assassination

[manic anvil]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[half tartan]

!sheet

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[main bridge]

yes but you can always sim if you're not sure

[indigo mulch]

Why is wago dead D;

[marble hemlock]

mostly cuz people with old tier were still used to it

[main bridge]

works fine for me

[indigo mulch]

If i try to query something it just loads infinitly D;

[marble hemlock]

im incredibly washed up

[main bridge]

it's slow but it loads

[half dawn]

worth to convert 1 piece of champ gear to tier this week if you have a champ tier from vault for 2+2?

[pure moth]

Well that changed since last night.

[golden loom]

https://tenor.com/view/worldofwar-timeschange-change-garrosh-gif-13230689

[thorn fjord]

So we're never pressing ambush when playing FB?

[frigid pilot]

i dont know what perfecto is cookin

but he does deathstalker on the last 2

[pure moth]

First 2 fights i didnt even have all 4 poisons on cuz i just changed out of bleed build. I was highly disappointed lol

[frigid pilot]

on maxroll

🤔

[half tartan]

Ty friend I know we can always count on you to reply to things you already always answered elsewhere and not be passive aggressive like every other discord 🥰🥰🥰

[frigid pilot]

but DS on dimensius is annoying af

[nova kelp]

but DS is annoying af*

fixed it

[half tartan]

For what reason?

[half dawn]

is bleed build best build for m+ because of simplicity or the aoe from it just makes up for all the ST loss?

[frigid pilot]

3rd platform u lose ur stacks and cant use them until final phase

cus i use vanish for 1st plat

[pure moth]

Cuz u have to portal and it auto starts boss.

[frigid pilot]

2nd plat got no DS

[plush isle]

@balmy condor it is hot and i can't think straight, why vanish in the kingsbane macro in the wowhead guide ?

[frigid pilot]

not even why, if u stealth while portal u can ambush add at opener

its the intermission thats cringe

[fleet fulcrum]

when u use cold blood in raid?

[viscid spear]

Damn, I was DS for the last two last night

[fleet fulcrum]

before kingsbane?

[balmy condor]

well, at least you know they're not plagiarizing and using AI anymore

[frigid pilot]

LOL

shots fired brap brap

[balmy condor]

until you get the 4pc there's no reason not to

[golden loom]

I am fighting the urge to catalyze my gloves before normal raid to gain 14%..

[half tartan]

You stay in stealth tho whats the down side

[balmy condor]

I mean yes, I shit on them ridiculously hard when maxroll and echo got together and released their AI slopfest of a guide

[frigid pilot]

so why the fuck in 2025 method guides have no pictures or link anything to wowhead

[balmy condor]

their hyperlinking broke

[frigid pilot]

dayum

their guides for other games r lit including warcraft rumble

[nova kelp]

secured

[balmy condor]

I mean I write their assa one

so I get it

but yeh

[frigid pilot]

ye i know im just surprised no1 told them bruh lets add some pictures for the gamers that cant read

or hyperlinks to abilities

[balmy condor]

they don't have the budget for good guidewriters most of the time tbh

[frigid pilot]

like just typing fb> cd> sd blah blah is crazy

[balmy condor]

they have hyperlinks automated

but if it breaks it breaks

[frigid pilot]

cant they vibecode and fix it

[candid sun]

Picture good, text bad

[waxen oyster]

Wow players cant read

[candid sun]

Thems a lot of words

[frigid pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/theoffice-kevin-words-gif-5865940

[hidden inlet]

I think arcane guide is one of the best guides on it, it's written by hopeful and has actual information that doesn't exist in other guides

[winged quail]

got 2k, have 3/4 heroic tier before setting foot in raid, today was a good day

[frigid pilot]

yeah but he admitted he had to get alot of help from porom

[haughty flicker]

that explains why you're there

[frigid pilot]

who does the wowhead one

[dapper hound]

!macro

[prisma monolith]

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[balmy condor]

the pictures though would require tooling

[nova kelp]

mark twain once said "I didn't have time to write a short letter, so I wrote a long one instead"

[haughty flicker]

mark twain was a nerd though

[nova kelp]

it's more difficult to effectively summarise and experience no loss of info, than to fucking word salad

and thus we end up with the worlds great issues

cindermead brewery

[frigid pilot]

i wonder how much squishei makes from wowhead

5mil+ ppl go to that website all the time

[cursive root]

what 4p are people taking if they're playing sub/assa? do you prio sub "best" slots of head chest hands legs?

[frigid pilot]

now granted, theirs alot of adblock andrews out there

but still

[dawn kelp]

WHO SANDBAGGED our sims this shits blasting!

[nova kelp]

4 of them, and 1 not of them

[cursive root]

ya but i have the luxury of choosing 🙂

[nova kelp]

choose 4 of them

[cursive root]

what is best for tmog

[balmy condor]

I did the method guide pro bono for over a year cause the payment is just not high enough to be worth reporting for my taxes

[balmy condor]

you realize squishei is just a guy right

[haughty flicker]

incredibly based actually

[balmy condor]

he's not john wowhead

[frigid pilot]

he isnt?

thought hes co-owner

[nova kelp]

who's not john?

[frigid pilot]

damn what a chad

[nova kelp]

I'm not john, but I'm not not john

[haughty flicker]

would the co owners both be john

or do you need a different name

john feels too singular to be a co owner

[wise plover]

Yo whisp before tier do we shiv>dm>kb for fatebound? or dont preshiv until tier

[balmy condor]

HUH

no lmao

[balmy condor]

not until 2pc

[nova kelp]

cowner

[candid sun]

John, where's my lasagna

[nova kelp]

who's john? I'm not john

[wise plover]

kk ty, also does it matter when i vanish, i noticed you vanish before 2nd envenom, but could i just KB > vanish > envenom ?

[candid sun]

You're not not john

[nova kelp]

I am indeed not not john

[balmy condor]

sure

[wise plover]

❤️ ty king

[haughty flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/garfield-jon-lasagna-monster-garfield-nervous-gif-14264741

[nova kelp]

that is one based cat

[humble verge]

icl @balmy condor FB is hella fun

[nova kelp]

I got 2 belts today

[humble verge]

we dropped 2 belts on first boss

leather

[haughty flicker]

fb is just assa without the deathstalker bullshit

[nova kelp]

nice

[haughty flicker]

more evidence the base class is good but hero trees pls fix

[candid sun]

Lmfaooo

[nova kelp]

but sounds like a jingling purse circa 1590

[haughty flicker]

the coins are loud as fuck yeah

[nova kelp]

I need a 10 halls of attonement

I have 1 more timer to get done

[humble verge]

i have 0 fps

[dense cedar]

nice

[nova kelp]

0 fps would make it quite difficult

[teal patrol]

Guys I tried to find this on the wowhead guide and could not, do I replace the season 2 tierset only with the 4 set or can I go 2-2?

[nova kelp]

www.raidbots.com

[chrome meadow]

can i cast cb+kb and vanish right after instead of macroing it, or did i get the order wrong?

[frigid pilot]

jusr crafted 720 MH and got 230k dps.. lol

from 684

Scaling is wild

[nova kelp]

SCALING!

[halcyon flame]

hi,with what i use cold blood ? assa fatebound raid

[azure roost]

uhh

spatter aint proccing

in dawn?

wtf

[humble verge]

i feel like im oom on energy 24/7 on FB @balmy condor with uh VV

[formal harness]

do we have a sheet for which talents at which boss already? 😄

[balmy condor]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/rogue/assassination/manaforge-omega-raid-tips

the sheet is called

"a guide"

[chrome meadow]

do i vanish before cb+kb or vanish after cb+kb?

[balmy condor]

ok

[frigid pilot]

IF IT AINT ON EXCEL, WE AINT READIN IT

[balmy condor]

yes

[frigid pilot]

xlookup gang

[fallen charm]

hey guys the absolute bis tldr on trinkets is> FB-lily+antenna, DS-forge+antenna, or is it forge on FB too?

[chrome meadow]

aight so both, ty :D

[balmy condor]

y

[balmy condor]

probably prism + antenna but there's more trinket hotfixes

so

[frigid pilot]

just jokin but i think of excel when i hear some1 say sheet

[balmy condor]

we wait for that

[fallen charm]

ok thanks

[lethal arrow]

prism is cool and all but whys it gotta be aids to play

[fallen charm]

I got both forge and prism champion

[balmy condor]

what's aids about it

[fallen charm]

kinda sus the prism ngl

[lethal arrow]

i dun like having to press it every 3 min

[balmy condor]

you could just press it with dm

[ocean ore]

guys, bleed build, we want always to hold our energy at 150+?

[balmy condor]

no

[lethal arrow]

yeah but thats -minus dps and that is CRINGE

[ocean ore]

dump it in envenom?

[balmy condor]

yes

[ocean ore]

ok!

ty

[balmy condor]

not much else to dump it on

[ocean ore]

ty whispyr

[fallen charm]

dump on knife throw ofc

[lethal arrow]

your bleeds have prio over envenom so if ur bleeds are up just dump envenoms

[radiant shadow]

!tott

[prisma monolith]

Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:

/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0

[lone lava]

@balmy condor How much Haste do we want for M+?

[balmy condor]

whatever your sims say

[warm vortex]

For soul harvesters you want 3 rups up right

[coral ibex]

anyone know if you faction swap before entering mythic for the week, does it brick your lockout the same as faction/race swapping when you are mid lockout

[balmy condor]

energy is good yes

[warm vortex]

Poggies

What about gars?

[analog field]

in 2nd boss we don't use caustic ? i am not 100% familiar with the fight i thought it had some adds

[lethal arrow]

just the 1 is fine

3 ruptures is most important

[balmy condor]

you can't really cleave them

[lethal arrow]

u just rupture snipe the webs

u cant cleave them because it doesnt reach

[rancid crypt]

sin does the most dmg in keys or?

[keen spruce]

equip your poisons

[main bridge]

Why risk it?

[uneven crag]

anyone know if you can cloak "Overinfusion Burst" on loomithar, I tried it last night but didnt have luck. Anyone know if evasion or feint would make it livable?

[lethal arrow]

if thats the big ass aoe circle you can cloak it

you mightve cloaked too early

[coral ibex]

because if it doesn't matter then ill just swap now

as opposed to swapping monday night

[uneven crag]

Yeah its the big ass circle, do you have to do it within the "1 -sec" immuinity instead of the lingering cloak part?

[lethal arrow]

idk i pressed cloak like halfway through the cast and was fine

[azure roost]

ive lost braincells

[gilded stump]

Quick question for anyone who uses plater. I'm tracking both rupture and crimson tempest, but to me, the icon looks far too similar, so in multi target, it's difficult to differentiate between whether it's rupture or crimson tempest I have up. Is there a way to change the icon of the buffs so I can configure it to look entirely different? For example, making crimson tempest a blue icon instead of red?

[stoic holly]

Guys I accidently crafted Int dagger -.- . Do I just use it in Offhand for Ascendence Progs or is it to big of a DMG loss?

[lethal arrow]

[coral ibex]

no, you can't change the icons for buffs and debuffs in plater afaik

[haughty flicker]

nope you goofed

[umbral sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/tupac-sad-sigh-gif-13059499

[haughty flicker]

gotta find something else

[coral ibex]

lol

its season 3

people are still crafting int daggers

how

[shy dragon]

by not tripple quadruple checking, lol

I started my discord stream for my guildies to confirm it 😄

[haughty flicker]

not the first and wont be the last

int dagger takes another

[humble verge]

apparently you didnt even check at all

you should have 3 tabs of the craft tab on wowhead open

[balmy condor]

it's not worth equipping

[keen spruce]

get big-debuffs

ig

[balmy condor]

my solution is just not tracking CT on plater

everything will have CT anyway

[keen spruce]

also that

[formal harness]

do we play 2-2 tset if we get? ^^

[balmy condor]

no reason to see it on a nameplate if everything has it

[coral ibex]

i like whispyr's plater mod that puts a red border

for CT

[balmy condor]

the season 3 two piece is unironically stronger than the season 1 two piece, season 1 four piece, season 2 two piece, and season 2 four piece

COMBINED

[shy dragon]

huh? No, I got an agi dagger, im not stupid 😛
It was the other guy

[balmy condor]

I don't get how people are asking it so frequently

[analog field]

with 2 piece we shiv before DM right ? and then on the last 8 seconds ? so we have like a small gap ?

[balmy condor]

you shiv when the first expires

[grand trail]

ups dont do TW its not worth

[analog field]

ah ok so i have a gap when kb is ending ?

[stoic holly]

How hard am I fucked? Reroll angle? ^^ Never played Rogue before this saison

[uneven crag]

anyone know what to do for dimensius fight since you lose you deathstalker on each platform? I'm guessing just spec into vanish x2?

[main bridge]

It’s joever

[keen spruce]

i mean that spark is bricked, but you're fine. just go farm some hero track daggies from m+

[humble verge]

AINT N OWAY

[stoic holly]

okay

[main bridge]

Could always try opening a ticket

[humble verge]

FORGE DROPPED

i probably wont get it

[fast phoenix]

This nether trinket doing like 11% of my dps, Jesus lol

[hexed root]

whats the best way to sim dung again?

[dense cedar]

dungeonslice

[fallow canopy]

rat alt demon

[charred vector]

is anyone having issues with getting master assassin wa's to track?

[main bridge]

What’s there to track with that?

[echo island]

!fatebound

!fb

[prisma monolith]

Only changes for fatebound are macroing cold blood to kingsbane and vanishing during the cold blood buff during deathmark in order to double flip coins. Otherwise regular rotation, finishers on 5+

Min-maxes currently only include using shiv before deathmark with the Fatebound 2 piece equipped in order to buff the coins. The 4 piece is worth using, and you will want an 1:30 trinket (lily or prism) to buff your deathmark windows accordingly.

[charred vector]

Just the uptime at all, doesn't seem to respond to either buff name or spell id

[zenith hatch]

what bosses were we playin fatebound> there was some nice graphic, cant find it tho

[spring prawn]

hmm would u guys upgrade hc track dagger to 710 or craft a 720 🧐

[main bridge]

I don’t know of any reason to track that

[analog field]

there is a link on wowhead saying

practically ds on 456

[zenith hatch]

kk

[analog field]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/rogue/assassination/manaforge-omega-raid-tips

[chilly sluice]

everyone sending their first 60 gilded for dagger?

as in craft

[zenith hatch]

tyty

[west crown]

720 all day

[west crown]

Biggest upgrade you will get outside of raid trinket

[velvet pier]

!crafting

[keen spruce]

720, it'll be your best mainhand for a bit and an embellishment slot. then it auto-slots into your OH when you get a big myth daggie.

[sullen violet]

!macro

[prisma monolith]

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[frail geyser]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[chilly viper]

First craft dagger good bad?

I can't seem to find the crafting section on wowhead

[normal mist]

good

like

every season

[chilly viper]

ya figured lol

[real pike]

yoooo just got the whispyr WA pack update

CT tracker goes haaaaard

[chilly viper]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[real pike]

red combo points are interesting

[keen spruce]

for future reference

[chilly viper]

Word, thanks mate

[static glacier]

!macro

[prisma monolith]

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[blissful pumice]

Do we play fatebound or DS in Raid?

[agile geode]

fatestalker

depends on boss and depends on you

[blissful pumice]

perfect 😄

[agile geode]

but chek pins

[blissful pumice]

y i was checkin lorrgs and everybody plays different

[chilly viper]

https://tenor.com/view/toss-coin-flip-gif-26540302

[somber fractal]

whats the best way to use netherprism? do you use it on every deathmark after opener, or do you hold it for every other for max stacks in execute?

[open gulch]

!macro

[prisma monolith]

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[analog field]

talents for dh fight ? we take ct?

[analog field]

are they together enough to make ct worth it ?

[humble verge]

we love first boss heroic

[golden loom]

I am gonna play bleed build for fun on soul hunters

[analog field]

dont tempt me

i ll try it now

[pale badger]

when i s a good time to remove the old 4set bonus when i get a new 2 set or at 4 sets ?

[coral ibex]

please check the pins

[pale badger]

i was just reading t hat an managed to miss it XD

[digital venture]

!items

!loot

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1404831391778078741/assa.webp

[balmy condor]

with 4pc every 3min is slightly better than macroing to dm

[jaunty lotus]

!fok

[prisma monolith]

Fok Conditions Post-Buff
Fan of Knives as a generator to replace ambush/mutilate:

• Baseline 3+ targets, -1 if talented into momentum of despair and thrown precision, +1 if talented into vicious venoms, +1 if talented into blindside. (Generally 5 with raid build, 3 with Bleed m+, 2 with Hybrid m+)
  Fan of Knives with Clear the Witnesses Up:
• Baseline 2+ targets, -1 if lingering darkness is up or you aren't talented into vicious venoms. With Vicious Venoms casting during lingering darkness is dps neutral.
  Fan of Knives with Darkest Night Up:
• Only on 2+ targets, or without Vicious Venoms talented. This is also a very very minor optimization

The most important to remember is the generator rules, clear the witnesses and darkest night optimizations can be effectively ignored as they are not meaningful DPS improvements

[golden loom]

what do you think about the bleed build soul hunter dam @balmy condor

[balmy condor]

yeh probably fine

[rigid flicker]

Should i use Runed to upgrade crafted weapon or wait for gilded?

[golden loom]

I played it like a donkey but it has some potential on normal atleast 😛

[balmy condor]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1031593895722745956/1403481126764286042/crest_flow_chart.png?ex=689da3e8&is=689c5268&hm=9832f68a601121450bcfeda5652b5e2a5200e122308c3a9461cb0bc396495a0d&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1032&height=387

[analog field]

it was nice, well it is normal but it felt really good having 2 vanishes

[half dawn]

does anyone know if there is a way to use the new quazi profile while keeping the old bar/debuf settins

[vestal granite]

worth dropping OLD two-set for +13 ilvl on one piece?

[humble verge]

@winged sun not pushing?

[half dawn]

every season i have to manually fuck around with plater

[golden loom]

oh nice I played fractalis with 2 poisons only after playing bleed on soul hunters

[hexed root]

bleed build unplayable eco m+

[royal lantern]

what

[humble verge]

????

i literally

[hexed root]

2nd boss

[humble verge]

pumped in eco

yeah

look at your WA

[royal lantern]

i swear, so many people here show up and say random words

[golden loom]

just swap ur mark

[humble verge]

when the timer hits the thing

and just swap

the mark

[coral ibex]

emplussers man

[royal lantern]

what has mark being shity to do with bleed build??????????

[golden loom]

you also play double vanish in bleed so

[royal lantern]

thats mark being a dogshit mechanic

[subtle karma]

!loot

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1404831391778078741/assa.webp

[haughty sedge]

babby question, sorry: why do we vanish after kb/cb in the opener?

[hexed root]

what about the mount?

[humble verge]

you remove mark on mount

[golden loom]

just swap mark to guy and then swap back to mount

[humble verge]

place it on him

remove it from him

place on mount again

its free

[coral ibex]

double jeopardy

[hexed root]

time it better

[hexed root]

gotta

[coral ibex]

in combination with inevitable end

[haughty sedge]

ohh thank you. i always forget to read over hero talents

[humble verge]

already goated

[crisp fractal]

is warlock just broken strong rn?

[humble verge]

m+ or raid?

[crisp fractal]

M+

[humble verge]

well

yes

things are lasting long now

since people are doing 10 keys with their 680 gear

instead of being 700 with full 4p

[wary breach]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[winged sun]

why tf would i push day 1

what the helly

[humble verge]

idk

casual is 2,8k

[pliant remnant]

my goat is so washed

on day 1

what the helly

[humble verge]

3rd boss

actually insane

[main bridge]

They took you to Gapplebees

[whole wolf]

Is brann just a bad joke ? Doesn't heal for sh*t, potions thrown 15m away and body pull half the packs in the room all the time
Maybe I'm just bad but any delves 9+ are a struggle I'm losing my mind in excavation 9

[real pike]

guys we still don't use CtW on raid Deathstalker right?

[main bridge]

He didn’t always pull everything. That seems to be a new problem in S3. Choosing the defensive curios may help

I was able to do tier 11 delves at 682

[analog field]

i tried boosting with my rogue and 11's that wanted to kill specific mobs were a bit unplayable. the fucking kyveza mobs are exhausting

[lean plover]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[humble verge]

LEGIT

NO FUCKING

TIER SET DROPS

FOR ME

SADGE

[lean plover]

ok but what reaction do you have for that uber

[real pike]

!ctw

[humble verge]

hes screaming out of agony

[main bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/balthazar-simpson-lisa-ralph-broken-heart-gif-15014327393602581816

[lean plover]

HAAHAHAH alright good one

[hot pasture]

how is rogue doing in parses

[balmy condor]

good

[humble verge]

well its no wonder i dont get tier

half the raid is mail

*over half the raid

also

8 shamans

only 2 have speed totem

[humble verge]

3rd boss was cooked

if we had FB timers for DM and KB

it would be giga

since it sometimes doenst really lineup that good

[empty tide]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[balmy condor]

what does this have to do with anything

🤨

[humble verge]

i havent seen a single monk/war/rogue/evo tier drop

[bronze marsh]

Skill issue

[golden loom]

why the fk do they just hate shadowstep

[humble verge]

actually

[golden loom]

im so sad...

[balmy condor]

yeah but what does that have to do with your comp?

[warm vortex]

We have no hunters, druids or mages

3/4 of our tier pieces dropped so far are those classes

[humble verge]

hm alright.

idk

maybe just unlucky Sadge

[bronze marsh]

Or the handful of bows we got from kyveza with no hunters in raid

[night summit]

how long do we need to keep 2/4 set? until we get 2/4 set of the new set?

[static glacier]

ive got 4pc (2pc and 2 cata)

debating if i send on hero or greed

[bronze marsh]

I sent mine on hero for 2pc

[agile geode]

do we have any fatebound coin wa tracker?

[humble verge]

honestly gambit might be one of the eaiser keys this season

[deft shard]

fatebound tech??

[sullen hedge]

how do you guys feel about the unyielding netherprism?

[bronze marsh]

As a sub main I covet it

[balmy condor]

changing it to bis on the guide today

[reef isle]

do you get bonus catayst charge for 2k rating this season?

[bronze marsh]

Yep

Ksm/aotc/1.6k pvp rating

[reef isle]

huh weird, still showing 1 charge for me

[static glacier]

is it used in place of a passive?

or instead of active

[balmy condor]

what

active

[bronze marsh]

It’s an active trinket

[sullen hedge]

oh really? i got it and wasnt sure i like the feeling, fair enough though

[reef isle]

3 bonus total? or either one

[bronze marsh]

Otherwise it just does damage

[bronze marsh]

One for any of those three milestones

[reef isle]

i see, thanks

[bronze marsh]

One total

[reef isle]

great thanks

[winged sun]

@balmy condor yo i remember u talking about coldblood usage

how do we press it exactly?

forgot what u explained

[fallen charm]

macro to KB and forget about it

[delicate smelt]

How much shitty is Bomb dispenser from delves?

[balmy condor]

you macro it to kb

[winged sun]

no specific minmaxes ye?

[balmy condor]

thats the minmax

[winged sun]

alright ty

[delicate smelt]

All delves trinkets looks to be very weak. I hope they will boost them

[humble verge]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/qdfCHYp7PyFbQkDR?fight=last&type=damage-done maybe i could get R1 on this boss

[latent verge]

Anyone have a Weak aura to track bleed durations? (Not a whole package like Luxthos)?

[main bridge]

most people use plater

[latent verge]

Do you recommend a specific one?

[rapid karma]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[balmy condor]

pls no

not another season of chasing delve vault

[main bridge]

you're gonna be a mole person and like it

[quartz cloak]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1403486905915408524/Dark_Mode.jpg

[frigid lagoon]

why is vanish macrod to kb

[latent verge]

What does kb mean

[balmy condor]

cause it's good to do that if you don't have 4pc

if you have 4pc you probably unmacro

[latent verge]

Sorry, new to rogue

[balmy condor]

kingsbane

[severe meadow]

boy god damn boy

[balmy condor]

probably should just take out the macro thing

confusing people

[severe meadow]

I'm seeing the "DUMMY SILLY BANANAS STRONG"

[willow wren]

Do any of the new raid bosses go immune randomly and drop ds mark

[dreamy canyon]

Any world where it would be good to play double on-use with Netherprism and Ritual Forge (for fatebound)?Have one for each DM

[balmy condor]

you lose the mark on araz all the time

[nova kelp]

bro

[balmy condor]

hell no

[nova kelp]

the mark on araz is fucking dogshit

[real pike]

@balmy condor have conditions for using CtW changed?

[balmy condor]

no

[real pike]

ah ok, it's appearing more in the updated WA

thanks

[balmy condor]

what do you mean appearing more

[nova kelp]

I think if you have a mark on the pylons when they die, it just disappears

[balmy condor]

yes

[real pike]

like last tier I think you did clever things to make it only show up if we wanted to press it

it never did when I was in raid spec

[balmy condor]

yeah

that's the same thing

[real pike]

but it's showing up in raid now

in ST

[balmy condor]

hmm

I will check

I don't see why that would be

[nova kelp]

wtb class tree shadow dance again, so that we can reapply dsm on 1m cd easy as

[real pike]

ye it doesn't seem to be all of the time but definitely some

I will try and get a clip if it helps

[balmy condor]

it's all the same

[real pike]

hmmm

[balmy condor]

2 target in range, not talented into VV

or lingering up

[real pike]

I am VV

[balmy condor]

yes

[silent drift]

yeah assassin rogue feels in m+ lol

[real pike]

so it should never show in 1/2 targets?

[balmy condor]

no, it should show with 2 target

or lingering

[real pike]

ohhh 1 target + lingering it shows?

[balmy condor]

yeah

but it did that last tier

[real pike]

ahhh

maybe I was 2 updates behind

cause it didn't do that

[balmy condor]

I think I change it to shiv though with tier set

but yeh

logic seems fine

[humble verge]

ok so @balmy condor

i figured out

dont mark the pillars on 4th boss

it just ceases to exist if its still there after

can like

[balmy condor]

glad you figured that out

[humble verge]

blizzard fix these fucking bugs? because they are fucking annoying

[real pike]

ok yeah I must have been extra behind cause it never showed for me at all last tier

[humble verge]

yes thank the lord

[real pike]

thanks for your patience :>

[humble verge]

you should add this in the guide

[real pike]

if we're playing Deathstalker on Dimensius do we have to just vanish on pull?

[humble verge]

in this one

[balmy condor]

yes

[real pike]

cool

[balmy condor]

I'm wondering if it's just fb angle

[golden loom]

I think you just play fatebound on him tho

felt very good

[autumn folio]

how much dps is 2set upgrade?

[main bridge]

i was able to take the teleporter and remain in stealth

[autumn folio]

ind 4 set?

and*

[balmy condor]

20%

[real pike]

maybe I landed a bit late

will experiment

[balmy condor]

8%

[golden loom]

also yeah you stay in stealth in the teleporter

to dimensius

[static glen]

Huh how

[golden loom]

I just shrouded for the team aswell

[static glen]

It breaks my stealth everytime

[humble verge]

fb angle?

when you could pad

well probably

[real pike]

think I figured it

when you go near the teleporter it takes you out of stealth

so you restealthj and then go

[golden loom]

idk I was in stealth for the 3 pulls we did

[obsidian harbor]

hi guys: anyone can help me on raid spec?

[humble verge]

what you need help with

[rugged sphinx]

is forgeweaver collectors bugged with deathstalkers mark?

[humble verge]

yes

use it on the adds that move

and just cleave on the statues

!wa

[waxen oyster]

dimensius never broke my stealth

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[bronze marsh]

Same, was stealthed when taking portal and it didn’t break

[waxen oyster]

It's because you play troll and the game detects you're stinky.

[obsidian harbor]

In raid spec game automatically use me the Thé charges, why?

[waxen oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/is-that-english-adam-engvid-are-you-speaking-english-what-language-is-that-gif-26135127

[real pike]

yet you're the green one here (with jealousy)

[regal linden]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[normal mist]

with void trinket, close to 100% mastery without signet

brrrrr

bleeds go papapa

[real pike]

holy shit the knockbacks on dimensius are OBNOXIOUS

the mark juggling also isn't amazing

FB angle methinks

[thorn thorn]

Yes imagine being a caster

The knockbacks every 10-15s are omega cringe

[real pike]

yeah tbf that does sound awful

[jagged wind]

I havent had this much fun playing Assa in m+ for long time😍 had a good run. got almost 2.2k score, luck dacked 4 set on and crafter the dagger to max ilvl👌♥️

tommorrows agenda: grindshit out of ecodome for the sigletarget trinket

[coral ibex]

is wrathstone worth going into timewalking for

i can't add it to top gear to sim it

it says it gives 21k main stat at 1/8 champion

[golden loom]

I mean u get a hero track item anyways

so just do it

[waxen oyster]

Does void trinket let you farm kbs with sd

[velvet ridge]

is sin dead now that araz is nerfed

[haughty flicker]

yes

its joever

[velvet ridge]

dam

[jaunty sky]

yeah outlaw best spec now

[balmy condor]

the trinket we weren't using on fb got nerfed

oh no

[jaunty sky]

also

[worldly bridge]

yoo we're on Araz, using a scoreloot system, is it worth spending everything for his trink ?

[velvet ridge]

the wowhead guide writer said that araz is best though

[jaunty sky]

[waxen oyster]

the fuck is scoreloot

bro is playing dkp in 2025

[worldly bridge]

lol kinda but simplified

every loot u can place a score 0/1/3 and ppl that didnt spend much get prio

[waxen oyster]

That's real dumb

[worldly bridge]

i oversimplified it but it's actually pretty legit

[peak musk]

!gear

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1404831391778078741/assa.webp

[glass raptor]

Do we craft weapon as first item?

[real pike]

I passed this up in raid cause the guide said take antenna

[waxen oyster]

people following bis lists in 2025

[real pike]

and also having to play around it seems like effort

[waxen oyster]

[haughty flicker]

[real pike]

was more the explanation than the bis list

the trinket tiers are pretty solid

[waxen oyster]

Not really

top gear is pretty solid

[real pike]

top gear doesn't consider this lol

[balmy condor]

doesn't consider what

[real pike]

that you need to stack it up and skip cds on pull?

[earnest remnant]

it does

[balmy condor]

why wouldn't it consider that

[royal lantern]

this chat in the last 24hours is so cooked

it legit hurts

im out

[balmy condor]

do you think the sim just

[real pike]

lol not that you have to do it

[balmy condor]

has stacks?

[real pike]

no

[balmy condor]

what do you have to do

im lost

[jaunty sky]

press buttons

[real pike]

I mean the intangible of having to play differently

that it's annoying

[balmy condor]

what are you doing differently

[real pike]

and in some cases might screw CD timing later in the fight

waiting to use CDs?

[waxen oyster]

you could have just used your brain

[balmy condor]

what

[waxen oyster]

to realize if you need to build stacks you wont have stacks on pull

[haughty flicker]

you dont wait to use cds with it man

[waxen oyster]

[balmy condor]

you just macro it

?

[real pike]

to what?

[balmy condor]

like technically you can hold it for 3min cds with 4pc fatebound

to dm?

[royal lantern]

your cds?

what else

[jaunty sky]

DM or KB depending on build

[balmy condor]

on 4pc fb you can macro to vanish

I guess

[real pike]

then sorry but the wording is unclear on this

[waxen oyster]

blizz make double on use meta again

[haughty flicker]

are there any bosses with a damage amp at 3m

[real pike]

it implies you don't use the item on pull with cds

[waxen oyster]

so i can watch people's brains implode

[haughty flicker]

i wanna blast

[waxen oyster]

(do not)

[jaunty sky]

yeah on pull no stacks

[real pike]

yeah but I'm being treated like an idiot for pointing out that can be annoying

[jaunty sky]

its not annoying

u just do less dmg on pull

[real pike]

for me it is

[haughty flicker]

well you said you have to play differently, which is just factually incorrect

[royal lantern]

how is it annoying

it just has no stacks on pull

which means on pull its weak

and after that strong

[real pike]

the wording on that explanation implies to me that you hold CDs until you have stacks

pretty clearly imo

[runic hinge]

No. You hold the trinket

???

[haughty flicker]

[real pike]

"essentially skipping your cooldowns on pull"

makes it sound like you don't use CDs on pull

[jaunty sky]

the trinket is skipping your CDs on pull

cause it does nothing on pull

[real pike]

yes I understand that now it's been explained

but the wording is ambiguous

[waxen oyster]

???

[runic hinge]

Weird how everyone else got it

[real pike]

when I read it I thought you skipped your cooldowns on pull

and waited until you had stacks

[humble verge]

i couldnt pad myself on to r1

i had 5 fps

on the "last" phase

where he drags

[real pike]

weird how no one can even see why I might have thought that

[humble verge]

wait nvm

prolly 3 fps

[real pike]

just takes a bit of critical thinking

[runic hinge]

Imagine if you used critical thinking

[humble verge]

i crit

my thinking

[real pike]

cool means nothing but sure

crazy to be unable to see any viewpoint other than your own

people just want to feel superior ig

[haughty flicker]

[runic hinge]

[jaunty sky]

[waxen oyster]

[delicate smelt]

i get it, rngesus must be with you. At least they should make them decent. All of them are purge garbage on all of rogue specs 😄

[clever sparrow]

is the hybrid build out of meta?

[delicate smelt]

is there any loot table from delves? Any crit/mastery weapons?

[balmy condor]

yes

[clever sparrow]

so what are the main builds? just bleed one?

last time i checked wow head i still saw the hybrid

[jaunty sky]

!builds

[prisma monolith]

Bleed vs Hybrid vs Cleave/FI builds
Broad rules and Section in Guide:

1. If you have to ask, you should play bleed
2. If you're not doing +20's or higher, you should play bleed
3. Even if you're doing higher, you should probably play bleed
4. No, Fatebound is not good, you play Deathstalker in every key.

Some general concepts as to why people play different things:

• 11.2/Season 3: Bleed has gotten stronger through some buffs and the single target damage you get from singular focus is ridiculously good with the tier set. During PTR testing many high end rogues were just playing bleed everywhere.
• Ease of play: Bleed build is simply the easiest to play due to subterfuge/no kingsbane/less need for giant prio targets
• Boss damage: The cleave build is mainly for boss damage (note: not prio, there is no significant difference in prio). Assa single target in keys is pretty bad, and some bosses during season 2 were not possible on high keys otherwise. It remains to be seen what push keys in Season 3 will bring in that regard.
• Specific Dungeons: Rookery as an example is very boss-heavy, especially the last boss, making bleed less ideal. Rookery is not in the rotation in Season 3, and there are a lot of AoE dungeons. Dawnbreaker might be a candidate, but unsure currently.
• Where the damage is: Bleed spreads out its damage and does great overall due to sudden demise and powerful 3-8 target damage. Hybrid is competitve but doesn't pull ahead outside of low target cleave and higher target AoE. Cleave is for single target damage and insanely large aoe because of how much caustic and crimson tempest carry aoe damage. At the end of the day, the builds are extremely similar, but Bleed is looking to simply be the best.

[half tartan]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[balmy condor]

yes

[golden loom]

well I got to padd on araz

[haughty flicker]

what the helly

[buoyant herald]

Man I see all you guys link details and I’m just 😱

[waxen oyster]

I need my 2p

[clever sparrow]

NICE I LOVE BLEED 😄

ty

[buoyant herald]

My guild is full of guys who just blow every add up instantly every fight

[delicate smelt]

should i drop 4set for new 2set?

[golden loom]

I mean we had infinite deaths

[buoyant herald]

Imagine being allowed to pad lol

[golden loom]

so I got to padd like thanos

[buoyant herald]

Ahhhh that’s the key

Murder my teammates

[buoyant herald]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-notes-noted-gif-26232003

[pliant remnant]

that's crazy

[nova kelp]

padding like thanos is a diabolical term

[buoyant herald]

I think it works here though

[haughty flicker]

imagine if you had ct

[safe swift]

what do we craft? weapon still?

[viscid spear]

https://tenor.com/view/coraline-dad-type-gif-13169103074993680968

Whispyr for the first month of a new patch, having to answer all the questions in Assassination chat

[waxen oyster]

singular focus above kb

is so funny

[haughty flicker]

wait you said araz earlier

thats not araz

[golden loom]

oh

wait

[hexed root]

how strong is writhing armor band versus not at all, should I trust the sim?

[golden loom]

whatever..

[real pike]

yea first craft weapon

[haughty flicker]

[thorn thorn]

@balmy condor Status report

He gave up on outlaw

He was struggling to play outlaw and also determine what a circle was

He playing sin now

[safe swift]

what trinkets are BiS for us atm for M+?

[hexed root]

embellishments be damned https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/pjoFde33SFdZbPD2G4wv8P

[gritty laurel]

is that your crafted weapon in offhand?

[hexed root]

it was

[digital venture]

!loot

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1404831391778078741/assa.webp

[worldly bridge]

how do u manage dst mark on araz it feels terrible

[hexed root]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-the-neat-part-you-dont-invincible-gif-27194608

[hearty seal]

ye you just don't
it falls off, you reapply it with vanish, you hope to hell it's back up when he comes back

[real pike]

this is the raid that finally forces me to learn fatebound

deaths without the extra defensives are gonna go crazy

[proven willow]

tf do i do with this if i have lily already

[haughty flicker]

replace lily ig

one use do be on use

[proven willow]

i needa use both for a bit

lil is 704 tho so idk want to bind to mark

[haughty flicker]

ok well thats cursed

[worldly bridge]

even CD management is garbage or im omegastupid

u cant lineup with dmg amp and u gotta send on pillar if u wanna send on cd

correct?

[hearty seal]

that was my experience, yes

or you're sitting on DM for like maybe 40-50 secs

[real pike]

https://lorrgs.io/spec_ranking/rogue-assassination/forgeweaver-araz?difficulty=heroic

the way it just goes to shit halfway through

[hearty seal]

like the bastard just goes away
exactly when you wanna send

it's as though they want you to play FB for 1.5m timers instead

but that means you tank fucking damage when an add comes in, and there's a lot of adds there still

[maiden girder]

hey guys, i got signet of priory on hero and Lily of Eternal Weave on Champion, i saw that lily sims a little better, still worth to upgrade the signet tho and use it since its hero right?

[rugged sphinx]

!talents

[real pike]

sim what it would be if you upgraded it

[hexed root]

!sim

[balmy condor]

1. always hold vanish to apply mark after intermissiong
2. dm/kb/shiv for the damage amp every time, you'll have to hold it
3. hold you darkest night to swap to the echoes twice per the first intermission

[drifting cedar]

Is deathstalker mark bugged as fuck on some bosses?

[balmy condor]

yes and no

it's really just araz

[hearty seal]

not sure
I think I lost it when it should've applied once today

[golden loom]

never playing araz as DS again

even if theres infinite aoe

[hexed root]

what about during the collectors?

[hexed root]

same

[balmy condor]

it's really not that bad

[hexed root]

just gonna do FB/caustic

[balmy condor]

you just gotta hold everything for the amp

[golden loom]

lost my mark on pillar first pull I played it and swapped to fatebound

[hearty seal]

tbh I outdamaged everyone in my raid even when I lost mark on Araz at like 30%

[hexed root]

idk why fb/caustic isn't a build on wowhead still, even exile was jamming it, just seems to make sense. I guess I could just sim it

[unique kernel]

I feel like I'm doing shitloads of damage in M+ currently - like a LOT more than anyone else. Is it just the base buffs to our abilities combined with previous 4pc, or will the new 2pc/4pc see big performance gains in M+ as well? I fail to see how Shiv uptime can increase the damage similar to previous 4pc

[hearty seal]

caustic slaps silly this tier

[balmy condor]

yeah I mean that's fine

[haughty flicker]

assa stronk

[marsh fjord]

So i got netherprism how would i use it? because if i run 1:30 it wont fully stacked. and im not sure if i run 2 minutes if its fully stacked

[balmy condor]

you just vanish apply it on the amp

[real pike]

a lot of people just won't have 4pc or even 2pc or weapon craft

[golden loom]

yeah I had no idea it did that so I had vanished to mark echo previously

so played lust damage amp with no mark

[balmy condor]

it full stacks in about 3:30, with 4pc fatebound you optimally want to use it every 3 (can macro to vanish), otherwise macro to dm

[golden loom]

seeing this tho just means it should be DS but..

[balmy condor]

it is

[golden loom]

fatebound felt so good

[marsh fjord]

If i macro it to DM. wouldnt it reset again when i press it at 1:30?

[hexed root]

is it? the one fatebound listed doesnt use caustic

[balmy condor]

yeah

[balmy condor]

??????

yeah no shit

single target build doesn't take caustic

[hexed root]

but you just said a caustic fatebound spec was on wowhead, is it somewhere else?

[golden loom]

well u swap 1 talent

[marsh fjord]

What would be the most optimal whispyr? for prism. just not macro it and press it only at full stacks with cooldowns? or would you just macro it. and dont think about it.

[balmy condor]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/rogue/assassination/manaforge-omega-raid-tips

[frigid pilot]

holy fuck, 2pc is 450k dps for fatebound

HUH

[balmy condor]

literally everywhere idk

[clever sparrow]

which build do we use in raid? we always go raid cleave on bosses with mobs?

[hexed root]

Gotcha, it's under the raid section, not the talent build section

[clever sparrow]

cant we just get caust on FB one 😄

[balmy condor]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/rogue/assassination/manaforge-omega-raid-tips

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/rogue/assassination/manaforge-omega-raid-tips

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/rogue/assassination/manaforge-omega-raid-tips

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/rogue/assassination/manaforge-omega-raid-tips

read the fuck ass guide people

holy hell

[clever sparrow]

his mad

[scenic temple]

https://tenor.com/view/reading-sign-cant-stop-me-no-one-can-stop-me-gif-13921932

[clever sparrow]

im sorry

i wont ask again

💔

[balmy condor]

I write all this shit just for people to ping me what talents to play

I ain't chatgpt man

[candid sun]

Guide too hard to read what play talent

[frigid pilot]

but u could be

[candid sun]

Need more pictures

[clever sparrow]

tbh i never read that 😭
it does make sense

[frigid pilot]

!whispyrAI

!whisyprGPT

[frigid lagoon]

ok i might be washed

[clever sparrow]

YES give us more picture

[unique kernel]

Whispyr what should I eat today

[candid sun]

Text make me drool

Rerolling warrior

[hexed root]

dumb suggestion, can you add a link on the "talent builds" section to a "Here's recommended specs for each raid boss" or whatever? I honestly didn't know you had talents listed outside of the talent build section, I use other resources for raid guides so completely missed it.

[balmy condor]

I don't control the template

[hexed root]

fair enough

[formal harness]

what are ppl saying to bleed build on demon hunter boss? 😄

[thorn thorn]

Yall made whispyr mad

[frigid pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-among-us-astronaut-space-betrayal-gif-23836476

[royal lantern]

Staff only leaks??

[real pike]

am I right that last season the raid section allowed you to click into the builds for each boss to see them on screen, but this time wowhead only lets you copy the string?

[balmy condor]

it's fine

[balmy condor]

yes

[real pike]

another great wowhead success

[formal harness]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/7GrpWBgf3qZcawjT?fight=last&type=damage-done bleed felt rly good for sure

[agile locust]

Are people simming gear for both FB ST and DS cleave builds? And planning on having two different gear sets for each build?

[midnight atlas]

!macro

[prisma monolith]

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[marsh fjord]

Only thing you do is simming trinkets around

[agile locust]

Thanks, I’m guessing secondary stats are so close together if doesn’t matter

[marsh fjord]

yes

[agile locust]

And just use patchwerk for both specs?

[real pike]

guessing a 1 min 30 on use is as good as necessary when playing 4pc fatebound?

[marsh fjord]

ofcourse yes.

[marsh fjord]

Yes. lily or prism

[main basalt]

Evening, for m+ bleed build do I use 2p set asap I get it or only 4p? Thanks

[balmy condor]

pins

[main basalt]

Thanks

[marsh fjord]

Whispyr if i would macro prism to my vanish. wouldnt it be used outside of my cooldowns if im 1:30?

or is that not a big deal?

[balmy condor]

no

if you're fatebound 4pc, you would be vanishing every 3min

[marsh fjord]

oh you hold vanish ofcourse

for the DM window

on 3 minutes

yes

And how would you use it in m+

if you play DS

[balmy condor]

macro'd to deathmark

[night vessel]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[marsh fjord]

Cheers < 3

not a bad day today

only normal but still cool to see 🙂

tomorrowe we go HC

[worn jacinth]

is the delve belt broken in sims?

[marsh fjord]

no?

why would it be

[balmy condor]

it's easier to ask for forgiveness than permission, I'm just gonna do this

[worn jacinth]

idk my lower ilvl belt sims much better but i see literally everyone using the delve belt so im just curious

[balmy condor]

do you have a power selected

[hexed root]

1000/10

[marsh fjord]

Also @balmy condor just to clarify when we are in DS raid build you put prism also on the 2 minut mark right. so just macro it with DM?

just changing all my macro's around

[velvet ridge]

when we CT the little xalatinis do we get the multi target CT buff

[haughty flicker]

xalatinis lmao

if you mean the affix orbs in m+ yes they count

[velvet ridge]

nice

[candid cove]

are we playing bleed build or hybrid in keys rn ?

[pure moth]

Bleed

[willow wren]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1403486905915408524/Dark_Mode.jpg

[hoary scroll]

why do i first shiv in opener as fatebound?

[golden loom]

to buff coins flipped by DM, does big dam

[spice surge]

Coins go brr

[buoyant herald]

Tails coin does big cosmic (scaled by nature) damage

[spice surge]

So shiv makes coins go more brr

[hoary scroll]

thx ❤️

[woven ruin]

What was everyone playing on forgeweaver?

[pastel roost]

Nice haul for a 1st Hroic evening :p

[buoyant herald]

I just played FB since my guild blows adds up crazy fast and I didn’t want to worry about mark hijinks but others have had better success with DS I think

[fierce sigil]

is it correct that 2 Set 2 Set on Fatebound ST sims round about 500K higher than Deathstalker with 2 set 2 set?

[clever sparrow]

on FB build when we do full cp envenom?

[fierce sigil]

Im simming 3.3 Mio on DS ST and 3.8 Mio on FB... that seems crazy

[humble verge]

my guild is denying me to cata 2p @balmy condor

[candid cove]

how much crit should i be looking to aim for

[runic hinge]

!stats

[candid cove]

!stats

[pure moth]

You just follow the sims.

[amber fossil]

!vanish

[velvet ridge]

i just got fucking 20 coin flip

[honest needle]

when we get 4 set we only use shiv on seathstalker mark right ?

[buoyant herald]

You don’t aim for crit, you aim for ilvl generally. Assass likes all stats, there’s no dump stat like haste for sub or mastery for outlaw

[wide atlas]

do anyohe haves a good weakaura for using shiv in the right time? anything that can help with that is appreaciated

[manic matrix]

is screams of forgotten sky bis with buffs?

[buoyant herald]

Maybe for outlaw on longer fights

Needs to stack the damage up

[crimson snow]

yo guys, is anyone having a problem where luxthos wa doesnt track coin flip stacks? ty x

[meager tinsel]

!wa

[balmy condor]

you don't

[hexed root]

both taz dungs have some bad bosses

[balmy condor]

I don't think he tracks it

[autumn folio]

Is it worth to drop old 4 set for new 2 set?

[balmy condor]

pins

[crimson snow]

REEEE ok ty pal

[rugged sphinx]

!wa

[main bridge]

prism in tw box

[hexed root]

is there a good fatebound m+ build? >.>

[pure moth]

No

[main bridge]

if you read the nice guide Whispyr wrote you'd know that it's for ST and falls off as soon as there are any adds

[quaint dragon]

!up

[hexed root]

oh im aware its a ST spec

im just hating deathstalkers on some 10s

[quaint dragon]

!crests

[main bridge]

the bot vanished none of these are gonna work

[quaint dragon]

oh okay i thought i was trippin

[marsh fjord]

Does someone know how to start a surrender vote in m+

[humble verge]

/abandon

idk if it works

[marsh fjord]

yah it doesnt work for some reason

[humble verge]

cause it hasnt

lol

well

its FIRST DAY of keys

dont expect much

[wide atlas]

hi guys can you help me get better at using shiv