#assassination

1 messages · Page 2150 of 1

gritty laurel
#

nice try

zenith elm
#

Hahahaha

sinful fable
#

Is it possible to shadowmeld+stealth in a bossfight in m+? or only on trash?

vale shore
#

you guys actually play WORLD OF Warcraft? I still play rogue in Warcraft: Orcs and Humans!

maiden sierra
#

i hate my life

zenith elm
#

Like myself

#

Trash*

raw marlin
#

on another note is OSRS a good game to have inbetween pulls in raid as my guild takes 5 hours between boss?

maiden sierra
#

where is uber, there has not been a shitpost in a while, is he well???

proven willow
half moss
#

This is poopy

raw marlin
slim hamlet
#

Please tell me this is fake news (I havent actually listened to the video yet)

proven willow
slim hamlet
#

🙏 I aint playing bleed

raw marlin
#

YOU WHAT MATE

#

YOU FUCKING PLAY BLEED

zenith elm
#

Bleed is life

raw marlin
#

OR ILL KICK YOU IN THEBALLS

#

YOU GOT IT MR

#

ONE TRICK

slim hamlet
#

I play bleed for low keys sure

half moss
zenith elm
#

Kingsbane is peepee poopoo

gritty laurel
#

before we judge: how high you pushing one trick?

raw marlin
distant fog
#

I think assa being ignored is the best thing for the species

maiden sierra
raw marlin
distant fog
#

No buffs no nerfs

zenith elm
raw marlin
slim hamlet
gritty laurel
slim hamlet
#

Pug gamer

gritty laurel
#

oh yeah, if you aren't pushing then bleed is just better

slim hamlet
slim hamlet
woven trout
#

!gear

marsh fjord
nimble tartan
#

im just so surprised people push keys..

maiden sierra
nimble tartan
#

like the game is not that good fr outside of raids 🤭

zenith elm
raw marlin
slim hamlet
#

even if it sucks ass now

maiden sierra
#

real

#

i miss kingsbane in m+

zenith elm
#

I like having my fun not covered in ass

slim hamlet
#

Makes it better imo

humble verge
#

boomie buffs

#

AND feral?

zenith elm
#

Niiiice

slim hamlet
#

Feral not forgotten

#

Insane

zenith elm
#

Uber rambling nice

zenith elm
#

I missed you buddy

#

Gonna be sleepy sleepy, good night everyone

zenith elm
#

How i'm gonna sleep while not being a FDK main

slim hamlet
#

xdx jokes on u when they turn out to be 4 stacked in rwf still

proven willow
#

obv we push keys

#

get carried by 4 people or get carried by 19

#

one is clearly better

humble verge
#

yeah, 4 players

proven willow
humble verge
#

then u only have 4 people complaining instead of 19? hello????

#

quik maffs

proven willow
#

19 people wont complain

maiden sierra
#

you guys get carried?

humble verge
#

no

slim hamlet
#

Assa rogue mains arent we?

proven willow
#

if you arent top 50 world you can clear anything with 19 people. quote me

humble verge
#

i did like 200 delve resets today it felt like

#

trying to get enough of those heroic piece boss things

proven willow
#

wait u actually think its not true

#

after hitting 2nd nerf territory

floral thorn
#

Poison bomb covering kyveza lines was annoying but shes dead 😄

proven willow
#

crazy cope work

slim hamlet
#

At least it's not outlaw

#

Right?

humble verge
restive falcon
#

so for simming, should i always just sim fatebound st, or deathstalker st, just cause idk how many bosses we will be fatebound on to get more realistic sim

primal jolt
#

OK SO they have been working on hunter recently that means rogue is next for changes, yes?

maiden sierra
primal jolt
slim hamlet
#

spriest needs another rework first

flint tusk
primal jolt
#

ye ye ofc

slim hamlet
#

yo what

humble verge
slim hamlet
#

the assa movie actually has hidden minecraft part

humble verge
#

whisps assa movie?

slim hamlet
#

Ye

#

thought it was meme

humble verge
#

whisp when he decides to use all his intelligence

marble hemlock
#

DM flips coin that counts as both heads and tails, tails coins big damage, shiv boosts big damage even more (cosmic damage counts as nature, holy, and arcane). good damage.

tier set makes it 2 coin flips instead. double good = even more good.

distant fog
#

Outlaw rogue to keep uptime

gilded stump
#

Hello hello, quick question. When we are in a large pack, say 10+ targets. Do we generally just rupture twice to get this on 6 targets? Then go?
Or is there any point in trying to get some extra ruptures and garroted in on the additional mobs?
If not, then at how many target count is it worth applying additional rupture/garrote to the rest of the target packs?

flint tusk
#

Sus who did it

#

you shall be put before the council

nimble tartan
#

guys did any sin rogues kill ?? kyveza

slim hamlet
nimble tartan
#

or is that just an outlaw ting

balmy condor
#

plenty, yes

flint tusk
nimble tartan
#

ok ty i will try tonight

haughty flicker
#

ye any spec can survive kyveza fine

winged sun
#

Each spec has its own difficulty within the fight

nimble tartan
#

i see

#

whats the hot tip for son

#

sin

flint tusk
#

don't die

#

😄

nimble tartan
#

i never even tried it ima learn tonight

ocean quiver
#

For the visions, which 5 masks are the easiest would you guys say for assa?

#

or in general

haughty flicker
#

And you'll be fine

#

And make sure to be using elusiveness instead of cheat death

humble verge
haughty flicker
#

Which I feel should be self evident but apparently a lot of people just weren't using it

marsh fjord
#

because i wasnt really thinking about ngl 😄

#

really dumb

nimble tartan
#

what da hell is a bran pot

marsh fjord
#

He throws pots on the ground

#

that you walk over to heal you

nimble tartan
#

ohhh

tranquil cobalt
#

am i seeing this right. no kingsbane for the m plus build?

fallow canopy
#

I think it was more intuitive if you did kyveza on s1

marsh fjord
marsh fjord
nimble tartan
#

what skills to use on bran

fallow canopy
#

Yea makes sense

tranquil cobalt
#

yikes lol

#

not sure i love it. guess we will see

slim hamlet
#

Just play hybrid

#

Take a bit dmg loss for more fun gaming thumbsup

fallow canopy
haughty flicker
#

They all kinda suck

subtle tundra
#

good tuning 🫡

slim hamlet
haughty flicker
# nimble tartan ohhh

The pots have both an instant heal and a hot so don't be afraid to walk over them early like when portals are starting

maiden sierra
#

||@balmy condor that baya at the end of the 3 hour video make me tear up||

haughty flicker
#

Wtf no spoilers

#

I haven't finished yet

fallow canopy
#

Did you get jumpscared by "the hot envenom loads"?

maiden sierra
nimble tartan
#

i will one shot it now with this advice

haughty flicker
maiden sierra
#

||garf_sit ||

rain mortar
#

Maybe I’m. Crazy, but a little surprised we didn’t see a little single target bump in this last tuning. At least based on sim damage

maiden sierra
slim hamlet
#

Sim damage is fake

fallow canopy
balmy condor
#

our single target bump is gonna come when the bug gets fixed

haughty flicker
#

Surely

maiden sierra
#

next expansion

slim hamlet
#

Daily reminder that our sim was lowest of all dps when we were op in 10.2 alarm

flint tusk
#

people currently have their nose out of joint over this.

rain mortar
#

Yeah I certainly listen to the izen videos too much, but I’m hoping it is fake anyway and doesn’t matter

flint tusk
#

LoU perfect thing to use for next tier YUP

slim hamlet
slim hamlet
flint tusk
#

exactly but OMG THEY SAID IT WAS ONLY C TIER

balmy condor
#

izen garf

flint tusk
#

but what happened to this being S tier

#

dies

marble hemlock
slim hamlet
#

I used to watch Izen but then I learned the game

placid wave
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
balmy condor
#

haven't heard that name in years

rain mortar
#

I mean it’s just the pure sim’s right? I realize that may end up being silly

balmy condor
#

is he banned from every class discord now or is he still alive somewhere

slim hamlet
fallow canopy
flint tusk
balmy condor
#

true

slim hamlet
#

I didnt know you could get banned from DH disc

jaunty sky
#

I wish i had a ranged spec to get upset about as well tbh

balmy condor
#

need to spread a lot of misinformation to get banned from that many discords

maiden sierra
#

wait i didint know bro was banned lmao

slim hamlet
#

Same

rain mortar
# balmy condor true

Does he use fake data or is it just that he doesn’t look at anything but raw sim info and make wrong assumptions based on that?

balmy condor
#

bro he has to get like alt discord accounts and his friends accounts to scrape the data

maiden sierra
#

explains why his videos felt so dogshit lately

balmy condor
#

cause he can't access literally anything on his own anymore

marble hemlock
#

i need to go to sleep, how do i get tired?

balmy condor
rain mortar
#

I see I see

slim hamlet
#

Saw a crisp video where he used 2 PTR builds old data for a video to estimate 11.2 comp

balmy condor
#

he made some insane claims about some specs he didn't play

#

and just spouted some absolute nonsense

proper cosmos
#

what did you survive exactly? Prot warrior is sniffing your ear kekdog

balmy condor
#

spread some misinformation about bugs that weren't bugs

maiden sierra
balmy condor
#

basically everything under the sun

balmy condor
slim hamlet
#

gif too fast

rain mortar
#

I see, the only thing I noted in a recent video of his was him saying sub and assa sim really low and the other specs that sim low saw some last minute tuning. But again, no idea how legit any of it is I just saw the video is all haha

flint tusk
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
slim hamlet
#

Just doesnt mean what you think it means

brisk ore
#

She ate one of my CD windows in the guess phase, but I got my ??

slim hamlet
#

Sims only matter for your own spec. Can't compare different specs sims

flint tusk
#

Sims to compare gear against each other within a spec that's it

#

same shit happens with people are dyno numbers for cars

winged sun
#

Wait

#

Thats ?

#

Not ??

brisk ore
#

I hadn't done ? So I got both achieves

flint tusk
#

Pruning is ??

winged sun
#

Is it?

normal mist
#

he even got the title

haughty flicker
#

Where let me solo her achievement

brisk ore
#

That's both achieves

haughty flicker
#

Sus

winged sun
#

Ah true

slim hamlet
#

are questionmarks really the best way they could show difficulty

brisk ore
#

Exclamation points are superior

winged sun
#

Can u show achievements

#

?

#

The recent ones

brisk ore
#

Lemme log back on brb

winged sun
#

How does it look like there

slim hamlet
haughty flicker
winged sun
#

Zekvir was so easy

haughty flicker
#

Ye he was

winged sun
#

Took me like 3-5 tries

haughty flicker
#

But ?? As difficulty went hard

slim hamlet
winged sun
#

Kyveza good tho 30-40 or something

slim hamlet
#

Loved having to have a target macro for a trinket

winged sun
#

Prob could’ve done less if i ate well but i kinda underestimated the challenge

flint tusk
#

I haven't even looked at her yet. would i be insane for just slamming ?? right away purely for the achievement spam

marble hemlock
#

still better than puzzlebox/font at least

fallow canopy
slim hamlet
#

Yea but its like you are going super sayan charging up

#

and then spattering everywhere

fallow canopy
#

Ayo

marble hemlock
#

ye nothing more amazing than solving a sudoku and then spattering green shit everywhere

#

sounds like smth that happens at a retirement home

slim hamlet
nimble tartan
#

we are so up guys

slim hamlet
#

HOLY destro

#

Wait and thats even with KB bug in sims?

winged sun
brisk ore
slim hamlet
#

oh wait thats 2p+2p

nimble tartan
#

i only break some rules

marble hemlock
#

the real players say "i dont need tier" so they dont have to play fatebound, then do dogwater DPS; get benched for prog, and then play better games instead while they watch their fellow guildies wipe 200x to stix, lockenstock and OAB. each.

slim hamlet
#

google is free

winged sun
#

Maybe it got renamed

brisk ore
#

yeah that's the summary

winged sun
#

Interesting

nimble tartan
#

can i do ?? or is there like an entry level like doing an 11 once

winged sun
#

Where is it

#

Feats of strength?

#

Or

#

And where

#

Cuz gonna check my armory

#

If its same or not

#

Not at pc

rain mortar
winged sun
#

U cheated

brisk ore
winged sun
#

U did it in a group

winged sun
#

Aintnoway

#

Time to go again buddy

#

U got one more kill to go

slim hamlet
#

blizzard fortnite danced on u buddy

#

gl next time

brisk ore
#

a friend gave me some pots and stayed in party

winged sun
#

💀 its not me whos gonna give u rhe achievement as an excuse cyh

#

Cuh

#

Go again tmrw

brisk ore
#

I'm actually a little salty it doesn't count if they aren't in the delve

sonic zinc
winged sun
#

Let her solo me shows how many days u progged

#

Same day or 2nd day

#

So

#

If u got the kill same day ur a chad

flint tusk
#

or you somehow died in a delve when she attacked lul

winged sun
#

I guess, does she do that?

#

No idea

sonic zinc
#

yea she can show up in delves

winged sun
#

Eitherway

#

Nice title

#

Contract killer

#

Its like the undermine coat

#

New meta title

#

Everyone’s gonna use it cuz it means ur in the cool crew ez

slim hamlet
#

Cant remember last time I looked at my titles ngl

winged sun
#

I did the fight with antialiasing multisampling on

#

It made it way harder and i didnt know xdd

#

No AA literally easy mode ICANT

charred stump
#

Isn't the talent momentum of despair missing from the third point in the FoK conditions from Wowhead's guide? "Both Thrown Precision AND Momentum of despair" Or am I missing something?

balmy condor
#

yes

indigo epoch
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
elfin flame
#

@balmy condor u trying to fight?????????!?!?!?!?!?

elfin flame
#

w video by the way i rly like

#

listen i just wish aoe patchwerk sims worked

balmy condor
#

I skipped over a lot of shit I feel like

elfin flame
#

i know they are cooked

balmy condor
#

aoe patchwerk sims do work

#

I fixed them for you pookiebear

#

mostly

elfin flame
#

no way

balmy condor
#

yeah

nova kelp
#

I like the meadery section

balmy condor
#

that was the whole part of that video

elfin flame
#

im giving u gold if ur right

subtle tundra
elfin flame
#

oh freak towards end?

#

i havent got there yet

balmy condor
#

there's a timestamp idk

#

hold on

tranquil lynx
balmy condor
elfin flame
#

#cinderbrew meadery i think

balmy condor
nova kelp
#

literally just need to make a cinderbrew quote and put it on a !cinderbrew command

subtle tundra
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
slim hamlet
elfin flame
#

!cindermead

tranquil lynx
dense cove
#

@balmy condor I have watched majority of the video you put out, thank you! One question - do you have any idea if it’s worth even playing FB over DS this week? It seems like a lot of the worth comes from having 2/4 set

exotic hearth
#

Are sims working again? Raidbots says 11.2 support is active

balmy condor
midnight mist
#

Do I have to watch the video

midnight mist
#

I feel like I do

balmy condor
slim hamlet
#

Yes

midnight mist
#

I will not play assa but I feel like I need to

balmy condor
#

you already know everything zac

slim hamlet
#

Every part or fake rogue

midnight mist
#

You convinced me whisp

elfin flame
midnight mist
#

I'm watching it

elfin flame
#

its a good watch

#

as a rogue nerd

midnight mist
#

Ye I know

#

I always like these videos

nova kelp
midnight mist
#

As a nerd

#

I watched the other long one

dense cove
slim hamlet
#

Good bedtime story

midnight mist
#

While I didn't care one bit about it

tranquil lynx
midnight mist
#

And it was a good watch

midnight mist
#

My boss ain't here

tranquil lynx
#

Zac are we weird for having 4 rogues

elfin flame
#

based

slim hamlet
midnight mist
nova kelp
#

you new to zac events?

midnight mist
#

Next tier 3

tranquil lynx
#

I play 3 atm

midnight mist
#

I'm tired of playing a real alt

#

I just want 4 rogues

#

And to leave me alone

#

Ima rogue guy

#

It's too late to change me

nova kelp
#

why not just play 1 rogue more?

midnight mist
#

My fate is written

slim hamlet
#

Can't teach an old dog new tricks

marble hemlock
#

one rogue for every target outlaw can hit with BF based

midnight mist
#

Stfu

#

Yo

tranquil lynx
#

🤣🤣🤣

midnight mist
#

Everytime I come hejrr

marble hemlock
midnight mist
#

People make target capped jokes

balmy condor
#

ragebait successful

midnight mist
#

Ok seli I will let you know

dense cove
#

What fights yall planning to play FB on this week?

midnight mist
#

Outlaw is target capped at 8 now

nova kelp
#

blade flurry still hits everything in my mind

midnight mist
#

So this doesn't even work anymore

#

Amateur

manic haven
#

Tad niche, is there anyway to see what your raider io score was in previous season at specific points in time? Or only at end of season?

marble hemlock
obtuse valley
#

Making fun of me Aggy

midnight mist
#

Ye

#

8 rogues

midnight mist
#

I'm in liquid now

slim hamlet
spare carbon
#

i looked through the guide and wasnt able to find - on fatebound seeing as the CD is 1:30 for our major dmg, when should we be using shiv in between deathmarks? Since KB is only 45 second cooldown, you'll only have one up for that. Do we do last 8 seconds of that in-between 45 sec KB, and then just hold 2 shivs for the 1:30 dmg?

keen spruce
marble hemlock
#

would you have preferred if i said "one rogue for every yard we lost with acro" instead?

tranquil lynx
marble hemlock
#

(i only have those 2 jokes)

midnight mist
#

Ok I'm out of here

#

This isn't fun

#

I hate this channel

marble hemlock
#

sorry sad

slim hamlet
obtuse valley
#

HOLY bro is unhinged td

slim hamlet
marble hemlock
#

nah assa is the best

#

me poking fun just means youre one of us now

#

for better or for worse

balmy condor
elfin flame
midnight mist
#

See you in outlaw channel when it's finally good next expac shindig

#

Bb

digital venture
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
spare carbon
#

are we thinking sin or sub will be the move on the damage amp bosses? not sure if there's any real data on this yet

dense cove
#

@balmy condor one more question if you don’t mind. If all I have is a two minute trinket, is it better to send DM and KB with trinket? Or send it every 1.5 min even without trinket? Or just don’t play FB til you get 1.5 min trinkets?

nimble tartan
spare carbon
elfin flame
#

@balmy condor i finished watching the aoe segment. W for improving the sim

i disagree tho i dont think aoe patchwerk is that bad. u can toggle off bloodlust and pot, and its helpful to know what our damage looks like for a first pull in dungeon imo. now i agree its not good basing all ur decisions off a single aoe patchwerk sim, but i like using as one sim in reference to several others to come to a conclusion

#

isn't that an appropriate use case?

balmy condor
elfin flame
#

or do u still disagree

balmy condor
#

idk

#

I think it's fine if you specifically really want to see one pull

#

like your logic is sound

#

but you're losing so much context for everything else that you then have to piece back together

#

that it's such a hard sell

#

the issue is just no matter what, trying to accurately model anything is going to be insano aids, and you're always dropping something

elfin flame
#

ok w that makes sense. i just think thats especially relevant for m+ when different pulls have varying levels of difficulty, so leaning in the direction of optimizing damage for one specific pull type doesn't have to be a bad thing

#

ya for sure

balmy condor
#

I hate dslice, and I hate patchwerk aoe, and I hate droute

#

but like if I have to pick one

#

dslice is the least-fucked

midnight mist
#

Bro just hate sims

obtuse valley
#

I mean if you know what you’re doing sim wise, it doesn’t really apply, just general advice for people who aren’t advanced at simming things to avoid AoE patchwerk tbh

midnight mist
#

Crazy work

elfin flame
#

bro hates sims but is the only one keeping assa sims afloat 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥

balmy condor
#

simming aoe/dungeon stuff is like shoveling shit at a farm

#

it's necessary but it's so ass

midnight mist
#

One day

obtuse valley
#

You can spend 5 hours simming every detail for AoE/m+ stuff and then you realize you wasted 4.5 of those hours because only a few variables actually matter garf

elfin flame
#

ok good talk i gotta go need to touch grass before s3

quaint dragon
#

!bis

prisma monolithBOT
#

BiS lists are not helpful towards gearing yourself. In order for BiS items to truly be BiS, all items in the list have to be obtained at that level exactly, or else it doesn't make sense. Missing a socket for example would shift your stats slightly. On top of this, all stats being good on Assassination means there are currently over 500 "BiS" combinations that are within margin of error. You should always compare your gear through top gear or droptimizer instead.

Pre-raid or Pre-season BiS from world content is especially not helpful, and we do not maintain any lists of these types. These are absolute meaningless bait for gear that you will be replacing the moment the season comes out. Use Top Gear/Droptimizer to compare against your character.

midnight mist
#

Good talk whispyr imma go touch my bed

sonic zinc
#

!restealth

frosty lake
#

i only sim patchwork plus ten bosses

midnight mist
#

!whispyr

obtuse valley
#

I can’t wait to beta test the season for Zac tm

midnight mist
#

Yes thanks

#

Can't wait to wake up at 6 am Wednesday

#

To do delves

#

That's gonna be a mega banger

maiden sierra
#

Cant wait to watch people kill dimensious while i slave away at work

midnight mist
#

I'm ngl

haughty flicker
midnight mist
#

I will go to sleep so early tomorrow hehe

#

Earlier you sleep the earlier you get to play !*

#

Crazy tech

balmy condor
#

you sim dslice and get a generic thing and you're stuck in one generic overall glob of dungeon

you sim patchwerk aoe and you get a useless puzzle of questionable accuracy that you need to weave back into a tapestry and it sucks cause you have to constantly make sure you're not stepping on a landmine of missing sim support

you sim droute and you run a full on minefield into local extremes and it's impossible to optimize perfectly for because there's endless possibilities and no variance so you're just stuck in a cycle of infinity optimizations

#

life is hell

midnight mist
#

Imma sleep at 20h no cap

midnight mist
vital hound
#

!talents

balmy condor
#

trying to balance rupture and envenom can be a 3 hour video just on its own

#

that shit is so cancer

midnight mist
maiden sierra
# midnight mist Imma sleep at 20h no cap

Wake up, call in sick to work, log inn, do 20 keys before raid, do raid, get serious carpel tunnel, skip next day of work because of carpel tunnel, play more wow, profit.

obtuse valley
#

Outlaw sims are ez because our stat scaling is non existent and there really isn’t much talent flexibility pepe_chad

#

Ez

sonic zinc
#

!stealth

#

wheres my restealth

midnight mist
vital hound
#

!build

balmy condor
#

"get 5 ruptures for scent"

enter bleed build and now rupture cleave is better than an envenom, except on target counts where it's not, and if things die too fast then also not, except if you get the sudden demise damage, which you can't know, or you get energy back from the snipe, which can be better

#

ASSA MPLUS SO GREAT

midnight mist
#

This guy haha

haughty flicker
midnight mist
#

Just simplify the apl a bit cuh

quaint dragon
#

!build

obtuse valley
#

The horrors of a spec that actually has a good dmg profile and decently well designed garf_sit

balmy condor
#

to be completely honest, I think sudden demise execute added to sims would make everything insano easier

#

cause the answer to everything is just "yes, bleed"

#

sudden demise so good man'

next cape
#

are there breakpoints for stats that i should look out for? currently 60% mastery and 38% crit

next cape
#

ty

obtuse valley
#

I just rupture things cuz I like doing it suskaygeagreegebusiness

maiden sierra
next cape
#

link for the lazy

next cape
#

ty my friend

maiden sierra
#

Memorised the entire video

#

Cuh

balmy condor
split maple
#

I remember trying to talk to Whispyr last week and hes like "oh im busy writing guides and making videos" bro didn't tell me he was making a 3.5 hour assassination documentary kek

haughty flicker
next cape
#

you know what i always say, it's better to be pissed off than to be pissed on

balmy condor
#

speak for yourself

split maple
humble verge
maiden sierra
#

Tbf Id rather have a hot lady piss on me than be pissed off

balmy condor
#

y'all don't have a gf that you would dunk your ballsack into a wasp nest for and it shows

humble verge
#

whar

haughty flicker
#

Hm

balmy condor
#

point made

#

it's okay, uberscot's single too

haughty flicker
#

What if I just like wasps

potent turret
maiden sierra
humble verge
#

is this u whisp

balmy condor
next cape
#

wasps were literally created to fuck you up

#

and nothing else

humble verge
balmy condor
split maple
#

Bees are chill. Wasps are assholes.

haughty flicker
balmy condor
toxic rose
#

Wth we are talking in a rogue discord of course we don't have girlfriends...

balmy condor
balmy condor
#

I'm gonna make a docuseries on ravenholdt regulars and why they're bitchless

haughty flicker
#

Lmfao

next cape
#

i'm new here

humble verge
#

im gonna

#

get a thicc

toxic rose
humble verge
#

goth dommymommy

#

before that

balmy condor
humble verge
maiden sierra
humble verge
split maple
# humble verge goth dommymommy

A lofty goal. Assuming you'll get one before the whispyr ravenholdt documentary is delusional some might say. I say you're a champ for having dreams buddy, you go get em

tight ginkgo
#

Anyone else watching Whispyr's feature film while resting their laptop on their chest and they surrounded by a bouquet of every Monster Energy Drink and HICHEW flavor? Bout to do the Abremalin ritual here with a setup like this.

next cape
thorn lynx
#

Wait, so did you @split maple

distant fog
#

Im not bitchless

tight ginkgo
balmy condor
#

if you're bitchless, just become the bitch

split maple
indigo epoch
#

what talent do i give up on bleed build to play IW?

balmy condor
#

put on the programmer socks

balmy condor
distant fog
#

I bench 315 im not bitch

indigo epoch
#

ok if my comp wants me to run it

balmy condor
#

(probably master assassin or lightweight shiv)

#

(and then you're really sad)

thorn lynx
tight ginkgo
#

whispyr your thanks to everyone at the start of this video makes me wanna cry 😭

normal mist
#

me too

#

didnt mention me

#

the sexiest one

balmy condor
#

back to toxic

tight ginkgo
#

good cry!!

humble verge
balmy condor
#

I am wholesome twice a year, that's all you get

haughty flicker
#

Start the next video calling out shitters

tight ginkgo
normal mist
split maple
#

Confirmed. Whispyr is sweet to me twice a year and the other times he sends me the most unhinged shit Ive ever seen at 3am

balmy condor
#

the naughty and nice list

haughty flicker
#

Yes

normal mist
#

... yes

haughty flicker
#

Kinda

haughty flicker
#

I could see mall Santa whispyr

tight ginkgo
#

twink santa

next cape
exotic hearth
#

We'll use fate on Sentinel, Loom, and Fract. Maybe Dim and Araz. Then cleave for all others except hunters which is counsel, right? I'm terrible at remembering when to switch between builds so trying to get it memorized.

humble verge
haughty flicker
#

He just like me fr

waxen oyster
#

just fullsend deathstalker first week

surreal flare
#

as far as haste or mastery or crit go are there any percentages i should try to aim for each stat?

balmy condor
#

you sim

next cape
#

full send reroll to tft

balmy condor
#

ilvl > everything

normal mist
#

wait

#

i got a good answer

humble verge
#

lads, what do we think of this potential upgrade (getting mobo from another site, missing it here)

#

wait

#

wrong gpu

#

fuck

thorn lynx
normal mist
#

yes

#

sim

distant fog
#

Sim > everything

normal mist
#

do what the robot says

next cape
#

what is that in freedom dollars

distant fog
#

Listen to the robit

humble verge
balmy condor
distant fog
#

But master crit is your best friend

sturdy python
#

no way 3hr vid, its christmas

humble verge
balmy condor
#

yah I mean that's worth to me idk

sturdy python
humble verge
#

i was told it wasnt that needed

#

also

#

whats the difference thi

balmy condor
#

I mean what is "needed"

humble verge
#

in performance

random fossil
#

bro the cindermead brewery thing is so true

royal cloak
#

7800 3xd is the highest chipset for am4, pretty beefy cpu

balmy condor
#

oh true he'd need a new mobo

#

xd

#

nvm

royal cloak
#

yea

distant fog
#

I play on a samsung smart fridge

balmy condor
surreal flare
#

"sim but also mastery and crit = friend" like you understand how crontradicting that statement is. but anyway i simmed earlier and the robot said i needed more haste but got more haste then then robot said needed more crit all in all the robot knows nothing.

distant fog
#

Peasants

humble verge
random fossil
distant fog
#

@surreal flare well crit and mastery has highest weight till a dr

humble verge
#

also like

distant fog
#

So stack those then sim for reat

#

Rest

balmy condor
humble verge
#

i miiiiight need new power supply

#

with 9800x3d

#

and 5070ti

#

i was hoping to save 100-200 bucks on that

distant fog
#

Cloak = master gem = mastery then see if any need switches for minmax

rotund maple
#

maybe robot knows best, but in pure ST, do we still go fatebound if we dont have any pieces of tier?

distant fog
#

Then haste aftwr those two usually

humble verge
#

my psu is 750 watts

balmy condor
#

like fatebound single target you'll have like 19-20k crit/mast, and then like 10k haste/vers

humble verge
balmy condor
#

crit and mast are better than haste/vers undeniably

#

but you don't avoid haste/vers just because of that

#

if you have 0 haste

#

haste will be good

distant fog
#

I would go ilvl first

balmy condor
#

that's how multipliers work

distant fog
#

Always

#

Then just sim new pieces as they come in

sturdy python
#

!sims

prisma monolithBOT
distant fog
#

If youre looking for crafted piece

sturdy python
thorn lynx
#

Clip that sweet graph you made on stream the other day @balmy condor

distant fog
#

Go crit mastery on crafted pieces till max ilvl

#

Then change based on what you got

thorn lynx
#

The secondary stat one

distant fog
#

Thats the true way to do it

sturdy python
#

has someone made a spreadsheet yet or am I off to raidbots jail

balmy condor
#

spreadsheet for what

distant fog
#

Bis ?

sturdy python
#

idk I recall seeing one with a few diff builds last tier or something, maybe im misremembering

distant fog
#

Are you saying raid bis vs m+ bis

exotic hearth
#

What should cold blood be macroed to?

balmy condor
#

!macro

prisma monolithBOT
#

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

sturdy python
#

iirc it was like a few diff build types with the sim dps + % difference

distant fog
#

Ughhhhh

rotund maple
#

Unyielding Netherprism sim bait?

distant fog
#

Dunno

sturdy python
#

am I misremembering i really cant remember tbf

balmy condor
humble verge
#

whisp

thorn lynx
#

Does the prism ever cap in any build?

humble verge
#

the only difference with 9800 to 7800 would be watt usage

thorn lynx
#

Like the stacks

humble verge
#

still mostlt the same threads and cores

distant fog
#

Does it matter

#

Get araz fetters

#

And destroy the meters

surreal flare
#

like for reference obviously you say "till a dr" so from more geared rogues whats that dr look like ? there are rough percentages always will be what are they

humble verge
#

also sure, it has more gigahz speed but thats it

distant fog
#

Sims dont matter this raid except on one boss ngl

tight ginkgo
#

whispyr are you hiring a nose scratcher? I will do it for free as an intern.

balmy condor
distant fog
#

@surreal flare theres nothing to be said

#

Sim it

tight ginkgo
#

I've also had hella allergies this week itchy eyes and nose 😭

distant fog
#

Get ilvl > sim it > new pieces as they come > sim it

unreal kayak
balmy condor
distant fog
#

Were not robots we cant tell you breakpoints

balmy condor
#

if you have like 1m of stat

#

that's a super skinny fence

#

and the area will suck

#

stats do have DRs, but their value changes constantly as you get other stats

frozen glacier
#

so what bosses are we playing fatebound on?

livid dagger
#

@balmy condor was about to swap over to your plater profile

Is that all updated for mob prios S3 M+ as well
(Diff colors or anything)

Used Quazii’s in the passed but like the trackers on yours

distant fog
#

@frozen glacier tetris

#

For sure

#

And spider

#

For sure

fallow canopy
maiden sierra
balmy condor
distant fog
#

@maiden sierra araz is best

fallow canopy
#

gotcha ty

distant fog
#

Dont get prism

serene mason
#

@balmy condor are the most recent sims in the sheets the right ones? Means is the assa ds apl the right one?

livid dagger
distant fog
#

Enter a romantic triangle with loot council and get ritual forge

maiden sierra
distant fog
#

This yellow name reads guides

#

Cant say that for most of pink names

delicate trench
#

Kira's has me sweating... he's putting that s+ assa for so long 🥲

distant fog
#

Ive watched so many assa videos and read so many guides

maiden sierra
#

Yes but your answer is useless as its not what i asked for

#

I know what trinkets are bis

distant fog
#

Your question is useless since raid bots exist

#

Like what

#

Get whatever trinket you can and sim the difference

balmy condor
distant fog
#

Like its me asking

bronze horizon
#

good god finally. Somebody here before said they didn't think ky'veza was possible as assassination.

distant fog
#

@balmy condor whats best trinket with claw

#

Whats best trinket with dn

#

Wait reminds me i need to get fetters

#

Might be bis for damage amp bosaes

maiden sierra
#

I can see why your name is yellow garf

distant fog
#

@balmy condor how is fetters simming for damage profile diff

#

Might be nice on damage amp bosses

#

Just lay the entire schlong down

balmy condor
maiden sierra
#

Bro got rage baited and pinged whispyr multiple times cuz of it OMEGAKEKW

distant fog
#

Big schlong

gleaming geyser
#

#bigschlong

livid dagger
distant fog
#

Long schlong

humble verge
#

i am in need to pee

distant fog
#

@livid dagger stack as many tuna cans as possible

thorn lynx
#

Can we talk about Fleet Footed?

distant fog
#

No

#

It is time to forge fetters every boss HYAAAAAA

frozen glacier
#

garf the bunnies away

frosty obsidian
#

!guide

thorny rain
balmy condor
#

true

#

(use the timestamps)

dreamy canyon
#

That video was amazing, thanks Whispyr

tranquil lynx
thorny rain
tranquil lynx
#

Will no mastery really work as assa

flat ravine
#

Should we break s2 4-set and run 2-set/2-set as soon as we can or is it not that big of a deal?

flat ravine
#

Thank you.

balmy condor
balmy condor
#

but will it "work"

#

yeah

exotic hearth
#

Is it worth doing a gem of each socket color? It takes forever to sim so wanna check before running it

tranquil lynx
#

Alrighty

balmy condor
haughty flicker
#

speed gem op

fallow canopy
acoustic roost
#

gotta prep for the next greedy goblins event

fallow canopy
#

gotta go fast

left pine
#

!macro

prisma monolithBOT
#

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

obtuse valley
#

@balmy condor what do you think about swapping 1p of vicious venoms+internal bleeding to get to master assassin for FB ST to get some more burst?

balmy condor
#

sounds pretty cringe but if you need the burst for whatever reason then yeah sure I guess

fathom minnow
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
obtuse valley
#

oh ok so not rly worth then

balmy condor
#

it's an overall loss, yes

#

I don't think there's a situation where the burst would make up for it

#

with 4pc, vanish is a 3min cd

#

so that kinda hurts

fathom minnow
#

What build will assa run in raid and m+ while we don’t have new tierset? And when we will be able to use new talents?

balmy condor
#

the same as when you do

obtuse valley
#

yea forgot vanish gets desync'd cuz of tier

tranquil lynx
#

Start of the video (assa is easy) 2 hours in (assa is complicated too many minmaxes) 😆

zenith coral
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
subtle crown
#

!bugs

prisma monolithBOT
raw marlin
#

why is whysiprs new video so short?

fathom minnow
#

While we have only 4p s2

haughty flicker
#

yes

#

fatebound still better st

#

than deathstalker

waxen oyster
#

it was already outsimming in s2

#

but uhh

#

gl playing that

haughty flicker
#

just gamba properly

#

ez

#

who needs 2p to get lucky coin when i always get lucky coin anyway

novel star
#

rather blow my shit off smoove than play fb without the new 2p

#

ima be honest

#

kyveza ptsd

fathom minnow
haughty flicker
#

because the number is higher

chilly sluice
#

anyone know where best to get s2 gear for tier pieces, for rat alt?

haughty flicker
#

it was already equal/better single target anyway in s2

#

then they giga buffed coins and shit

fathom minnow
#

I mean normal ppl)

haughty flicker
#

yeah because it feels like ass

#

and the only fight you'd even possibly have played it on was sprocket

#

without 2p you arent guaranteed to get lucky coin on opener so you might just lowroll and say gg

#

so dont lowroll

#

but again, they buffed the tails coin damage by like 17% or something since then

fathom minnow
#

Ok so I believe on all bosses where we have at least 1+ add we will run s2 cleave build DS, and if pure st we play FB.

Even without new tierset

haughty flicker
#

basically, there are some bosses with adds where fb might still be better depending on timings

#

but that can be figured out as the tier goes on

distant fog
#

were garunteed lucky coin anyway right

haughty flicker
#

with 2p yes

#

before that no

distant fog
#

so the spec itself fixed the entire talent tree

#

its just a raid buff talent tree now

#

except only you get the raid buf heheh

coral hearth
#

Hiya decided to pick up rogue again this season :]. Quick question and apologies if this is common sense, but couldnt find anything about it. Since we macro shiv with thistle tea and it being great to have during KB windows, do we ever play around the auto use below 30 energy on thistle tea during downtime?

balmy condor
#

nop

#

doesn't matter

coral hearth
#

aight thank god

#

also thanks for the great video guide!

#

right on time for me haha

balmy condor
#

np

sturdy python
#

na whispyr you cooked with this vid thank you

#

I also remembered what I was on about earlier, it was something a bit like this


Assa DS Raid ST: CMQAA0tw2gAD7pPTLoW5IGZDeMjZmhxM2mBAAAAAgZBWmBAAAAAg22mZGMzYMzMLz2MzMmBDzMzYmNbjZA2mZZswYGzSjZbZYy2wwCA

Assa FB Raid ST: CMQAA0tw2gAD7pPTLoW5IGZDeMjZmhxMYAAAAAAY2glZAAAAAAottZmxMzMGzMzysNzMjZwwMzMmZz2YGADsAzY0Y2AZbAbA

Bleed build: CMQAA0tw2gAD7pPTLoW5IGZDeYmZMzMmBAAAAAAYWmxsMDAAAAAAttNzMYmBzMzysNYMmZmZmZmZYzyYGgNzyADYJYbYCMsMA
Hybrid 2x Vanish: CMQAA0tw2gAD7pPTLoW5IGZDeMzMzMzwMAAAAAAAzyMmtZAAAAAAotlZmBzMYmZWmtxYwMzMzgZmZzyYGgtZWGLMmxs0Y2WGmsNMsMA
No Garrote: CMQAA0tw2gAD7pPTLoW5IGZDeMjZmZmxM2mBAAAAAgZZw2MAAAAAA02yMzgZGMzMLz2MzMYGzYwMzsZZMDwmZZgBsEsMMBGWA ``` 

But against these it had % differences across the same scenario
#

That was last tier, or the tier before iirc, not sure if you did it or it was someone else but it was floating around, I was asking earlier if someone had done it again but it doesn't seem like it, it's not even needed I can get the answers I want pretty quickly

#

Thanks vid is really good and answered a couple questions I had/was thinking about

balmy condor
#

I haven't seen that

#

but np for vid, glad it helped

vapid terrace
#

oh... trinkets changedl

#

maybe they all still suck

raw marlin
#

no joke the video is goated but it will take me about 2 weeks to watch it as i play it while im falling asleep lol

visual sun
#

goated vid tho, phone slapped my face multiple times

raw marlin
#

even my GF is a rogue expert at this point

normal mist
#

I feel you

balmy condor
raw marlin
#

do we get a written version of the video?

radiant quarry
#

@balmy condor can you explain to me the combo point colors for 5-6-7? You have 2 conditions with colors on each. Tried to decipher on my own but im missing something lol

raw marlin
#

below that it doesnt consume it

balmy condor
#

when you have darkest night, you need a max combo point envenom

#

that is purple

radiant quarry
#

Got it. Does it translate into sub which is (correct me if im wrong) Finisher at 6+ cps?

sterile swallow
balmy condor
#

I haven't played sub or outlaw all expac

#

if it doesn't work for them I can change it

#

I have no reason to play inferior specs

#

bro they tuned trinkets again

#

kms

#

oh it's just open world

#

nvm

#

dont kms

spice surge
balmy condor
#

araz nerfs garf_sit

radiant quarry
# balmy condor I have no reason to play inferior specs

Fair! i do not believe it does. For your old WA (for some reason this one didnt just give an update option) i changed 5 to a color and 6-7 to another color for sub ref. Just wanted to check with you before i mess with point 5 myself

spice surge
#

90% of the specs in the game wanting araz + antenna is probably not staying

tall jay
#

More vids pls

spice surge
radiant quarry
#

Really appreciate all your work!

balmy condor
#

my pleasure

solar wyvern
#

Buff pacemaker, nerf antenna to be slightly better than it, araz nerf, signet buff. Those are my wishlists

distant fog
#

sike

haughty flicker
#

didnt they just nerf pacemaker

#

i doubt they rebuff it

#

then again the antenna situation is pretty cringe so maybe they just revert that and nerf antenna

solar wyvern
#

Pacemaker nerf made no sense idk

balmy condor
#

nerfing the trinket that every melee dps wanted?"

#

sounds reasonable to me

haughty flicker
#

at least antenna is second boss

#

so if you lose the loot council battle royale its not doomed

lethal swallow
#

Zoltyck just starts working at 35% right? Like the damage of existing bleeds goes up?

spice surge
#

Yes

#

You dont need to reapply anything

lethal swallow
#

Also, god damn it

#

That's reset tomorrow 😔

frozen glacier
#

unlucky 😔

past zephyr
#

is the lingering darkness buff rolled into darkness night? cant see it on in my buffs or auras?

shy creek
#

lingering darkness occurs after the expiration of deathmark

wide atlas
shy creek
#

darkest night occurs after consuming 3 stacks of deathstalker's mark

past zephyr
#

oh gotcha

wide atlas
#

I have 4 and 3/4 hours to play tomorrow and my raid is the day after that

past zephyr
#

haha im a moron, ty @shy creek