assassination

[balmy condor]

then you get another cold blood envenom, so 8/7

and that's why the capstone is guaranteed with the tier set

[hot jay]

Big

[honest needle]

deatherstalker still best for m+ right ?

[balmy condor]

deathstalker still the only option for m+, yes

[honest needle]

ok ty

[balmy condor]

you cannot play fatebound in m+

[hot jay]

It's getting even more funnel and fatebound starts to stink on aoe unfortunately

Deathstalker is getting more funnel that is

[honest needle]

debating if i wanna play my rogue or boomy for season 3

is sin ahead of outlaw for m+??

[balmy condor]

probably yes

[winged sun]

Sin is ahead of everything buddy

Its omega turbo meta in m+

[honest needle]

just wish we had better single target

[winged sun]

its not even close

[honest needle]

thats what worrys be its so good i feel we gonna get nerfed

[winged sun]

U pull stuff on bosses

[honest needle]

and i dont got time to gear multiple toons

[winged sun]

And u bleed everything ez top boss dmg

Bleed build meta

[honest needle]

i also only know how to play hybrid build i have no clue how to play without kingsbane i see people not using it. I love the hybrid build tho

[golden loom]

well bleed is as easy as it gets

[winged sun]

Its simple but not easy to play perfect

[golden loom]

yeah meant like the general concepts

[honest needle]

how do u use shiv without kingsbane and is hybrid still good or will bleed b best

[winged sun]

Bleed is way better

Hmm

Idk my brain isn’t functioning i slept 2 hrs need to go back to bed

[golden loom]

shiv for dm and shiv in aoe

[honest needle]

im so use to use shive after kingsbane whats the trick to do it without kb

do u shiv once u have all bleeds out ?

[golden loom]

you just press it

yeah

[honest needle]

o ok shouldb e b to bad same opener and stuff right

[winged sun]

Theres also execute and vanish window which gives crit

[honest needle]

gar gar rup rup ct mut right

[winged sun]

So in ur vanish window u shiv+deathmark and tea etc etc

Ur gonna do 70m dps on big pulls

[honest needle]

so u vanish into a shiv ?

i thought we just use vanish to apply all bleeds

and with tanks chain pulling so much how do we resteath all the time

[obtuse valley]

you play double vanish and master assassin with bleed build, should always try to make sure you have 1 for opener on a big pull, esp big pull into boss w/ lust for extra dmg

[honest needle]

so on a big pull u apply bleeds like normal then deathmark into vanihs then shiv ?

[weary spear]

Just shiv once CT is up

Vanish when first carnage ends

[honest needle]

what buttonm do u press right after vanish ?

[weary spear]

Probably garotte

[honest needle]

or just refresh bleeds

ok got it im so use to doing something important to do vanish cvorrectly

[weary spear]

Vanish is just a 12 second dps CD

[thorn thorn]

@balmy condor Question about my friend who is a draven player

He plays tank veigar jungle too

Do you have a comment on this

[balmy condor]

yeah, why

[thorn thorn]

Why what

[balmy condor]

why would he do that

[fallen charm]

if the game lasts 2 hours he would have a tanky veigar with 1k ap

stonks

[haughty flicker]

tank veigar is based

but why jungle

[golden loom]

I mean even mid veigar likes tank items

like deadmans plate / anathemas chain in previous seasons

[haughty flicker]

yeah you can build legit fucking anything on veigar

just farm stacks and one shot

but why jungle

[fallen charm]

to avoid getting ganked

[golden loom]

well u would also avoid winning

which is something

[fallen charm]

[haughty flicker]

man if my fucking jungler locked in veigar im pulling out some bullshit

[golden loom]

if I was in a 2 hour league game I would pull something out aswell

[haughty flicker]

time for the nasus mid stack gang

[cursive finch]

Can someone quickly explain how to use vanish properly as an AOE dam cooldown?

[haughty flicker]

ap nasus so when veigar runs in with cage i press w

ez

[fallen charm]

nasus jungle is da way broda

[cursive finch]

I’m really new to rogue, so just curious on tips for vanish

[haughty flicker]

i'd answer but your pfp scares me

[fallen charm]

vanish activates the talent indiscriminated carnage

[golden loom]

well atleast it was a win

[balmy condor]

65 min veigar mid nasus top I'd fucking hope it's a win

[haughty flicker]

damn i thought that was thresh top for a second

[fallen charm]

not even 10 farm/min SMH

[haughty flicker]

was excited

[golden loom]

Michael Jordan the rift terrorist hasnt played soloq in 2 months.. I am washed

[cursive finch]

I get this, so then do I swap off my main target to spread?

[balmy condor]

full build yunara doing her best to try and hit 10cs/min after reaching 6 items 30 minutes ago

[cursive finch]

Or can I just hit main target and it’ll spread?

[balmy condor]

you can just hit main target

[haughty flicker]

oh is yunara the new champ

i havent played in a while

what do

[fallen charm]

auto atack turbo

[balmy condor]

on hit hypercarry adc

[golden loom]

I miss grinding soloq...

[haughty flicker]

oh its an adc nvm

fuck that

[golden loom]

but I also cba putting in the time at the moment

[haughty flicker]

about once a year i make the mistake of updating and playing some solo queue

i think this is the longest ive gone without doing it actually

been a good time

[weary spear]

!carnage

[prisma monolith]

Indiscriminate Carnage Targetting and Swapping
TLDRMouseovers/Target swapping is optimal on 6 target, or 8+ targets, but not necessarily required

• The 2 Bleeds spread by carnage are smart and will prioritize mobs without the bleed. If everything already has bleeds it'll apply randomly
• You as the character are still casting the bleed against your target like normal, this is why people will sometimes use mouseover macros or swap targets

Swapping targets is situationally better, but can be ignored if you're having difficulties with it. Take 5 mob aoe as an example, your first garrote cast will apply to 3 targets (your target + 2 more). Regardless of if you swap or not, your second cast of garrote will hit your target, and then apply 2 more garrotes, prioritizing the mobs that do not have garrote. In very large aoe pulls (12 or more), a standard opener (garrote-garrote-rupture-rupture-garrote-garrote) will only apply 9 garrotes (3+2+2+2) and 5 ruptures (3+2) if you do not swap, losing you 3 garrotes and a rupture.

It is technically worse, but the situations in which you lose bleeds aren't very common; the lost ruptures/garrotes don't contribute much to your already flooded energy, you don't get additional scent of blood stacks, etc. The loss is purely the extra damage from those bleeds.

[golden loom]

I need to do a small grind before the year is over just to hit masters

[haughty flicker]

small grind to masters

bro i barely hit fucking plat

[golden loom]

cant break my streak of hitting it every year for the past how many years

[haughty flicker]

(before emerald existed)

[weary spear]

Are you guys talking about league

[haughty flicker]

nope

[fallen charm]

about bleed build

[weary spear]

I’ve never played so idfk

[fallen charm]

btw what is the max coin stacks you can get on fb?

is it infinite with infinite luck?

[haughty flicker]

im sure there is a cap at some point

[golden loom]

this is from the 23rd of december, played 30 soloq games in a day to go from d4 -> masters on a fresh acc for a bet with some irl friends, played from 10 am -> 6am and then went to celebrate christmas eve at my parents house

[haughty flicker]

just due to like

how numbers work and shit

[fallen charm]

so can I get negative stacks if I go to high?

[haughty flicker]

so lucky you start the integer overflow

if you think about it fatebound has near infinite variance

what if i just flip tails 3000 times in a row

[balmy condor]

this has actually caused me some strokes while simming

[haughty flicker]

[balmy condor]

you randomly get bell curves like this

and you're like

why the fuck is it so off-center

and you realize that one of the fights in the sim

randomly just hit like 40 coins in a row

and caused the max sim to skyrocket

so you hit sim again, and it straightens out again

but it's a near constant heart attack when your TC fatebound

cause it just jumpscares you

every fucking time

[golden loom]

Lets go gambling

[fresh kelp]

turbo highroll a 40 coin winstreak to get gapped by my destro warlock

[balmy condor]

I mean that sim was from like 3 weeks ago

the numbers on that make no sense anymore

[golden loom]

Praying to hit a 78 coin chain in execute on a damage amp and get an unbeatable log

[fresh kelp]

im not comparing sim numbers im just a warlock hater

[balmy condor]

unironically might see it happen in some fuck ass normal log

like there is bound to be that one guy on first boss or something

with a 1:30 kill time

that flipped nothing but tails the whole way through

[fallen charm]

I need a weakaura with incrementally satisfying noises for every streak

[balmy condor]

by the end of the season I'm sure we'll see some bullshit

[earnest remnant]

looks better than what you showed me last time xD

[balmy condor]

okay well that was because of an entirely different thing

that had nothing to do with fatebound

[golden loom]

Yeah I guess since FB has had like negative playrate up to this point we are in for some bangers

[balmy condor]

if there's even 200 people playing fatebound, killing 3 bosses a week on 3 difficulties, for 20 weeks?

adds up

there's GOTTA be one lottery ticket in there

[gaunt sigil]

I love rng

[haughty flicker]

it me

im gonna win the lottery

[golden loom]

Lowkey need a fatebound thread with weekly highscores

[fallen charm]

this

[haughty flicker]

i definitely need a weakaura to track my highest coin streak

[golden loom]

"look at this 32 flip my team wiped tho"

[haughty flicker]

like the ace tracker outlaw has

[dark quiver]

is there any way to get last season's tier set?

[haughty flicker]

if you have last season gear you can still cata it

and i mean it would still drop in raid if you did that

[fallen charm]

raid I guess

I just don't think you can upgrade it

[wicked carbon]

Is there a pack with more than 5 target dummies in the game ?

Wanna train my AOE on 8+ Targets

[fallen charm]

the venthyr classhall has a few

I don't remember if more than 5 tho

[crude helm]

I wish the class hall dummies had accurate numbers

[balmy condor]

no

[wicked carbon]

Class hall from legion ?

[fallen charm]

you can always put some toys beside the aoe dummies

[crude helm]

Ye

[wicked carbon]

How do you get the toy ?

[balmy condor]

do you still fall through dalaran if you step those dummies

or did they fix that

[fallen charm]

turnip, love fool, fish head, icarus

[wicked carbon]

can be bought on the auction house ?

[fallen charm]

I don't think you can

every toy is a different drop/rep/quest

[blazing parcel]

only 6 m0 can done ? need done 2 repeat to do 3slot weekly right ?

or its 7 ?

can join tazvesh m0 ?

[balmy condor]

you need to repeat 2, yes

[crude helm]

No, tazvesh m0 is hard mode and comes out on Tuesday

[brisk forge]

Wish they would bring Gambit instead 🙈

[haughty flicker]

wdym, we are getting gambit

[brisk forge]

Oh xD

[haughty flicker]

[zenith elm]

[brisk forge]

Its a miracle how i can be 1% player xD

[pliant remnant]

[cedar iron]

you still have to activate hardmode, theres normal m0 aswell

[wise pilot]

wait ass can use none daggers af offhand? ..

[haughty flicker]

idk what those words mean

assa uses two daggers

[distant fog]

Damn

[earnest remnant]

you "can" but you cannot press mutilate with it equipped

[nova kelp]

lol sub can ACTUALLY use a non dagger offhand, but just like never fucking do it

[wise pilot]

HAvent actually tried it, just equipped one offhand and was shocked

[earnest remnant]

cuz assa cant press mutilate with it, and sub reduces its passive combo points by a fuck load

so its great

yep

[dense cedar]

they should let outlaw equip an off-hand shield so they can slam it with their mastery

[nova kelp]

sub should be a 2 hander spec, but your xmog always reverts to a katana no matter what you do

your character also auto does a /say "nothing personal kid" every time you step

[dense cedar]

personnel*

[burnt juniper]

!macro

[prisma monolith]

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[tulip pasture]

!talents

[desert salmon]

In aoe, do we shiv only when monster's hp is under 35 percentage?

[dense cedar]

should be using shiv near the start of your opener in aoe

[desert salmon]

first at start and 35 under?

cuz of zoldyck

[dense cedar]

might be wrong but I think you're meant to just use them b2b inside of the burst window

i assume the 35% target is your prio?

they aren't really gonna live much longer

probably a waste of a cast if you could've used it elsewhere

your shiv uses are usually because they're buffing something

all your bleeds or DN

[desert salmon]

zoldyck says when 35 percent of hp left it increases dmg

shiv also burst dmg

then together, dmg can be multiply

[dense cedar]

35% hp is a very volatile metric for just a random pack

it just really depends if you get full value out of it really

if the enemies die in the first 2 seconds on shiv

was probably not worth it

[desert salmon]

So my thought could be useful on high keys

they could last more than 8s

[dense cedar]

then its probably just fine

as long as all your bleeds are still up

if you're actually getting value from the shiv cast

just the thing is until you're in the much higher keys stuff reaching that low hp is just gonna die very soon

[lunar nova]

Do you thing guys that Assa will be played to push keys?

[marsh fjord]

Depends on tuning but for now most likely yes

[west crown]

Likely early on yeah

[marsh fjord]

But most pushing happens like a few months in

[rotund oak]

sub is jsut superior to sin

also u know its gonna be a good season when out of 1 floodgate m0 this baby drops

[lunar nova]

Why sub is better?

[sharp lily]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735

[radiant raven]

It glows purple

[pliant remnant]

Says bro with his light blue Subtlety role colour

smh

[radiant raven]

Those shadows are hoarding all the purple, smh

[rotund oak]

coz it has the moves

this laptop needs recycling

[buoyant herald]

🤔

[maiden sierra]

Can someone make me a weakaura that does the slot machine win sounds when you roll +7 coins in a row on fatebound

I will pay you nothing

[marsh fjord]

Can make something like that tonight if you want 😂

[golden loom]

doing kyveza just reminds me why 2 piece of fatebound will be nice

cause holy fuck not getting capstone makes me wanna jump in a black hole

[broken lion]

Should I use new talent build with old gear or use the old talent build with old gear?

[sinful socket]

Fatebound still looking to be the go to with new tier set?

[broken lion]

tier set I mean ig

[young sun]

When manually putting rupture on other the your main target do you use full combo points or just as few as possible?

[sinful socket]

or we still running deathstalker?

[marsh fjord]

Do you mean to rupture snipe for energy?

[jolly stirrup]

Damn not bad, that's either a 6% or 3% drop

Depending on which boss

[rotund oak]

think its the 2nd or the 1st

[young sun]

More when I can't vanish or could not stealth before pull because tank takes in more packs when 1dude has 2%health

[jolly stirrup]

6% then

[dense cedar]

pacemacker from duo iirc

[jolly stirrup]

Grats

[marsh fjord]

So in m+ you just dot whatever you can bro

[latent verge]

I got that on my VDH and not my rogue or warrior SMH

[normal mist]

For pure st yes

[rotund oak]

its champion gear but will help for pushing,gonna slap some keys this season maybe

[jolly stirrup]

For sure

I saw today that the BIS dagger from M+ is 0.46% drop chance

[latent verge]

I’m focusing on pushing keys this season

[normal mist]

I got priory trinket last night, my gf got sacbrood

[young sun]

Thanks 🙂

[normal mist]

"bis"

[golden loom]

"bis" dagger is just a max lvl myth track dagger from anywhere

[normal mist]

Ahahaha

[rotund oak]

pacemaker vdh 🐐

[jolly stirrup]

I stand corrected 0.43%

[radiant raven]

100% drop chance from 60 gilded and the work order bench

[dense cedar]

WDPS op

[normal mist]

@golden loom great minds my man

[jolly stirrup]

But ye I figured

[rotund oak]

testing^^

im focusing on my muscle memory

[balmy condor]

send monsters

I'm losing my voice

[marsh fjord]

Same

What you doing awake

[balmy condor]

recording the giga guide

(it's done)

[marsh fjord]

Ahhh 😧

[balmy condor]

it's okay

the voice will recover

hopefully

I don't think I've ever talked that long in one go

I went to stop the maplestory BGM

[spice surge]

Talking for very long is surprisingly rough

[balmy condor]

and saw this

and despaired

[balmy condor]

talking for 3 hours to an empty room with no one listening

lowkey feel like a psychopath

[spice surge]

Full schizomode

[golden loom]

https://tenor.com/view/crazy-cat-cat-gatito-crazy-insane-gif-4445261359056491120

[balmy condor]

good thing I don't need to go through the entire 3 hour video now and add timestamps

right?

I'm never doing this again

[golden loom]

what if you just send another 3 hours and do the german version

[balmy condor]

nein

[uneven marsh]

just use your cute face and natural charm to make someone else do it

[balmy condor]

meine stimme hält das nicht aus

[marsh fjord]

Bro what kinda guide did you make

[balmy condor]

everything

[marsh fjord]

Holy

[grim jay]

du hast mich beschworen

[marsh fjord]

Saving my boredom single handed

[balmy condor]

I started with explaining what a combo point is

and I ended with a rant about dungeonroute sims being statistically unsound comparisons for dungeons

literally everything

[grim jay]

@balmy condor are you doing the degen rep grind?

[balmy condor]

fuck no what do I look like to you

[uneven marsh]

I mean...

[grim jay]

incredibly beautiful

[golden loom]

the lore of world of warcraft into stat weights into re-stealths into what is a dagger into fatebound m+ yap into what the helly

[balmy condor]

I'll yap for 3 hours straight but I wouldn't be caught dead doing a stupid ass rep grind

I have my limit

[grim jay]

guys I know are renown 10, doing every single stupid WQ in the whole expansion with the contract

[balmy condor]

yeah

[grim jay]

dunno if there would be any way I would be that bored

[balmy condor]

hell nah

[valid hinge]

do we reapply garrote for every targets in aoe situation after the first one expires?

[balmy condor]

no

[golden loom]

have u done kyveza ?? mr whispyr

[pliant remnant]

yeah WHISPYR

[wary light]

I'll take, "Ways to make me quit playing assa in dungeons" for 100, Steve!

[pliant remnant]

tell me if I can trust your GUIDES

'cause if you ain't killed kyveza ??

then

[balmy condor]

I'll yap for 3 hours straight but I wouldn't be caught dead doing a stupid ass rep grind boss grind

[golden loom]

[pliant remnant]

wtf

bro...

[golden loom]

I started 20 min ago and I fear I will have to go until either I or the boss is dead

[radiant raven]

That's the spirit

[balmy condor]

I'm sure I will have fun doing the fight

but not pre-season

[radiant raven]

It's a real good fight. I hope they make more like this.

And bring back the brawlers guild.

[tame quartz]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[golden loom]

it reminds me of beating my head against the wall fighting Malenia for 20 hours and that was one of the best experiences I've had so might aswell send this

[radiant raven]

Hell yeah, it really does have the vibe of a fantastic souls boss where 99% of deaths are player error.

and 1% is Brann error

[golden loom]

yeah fuck brann

[radiant raven]

He loves those portals

[golden loom]

why does he just stand in the blackhole casting

[frosty comet]

Yeah mhm i think you got the numbers mixed up but well go with it

[tame quartz]

Is there a WA to track when you can dry cast Shiv, for instance it shows when you can freely cast shiv and you will still have both shivs up for your deathmark, and not show up if you will not have both shivs during deathmark?

[grim jay]

at that point you might aswell use the 1 button rota

[marsh fjord]

Don’t show anything related to the fight tho because people will flame you in the outlaw section

[balmy condor]

dry shivs are by definition the next shiv after deathmark, so unless you make some insane decision making, you will have 2 shivs for the next deathmark

it's a full 1:30-2 minutes later

so idk what the concern is for that

most people just track their lingering darkness window

[marsh fjord]

There is a wa on wago that gives a big text on your screen when you can dry shiv but I don’t know how useful thatcwill be for you

It’s better to learn yourself imo

[broken lion]

cold blood build before tier set or no

[balmy condor]

yes, fatebound is 5-7% better

and not playing cold blood on fatebound is not an option

required talent

[marsh fjord]

I’m really curious if they fixed 2 set

Will see tomorrow

[balmy condor]

it's not fixed on ptr and there's no spell data on live to indicate they fixed it

[grim jay]

speaking of talent, I got bad news for the rouge community

[normal mist]

oof

[marsh fjord]

Rip

[balmy condor]

💄

[grim jay]

GARRET GARRET is doing videos again

[balmy condor]

rogue videos?

[broken lion]

is the fix a good or bad thing

[grim jay]

didnt see any class related content. so far boss guides and tierlists

[broken lion]

2 set bug is good for us?

[balmy condor]

no

[broken lion]

oh :c

[spice surge]

You know how it says kingsbane is 4 seconds longer

The bug makes it so that part is effectively a lie

[earnest remnant]

have they not fixed that yet?

[golden loom]

cant believe they would just lie in the ptr notes

[west crown]

This is still pure ST right?

[balmy condor]

yes

you can also just sim your character

[latent verge]

Yall doing the bleed build for M+?

[dense cedar]

Yes

[latent verge]

It’s quite fun lol

[lunar nova]

Guys I have a problem with Stealth, it cancel when near enemies or after tot sec... What could be the problem

[dense cedar]

like u get in combat or it just turns off?

[spice surge]

Are you wearing the intellect dagger from the nightfall event

[dense cedar]

surely not again

[lunar nova]

Yes,

[spice surge]

Thats why

[dense cedar]

[lunar nova]

Ok thanks 😄

[pliant remnant]

fer fok's sake

[dense cedar]

u want your gear to have agility

[deep gyro]

Na, got to stab smarter

[humble verge]

well

lads

3h~ or so until dinner

do i farm rep with contract or try to do ??

[dense cedar]

rep

[radiant raven]

Both, farm ??

[static glacier]

??

[rotund oak]

calling my homies for pizza this weekend,rogue interest big

[static glacier]

yo

does anyone have one of those talent compare sims whisp sometimes puts out

[humble verge]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[humble verge]

idk if they are updated tho

[static glacier]

can check, just curious about something

confirmed it

seems tier set just kills MA for fatebound

[main bobcat]

Yea ok buddy

[static glacier]

back to outlaw channel

[main bobcat]

Sorry

[static glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/cats-catz-cute-cats-gif-13245516474968808917

[uncut ermine]

is Fatebound better in ST even before the tierset bonus. or does it only become better after getting the 2-piece set?

[static glacier]

before

im like 100k higher as fb than ds

they buffed tails by 18%

it was already neck and neck before

now fb clearly wins st

[deft shard]

Gambling 50/50 without the tier set

[lusty mountain]

friendly question

why is a 684 sac simming more than pacemaker 671 in dungeon slice?

or should I just shut up and listen to the sims already? im just surprised

[balmy condor]

Why would that be surprising

[fossil loom]

!fok

[prisma monolith]

Fok Conditions Post-Buff
Fan of Knives as a generator to replace ambush/mutilate:

• Baseline 3+ targets, -1 if talented into momentum of despair and thrown precision, +1 if talented into vicious venoms, +1 if talented into blindside. (Generally 5 with raid build, 3 with Bleed m+, 2 with Hybrid m+)
  Fan of Knives with Clear the Witnesses Up:
• Baseline 2+ targets, -1 if lingering darkness is up or you aren't talented into vicious venoms. With Vicious Venoms casting during lingering darkness is dps neutral.
  Fan of Knives with Darkest Night Up:
• Only on 2+ targets, or without Vicious Venoms talented. This is also a very very minor optimization

The most important to remember is the generator rules, clear the witnesses and darkest night optimizations can be effectively ignored as they are not meaningful DPS improvements

[balmy condor]

Pacemaker got a sizable nerf, sacbrood is a good trinket

They’re both passive

[red schooner]

Okay, I'm back from a festival, what lore did I miss?

[balmy condor]

Good chance you’re also possibly causing your signet to swing crit

[lusty mountain]

idk though that sac was useless now q_q

good to know

[balmy condor]

HUH

[lusty mountain]

IM DUMB

[balmy condor]

Why would it be useless

[nova aspen]

[deep gyro]

[lusty mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-sad-cry-gif-24016801

[torn dome]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[static glacier]

bc it's 13 ilvls higher and of similar quality to pacemaker assuming ilvls are equal

[pastel roost]

Yayy i did it guys !

As fatebound

[grim jay]

good morning mo!

[static glacier]

good morning davyn

[grim jay]

gz and my condolences

[jolly stirrup]

whats this?

[pastel roost]

Kyveza, difficulty " ??"

Delve boss

[jolly stirrup]

I see

Grats

[kindred ingot]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[dense cloud]

I checked the talent build on wowhead for m+ and then went over to look for the aoe rotation and it shows kingsbane to use

but with the talent build, kingsbane isn't in it

xdddd

[spice surge]

Just skip that step then, minor errors slip through

Assuming you have actually selected the bleed build

[shy dragon]

Any clue why the recommended Shiv + Tea macro aint working? Not using Thistle Tea for me 🙁
#showtooltip Shiv
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[spice surge]

Doesnt work if you have the thistle tea item

[shy dragon]

I have it, but in my bank, not on my person

[spice surge]

Yes

[shy dragon]

ah, let me YEET that then

[spice surge]

That bugs it out

[shy dragon]

lul. well thanks!

[nova kelp]

wait lol

does it?

hahahahahahaha

I didn't know that lol

[quaint nimbus]

Lmao that’s a funny bug

[drifting cedar]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[crimson yoke]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[bitter crow]

anyone has any idea why my focus target ToTs stopped working?

talented into it obv

[main bridge]

!tricks

[prisma monolith]

Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:

/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0

[main bridge]

Use this and you won’t need a focus

[bitter crow]

no, I want focus target

it's been working for years

suddenly stopped this Wednesday

I have 4 ToT macros :">

[main bridge]

That seems unnecessary but you do you

[rotund oak]

takes one to know one

remove it from your bars and relog

put it again in your bars

and test

if still doesnt work,rewrite

[bitter crow]

I'll try that, ty ❤️

[balmy condor]

bro 4 ToT macros

[rotund oak]

cheers

[balmy condor]

I don't even talent into it

💀

nahhhhhhhhhhh

[bitter crow]

I ain't blowing a vanish when PUG tanks can't tank my man 😛

[rotund oak]

did u upload the lengthy guide?cant see it

[balmy condor]

it's processing

[ashen orbit]

exciting

[rotund oak]

unhinged question but

how's your hair

(in the guide)

[balmy condor]

the same as it was before

[rotund oak]

by far

[balmy condor]

my god man I'm ngl

I think I got some new allergy

[rotund oak]

the best hair

[balmy condor]

cause my nose was itching

the whole fucking video

I am scratching like a mfer

[rotund oak]

we had a fire burning 20klm away

i was sneezing

from the dust and smell

had to take medicine to stop

[marsh fjord]

That’s almost every video I always see your scratching your nose 😂😂

[modern plinth]

Any WA/addon for rupture timer bars on all targets (not on plater)

[balmy condor]

bro it wasn't always like this

[rotund oak]

this is confusing,what do you mean by that?You want something that shows each rupture cd individually on a target?

[balmy condor]

idk maybe it's some dust thing and I gotta deep clean or something

[main bridge]

Time to invest in a good vacuum

[rotund oak]

maybe its the gato

[modern plinth]

Just bars with timers, so I dont have to track my rupture debuffs on the name plates. No idea if its any good, but i have a hard time tracking on plater when theres alot of targets

[marsh fjord]

Bro puts up a line of coke before a video and says it’s dust

[balmy condor]

dude fucking maybe

[balmy condor]

does this look like coke to you

https://tenor.com/view/sim-simulate-gif-8199108223823847654

[marsh fjord]

Hahahahaha yes

It does

[rotund oak]

this realistically cannot happen easily,if it can happen at all.We used to have rogue power bars but that was only for cds,not dots on each target individually.The best thing u can do,if platter rots your fps remove it and just have a WA pack,each time to switch target it automatically tracks bleed cd

plater is just the best for this job

[modern plinth]

Ok thanks, guess I just need some bigger icons on my player then 😅

[rotund oak]

u can regulate that and track only specific debuffs/buffs on your targets from display tab

[oblique sorrel]

You can adjust the size of the bars to be easier to see the rupture icon

[rotund oak]

personally i think its too much work for nothing rly

if u track ur gar/rup drop on ur main target it drops from everywhere

since IC is a thing,u kinda know that

if u wanna go manual and refresh on target u just need plater coz it makes it very obvious

thats why its recommended over other stuff

[modern plinth]

True. Im not even sure how much of an dps increase it is to refresh manually after your out of IC buff to spread. Feels a bit like its too much work for a little dps increase

[rotund oak]

depends the pace in chain pulls,vanish cds/charges

manually u go with rup up to 5 then ct

iirc

depends also the time in which the mobs are estimated to die

rup sniping is also a thing btw

for instant energy gains

[modern plinth]

I can see a problem with alot of chain pulls. Guess spreading manually is needed on at least 5 targets

[rotund oak]

realistically manually u wont have the time to spread gar,only rup and pressing CT

u can press like once/twice(maybe)

[modern plinth]

Just garr on main target I guess

[rotund oak]

yup pretty much

[marsh fjord]

When you are in aoe, and IC ran out, you don’t press garrote anymore. Garrote is only worth using on 2 targets and that’s already a stretch

@modern plinth

If the pull is gonna last a bit. You vanish and get IC again and reapply bleeds again ofcourse but that’s so situational because is the pack gonna live for 1 more minute, 30 seconds, or 10 seconds. If pack is gonna live 10’seconds I’m not gonna vanish. It’s way to much of a cooldown

[modern plinth]

So I basically always wait with vanish to get IC when dots are running out?

If the pull is long enough that is

[spice surge]

Generally yes

[rotund oak]

you jsut need to evaluate the time a pack ends and another starts and plan accordingly with ur vanish

in most cases

if u cant restealth that is

thats why we cant rly say ''yes do that'' coz its situational

many ifs

[stray ivy]

Does IC have smart ass targeting

[balmy condor]

yes

[rotund oak]

yes

[balmy condor]

is it bad that I feel like I skipped over a bunch of stuff and went too fast

perhaps a part 2 when my voice recovers

[visual sun]

I haven’t even watched finished it, but if its based on ur wowhead guide, then everything should be there

[delicate trench]

3:33:3 what a treat

[balmy condor]

unplanned

[rotund oak]

just like melted cheese overflowing on the toast

[marsh fjord]

You just need some good medicine for your throat if have some suggestions if you want

[balmy condor]

I’ll call my girl over

[spice spire]

???

[round holly]

yo im dumb, is there any way to get decent gear beside m0 ?

[balmy condor]

Next 3 hour tutorial: how to rizz up a Mexican baddie

[balmy condor]

Not this week

[round holly]

ty

[winged quail]

3 hour whispyr video???

[balmy condor]

???

[spice spire]

Dog you good or

[balmy condor]

No

Throat hurt

[spice spire]

Mb king

[balmy condor]

Nose itchy

[maiden sierra]

Whispyr how long was the hiya in the intro for the video to be 3 hours?

[balmy condor]

Play it in 2x and it’s only 1:46

[whole wolf]

Hi there, I've been through the wowhead rotation but I got 2 questions

Should I always max my combo points to 7 before using them or its alright to throw rupture / crimson tempest / envenom at 5 or 6 combo points? (saying we're not throwing any shiv in and garrot has been refreshed already)
From what I saw on wowhead guide, we want to max out envenom for Darkest Night, but I'm not sure outside of that window

I'm a bit confused with Sanguine blades, once all of our bleeds are set, should I just wait to have enough energy to cast mutilate (unless i need to refresh caustic splatter) / fan of knives / envenom and stay above the 50% ?

[balmy condor]

Secret tip to time travel

[hot pasture]

!gear

[balmy condor]

5+ except darkest night, where you go 7

[maiden sierra]

I watch all my youtube videos at 2x speed.
Gotta midmax my watch time

[balmy condor]

No to sanguine blades

[golden loom]

I listen to videos in normal speed and often find myself zone out and then have to go back 30 min to listen to it again

[maiden sierra]

Videos in normal speed feel soo slow

[balmy condor]

Infinite watch time generator

[jolly stirrup]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1403486905915408524/Dark_Mode.jpg

[balmy condor]

I watch everything normal speed except myself

I 2x myself

Mostly cause I’ve heard all this shit before

Bro doesn’t need to yap twice

[golden loom]

My average youtube watchtime the past 7 days is 10 hours.. ig reels stealing time!

[supple ether]

Which talent or spell is it that refunds CP when u rupture after invis?

[humble verge]

noob

[balmy condor]

Bone spike

[royal lantern]

[golden loom]

I wonder what guild had that posted

[balmy condor]

Mine

[golden loom]

Actually?

[midnight mist]

nah it was mine

[golden loom]

Wouldnt it be in french then @midnight mist

[supple ether]

Is it always bad for the tea to get auto consumed? basicaly i should never go below 30?

[royal lantern]

doesnt matter

[balmy condor]

No it’s not bad

[golden loom]

!macro and forget about it

[prisma monolith]

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[midnight mist]

nowadays everything gets translated intstnatly with AI

you know

[royal lantern]

macro tea to shiv and ignore it exists

[supple ether]

I see , thanks

[balmy condor]

YouTube suggested a French guy to me with auto-dub

It was a nightmare

[red schooner]

First m0 run, got the sacbrood. RIP my luck for the season

[midnight mist]

ye

[red schooner]

Its over for me

[midnight mist]

auto dubs are ..

idk

[golden loom]

AI is trying to eliminate the french? What the helly!

[midnight mist]

not good

not good at all

maybe it might get good enough at some point idk

[balmy condor]

Prolly will

[midnight mist]

in a few years we probably all have an app on our connected glasses taht just perma translate everything

with the same voice as the poeple speaking and shit

will go crazy

[livid folio]

On how many Bosses are we actually playing FB this tier?

[marsh fjord]

4 ish

1, 2, 6, 8, if I remember correctly

[livid folio]

Really? Are there Even that many bosses without adds or do we just dont care about them?

[marsh fjord]

You don’t care

[balmy condor]

It’s less about having adds at all

[regal seal]

!macro

[prisma monolith]

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[balmy condor]

And more about not having them frequently or not a ton

[marsh fjord]

I just wish they removed that talent

Fucking dumb

[balmy condor]

Fatebound can get away with an add here or there

[livid folio]

I see. And in a perfect world we just Stick on boss right

[balmy condor]

Yes

[marsh fjord]

You always stick boss doesn’t matter. Even on DS, assa swapping sucks ass

[agile nest]

Hey guys, I'm back for season 3 after 2 months, did we get any big changes to the meta? Is Bleed Build still viable or even better?

[thick citrus]

We had an oopsie with a vanish condition that's fixed now. 🙃

[livid folio]

Tell all the pad classes to care

[balmy condor]

Even better

[agile nest]

Nice

[warm vortex]

Whispyr is it true that assassination is a spec

[balmy condor]

Yes

[livid folio]

Yeah but still you would throw raptures for the gainz Right?

[royal lantern]

@balmy condor my RL just send me that

[warm vortex]

[royal lantern]

[balmy condor]

The answer is no

[marsh fjord]

For energy sniping yes, 1 or 2

[dawn kelp]

Should I play this spec in raid

[marsh fjord]

No go back to outlaw 😛

[warm vortex]

This is peak

[cunning needle]

you should have made the video 4 seconds longer

[naive crescent]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons8ball-deez-nuts-8ball-make-a-wish-merps-gif-26138412

[livid folio]

I am debating sub or sin still

[warm vortex]

Now whenever anyone asks a question you can just reply to their post with the entire whispyr video

[naive crescent]

https://tenor.com/view/thank-you-por-que-no-gif-23322568

[balmy condor]

This is a serious thing btw

[livid folio]

Obvious fuck up on his part true

[marsh fjord]

@balmy condor how many drinks did we use in the video

[balmy condor]

Why is it cinderbrew meadery

And not cindermead brewery

[livid folio]

How did you not spot the 4s thing whispyr???

[balmy condor]

Idk what 337 is

[livid folio]

Could have been perfect

[marsh fjord]

I’m gonna order some popcorn and make it a movie night hmmmmmmmm

[balmy condor]

1 glass of water

[livid folio]

No it would have been 3:33:33

[balmy condor]

Oh

4 seconds

Yah

[cunning needle]

dw

next expansion

there's always another video

[balmy condor]

No this wrecked my throat

I’m not doing this again

[cunning needle]

drink 2 glasses of water then

stay hydrated homie

[livid folio]

Reupload it with troll face at the end

[warm vortex]

Hey whispyr, lately i've been struggling with a certain problem. Mainly on the diffrences between bleed, hybrid and cleave. Is there any video or information you can recommend that goes over that?

Preferably in video format with a facecam and someone with coloured hair highlights commentating

[livid folio]

Or shoutout to Ravenhold

[fresh ermine]

Do you guys mouse over for garrote/rupture?

[marsh fjord]

Yes

[balmy condor]

No i can’t be fucked

[dusk fulcrum]

hi guys do you know how much haste % we do need for mono spec raid

[red schooner]

I'll pass my condolences on to quake

[balmy condor]

Whatever sims good

[marsh fjord]

Sim yourself is the best answer and just follow the robot

[warm vortex]

Honestly everything in this video sounds like something you'd do

also at the start you looked happy and at the end you looked distraught
Which makes sense tbh

[lyric gate]

im to old to kill kyveza

have to accept it

[warm vortex]

Also

[marsh fjord]

You can do it churki

[balmy condor]

Throat hurt

[warm vortex]

i just noticed you did all of this at like 1 in the morning to 4

[supple ether]

Can someone give me a bonespike tracker wa please , none of them on wago seem to work properly

[balmy condor]

Why the fuck would you need that

[lyric gate]

y good question

[naive crescent]

good thing theres like 35ilvl and 6 more months to try

[marsh fjord]

You won’t need that at all

[livid folio]

Yes

[marsh fjord]

The face of a defeated man

[midnight mist]

whispar

are the hairs color intended

[lyric gate]

y but its about the thrill of doing it in the first week

[cunning needle]

this is perfect for me to update the whispyr meme

[midnight mist]

or has it faded away

i rememerb it was blue once

[lyric gate]

zac can you help me with a +5 ara

[midnight mist]

no

[balmy condor]

It fades like that on purpose but yes very faded

[fallow canopy]

time to get some morning coffee and see the man himself yap

[supple ether]

@balmy condor https://gyazo.com/106923ed41eb8380f8ffdb7b3fde632e
how am i supposed to know if i have it or not here then

[lyric gate]

plottwist the green is the original colour

[hexed root]

!bis

[prisma monolith]

BiS lists are not helpful towards gearing yourself. In order for BiS items to truly be BiS, all items in the list have to be obtained at that level exactly, or else it doesn't make sense. Missing a socket for example would shift your stats slightly. On top of this, all stats being good on Assassination means there are currently over 500 "BiS" combinations that are within margin of error. You should always compare your gear through top gear or droptimizer instead.

Pre-raid or Pre-season BiS from world content is especially not helpful, and we do not maintain any lists of these types. These are absolute meaningless bait for gear that you will be replacing the moment the season comes out. Use Top Gear/Droptimizer to compare against your character.

[hot pasture]

sin > sub whis i need ur hair blue

[balmy condor]

You look if you have the talent selected

[warm vortex]

Theres a buff aswell

something like

[lyric gate]

you will know it when you get combo points of rupture or not

[supple ether]

Ahh so no point of tracking it

[warm vortex]

"A bone spike is ready"

Yea

[balmy condor]

No point in tracking

[supple ether]

i see , thanks

[warm vortex]

Honestly i might be going back to assa as an alt

I tried hybrid again and i liked it

[balmy condor]

That’s the worst one though

[lyric gate]

there are other classes ?

[warm vortex]

Idk i just like it more

[lyric gate]

nah hybrid is the best for m+

immo

[warm vortex]

Massive asteriks behind that statement

[balmy condor]

[lyric gate]

bleed is good if you do low shit

[balmy condor]

If only there was a three hour video or something where this was addressed

I already have regrets I’m ngl

[iron carbon]

I agree but still my fav

[warm vortex]

I'll try and churn one out for ya

[balmy condor]

You’re gonna what now

[warm vortex]

It will go over how to make your own amplifying posions irl

[lyric gate]

^xd

[warm vortex]

you know what im gonna do

[iron carbon]

Playing bleeds just makes me want to play outlaw

[balmy condor]

[iron carbon]

Or bleeds irl

[balmy condor]

Playing bleed makes me feel like spec isn’t just envenom x90

[red schooner]

Oh hell yeah we get a powerpoint presentation

[warm vortex]

It's even gonna come with a facecam

https://tenor.com/view/rat-gif-3417245934051922481

live footage

[iron carbon]

That's a state I kinda like tbh

[normal mist]

I'm using this every time now

[iron carbon]

Big envenom gaming

[long hawk]

Holy fuck 3 hour Whispyr video lets goooo

[iron carbon]

Do you know that, in Belgium, we got a "Mayonnaise Law"

[warm vortex]

Give me some insight flavourful chicken

[errant sinew]

yeah nightshift saved

[crystal oxide]

Its like a lecturer classes

[long hawk]

Thank God for time stamps

[iron carbon]

"Belgian mayonnaise law" or "Belgian law on mayonnaise" often refers to the requirement for a minimum fat content, typically 80%, in mayonnaise sold in Belgium.

[orchid pewter]

fire

[plain wind]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[warm vortex]

Interesting
i'm not too much for mayonnaise myself, but it's good to ensure im not breaking the law

[naive crescent]

the number one issue in my relationship is that i love mayo and she despises it

[iron carbon]

You can't sold and make mayonnaise in Belgium if there's not a specific amount of fat and a specific amount of yellow egg part

Or you can't call that Mayonnaise

[warm vortex]

Your saying that as if your entire marriage hinges on mayo

[iron carbon]

So, some providers call that "Mayo"

[naive crescent]

thats what marriage is all about

[warm vortex]

Interesting
are there simmilar laws for any other sauces or condiments

[naive crescent]

we cant share any sandwiches

[iron carbon]

Only mayonnaise

Dunno why

We're the sauce country after all

We should make a law for every sauce

[warm vortex]

Yea, make a sauce treaty

[hexed root]

kinda sick our overall bis this tier is 2 items from m+ and rest from raid

[iron carbon]

I'll be happy to pay taxes for it

[iron carbon]

Like last tier?

[spice surge]

I mean besides trinkets it literally doesnt matter

Ig the boots are alright too

[hexed root]

i thought there was more from m+, i was using 2 trinkets, and neck piece

[iron carbon]

Yes, didn't understand what you meant

[hexed root]

it does for some guilds and how they determine loot, obviously bis will change

[spice surge]

it doesnt matter though

[iron carbon]

But yes, all my gear was from raid

[hexed root]

if it doesn't matter for you and your guild, that's cool

[iron carbon]

Not trinket and one ring**

[spice surge]

Why would it matter for anybody else

[spice surge]

What whispyr decided the best belt out of the 5 available that sims literally the exact same is

[hexed root]

https://tenor.com/view/math-meme-math-is-math-meme-mr-incredible-the-incredibles-the-incredibles2-gif-20591317

[spice surge]

Yes thats what im saying

They all sim the same

[hexed root]

!bis

[prisma monolith]

BiS lists are not helpful towards gearing yourself. In order for BiS items to truly be BiS, all items in the list have to be obtained at that level exactly, or else it doesn't make sense. Missing a socket for example would shift your stats slightly. On top of this, all stats being good on Assassination means there are currently over 500 "BiS" combinations that are within margin of error. You should always compare your gear through top gear or droptimizer instead.

Pre-raid or Pre-season BiS from world content is especially not helpful, and we do not maintain any lists of these types. These are absolute meaningless bait for gear that you will be replacing the moment the season comes out. Use Top Gear/Droptimizer to compare against your character.

[hexed root]

it's this crap^

"there is no real bis"

[spice surge]

?

[hexed root]

im just working on submitting my "bis" list

[supple ether]

Is it always holding 2shivs for deathmark window in bleed build for m+ ?

[spice surge]

Yes

[broken lion]

how they fuck do u do kyveza on this fucking class

[iron carbon]

Submit the shit that sims higher

[hexed root]

you don't say lmao

[broken lion]

literally just dying to white hits at 688 bro

[iron carbon]

What's wrong then?

I don't get what's wrong

[broken lion]

evasion and vial on cd like tf?

[iron carbon]

Someone get it?

[hexed root]

who said anything was wrong?

[iron carbon]

You

[hexed root]

huh

[iron carbon]

I mean, you look like something's wrong

[harsh anchor]

Get more leech, use elusiveness, idk press your buttons to not die

[hexed root]

literally just said its cool we only have 2 pieces from m+ lol

never said anything was wrong

[broken lion]

leech dif? Thats it?

[harsh anchor]

It could be, I swapped to leech bracers and cloak and that helped. Also energy shield belt

[pulsar plank]

Should I do blindside procs on multi target

[iron carbon]

For spatter

[wise socket]

depends on the target count and what build you are playing

[iron carbon]

Or 3 targets and less

[pulsar plank]

on m+ build

[humble owl]

Hey Friends just a quick question, is it Fine in an aoe Situation to spam garrote on your Main Target to spread it on secondary Targets or is it a Heavy loss to tab to each individual mob ?

[wise socket]

you mutilate/ambush on 3 targets or lower in the standard bleed build

[fresh ermine]

Been using Naowh plater for years, Time for a change. Any rogue specific ones or is quazi etc good enough

[spice surge]

!carnage

[prisma monolith]

Indiscriminate Carnage Targetting and Swapping
TLDRMouseovers/Target swapping is optimal on 6 target, or 8+ targets, but not necessarily required

• The 2 Bleeds spread by carnage are smart and will prioritize mobs without the bleed. If everything already has bleeds it'll apply randomly
• You as the character are still casting the bleed against your target like normal, this is why people will sometimes use mouseover macros or swap targets

Swapping targets is situationally better, but can be ignored if you're having difficulties with it. Take 5 mob aoe as an example, your first garrote cast will apply to 3 targets (your target + 2 more). Regardless of if you swap or not, your second cast of garrote will hit your target, and then apply 2 more garrotes, prioritizing the mobs that do not have garrote. In very large aoe pulls (12 or more), a standard opener (garrote-garrote-rupture-rupture-garrote-garrote) will only apply 9 garrotes (3+2+2+2) and 5 ruptures (3+2) if you do not swap, losing you 3 garrotes and a rupture.

It is technically worse, but the situations in which you lose bleeds aren't very common; the lost ruptures/garrotes don't contribute much to your already flooded energy, you don't get additional scent of blood stacks, etc. The loss is purely the extra damage from those bleeds.

[hexed root]

I use atrocity's and enjoy it

[spice surge]

!plater

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[naive crescent]

whispyrs plater is made for assa, and builds off jundies which is v popular

[fresh ermine]

Ty

[pulsar plank]

Also there is this on icy-veins. Also says envenom as single target spender.

[iron carbon]

Yes

And with bleeds , you CT in single target too

CT>Envenom

[pulsar plank]

isnt crimson tempest just a dot? After that shouldnt we do envenom

[iron carbon]

Correct

But better keep CT up than press envenom

[pulsar plank]

I didnt play s2 so I dont know the changes but I'm familiar with s1 rotation. Is there a specific change that I should consider

[iron carbon]

You don't have to apply envenom before DM cuz you don't play kb

You press envenom if you don't have anything else to do

You rupture every long living target, even outside of IC

[pulsar plank]

Like in s1 ct was applied if you think target would live up to 12 seconds and 2+ targets

correct me if I'm wrong I might not remember it correctly

and fan of knives was used on 3+ target

[spice surge]

When you are playing bleed build you want to have CT up all the time at all target counts

!fok

[prisma monolith]

Fok Conditions Post-Buff
Fan of Knives as a generator to replace ambush/mutilate:

• Baseline 3+ targets, -1 if talented into momentum of despair and thrown precision, +1 if talented into vicious venoms, +1 if talented into blindside. (Generally 5 with raid build, 3 with Bleed m+, 2 with Hybrid m+)
  Fan of Knives with Clear the Witnesses Up:
• Baseline 2+ targets, -1 if lingering darkness is up or you aren't talented into vicious venoms. With Vicious Venoms casting during lingering darkness is dps neutral.
  Fan of Knives with Darkest Night Up:
• Only on 2+ targets, or without Vicious Venoms talented. This is also a very very minor optimization

The most important to remember is the generator rules, clear the witnesses and darkest night optimizations can be effectively ignored as they are not meaningful DPS improvements

[iron carbon]

Yep, but we already replied that

[round holly]

is there any point spreading doomblade around or its a loss because of caustic?

[spice surge]

No point, does literally no damage

[round holly]

sadge

[elfin flame]

guys whispyr just dropped a movie holy poggers

[golden loom]

Erm what the sigma!

[fallow canopy]

Why am I hearing the words "pumping your hot envenom loads" on a monday morning

[iron carbon]

Morning?

It's leggit 5pm

[thick sigil]

eey i also did a thing! (as fatebound)

[hexed root]

gg

[fallow canopy]

Morning for me. 10 am

[indigo epoch]

3 and a half hours long

Get rekt ben hurr

[golden loom]

alright fellas I am trying to adjust the height of the combo points do we have any weakaura savants that know how to do that?

[fossil loom]

!fok

[prisma monolith]

Fok Conditions Post-Buff
Fan of Knives as a generator to replace ambush/mutilate:

• Baseline 3+ targets, -1 if talented into momentum of despair and thrown precision, +1 if talented into vicious venoms, +1 if talented into blindside. (Generally 5 with raid build, 3 with Bleed m+, 2 with Hybrid m+)
  Fan of Knives with Clear the Witnesses Up:
• Baseline 2+ targets, -1 if lingering darkness is up or you aren't talented into vicious venoms. With Vicious Venoms casting during lingering darkness is dps neutral.
  Fan of Knives with Darkest Night Up:
• Only on 2+ targets, or without Vicious Venoms talented. This is also a very very minor optimization

The most important to remember is the generator rules, clear the witnesses and darkest night optimizations can be effectively ignored as they are not meaningful DPS improvements

[pastel roost]

It's 5pm for me too, but EU is not playing this game alone :p

[golden loom]

would kinda want it like this

[iron carbon]

Group position, you put a bit higher

Do a bigger screenshot of the first picture

[broken lynx]

WTF i just saw u cant rly farm crit mastery items from m+ on neck or rings what is this bullshit _D

[iron carbon]

Forgot us was -8 and not +

[golden loom]

this stuff?

[spice surge]

Then get some other neck, or craft

Doesnt matter at all

[iron carbon]

Yep

X offset

Put 10 for exemple

[golden loom]

that moves it to the right and Y moves it up and down

[iron carbon]

Y*

Yes

[golden loom]

but that just changes the position not the size

[iron carbon]

Oh

[golden loom]

like I wanna increase the height of the bar

[iron carbon]

You want to have it taller?

[golden loom]

ye

[iron carbon]

Show me the whole.page of group settings?

[golden loom]

and none of the display settings seem to change anything

[iron carbon]

I'm not home, I can't check myself

[white lance]

if its custom gotta edit the code i guess

[iron carbon]

Maybe in custom

You can setup height yes

[crimson sigil]

ty @balmy condor for the crazy guide!

[white lance]

THREE HOURS?!

oh im locked in

[lunar sonnet]

Check display tab, not group

[golden loom]

okay I found what I need to change but now where do I find this thingy

[lunar sonnet]

Oh

[winged sun]

sorry if we get nerfed next week

[hexed root]

under display tab

[winged sun]

50% more dps than every class

[terse reef]

We should be holding shiv to apply twice during all Kingsbane windows correct?

[lunar sonnet]

Does this have more written in it? Maybe an expand button

[hexed root]

shouldn't be same but different

[midnight mist]

open that part

its code

its a big block of code cuh

[tight ginkgo]

'acking?

[golden loom]

in which section? I am big noob

[hexed root]

what WA are you using?

[golden loom]

whispyrs

[hexed root]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[midnight mist]

litteraly where you took the screenshot

you select the cp grp

you have code at the top

[hexed root]

plater or afenar?

[midnight mist]

you can edit that code block

its afenar i got it dw

i made that cp part

[golden loom]

wait am I dumb

[midnight mist]

in grp

you have a code block

[golden loom]

OHHH

I seeeeeeee

thanks!

[midnight mist]

np cuh

[spice spire]

np cuh

[round holly]

do i use ambush during subterfuge window instead of mutilate?

[dawn kelp]

should I race change maghar cuh