assassination

[static glacier]

its just a bit reliant on pulling for its cds to do similar overall to sin / ol

idk about this season but previously subs st in m+ was really good

[pliant remnant]

good bait

solid stuff

[deft shard]

🫡

[cursive root]

you're probably not playing fatebound for aoe - it's the fotm spec

[umbral sigil]

Heard outlaw is doing really well rn

[deft shard]

its he best spec according to sim

its sad that it need like entirely differnet stats and weapon

would like to test it

[pliant remnant]

Yeh, it was by far the best rogue spec for all of Undermine too

[strange python]

in a dungeon aoe pull - whats the bleed build opener sequence please?

[pliant remnant]

'cause it simmed so high

[strange python]

i think outlaw just had really good bosses and really bad bosses. Think it performed really well when there was cleave but was bad on single target vs the other 2 specs

[humble verge]

not if u run MA

[marsh fjord]

Hmmm

[warm vortex]

Ma in raid?

[marsh fjord]

Trinket tuning again

[pliant remnant]

Nah nah, it was the best on all bosses

y'know, 'cause the sims

[strange python]

ah

[pliant remnant]

[lime onyx]

do either of these trinket tuning passes affect us at all? are any delve trinkets worth taking?

[tepid burrow]

Do we play araz trinket as fatebound, or ir lily better?

[deft shard]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/rogue/assassination/bis-gear

[tepid burrow]

the guide says two differnt things

[static glacier]

ir better for fb

lily**

[warm vortex]

Or just sim

[deft shard]

yeah just sim anyway

[maiden sierra]

Lily for fatebound

[golden loom]

well its the best 2 min trinket, so that applies to fatebound pre-tier and deathstalker

[maiden sierra]

Araz for deathstalker

[deft shard]

you will do only fatebound in all your gameplay like 4 boss raid

no mythic + nothing

araz better overall

[golden loom]

get both

[deft shard]

but if you have the 2 its better to switch for st

[warm vortex]

Tbh i thought fatebound would be like
Super RNG based when i first thought of it

But im hjappy it isnt

[lime onyx]

I mean it's passive rng, nothing u rly need to think about

[golden loom]

and the only annoying RNG is playing it without new tier

[warm vortex]

Ye
I'm thankful especially after seeing the shit MM has this season

[iron lynx]

Until tier would deathstalker just be better in pure st?

[golden loom]

nope

[lime onyx]

FB still better in pure ST just not by as big a margin without tier

[iron lynx]

Fatebound always in st got it, going to need a couple trinket sets to swap for raid then

[deft shard]

its 50/50

or has it changed?

[golden loom]

with 2 piece its 100%

[deft shard]

beofre the 2p

[golden loom]

pre tier its 50/50

[deft shard]

ye

so the answer is not entirely nope

BUT GAMBLINGGG

[warm vortex]

Btw
Is the KB edge case flip x2

Or is it just the DM flip that flips 2

[warm vortex]

Play MM

[golden loom]

with tier KB also does

[warm vortex]

Ah alr

Gotcha

Yea this sounds fun

As in

The KB and DM CDr

[dense cedar]

pressing more kb always good

💖

[humble verge]

yes i still am

[deft shard]

https://tenor.com/view/kb-kb-my-beloved-my-beloved-beloved-my-gif-17447151680559423718

[raw marlin]

GUYS

its my 2 year anniversary tomorrow

but also..

new season

[deft shard]

Time to get new gf

[pliant remnant]

disregard bitches acquire loot

👍🏿

[warm vortex]

Gratz! <3
Hope watever plans you have go well

[raw marlin]

so i have to call in sick to work so I can play ALL day ha

[raw marlin]

thank you! She is a keeper, said well do something saturday so you can game hahah

[split veldt]

wonder if this any good now

[dense cedar]

its a channel so evil garbage get away from me

[split veldt]

true, but only like 1 sec

[dense cedar]

1 sec too long

[split veldt]

yeah but grief torch was 2 seconds and one of the funnest trinkets ever, so idk lol

[normal mist]

The /w weakaura that thanked the teammates

for them dying

[raw marlin]

you know the weakaura that would whisper someone when the legendary was made or whatever it was in DF.. I still use that to this day to spam my mate lol

[fallow canopy]

A triumphant roar echoes from atop the Seat of the Aspects

[raw marlin]

except mine says

'haha you little bitch'

https://youtube.com/shorts/fdAjc-YYHSw?si=t7ghD_R5Uv3tm8vH

[shadow steppe]

so if i forgot to put my deathmark out what do i do waistea vanishor ?

[main bridge]

Reroll to hunter

[dense cedar]

vanish for it

wait

u mean like

DSM or DM?

[scenic vine]

DSM I assume

[dense cedar]

i assume to but just in case

[shadow steppe]

dsm sorry

[dense cedar]

yeah, vanish for it

otherwise u never get it

[scenic vine]

If it falls off or you forget to apply or anything, vanish fs

[raw marlin]

so this is an easy fix.

step 1. cry in discord/voice in any way possible about how they didnt let you apply it, even if it isnt their fault make sure to SCREAM louder and louder

step 2. play without DM so you do no DPS so that they feel really bad, make sure to miss other rotation abilities too

step 3. just afk for a min as its shit without it

step 4. repeat step 1

[shadow steppe]

lol so vanish gotja

[scenic vine]

step 5. roll the highest on the loot that drops because why not

[raw marlin]

oh yeah step 5, vanish but make sure to also moan about it as now you wasted a vanish

[faint rock]

Hi guys one question, this tier we dont break tier in any piece? We run all 5 items?

[raw marlin]

we run whatever sims more

[lapis shuttle]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1403486905915408524/Dark_Mode.jpg

[coral ibex]

where did you read that

[marsh fjord]

You sim yourself

With the pieces

[faint rock]

Just having to fill my guild bis and that

And have to indicate th eupgrades too

[scenic vine]

Wowhead bis has all 5 tier pieces slotted. But yeah, to venomblood, Sim yourself

[rotund oak]

yeah u shutdown the pc and go to your wife,also congrats!

[coral ibex]

WOWHEAD BIS LIST ALERT

stop looking at bis lists

they dont matter

they're not real

[hexed root]

Math is math

Thus bis is reql

[faint rock]

Ye ik, its the fastest thing to just fill the guild req

[coral ibex]

there are tens of gear combinations that sim within margin of error at max ilvl

[hexed root]

Real *

Acquisition however..

[faint rock]

i dont like it either xd

[coral ibex]

no

it isn't

[scenic vine]

Mine is monday and I'm going camping this weekend.. I told her the next 3 days I will be locking myself in the gameroom and not coming out.

[hexed root]

But it is

[coral ibex]

it literally is not

the sims show that to be the case

there are tens of gear combinations that sim within margin of error at max ilvl

there is no "real" bis list

[red schooner]

There are hundreds of item combinations that sim within margin of error, ignore the bis list for the love of all that is holy.

[plush wasp]

in raid single target with Fatebound, what is important to do in the opener? big difference to DS except the opener rotation? ty for answers

[red schooner]

Otherwise whispyr will strike you down

[raw marlin]

haha we are going brighton for the weekend this weekend

[coral ibex]

please do the math before you say the math proves there is a bis

[marsh fjord]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[hexed root]

I love the bis list whispyr provides. It's great.

[coral ibex]

he hates it

and would rather not make one

[red schooner]

Please, the man is finally sleeping, this will stir him from his slumber

[hexed root]

You're just saying there's 10 bis lists

[scenic vine]

I would suggest replacing 1 of the pieces with an off-piece for the sake of spreading your options. You can always catalyst to get the 5th slot but you might forfeit the extra piece if it drops and you already have 4 set

[novel star]

vanish to reflip edge case, that’s it

[coral ibex]

he's just forced because of bis list andys googling it

[hexed root]

I appreciate you.

[red schooner]

'Dear god, people are being idiots on the discord again' , let him sleep

[coral ibex]

ok bud

[scenic vine]

o7 see you on the Tuesday catchup lol

[marsh fjord]

he has all pieces because secondary stats on assa doesnt matter at all

[hexed root]

OK andy

[coral ibex]

bis list andy talking

[hexed root]

[iron lynx]

Hey guys can anyone link a sin rogue bis list I can follow

[hexed root]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[raw marlin]

@vestal wren did you do the image?

for sin like for sub?

[hexed root]

The loot on his sim

[scenic vine]

Someone asked where he saw 5 pieces of tier on bis, was just mentioning that it's what Wowhead says

[coral ibex]

https://youtu.be/HZXEXxFABJM?t=8393

please watch

for all the bis list andys

[hexed root]

Yea whispyr says all 5 tier pieces for bis

[marsh fjord]

yeah i know

[coral ibex]

who think there is a real bis

[raw marlin]

hey broski

hows it going?

[marsh fjord]

Hot. tired. excited. horny.

you?

[hexed root]

You said there's 10s of gear combos so there's multi bis lists then 🙂

[iron lynx]

Guys I only want to follow a list I’m a sim denier

[scenic vine]

I mean by definition there is, right? Just such a small difference between bis and 100's of other combos of gear that it's not worth hunting exact bis, especially when most people aren't goign to clear mythic raids

[iron lynx]

Sim deniers based

[coral ibex]

no

by definition there is not

[marsh fjord]

By defenition it is not. because the bis list would change with every different item you equip because our secondary's matter so little. so just do what the robot tells you to and your fine

[coral ibex]

there are tens if not hundreds of combinations that sim within margin of error at max ilvl

[raw marlin]

hot. bro its so fucking hot here lol

[coral ibex]

so no

[marsh fjord]

31 degrees atm here

[coral ibex]

there is no "real" bis

there can't be

[iron lynx]

The lists say otherwise

[fallow canopy]

Ngl nooj you are fighting a losing battle but I commend your commitment

[marsh fjord]

The list is just a general direction for you to take.

[scenic vine]

With our current tools your'e right I suppose that it would be near impossible to find out what is actually "bis"

especially with RNG taken into account

[dense cedar]

nooj getting ragebaited

[iron lynx]

List > sims

[fallow canopy]

Ye

[coral ibex]

just another tuesday

[scenic vine]

xD

[marsh fjord]

you know that ragebaiting is firting right

[fallow canopy]

Feelcrafting > theorycrafting

[raw marlin]

i am bis

[marsh fjord]

im gonna ask to ban the word sim

[fallow canopy]

Truuue

[dense cedar]

simming is cheating anyhow

[iron lynx]

I equip my gear based on vibes

[scenic vine]

What're you guys doing until servers come up except for goofin in disc

[marsh fjord]

i heard you equip two swords on assa

[hexed root]

Hundreds? Source? 🙂

[scenic vine]

fist weapons are bis tho

[iron lynx]

If the vibes are right

[hexed root]

Thatd be sick

[frozen glacier]

i dreamed about running m+ last night

i need help

[marsh fjord]

If whispyr would see this past conversation about bis list he woulda crashed out on the guy.

good thing he is sleeping

[iron lynx]

Can’t believe how many sim believers are in here

[scenic vine]

lmao

[hexed root]

He'd just insult the community as a whole again

[marble hemlock]

i only believe in bacon

[novel star]

deserved

wow players are all stupid annoying children

[marsh fjord]

well don't take this the wrong way but most of the community has a brain like a peanut and just do what people will tell them to do

[hexed root]

Sounds like the internet

[scenic vine]

thinking for yourself? What's that

[lean topaz]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[marsh fjord]

if people would just think for themself for a minut we could move mountains

[iron lynx]

Spoken like a true bis list denier

[main bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/oakdice-runescape-gif-18004007

[dense cedar]

!howtogearmychractericantread

[gray raven]

Any of the trinket tuning from the last day mean anything for this reset?

[iron lynx]

Can you tell that I am bored and trying to do anything but work

[main bridge]

Sims are just a conspiracy to keep you from getting true BiS

[marsh fjord]

i can tell 😄

[hexed root]

I just don't get trying to be a martyr and do so much for s community you "hate" but is what it is.

Can't wait to start farming the bis list today

[marsh fjord]

Because there still has to be sort of a direction and whispyr provides that for those people.

[iron lynx]

Based

[novel star]

helps a lot of silent people who just read the guide and trust the information

[dense talon]

quick probably dumb question: if I have a deathstalker buff (7 cp envenom) right when a pack is finished, do I use it immediately when I approach a new pack or continue with spreading improved garrotes, ruptures, ct and then use it?

[frozen glacier]

remember guys if its not on the bis list you dont equip it 👍

[nova aspen]

[iron lynx]

Throw that shit in the trash

[vestal wren]

I already did it yesterday, whisper did give a initial okay earlier but can at any time give input for changes (as can anyone). I was so free and added it ealier when I corrected a small mistake on the other 2

[dawn kelp]

2nd boss being dmg amp in execute surely is juice for assa

[hexed root]

This should be pinned

[warm vortex]

G O O D heavens
What mischievous event is currently unfolding in the hitman discussion group

[marsh fjord]

well you would be in stealth right. so you can start with a garrote/rapture because you already have DN up. and can use a 7+ envenom later on. also i wouldnt delay it to much. but you dont have to ambush that's true

[hexed root]

I'm just being petty.

[scenic vine]

From what I understand, bleeds take prio. As long as your Darkest Night buff doesn't wear off before you get the 7cp envenom off

[golden loom]

im ready for tomorrow

[normal mist]

THATS HOT

[marsh fjord]

isnt this ICC?

[golden loom]

its also wrong but coundlt find an actual correct list

[normal mist]

classic

[golden loom]

should be tier 3 belt + tier 2.5 chest + aq40 cloak

[golden loom]

classic naxx

[marsh fjord]

ohhhh

[sacred ibex]

Is there an optimal way to dot a pack when it starts? like when stop doting and things like that?

[marsh fjord]

Well. you gotta dot 5 targets for scent. everything above that is for damage.

[golden loom]

that bis list is probably as relevant for retail gearing as any actual bis list though

[iron lynx]

Classic sim believer

[dawn kelp]

i assume fatebound is only ahead of DS once u have 4pc?

[marsh fjord]

Nope

it's for me 7% ahead right now

[iron lynx]

Pure st it’s just better

[dense cedar]

its ahead already

[dawn kelp]

oh shit

type shit

[marsh fjord]

The power of fatebound doesnt lay in the 4p

it lies in the hero talents themself

who got buffed

[golden loom]

I just equip highest ilvl

[iron lynx]

There’s a list on wow head that has the only proper gear you should equip

[warm vortex]

Are the NA severs even up yet

Or are they still down somehow

[fallow canopy]

3 mores hrs

Give or take

[golden loom]

I cant read

[warm vortex]

Small idie companty

Unless this was their intended release time

[scenic vine]

hopefully we get blessed like last tuesday ahnd it comes out 3 hours early

smile

[marsh fjord]

• Go to wow discord
• sign up for server notifications 🙂

And you will be pinged

[sacred ibex]

So it's not necessary change targets for rupture?

[normal mist]

The best part of that list is that it was a community work process

[marsh fjord]

Well you can. it just provides more damage.

[warm vortex]

Tbh only reason im interested is for race
I'm just sitting here with nothing to do haha
As are most people

Or rather

not nothing to do

But just wanting the next season to start

[potent turret]

Don't worry, @raw marlin can't either.

[marsh fjord]

Yeah but if you wanna know those people ping you when the server goes up so you know when they are up bro

[astral current]

you can try to skip chest for hero/myth track item from m+

[warm vortex]

Yeye ik ik!

[iron lynx]

Lazy question inc.

With fatebound is there anything I really need to track or play around or does it kind of handle itself if I just do the slightly changed rotation

[dense cedar]

if you don't change targets when applying them you are only applying 2 at a time instead of 3

[sacred ibex]

Understood, tyy

[gray hazel]

So what fights do we go FB for?

[astral current]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kQzrwLEY0g

[marsh fjord]

on wowhead there is a raid guide which will tell you

[iron lynx]

Sheeeeeeeeeesh thank you goat

[astral current]

yw brother

[gray hazel]

I was blind, was not in the spot i thought it was.

thanks!

[oak trench]

correct statement?

[grand trail]

maybe

[dense cedar]

Wrong its the worst

[oak trench]

[coral ibex]

assa is prob the worst mdps in keys

[dense cedar]

#buffassasination

[coral ibex]

ok

correct statement?

[astral current]

assa is prob the worst in s3

[dense cedar]

Yes

[oak trench]

now idk anymore

[grand trail]

its pretty late for buff, even hunters stopped sandbag with their sims

[coral ibex]

its m+ bro who cares

[dense cedar]

rogues use 2h axes

[coral ibex]

that shit doesnt matter

[hexed root]

Lmfao

[oak trench]

uh excuse you

[velvet ridge]

Assa is worst mdps, sin is best

[hexed root]

And I thought my serious takes were wild

[sacred ibex]

But to clarify, when I apply rupture to the same target without changing the two extras, does it prioritize those without rupture?

[earnest remnant]

lightmode.... banned

[iron lynx]

Your name is bleed build Andy

[dense cedar]

Yes, so it will go 3 > 5

[hexed root]

10/10 point

[dense cedar]

People aren't ready for FB Bleed build

[coral ibex]

dude, congrats on successfully reading my name

[dense cedar]

r1 on dimension-man wiht it

[coral ibex]

[astral current]

on a scale 1 to 10 how stoopid am i for reuniting with my ex-wife that almost put me in jail out of her craziness

[hexed root]

Bleed build in raid? No wonder he doesn't care about proper bis lists.

[coral ibex]

haha yea

[iron lynx]

Classic sim believer

[normal mist]

not as bad as if you were to be an outlaw player

[hexed root]

20

[oak trench]

Light power ✊

[dense cedar]

can we ban this guy

[normal mist]

no

hes roleplaying a paladin

[oak trench]

[iron lynx]

Even more reason to ban

[astral current]

but she did wonderful mash potats today

like S-tier

[warm vortex]

I was confused on what website this was or something

But then i rememebred light mode XD

[astral current]

do blizz really gonna keep servers offline for 2 more hours

[sacred ibex]

So, after the two initial ruptures, is it just about maximizing rupture DPS on other targets? Because I used to do rupture-rupture-CT-rupture again sometimes

[dense cedar]

yeah

its the same amount of actions

[gritty laurel]

no, you don't maximize rupture dps

[dense cedar]

using the rup on a different target

its just a loss to rupture the same target

[gritty laurel]

you maintain enough ruptures to keep 5 scent stacks and infinite energy then you upkeep CT and slam envenoms. during IC you put garrote on everything you can

[tulip tiger]

Hey when in aoe I know you want to have rupture on up to 5 targets but do you also need to have garrote on 5 targets as well or just your main target? (I know we got that talent that makes garrote and rupture spread right out of stealth but im not talking about that)

[raw marlin]

garrote is 0

only on open

[dense cedar]

its still a gain to rupture more things with the bleed build if they are gonna hang around a while

you have plenty of time in IC to do more than 2 rupture casts

[gritty laurel]

oh yeah, during IC spread em. i realized after sending my message that it was a longer conversation

[sacred ibex]

So during IC is good do how much ruptures i can and after that just keep dots, cautic and envenom? following a normal rotation

[dense cedar]

basically

[tulip tiger]

Wait so you dont cast garrote at all outside of IC window?

[iron lynx]

We only apply garrote on open?

[raw marlin]

in aoe yeah

you can add it to 1 target if you want but its kind of useless

[dense cedar]

u can keep garrote on ur prio target

[marsh fjord]

its actually a DPS loss to spend garrote. outside of DM

in aoe

[kindred ingot]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
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Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[dense cedar]

ye

after the IC window

its just its shitty normal form

[marsh fjord]

so all you do is just open with it. and open with it if yhou have IC

[split python]

Do the S2 tier sets go grey start of patch?

[tulip tiger]

So basically for aoe you just keep rupture on 5 targets, pump combos into envenom and make sure you use caustic spaltter

[normal mist]

no

[primal jolt]

I've heard that the old tier is heavily nerfed tho, idk how worth it is having over raw stats

[dense cedar]

Rupture continues to have value to reapply above 5 targets with the bleed build

[marsh fjord]

yes and spread garrotes in your IC window. beside that you dont press that.

[raw marlin]

and CT

[dense cedar]

as long as the target isn't about to fall over

[raw marlin]

well if you need energy you can rupture snip for energy gain

[marsh fjord]

but yeah CT and ruptures are the most important one + caustic spatter to do big damp

[tulip tiger]

thanks for all the clarifcation guys I feel so dumb

I was trying to spread garrote to 5+targets all the time lol

[raw marlin]

how do you even do that with the cd?

[spare kayak]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
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Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[dense cedar]

sure but your energy should be pretty good at 5 rupture targets

[raw marlin]

yh im just saying thats the only other reason

i think you actually need 6 to stay infinitely sustained

[iron lynx]

When does hybrid build or other talents outside of bleed start to come into play, when the packs start living for a long time?

[raw marlin]

never

bleed is best all in content at all levels now

since buffs

[iron lynx]

Hm interesting

[dense cedar]

current not at all

[raw marlin]

there is a raid build with fatebound for pure ST fights

[iron lynx]

Do we just send a vanish mid pack then to keep reapplying bleeds

[raw marlin]

yh

[warm vortex]

[raw marlin]

A.

[dense cedar]

well u don't run bleed build for raid aoe

[iron lynx]

Cool thanks

[raw marlin]

pretty much do lol

[warm vortex]

I might still be a cheeky guy and play some hybrid

[dense cedar]

idk if i've seen that recommened by anyone

[raw marlin]

!builds

[prisma monolith]

Bleed vs Hybrid vs Cleave/FI builds
Broad rules and Section in Guide:

1. If you have to ask, you should play bleed
2. If you're not doing +20's or higher, you should play bleed
3. Even if you're doing higher, you should probably play bleed
4. No, Fatebound is not good, you play Deathstalker in every key.

Some general concepts as to why people play different things:

• 11.2/Season 3: Bleed has gotten stronger through some buffs and the single target damage you get from singular focus is ridiculously good with the tier set. During PTR testing many high end rogues were just playing bleed everywhere.
• Ease of play: Bleed build is simply the easiest to play due to subterfuge/no kingsbane/less need for giant prio targets
• Boss damage: The cleave build is mainly for boss damage (note: not prio, there is no significant difference in prio). Assa single target in keys is pretty bad, and some bosses during season 2 were not possible on high keys otherwise. It remains to be seen what push keys in Season 3 will bring in that regard.
• Specific Dungeons: Rookery as an example is very boss-heavy, especially the last boss, making bleed less ideal. Rookery is not in the rotation in Season 3, and there are a lot of AoE dungeons. Dawnbreaker might be a candidate, but unsure currently.
• Where the damage is: Bleed spreads out its damage and does great overall due to sudden demise and powerful 3-8 target damage. Hybrid is competitve but doesn't pull ahead outside of low target cleave and higher target AoE. Cleave is for single target damage and insanely large aoe because of how much caustic and crimson tempest carry aoe damage. At the end of the day, the builds are extremely similar, but Bleed is looking to simply be the best.

[dense cedar]

This is about keys tho

[warm vortex]

I was talking about keys aswell sadly

[dense cedar]

doesn't talk about raid aoe

[raw marlin]

https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/rogue/assassination/deathstalker/DANFVVFBRRUVRihFDVQQMVURQUGYVURoVBEEFVVUCEA

bro its basically the same

with Kingsbane

[tight ginkgo]

i feel seen

[warm vortex]

Fair

[dense cedar]

its missing alll of the garrote talents, SB and Sudden Demise

[thorn fjord]

So like

[raw marlin]

=but its still.. 'bleed'

[thorn fjord]

DS for heroic is fine?

[warm vortex]

Also the only diffrence is like

You use gar and rup as builders and spenders during carnage even if 5 are already bleeding
(obv if there are only five you go to normal)

[onyx pond]

Quick stupid question. Does assa spread his dots on each target or they get spread by themselves?

[warm vortex]

and CT in ST

[raw marlin]

from stealth they auto spread

[deep gyro]

@warm vortex u still playing ur hunter for this tier?

[dense cedar]

i wouldn't say getting rid of the stuff that specifically buffs bleed effects of envenom related ones

is still the bleed build

[warm vortex]

Both rogue and hunter

If i had to chose one it would be hunter

[raw marlin]

y

[deep gyro]

Glad to see your back

Until i saw ur next message

[warm vortex]

I enjoy it more

[deep gyro]

But

Stabbing

[raw marlin]

y

[deep gyro]

Is fun

[dense cedar]

survival hunter is fun

[deep gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/connor-mc-gregor-gtfo-gtfoh-get-the-fuck-out-of-here-gif-10203692

[dense cedar]

u just stab with a really long dagger

its bascially the same thing

[warm vortex]

Ranged, usually isn't as buggy, gets much more attention from blizzard, nothing to do with stealth, i get to use rats

Just a few off the top of my head

[deep gyro]

Hut

But

[raw marlin]

play mage then

[dense cedar]

casting spells is lame as hell

nerd shit

[raw marlin]

play non-caster mage then

[warm vortex]

When does mage use rats

[dense cedar]

unless the spells are dots related to sickness

[raw marlin]

ask piratesoftware

[dense cedar]

afflcition warlock gets a pass

[onyx pond]

While i am out of stealth ? Do they run out ?

[warm vortex]

I mean he worked at blizzard so he probably knows

[raw marlin]

yes?

[iron lynx]

Imagine just standing back and casting shit

[raw marlin]

does he, never mentioned it

[dense cedar]

real dps are hugging the boss

[deep gyro]

I’m humping the boss

[dense cedar]

fair enough

[heavy jolt]

!gear

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1404831391778078741/assa.webp

[dense cedar]

!beer

??

[warm vortex]

Tbh i just want my uni schedule already so i know if i can raid mythic or if it conflicts

!richard

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923750073499648/1356363029951938700/image.png?ex=67ec4b02&is=67eaf982&hm=0780c2bf8a3eda7b622f455daac5267c32f3074f79ab55d181e8de68faf2a64e&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[deep gyro]

Lol

[iron lynx]

How bout them sims

[dense cedar]

smis

[warped kiln]

any NA rogue stream incoming to watch while EU is waiting the release ? 🥲

[thorn fjord]

How does discord still not allow you to save messages

Get it together discord

[sacred ibex]

Do u use CT on pure ST bosses?

[dense cedar]

Bleed build yes

[rigid flicker]

S3 Sin Rogue theme song. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04F4xlWSFh0

[sacred ibex]

Thx so much

[iron lynx]

Bleed build st?????????

[dense cedar]

sometimes the pug tank will not pull things on

gotta live with that

[deep gyro]

Exactly so the only time u would press on st is being in the bleed build.

[thorn fjord]

Meaning not in raid for the slow people 😂

[warm vortex]

Hoping spatter makes a comeback

[iron lynx]

I’m the slow people, I was thinking raid

[warm vortex]

Or hybrid

rather

[dense cedar]

hybtid evil

prefer cleave over time

[deep gyro]

Unless u playing bleed build in raid but those are different problems

[thorn fjord]

Bleed is only m+

[iron lynx]

Yes, hence my question marks and confusion, I am just a little slow all good

[static glacier]

its done

[dense cedar]

Now do it again

[raw marlin]

there is a meta achivement that is hidden

its to do this 10 times lol

maybe wait for end of season

[nimble tartan]

!gear

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1404831391778078741/assa.webp

[dense cedar]

!bear

🐻

[raw marlin]

!sex

!goon

!gooner

[pliant remnant]

Sir?

[main bridge]

sir this is a Wendy's

[raw marlin]

damn it wrong discord

sorry

ill go to the sub channell

[spice spire]

????

[spice spire]

Didn’t realize @dapper cradle Had an alt

[stark musk]

Can I make good damage with that ping on sin?

[tranquil cobalt]

Strange question. Is it worth running eye of kezan over pacemaker tonight for first week

[stark musk]

Hey! It went two down!

[lost wolf]

oh nice you'll be good now

[stark musk]

Nah, it went back up

Shiet

[lost wolf]

damn..

[static glacier]

did the ? version in 2 tries after

first try the intermission had the clones not going to their spots and they went middle

it was wierd af

[wicked carbon]

How do we use 1m30 trinkets/Netherprism in m+ ?

[sharp viper]

is there a way to hide poison bomb animation (floor effect or all of it)?

[main bridge]

play sub

[stark halo]

I referred to your video on YT. Good explanations on speculation of when to use FB. Thanks!

[hexed root]

Need more bis lists

[main bridge]

somebody's not getting enough attention

[arctic tusk]

whats the rupture sniping bug?

!rupture

[prisma monolith]

Corrupt the Blood/Rupture Bug
Corrupt the blood can jump to mobs that are out of combat when the rupture-afflicted target changes from harmful to non-harmful
This is repeatable with mind control, but is most common on the third boss of Grim Batol when skipping the two elites before the boss.

You can avoid it by being EXTREMELY careful to not target anything when your target shifts, but otherwise not much to be done. Just be careful and aware as it is a niche bug that should not happen frequently

[arctic tusk]

i thought it was a positive thing

[spice surge]

Yes, it gives more energy than it should

When a target dies with rupture up

[deep gyro]

That is not right command

!snipe

Lol i forget which one it was.

[dense cedar]

!rupturebugthingverycoolstrong

[solar wyvern]

they fixed kb?

any knowers

[spice surge]

No knowers here im afraid

[deep gyro]

I feel like it would’ve been pinned at some point . I’m assuming is not fixed

[solar wyvern]

imon ptr

ill let u know in 2 seconds

its fixed

!!!@Q

[spice surge]

!

They posted a note that it would be fixed so ofc its fixed

Just like fazed interacting with nimble as sub, that just took a couple of months

[solar wyvern]

deliciouso

so its shiv dm kb envenom

[willow vine]

servers up gang

[next cape]

wheres whispyr

[desert heart]

On aoe bleed build, do we bleed everything? Like spamming garrotte and rupture till IC is over?

[solar wyvern]

vanish envebnomn

ye

[golden loom]

doesnt matter which envenom u vanish on as long as its one of the coldblooded once right

[solar wyvern]

second envenom is better cause its more tails stacks no?

[golden loom]

ah in that way I guess

but in purely a "get capstone" way

[coral ibex]

apparently someone in the druid discord got a mage tier set item in their vault

xd

[main bridge]

owned

[coral ibex]

im stuck here

[main bridge]

blizz said "reroll idiot"

[fallow canopy]

same

most of my guildies too

[frozen glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/sesame-street-cookie-monster-waiting-impatient-tap-gif-7054818315461363093

[harsh tartan]

change DNS. or use a vpn route it happens when the client/server handshake fails

[coral ibex]

handshake deez

[harsh tartan]

208.67.222.222

208.67.220.220
it might work

or 129.250.35.250

129.250.35.251

or 156.154.70.2

156.154.71.2

else vpn

[limpid sky]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[main bridge]

Maybe you meant to reply to someone else?

I dunno why you think those suggestions would fix anything regardless

[harsh tartan]

yep i meant to reply for stuck in loading

[thick juniper]

Good Luck pplz!!!

[harsh tartan]

it dose if you encounter the same loading problem

[deep gyro]

Good luck in vault and the season friends!!!

[main bridge]

I think you are repeating advice you saw somewhere and don’t understand what you are suggesting

[vestal wren]

unlucky

[viral axle]

hey for fatebound assa when do we use that extra shiv?

[harsh tartan]

haha lets say that this is a rogue discord not a IT class that i wont bother explaining, so
if you dont have the problem just ignore it if you do you can fix it as suggested gl

[deep gyro]

Extra shiv?

[viral axle]

so you shiv twice during deathmark

one shiv during kingsbane

and the other shiv?

[vestal wren]

I would not use a random dns. You typically only use a custom dns if your isp's one is shit and if you do so you typically use 1.1.1.1 or 8.8.8.8 (cloudflare or google's public dns)

[coral ibex]

haha

[deep gyro]

With new tier

[coral ibex]

ok

[deep gyro]

It is 2 with dm kb, 1 with kb and rinse and repeat

[main bridge]

Hey guys just use these random DNS I got here. Not malicious trust me bro

[vague dagger]

any tier set sheet out yet??

[thick juniper]

racism

[deep gyro]

Without tier set u just send 2 on kb

[viral axle]

ah okay just read what the tier does for fatebound

[dense cedar]

wdym

[viral axle]

ty for the help!

[deep gyro]

Reduces it to a 1.5 min cd

[vague dagger]

tier set gain for every class, usually released every season

[frozen bay]

whaty you guys recomend to craft whit the spark?

[worldly nebula]

you mean ulrias sheet?

[harsh tartan]

they were UltraDNS, NTT and OpenDNS for gaming routes, you can search them before talking m8 dont continue this poinless discussion when you clearly dont have any knowledge on the matter

[proven willow]

[main bridge]

Yeah and you are suggesting changing DNS and VPN for a loading screen lmao

[real pike]

any recommendations on best delve to spam?

[worldly nebula]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1exJeu5eVe4bTmyg3WFx5PTxIWvDLi0j-WW-XWpGoG88/edit?gid=705110442#gid=705110442
will be updated soon

[gritty laurel]

always fungal folly

[formal pewter]

the new delve in the new area is easy

[main bridge]

https://wago.io/DAGg3PbVo

[humble verge]

man

[hardy pawn]

how big of a dps loss is it in bleed build to only spread ruptures + garrotes off MT? rupture value massively falls off after 5 right so is it acc a huge dps loss

[humble verge]

i love how its gonna be 25 degrees outside

and im gonna be inside

grinding keys for 18 hours

[hardy pawn]

because pre-cds we only send like 3 gcds into spreading rupture anyways right? so 3+2+2 vs 3+3+3

[humble verge]

[humble verge]

you can do fungal folly in 5 minutes with a full team afaik, if u struggle

prolly sidestreet faster

[gritty laurel]

i was lazily pumping out 8s in 7-8 minutes this weekend

[main bridge]

I’m a sidestreet enjoyer myself

[dense cedar]

rupture doesn't fall off, the 5 is because of scent

[humble verge]

wednesday fungal folly

[proven willow]

fungal folly with that portal is like 2 minute runs

[humble verge]

was giga easy

me and guildie did like

[hardy pawn]

but is it a giga loss?

[humble verge]

3 minute runs lol

[proven willow]

kinda crazy thats even an event

[gritty laurel]

!ic

!carnage

[prisma monolith]

Indiscriminate Carnage Targetting and Swapping
TLDRMouseovers/Target swapping is optimal on 6 target, or 8+ targets, but not necessarily required

• The 2 Bleeds spread by carnage are smart and will prioritize mobs without the bleed. If everything already has bleeds it'll apply randomly
• You as the character are still casting the bleed against your target like normal, this is why people will sometimes use mouseover macros or swap targets

Swapping targets is situationally better, but can be ignored if you're having difficulties with it. Take 5 mob aoe as an example, your first garrote cast will apply to 3 targets (your target + 2 more). Regardless of if you swap or not, your second cast of garrote will hit your target, and then apply 2 more garrotes, prioritizing the mobs that do not have garrote. In very large aoe pulls (12 or more), a standard opener (garrote-garrote-rupture-rupture-garrote-garrote) will only apply 9 garrotes (3+2+2+2) and 5 ruptures (3+2) if you do not swap, losing you 3 garrotes and a rupture.

It is technically worse, but the situations in which you lose bleeds aren't very common; the lost ruptures/garrotes don't contribute much to your already flooded energy, you don't get additional scent of blood stacks, etc. The loss is purely the extra damage from those bleeds.

[proven willow]

you can just zone in and out to check if the portal is there

[humble verge]

sent this to my former guild of scrubs

[proven willow]

hey i just typed that

[tepid grove]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[tepid grove]

!macro

[prisma monolith]

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[harsh tartan]

yes bliz tend to borrow servers from amazon on patch days to avoid server stress's this means that you can connect to many servers in one loading session and alot of dns routs depending on the connection can fail the only way to fix this is to try different global dns's to change the route or use a vpn to force the route to fix the failed loading, that failed loading is not coz of anything else than failed handshake to multiple connections at once dont push it m8 you are strangely weird already.

[marble hemlock]

idk how you manage to provide good info and be super weird with the "dont push it m8" in the same message, but how about we stick to useful information without engaging in fighty behavior? goes for everyone, ofc

[dense cedar]

honour among thieves

[marble hemlock]

thats smth youd say to somebody when he brushes your shoulder in a bar, saying that on a discord is a bit weird

[proven willow]

if that were true it wouldnt be timed based on when people could get in game

some would get in and some wouldnt

L

[iron lynx]

It’s just classic IT ego things, see it all the time

[marble hemlock]

which is the case

half of melee mechanics is already in mythic waiting in front of the first boss

[proven willow]

its not the case u can go on stream now and listen to the guy who has group finder open

[woven slate]

On soul hunters we use the council build. Since we dont take indiscriminate carnage (why?) do we rupture them all during the opener?

[proven willow]

0 people are applying when hundreds normally apply the people who got in all got in at the same time

[marble hemlock]

https://i.imgur.com/5wOdjbK.jpeg

guess this isnt real then

[proven willow]

try reading then let me know when ur ready

[marble hemlock]

[harsh tartan]

i dont have any idea why the dude pick a fight when i was just trying to help ppl who said they are stuck in the loading, i guess that we never know which 12 year old is always trying to get involved =))

[fallow canopy]

one day you can't log in and people get feisty

[marble hemlock]

see, you just did it again. what is it with the ego-posting right now?

[bright charm]

playing WoW is the only thing containing us

[marble hemlock]

you couldve just stopped before you had to resort to a veiled insult

[inner cave]

fucking wow dont let me loging wtf i do

[iron lynx]

To be fair to @harsh tartan. this comment would be annoying when you actually understand the networking side of things and were just trying to help

[proven willow]

it would only be annoying if you knew what u were talking about

[marble hemlock]

unfortunately we are not on a server where you can presume everyone has that level of knowledge, so suggesting a (seemingly) random set of DNS is not bad advice either

[vague dagger]

sweet ty

[warm vortex]

I thought arguments like this were only in hunter discord

or rather

[marble hemlock]

theres bad actors all the time, so a "be careful" base attitude is to be expected. neither side needs to lose their marbles over it

[warm vortex]

Scoundrel like behavoir

[sharp viper]

[slim hamlet]

Is there any reason to not craft weapon already btw? Can't remember if there was any downside

[sharp viper]

I'm in

[marble hemlock]

i thought pinkies are contained in the transmog channel?

did someone leave the door open again?

[harsh tartan]

yep i was screenshooting the dudes masages for selita i guess he skipped those

[sharp viper]

YOU CAN'T CONTAIN ME

[summer oar]

Is our Mythic+ single target boss damage bad?

[sharp viper]

[cloud basin]

so dont open vault atm i guess lol

[marble hemlock]

BECAUSE THERES NO CAGE BIG ENOUGH FOR YOU

[keen spruce]

don't call Vaeira fat

[sharp viper]

[marble hemlock]

i didnt

weird of you to assume that tho

[real pike]

so this was incredibly false lmao

[keen spruce]

[sharp viper]

[dense cedar]

skill issue

[real pike]

yea skill issue I've been sitting at this fishing bullshit for 10 mins

[bright charm]

how

10 minutes

[marble hemlock]

but yes, general guideline to having conversations: theyre not competitions. were all just trying to vibe and have fun.

[dense cedar]

its like 5 seconds per catch

[coral ibex]

yesterday's fungal folly was insanely quick

got my 8 tier 8's done in like an hr

[real pike]

I'm just not catching anything

[main bridge]

Next you’re gonna tell us to open naked_paladins.zip and tell us they’re just trying to help

[real pike]

so

good game

[bright charm]

i mean as possible as it is that this multi dollar company messed up fishing

i'll believe it when i see it

[sharp viper]

onebuttonrotation.numb_encore.mp3.exe

[proven willow]

are you fishing without bait

[golden loom]

are u clicking the stuff when u catch

[marble hemlock]

no

[golden loom]

like u just click to fish then u have to click 10-20 seconds later again

do that 3 times

boom

[harsh tartan]

you reading right? or you skipped again? =))? see the 12 year old or i have the ego? haha

[marble hemlock]

onebuttonrotation.NuMb_eNcoRe.mp3.exe

[iron lynx]

Suggesting using a vpn seems like it’s a little different than that though

[harsh tartan]

.

[sharp viper]

[real pike]

ye wasn't catching anything but I jumped off the platform and back up and it worked now

[marble hemlock]

okay im gonna be a bit clearer now, so read this: just fucking stop. its done. move on.

[real pike]

maybe cause I learnt fishing right thhere

[iron lynx]

All good though the warriors are out, let’s get to the real arguments, are you guys sim enjoyers or bis list enjoyers

[golden loom]

well u dont have to learn fishing (i still havent done that there )

[main bridge]

Just change your DNS to these IPs bro trust me I’m the smartest guy at my tier 0 help desk job

[proven willow]

xd if u have a friend online they can invite you to a group while youre in a loading screen

[real pike]

oh

[marble hemlock]

...

[real pike]

lmao

[proven willow]

no wonder its crashing out

[keen spruce]

bis lists are just sims without context

[dense cedar]

how have u never unlocked it

its like 30 copper

[harsh tartan]

@marble hemlock ? do you understand now or should i be clear as well?

[real pike]

I'm unlearning it immediately

[bright charm]

too rich for my blood

[warm vortex]

Holy shittttt

Something is beign cooked downstairs and it smells peak

I hunger

[sharp viper]

@keen sprucei have a few breaks in between kyveza farming me

if you want to dance

[golden loom]

saying this and then 180ing to talk about bis lists is crazy ngl, good bit

[keen spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/valtteri-cat-valtteri-cat-cat-valtteri-booty-gif-18965648

[iron lynx]

Was he providing ips? lol I missed context clearly, but i do believe im a little more qualified than just a guy who does help desk

[dense cedar]

go steal it, rogue class fantasy

[proven willow]

yes

[keen spruce]

where we dancing

[sharp viper]

Same as always, always pedroing

[keen spruce]

oh ofc ofc

[iron lynx]

There’s 1 way I can get through my workday and it’s not working, it’s stirring up some conversations in the rogue discord

[warm vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/rat-gif-23842662

[golden loom]

based I do that too

[sharp viper]

https://tenor.com/view/spill-issue-oh-no-my-milj-orange-cat-orange-cat-milk-milk-cat-gif-11913986030845101804

[marble hemlock]

both just got a 30min mute, any other takers who cannot read and wanna continue this pointless discussion?

[dense cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/mnogonozhka-shadw-shadow-gif-20459923

[alpine pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-worm-cat-worm-catworm-ai-generated-gif-11758626355945811640

[hoary remnant]

according to exile fatebound assa is fixed

300k buff

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[iron lynx]

Do you feel big and strong when you do that

[keen spruce]

I missed the whole discussion but everyone stop making Seli mad

[iron lynx]

Just a question don’t shoot me

[keen spruce]

[proven willow]

they couldnt have fixed the kingsbane buff because whispyr didnt pin it

[keen spruce]

That's my job

[marble hemlock]

no, i feel sad and frustrated, because it shouldnt have to come this far

[coral ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/soheb-saucelessss-gif-23665203

how you felt posting that

[proven willow]

it feels good to mute people cmon

when its deserved*

[marble hemlock]

well, not to me.

[normal mist]

Actually doesnt,

[marble hemlock]

id rather people just vibe

[iron lynx]

How I feel talking sims v bis lists w you

[proven willow]

yeah but when you are fixing a vibe

it feels good

[dense cedar]

tbh should just mute the entire server but me imo

[marble hemlock]

not really, i wish the vibe wasnt off in the first place

[sharp viper]

[rotund oak]

Ezclap

[marble hemlock]

think itd be easier to ban you and you make your own RH with blackjack and hookers

[proven willow]

mute this guy

getting into the game

[iron lynx]

It was a IT convo in a wow discord, it was bound to end up like that

[sharp viper]

on second thought... forget RH

[rotund oak]

❤️

[keen spruce]

I wish I could mute people having IT conversations in real life too

[dense cedar]

[sharp viper]

ANC headphones?

[proven willow]

what about muting people irl in general

[dense cedar]

nice hacking, enjoy your perma ban, kiddo

[proven willow]

i bet in 20 years it will be possible

[keen spruce]

that's deafening myself

not muting them

[rotund oak]

[keen spruce]

🙂‍↕️

[sharp viper]

does it matter as long as you odnt have to listen?

[iron lynx]

How bout them blizzard servers and networking and all that

[dense cedar]

[rotund oak]

u dont even know whats hacking but sure puppy

[keen spruce]

but maybe I need to hear other things

[dense cedar]

Ion gonna personally chase you down for these crimes

[sharp viper]

[coral ibex]

someone in my guild claims they just got a heroic 704 kezan in their vault

[sharp viper]

[coral ibex]

[proven willow]

LETS GO

[lean topaz]

https://wowutils.com/loot/playground/vault PRACTICE YOUR PULLS

[sharp viper]

gz

[dense cedar]

happy for you

[distant nebula]

is it worth running 2p2p?

[proven willow]

this discord made it happen

[prisma carbon]

ezpz

[coral ibex]

[dense cedar]

You can sim it

[iron lynx]

Pause

Can delves vault drop set or am I misunderstanding what I’m seeing

[dense cedar]

they can ye

[lean topaz]

theyc an

[iron lynx]

!!!

[dense cedar]

hope udid ur tier 8s

[iron lynx]

I did

[rare owl]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[iron lynx]

And now I’m just waiting for my meeting to end all giddy

[coral ibex]

this is why you do 8 fungal follies on a monday night brother

let us GO

[iron lynx]

Wow what great news, pray to vault gods

[inner swift]

fuck you

[river karma]

Tier helm looks like it was inspired by the Virindi from Asheron's Call.

[iron lynx]

Tier pieces are on the bis list on wow head so I know they are good!!

[young sonnet]

is it worth dropping old tier rn or do I just hold off on using new tier pieces for now?

[gritty laurel]

hero tier chest on first vault, season is blessed boys

[keen spruce]

pretty sure hero track 2+2 is big upgrade

[frozen bay]

!MACRO

[prisma monolith]

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[normal mist]

change when 2+2

[young sonnet]

ok ty

[jolly lion]

I have like 658 ilv set should i go for upgrades straight or still change at 2+2?

[normal mist]

www.raidbots.com

[jolly lion]

yeah

[wheat eagle]

should i get veteran tier or a dagger

i only do m+

[normal mist]

first of all, shame on you for not farming +8 delves

[keen spruce]

why the heck would you take anything veteran tier

if you're capable enough to get hero track vaults

[weary spear]

That dagger gets replaced on your second dungeon

[keen spruce]

or myth track

[young pebble]

Get SAD so you can socket a mythic piece later 🙂

[weary spear]

and craft

[clear oar]

gang which one

[normal mist]

i'd go gloves just to get tier faster

[lean topaz]

gloves

[coral ibex]

tier

for sure

[keen spruce]

oh is that daggie not hero track

nvm then

[thick juniper]

m0 is champion correct?

[normal mist]

yes

[hexed root]

qq

one of these are on the bis list

[normal mist]

xD

[quiet oriole]

They fixed the vault shit?

[keen spruce]

None of those are on the bis list

[normal mist]

what vault shit

[keen spruce]

cuz they're not myth track

[wheat eagle]

so get the vet tier?

[weary stump]

That's a nice looking chisel

[keen spruce]

probably ye

[normal mist]

from the option yes

[wheat eagle]

alr

[quiet oriole]

I heard the vault was bugged and not dropping the right ilvl gear

[tranquil lynx]

Is that only america realm or eu aswell?

[keen spruce]

it's fixed

[normal mist]

america

[keen spruce]

assuming it was ever broken in the first place

and not just comment frogs stirring up a ruckus

[haughty flicker]

vault was fine for me yeah

[neat rain]

Is there a good eco-dome skip?

[tranquil lynx]

Eta for eu vault?

[quiet oriole]

Eu or na?

[normal mist]

NA

eu is tomorrow

[quiet oriole]

Dope ty

[haughty flicker]

why would eus vault on a tuesday have been what i meant

[keen spruce]

did they fix the EU vaults that don't exist yet?

[tranquil lynx]

Tomorrow depends on the region so eta approx?

[keen spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/champoy-el-risitas-kek-issou-etu-gif-17837830

[normal mist]

I mean its there when i wake up at 7 am

so in....

12 hours?

less maybe

[keen spruce]

Wednesday 4:00 UTC

[tranquil lynx]

Alright thanks

[keen spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-among-us-astronaut-space-betrayal-gif-23836476

[frigid lagoon]

is this going to be a tier where we play sin and sub? what is it looking like for mythic prog

[tranquil lynx]

9 hours from now

[keen spruce]

likely both or either or neither

[frigid lagoon]

ive followed none of the ptr stuff so idk whats good

[tranquil lynx]

Is taz dung available?

[keen spruce]

same

I'm just recycling things I see green names type

[normal mist]

on reset yes

should be

[rotund oak]

wpn and if u ask why ill jump out of your screen and slap u

[cursive finch]

bubbling wax good?

or/

[normal mist]

no

[rotund oak]

no

[normal mist]

just a cheap option

[cursive finch]

wowhead has it listed

ah

[gritty laurel]

time for me to ask a dummy question because i can't find it on google: are they still doing the timewalking quests where you get a hero raid item for doing the TW raid?

[keen spruce]

probably at some point

it's been a thing for a long time

but it's not every week

sometimes it's normal

sometimes it's a pvp quest

[gritty laurel]

i don't mean the weekly quest,

[keen spruce]

[gritty laurel]

the timewalking weekly is always normal raid, but back in season 1 during at least TBC timewalking there was an extra quest that gave a random hero raid item

[keen spruce]

yeah that's the rotating weekly quest thing

sometimes pvp

[normal mist]

thats only for tbc/wotlk iirc

[keen spruce]

sometimes WQ

[rotund oak]

u need to check what the reward is

[keen spruce]

soemtimes TW

[normal mist]

He means the TW RAID quest

for killing the last boss

[keen spruce]

oh

same original answer ig

probably

[normal mist]

that awards hero yes

[keen spruce]

when it comes around

[normal mist]

but only for TW weeks where there is actually a raid

like tbc - BT

[rotund oak]

sometimes mustard sometimes cheese,but always mayo+ketchup

[normal mist]

and WOTLK - Ulduar

[gritty laurel]

dope, it's Wrath week so that's nice

[keen spruce]

not the mayo

[gritty laurel]

thanks Royal

[keen spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/ahoklollmao-noooo-nooo-noo-no-gif-17139315586294057944

[rotund oak]

sacrilege

[keen spruce]

Where is our mayo on grilled cheese enjoyer

I don't even remember their original username cuz they changed it to grilled cheese with mayo so quickly

[rotund oak]

bro's stacked on cholisterol or something

[main bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/i-have-returned-from-my-discord-mute-im-back-from-my-mute-mute-discord-caption-gif-13040361932464407767

[waxen oyster]

and cata

[buoyant yew]

can't decide between champion sacbrood or hero tier chest. :hmm

[quaint nimbus]

sheeit i got two tier pieces out of mine

[strange niche]

is caustic splatter not working after reset

[weary stump]

A good Mayo is great for grilled cheese, makes it very creamy

[gritty laurel]

hero tier is easy choice, you can farm hero trinkets in M+

[keen spruce]

i tried it

it was weird

cheese is already fat

[buoyant yew]

this is what i was thinking yeah. Just knowing my luck i'll never see it drop lmao

[keen spruce]

doesn't need more fat

[storm nymph]

can anyone link the suggested talents for the new raid? like per boss

[weary stump]

Did you use it instead of butter

[gritty laurel]

do you have deadly poison active?

[weary stump]

Or did you weirdly do both

[keen spruce]

no no no he puts mayo IN the sandwich

[weary stump]

Yeah

Mayo is the alternative to butter

[keen spruce]

[iron sinew]

Gross

[keen spruce]

butter doesn't go in the sandwich

butter goes on the outside

[weary stump]

Yes

[keen spruce]

for browning