hero in vault
#assassination
umbral sigil
weary pebble
is one of them a chest
weary pebble
well the chest is not great i think, the other 4 pieces are better stats
but dont take my word for it
umbral sigil
tropic jewel
if i will get lucky tomorrow and get one in my vault i will have instantly 4 set in the evening that would be pretty dope but as i know my vault luck there are no set pieces in my vault
weary pebble
wowhead guide says versa is the worst stat and chest is a versa piece
but i donno i didnt sim it or anything
umbral sigil
meh
weary pebble
it also says the BiS boots are versa while theres a crit/mastery boots from M+
cold marten
Alright in blasting 2’s with bleed is this the play till 12’s? Or if changes happen
main bridge
Alright in blasting 2’s with bleed is this the play till 12’s? Or if changes hap...
in s3 it's all bleed all the time
cold marten
Oh fr ok
umbral sigil
never not bleed
weary pebble
oh wait the boots are special 😛
umbral sigil
i was about to say
chilly marsh
is that right? 19.51% for 2p tier upgrade?
umbral sigil
the boots are bis for a reason lol
chilly marsh
god thats huge
gritty laurel
it also says the BiS boots are versa while theres a crit/mastery boots from M+
2 things: secondaries don't really matter on assa unless you're giga stacking one or something like that, and BiS lists only exist to drive SEO. they aren't a bible
umbral sigil
2 things: secondaries don't really matter on assa unless you're giga stacking on...
wowhead marketer meetings must go crazy
weary pebble
im giga stacking crit and mastery anyway, but i forgot the boots have the reshii wraps thingie
visual sun
fk me, didnt know u can get tier in delve vault slot. not that i was taking notes for the past 2 season -_-
visual sun
yeah delve row all hero, dungeons are capped at champ
oblique kiln
macro KB, Vanish and cold blood together in that order?
oblique kiln
humble verge
NA cashiers 
umbral sigil
NA cashiers <:garf_sit:1334889429449314456>
fuck classic wow, thats a classic setup
humble verge
fuck classic wow, thats a classic setup
but u see the TWW logo dawh
dawg
y so angy
umbral sigil
NA cashiers <:garf_sit:1334889429449314456>
fuck iframes thats 1frames
humble verge
xd
umbral sigil
i just laughed so my hard my stomach hurts
keen spruce
NA cashiers <:garf_sit:1334889429449314456>
If they leave it open is the money free?
humble verge
If they leave it open is the money free?
depends
weary pebble
@balmy condor if i may ask, why is potion+trinket before shiv, on FB single target? shouldnt it be after shiv, and maybe macro'd to deathmarkt
humble verge
is the camera online
keen spruce
<@167090536602140682> if i may ask, why is potion+trinket before shiv, on FB sin...
Somethin about mastery and talents and somethin
Ordering changed cuz math
Oh wait nvm I misread. But still same answer
Probably my doesn’t matter much but math
weary pebble
also wouldnt it be better to use trinket a few secs after using kingsbane with 4 set
to last til the end of it
and orc/maghar orc racial
or 2 set i mean
main bridge
damn these new transmogs are 🔥
weary pebble
well it would make more sense to me if the lily trinket would cover the later ticks of kingsbane rather than the first ones
and it lasts 15 sec, and kingsbane with 2 set is like 19 sec maybe?
balmy condor
<@167090536602140682> if i may ask, why is potion+trinket before shiv, on FB sin...
it doesn't matter big dog
balmy condor
when it sims worse than a belt you have
indigo mulch
Sim.
red copper
👍
indigo mulch
Are the new kb changes merged to simc yet?
weary pebble
<:bruh:839370668817514567>
are you saying its not 0.1% better otherwise?
indigo mulch
Or bug fixes
balmy condor
I'm saying macro it however you want
weary pebble
well from a theorycrafting perspective im just curious whats best
balmy condor
from a theorycrafting perspective it doesn't matter
weary pebble
alright if you say so milord 😄
weary pebble
what about using lily trinket a few seconds after activating kingsbane so it wouldnt cover the entire deathmark but it would cover kingsbane til the last tick
balmy condor
that's definitely wrong
unborn wharf
can you macro vanish to kingsbane for fatebound?
weary pebble
that's definitely wrong
hmmk im gonna trust you on this because well, you are my rogue lord of knowledge
keen spruce
timeline tool just rather stinky
kindred breach
Gl for your prog my fellow thieves ❤️
keen spruce
they coded the timeline widget like the one button rotation helper
simultaneous events and conditional notes make it very angry
balmy condor
I have secret technology that I might try to get the off-gcd stuff better stacked
but not sure if it works
keen spruce
in S1 I did a full paint retooling of the timeline and was gonna send it to you
but someone asked about the timeline and why it was wrong in chat while i was workin on it
and you crashed out about how dogshit the tool was
so I didn't send it
balmy condor
yeah
I mean ideally I would just stack all the off gcd stuff
I'm gonna try it
and see if it bricks
keen spruce
(it's gonna brick)
weary pebble
by tomorrow we'll be starting our rotation with poisoned knife
keen spruce
I used to throw poison knives during downtime on boss fights so it would show up on logs
in case someone pulled one of mine as an example
it never caused the ruckus I wanted
weary pebble
was a noble cause though
keen spruce
it still felt good to do it
candid sun
Lil bit of trolling
spice spire
it never caused the ruckus I wanted
Yeah because ur shit
cold marten
are we supposed to run kingsbane?
keen spruce
every knife fling u can feel the green names needing to sneeze or getting an itchy toe or something
normal mist
depends
keen spruce
Yeah because ur shit
no mythic 100's in my retirement season
didn't even orange the last 4 bosses
humble verge
@balmy condor this is the autist u are actively arguing with, the average stupid guy who lifts weights
keen spruce
old and washed and bald
keen spruce
<@167090536602140682> this is the autist u are actively arguing with, the averag...
missed opportunity to white out your face with that bunny
humble verge
missed opportunity to white out your face with that bunny
i just did this in remix
keen spruce
my disappointment is immesurable
hallow kettle
whats a cheap temporary enchant on shit weps until i get something decent ilvl?
keen spruce
whats a cheap temporary enchant on shit weps until i get something decent ilvl?
just a rank 2 of the good one
normally
main bridge
<@167090536602140682> this is the autist u are actively arguing with, the averag...
where are the triceps brah
hallow kettle
ty shmeeps
main bridge
humble verge
where are the triceps brah
hidden in my fat
humble verge
my disappointment is immesurable
sorry, dont have editing app on my phone
keen spruce
@subtle fractal
spice spire
<@167090536602140682> this is the autist u are actively arguing with, the averag...
I see the arms coming in king
Keep going
viscid spear
This really is best ST? 
humble verge
keen spruce
♫ huh, how you do it like that ♫
♫ damn, you got titties on your back ♫
balmy condor
This really is best ST? <:concernedfrog:754387154045632660>
no I put that in the guide to bait you specifically
humble verge
I see the arms coming in king
honest needle
is ara kara sac brood trinket good for us ?
viscid spear
no I put that in the guide to bait you specifically
humble verge
is ara kara sac brood trinket good for us ?
its ok
keen spruce
mack is deep in the system
humble verge
u would rather have forge/lily and pace
keen spruce
not even the wowhead timeline widgit can get rid of him
subtle fractal
Mack is my government name
humble verge
signet if u dont get either of those
subtle fractal
(Discord)
keen spruce
Mack is my government name
i'm sorry mister juice
humble verge
this me when i sit on da bench
keen spruce
bigjuice chillin on the roof
hallow kettle
what fiber do i want in my cloak
keen spruce
what fiber do i want in my cloak
can you clarify the question
you mean what enchant?
subtle fractal
Mushroom fiber is good
broken totem
do we know when to switch from old tier to new tier yet? wait until we have all new 4pc or is 2pc of each good?
subtle fractal
(I don’t belong in spec channels I’ll see myself out)
keen spruce
do we know when to switch from old tier to new tier yet? wait until we have all ...
2+2 big upgrade
in st
hallow kettle
"Precise Fiber" basically what should i upgrade that to
keen spruce
oh idk what that even is
I should also see myself out
wait no it's in the guide too
why you do this to me
hallow kettle
ty man. i was looking at the s3 cheat sheet and didnt see it
keen spruce
almost every time I answer a question in here, I go to the wowhead guide and ctrl+f
it has yet to fail me
humble verge
my disappointment is immesurable
keen spruce
livid marlin
Hey hey, anything else I should specificly track?
balmy condor
cause it is mighty jank
balmy condor
that's exactly what I did
keen spruce
my man
balmy condor
idk why the box has so much fucking border space
static ocean
Hello frens, I promise I checked the guide and the pinned. On the cheatsheet and "Talent Builds" the builds are not the same 🙂
humble verge
Hello frens, I promise I checked the guide and the pinned. On the cheatsheet and...
cause there are multiple ones
it probably just doesnt link the right one idk
humble verge
well then this guy is doing a me
static ocean
<:hm:1228583333718524008>
This one links to a Kingsbane build while the Cheatsheet link to full bleed/execute build
hot pasture
improved wound poison talent for 7/8 boss?
mild copper
Question, whats the difference on rotation between hybrid and bleed build?
balmy condor
This one links to a Kingsbane build while the Cheatsheet link to full bleed/exec...
interesting
balmy condor
improved wound poison talent for 7/8 boss?
no
you never take wound poison on assa
unless you enjoy losing a fuck ton of damage for fun
hot pasture
okay thanks ajkaj
restive falcon
what bosses we going fatebound and deathstalker 
burnt star
when do we use vanish on fatebound after opener
balmy condor
the lazy way would be to vanish with KB just macro'd
otherwise I think it's slightly better to vanish with DM every 3 min
but unsure how the math adds up on that
frozen glacier
!macro
candid geyser
trinket farm is going great guys 🫠
quaint spindle
when we replace the delve belt
burnt star
it was working in keys earlier
randomly stop working in keys for me
main bridge
buggy ass game
burnt star
otherwise I think it's slightly better to vanish with DM every 3 min
ooo right.. dm is 1min30 with 4 set
i didnt get why on 3 min.. didnt make sens XD
im an idiot
raven locust
Crafting gilded weapon right away is fine?
placid sparrow
whats the macro for DM trink tempered ?
indigo thicket
is crimson tempest the play on soul hunters?
acoustic lotus
might be blind and dont see in pins. when do we break old 4 set?
for deathstalker
burnt star
right away
well sim yourself
for fatebound its huge.. but for ds.. it was still an upgrade for me to break
Even at normal
quaint flare
has kb been fixed with the tier
burnt star
!macro
fleet pagoda
hello, my favorite channel of muscular, vascular men. have yall had any luck acquiring a delver's bounty so far? seems you can't force one with the delve boss this tier, based on my attempts
placid sparrow
you need to have rank 2
fleet pagoda
oh in the delve progression. I see it now. thanks brother
main bridge
FB is pretty fun. feels fast-paced compared to DS ST
burnt star
FB is pretty fun. feels fast-paced compared to DS ST
not having to deal with deathstalker
is so good
main bridge
yeah
manic terrace
Do yall struggle with energy upkeep in ST? I find myself auto attacking a few times
main bridge
!design
cold marten
i do yes
placid sparrow
which bosses are we FB on ? i think its 3 of them
snow hamlet
!fuu
placid sparrow
i think plex, loom , and someone else but i cant remember 3rd
remote heath
The giant golem that makes walls
placid sparrow
fract got it
torn valve
do Blindside procs automatically swap mut to ambush or do i need a macro?
main bridge
they do
candid plinth
maybe its a stupid question, still have 4 set from lst tier, do i keep the raid ST talent from last tier, or do i go right away to fatebound build?
torn valve
ok cool i wasnt sure if i was imagining it or not
main bridge
bot dead
main bridge
celest inlet
!WA
hexed root
forgemaster araz is the worst designed boss when it comes to deathstalker's mark QQ
fervent willow
does killing last boss/m+ io reward a tier token?
burnt star
does killing last boss/m+ io reward a tier token?
aotc/2k io, gives a catalyst charge
not a token
thin lichen
Returning Assa Main this season. Was curious if bloodmallet is just outdated or not reflecting actual data yet? Because it doesn't have Astral's or Araz's as top two.
haughty flicker
bloodmallet is fatebound profile
thin lichen
ah okay.
velvet ridge
man, what are yall playing on council DH
thin lichen
dont dsm a pylon
lol, that sucks.
analog idol
!fuu
viscid light
Guys does cloak work on the runaway in loomithar?
frozen glacier
fatebound is such a nice change of pace
haughty flicker
Guys does cloak work on the runaway in loomithar?
yes
on lfr and normal at least
thin lichen
Speaking of Fatebound, what is the single target boss's name in the raid?
haughty flicker
fractillus is the main oe
thin lichen
Thank You
haughty flicker
but first boss is also basically st
thin lichen
So FB on First and Frac?
whole mantle
hey guys, on single with bleed build i keep auto attacking waiting untill 50% energy to envenom?
burnt star
ya i can 100% confirm.. make sure u have no more deathstalker mark when pylon has no more hp.. they dont actually die so they dont give darkest night
fleet pagoda
burnt star
So FB on First and Frac?
loomithar is also s.t
main bridge
do we play DS on Dimensius?
languid light
What is the first crafting that is going to be done for rogue assassination?
balmy condor
dagger like every season
compact plover
you stay stealthed going into dimensius fight so no issues there
ocean ore
before we got 4p should i run deathstalker?
indigo mulch
Fatebound is a head slightly on st. But very slightly if I remember correctly
fallow canopy
do we play DS on Dimensius?
looks pretty cringe with the intermissions ngl
indigo mulch
So play w/e
fallow canopy
but haven't tried myself
main bridge
looks pretty cringe with the intermissions ngl
yeah i'm fighting him now and it's not totally clear but so far the adds die so fast that it doesn't seem worth
fallow canopy
killed him with my monk today but it looks kinda ass for DS
that was my train of thought too
fb angle even tho it may gimp itself at times
sweet delta
is it normal to run out of energy in st?
fallow canopy
!design
main bridge
yes
fallow canopy
oh moroes vanished
indigo mulch
Rip
ocean ore
Fatebound is a head slightly on st. But very slightly if I remember correctly
can we proc the capstone of it withou tier set? full time
indigo mulch
No
fallow canopy
without 2p its 50/50 iirc
gritty sorrel
is 2 pc worth going for on all specs?
ocean ore
ok
indigo mulch
For assa it is.
white marten
!ui
eternal hawk
deathstalkers mark is fucked on araz despairge
burnt star
YA.. thats what i was complaining about lol
frigid pilot
this is legit right
lethal swallow
misty holly
this is legit right
dang is it? I just passed on a ritual forge
frigid pilot
i mean its liquid's new website
regal idol
mark is so cursed on dimensius oh my god
frigid pilot
so just use at 18 stacks?
coral ibex
that fuckin sucked
frigid pilot
i watched the vid , cant remember shit
indigo mulch
I don't remember either but I think it was that you use it whenever you have vanish up
keen spruce
4th best on bloodmallet, listed in Overall and raid bis list on wowhead, and recommended on that random website apparently
keen spruce
🥳
uneven plume
indigo mulch
nova flax
how do we use the prism thingy 
hexed root
2pc just a slight dps increase
formal pewter
bright moth
once we have 2pc do we swap faitbound for ST?
vapid terrace
nova raven
Cries in EU
hexed root
150k dps vs 550k
gentle sonnet
Maybe it’s been answered already but sim says I should break my 4 set. Send it or wait for 2 set at least?
keen spruce
Maybe it’s been answered already but sim says I should break my 4 set. Send it o...
just do what sim says
spare lodge
aight but do we play fatebound without new 2/4pc in ST (Fraccyboi)
uneven crag
bot is dead atm
rip does anyone else have a list of macros?
hearty seal
no councils, no duos, not even if there's an add consistently through the fight
uneven crag
wishful thinking, but still lol
keen spruce
rip does anyone else have a list of macros?
uh I mean the CB macro should just be
#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast cold blood
/cast vanish
/cast Kingbane
or something like that
coral ibex
"essential" spell density btw
keen spruce
I dunno the order
spare lodge
are we just bad or why is deathstalker winning on heroic frac https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/44?boss=3133&class=Rogue&spec=Assassination&difficulty=4
hexed root
people dont have tier yet
keen spruce
then for CDs it's just
#showtooltip Deathmark
/use 13
/use 14
/use Tempered Potion
/cast Deathmark
hearty seal
looking at FB talents rn (for the first time in like 8 months)
why tf are there not one, but two borderline useless nodes
proud dust
keen spruce
and shiv it's just
#showtooltip Shiv
/cast Thistle Tea
/cast Shiv
uneven crag
sweet, ty!
keen spruce
I'm just going off memory and idk if the ordering needs to be different but I'm pretty sure those are all about right
frigid pilot
showin up on dimensius platform and being like no vanish no DS debuff 
nova kelp
TFW
hearty seal
huh
that's like a 50% DPS increase compared to last season's dagger
young flicker
!wa
hollow talon
are there any major playstyle changes with fatebound on raid single target vs deathstalker
kind flint
How do u get Seal of the Panoply ring?
I dont see it in the loot table
for tazavesh
tiny pollen
!guide
tiny pollen
doesnt work? guide¿?
pliant remnant
doesnt work? guide¿?
Bot is dead, you might have to ask Grok or summin
honest needle
cant decide if i wanna play bleed build or hybrid is hybrid just as good or naw ?
marsh fjord
Why is this all zero lol
hexed root
Why is this all zero lol
because its day 1
everyones should be 0 on their personal page
i thought
marsh fjord
Oh no idea lol
chilly summit
usually for us its always 100s
pliant remnant
Yeh, it has no locked in logs to compare it against
At least I'm pretty sure that's how that works
hexed root
what peter said
marsh fjord
Yeah thought so
honest needle
what build u guys running for keys ?
coral ibex
guess
hexed root
caustic fb go crazy
i wonder why thats not a build listed on wowhead
buoyant herald
why would it be, you don't need a wowhead guide to tell you caustic is good with adds
umbral cypress
!wa
main bridge
why does Moroes keep vanishing?
hearty seal
why would it be, you don't need a wowhead guide to tell you caustic is good with...
ye but FB isn't supposed to be good with adds
quiet zephyr
is there any guide for rotation ?
quiet zephyr
thanks
buoyant herald
ye but FB isn't supposed to be good with adds
are the adds up 100% of the fight
weary spear
withou 4p we keep playing with bleed build in m+?
Doesn’t matter
hexed root
are the adds up 100% of the fight
almost
hearty seal
are the adds up 100% of the fight
FB kinda falls off with even 25% add uptime, I think? so basically adds have to exist
hearty seal
caustic just does more damage if adds exist at any time
like if 5% of the fight has multitarget, caustic will outdo internal
fast phoenix
pulled netherprism in timewalking chest
hexed root
seems like it should be whats listed instead of the deathstalker one but idk
raw marlin
eu vault time
hexed root
havent run the sims
sharp sinew
stat spread for assa is crit mastery yes?
raw marlin
@marsh fjord you awake?
marsh fjord
Yes
hexed root
fucking nerd
marsh fjord
But trying to sleep for 2 more hours since all the boys are starting at 8
raw marlin
But trying to sleep for 2 more hours since all the boys are starting at 8
boys at 8, men at now
marsh fjord
😂😂😂
inner swift
like to see it
hearty seal
time to check out the vault and then go to work
grand trail
head pog
hearty seal
yes
golden loom
champ track tier helm with socket 🔥
deep gyro
!loot
raw marlin
do we just instant change champ into tier or wait for hero track lol
hearty seal
do we just instant change champ into tier or wait for hero track lol
just run M+ for hero track IMO
+6 can't be that hard
silent breach
I can’t get an invite to m0 with 665 lol
marsh fjord
I can’t get an invite to m0 with 665 lol
make your own group
placid wave
the collectors on Azaz dropping my Mark is going to make me go beserk
silent breach
I spose
raw marlin
oh dw i got insta invited lol
silent breach
I’m at work rn : /
cloud musk
question: Do we realy wear all 5 setpieces? bis says so but tier chest seems bad
marsh fjord
question: Do we realy wear all 5 setpieces? bis says so but tier chest seems bad
The 5 tier pieces is made because our secondary stats dotn matter at all
so you can just pick
i would just sim yourself when you doing items
waxen oyster
lmao 3 heroic weapons
tacit hedge
What should we macro Nertherprisim to?
zenith prairie
The delve maps aren’t working this week right
Or whatever they are the mini boss thing
marsh fjord
They are. but you need level 2 first.
before you can actually get a map
which equal to using 17 coffer keys
honest needle
i cant decide between bleed or hybrid build
marsh fjord
i cant decide between bleed or hybrid build
bleed
wet tusk
do we break 4p for 2p/2p?
marsh fjord
things wont live long enough for hybrid
marsh fjord
do we break 4p for 2p/2p?
sim yourself. but yes
hearty seal
fucking vault
guess I'll just have to do m+ before raid
honest needle
so when is hybrid better ?
marsh fjord
so when is hybrid better ?
When you are the only one in your group with prio damage and your doing 20+ keys
honest needle
with bleed build u have to tab target for garrotes n stuff which i kinda got use to spamming on prio target
onlything i dont like
marsh fjord
You really dont have to
because you just play IC
and just garrote the same target over and over
serene solar
I didn't see any posts regarding aotc/m+ achievement giving token or cata charge so im assuming its cata charge still?
marsh fjord
its smart
marsh fjord
I didn't see any posts regarding aotc/m+ achievement giving token or cata charge...
2k is token yes
honest needle
IC ?
wet tusk
sim yourself. but yes
ty boss
honest needle
o nm
desert vault
!fuu
serene solar
2k is token yes
They went back to tokens again? So it isn't a cata charge like last season?
craggy basin
anyone else experiencing their CS not activating when they have DP/rup on a target? not sure if its just the devourer mobs during the weekly oasis stuff or what
marsh fjord
They went back to tokens again? So it isn't a cata charge like last season?
isnt a cata charge yes
it is*
serene solar
OH
marsh fjord
its just like last season
serene solar
dang alright thanks!
marsh fjord
i havent seen any information being it otherwise
marsh fjord
There are no tyanical weeks anymore
honest needle
cause my single target is ass
marsh fjord
it's always fortified + tyrnical higher up
Your single target doesnt matter because with bleed yhou do so much aoe
nova raven
we love vault rng 💔
marsh fjord
bro just play hybrid if you wanna play hybrid
marsh fjord
The DPS loss with hybrid is aoe damage
if you go hybrid in low keys
you are gimping your group
silent breach
Is there some threshold that you’d switch? Just curious
marsh fjord
Is there some threshold that you’d switch? Just curious
You mean to hybrid?
silent breach
Yeah
silent breach
Makes sense. I’m staying bleed anyway cuz it’s like a two talent switch to pvp. So it feels the same
marsh fjord
for 99% bleed is better, hybrid build is so situational
silent breach
And simpler rotation makes paying attention to the arena easier
marsh fjord
Bleed is really easy.
You bleed stuff. you press CT. death mark. 2x shiv. and you automatically do so much damage
it's really easy
honest needle
apress shiv 2x
marsh fjord
Yes. deathmark - shiv, 8 seconds later you press shiv again
crude helm
wheres the info on 2p + 2p sims?
marsh fjord
wheres the info on 2p + 2p sims?
What do you wanna know
lavish swan
IS 2p + 2p good for mythic plus or just ST
marsh fjord
Well if you would get 2p your deathstalker would do 60% more
that sounds really good for m+
lavish swan
It currently feels great
arctic shale
!wa
crude helm
What do you wanna know
just gains for 2p 2p on sub/assa
limber dew
!wa
marsh fjord
just gains for 2p 2p on sub/assa
2p was around 10% increase for me
gusty pagoda
anyone else having an issue with macros?! my tempered potion isnt being consumed along with my DM and trink. Macro should be correct but it wont work no matter how i change it
#showtooltip Deathmark
/use Tempered Potion
/cast Deathmark
/use 13
marsh fjord
anyone else having an issue with macros?! my tempered potion isnt being consumed...
Might be borked because your not using the correct item ID
gray hazel
Anyone have a coin WA that keeps track of all the coins?
The ones I’ve seen/tried only do one at a time
marsh fjord
use this
#showtooltip
/cast Deathmark
/use 14
/use item: 212265
/use Item: 212971
and see if it works
gusty pagoda
Might be borked because your not using the correct item ID
didnt even think of that to be honest
marsh fjord
❤️
primal egret
🙁
primal egret
I'm trying to get vanish on kingsbane but its not working for some reason.
earnest tendon
!wa
marsh fjord
That's prob because its on the gcd? i just press it after pressing KB
gusty pagoda
would it even be worth it to macro vanish in with KB?!
hexed canopy
is there a quest for ulduar raid clear?
marsh fjord
well in FB you always press it after kingsbane
fast phoenix
Getting hero tier from my delve vault slot and nether prism trinket from TW chest… finally this game blesses me
primal egret
would it even be worth it to macro vanish in with KB?!
ya its good now
gusty pagoda
ya its good now
ah yeah forgot the tier set makes it convenient to do so
amber lark
!fuu
weak plover
Does anyone have that details script that sums up deathmark damage?
heady oak
Is there anyway for us to break the xally orbs, AoE blind doesn't seem to work - am I dumb?
jovial totem
Guys is it possible that Caustic Spatter is bugged?
humble verge
bruh, 3rd rogue
quiet oriole
Didn't whispyr say not to macro vanish with KB for FB?
humble verge
2nd rogue actually pog socket
waxen oyster
having 3 heroic daggers is honestly kind of funny
winged quail
If you macro vanish to KB you will end up vanishing a naked KB instead of a DM kingsbane with 4p
waxen oyster
and yes, one rogue on team
balmy condor
Didn't whispyr say not to macro vanish with KB for FB?
you can before 4pc
humble verge
somehow i get double tier choice on my evo :(
marsh fjord
If you macro vanish to KB you will end up vanishing a naked KB instead of a DM k...
Don't you vanish anyway after KB?
because you CB there
glad ruin
Is it worth removing 4 set from s2 gear to get the higher ilvl non-set gear?
glad ruin
The sim I was trying wasn't working, was hoping someone had an easier answer
humble verge
why have i gotten 2 of these with speed as warband adventure track
winged quail
Don't you vanish anyway after KB?
Yes but with the new 4 set you want to vanish during deathmark + KB, but the 1:30 timer will screw you over and Vanish will go off with your 2:15 naked kingsbane instead of your 3 min KB + DM
humble verge
and now its with speed on hero in my vault
waxen oyster
it might just come with speed by default
humble verge
maybe?
marsh fjord
Yes but with the new 4 set you want to vanish during deathmark + KB, but the 1:3...
Yeah i know what you mean.
waxen oyster
i guess it makes sense
since the item asks you to run over green circles
repeatedly
humble verge
@balmy condor would MA be worse to pick over VV on FB st raid?
or does it sim "the same"
balmy condor
if it were better it would be recommended
prisma carbon
shoulders is our theoretical off piece?
nimble tartan
guys i got 2p, heroic boots, and araz ritual
humble verge
well
if you look on wowhead
it seems to be chest but
you get what you get from vault
frozen iris
with bleed build do you just dry shiv?
prisma carbon
i can take gloves or helm from vault
got a curio from normal and have pieces to catalyze
fringe spear
why have i gotten 2 of these with speed as warband adventure track
This trinket comes with speed always
You can even proc additional speed
Or another tert obv
humble verge
This trinket comes with speed always
ahhh, very vaulable then to speed builds
jaunty basin
which build are people runnning in m+ 10s atm ?
humble verge
still bleed
jaunty basin
after your ruptures fall off and you doint have a vanish are you target swapping adding garrots ?
dense anvil
got that hero track 3/6 nerfed trinket combo
jaunty basin
also it feels terribble in st
proven willow
i just got 697 lily trinket
silent breach
Use proc maintain bleeds yeah
proven willow
jaunty basin
with the bleed build inn st boss fights do we use ccrimson tempest/
proven willow
yes
silent breach
Does CT copy with death mark?
quartz cloak
Does CT copy with death mark?
No
raw marlin
wtf has happened to our damage, i am still without last season tier set and 665 total ilvl lol
i dont have this tier either
warm vortex
This seems kinda mid ngl
keen spruce
This seems kinda mid ngl
don't feel bad taking coins on week 1
best week to take them
woven ruin
What do we play for forgeweaver?
keen spruce
without having to leave myth track in the vault
night vessel
so i just checked the rankings for plexus sentinel. why are ppl playing deathstalker there?
warm vortex
don't feel bad taking coins on week 1
I mean a hero item is still a hero item
balmy condor
also idk how many people are actually aware that fatebound is better tbh
keen spruce
I mean a hero item is still a hero item
yeah but you can farm all of your hero items rn
golden loom
I played fatebound on all LFR bosses 
idk fatebound just feels so fkin snappy, its great
night vessel
got tier piece from vault and if i am lucky, i get 2p today
weary spear
This seems kinda mid ngl
Aren’t those set gloves
warm vortex
yeah but you can farm all of your hero items rn
True too
charred shard
first time playing m+ with the build with no kingsbane...sohuld i just slam shiv all time them or wait until targets are close to 30%
keen spruce
i should have 4p after our hc
you leveraging that 26% upgrade on the spreadsheet for loot prio? 
night vessel
and alot of outlaws up there in the rankings. no subs
earnest remnant
you leveraging that 26% upgrade on the spreadsheet for loot prio? <:Pepegrin:137...
no i do splits frog
and i got 1 piece in vault
rotund oak
idk fatebound just feels so fkin snappy, its great
smoked kyveza yday,FB feels nice
earnest remnant
so technically just need 1 piece from raid to have it
keen spruce
based
rotund oak
gonna send them LFRs now
keen spruce
not a frog 
rotund oak
so technically just need 1 piece from raid to have it
sub is just better
rotund oak
earnest remnant
shindig is doing a split on sub right now, and is nowhere to be seen on the meters
it is what it is
earnest remnant
nah he is pretty decent
keen spruce
imma tell him u called him only decent
raw marlin
i mean sin was nowhere to be seen in max splits either
keen spruce
rotund oak
imma tell him u called him only decent
keen spruce
there are only like 4 rogues i call good
Stealthi Perfecto Scana and Stealthi again
earnest remnant
nah i suck
keen spruce
rough nimbus
691 dagger or 694 set legs?
earnest remnant
Kush exile, nib tisumi
raw marlin
nah i suck
keen spruce
Kush exile, nib tisumi
quality list
night vessel
but isn't the "nowhere to be seen" implied in the class? i stealth from meters
rotund oak
nah i suck
ild slap u but ur screen is too smol to jump out from
night vessel
and its fine. gonna get buffed
keen spruce
ild slap u but ur screen is too smol to jump out from
don't slap the racoons
they bite
weary spear
and its fine. gonna get buffed
Yeah can’t wait till .7 patch
rotund oak
don't slap the racoons
bro has the lowest selfesteem,pisses me off coz he's really talented
keen spruce
Stealthi get 8/9 100 parses and calls himself shit for having a 99
or just blames speed run parse strats
elfin fossil
ugh, hc dagger or hc tier? :x
jade abyss
2/2 is better than 4p from old set?
keen spruce
2/2 is better than 4p from old set?
yep
night vessel
I can't even purple parse on sub or pirate
orange and 99 parses on outlaw last season, still have to play sin this tier
keen spruce
gotta beat like 3 people
earnest remnant
wouldnt be a 99 with only 10
keen spruce
(i can't beat 3 people)
raw marlin
wouldnt be a 99 with only 10
it would with bliz logic
keen spruce
here's my last time playing non-sin
raw marlin
here's my last time playing non-sin
too good, 6 month ban for auto pilot
earnest remnant
here's my last time playing non-sin
if i was good id have the last two as well
keen spruce
I have a clip of it from twitch
keen spruce
I didn't have ruptures on my shadow dance bars
and like 3 other keybinds were missing
raw marlin
if i was good id have the last two as well
y u screenshotting me?
night vessel
still think that was decent, even for outlaw ):
keen spruce
if i was good id have the last two as well
keen spruce
still think that was decent, even for outlaw ):
we're not allowed to gas up pirate players in here
earnest remnant
I didn't have ruptures on my shadow dance bars
good think you didn't rupture in dance then
raw marlin
night vessel
we're not allowed to gas up pirate players in here
okok i get that. but i am now a assasin, lurking in the shadows
raw marlin
^ outlaws
earnest remnant
stoopid frog
terse urchin
sry for dumb question, but im unsure what to pick from vault, do i go non tier hero piece or tier champion piece?
keen spruce
good think you didn't rupture in dance then
ok aside from the keybinds I also had no idea what I was doing
here's my last pirate logs
earnest remnant
ok aside from the keybinds I also had no idea what I was doing
this is the real stuff
keen spruce
Kurog was actually a real kill
earnest remnant
SPEED
hexed root
this is the real stuff
gamer
earnest remnant
the 27 second assault kill <:kekdog:907207037757296710>
still funny that people wanted us banned
for the aug summon tech
keen spruce
dirty cheaters
earnest remnant
just cause we discovered how to break them
drifting cloud
this is the real stuff
nice rigged chart
nimble tartan
fb caustic was nice on all the fights with adds
leaden timber
are we really bad on M+ boss
rotund oak
noob
keen spruce
then i had to run 2 bombs on sark
leaden timber
boss
keen spruce
so i grey parsed
leaden timber
not overall
humble verge
not overall
last boss
austere prairie
seeing kush blast on poison deathstalker warms my heart. fck fatebound and bleed spec yaaay
humble verge
why are you losin to bluemem
im bad at ST bleed
also
he was like
3,8 last season
keen spruce
3.6 pretty powerful
balmy condor
entire dungeon is 100% trash and all the bosses, that's just like if you have a big boss with like a 40bil healthpool
so obviously overall is the only thing that matters
(do not check the logic)
keen spruce
ranged players with ranged kicks can do the ranged kicking
can't kidney shot or it DRs the chaos novas
can't AoE blind cuz it DRs the blinding lights
brave stump
!gear
keen spruce
can't gouge cuz I don't have that on my bars
zenith elm
I wanna play but i'm at woooooooork
stable apex
hearty seal
can't gouge cuz I don't have that on my bars <:Cheesin:1004094333458317332>
why would you ever
keen spruce
why would you ever
look i forgot that it's a choice node when I typed that
still technically correct tho
hearty seal
2k is what
all 8s on avg?
raw marlin
streets is a nightmare for deathmark
holy shit
so many bosses that just dont 'die' so it doesnt transfer over
proven willow
streets and dawn are my least favorite
proven willow
im never running it enough to know that
keen spruce
or cancel flight and stealth in the air
proven willow
its tanks job
raw marlin
streets is cancer
proven willow
tank job or riot
proven willow
can hope tho
keen spruce
that's the path to ruin
proven willow
im nice in keys until the end
then i lecture them for every rogue they meet after me
silk shore
!sim
keen spruce
then i lecture them for every rogue they meet after me
yeah but then they run into me and I tell them to ignore rogues that complain about stealth
then they odn't know what to think
twin hull
when playing bleed build in m+...and yer at 6cp with the darkest night buff...what do you guys press? Fok or muti to apply the deathstalkers mark?
twin hull
wait so 6cp...i muti even though i will waste cp and energy? ON ST i.e over FOK?
keen spruce
I mean i guess you could run the math
proven willow
thats a weird scenario
keen spruce
but i think that mutilate still does enough damage
in ST
to make it better than a naked ST fan
even losing a CP
and some energy
half tartan
!sheet
north spruce
when to break S2 4-piece?
nimble tartan
man this raid is so fuckin good
keen spruce
it's likely not that impactful either way though
nimble tartan
the bosses feel awesome on heroic they are so tanky
orchid pewter
!up
twin hull
interesting....
cause i was pressing FOK into another FOK with clear the witnesses buff active
umbral sierra
what am i doing wrong
keen spruce
interesting....
cause i was pressing FOK into another FOK with clear the witness...
it's likely doesn't rly matter
umbral sierra
i got an error message when recrafting a wep to new spark with gilded crest
twin hull
what am i doing wrong
remove the 6 ilvl item on the right..the matrix
umbral sierra
ah
proven willow
what ilvl does gilded go to
umbral sierra
i was trying to select it and hit a box for empty but didnt see one didnt know i could right click to remove stuff
lol
720
nimble tartan
are the nerfs in simc latest yet or naw
balmy condor
yes
raw marlin
nerfs?
nimble tartan
ty boss
raw marlin
when did we get nerfs?
harsh silo
Is fatebound for ST only viable with the new tier set or should I go fatebound for ST even with the S2 set?
raw marlin
Is fatebound for ST only viable with the new tier set or should I go fatebound f...
yes
pins
harsh silo
Thank you
grizzled geyser
interesting....
cause i was pressing FOK into another FOK with clear the witness...
raw marlin
what am i doing wrong
what ilvl does base no crests craft at?
noble night
does anyone have recommendations for a good plater mod?
hallow glade
keen spruce
bot dead
high sundial
Wondering the same. Where to find whispyr's plater profile?
raw marlin
wago
high sundial
I only find the Afenar edit there, no plater
high sundial
Thank you!
vestal wren
high sundial
not sure how I didn't find that but thx again
raw marlin
!wa
prisma monolithBOT
Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
sterile swallow
Did fatebound in raid tonight for the recommended fights and that is a fun hero talent.
raw marlin
!fotm
prisma monolithBOT
FOTM Info
-
Fatebound is not playable in any AoE situation, and ESPECIALLY not in Mythic+. Don't bother.
-
Tuning is nowhere near done and realistically won't be until mid-September; unless you enjoy playing rogue there is no point in you rerolling at this time, we don't bring anything impactful (e.g big aoe stops/party buff) to the group
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PTR sheets and PTR sims are borderline misinformation with how rapidly things are changing and most sims are not currently updated at this time. Again, this will fix itself as we get deeper into the patch and things solidify, but judging a reroll off of PTR tier lists and random sims or seeing one guy pump super hard on a stream is not indicative of anything.
raw marlin
this should be 'no go away, rogue ours'
sharp sinew
Hey guys im a super outlaw sunk cost fallacy player looking to try out assa for this season. I have a shit load of crafted gear from s2 should i recraft the stats or just spam dngs as outlaw for assa gear and worry about the crafted stuff later into the season?
I havent crafted my 720 weap yet
raw marlin
Hey guys im a super outlaw sunk cost fallacy player looking to try out assa for ...
just play in that gear and get daggers
haughty flicker
you
sharp sinew
I have a couple mastery pieces for this season
sharp sinew
oooo okok
umbral sierra
what ilvl does base no crests craft at?
like 681 idr
sharp sinew
I got a couple of champ pieces from the raid today how important is mastery over crit?