assassination

[heady oak]

I was hoping you'd just say the single target ones

[midnight mist]

@balmy condor 😊

[winged sun]

oh btw there was a CN outlaw that wanted to join the top rogues chat

thought i'd ask u

[golden loom]

does the I stand for something else or did they make india cannon in the world of warcraft universe?

[fierce sigil]

Oh wait thats in the guide… im Sorry

[winged sun]

shes r1 outlaw in CN

idk if u want her in

lmk if u do

[midnight mist]

idk her cause she doesnt stream on twitch cuh

[winged sun]

shes new to wow

so idk

[midnight mist]

china people have their own twitch

[balmy condor]

I can only imagine india has been cannonized

[past marten]

Is there also a bottom rogue chat? Asking for a friend

[midnight mist]

bilibili or the other one i forgot

[elfin fossil]

Where are vault screens with dooming?

[balmy condor]

there's no other explaination

[winged sun]

[shrewd night]

Members: 1. Its you.

[past marten]

Kinda lonely

[night vessel]

where are those weapons from?

[winged sun]

new raid weapon mog vendor

in 2nd floor

[heady oak]

So, like most of us who haven't played fatebound before this patch you're telling me I can just get lucky off rip and 30s into the fight get a 7% agi buff for the rest of the encounter?

[winged sun]

wait

not new raid

what am i saying

liberation of undermine raid

[past marten]

You sure you don't wanna join Koffing?

[shrewd night]

wdym I dont even play rogue

[night vessel]

its not that much about luck th

[past marten]

That technically makes you a bottom rogue

[golden loom]

almost banned for bug abuse

[haughty flicker]

checkmate aethiestasd

[past marten]

Maybe it's a hybrid

Honey induced ipa

[shrewd night]

Youll find more bottom rogues in outlawchat

[nova kelp]

whispyr

fuck

the fact that the boss is a brew master

has actually fucked me up

[haughty flicker]

why though

[dense cedar]

should've called the boss Beedrinkerman

solved all issues

[midnight mist]

ok man

[past marten]

Shoulda called it M'ead

[heady oak]

They can call that boss whatever they like I'm calling it boring and poorly designed

[midnight mist]

Koffing you a cat player or?

[balmy condor]

nice photoshop

[shrewd night]

Yuh

[midnight mist]

Do you play m+

Or just raid

[shrewd night]

Both

[haughty flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/sunakook-cat-screaming-gif-25279230

[midnight mist]

Do you push keys or just weeklies

[past marten]

How much did you pay for the buffs?

[shrewd night]

If I find group, I push, else its just weeklies united

[vague dagger]

anyone know if tier set sheet is out?

[midnight mist]

I see

[shrewd night]

[nova kelp]

the brew master throws brew at you that leaves honey

[past marten]

400 yes left

[haughty flicker]

mead is brewed

yes

[nova kelp]

see but that makes sense if it's a cindermead brewery

but it's not though

[balmy condor]

mead is brewed
cindermead is brewed
cindermead brewery

xd?

[shrewd night]

I cant believe this is the topic that breaks rogue brains

[cunning needle]

just because its a mead

[sonic zinc]

thought it was in pins but couldnt see it, do we swap off old tier for 2p or was that specifically for fatebound

[cunning needle]

doesn't mean it cant be called ipa

[haughty flicker]

a meadery is a brewery

[cunning needle]

names are just names

[balmy condor]

instantly when you get a new 2pc yes

[sonic zinc]

bet

[dense cedar]

Calling a boss I'pa was a funny choice

[cunning needle]

what if it's a mead but always wished to be an ale

so it called itself ipa

[midnight mist]

I'm so out of the loop with assa lore

What's up with this mewdeary thing

[dense cedar]

whispyr just a bit silly about the dungeon name

[scarlet orbit]

Do we already shiv before dm as fatebound with old tier? Or when we get new tier for more flips?

[dense cedar]

he's going nuts

[dense cedar]

you do it now, the point of the shiv is to buff the edge case flip damage

which happens when you press DM

so the shiv has to go first

This gear section is so funny @balmy condor ty for this

[midnight mist]

Np

[haughty flicker]

np

[dense cedar]

zac replied to my ping

same person confirmed

[haughty flicker]

as far as i know you're zac

ive never seen you both in the same room

[shrewd night]

Sounds like something a zacimposter would say

[dense cedar]

True

Bel is 3 letters

zac is 3 letters

the evidence is there

[hidden inlet]

when will our m+ st be not dogshit

[balmy condor]

sacrebleu there is no way I am ze zac

[hidden inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-crying-meme-doggo-crys-megan-soo-crying-dog-gif-5276199764143986284

[nova kelp]

when are they going to turn the warrior interupt into "headbutt"?

[normal mist]

When you spec into ST

[dense cedar]

probably not gonna change while our prio funnel is psycho high

[balmy condor]

when you pull mobs on top of the boss and abuse singular focus being 30% of your single target

[golden loom]

cant wait to funnel the hardmode tazevesh dragon with target dummies

[warm vortex]

Actually curious

What is the reason our st is so dogshit compared to our raid ST

Is it just cause of how many talents are completely dead in ST on the M+ build

[dense cedar]

in wow canon, where is our kick placed when we interrupt?

straight to the gut?

[warm vortex]

Balls

[balmy condor]

right in the meadery

[cunning needle]

when they do the gw2 x wow crossover

[nova kelp]

square in the IPA

[cunning needle]

animation says we kick them in the shins

[lilac oyster]

is it worth replacing 4 set with higher ilvl? or hold until new tier?

[balmy condor]

You sim

[warm vortex]

Genuinely, nothing interrupts a guy better than a well placed kick directly into the testicles

[balmy condor]

(It’s gonna be until tier like always)

[lilac oyster]

easy ❤️

[warm vortex]

Tried it with someone when I was losing an argument with them

Worked out v well

I won that argument

[cunning needle]

[dense cedar]

notice zac isn't here

now that whispyr is posting

curious

[jade abyss]

Haha

[nova kelp]

I mean, if you've ever seen professional wrestling
everyone knows a kick right to the jewels is like 90000% more effective than dumping a man on his head

[warm vortex]

It’s sudden death mode

[nova kelp]

literal instant win clause

right up there with if you hit someone with a belt

[jade abyss]

[balmy condor]

I volunteer

…for the hitting someone obviously

[nova kelp]

note, I said hit not whip

[balmy condor]

Zac do you think NA servers randomly come up 3.5 hours early again this week

[cunning needle]

okay dad settle down

[balmy condor]

Idk what to set my alarm to

[nova kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/john-cena-wwe-memes-meme-metal-chair-gif-16632462656416693392

[midnight mist]

I think they come up late as always

I'm glad I'm eu

I just wake up at 6 am and play

What a banger

[haughty flicker]

[peak lake]

Netherprism > araz now ?

[maiden sierra]

Ping me when they come live so i can watch the beta testers play

[balmy condor]

For Fatebound yes

[peak lake]

ye soz was asking for death

[balmy condor]

I will not but you’re welcome to watch anyway

[nova kelp]

I'm going netherprism anyway

[balmy condor]

Then no

Maybe

Depends

[warm vortex]

"ALL of you... Feed on the void-"

[maiden sierra]

[heady oak]

I my primary concern is M+ and I want my guildies to like me pass on nether then?

[warm vortex]

Your assa

youll blast m+ aoe either way

[balmy condor]

Your guildies want you in m+ because you’re assa

[haughty flicker]

[balmy condor]

Bro sometimes y’all are so wild that I think my girl DM’d me

[peak lake]

i guess maybe for the last bosses with amp u prefer netherprism for a big use (66k agi every 3mn) when araz is "only" 41k

[warm vortex]

Whispyr tf you mean WE are wild

[peak lake]

(if u have the luck of getting prism of fract down)

[balmy condor]

You’re blaming me for being thought provoking?

[spice surge]

Araz isnt 41k really, its ticking down by 3% every second

[peak lake]

even prism hm is 59k agi

[midnight mist]

mom boddy

[spice surge]

So on average across deathmark its more like 32k or so

[nova kelp]

mom body?

pixar mom body?

roxanne perez build?

[peak lake]

ye + that

[midnight mist]

do not ask me to elaborate

[balmy condor]

Valid

[warm vortex]

How can i think when it has grammatical errors

[midnight mist]

but a decision had to be made

[balmy condor]

I agree

[midnight mist]

i made it

[nova kelp]

WAIT

WAIT

[fresh kelp]

elaborate

[nova kelp]

when the fuck did ven come back?

[haughty flicker]

best i can do is roseanne barr

[midnight mist]

sure

[balmy condor]

Masterbate

[spice surge]

Prism is just strictly stronger per use (assuming you didnt lose all of your stacks), but its not up on pull, which is real bad

[haughty flicker]

prism sims higher for me than forge

[peak lake]

not rly, most of p1 doesnt matter. It's just bad for ur overall

[fresh kelp]

W rizz

[haughty flicker]

whispyr pls fix

[peak lake]

not for the dmg that matter

[balmy condor]

No

[haughty flicker]

wtf

[warm vortex]

Yknow what

[rotund oak]

sweating it is an understatement

[warm vortex]

Might do raid prog on rogue and hunter

Might go back to smashing envenom in m+ and smashing envenom in raid

[fading elbow]

Should we be going deathstalker if we dont have 11.2 tier (and no previous tier either) or is fatebound still better?

[balmy condor]

Oh mb sorry forgot I was supposed to make a pin for awareness of kb bug so blizzard fixes

[haughty flicker]

nice ty

[balmy condor]

You have raidbots for this, and fatebound is better

[night vessel]

so guys, first time full commiting to assa. on forgeweaver, when we have to target the pillars in the intermission. its best to just hold cds right?

[spice surge]

And an @ everyone ping to raise the awareness even more

[warm vortex]

Mythic prog (if i do it) is prolly just hunter

[nova kelp]

ew

[haughty flicker]

i tried to tell him this

[nova kelp]

have fun with your bm no multishot build

[haughty flicker]

it worked for dk why not us

[nova kelp]

fucking SNORE

[haughty flicker]

[balmy condor]

You don’t want to cooldown the pillars because there’s a damage amp on the boss immediately after

[warm vortex]

Replace the s with a w

The nwe can talk

[nova kelp]

wnore?

[night vessel]

i its just about cleaving the adds with spatter and chill until dmg amp?

[spice surge]

Presumably pillars are going to be a bit of a dps check, but its probably gonna be ranged using their cds as they can cleave multiple pillars

[warm vortex]

You heard me

[spice surge]

And then melee cds on boss

[worthy rose]

!plater

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[haughty flicker]

so im gonna have to do pillars because ranged suck

[balmy condor]

There’s nothing else to hit

[neat plank]

!sheet

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[balmy condor]

You’re hitting pillars regardless

[neat plank]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1403486905915408524/Dark_Mode.jpg

[nova kelp]

40/100 flickergates

[azure roost]

do u guys know where to get like some decent trinkets from world content?

[nova kelp]

12 quartz

[azure roost]

cause i have df trinkets on my roge

still

and theres no AH ones..

[worthy rose]

@balmy condor it appears your plater link is broken

[balmy condor]

Nightfall

[worthy rose]

im unable to import it for whatever reason

[haughty flicker]

go do nightfall

[azure roost]

ight thx :)

[worthy rose]

strangely not working

[haughty flicker]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[balmy condor]

1. Is your plater updated
2. Are you pasting it into the import profile section and not doing some weird thing like importing it as a weakaura or importing it as a plater mod

[worthy rose]

i click copy import string

and i just put it into the import section

like i do any other wa

[haughty flicker]

works for me

[worthy rose]

for some reason this isnt working

[balmy condor]

It’s not a wa

[worthy rose]

says error decompressing

[balmy condor]

Yes

[haughty flicker]

plater

not weak aura

[worthy rose]

OH

FUCK

im a dumbass

[haughty flicker]

[balmy condor]

[balmy condor]

How does he know

He’s so powerful

[worthy rose]

ive exposed myself

im a fool

[balmy condor]

Bro you have no idea how many people cannot import a plater

I was considering adding big arrows in editing to the section in my giga video

Not for any of the other stuff

[stark halo]

Anyone have that spreadsheet that said when we are presumably playing fatebound in raid

[balmy condor]

Specifically for where to import plater

That many people mess it up

[balmy condor]

Like which bosses?

[red schooner]

Screw the spreadsheet, I'm waiting on access to whispyr's powerpoint slides.

[stark halo]

Exactly

[balmy condor]

That is a webpage called wowhead.com

And it might change very rapidly based on dimensius and stuff

Also first week you might see a ton of people play deathstalker anyway just to avoid the rng of Fatebound before tier

So really it’s just kind of guessing

[nova kelp]

I can import a plater, I can adjust them even
can't work out the meadery though

[balmy condor]

The brewery

[nova kelp]

FUCK

why does the IPA boss spew mead?

[balmy condor]

Cause it’s the mead from the cinders

The cindermead

[haughty flicker]

because its only the best for my bees

[nova kelp]

but it's

fuck this, I'm switching to warlock so I can play 1 button rotation and only lose 10% dps

[haughty flicker]

aug only loses 8%

ez

[nova kelp]

it's also aug

[haughty flicker]

its one button rotation who the fuck cares what you're playing

[lean plover]

Whispyr have you learnt how the dungeon is called?

[haughty flicker]

its all the same

[balmy condor]

Losing 10% of however many tens of millions they’re Simming still puts them well ahead of everyone

[nova kelp]

we're getting our own aug spec

when they delete sub and replace it with bard

[burnt star]

Play 1 button. Do more damage then rogue on a sim

[balmy condor]

No we’re still arguing about it if you scroll up 20 min

[nova kelp]

frees up shadow dance to put it back in the class tree

[haughty flicker]

shadow dance to move deathstalker mark

[nova kelp]

shadow dance for dsm

oh man

I just climaxed

[maiden sierra]

First time i started using plater i was trying to figure out how to import nameplate color changes for enemy npcs for new seasom by hard coding it on wago.
After 4 hours i gave up and figured out there is literally an import function in the enemy npc section

[balmy condor]

What of void dh spec is a shadow bard support

[nova kelp]

it's probably what they'll do

[balmy condor]

Big reading comprehension

[nova kelp]

it can't be ranged right

coz like

that kills havoc

unless it doesn't do the dh mark

[haughty flicker]

the boss is ranged

so gg

get fucked havoc

[ashen orbit]

Whispyr I have never been told so many times that assasination is easy

[nova kelp]

but if it DOESN'T do the dh mark, then it's only ever the SECOND dh

[ashen orbit]

as this lotr extended edition guide

[nova kelp]

probably adding more 20yard specs

gg new dh

loser

[ashen orbit]

it is a banger though, but it's really gonna hurt when I suck ass when it's that easy

[nova kelp]

imagine if there is no dh spec

the devs are going to get fucking lambasted

[maiden sierra]

Fastest delve today?

[dense cedar]

Fungal Folly is fun!(gal)

[nova kelp]

archival assault

[dense cedar]

[nova kelp]

I do like 4 min casual runs in there

at t11

[dense cedar]

archival gates are actually so nice

they don't destealth you

[nova kelp]

that delve is goated

[dense cedar]

which is a rare thing for blizz to remember

[burnt star]

They even bother to do a sidequest about dh using the void.

[nova kelp]

dude, if they had guts

it would be a side quest

on with a last bit

that's on par with the green fire

[dense cedar]

tbh why do dh even need another spec

havoc already mega aoe spam ST rotation

[nova kelp]

but say what i said in a way that makes sense

you get me

[haughty flicker]

im almost certain there isnt one

not until midnight at least

[nova kelp]

nah

it will be a .5 if there is

[hearty reef]

@balmy condor whats the most chopped take you read in this ptr cycle

[balmy condor]

I repress the worst ones as a defense mechanism

[dense cedar]

Does shiv's secondary effect just not work with atrophic?

[balmy condor]

Correct

[hearty reef]

Take this a venting occasion

[dense cedar]

I suppose that's healthy for it

[nova kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/war-vietnam-ptsd-shell-shock-moment-gif-3022747568394546158

[dense cedar]

i don't wanna be asked to shiv for dr

[nova kelp]

whispyr remember the hot takes

[cunning needle]

https://tenor.com/view/uni-cat-1000-yard-stare-espresso-gif-5540644428338043927

[nova kelp]

how do you reckon ole 1 macro a day bro is doing since the 1 button assist?

think he's ok?

should check on him

[static glacier]

in what world does a class's other specs justify anything to do with another spec

[nova kelp]

1 MACRO A DAY MAKES YOU STRONGER THEY SAY

[cunning needle]

shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up

but yeah

[dense cedar]

idk what DH players are feeling, but why would you use resources to develop something if people aren't complaining aobut the other

[cunning needle]

guys probably in shambles

he's lost his entire schtick

[static glacier]

that's not how it works lmao

[dense cedar]

guardian exists cos baking it inside feral was just bad for the system they had

wasn't done for no reason

[static glacier]

whop was complaining about dev in 10.2?

tell me

[nova kelp]

he can transition into making awesome ai tracks for content creators

[static glacier]

fucking tell me

I was a dev main that season NO ONE COMPLAIED OR ASKED FOR AUG

[nova kelp]

WHISPYR

speaking of which

[dense cedar]

isn't aug really different than other dps specs

[static glacier]

how do you know the new dh spec wouldn't be very different too?

[nova kelp]

I'm devastated you didn't have a catchy ai tune on your recent encyclopedia

[dense cedar]

i guess void could be like that

[static glacier]

hear me out

[dense cedar]

but no one seems to like aug?

so idk why they'd do it again

tho I guess void dh might have been in the works for like 4 years now or w/e

[static glacier]

they'll try to keep single dps spec classes tuned from being too hard to play (their words, regarding stuff like ret and shadow) but other than that I don't think they've ever thought

let's change this spec bc of another spec on the class

[cunning needle]

CAN THEY STOP ADDING NEW SPECS

HOLY SHIT

THE MORE SPECS THEY ADD

[dense cedar]

I'd assume if they are to add a new spec to dh, it'd ahve to have some interesting idea come along with it

[cunning needle]

THE LESS BALANCED THINGS BECOME

[dense cedar]

idk why'd they just make havoc but it applies dots

it could jsut be DH aug tho

I guess that is possible

[haughty flicker]

i mean

the other two bosses abilities are like 1 for 1 what the spec abilities are

no reason to assume the void dh would be different

[ashen orbit]

Did they add a new specc?

I didnt think they did

[dense cedar]

no

[static glacier]

not yet anyway

[ashen orbit]

Isnt there like, Water druids, and fire druids, they never became classes

[dense cedar]

I just feel like it wouldn't be a thing they do without some kinda reason for it

some niche they wanna add to the DH class

[ashen orbit]

I think notoriously, they like DND and just do some class flair for fun on some of these

[dense cedar]

like was mentioned before, green fire style quest would e a more likely outcome

[ashen orbit]

Not like void... archers?

really exist

So thats another example

[haughty flicker]

alleria is just an arcane archer

[nova kelp]

I mean, technically if we REALLY wanted a BALANCED game we'd have 3 specs total, they'd be called Heal, Tank, Dps

[haughty flicker]

or gloomstalker ranger

[royal hazel]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[cunning needle]

nah heals would be too OP

[haughty flicker]

only nerds care about balance

[nova kelp]

yeah look

I'm a fighting game guy

so hot take

balance, like PROPER balance is bad for the game

because it's also boring

[dense cedar]

I think all mage specs should be unplayable garbage I agree

[cunning needle]

yeah but wow you are fighting your demons

and a computer

not each other

in pvp inbalance is kinda fine if things cancel each other out

everyone is strong so no one is strong kinda thing

but not so much in pve

[nova kelp]

Rock: scissors are fine, paper is OP

[haughty flicker]

the game could literally have every single spec within .1% of each other and there would still be a meta

and you'd get declined to 10s if you arent that

[nova kelp]

mate kids these days don't even know what meta means

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-angry-grandpa-gif-14233249

[dense cedar]

its that thing facebook became

[haughty flicker]

i just saw the ghost of a former guildie in a delve

[nova kelp]

take the most compromising selfie you can with it

and put it straight in the guild disc

[ashen orbit]

also I for one, think this 3.5 hour long assasination guide did need a crash out about the name of Cinderbrew Meadery or wahtever it is called

[nova kelp]

I think you mean Sindermead broery

[ashen orbit]

It comforts me that every rogue is kinda mind broken like me

[nova kelp]

occasionally we get really for serious people in here

they normally reroll blood dk

[dense cedar]

im Normal actually

[normal mist]

riight

[dense cedar]

[ashen orbit]

I doubt that, but whatever you need

[peak lake]

araz is so fked as deathstalker
Switching mark is shit, and amp timer are 3:00 ~~ 3:15 and 6:45

but fatebound is fked cuz of so many cleave

arg

[nova kelp]

do what I'm doing

just get prism for the mean time as your goal

worry about the forge later on when everyone is finished arguing

save your voice for stating your case to win the loom

literally EVERY mother fucker is after that thing

that things more hotly contested than "the 1 haste ring in the season"

[peak lake]

was talking about the boss, not the trinket 😄

[nova kelp]

just play sub

but yeah who the fuck knows

[clever sparrow]

how much haste do we need on Deathstalker?

[dense cedar]

don't matter

[clever sparrow]

do we go full mastery > crit?

[dense cedar]

don't matter

[nova kelp]

just sim

listen to the robot

[dense cedar]

sin rogue should be able to off-hand a warglaive

[nova kelp]

warglaives and daggers should just be one handers

[clever sparrow]

i cant sim everysingle item in the season to see what to farm thats why im asking

[nova kelp]

well crit is good, mastery is good, haste is also good, vers is less good but not bad

[dense cedar]

just farm a dungeon for trinkets u want, then farm whatever M+ drops something you have that isn't hero track

[nova kelp]

agi on the other hand

agi is VERY good

[dense cedar]

agi is fine

i like wdps personally

funny to say

[nova kelp]

that's fair

[normal mist]

wait i have an answer

[clever sparrow]

like how much haste we aim for

[nova kelp]

we don't "aim"

[clever sparrow]

we use whatever we drop lol

[nova kelp]

for the most part the thing we "aim" for is ilvl

[nova kelp]

almost literally, yeah

[clever sparrow]

lmao

[nova kelp]

if it's an upgrade in terms of ilvl

the answer almost 100% of the time

is put it on

[clever sparrow]

im not tallking about ilvl

im just saying if we get 2 items with same ilvl

[dense cedar]

if its hero track or better, probably good to just run it

[normal mist]

www.raidbots.com

[nova kelp]

no I realise this, I'm making an effort to explain how little you need to care about aiming for stats

[dense cedar]

just sim it otherwise

[clever sparrow]

then whats the fun in it

[nova kelp]

oh

[clever sparrow]

i love 100% mastery

[nova kelp]

oh if yoou want FUN

imo you pick haste and then speed

[dense cedar]

if u want fun

[nova kelp]

those are the FUN stats

[dense cedar]

you should be playing survival hunter

ofc

[clever sparrow]

Agreed time to roll outlaw

[nova kelp]

outlaw causes brain lag

that lowers haste

[raw marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/jim-carrey-throw-up-puke-vomit-gagging-gif-16080834

[nova kelp]

but irl haste

[raw marlin]

Why is your name different colour again

[nova kelp]

losing irl haste is giga bad stats

my name has always been peach

[raw marlin]

Nahhh

[nova kelp]

my chosen spec is "rogue"

[raw marlin]

This looks weird on my phone lol

[clever sparrow]

why not SP tho

you can become xalatas her self

[nova kelp]

I don't want to BE the queen

I just want to lick her toes

[clever sparrow]

then become male SP so you can be her servant

[nova kelp]

I can't wait to build a shrine to the queen when we get housing

[clever sparrow]

what now

[night vessel]

we talking moomy xal'ateth?

[magic ginkgo]

When pooling, do you hold envenom until your 2x stacked envenom will run out or just to the very last bit of 1 stack?

[pliant remnant]

moomin xaleaeataeath

[nova kelp]

...pool...ing?

[magic ginkgo]

well not actually pooling but

[ashen orbit]

From the long ass guide it seems we spam envenom most of the time

[magic ginkgo]

when are out of thistle and you're teeterin on the edge of having no energy

[nova kelp]

yeah actually though

just like

[ashen orbit]

send it brother

[nova kelp]

don't think about it that hard

just send

this SOUNDS like a meme

[ashen orbit]

Genuinely, I can summarize this guide as

[nova kelp]

it's not

just send

[ashen orbit]

"Most minmax is pointless at this point, just send it"

[dense cedar]

the most u care about is having the envenom buff active just before u press kb really

that's the most u care about pooling anything

[clever sparrow]

why everyone so casual all of a sudden

[dense cedar]

wdym

[nova kelp]

even if there was a theoretical gain in "min maxing" your envenom overlaps (there isn't) it would be so small you wouldn't consider it until like you had 100% uptime

[clever sparrow]

you guys are getting soft

[nova kelp]

coz the 99% - 100% gain would be bigger

it's not a softness thing

it's just like

peeps worry SO much about ultra min maxing like their secondaries, or their craft order that they've planed 3 expansions ahead

meanwhile

they link a fucking log

and have like 70% uptime

and it's like

FUN DA MEN TALS

[clever sparrow]

OH CRAFTING! i forgot to craft my dagger

[brave stump]

FANTA MENTOS

[static glacier]

bro he fucking knows what he's done

@balmy condor holy mother of yap 3:33

[brave stump]

MONSTER

[night vessel]

mommy

[static glacier]

needed to keep the vid going for 4 more secs smh

[clever sparrow]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are boot/wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" overall, but Blessed Weapon Grip + Dawnthread can be VERY VERY slightly better in m+

Always craft a dagger for at least an offhand. Put Ascencion or Blessed Weapon Grip on it. Additional Crafts should be Boots/Cape/Wrist/Belt for your second embellishment, after that whatever low item level slot is fine, necks can be good crafts.
If you have a myth track weapon in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[nova kelp]

it's not called an ENCYCLOPEDIA to be pamphlet length

[static glacier]

bro you can clearly see

in his eyes

he's got that look

[nova kelp]

that's just autism

[warm vortex]

At both the start and the end

[static glacier]

WHAT HAPPENED

[nova kelp]

I'm fuckiing ;rollling

[ashen orbit]

Oh shit

My secondary stats dont mean shit

Yes Whispyr sir

[static glacier]

who hurt whispyr 😭

[warm vortex]

He was talking about rogue from like
1 am - 4 am

What do you think

[static glacier]

how do you know?

[nova kelp]

that's so fucking

mate

[static glacier]

as far as im aware this video is a film

[nova kelp]

that's a meme

[warm vortex]

Kid named ingame clock

[nova kelp]

on it's own

[warm vortex]

And he also says it at the end of the video

[nova kelp]

"my voice hurts"

[static glacier]

ok skimming it, this is litterally everything

[nova kelp]

encyclopedia

[ashen orbit]

Bro, the secondary stats point

is so fucking good

[nova kelp]

what point is the second point?

[ashen orbit]

Do I rise above exclusively as Assasination or do I rise above with all speccs

[nova kelp]

like I've had this issue with the " stat > stat 2 > stat 3" system for ages

[humble verge]

crafted so much shit on this bruh

[nova kelp]

like when you equate them

they always end uup like stat 1 is worth 2.1 dps per
stat 2 is like 2.0
stat 3 is like 1.9 and the community is like "OH FUCKING DUMP STAT"

[ashen orbit]

but didnt enchant?

[ashen orbit]

Yeah I get that

[humble verge]

I CRAFTED THEM AN HOUR AGO IM GETTING BOOSTED THRU DELVES ALR

shiz im learnin this dawg

[ashen orbit]

Jeez, okay sorry

[humble verge]

but honeslty

devoker feels easy

just like

fire breath

firestorm

engulf

and then spam pyre

for billjon dps

[marble hemlock]

https://i.imgur.com/NSeC5zA.jpeg

[pliant remnant]

but honestly

X spec feels easy

just like

spell A

spell B

spell C

and then spam spell D

[humble verge]

nah but like mage and shaman was hella guac

[pliant remnant]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/124251543334551553/1091354935104380948/cute_cat_story.gif

[humble verge]

i could not make em to work

enha s1

hella poopi

[lost wharf]

That gif is awesome

[ashen orbit]

Many speccs I thought were easy, turned out that it wasnt easy, I just sucked ass and didnt know how to optimize it

[humble verge]

yeah im just like

[ashen orbit]

and as you become the best at a specc, you find it easy as fuck again often

[humble verge]

pressing buttons after opener tho

but if you just press the buttons right at the start

most mobs are already half hp

[livid folio]

Quick question regarding vanish in the opener: do i KB + CB into Vanish Ambush?

Wowhead shows mutilate but that just turns into ambush right?

[dense cedar]

mut and ambush are different buttons normally

only blindside makes mut ambush

[solar wyvern]

In fatebound theyre pretty similar in value i believe, the raw ambush from vanish

3-5cp ambush vs 2-6cp mut

But im no fatebound expert i just push buttons

[magic ginkgo]

im assuming it's because mutilate has a bleed so you wanna keep that rolling and maybe because it's two separate hits can crit separately?

probably not that big of a difference though imo

[livid folio]

Alright thanks 🙂

[dense cedar]

a crit ambush is also 4 cp

assuming u have improved ambush ofc

[warm vortex]

To explain
There is a talent that makes your CB cause your next 2 envens to match your previous coin flip
because you just pressed KB, that means your last flip was an edge case

you also vanish because it activates double jepardy, which means your next flip is doubled

[dense cedar]

think the question was aobut the mut use

[livid folio]

Yeah i get that part, was just Confused why mut over ambush

[warm vortex]

Ohh

I'm dumb

You see, ever since i switched to BM

my braincells have been decaying

[livid folio]

But i dont need ambush on my bar then as fatebound i guess. Good 2 know

[dense cedar]

I guess its also a mut cos of Deal Fate

since it has 2 chances to give the extra cp

probably v minor tho

[spice surge]

No

Deal fate is either +1 or 0 cp, never 2

[dense cedar]

well yeah

well actually idk probability math

but 1 attempt seems worse than 2 attempts

but baseline u already get 3?

I hate math

[spice surge]

Or well ye, you get higher chance at it

[dense cedar]

does the higher chance matter if failing it means u have less than the ambush

[spice surge]

But either way ambush and mutilate are pretty much the same

[dense cedar]

mutilate is a prettier looking button imo

so better to press that

[tawdry root]

Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but does anyone who uses Whispyr's WA pack know how to remove this master assassin icon? I can't find it anywhere in the dynamic effects pack and it seems to only show up intermittently/replaces the stealth icon

[warm vortex]

Also i checked the wowhead guide
For the raid do we juist swap between fatebound pure st and DS with splatter

[warm vortex]

I think theres a section in his mega guide where he explains it?

Timestamped at the end i think

[dense cedar]

its inside the setting for Stealth

under Trigger

[tawdry root]

Oh awesome, thank you both

[marsh fjord]

Use the search function and type in master assassin also works if you can’t find anything

[foggy stirrup]

somebody got a excel with the bis gear for raid and m+ all specs?

[scarlet orbit]

In this special case it doesnt work because its just a trigger inside another wa which is not named master assassin

[tawdry root]

Yeah for some reason typing it wasnt working either, but I fixed it now

[thorn lynx]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[foggy stirrup]

apreciated

[marsh fjord]

That makes it indeed harder

[dense cedar]

Most important question about the Whispyr video

When is the sequel??

[pliant remnant]

When the omega rogue rework comes in Midnight (not copium)

[marsh fjord]

In a few months when rogue gets reworked 😂😂

[dense cedar]

assassination ranged spec in midnight

[marsh fjord]

Twin

[dense cedar]

poison blowdart spec

[iron carbon]

You sure we can't get 2+2 cp with mutilate?

[spring prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

[warm vortex]

For ranged assa i'd prefer chemical warfare shit
Mix it a bit with surv so you can bomb stuff with gas

[iron carbon]

The mutilate hit twice, each hit can crit, no?

[nova aspen]

thats a good copium gif

[golden loom]

yeah but if a ability procs seal fate, deal fate procs

its not per seal fate proc

so like if u fok and crit 4 targets as fatebound u get 1 (base) + 4 (seal fate) + 1 (deal fate)

[dense cedar]

Deal Fate only happens once per ability

regardless of seal fate procs

[normal mist]

lol

[normal mist]

Its called sim your character

[dense cedar]

sin* your character

all ur toons should be sin rogues

[sacred ibex]

The assa uses crimson tempest on ST? I dont know how to do ST yet xd

[uneven marsh]

Guys, didn't check Whispyr version of LOTR yet.
How many different beverages does he uses ?
I Hope he embraced the meme and used 10+

[solar wyvern]

Did u know when Whispyr kicked the helmet on the hill he actually broke his toe ?!?!

[marble hemlock]

that was aragorn

[solar wyvern]

No it was Whispyr

[marble hemlock]

[dense cedar]

it was actually Seliathan

[marble hemlock]

definitely wasnt me, im more of a hobbit

[solar wyvern]

Just like when Whispyr parried the dagger Eleem threw in their duel at the end of the first movie

[dense cedar]

whispyr is the name of the scientist not the monster

[solar wyvern]

Eleem was supposed to miss but the sub rogue makeup made it hard to see

So he had to deflect it and they kept the cut

Lord of the Rogues is quite an interesting movie

[golden loom]

and thats why whispyr hates poisoned knife

[solar wyvern]

Zeross and Zac can be merry and pippin

[fresh kelp]

I see them more as the 2 halves of gollum

[solar wyvern]

Fatebound? Precious???

Koffing can be gandalf who just shows up and saves the day

Realz can be saruman who sold us out to DH (JOKING)

[ashen orbit]

what's fuu?

[solar wyvern]

Samwise

[livid folio]

Sub guide writer

[somber hawk]

Guyz how do we go if tank keep pulling and we cant stealth between pack. Do we vanish to put garrote and rupture with spread or we just FoK and spread rupture ?

[ashen orbit]

based

[solar wyvern]

Your previous ruptures will carry forward and you can just apply new bleeds to the new pack while those are ticking. If its at 1% chain (this is bad tanking) either kidney the mob and kill it for restealth or vanish ye

[balmy crater]

yo, on M+ talents, I'm finding it difficult to sustain energy / do meaningful single target damage on pure single target bosses. I kinda do my opener then find if I don't have my dots rolling on several targets, my energy sustain is rough and I kinda just afk and auto attack a bunch.

Is this normal or am I doing something wrong?

Playing a deathstalker hybrid build that plays around caustic spatter, passes on the Zoldyck column and takes all the capstones from kingsbane through to sudden demise

[iron carbon]

I was mistaking the stuff

[dense cedar]

normal

[solar wyvern]

Normal

!design

[prisma monolith]

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. As a burst spec our damage is mainly loaded into Deathmark/Shiv and massive Envenoms through stacking multiple nature damage buffs such as Lingering Darkness, Shiv, Darkest Night, Amplifying Poison, and more. This comes with the natural downside of our damage suffering outside of these windows, in part due to the designed lack of energy slowing us down.

Because of this, there is only one minor (0.3%) min-max with energy, which is pooling 3-4 seconds into an upcoming Kingsbane. Ideally this would put you at around 50-60% energy before you enter your Kingsbane, which is more than enough energy alongside thistle tea. Outside of that, spam Envenom and just accept that you will run out of energy. There is nothing you can do to not run out of energy. Playing around Envenom uptime also is not relevant anymore, as Twist the knife allows for two stacks at a time, which reduces wasted uptime dramatically. Without twist the knife, wasting uptime is unavoidable.

[dense cedar]

sin rogue being 0 apm really hurts people

[proper vortex]

!macro

[prisma monolith]

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[somber hawk]

great thx !

[iron carbon]

But what Deal fate do?

[solar wyvern]

1 cp on seal fate proc

[solar wyvern]

Only one instance tho

[dense cedar]

But only once

1 time per button

regardless of any other seal fate procs

its just a little treat

nothing more

lets you go from 0-5 cp with mut tho

[solar wyvern]

My favorite part of deal fate is proccing blindside like 4 times and just hitting ambush 5cp envenom ambush 5cp envenom...

[dense cedar]

blindside feels so good to use

love the talent

[iron carbon]

That's in fb tree ffs

[dense cedar]

ye?

[iron carbon]

That's why I couldn't remember the talent

[balmy crater]

okay, sweet, thank you

[dense cedar]

LMFAO

[solar wyvern]

Ah you'll get used to it this patch

[iron carbon]

I was like, they miss spelled seal fate

[solar wyvern]

Fatebound not only is good, but it feels good to play as well

[dense cedar]

feels good to not be playing deathstalker you mean

[iron carbon]

Yes, I did some dummies but didn't read talents again

[solar wyvern]

Well no i mean in general, idk if its true but my apm on fatebound feels higher

More cp generation

[dense cedar]

love how the visuals of Fatebound betray it being designed for outlaw

Deal Fate is noticable to a degree ye

[warm vortex]

Btw, why is the assa ST so shit in m+

Is it just cause we have a lot of talents that are completly dead for ST in the M+ build.

[dense cedar]

tho when u press mut and get 4cp from it

its just like old times lol

[solar wyvern]

If you crit on shiv and kb you can go from 0 to 5cp and finish right away its just nummy

[haughty flicker]

ye but less energy

[solar wyvern]

Well bleed is the build to play and it has no amp no ttk no dashing no poisom bomb

[haughty flicker]

id be surprised if both hero talents werent within like 1-2 apm of each other

[dense cedar]

CT in ST is a gain but it does make you basically just be doing matinence for most of your ST rotation

[iron carbon]

Yes

[warm vortex]

Tbh next season im prolly just playing hybrid as i prefer it

[solar wyvern]

Hybrid isnt bad

Bleed is just kinda turbo rn with aoe shiv

22 seconds of aoe shiv in a pack goes wild

[warm vortex]

True True

[light nimbus]

Shiv nerf nezt week

[warm vortex]

The DS set makes your shiv stronger right?

Or longer

[solar wyvern]

Makes it 11 seconds

[warm vortex]

potato potato same thing

[solar wyvern]

And procs a dsm

[warm vortex]

Realised that expression makes no sense in text

[uncut void]

how important is target swapping guys? heard it doesnt matter that much

[burnt juniper]

you have to drop a lot of ST talents to be able to do sin's nutty aoe

[light nimbus]

Rupture on 5 targets

Thats it

[warm vortex]

Afaik not too much?
But if it's a pack of 6 or smth no harm im doing mousover so you get 6 rups and gars instead of 5 but like
Not too much of a dif

[warm vortex]

Funny thing is in raid you can just get spatter and do good :D

[burnt juniper]

hehe yeah, but even there sin's aoe isn't that great

[warm vortex]

I mean

Consider you change 1 node

[solar wyvern]

Broodtwister would like a word with you

[warm vortex]

For just that, it's pretty good imo

Assuming it's ds

[burnt juniper]

TRUE

[golden loom]

Spread cleave bad! constant aoe good!

Target swapping meow!!!

[burnt juniper]

yeah i was thinking more along burst aoe for sure

[solar wyvern]

Tbh DS do some crazy damage to araz and soulbinder me thinks

If the adds actually live unlike ptr

Singular focus go boom

[golden loom]

I am hoping that soul hunters is either not as aids with mark as I am thinking, or somehow fatebound being viable

[solar wyvern]

If youre aware of the timings it should be very easy to put your mark on the next intermission target and continue to fok envenom

[marsh fjord]

and if not you can just use vanish

a good guild would put all adds on top of each other tho

so we can play CT

[golden loom]

do they not kinda jump around and whatever even during the fight

cause thats more what I was thinking about

[marsh fjord]

hard to leverage CT in that fight i think

[golden loom]

like does the guy you are on ever just double vengeful retreat -> fel rush -> fel rush -> hearthstone out

[warm vortex]

Oh my god i never read that talent properly

That's so much better than i thought

I'm fucking stupid

[faint venture]

oh, thought this was for classic rogues

[golden loom]

assassination in classic?

[dense cedar]

classic? more like

not

[faint venture]

mop classic, i'm looking for that disc

[dense cedar]

[faint venture]

hmm, everything i find links me back here

[normal mist]

Liars!

[normal mist]

check https://discord.gg/9mN2d88z

or https://discord.gg/H6xYQGhz

[faint venture]

cheers

[fathom minnow]

!macro

[prisma monolith]

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[peak helm]

Whispyr's vid isn't pinned in channel? Seems like a miss

[frigid lagoon]

what fiber is best for raiding? prolly playing sub and sin

[spice surge]

Doesnt matter really, either one

Just not haste for sub, but you can swap it freely so

[frigid lagoon]

so crit mastery vers doesnt matter?

[dense cedar]

don't matter

[gritty laurel]

yeah, sin cares very little about which secondaries you have, just that you have a bunch. you can sim it if you really want to

[dense cedar]

the true thing that matters

is tertiary stats

[cunning needle]

the only tert stat that matters is speed

[dense cedar]

i love avoidance

[cunning needle]

wasted stat

you already have 50% with feint

or 40%

and also

healers heal

[tawdry root]

For FB, is lucky coin supposed to be guaranteed before getting tier set?

[spice surge]

Yes

If you do the opener correctly you always get the 7 flips

[golden loom]

wait what

[haughty flicker]

not before tier

[golden loom]

you need 2piece

for it to be 100%

[spice surge]

Oh wait

I read that as after you get the tier

My bad

[golden loom]

[tawdry root]

no worries thanks - I didnt get it for like 3 openers in a row in target dummy and just wanted to make sure lol

[distant plinth]

Probably go for mastery

[long hawk]

With fate bound build, do we vanish before the shiv or after the shiv on the opener?

[dense cedar]

should shiv before deathmark

Vanish after kb

[long hawk]

I’m dumb mb I meant kingsbane

[severe meadow]

Good luck with vaults pookies

[dense cedar]

(well u can actually hold the vanish if ur post kb hit is 5 cp till after an enveonom but w/e)

[long hawk]

Kingsbane/coldblood

[dense cedar]

kb+cb > vanish > mut/ambush

[winter stirrup]

!gear

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1404805771904024597/assa_v1.webp

[dense cedar]

evil image

at least got that note I guess

[thick juniper]

Good morning!

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1403486905915408524/Dark_Mode.jpg

[dense cedar]

!down

!turnaround

[thick juniper]

lmao sorry

[tranquil lynx]

Sorry for asking this but im new to the game and i dont know, is it only 1 item per mythic and raid per week or its capped now because of the start of the new season? Havent paid much attention in S2. Thanks.

[normal mist]

raid and m0 is weekly

m0 can awards multiple items per run

or none

Unless i understood your question wrong

[tepid grove]

hello guys, I'm thinking about playing assa next season, coming from outlaw only is it hard to learn ? and to master ? ty

[normal mist]

No and no

It is the simpliest spec in ST, harder in m+

[tepid grove]

well nice, thanks !

[normal mist]

https://youtu.be/HZXEXxFABJM?si=GSlwE3qtZwlqqws5

[tepid grove]

thanks, gonna look at this and learn

[dense cedar]

this video sucks, bad youtuber!

Just use the wowhead guide, the writer much better rogue player

[normal mist]

LOL

[turbid nymph]

Hi guys i'm a noob, why do we vanish with FB ?

[golden loom]

this talent

[dense cedar]

uwucutegirl too fast

rip me

[normal mist]

rekt

[golden loom]

idk im so bored

[turbid nymph]

thanks guys !

[golden loom]

close to just going to sleep so new season starts faster..

[dense cedar]

new season starts in 7 years dw

[warm vortex]

Tbh, i have the same feeling

I just wanna flip coins and summon a fuckton of beasts

[hearty reef]

erm

3 hour yapp?

[cobalt dagger]

Isn’t the writer of the wowhead guide and this YouTuber the same guy?

[harsh anchor]

I woke up and can’t look up, left or right. I’m cooked

Batman

[dense cedar]

that is the joke

[urban anvil]

https://youtu.be/KU6MJ-4kagU?si=nRVPspSTTCWUxi_k

[dense cedar]

this video is a myth

[urban anvil]

Wdym ?

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[dense cedar]

[torn dome]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[tall jay]

Ok ok…so…, I’m gonna go out on a limb and say I need to re watch Whispyrs vid again but, question. Fatebound/Deathstalker….same stats or different gear stats.

[dense cedar]

same

actually wait

u should rewatch the gear section

very informative! @tall jay

[tall jay]

Was going to put in on in the back ground

[static glacier]

ay guys, anyone have a good solution for offensive cd timings on kyveza?

1st intermission is right as 2nd kb comes up, if you hold and send after then 2nd intermission happens as kb would come off cd

is the angle just holding the lone kb and sending dm on cd?

[sudden hound]

i held second dm for about 15s

just send on cd otherwise

[static glacier]

so 2nd kb just send|?

even if its into intermission

[turbid nymph]

is it normal that my lingering darkenss aint working on wa ? (Afenar Whispgoat edit)

[sudden hound]

its that or lose the solo kb entirely

[static glacier]

largely the same, ds likes mast hast more than fatebound which loves mast crit

[marsh fjord]

Are you in fatebound?

[static glacier]

but both should be mast >= crit > haste > vers

[turbid nymph]

nah deathstalker

[marsh fjord]

Then its indeed weird

[static glacier]

reimport it

[tall jay]

Thanks guys!

[distant plinth]

do we clip envenoms still? pooling and waiting till last second of envenom and boom?

[ashen orbit]

I think you just spam envenom

from the guide

[umbral sigil]

If im a bad rogue for not pooling or tracking envenom debuff then I will die as a bad rogue

[turbid nymph]

i tried but same problem

[torn dome]

the !tea macro doesn't seem to be actually drinking my team when I shiv... any ideas

[dense cedar]

do you have thistle tea in our inventory or bank

like the item version

[torn dome]

maybe because you are actually casting Shiv and not dragged the magro onto your bars

GG

[azure roost]

do i just do 0 st without tier?

cause im gapping on aoe

but st feels like im shooting a water gun

[dense cedar]

M+ build?

[azure roost]

yes

[dense cedar]

if ur runnign something like bleed build

your pure st is just bad

[azure roost]

yea i guess

[dense cedar]

with assassination rogue its good for the tank to drag things onto the boss

[azure roost]

it felt really bad tbh

[dense cedar]

can run the cleave build if u want more st

[azure roost]

its ight this was fun regardless

i dont understand how with this low gear im doing more dmg than my pally

thats crazy

[umbral sigil]

shhhh

the official story is rogue is the worst its ever been

[deft shard]

it may be dumb but i like the hybrid build for low key and m+0

mobs die too fast anyway

so i put more damage on boss

to clean faster the dj

[umbral sigil]

just press your buttons faster than the other dps

and dont forget to strafe spam

[deft shard]

https://tenor.com/view/sml-bowser-junior-stupid-button-button-dumb-button-gif-25605935

pov u play ret

(i was main ret)

[azure roost]

im not even aiming to play sin

i actually wanted to play sub

but this shits crazy

[umbral sigil]

Sin is love sin is life

[deft shard]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[static glacier]

id just play sub if you wanna play sub

if it's actually as weak as sims suggest it'll get buffed in 1-2 weeks

[deft shard]

play what you like

do you think assa will be buff?

[static glacier]

idk, I suspect sub might though

normally if sin doesn't sim lower than the others it either means sin is op or the others suck really bad

[deft shard]

rly?

i see everywhere that assa is superior in m+ and when i play i see that, but why it sim so low

[warm vortex]

God i love how big mutil is in st

[deft shard]

because of sudden death?

[static glacier]

sims are for raid

[weary spear]

Raid and m+ are not the same metrics

[static glacier]

in m+ sub is playable