKE WADAAAFAAAAAK 👍😂

[royal lantern]

outlaws never beating the yellow name memes

[clever sparrow]

i used to play outlaw in S2

i rerolled assa

but still braining like an outlaw

[sudden brook]

I just play the fun spec

Sin is fun (And broken)

[royal lantern]

ye, it will get put down

idk

[balmy condor]

I hereby will be closing all assassination channels until VSpeed-TarrenMill is in my bed oiled up surrounded by a ring of rose petals, and we will accept nothing less

[round vapor]

!macros

[royal lantern]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[royal lantern]

thats all

[marsh fjord]

telling your latina girlfriend

[balmy condor]

she can watch

[sudden brook]

Shut the fuck up

[slim hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/neppico-gif-13773805944528848311

[royal lantern]

i think you are just happy that for the first time in like 40 years its not "play sub for the first month"

[sly yoke]

https://i.imgur.com/IEzXBuT.png

[royal lantern]

until it is

[royal lantern]

make me with your mouth

[sacred cedar]

this raid is bland and uninspired

[sly yoke]

guys need help, does anybody know how to fix a macro that wants to use tier 2 pot instead of 3 even tho I don't have any tier 2 in bags

[slim hamlet]

yo if they nerf assa can it please be bleeds so hybrid is the play in m+ 🙏

[royal lantern]

huh?

[sacred cedar]

i said

📣 this raid is bland and uninspired

[royal lantern]

yeha but why

[sudden brook]

Low tie rbait

[slim hamlet]

you might have shift+left clicked the pot when making the macro?

[balmy condor]

don't take the bait

[hexed flicker]

Is there a pin or one of the class guides that covers when to break Undermine tier?

[slim hamlet]

Try manually writing name or shift+click lvl 3 one

[royal lantern]

i have goldfish IQ, taking all the bait

[sly yoke]

I did

[clever sparrow]

send me log pls

[jaunty violet]

what talent did you run>

[sly yoke]

don't think we logged

[stable sinew]

We need more buffs

[sly yoke]

normal bleed

[clever sparrow]

sadge

[clever sparrow]

log pls

😭

[jaunty violet]

kingsbane?

[sly yoke]

no king

[slim hamlet]

No one is logging weekly keys 🥀

[thorn thorn]

Im getting baited

[hexed flicker]

Oh that's awkward, the all caps was the only part I skimmed over 😓 . Cheers.

[jaunty violet]

ds or fb?

[slim hamlet]

Gotta find the random that forgot to turn logs off after raid

[clever sparrow]

i just want to see where im wasting dps 💔

[sly yoke]

dung only ds

[jaunty violet]

ty

[slim hamlet]

dont worry, I will log my weekly no leaver +2 for you

[clever sparrow]

thank you ❤️

[sly yoke]

@balmy condor do you know what can cause that?

[balmy condor]

idk I have potion on its own key

no clue what your macro is

[spice surge]

[balmy condor]

pathetic

couldn't eve get to 60

[sly yoke]

#showtooltip Deathmark
/cast Tempered Potion
/use Wrathstone
/cast Deathmark

[jaunty sky]

Isnt it use for potions

[balmy condor]

yeh dunno looks fine to me

I think /cast works

[static glacier]

did you send on a 15% paladin?!

[sly yoke]

oh true

let me try use

[proven willow]

shift click the item in the macro window fam

[hexed root]

4pc?

[sly yoke]

nope use does not work

[spice surge]

Well he had like 85% when i sent, but yes it popped during DM

[proven willow]

typing in 2025 is crazywork

[sly yoke]

I did

[slim hamlet]

when its just the name it will automatically try to use the lowest rank first. You sure you dont have any on bag? Otherwise u can find the item id for the rank 3 and use /use item:xxxxx instead

[proven willow]

swap them around a couple times maybe its weird

[slim hamlet]

This is ID for r3 tempered pot btw

[sly yoke]

/use 212265? if that that does not work

[slim hamlet]

/use item:212265

[sly yoke]

that works

ty

[slim hamlet]

No man, I need my afk in city simulator

[jade abyss]

when i sim soleas secret technique trinket where i can see what stat i choose?

[sly yoke]

is it eu?

[slim hamlet]

ye

[hexed root]

you on 4pc?

[slim hamlet]

I feel like that needed something added in the custom apl and simc options in shadowlands to sim

[plush isle]

is there a bug with fatebound ?, on lorrgs.io some logs have 30 sec. cooldown

[sacred cedar]

ok forgeweaver seemed pretty cool

the first 3 bosses though

[balmy condor]

ye

[plush isle]

but only seems like the first kingsbane cd is bugged

[balmy condor]

correct

[plush isle]

oh im wrong

[balmy condor]

oh interesting

I mean it's the same bug

[plush isle]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/C9bzwf4FGhZVamPX?fight=15&source=302 thats the log

[balmy condor]

but the fact that it persists is funny

It's already been reported a bajillion times

but ty

[slim hamlet]

make it a bajillion and one

[wispy adder]

What're the optimal talents for raid?

[jaunty sky]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[balmy condor]

depends on boss

[sly yoke]

yea, and still got 2 cata charges

[hexed root]

cant wait to have 4pc

[sly yoke]

fate starts to pump hard with 4

[slim hamlet]

People got 4pc without using cata and all I got so far is a trinket

[hexed root]

that m+ was fate?

[sly yoke]

no ds

[hexed root]

I did 30 dungs before we did heroic last 2, and only got 1 tier slot item, it's felt bad

[hexed root]

sounds like you were way higher ilvl for just 1mil more 😉 ❤️

[last vessel]

is there a resource anywhere on how you can guarantee a lucky coin on opener? On the test dummy I understand how to get to 6, but not how to get the 7th in a row

[slim hamlet]

Its crazy I feel like so many people already got 4pc