#assassination

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balmy condor
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it's probably worse if they do

frigid pilot
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fatebound needs to be buffed on cleave

vale shore
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does the M+ bleed spec have any place in the raid?

frigid pilot
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so i can leave deathstalker behind 5eva

tacit hedge
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Is ST fb still worth using over the standard ST build in raid if you don't have a 2 piece?

balmy condor
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🙄

balmy condor
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both work

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open guide

haughty flicker
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ds on araz did serious emotional damage to me but fuck the pylons anyway

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all my homies hate doing pylon damage

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im here to do boss damage

frigid pilot
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any1 found as fix for this shit?

vale shore
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what about Shadowheart? it's wild we are three patches in and still have such a great placeholder talent

balmy condor
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dunno

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makes sense to me

vale shore
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rogues: "Did you try stabbing it a bunch?"

frigid pilot
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yeah i might have to ask my gm to do it, im not the one who subbed to bart's discord/patreon for the pack

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so i dont have sub access

autumn folio
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I got this trinket for my Rogue, it seems to be pretty good! Can someone tell me how to use it? Like to I wait for some stacks to come together or do I just press it on pull and then every 20 seconds?

frigid pilot
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!prism

vale shore
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Rogues: "Programming an addon? That is sort of like disarming a trap or picking a lock, right?"

frigid pilot
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!netherprism

balmy condor
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!randomwordsaladgo

young flicker
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how bad is it to vanish just after casting KB during your opener as fatebound?

frigid pilot
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susprised there isnt a !prism with how often that question comes upxD

autumn folio
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@balmy condor So I use it basically on Pull with cd's and then 2 mins later with deathmark again?

young flicker
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Oh, thought you casted vanish first then kb

balmy condor
young flicker
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ok cool

vale shore
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just throwing your seven coins in the air and miraculously having them all come up the same

young flicker
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so whats the benefit exactly? wouldn't we want to vanish near the end of KB like we used to for Master Assassin?

autumn folio
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So the Prism combined with Antenna is Bis?

balmy condor
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do you know how fatebound works

balmy condor
peak bobcat
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cranked on nexus

autumn folio
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If I have 4 Piece, is it better to macro with vanish or with Deathmark @balmy condor ?

balmy condor
haughty flicker
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holy

peak bobcat
earnest remnant
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gonna be fun seeing the dmg i can dish out when ive got tier

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0 zenith dropped in my nm split for my rogue

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so gotta wait to the hc split tonight for it

haughty flicker
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my raid has seen 1 piece of zenith total

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and i ddint get it

peak bobcat
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spatter does a lot on nexus and dimensius

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Op talent man

haughty flicker
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i got a curio from dimensius and i have champ tier in vault so 2p at least

peak bobcat
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that gave me 4pc

vale shore
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I at two piece right now, its pretty slick

balmy condor
vale shore
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I was hoping against hope for another Wrathstone from WOLK timewalking raid, but no dice

haughty flicker
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ye i need to get a second hero piece to cata

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and i can get 4p

frank trench
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I am sure it’s just me but this raid feels unfun on assassination with how many boss phasing and target swaps there are

haughty flicker
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havent had shit for drops

runic hinge
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I need to do lfr still

earnest remnant
earnest remnant
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fairly sure if no zenith dropped im just getting a hc curio

balmy condor
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the raid is sick

balmy condor
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fatebound is sick

haughty flicker
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i do really like the raid

frank trench
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I need to play more fatebound

haughty flicker
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im only halfway through heroic so not the most informed opinion yet

peak bobcat
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the raid is sick which makes fatebound sick because i can look at the cool animations and not at my 2 button rotation

haughty flicker
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but its sick

vale shore
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"heads I win, tails you lose!"

earnest remnant
sterile swallow
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Yeah the fights have been fun IMO when one FB and not worried about lossing my mark.

frank trench
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So the three demon hunters and dimensius would be deathstalker rest fate bound?

vale shore
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I feel like there are other add fights

haughty flicker
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i couldve had a 100 parse on soulbinder

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im actually pissed

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i didnt hold cds like 10 seconds

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for the second big set of adds

peak bobcat
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dimensius is an insane fatebound boss with spatter

frank trench
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Oh damn you updated the guide to it ❤️ effing your always one step ahead

peak bobcat
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actually crazy fucking dam

haughty flicker
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couldve padded my ass off

rotund oak
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i dare you

fallow canopy
haughty flicker
haughty flicker
fallow canopy
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until the big boys get gear garf_sit

rotund oak
haughty flicker
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we do love doggos

balmy condor
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I can't really support any of them in good faith I'm ngl

young flicker
balmy condor
young flicker
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ok got it

rotund oak
haughty flicker
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fnatic doesnt have a wow team

rotund oak
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but srsly liquids dogo

haughty flicker
rotund oak
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is for hugzets

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cant deny

spiral cypress
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Hi guys, I took a huge break from wow and I need help about the new crafting order system.
I want an off-hand Everforged Dagger but I do not possess some optional reagents as you can see in the screen shot.
Will I be able to recraft it later to upgrade it ? If yes, is everything fine in the screen ?

haughty flicker
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you can recraft later yes but make sure its not an int dagger first

spiral cypress
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Yeah I saw the whispyr's guide about it on wow-head

rotund oak
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its on french but can tell its the right one from the alloys

balmy condor
# rotund oak had couple of dudes we had a hi,but ye im not rly a fanatic

the problem is that amongst the top 3 guilds, one of them hates rogue tc and shits out absolute slop content with ai, one of them hates tank tc which is my friends and my friends got called slurs and so that's not good, and one of them just re-recruited a bunch of abusers

I'll let you guess which is which, but there's not really any good options KEKW

spiral cypress
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Yeah it's the correct one with Crit-Mastery stats

haughty flicker
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whispyr rooting for china world first confirmed

rotund oak
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btchs be btching

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we must have ganked them alot previous expansions

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rogue can be traumatic for sure

autumn folio
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Is it possible to pre-stack the Prism Trinket before a Bossfight?

rotund oak
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:3

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oh my i cant stop watching

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dogo too beautiful

proven willow
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i watch for the content

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idc about their opinions or personalities

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thats some weak sht

balmy condor
balmy condor
past bobcat
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Dude why is FB kinda gas

balmy condor
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like if my neighbors called my brother a slur and then said I'm a dumbfuck

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I can't just sit there and go

misty holly
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Is it a known bug that you can jump past 7 coin stacks and miss fateful ending? I was at 9 stacks during a dungeon yesterday and the capstone never triggered lol

balmy condor
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"yeah but I love watching him mow the grass so we're cool"

balmy condor
past bobcat
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also we are holding kb and using with every deathmark right

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with fb

balmy condor
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what

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god no

past bobcat
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  • 4 set
balmy condor
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why would you

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they line up

misty holly
balmy condor
hoary remnant
balmy condor
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I guess if you're at 2, then dm kb to 6

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and then brain off vanish to 8

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that would break it

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but the other one would be going to 6

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and then you would still have a cold blood

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so then the off-coin would go to 7

misty holly
past bobcat
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oh wait im dumb

cursive finch
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Hey friends, I'm needing a WA to assist my plater

misty holly
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it was during a dungeon so I was using vanish for silences

balmy condor
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you were what

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vanishing for silence, on fatebound? in a dungeon?

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bro is cooking something rancid

fallow canopy
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The mythical m+ fb

misty holly
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I use vanish to silence all the time lol

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vanish to turn off every caster totally worth it

wooden star
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I've decided to forget how to read after that

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Goodbye all

peak bobcat
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Understandable

cursive finch
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I'm looking for a WA that like changes plater highlights, or bleeds, rupture and garrote of curse

shy dragon
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lol

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I feel that

rotund oak
hoary remnant
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I played fateboubd without the tier. It felt so bad never getting that capstone and just being bad at gambling

misty holly
shy dragon
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My man out here playing wow hardcore

rotund oak
hoary remnant
sterile swallow
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Man think it is time for me to use my vanish to sleep after that info.

hoary remnant
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Mark is bad but fatebound gets just worse with more targets

misty holly
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I mean Im not pushing title. I play for fun, and fatebound can get me to 3000io without trouble.

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no rewards past that, so I have fun

rotund oak
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everyone can achieve that ye

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so do what u like

hoary remnant
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Good attitude

rotund oak
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doesnt rly matter

past bobcat
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we skip the shiv on the 2nd kb correct? only using one shiv on last 8s of 2nd kb

hoary remnant
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I argue one button rotation works better with fatebound

shy dragon
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!macro

prisma monolithBOT
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With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

hoary remnant
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Like no Mark to worry about is a blessing

dawn kelp
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yea it’s so nice

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I shoulda played fb on nexus king

fierce tulip
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true =(

true rapids
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whats finisher rule on fb 5+?

dawn kelp
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Ya

reef timber
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do we just sim 1T in bleed build cuz our single is such ass? lol

crystal haven
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looking for what percentage of each stat i want as assassination

balmy condor
proven willow
balmy condor
proven willow
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i made a living off of thousands of those

round cypress
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Hi all,
Is main damage still the most DPS gain ? Wondering if it's worth going for a recraft at 720 with ascendance as the sims go for up to 10% damage upgrade (which seems kind of huge), just wondering if it's worth to dump crest first week on it instead of trinket & such

earnest remnant
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mainhand will always be your biggest upgrade

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at the start of a tier

round cypress
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Yeah, I guessed so, but didn't want to fall in a "trap"

shy dragon
earnest remnant
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only way to really "lose" is if you do mythic 2nd boss and it drops 2x daggers

round cypress
balmy condor
shy dragon
balmy condor
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the color of the plate changes

earnest remnant
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since embels are so shit you could argue it still would be

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right now im playing assa but im just running lenses

shy dragon
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Ahh, smart boi, ty
Great plater so far, thank (jundies) you!

balmy condor
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np

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you can change the color in the mod setting

shy dragon
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Nah, just me being stupid not reading through the description, you had the explanation there
ty once again

grand trail
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So is the raid like swapping between fatebound and ds?

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I will go 2p2p into raid tonight

marsh fjord
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Yo whats up boomers

marsh fjord
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time to get 2k IO today

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and get 4 set for HC raid tonight

shy dragon
marsh fjord
shy dragon
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Fr tho, s3 was hella fun start

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assa feels great

marsh fjord
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The raid fucking slaps bro

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i was doing mad damage on fatebound yesterdayh

shy dragon
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I'm EU, so still havn't done it, but can't wait to do some FB action in there

distant plinth
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🤣

shy dragon
distant plinth
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Yepp! Had to split yesterday with my DK, cant wait to play rogue tonight

hard fractal
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Do you send DN Env with 6CP+supercharge and fresh garrote?

hexed root
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this game hates me, i just want the lily

hexed root
waxen panther
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does anyone know if the time walking dungeon cahce drop a chance for tier ?

hexed root
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both quests do yea

waxen panther
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ok ty

sharp sinew
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the Tw one drops champ gear right?

hexed root
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yea

sharp sinew
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the non raid one

hexed root
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raid tw is hero

sharp sinew
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I manage to gear pants which i converted to tier

earnest remnant
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my sub sims like 900k less than my assa

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so kinda

runic hinge
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Does it get better with 4 set?

elfin fossil
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How is assa starting to look in sustained aoe around the 16-17 keylvl compared to like.. SP? Can we meaningfully keep up our bleeds for packs that live so much longer?

earnest remnant
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compared to assa

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so not really

runic hinge
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Maybe buffs soon

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I’ll manifest them

earnest remnant
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think sub needs like an 8% buff to be brought for single target dmg

obtuse arch
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Hello! How well do Assassination Rogues do in solo Delves? :)

balmy condor
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pretty terrible

earnest remnant
sharp sinew
grand trail
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I was doing like milion keys yesterday and assa is really crazy

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But good demo lock is match

sand stump
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guys tbh a nerf to assa is pretty much expectable no?

earnest remnant
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doubt

waxen panther
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no its not that overpowered

earnest remnant
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maybe in keys

obtuse arch
grand trail
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In raid it do not look like nerdlf wortty

earnest remnant
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but not for raid

cursive finch
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Hey peeps. Still just curious if anyone has a WA to show bleeds on plater?

sand stump
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ye the aoe, raid looks fine

grand trail
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Sub look grim

sand stump
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but I cant be topping +2m overall on second place

grand trail
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Kinda sadge

balmy condor
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plater can just do that

cursive finch
grand trail
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But getting crit haste neck and ring was tell to play assa i guess

balmy condor
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okay what's the issue with jundies

cursive finch
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I’ve got a WA that adds a border to my player for my main target

balmy condor
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plater can also just do that

cursive finch
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Like@I want something that will highlight when I have a mob with a bleed Idfk

balmy condor
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highlight how

cursive finch
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Idfk, some how haha

balmy condor
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is just tracking the bleed not enough?

cursive finch
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I’m new to assa

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My player does that idk

balmy condor
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what else would you possibly be tracking on the nameplate

cursive finch
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Okay yes sorry nvm I’ll fuck off my bad lol

balmy condor
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I mean I'm just trying to figure out what you're trying to do

cursive finch
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I saw casual had something that highlighted his mobs with bleeds. All I was trynna accomplish

elfin fossil
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Is it possible to change the nameplates of ElvUI to highlight the target with DS-buff?

obtuse arch
sharp sinew
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I think he wants the big bleed icon ontop right?

grand trail
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For example casual have different borders for target withnout rupture, maybe he mean that

unreal imp
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Saw a couple mentions yesterday searching but Deathstalker's Mark breaking on Forgeweaver Araz's Arcane Collectors is sheerly diabolical

cursive finch
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I was trying to accomplish that, as I have one for my main target ya dig

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My death mark target that is I believe

balmy condor
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yeh idk how he's doing this part

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probably some mod

inland hill
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whats our offpiece?

grand trail
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Casual ui is for subs only but if you ask him nicely he will give to you

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He is nice guy

cursive finch
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I’m just need to assa, and I wanted to get better at multi dotting targets

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I don’t want his whole UI, just thag part hahaha

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I use Gruffs

grand trail
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Yeah would need export it from his plater profile

cursive finch
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Yeahhhh

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Steal the mod he’s using I assume?

balmy condor
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yeh

grand trail
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Its pretty common ye

cursive finch
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Is it even like, a real thing to be multi bleeding targets?

balmy condor
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yep

cursive finch
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Ah

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I’m legit a repeller. Went from 4 tanks to just assa lol

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I haven’t played rogue since BFA outlaw

balmy condor
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idk I just track them on the frame and recolor for caustic/mark

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works fine

grand trail
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Whispyr

half tartan
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!vanish

prisma monolithBOT
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Vanish->Ambush during cooldowns with Darkest Night up has two main benefits:

  • Getting more mark uptime by reapplying when it's down
  • Consuming Darkest Night then puts you from 3 stacks of the mark down to 2 since the mark is already applied

As of September 13th with the Echoing Reprimand Fix, that second part is broken. Blizzard inadvertantly added a bug where you cannot consume mark stacks while darkest night is active. This will hopefully get resolved quickly as it is quite impactful. Until that time, you might want to consider taking improved garrote in your single target build (instead of 1 point of vicious venoms, or instead of improved poison). You do not have to do this, and if you would like to continue to play without improved garrote, you would simply hold onto your vanish in case you drop the mark. Once the bug is fixed you would go back to vanish->ambush.

grand trail
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There is some mark issues on forge boss?

balmy condor
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yeh but not an issue

grand trail
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What's happening there?

half tartan
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What does the vanish do for fatebound

balmy condor
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the conduits don't give darkest night

cyan surge
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void touched fragment slams in keys. I had 20% uptime of 13k mastery

grand trail
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The pillars ?

balmy condor
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ryes

grand trail
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How do you go around that ?

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Gotta vanish after?

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Or save dn

earnest remnant
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put it on the mob tanked next to it

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thats what id do

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just cleave from that xD

grand trail
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Ok

earnest remnant
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as long as the mob doesent die, its fine

woven drum
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can someone tell me, if u play 2x 2set Bonus, Or do i exchange 4 set to 4 set?

earnest remnant
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4set asap

woven drum
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ofc i have old 4 set of last season, but actually only 2 new parts. So wait for 2 more before swap?

balmy condor
woven drum
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thank you ❤️

earnest remnant
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and then swap to new 4set asap

rotund oak
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coz raccoon lord is based

earnest remnant
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u cant ragebait me

rotund oak
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easiest thing in the universe

earnest remnant
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nothing people say on the internet will get to me

rotund oak
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im gonna have to get the ok from dad whispyr

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and no,im not risking it

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coz raccoons are cool

earnest remnant
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i quite literally spend half my time awake answering dumb af questions all the time, im pretty numb at this point + my irl work is literally dealing with stupid people. im too old to get mad at someone over the internet, if i deem it a lost cause i just walk away from the conversation

wooden timber
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is there anything that can cancel vanish in araz if you try to do it after killing the pylon

wooden timber
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i lost my hero talent but unsure if it was max size heroicc lag or if some dmg popped me out of it

fathom flax
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Blizz determined to make the spec broken 🙁

unreal imp
balmy condor
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it literally doesn't matter

haughty flicker
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you have to get past the emotional damage

earnest remnant
haughty flicker
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and realize nobody cares about pylons

thorn thorn
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@balmy condor Have you heard of a bug of stealth canceling on its own

haughty flicker
balmy condor
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with the nightfall dagger yes

haughty flicker
thorn thorn
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Buddies stealth keeps canceling randomly

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are you fuckin seriouis

runic hinge
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I don’t think that’s her name

thorn thorn
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Holy shit

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ty

gray pecan
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Hey, im new, in s3 frost dk will be better than assa rogue ?

runic hinge
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Ask the frost dks

wooden timber
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i dont want that to ever happen again it felt so bad

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but also if you can send vanish early for lwoer cd itd be nice but i dont wanna gamble getting it popped

haughty flicker
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no point

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just only use it before the damage amp

thorn thorn
haughty flicker
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have plenty of time

wooden timber
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oh i know i think the dmg amps are slightly less than 2m apart

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unless i misread lorrgs

haughty flicker
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depends on how fast you do pylons

wooden timber
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ok i misread

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ignore me entirely

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according to lorrgs timestamps its fine

haughty flicker
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idk if it can go below 2m but my guild is slow as fuck

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so it definitely didnt for us

wooden timber
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it felt more tight in the fight for some reason

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but im not sure it was immensly laggy

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so idk if it went off on time

zenith elm
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Hello everyone quick question

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i have 2 catalyst charges, and 2 pieces of tier set already equipped

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do i send the catalyst charges for 4p or i wait next week for maybe a myth track one ?

unborn wharf
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hey I have some bleed m+ questions after watching the whispyr encyclopedia.

  1. Improved Garrote always over FoK in aoe? (bleed build). Once all targets are garroted its FoK yeah?
  2. is DN or crimson tempest higher prio in aoe? Like on the gather of a new pull when you have DN and no CT applied.
  3. How hard do we spread ruptures in bleed build? Do you spread more past like 6-9 mobs? Do you try to rupture every mob that an improved rupture cast will land on and last?
unborn wharf
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ok so for rupture spreading just keep it to scent of blood and the maybe 1 mo cast thats alright that you mentioned?

balmy condor
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yep

unborn wharf
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kk, ty

balmy condor
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np

zenith elm
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Love you whispyr

balmy condor
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I love me too

zenith elm
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🙁

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its good, self esteem is important

haughty flicker
balmy condor
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gottem

zenith elm
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i wanna hit +7-10 so that i can have my 720 dagger

grand trail
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Who was asking about jundies he just added this mod

zenith elm
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but i'm at work 🙁

grand trail
zenith elm
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does anyone have a class WA with the coins for fatebound? luxthos dont show it and i wanna see the numbers go up

unborn wharf
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oh another thing does bleed build still care about staying above 50% energy for Sanguine Blades on ST?

balmy condor
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no

quiet oar
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I love how you play the second platform on Dimensius withotu Hero Talent

haughty flicker
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go fatebound 4head

quiet oar
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Should have clarified

balmy condor
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dimensius isn't a deathstalker fight

zenith elm
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he did DS

quiet oar
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i played Deathstalker

zenith elm
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i guess

balmy condor
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yeah

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that's your first mistake

eternal ravine
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!sheet

prisma monolithBOT
haughty flicker
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i played deathstalker too

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i forgor to swap

quiet oar
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Yeah

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But its just dumb

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They could fix these Problems

zenith elm
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its only third to fifth boss you play DS

quiet oar
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by making Darkest Night Perma

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until spend

zenith elm
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rest is Fatebound

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FOR ONCE

haughty flicker
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i play deathstalker whenever i want

quiet oar
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🙂

haughty flicker
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just think of it as a minigame

zenith elm
haughty flicker
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finish the race before dn expires

zenith elm
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is it only possible with RP?

quiet oar
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I played Fatebound as soon, as i have 4 Pc

night vessel
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is anyone here willing to take a look at my fractilus nhc log and tell me that i have autism and suck at assasination?

haughty flicker
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probably not

quiet oar
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and i need 2k to actually finish 4p

zenith elm
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we'll see

hearty seal
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tbh I've tried FB on a couple of bosses yesterday
hate it even more now, it feels stupid

haughty flicker
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its just assa without deathstalker

hearty seal
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but I don't have set yet (shit vault and no drops from raid)

zenith elm
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even with 0p

haughty flicker
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dont track coins until you get tier

zenith elm
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its better for ST and the last three bosses

haughty flicker
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then turn on coin tracking for dopamine

zenith elm
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really coold

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cool*

wooden timber
quiet oar
wooden timber
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they wanted me to send also

quiet oar
quiet oar
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4p >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any Myth track

haughty flicker
#

thats what you did wrong lmao

#

gamba better next time nerd

zenith elm
#

yeah

#

lucky coins luck lol

#

i was gonna say the same lol

night vessel
#

so it just pure rng

zenith elm
#

Yes

haughty flicker
#

i didnt actually look at your casts yet

zenith elm
#

you lost the 50/50

haughty flicker
#

but the lucky coin did not help

#

for sure

zenith elm
#

you forgot vanish before envenom on your cd

#

your first envenom

haughty flicker
#

doesnt look like you vanished on opener

#

thats pretty important

zenith elm
#

Damn Bel and Belgarath spotting everything together ❤️

#

and at the same time

quiet oar
#

Bel + Bel = BelBel

zenith elm
#

And your second CD

#

still no vanish

waxen oyster
#

fatebound without tier sounds like an awful experience

night vessel
#

okey noted. anything else i completely scuffed? want to get better at assasination before getting frustrated and returning to outlaw

haughty flicker
#

its fine if you just dont track lucky coin

quiet oar
#

Dont play Deathstalker on Dimensius

haughty flicker
waxen oyster
#

it seemed fine the one time i tried

#

is coin damage that low without tier btw

haughty flicker
#

well he missed multiple edge cases by not vanishing

#

plus not having lucky coin the whole fight

snow fable
#

!tier

prisma monolithBOT
#

Get your Season 2 Two Piece immediately, as it is a powerful gain. The new 4 piece is equal power to the old 4 piece at equal item level

haughty flicker
#

but no it was my second highest damage on fract

#

without tier

waxen oyster
#

yeah i played it first time since s1

quiet oar
#

I love having 6 Coins and having a 50/50 to get 7

uneven plume
#

is 2pc 2pc good for assa M+?

quiet oar
#

and lose every time

uneven plume
#

or straight to 4pc

waxen oyster
haughty flicker
#

until 2p then fatebound w

#

i got 2p and we fight heroic fract tomorrow

#

i high roll on the target dummy

#

surely

quiet oar
#

4p is guaranteed for me, just need 2K

haughty flicker
#

well later today

quiet oar
#

(FOr that we have to manage to not get only, HOA, Gambits, Eco Dome and Floodates)

haughty flicker
#

i need to get another heroic piece to catalyse then i have 4p

quiet oar
#

We circled this 4 DUngeons

#

Whole day

night vessel
#

so i have 2p tier now, fatebound should work alot better right?

quiet oar
#

yesterday

haughty flicker
#

it guarantees the lucky coin on opener (if you do the opener right) so its a lot nicer yeah

haughty flicker
night vessel
#

yeah i watched the video of shindiggs on this behalf, gonna try it out tomorrow

haughty flicker
#

we havent gotten a single one

waxen oyster
#

i could just q shuffle

quiet oar
#

TBF

#

We only had 3 Keys to juggle

#

because 2 other players didnt read/hear to not pick items out of vault

#

so they stuck with +2 Key

night vessel
haughty flicker
#

i need to build up a bit of good karma so i can go back to shitposting

night vessel
#

yeah. i desperately want to stay assa this season because i want to get good at it

waxen oyster
#

tbh its kind of wild how much damage 2p was

bronze pike
#

Rogues are currently one of the least played classes in World of Warcraft. This may be due to a combination of mechanical stagnation, overlap between specs, and limited role flexibility. The intent of these changes is to diversify Rogue gameplay, increase spec differentiation, and provide additional role options without removing the core stealth fantasy. The following redesign is a hypothesis aimed at increasing spec diversity, role variety, and thematic clarity:

Assassination – The Venom Master

Still a dagger-wielding spec, but all damage becomes poison-based. Think toxic strikes, venom bombs, and clouds of poison mist— emphasizing its niche as the master of toxins. This spec could also have some of the most pronounced visuals as a result.

bright turret
#

o boy love AI slop

gilded stump
#

Morning QQ about darkest night prio - if dots like crimson tempest or rupture is going to fall of as a result of using max combo point to consume darkest night, do we still envenom to consume? Or reapply dots before consuming, thereby wasting one cycle of finisher to reapply deathstalkers mark?

keen spruce
formal harness
#

and if happens, i think Darkest night aboth all other

gilded stump
#

Thanks!

small cairn
#

!gear

gilded stump
#

So are you saying you never come across this issue?

keen spruce
#

should never* come across it

#

but shit happens sometimes

gilded stump
#

It's more challenging during movement bosses

keen spruce
#

yeah just try to stay ahead of your timers

gilded stump
#

As you lose a lot of uptime to reapply dots

keen spruce
#

so you have a plan for the next few things coming up

gilded stump
#

Yeah think I need to tweak my weak auras a little bit

keen spruce
#

it's also early days

gilded stump
#

To 30% rather than seconds of max rupture combo

reef timber
#

sorry if this has been asked, do we craft a dagger this week?

keen spruce
#

once you get more reps on bosses you kind of naturally know when you should reapply dots

rotund oak
keen spruce
#

cuz they tend to line up at normal times

gilded stump
#

👍

quiet oar
keen spruce
#

☝️ ☝️ ☝️ ☝️ ☝️ ☝️ ☝️ ☝️ ☝️ ☝️ ☝️ ☝️ ☝️ ☝️ ☝️ ☝️ ☝️

rotund oak
#

u did didnt u

keen spruce
#

you're in Grollow's disc Jake you should know how to read

rotund oak
#

😂

keen spruce
keen spruce
rotund oak
#

ah nvm

keen spruce
rotund oak
keen spruce
#

u spend 20 minutes in here and can answer 95% of all questions asked

haughty flicker
#

lmfao

#

real

hearty seal
quiet oar
#

I mean how is Shmeeps supposed to play WoW

#

he is a duck

keen spruce
#

yeah i don't have fingies

#

wings only good to fly and pet akio

balmy condor
night vessel
haughty flicker
night vessel
#

i love cat kisses mate

haughty flicker
#

it doesnt appear because you didnt cast it at all

keen spruce
#

but it should be in the cast timeline

#

on ye

haughty flicker
#

if you cast it then it'll be there

keen spruce
#

if you don't cast it it won't be there

quiet oar
night vessel
#

OOOOOOH so i fucked it up on EVERY fight. nice. gonna slap myself now

quiet oar
#

You wouldnt be the first Bird he takes down

keen spruce
haughty flicker
#

hiding in there

keen spruce
#

biggest snuggles

haughty flicker
quiet oar
#

Infinite DMG Hack

keen spruce
night vessel
rotund oak
#

unbeatable beauty

#

😍

keen spruce
#

I probably won't have a job that actually pays anything for a hot while

#

but when i do

#

I'm build a golf sim

night vessel
#

so i'll just vanish just before DM?

keen spruce
#

and getting a dog

#

a cat

#

and a duck

#

call duck specifically

#

old ass rescue dog with 0 energy

quiet oar
keen spruce
#

and preferably one eye'd black cat

#

so i can stick a googly eye on his missing one

bronze pike
dense cedar
#

Everyone winning?

keen spruce
#

I would name the duck Keith

#

the dog would be dog

balmy condor
keen spruce
#

and the cat would be maximus decimus meridius, commander of the armies of the north, general of the felix legions and loyal servant the the true empoeror, marcus aurelius. father to a murdered son. husband to a murdered wife.

#

or max for short

keen spruce
bronze pike
night vessel
rotund oak
#

!guide

rotund oak
#

wowhead one

keen spruce
haughty flicker
#

ye what he said

keen spruce
#

I can't decide if I want to be a sarcastic crasher outer for guide questions

#

or a full on enabler

#

🤔

night vessel
#

Just go all in on me. My brain can only take a certain amount of flame but there is capacity atm

keen spruce
#

well if you ask for it there's no fun

haughty flicker
rotund oak
keen spruce
quiet oar
balmy condor
#

the hole opens

marsh fjord
#

did you do HC raid yesterday whispyr?

#

or did you raid at all

balmy condor
#

tuesday was heroic, we 30% wiped on salhadaar

#

then today we stomped out normal and cleaned up salhadaar

#

tomorrow is dimensius prog

marsh fjord
#

How was it difficulty wise the rest of the bosses?

balmy condor
#

araz probably the hardest

quiet oar
#

I guess if you have a lot of sets already

marsh fjord
#

Ahhh

quiet oar
#

it gets way easier

balmy condor
#

fractilus was an absolute steamroll, we had half our raid still in aoe talents from demon council

#

and one shot it with no issues

marsh fjord
balmy condor
#

demon council was a joke too

quiet oar
balmy condor
#

araz was kinda rough but it didn't take much, just cleaning it up

quiet oar
#

like more than usual

balmy condor
#

and then uhhhhhh

quiet oar
#

because Sets are SOOOOO much Stronger

balmy condor
#

rest was okay

marsh fjord
#

Did you use rupture spread on council with garrote on main target?

balmy condor
#

salhadaar is a gearcheck

#

and dimensius is currently pushing our shit in tremendously

night vessel
#

hat huge lack spikes on forgemaster. kinda sucks

balmy condor
#

the just raw hps check

#

is ridiculous

fresh kelp
#

fractilius is very funny

#

literal patchwerk

quiet oar
fresh kelp
#

on our H kill i just rolled like 1 wall break and spent the remaining 95% of the fight just standing in one spot hitting boss

balmy condor
#

fractilius is missing 2 mechanics, 35% hp, and like a permanent raid-wide dot

#

bro just actually sits there and falls over

balmy condor
silent drift
#

on BIG pulls, do you want to dot more than the cap of scent buff?

haughty flicker
#

fract looks like an insane joke on heroic lmao

#

cant wait to get to my target dummy fight

#

araz was the boss my guild has struggled the most with so far

night vessel
#

we 1 shot everything until araz where ppl lagged out and we were sucked from the platform at 7%. fight kinda overwhelms ppls pc's

haughty flicker
#

yeah we had some people freezing up real bad

keen spruce
#

even in the RWF splits they were gettin trucked

night vessel
#

also, half of the raid died to the flying part where the laser beam comes from underground while walking to the next boss.

#

it happened every time we came there

haughty flicker
#

my favorite was learning that if you click release too soon after wiping to dimensius you just die again

ripe sphinx
#

isn’t that hilarious

marsh fjord
#

maybe its different on mythic

#

who knows

keen spruce
#

gn assas chat, read the pins and the guides plz garf

balmy condor
ripe sphinx
#

they’re all the same anyways

#

purple people

quiet oar
#

where you stnad in one line

#

and wait until boss is deadge

cyan surge
#

What's everyone's thoughts on void touched fragment in keys? I think it pairs well with SD feeding into it.

balmy condor
#

yeh, its pretty good

winged quail
#

Suffering from success rn gonna get 4pc in raid today but don’t have a good 1.5 min trinket gotta farm m+ like hell today

cyan surge
#

Sims put it about a few thousand dps below pacemaker at the same ilvl, but I think that's undervalued.

viral axle
#

hey guys with the new tier set. When we play bleed build in m+ do we send dry shivs whenever we have lingering darkness and 1 stack of the hero talent?

balmy condor
#

yes

balmy condor
viral axle
balmy condor
#

kinda just depends how your tank is pulling

wispy chasm
#

Is there a reason why I would be getting a minute off my deathmark in the opener at the moment?

balmy condor
#

fatebound 4pc

#

well not a minute

humble verge
balmy condor
#

but that's the only way you'd get cdr

wispy chasm
#

I thought it was just for having a lucky coin gives you 30 seconds

mild spoke
#

!macro

prisma monolithBOT
#

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

wispy chasm
#

but getting 1 minute off was not what I was expecting

balmy condor
#

do you have a log

wispy chasm
#

Let me grab it, happened to a friend of mine too

wispy chasm
#

might also have a clip

quiet oar
#

any Raters?

oak musk
#

That's a nice log

balmy condor
#

I've seen bigger

quiet oar
haughty flicker
#

also are we uncovering secret deathmark cdr tech

balmy condor
#

I have a theory

#

a COIN THEORY

#

but yeh

#

I think this is a bug

#

that I have reported from PTR

#

that didn't get fixed cause it was deemed niche

#

but maybe I have to poke again

#

we'll see

quiet oar
#

When you get both coins at seven, it triggers the Lucky Coin twice and the CDR too?

balmy condor
#

yeh, it's possible

haughty flicker
#

huge

red schooner
#

We're done with normal mode splits, surely we don't make any more weird decisions throughout the rest of the season. Surely.

golden loom
#

were the splits fun

quiet oar
#

Splits this season were a really good decision for us

primal egret
red schooner
quiet oar
#

Our first Split gave every main 4pc

red schooner
#

I wish to return to being a one trick pony

haughty flicker
#

ngl ive enjoyed raiding so much i wish my guild was doing splits

balmy condor
#

thanks

haughty flicker
#

np

quiet oar
#

It looks like you mate got 10 and 7 Coins and it jumped immediately to 1 Minute

wispy chasm
#

ngl we have sat here for 20 minutes trying to figure out cooldown shit for it and thought it was normal lol

red schooner
#

I can at least 4 piece if I get some m+ catalyst fodder so, this is fine

balmy condor
quiet oar
wispy chasm
red schooner
#

Once again, why is the CDR tied to the capstone when the hunter tierset just flat out reduces the cooldown

red schooner
quiet oar
#

Because its Rogue

golden loom
#

1min deathmark doesnt sound problematic at all garf

quiet oar
#

it has to be weird and complicated

quiet oar
haughty flicker
#

wait what

quiet oar
#

We told our raiders like 3 Months prior to this Season that we plan to do splits

dusky vault
#

Can anyone explain why we shiv first with FB? Wouldn't it be better after DM for more KB coverage or is there extra shiv benefits Im not thinking of.

haughty flicker
#

your guild gave you 3 days notice that you were gonna be doing splits this tier?

red schooner
#

Yeah we had 3 days which is... Fun

haughty flicker
#

big dammies

haughty flicker
quiet oar
#

Literally insane

haughty flicker
#

and your wr is not great right

#

no flame but i remember you saying it was pretty low

red schooner
haughty flicker
#

yeah

#

thats wild

shy dragon
#

OOF

haughty flicker
#

as fuck

shy dragon
#

that's a leave on the spot for me yo

red schooner
quiet oar
haughty flicker
red schooner
#

I have no aspirations, I remain in my rfwl lane garf

haughty flicker
red schooner
#

But yeah 3 days notice is like... Okay then

quiet oar
#

3 Days Notice is like bad Management

#

like how do you justify that

haughty flicker
#

rl woke up one day and said fuck it

static glacier
#

Bruh I’m going back to bed, fuck this shit

red schooner
static glacier
#

If he wants splits sure, there’s a real benefit

#

But 3 days wtf

serene mason
#

!gear

static glacier
#

Ah yes, you better have a raid ready alt in 3 days lmao

red schooner
static glacier
#

🙃

#

Like tell your gm or rl this

#

“Bro I get you’re managing the guild but 3 days notice is nowhere near enough”

#

Heck tbf with you I’m not convinced of splits value for late ce, since it’s usually just mechanics checks that hold you back not numbers

red schooner
#

Yeah that was my main gripe. The lack of notice was wild.

peak lake
#

this thing is the new kezan ?

static glacier
red schooner
static glacier
#

It is stronger on longer fights

static glacier
regal linden
#

!geasr

red schooner
#

I'd have rather spent the time just doing some m+ spam for hero pieces

regal linden
#

!gear

static glacier
#

Hero loot upgrade might aswell cap at 4/6

#

Since upgrading past that is just griefing ur ilvl for the rest of the season if ur litterally not already full of upgraded myth in all other slots

red schooner
#

Yeah I ain't burning gildeds on it

static glacier
#

Therefore champ = hero 4/6

#

They need to look at how gearing works in this game again

#

Too many traps, too much holding power

red schooner
#

Turbo boost coming as well, time to hoard lower crests

haughty flicker
#

yeah hero track and champ track being basically as good as each other for the first few weeks is really weird

#

that probably shouldnt be a thing

static glacier
#

I’m sitting on 4 cats charges incase tazavesh or myth raid gives pieces to catalyst, sitting on craft incase 2nd boss myth is doable, I feel like I’m sandbagging super hard

haughty flicker
#

im hoarding every fucking low crest to cash in for gilded as soon as boost hits

static glacier
haughty flicker
#

yeah

#

its nice that you dont have to get that specific item again at heroic i guess

distant plinth
haughty flicker
#

but just feels weird

distant plinth
#

Just send it and get dem 99parses

static glacier
#

I sent last season so we could kill gally week 1

#

Was like 1-3 ilvls below raid rest of the fucking season

#

Bc I took eye of kezan on rl command and sent gilded into hero track shit for power

static glacier
#

I’d rather not grief prog again for week 1

distant plinth
#

you do you bro, save it til midnight much better

real peak
#

yo, do you guys have any tips other than wasting gcd to manage energy on single target especially in m+ ?

celest crescent
#

would you use 2 charges to have 2-2 pieces on hero gear or its better to wait?

#

3/8hc so pbly wont be super higher this week

drifting cloud
#

just wait for another vault

real peak
lilac moon
#

guys in M+ do i have to spread rupture and garrote to all targerts if target are like 7+ or 10 + , then continue damaging the prio target? or just spread them in just 3-4 targets??

real peak
#

always maintain rupture on 5+ targets if possible

#

and if you have vanish charges

#

spread as much as possible, especially improved ga3.rrote

agile geode
#

i've dropped unyelding netherprims

lilac moon
agile geode
#

how can i use it?

real peak
#

i know

#

and with bleed build

#

you're doing dmg with your bleeds

#

so spread them

lilac moon
#

aight

real peak
#

and make max use of scent of blood talent

#

5 target affected by rupture means 20% bonus agi

lilac moon
#

sheesh

gray pecan
#

What talents in assa we play on raid ?

dense cedar
gray pecan
#

Wowhead is better than icy veins or others www?

dense cedar
#

their information is very similar since the authors share info between each other

#

You basically just run fatebound on the fights that don't have a billion adds

patent glade
#

wich poisons i uses on bleed build?

azure roost
#

are u guys playing build or cleave in m+?

hearty seal
#

bleed

hearty seal
dense cedar
#

kinda just depends on key level and dungeon

azure roost
#

whats the % upgrade for deathstalker tier from no piece to 2/4p

hearty seal
#

huge

patent glade
#

okey so i play only 2

broken chasm
#

What do you do with the first 90 crests do you make a dagger and then use the rest to upgrade the trinket?

patent glade
#

on bleed

hearty seal
hearty seal
patent glade
#

ty a lot i think i did wrong

ebon cloud
#

why do we vanish after kingsbane in deathmark as fatebound?

dense cedar
hearty seal
ebon cloud
#

ahhh ofc

hearty seal
ebon cloud
#

so vanish after KB every DM is the rule

dense cedar
#

its the cold blood

#

double jep just makes u get 2 edge case coins

#

instead of 1

dense cedar
fading elbow
#

Hey I had a question about the Whispyr edit weak aura. What are the 2 numbers on the top left on rupture and CT? Is that the number of mobs that have it on them?

dense cedar
#

and CT is tracking the multi-hit damage bonus

fading elbow
#

Ahhh I see

dense cedar
#

@hearty seal Thankeng

balmy condor
#

@dense cedar thinkingaboutyou

dense cedar
hearty seal
#

since the current M+ build basically always wants CT to be up regardless

balmy condor
#

well it's a snapshot

dense cedar
balmy condor
#

yeah

#

if you're at 1

hearty seal
balmy condor
#

and adds spawn

#

you want to be at 5

#

if it's at 5

#

and it enters pandemic

#

you don't refresh

hearty seal
#

it being a snapshot explains a lot ye

dense cedar
#

@balmy condor btw what is that blue part of your double envenom tracking wa?

golden loom
#

current weeks affix very good for ST on pure single target!

dense cedar
#

ok so im not dumb

#

yipee

haughty flicker
#

ye until the fucking monk drops rop on them before i can snapshot ct

balmy condor
#

I mean.....

haughty flicker
#

god i hat emonks

dense cedar
balmy condor
#

:)

dense cedar
#

a wise person asks imo

#

better than to be ignorantly playing correctly

hearty seal
balmy condor
#

yah but imagine the JUICE

#

2 stack CT is a single target dps gain on all builds

#

think about the BOSS DAMAGE

broken chasm
#

What do you do with the first 90 crests do you make a dagger and then use the rest to upgrade the trinket?

balmy condor
#

that's what I did yeh

#

but I got a netherprism

#

so

haughty flicker
#

god i love boss damage

#

wtf

#

whispyr prism gamer

stark matrix
#

straight juicing keys rn holy moly

haughty flicker
#

meanwhile i have a shitty champ track lily

hearty seal
sage wagon
#

Whats the build played in m+ rn? Considering I got 2t pieces.

balmy condor
#

on the nexus king burn

#

with a full stack netherprism

elfin fossil
#

pls no nerf

balmy condor
balmy condor
dense cedar
#

blizz nerf pls

dense cedar
#

got between the two rogues

night vessel
#

is there a netherprism WA already? couldn't find one yesterday. want too keep track of the stacks

balmy condor
#

no need

#

tracking the stacks is pointless

night vessel
#

just send with every kb?

balmy condor
#

hell no

#

you either send with DM

#

or with fb 4pc you send with vanish

#

or if there's a specific fight you hold for that specific moment

#

like nexus king damage amp

night vessel
#

kk

stark matrix
#

best I did on the burn tonight

balmy condor
#

yeah but now do everything before the burn

haughty flicker
#

meanwhile i played sub on normal salad bar and we skipped the add phase entirely

balmy condor
#

cause I'm zdps before the burn

haughty flicker
#

which threw off my cds so i had nothin

balmy condor
#

I legit just didn't have a trinket for the first 4:22

#

if I had 4pc I could've sent at 1:30

#

I guess I could've technically sent 2 and 2:30

#

but wouldn't have been a full stack

#

cringe

stark matrix
#

you doing fate on that fight?

balmy condor
#

yes ofc

#

it's giga fatebound fight

#

with 4pc even more so

#

1:30 timings line up way better