#assassination
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Hahahaha
Is it possible to shadowmeld+stealth in a bossfight in m+? or only on trash?
you guys actually play WORLD OF Warcraft? I still play rogue in Warcraft: Orcs and Humans!
i hate my life
No only thrash
Like myself
Trash*
on another note is OSRS a good game to have inbetween pulls in raid as my guild takes 5 hours between boss?
where is uber, there has not been a shitpost in a while, is he well???
Play aram in between pulls
This is poopy
im not that gay
Please tell me this is fake news (I havent actually listened to the video yet)
in bleed build in m+
🙏 I aint playing bleed
Bleed is life
I play bleed for low keys sure
I dont think you understand what words mean
Kingsbane is peepee poopoo
before we judge: how high you pushing one trick?
youre correct
I think assa being ignored is the best thing for the species
bleed is literally played all the way to +20 keys now
no bleed is now better in all levels lol
No buffs no nerfs
Which species ?
bears
idk if I push at all. Only pushed a bit s3 DF
i'm doomed to always be one minor version behind on the current information, apparently
Pug gamer
oh yeah, if you aren't pushing then bleed is just better
dont have a life


hybrid or cleave is so much more fun
!gear
What are you looking for?
im just so surprised people push keys..
i too am a hybrid build enjoyer, but you gotta accept the fact that unfortunatly were all stuck playing bleed
like the game is not that good fr outside of raids 🤭
You cannot say this and think its right
not that surpirsing lol
get out
Kingsbane is infinitely more fun 
even if it sucks ass now
I like having my fun not covered in ass
Niiiice
Uber rambling nice
jokes on u when they turn out to be 4 stacked in rwf still
obv we push keys
get carried by 4 people or get carried by 19
one is clearly better
yeah, 4 players

19 people wont complain
you guys get carried?
no
Assa rogue mains arent we?
if you arent top 50 world you can clear anything with 19 people. quote me
i did like 200 delve resets today it felt like
trying to get enough of those heroic piece boss things
clear stage 5 cancer
Poison bomb covering kyveza lines was annoying but shes dead 😄
crazy cope work
is that a real wording
so for simming, should i always just sim fatebound st, or deathstalker st, just cause idk how many bosses we will be fatebound on to get more realistic sim
OK SO they have been working on hunter recently that means rogue is next for changes, yes?

yes

spriest needs another rework first
How dare you insinuate i would be one of those pistol out of their front bussy dice rolling keyboard smashing face rollers
ye ye ofc
yo what
the assa movie actually has hidden minecraft part
whisps assa movie?
whisp when he decides to use all his intelligence
DM flips coin that counts as both heads and tails, tails coins big damage, shiv boosts big damage even more (cosmic damage counts as nature, holy, and arcane). good damage.
tier set makes it 2 coin flips instead. double good = even more good.
Outlaw rogue to keep uptime
Hello hello, quick question. When we are in a large pack, say 10+ targets. Do we generally just rupture twice to get this on 6 targets? Then go?
Or is there any point in trying to get some extra ruptures and garroted in on the additional mobs?
If not, then at how many target count is it worth applying additional rupture/garrote to the rest of the target packs?
guys did any sin rogues kill ?? kyveza
Whoever it is, is based
or is that just an outlaw ting
plenty, yes
no! only buffs after rwf
ok ty i will try tonight
ye any spec can survive kyveza fine
U can kill it on all 3 specs
Each spec has its own difficulty within the fight
i never even tried it ima learn tonight
For the visions, which 5 masks are the easiest would you guys say for assa?
or in general
Just rotate defensives for portals and have a brann pot going
And you'll be fine
And make sure to be using elusiveness instead of cheat death
im pretty sure theres a bunch in here who has
Which I feel should be self evident but apparently a lot of people just weren't using it
50 pulls later i still didnt use elusiveness
because i wasnt really thinking about ngl 😄
really dumb
what da hell is a bran pot
ohhh
am i seeing this right. no kingsbane for the m plus build?
I think it was more intuitive if you did kyveza on s1
yup all bleed build
yeah id idnt play s1
what skills to use on bran
Yea makes sense
I did the random buffs and the quiz but don't know if it matters that much
They all kinda suck
good tuning 🫡

The pots have both an instant heal and a hot so don't be afraid to walk over them early like when portals are starting
||@balmy condor that baya at the end of the 3 hour video make me tear up||
Did you get jumpscared by "the hot envenom loads"?
i gotchu
Spoilers and an @ ping uh oh
ty bro
i will one shot it now with this advice

||
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Maybe I’m. Crazy, but a little surprised we didn’t see a little single target bump in this last tuning. At least based on sim damage
dont let the frost dk's hear this
Sim damage is fake

Daily reminder that our sim was lowest of all dps when we were op in 10.2 
people currently have their nose out of joint over this.
Yeah I certainly listen to the izen videos too much, but I’m hoping it is fake anyway and doesn’t matter
LoU perfect thing to use for next tier YUP
I love looking at new season logs with old tier sets and gear
Izens tier list is LITERALLY just simcraft in order 
exactly but OMG THEY SAID IT WAS ONLY C TIER
izen 
heatdeath of the universe is guaranteed, so how much does any of this really matter?
I used to watch Izen but then I learned the game
!fuu
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
haven't heard that name in years
I mean it’s just the pure sim’s right? I realize that may end up being silly
Nuke ele
is he banned from every class discord now or is he still alive somewhere
Yea idk he used to be a bit more nuanced, but his tier list this time is literally just simcraft in order
True the only thing that matters is that new daggers look cool af
You've gotta give him props. it's pretty impressive to get banned from so many
true
I didnt know you could get banned from DH disc
I wish i had a ranged spec to get upset about as well tbh
need to spread a lot of misinformation to get banned from that many discords
wait i didint know bro was banned lmao
Same
Does he use fake data or is it just that he doesn’t look at anything but raw sim info and make wrong assumptions based on that?
bro he has to get like alt discord accounts and his friends accounts to scrape the data
explains why his videos felt so dogshit lately
i need to go to sleep, how do i get tired?
idk what he does these days but all of the above
I see I see
Saw a crisp video where he used 2 PTR builds old data for a video to estimate 11.2 comp
Katie Mack says otherwise.
he made some insane claims about some specs he didn't play
and just spouted some absolute nonsense
what did you survive exactly? Prot warrior is sniffing your ear 
spread some misinformation about bugs that weren't bugs
enters on new account
types "!fuu"
leaves
basically everything under the sun
yeah I mean this is like every PTR data scammer looking for rogue numbers
gif too fast
I see, the only thing I noted in a recent video of his was him saying sub and assa sim really low and the other specs that sim low saw some last minute tuning. But again, no idea how legit any of it is I just saw the video is all haha
!fuu
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
I mean that is factual information
Just doesnt mean what you think it means
She ate one of my CD windows in the guess phase, but I got my ??
Sims only matter for your own spec. Can't compare different specs sims
Show talents!
Sims to compare gear against each other within a spec that's it
same shit happens with people are dyno numbers for cars
It was the single target fatebound from wow head, but mind numbing
I hadn't done ? So I got both achieves
Pruning is ??
Is it?
he even got the title
Where let me solo her achievement
That's both achieves
Sus
Ah true
are questionmarks really the best way they could show difficulty
Exclamation points are superior
Ye thats why i was asking
Can u show achievements
?
The recent ones
Lemme log back on brb
How does it look like there


It was kinda cool on zekvir, made it feel hype challenging him
Zekvir was so easy
Ye he was
Took me like 3-5 tries
But ?? As difficulty went hard
IQD my beloved
Kyveza good tho 30-40 or something
Loved having to have a target macro for a trinket
Prob could’ve done less if i ate well but i kinda underestimated the challenge
I haven't even looked at her yet. would i be insane for just slamming ?? right away purely for the achievement spam
still better than puzzlebox/font at least
Dont hate on my puzzlebox
Font can get thrown off an edge tho
Let me solve this rubik cube rq whilst fighting this world ender dude
Yea but its like you are going super sayan charging up
and then spattering everywhere
Ayo
ye nothing more amazing than solving a sudoku and then spattering green shit everywhere
sounds like smth that happens at a retirement home

Can u share list
did it just not give me the let me solo her?
oh wait thats 2p+2p
the real players say "i dont need tier" so they dont have to play fatebound, then do dogwater DPS; get benched for prog, and then play better games instead while they watch their fellow guildies wipe 200x to stix, lockenstock and OAB. each.
google is free
Is that summary?
Maybe it got renamed
yeah that's the summary
Interesting
can i do ?? or is there like an entry level like doing an 11 once
Where is it
Feats of strength?
Or
And where
Cuz gonna check my armory
If its same or not
Not at pc
The FOMO I have right now….
oh it's because I was in a party with someone that was outside questing RIP
??
Aintnoway
Time to go again buddy
U got one more kill to go
a friend gave me some pots and stayed in party
I'm actually a little salty it doesn't count if they aren't in the delve
needa complete an 10delve to unlock it
Let her solo me shows how many days u progged
Same day or 2nd day
So

If u got the kill same day ur a chad
or you somehow died in a delve when she attacked 
yea she can show up in delves
Eitherway
Nice title
Contract killer
Its like the undermine coat
New meta title
Everyone’s gonna use it cuz it means ur in the cool crew 
Cant remember last time I looked at my titles ngl
I did the fight with antialiasing multisampling on
It made it way harder and i didnt know 
No AA literally easy mode 
Isn't the talent momentum of despair missing from the third point in the FoK conditions from Wowhead's guide? "Both Thrown Precision AND Momentum of despair" Or am I missing something?
yes
!wa
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Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
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Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
@balmy condor u trying to fight?????????!?!?!?!?!?
i know they are cooked
no way
yeah
I like the meadery section
im giving u gold if ur right
hi
Cindermead Brewery gang here
super based
#cinderbrew meadery i think
2:36
literally just need to make a cinderbrew quote and put it on a !cinderbrew command
!fuu
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
Clicked on the timestamp and took me like 20-30 seconds to realize the whole segment would just be Whispyr figuring out the name 
!cindermead
@balmy condor I have watched majority of the video you put out, thank you! One question - do you have any idea if it’s worth even playing FB over DS this week? It seems like a lot of the worth comes from having 2/4 set
Are sims working again? Raidbots says 11.2 support is active
they have been, yes
Fb only in raid boss
Do I have to watch the video
it will be
I feel like I do
no
Yes
I will not play assa but I feel like I need to
you already know everything zac
Every part or fake rogue
You convinced me whisp
yes
I'm watching it
Will be better to play in certain raid fights even without 2/4 set?
Good bedtime story
While I didn't care one bit about it
Thats x3 the lenght
And it was a good watch
Zac are we weird for having 4 rogues
bro just dropped the most ironic statement of all time
based
Atrophic poison stacking 
I only play 2 atm
you new to zac events?
Next tier 3
I play 3 atm
I'm tired of playing a real alt
I just want 4 rogues
And to leave me alone
Ima rogue guy
It's too late to change me
why not just play 1 rogue more?
My fate is written
Can't teach an old dog new tricks
one rogue for every target outlaw can hit with BF 
🤣🤣🤣
Everytime I come hejrr

People make target capped jokes
ragebait successful
Ok seli I will let you know
What fights yall planning to play FB on this week?
Outlaw is target capped at 8 now
blade flurry still hits everything in my mind
Tad niche, is there anyway to see what your raider io score was in previous season at specific points in time? Or only at end of season?
sounds like you gotta level some more
Making fun of me 
I'm in liquid now
I mean if it didnt tell u it only hit 5 targets it would basically hit everything if you think about it
only at the end I believe
i looked through the guide and wasnt able to find - on fatebound seeing as the CD is 1:30 for our major dmg, when should we be using shiv in between deathmarks? Since KB is only 45 second cooldown, you'll only have one up for that. Do we do last 8 seconds of that in-between 45 sec KB, and then just hold 2 shivs for the 1:30 dmg?
but you're so gassy
would you have preferred if i said "one rogue for every yard we lost with acro" instead?
From what ive understand fuck hybrid full bleed only
Duuude
(i only have those 2 jokes)
sorry 
I mean you COULD go and manually check dates of your completions and shit and combine it
bro is unhinged td
Same
nah assa is the best
me poking fun just means youre one of us now
for better or for worse
you got it, it's pretty intuitive
bye zac ill miss u
!wa
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Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
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are we thinking sin or sub will be the move on the damage amp bosses? not sure if there's any real data on this yet
@balmy condor one more question if you don’t mind. If all I have is a two minute trinket, is it better to send DM and KB with trinket? Or send it every 1.5 min even without trinket? Or just don’t play FB til you get 1.5 min trinkets?
depends on timing sub has a higher burst tho so im assumin sub for those but 
yea i wasnt sure particularly on loomithar, as the lust/dmg amp will be in execute, which sin has a very very strong execute for
@balmy condor i finished watching the aoe segment. W for improving the sim
i disagree tho i dont think aoe patchwerk is that bad. u can toggle off bloodlust and pot, and its helpful to know what our damage looks like for a first pull in dungeon imo. now i agree its not good basing all ur decisions off a single aoe patchwerk sim, but i like using as one sim in reference to several others to come to a conclusion
isn't that an appropriate use case?
you'd want to farm anything else
or do u still disagree
yes that's is the use case technically, but at that point like dungeonslice already exists to make an amalgam of all the situations and stuff
idk
I think it's fine if you specifically really want to see one pull
like your logic is sound
but you're losing so much context for everything else that you then have to piece back together
that it's such a hard sell
the issue is just no matter what, trying to accurately model anything is going to be insano aids, and you're always dropping something
ok w that makes sense. i just think thats especially relevant for m+ when different pulls have varying levels of difficulty, so leaning in the direction of optimizing damage for one specific pull type doesn't have to be a bad thing
ya for sure
I hate dslice, and I hate patchwerk aoe, and I hate droute
but like if I have to pick one
dslice is the least-fucked
Bro just hate sims
I mean if you know what you’re doing sim wise, it doesn’t really apply, just general advice for people who aren’t advanced at simming things to avoid AoE patchwerk tbh
Crazy work
yeah that's also true
bro hates sims but is the only one keeping assa sims afloat 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥
simming aoe/dungeon stuff is like shoveling shit at a farm
it's necessary but it's so ass
One day
You can spend 5 hours simming every detail for AoE/m+ stuff and then you realize you wasted 4.5 of those hours because only a few variables actually matter 
ok good talk i gotta go need to touch grass before s3
!bis
BiS lists are not helpful towards gearing yourself. In order for BiS items to truly be BiS, all items in the list have to be obtained at that level exactly, or else it doesn't make sense. Missing a socket for example would shift your stats slightly. On top of this, all stats being good on Assassination means there are currently over 500 "BiS" combinations that are within margin of error. You should always compare your gear through top gear or droptimizer instead.
Pre-raid or Pre-season BiS from world content is especially not helpful, and we do not maintain any lists of these types. These are absolute meaningless bait for gear that you will be replacing the moment the season comes out. Use Top Gear/Droptimizer to compare against your character.
Good talk whispyr imma go touch my bed
!restealth
i only sim patchwork plus ten bosses
!whispyr
I can’t wait to beta test the season for Zac tm
Yes thanks
Can't wait to wake up at 6 am Wednesday
To do delves
That's gonna be a mega banger
Cant wait to watch people kill dimensious while i slave away at work
I'm ngl

I will go to sleep so early tomorrow hehe
Earlier you sleep the earlier you get to play !*
Crazy tech
you sim dslice and get a generic thing and you're stuck in one generic overall glob of dungeon
you sim patchwerk aoe and you get a useless puzzle of questionable accuracy that you need to weave back into a tapestry and it sucks cause you have to constantly make sure you're not stepping on a landmine of missing sim support
you sim droute and you run a full on minefield into local extremes and it's impossible to optimize perfectly for because there's endless possibilities and no variance so you're just stuck in a cycle of infinity optimizations
life is hell
Imma sleep at 20h no cap
Just press bf Kekw what a noob I don't get it
sounds sexy
!talents
trying to balance rupture and envenom can be a 3 hour video just on its own
that shit is so cancer

Wake up, call in sick to work, log inn, do 20 keys before raid, do raid, get serious carpel tunnel, skip next day of work because of carpel tunnel, play more wow, profit.
Outlaw sims are ez because our stat scaling is non existent and there really isn’t much talent flexibility 
Ez
I took 7 days off so I can game 2 resets in a row
!build
"get 5 ruptures for scent"
enter bleed build and now rupture cleave is better than an envenom, except on target counts where it's not, and if things die too fast then also not, except if you get the sudden demise damage, which you can't know, or you get energy back from the snipe, which can be better







ASSA MPLUS SO GREAT
Press bf above one target
This guy haha

!build
The horrors of a spec that actually has a good dmg profile and decently well designed 
to be completely honest, I think sudden demise execute added to sims would make everything insano easier
cause the answer to everything is just "yes, bleed"
sudden demise so good man'
are there breakpoints for stats that i should look out for? currently 60% mastery and 38% crit
no
ty
I just rupture things cuz I like doing it 
Look at around 2 hours into whispyrs new video
➡️ 

WHAT A CHANGE
link for the lazy
This is why they made timestamps.
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==Time...
with timestamp
ty my friend
I was suprisingly close
Memorised the entire video
Cuh
do not show up to raid until you have all the timestamps memorized
I remember trying to talk to Whispyr last week and hes like "oh im busy writing guides and making videos" bro didn't tell me he was making a 3.5 hour assassination documentary 

you know what i always say, it's better to be pissed off than to be pissed on
speak for yourself

yea, i do love when i proc a 39m crit on first pack rook in a +12
Tbf Id rather have a hot lady piss on me than be pissed off
whar
y'all don't have a gf that you would dunk your ballsack into a wasp nest for and it shows
whar
Hm
i don't have a girlfriend
What if I just like wasps
whar
My last touch of a woman was 23 years ago (it was my mother)
is this u whisp
you weirdo freak
how would YOU know this
run that back sorry what
Bees are chill. Wasps are assholes.
Just like goths
yes
Wth we are talking in a rogue discord of course we don't have girlfriends...
3.5 hour documentary about your lonely ass is next video
I'm gonna make a docuseries on ravenholdt regulars and why they're bitchless
Lmfao
i'm new here
Are you not considered a regular?
The day i was born
just u wait
A lofty goal. Assuming you'll get one before the whispyr ravenholdt documentary is delusional some might say. I say you're a champ for having dreams buddy, you go get em
lmk so I can get real cute for the documentary
Anyone else watching Whispyr's feature film while resting their laptop on their chest and they surrounded by a bouquet of every Monster Energy Drink and HICHEW flavor? Bout to do the Abremalin ritual here with a setup like this.
He ignored me too
are you summoning a demon
Wait, so did you @split maple
Im not bitchless
yes
if you're bitchless, just become the bitch
new kitten. was offline a lot last week
what talent do i give up on bleed build to play IW?
put on the programmer socks
you don't
I bench 315 im not bitch
ok if my comp wants me to run it
Send me pics daddy
whispyr your thanks to everyone at the start of this video makes me wanna cry 😭
mb I'll never be friendly again
back to toxic
good cry!!
I am wholesome twice a year, that's all you get
Start the next video calling out shitters
Yessss
pog idea
start with quake
Confirmed. Whispyr is sweet to me twice a year and the other times he sends me the most unhinged shit Ive ever seen at 3am
tf do I look like santa clause or what
the naughty and nice list
Yes
... yes
Kinda
I could see mall Santa whispyr
twink santa
We'll use fate on Sentinel, Loom, and Fract. Maybe Dim and Araz. Then cleave for all others except hunters which is counsel, right? I'm terrible at remembering when to switch between builds so trying to get it memorized.
@haughty flicker
yes, pwis give gift
yes
He just like me fr
as far as haste or mastery or crit go are there any percentages i should try to aim for each stat?
you sim
full send reroll to tft
lads, what do we think of this potential upgrade (getting mobo from another site, missing it here)
wait
wrong gpu
fuck
Even at 2% haste?
Sim > everything
do what the robot says
what is that in freedom dollars
Listen to the robit
a lot
I would just get a 9800x3d if a 7800x3d is that expensive
But master crit is your best friend
no way 3hr vid, its christmas
its like 100 bucks more iirc
yah I mean that's worth to me idk

I mean what is "needed"
in performance
bro the cindermead brewery thing is so true
7800 3xd is the highest chipset for am4, pretty beefy cpu
depends but it's like 10-20%ish
oh true he'd need a new mobo
xd
nvm
yea
I play on a samsung smart fridge
cinderbrew meadery*
"sim but also mastery and crit = friend" like you understand how crontradicting that statement is. but anyway i simmed earlier and the robot said i needed more haste but got more haste then then robot said needed more crit all in all the robot knows nothing.
Peasants
yes im getting am5
cindermead brewery
@surreal flare well crit and mastery has highest weight till a dr
also like
the robot knows everything, you're just not gettin it
i miiiiight need new power supply
with 9800x3d
and 5070ti
i was hoping to save 100-200 bucks on that
Cloak = master gem = mastery then see if any need switches for minmax
maybe robot knows best, but in pure ST, do we still go fatebound if we dont have any pieces of tier?
Then haste aftwr those two usually
my psu is 750 watts
like fatebound single target you'll have like 19-20k crit/mast, and then like 10k haste/vers
crit and mast are better than haste/vers undeniably
but you don't avoid haste/vers just because of that
if you have 0 haste
haste will be good
I would go ilvl first
that's how multipliers work
!sims
Simulations:
Bloodmallet: https://bloodmallet.com/index.html
If youre looking for crafted piece

Clip that sweet graph you made on stream the other day @balmy condor
The secondary stat one
Thats the true way to do it
has someone made a spreadsheet yet or am I off to raidbots jail
spreadsheet for what
Bis ?
idk I recall seeing one with a few diff builds last tier or something, maybe im misremembering
Are you saying raid bis vs m+ bis
What should cold blood be macroed to?
!macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.
#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane
Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket
iirc it was like a few diff build types with the sim dps + % difference
Ughhhhh
Unyielding Netherprism sim bait?
Dunno
am I misremembering i really cant remember tbf
netherprism very good, I pushed an optimization to it yesterday
whisp
Does the prism ever cap in any build?
the only difference with 9800 to 7800 would be watt usage
Like the stacks
still mostlt the same threads and cores
like for reference obviously you say "till a dr" so from more geared rogues whats that dr look like ? there are rough percentages always will be what are they
also sure, it has more gigahz speed but thats it
Sims dont matter this raid except on one boss ngl
no, it's not a DR
whispyr are you hiring a nose scratcher? I will do it for free as an intern.
bro I am allergic to SOMETHING
I've also had hella allergies this week itchy eyes and nose 😭
Get ilvl > sim it > new pieces as they come > sim it
you are allergic to secondary stats or stupid questions
think of it like you're building a fence, you have 200m of fence (stats), and you want to make the biggest area (dps) you can
Were not robots we cant tell you breakpoints
if you have like 1m of stat
that's a super skinny fence
and the area will suck
stats do have DRs, but their value changes constantly as you get other stats
so what bosses are we playing fatebound on?
@balmy condor was about to swap over to your plater profile
Is that all updated for mob prios S3 M+ as well
(Diff colors or anything)
Used Quazii’s in the passed but like the trackers on yours
yes, and if you want to edit, there's a timestamp here https://youtu.be/HZXEXxFABJM?t=11964
This is why they made timestamps.
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==Time...
was it the 3 min thing you mentioned on the video?
What trinket do you use together with nether prism?
yes
any of the passive ones
@maiden sierra araz is best
gotcha ty
Dont get prism
@balmy condor are the most recent sims in the sheets the right ones? Means is the assa ds apl the right one?
Ok ty. I’ll probably just give it a go as is then 🫡
Enter a romantic triangle with loot council and get ritual forge
Yellow name
Kira's has me sweating... he's putting that s+ assa for so long 🥲
Ive watched so many assa videos and read so many guides
Yes but your answer is useless as its not what i asked for
I know what trinkets are bis
Your question is useless since raid bots exist
Like what
Get whatever trinket you can and sim the difference
you can see the sim date on the right in the little box, if it's not in the last like 12 hours, it's wrong
Like its me asking
good god finally. Somebody here before said they didn't think ky'veza was possible as assassination.
@balmy condor whats best trinket with claw
Whats best trinket with dn
Wait reminds me i need to get fetters
Might be bis for damage amp bosaes
I can see why your name is yellow 
@balmy condor how is fetters simming for damage profile diff
Might be nice on damage amp bosses
Just lay the entire schlong down

Bro got rage baited and pinged whispyr multiple times cuz of it 
Big schlong
#bigschlong
What counts as big
Long schlong
i am in need to pee
@livid dagger stack as many tuna cans as possible
Can we talk about Fleet Footed?
!guide
Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue
3hours and 30min,..,holy this is longer than the Titanic haha
That video was amazing, thanks Whispyr
So i swap wep and trink of outlaw and its assa ready?
thanks again. Warming up my popcorn now
Will no mastery really work as assa
Should we break s2 4-set and run 2-set/2-set as soon as we can or is it not that big of a deal?
yes
Thank you.
pretty much yes
I mean you'll lose some damage obviously
but will it "work"
yeah
Is it worth doing a gem of each socket color? It takes forever to sim so wanna check before running it
Alrighty
it's about 0.3% over just slamming in a single color
yes need as much speed as possible
speed gem op
x2
gotta prep for the next greedy goblins event
gotta go fast
!macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.
#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane
Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket
@balmy condor what do you think about swapping 1p of vicious venoms+internal bleeding to get to master assassin for FB ST to get some more burst?
sounds pretty cringe but if you need the burst for whatever reason then yeah sure I guess
!fuu
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
oh ok so not rly worth then
it's an overall loss, yes
I don't think there's a situation where the burst would make up for it
with 4pc, vanish is a 3min cd
so that kinda hurts
What build will assa run in raid and m+ while we don’t have new tierset? And when we will be able to use new talents?
the same as when you do
yea forgot vanish gets desync'd cuz of tier
Start of the video (assa is easy) 2 hours in (assa is complicated too many minmaxes) 😆
!wa
Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
!bugs
Rogue Bug tracker: https://github.com/SimCMinMax/WoW-BugTracker/labels/Rogue
why is whysiprs new video so short?
But we will have lower cds on our kb and dm only when we have 4p. Is it still worth to play fb in raid?
While we have only 4p s2
just gamba properly
ez
who needs 2p to get lucky coin when i always get lucky coin anyway
rather blow my shit off smoove than play fb without the new 2p
ima be honest

kyveza ptsd
Why?
because the number is higher
anyone know where best to get s2 gear for tier pieces, for rat alt?
it was already equal/better single target anyway in s2
then they giga buffed coins and shit
But no one played fb in s2 in raids
I mean normal ppl)
yeah because it feels like ass
and the only fight you'd even possibly have played it on was sprocket
without 2p you arent guaranteed to get lucky coin on opener so you might just lowroll and say gg
so dont lowroll
but again, they buffed the tails coin damage by like 17% or something since then
Ok so I believe on all bosses where we have at least 1+ add we will run s2 cleave build DS, and if pure st we play FB.
Even without new tierset
basically, there are some bosses with adds where fb might still be better depending on timings
but that can be figured out as the tier goes on
were garunteed lucky coin anyway right
so the spec itself fixed the entire talent tree
its just a raid buff talent tree now
except only you get the raid buf heheh
Hiya decided to pick up rogue again this season :]. Quick question and apologies if this is common sense, but couldnt find anything about it. Since we macro shiv with thistle tea and it being great to have during KB windows, do we ever play around the auto use below 30 energy on thistle tea during downtime?
np
na whispyr you cooked with this vid thank you

I also remembered what I was on about earlier, it was something a bit like this
Assa DS Raid ST: CMQAA0tw2gAD7pPTLoW5IGZDeMjZmhxM2mBAAAAAgZBWmBAAAAAg22mZGMzYMzMLz2MzMmBDzMzYmNbjZA2mZZswYGzSjZbZYy2wwCA
Assa FB Raid ST: CMQAA0tw2gAD7pPTLoW5IGZDeMjZmhxMYAAAAAAY2glZAAAAAAottZmxMzMGzMzysNzMjZwwMzMmZz2YGADsAzY0Y2AZbAbA
Bleed build: CMQAA0tw2gAD7pPTLoW5IGZDeYmZMzMmBAAAAAAYWmxsMDAAAAAAttNzMYmBzMzysNYMmZmZmZmZYzyYGgNzyADYJYbYCMsMA
Hybrid 2x Vanish: CMQAA0tw2gAD7pPTLoW5IGZDeMzMzMzwMAAAAAAAzyMmtZAAAAAAotlZmBzMYmZWmtxYwMzMzgZmZzyYGgtZWGLMmxs0Y2WGmsNMsMA
No Garrote: CMQAA0tw2gAD7pPTLoW5IGZDeMjZmZmxM2mBAAAAAgZZw2MAAAAAA02yMzgZGMzMLz2MzMYGzYwMzsZZMDwmZZgBsEsMMBGWA ```
But against these it had % differences across the same scenario
That was last tier, or the tier before iirc, not sure if you did it or it was someone else but it was floating around, I was asking earlier if someone had done it again but it doesn't seem like it, it's not even needed I can get the answers I want pretty quickly
Thanks vid is really good and answered a couple questions I had/was thinking about
no joke the video is goated but it will take me about 2 weeks to watch it as i play it while im falling asleep lol
even my GF is a rogue expert at this point
The fighting to watch it even tired
I feel you

do we get a written version of the video?
@balmy condor can you explain to me the combo point colors for 5-6-7? You have 2 conditions with colors on each. Tried to decipher on my own but im missing something lol
with darkstalker buff 5+ consumes one of the charges
below that it doesnt consume it
green = finish
when you have darkest night, you need a max combo point envenom
that is purple
Got it. Does it translate into sub which is (correct me if im wrong) Finisher at 6+ cps?
Love that I am not the only one that uses green as the "go" color on combo points.
dunno
I haven't played sub or outlaw all expac
if it doesn't work for them I can change it
I have no reason to play inferior specs

bro they tuned trinkets again
kms
oh it's just open world
nvm
dont kms
For now 
araz nerfs 
Fair! i do not believe it does. For your old WA (for some reason this one didnt just give an update option) i changed 5 to a color and 6-7 to another color for sub ref. Just wanted to check with you before i mess with point 5 myself
90% of the specs in the game wanting araz + antenna is probably not staying
More vids pls

yeh that's fine
Really appreciate all your work!
my pleasure
Buff pacemaker, nerf antenna to be slightly better than it, araz nerf, signet buff. Those are my wishlists
sike
didnt they just nerf pacemaker
i doubt they rebuff it
then again the antenna situation is pretty cringe so maybe they just revert that and nerf antenna
Pacemaker nerf made no sense idk
at least antenna is second boss
so if you lose the loot council battle royale its not doomed
Zoltyck just starts working at 35% right? Like the damage of existing bleeds goes up?
unlucky 😔
is the lingering darkness buff rolled into darkness night? cant see it on in my buffs or auras?
no
lingering darkness occurs after the expiration of deathmark
that's my uni's
darkest night occurs after consuming 3 stacks of deathstalker's mark
oh gotcha
I have 4 and 3/4 hours to play tomorrow and my raid is the day after that
haha im a moron, ty @shy creek







