assassination

[thorn thorn]

Bonespike gives you combo points when you apply rupture to stuff

[humble verge]

lol

[thorn thorn]

Has up to 3 charges

Im just a shit poster

[fallow canopy]

aren't we all

[open gulch]

How much of a dps loss would it be if tank is chain-pulling and not adding mobs for funnel on bosses ? Enough for considering sub dps wise in that scenario ?

[quasi ledge]

Ah yes thanks. Useful for council opener. Edit: sry im dump we dont bone spike in council

[fallow canopy]

!restealth

!stealth

fuck

[open gulch]

xd

[fallow canopy]

!chainpulling

[glacial lantern]

There are 3 main issues i have with sin rogue, downtime in st, bad pure st with m+ build, like really bad, and the way indisc carnage work and is positioned

[open gulch]

!vanish

[prisma monolith]

Vanish->Ambush during cooldowns with Darkest Night up has two main benefits:

• Getting more mark uptime by reapplying when it's down
• Consuming Darkest Night then puts you from 3 stacks of the mark down to 2 since the mark is already applied

As of September 13th with the Echoing Reprimand Fix, that second part is broken. Blizzard inadvertantly added a bug where you cannot consume mark stacks while darkest night is active. This will hopefully get resolved quickly as it is quite impactful. Until that time, you might want to consider taking improved garrote in your single target build (instead of 1 point of vicious venoms, or instead of improved poison). You do not have to do this, and if you would like to continue to play without improved garrote, you would simply hold onto your vanish in case you drop the mark. Once the bug is fixed you would go back to vanish->ambush.

[fallow canopy]

ok I don't remember the command

[open gulch]

oh

[thorn thorn]

If im debating anyone just assume 90% of my words are shit posting

[balmy condor]

!chainpull

[prisma monolith]

Explanation of why stealth benefits aren't as important as you might think:

• For starters, "Chain pulls" are NOT when the tank pulls a new pack with 1% hp remaining on the previous mobs. That is called "Bad Tanking", and it sucks for everyone in your party.
• Correct Chain pulls usually happen while the previous pack is still alive and not dangerous. This increases uptime on more targets, which is the biggest increase in DPS for the entire party. This is also the biggest reason why you see high key level players doing so much damage.
• Garrote is roughly 7-9% of people's damage in a key, most of which is already empowered/cleaved
• Most energy spreading will come from Rupture to maintain scent of blood, not garrote
• Without a Trace (+1 vanish charge) only grants roughly 2 additional casts across a whole dungeon, but does allow for holding vanish for large chain pulls which improves the quality of each vanish
• You can argue that it "feels bad", but numerically there is very little ground to stand on, the dps simply isn't there.

[haughty flicker]

[balmy condor]

close

[humble verge]

shes a fake gym girl tho, shes using baggy sweater and sweatpants @thorn thorn 🤨

[fallow canopy]

fuck

[balmy condor]

almost had it boli

[glacial lantern]

Im usually serious, unless i say something really stupid, and then im not serious

[clever sparrow]

fatebound or deathstalker?

[haughty flicker]

that command giga outdated damn

[open gulch]

@balmy condor @fallow canopy thanks guys

[thorn thorn]

Bro I stg if I see you on the news

Its jover for you

[balmy condor]

it's still fine

[open gulch]

is there a list of all ! commands ?

[balmy condor]

no

[humble verge]

nah im not that desperate

[open gulch]

sadge

[thorn thorn]

[harsh anchor]

idk bro, talking about seeing a womanout in public in the ravenholdt discord is sus af

[glacial lantern]

Wait, how are you gonna use indisc carnage properly if you're not able to go into stealth? Wouldn;'t that be a big deal in aoe, due to the energy regen, if nothing else

[thorn thorn]

[humble verge]

https://tenor.com/view/soobfad-druski-gif-25646977

[thorn thorn]

Vanish

Or you just manual multidot

[rain mortar]

I think the point is that you can still fairly quickly apply 5 ruptures even without IC

[thorn thorn]

And it feels like ass and is a bit slow

[glacial lantern]

Vanish is fine, but manual can take a lot i think

Of time that is

[thorn thorn]

Slow in comparison to IC that is

With some good fok rng in aoe it should only take a few globals to rupture 5 things

[glacial lantern]

Man, i really don't like the way indisc carnage works

[thorn thorn]

Im not super fond of it being tied to stealth either but

[glacial lantern]

Stealth windows are better for outlaw due to the massive cdr, there isn't really a moment where you don't have at least 1 vanish each pull

[rain mortar]

Just play NELF for the QoL. Probably not best but I swear to god they did something with meld recently that lets me get restealths off much easier in the middle of a pull

[latent verge]

What poisons to use as rogue TWW s3, bleed build

[thorn thorn]

Might be placebo

I always found meld to be like a coinflip if it actually works

[haughty flicker]

cant play nelf, stealth animation sucks

[glacial lantern]

The only way i can see this fixed for sin rogue is either significant cdr on vanish for sin rogue too, or probably a better way would be to change how it works

[thorn thorn]

Nothing will ever top the rezan meld incident though

[rain mortar]

I used to feel like way but feels as if I’m getting a proper restealth with it every time since 11.2 came up. More practice needed to be sure obviously

[glacial lantern]

Like, using crimson tempest gives you a buff for 10 seconds allowing you to hit multiple enemies with garrote/rapture

I also dislike how it's a capstone, like wtf?

[deft laurel]

hi im new to assa just leveling, but i keep finding the shiv macro only actually works about half the time im clicking it. Should this be working?

#showtooltip Shiv
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[thorn thorn]

I want to say in a very early iteration of it it was a 1.5m cd you pressed to get the effect

And in DF S3 they shifted it to a passive

And made it considerably less ass to use but also made a bit of a dilemma since it still effectively has a cd but only if you get stuck in combat

[glacial lantern]

I think the crimson tempest idea is pretty good

[rain mortar]

I do really like IC, but has some frustrations for sure. Sin in general a bit annoying to use vanish for offense so much tbh

[glacial lantern]

It also fits from a thematic point of view

[haughty flicker]

when it was a button it also only worked on like your next garrote and rupture only

instead of now where its long as fuck

[thorn thorn]

Yes

[slim jetty]

the fist rupture after stealth sometimes gives me full CP. but why? i cant locate the skillpoint.

[thorn thorn]

The CD version was omega cursed

[rain mortar]

Bonespike

[thorn thorn]

It was also in a pre-spatter timeline so literally your only aoe was bleeds and poison bomb

[glacial lantern]

Yea, it was not good

Splatter is insane aoe, just dislike the way it's applied

[brazen maple]

using the devlin weakaura set. what is this 2? i cant figure out for the life of me

[thorn thorn]

Spatter is an objectively strong way to do AOE

I just think its lame

Reminds me too much of link

[thorn thorn]

@white lance

[glacial lantern]

I actually loved sear for shadow priest, and would like to see a choice node back between link and sear

The spender version

Not the builder one

[thorn thorn]

I like Link I just dont like the balance problems that come with it

It literally has a dictionary of tuning notes

[glacial lantern]

Link for spread aoe at the cost of some dps loss compared to stacked sear aoe

[thorn thorn]

40% link is also kinda

Especialy when at some point recently it was 15%

[glacial lantern]

Not recently, that was dragonflight s2

[frank crag]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[thorn thorn]

Fuck that was 2 years ago

[white lance]

its targets in range

[brazen maple]

neat! thanks:D

[glacial lantern]

40 % link is very strong

[white lance]

can change settings in custom options:

[glacial lantern]

But s priest has been pretty bad in m+ for a majority of tww

It should be good now though

There's also been a small "rework"

More like changes

but pretty good ones

[thorn thorn]

It seems strong until you realize that currently link is the only actual aoe it has unless you are archon

Halo kind of counts

But VW just has link and rift

[glacial lantern]

Well, link is the majority of aoe for weaver too

[thorn thorn]

And ball

Ball is neat

I liked spatter a lot more when KB was better

[clever sparrow]

which hero talent is king rn?

[humble verge]

yarrgi blasting on ptr now but hes just him

[spice surge]

Fatebound ST deathstalker Aoe generally

[clever sparrow]

so which one we go for M+?

[buoyant herald]

Just get tier now KB better 😌

[clever sparrow]

also does fatebound have any difference with deathstalker in rotaton?

[thorn thorn]

[humble verge]

nvm theres another guy here now... smh 🙄

maybe i can ask to dui

duo

[zenith coral]

is it possible for 8/8 m0s? i cant find any tazavesh listed

[waxen oyster]

when do you ever go an st build in dungeons

[humble verge]

do eco 3 times

[brazen maple]

you have to run 2 of the ones you already have before

[zenith coral]

ahh kk ty

[humble verge]

you only get loot from 6 m0s now

[thorn thorn]

BRO

WHAT

[humble verge]

[clever sparrow]

when we have good aoe 😄

[marsh fjord]

No way you made a statement that is right

Improvement

😂😂😂

[fallow canopy]

character development

[humble verge]

wait wrong one

🙏

[spice surge]

[waxen oyster]

No one has gone a pure st build in dungeons

[split grail]

Question: Is FoK on 2+ targets just for the m+ build or any cleave

[glad vessel]

so uhhh i have little question i know ya'll are busy with chinese rabbits but
how the hell do u gurantee a lucky coin proc on the opener on assa? assuming u run fatebound cos of the tier set

[waxen oyster]

Why do people act like theres a massive st difference between builds anyway

[royal lantern]

^

[thorn thorn]

Go to the corner and think about what you have posted

[buoyant herald]

Balancing so good that we now consider a 5% deficit unplayably behind smh

[waxen oyster]

People out here doing weekly keys and thinking

that a boss dying 10s earlier

makes a difference

[humble verge]

yes

[waxen oyster]

Most players who jerk off sim numbers cant even play at 80% capability

[humble verge]

for my m+ score ❗ ❗ ❗ ❗ ❗ ❗ ❗ ❗

[marsh fjord]

Why we talking about a 5%? i went to wowhead and see if we got nerfed you scared me man

[waxen oyster]

I’m gonna be honest most m+ mains I’ve seen

dont know how to do damage

and act like a focus kick macro is 100iq

[buoyant herald]

Exactly man, I’ve got WAY more variance pull to pull than the sim dif between specs let alone builds

[cyan lily]

!macro

[prisma monolith]

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[waxen oyster]

This is like boomkin player mentality

hold cds for bosses for 5mins

do tank damage on packs

“but my boss dps”

[thorn thorn]

@humble verge new copy pasta dropped

[astral current]

!builds

[prisma monolith]

Bleed vs Hybrid vs Cleave/FI builds
Broad rules and Section in Guide:

1. If you have to ask, you should play bleed
2. If you're not doing +20's or higher, you should play bleed
3. Even if you're doing higher, you should probably play bleed
4. No, Fatebound is not good, you play Deathstalker in every key.

Some general concepts as to why people play different things:

• 11.2/Season 3: Bleed has gotten stronger through some buffs and the single target damage you get from singular focus is ridiculously good with the tier set. During PTR testing many high end rogues were just playing bleed everywhere.
• Ease of play: Bleed build is simply the easiest to play due to subterfuge/no kingsbane/less need for giant prio targets
• Boss damage: The cleave build is mainly for boss damage (note: not prio, there is no significant difference in prio). Assa single target in keys is pretty bad, and some bosses during season 2 were not possible on high keys otherwise. It remains to be seen what push keys in Season 3 will bring in that regard.
• Specific Dungeons: Rookery as an example is very boss-heavy, especially the last boss, making bleed less ideal. Rookery is not in the rotation in Season 3, and there are a lot of AoE dungeons. Dawnbreaker might be a candidate, but unsure currently.
• Where the damage is: Bleed spreads out its damage and does great overall due to sudden demise and powerful 3-8 target damage. Hybrid is competitve but doesn't pull ahead outside of low target cleave and higher target AoE. Cleave is for single target damage and insanely large aoe because of how much caustic and crimson tempest carry aoe damage. At the end of the day, the builds are extremely similar, but Bleed is looking to simply be the best.

[waxen oyster]

Honestly the bot command should just say

If you need to read this play bleed

[humble verge]

you wanna know, i almost got title in s1 without focus macro and focustarget wa that marks targets

[waxen oyster]

Yeah its almost like

m+ isnt hard content

[humble verge]

only at the too

top

the only struggle is honestly

your tank surviving what hes pulling

and his healer keeping up

[waxen oyster]

i honestly respect

[humble verge]

we just have to dodge

[waxen oyster]

consistent pvp title players

[humble verge]

and stop taking damage

[waxen oyster]

more than m+ titles

[humble verge]

while doing dps

[thorn thorn]

The only challenge is roster boss

[humble verge]

real

[thorn thorn]

A similar ish problem to raid where you have lower skilled players dropping the capability of the group

[humble verge]

also real

[thorn thorn]

Except in M+ there are only 5 people instead of 20

[humble verge]

my guild mage

[thorn thorn]

So 1 shit player can end up making a bigger difference

Even tho keys arent hard until like 17+

[waxen oyster]

Uhh

season 2 aug

[humble verge]

1 shit player can continue to wipe guilds

[thorn thorn]

Only for one season

[waxen oyster]

Almost every vdh player in s3

who played last resort+scales

was dog

[thorn thorn]

True

[waxen oyster]

like imagine wiping the same pull for hours

with 2 cheat deaths

[humble verge]

icl

season 1 aug

only 2 augs of the fotm groups i was in

used that defensive hover

[thorn thorn]

Which one

The avoidance one for SC?

[humble verge]

there is only 1 DEFENSIVE hover they have

[thorn thorn]

Oh for Chronowarden

[humble verge]

beside the hover which makes them able to dps while walking

yes

[thorn thorn]

Yea you didnt play Chronowarden Aug in S1

[humble verge]

you did thi

[haughty flicker]

he might just mean zephyr

[humble verge]

tho

[haughty flicker]

and not know words

[humble verge]

zephyr yea

i forgotcthe name

[thorn thorn]

Zephyr yes

They should all have been playing SC in S1

Cuz CW was tuned omega crap and the set bonus was better for SC

[waxen oyster]

I mean m+ers play the most cooked shit

[haughty flicker]

yeah but zephyr is just in class tree, either hero talent takes it

[waxen oyster]

is something i noticed

[haughty flicker]

maybe he just played with bad augs

[thorn thorn]

If your evoker doesnt take Zephyr for M+ kick them from the party

I jest

Mostly

[waxen oyster]

outlaw players who played deeper stratagem

instead of mfd

for example

[haughty flicker]

ok tbf

mfd sniping was kind of annoying

so i can understand not wanting to do that

[thorn thorn]

Streamers and data aggregation sites tbh

But some of them homebrew their builds

[waxen oyster]

mfd sniping is fun

[thorn thorn]

And the builds are so bad

[waxen oyster]

also yoda playing thane prot war

[thorn thorn]

Its like they make an effort to avoid the good talents

[waxen oyster]

when colossus was better

[humble verge]

they all had zephyr, just never used it

[waxen oyster]

well yeah they’re aug players

[humble verge]

https://fxtwitter.com/blephin_/status/1954598213190926336?t=-4ThKVvpfubggrz9Ksfk8g&s=19 we got called out

hydra (@blephin_)

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[waxen oyster]

i had an aug in a pug raid not talent bleed dispel once

so i just

macroed cancelaura ebon might and prescience

to every spell

[humble verge]

ahhahahha

[haughty flicker]

based though

i dont play aug to have utility i play to do dps

[humble verge]

i wonder if you could mass dispell ebon might

[thorn thorn]

So fucking based

[humble verge]

honestly

the only good augs ive had

were russians

icl

[thorn thorn]

If they dont do utility gaslight them into thinking they are shit

So far I have found zero competent augs in the wild

[humble verge]

when i was doing 4/8 nerub on my dk

[thorn thorn]

And it annoys me because when I play aug I cant get groups that are decent and I end up top for overall on logs

[humble verge]

they used the uh grab thingt ability

since i had no DA

[thorn thorn]

Rescue

[humble verge]

@thorn thorn i left without kidnapping her 😔

[thorn thorn]

???

brother

why you gotta say it like that

[humble verge]

🥀

is jus me

[golden roost]

How are you guys doing with the ?? Kyveza challenge

[haughty flicker]

[drifting cedar]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[humble verge]

now im breaking da law

[astral current]

i just needed hybrid but was too lazy to open wowhead

[thorn thorn]

[deep gyro]

i need help, I only have half a spark. Who am i supposed to talk to for the other half? the cata guy?

[astral current]

do the theatre

[marsh fjord]

gotta drop down your pants and do the helicopter dance

[deep gyro]

that is how i usually play the game

[waxen oyster]

bleed is better

[haughty flicker]

bleed dn

[deep gyro]

will try it out

[haughty flicker]

actually no please dont

[humble verge]

you can get them from delves too if ure not 8/8 vault

[astral current]

for m+ - definitely, however for skipping whole delve and just killing last boss hybrid build prevail
i'd suggest you to ask questions first and stop making preliminary conclusions

[deep gyro]

i already have ran delves up to 11. and have not gotten an extra one

[haughty flicker]

[marsh fjord]

You can play the fuck you ever want in delves man

why you worrying so much

Its content made for the casual

[spice surge]

Not even sure thats true tbf

About hybrid killing the last boss faster

[marsh fjord]

I just go bleed to kill everythign that i need. change to fatebound ST spec and kill the boss in 30 seconds

[humble verge]

dang

[astral current]

xd im chill asf mate

[mild tiger]

is assa gettng nerfed

buddy told me its bugged

[marsh fjord]

Then dont talk smack to xian my homie bro

[mild tiger]

i cant find anything bout it

[astral current]

we just got buffed not that long ago

[deep gyro]

usually when u get one you get a quest taht gives u the otehr but i don't see it or have it

[zenith coral]

do ALL M0s give 681 now?

[marsh fjord]

Genuine qeustion: how would we know if its getting nerfed?

[zenith coral]

TWW

[desert spire]

!WA

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[astral current]

i didnt say anything aggressive

[drifting cloud]

no just the ones in season rotation

[zenith coral]

f ty

[thorn thorn]

Yea very chill

Im sure

[marsh fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/kek-cat-kek-cat-laugh-laughing-gif-25202548

[thorn thorn]

You are numbers guy

You should know

[marsh fjord]

Yes

[thorn thorn]

So when is it getting nerfed

And by how much

[marsh fjord]

CT nerf by 20% and 10% envenom buff

[thorn thorn]

Big

[marsh fjord]

Also deathstalker tier set buffed bij 40%

[deep gyro]

goated ❤️

[thorn thorn]

Any KB buff in there somewhere

[marsh fjord]

so we are all doomed to follow marks

[thorn thorn]

Or is KB still doomed

[astral current]

since when having an opinion started to be aggressive form of conversation

[strange python]

!build

[thorn thorn]

Consider learning how to use better phrasing if you are going to advertise yourself as chill

[humble verge]

mutilate only delve challenge

[thorn thorn]

!builds

[prisma monolith]

Bleed vs Hybrid vs Cleave/FI builds
Broad rules and Section in Guide:

1. If you have to ask, you should play bleed
2. If you're not doing +20's or higher, you should play bleed
3. Even if you're doing higher, you should probably play bleed
4. No, Fatebound is not good, you play Deathstalker in every key.

Some general concepts as to why people play different things:

• 11.2/Season 3: Bleed has gotten stronger through some buffs and the single target damage you get from singular focus is ridiculously good with the tier set. During PTR testing many high end rogues were just playing bleed everywhere.
• Ease of play: Bleed build is simply the easiest to play due to subterfuge/no kingsbane/less need for giant prio targets
• Boss damage: The cleave build is mainly for boss damage (note: not prio, there is no significant difference in prio). Assa single target in keys is pretty bad, and some bosses during season 2 were not possible on high keys otherwise. It remains to be seen what push keys in Season 3 will bring in that regard.
• Specific Dungeons: Rookery as an example is very boss-heavy, especially the last boss, making bleed less ideal. Rookery is not in the rotation in Season 3, and there are a lot of AoE dungeons. Dawnbreaker might be a candidate, but unsure currently.
• Where the damage is: Bleed spreads out its damage and does great overall due to sudden demise and powerful 3-8 target damage. Hybrid is competitve but doesn't pull ahead outside of low target cleave and higher target AoE. Cleave is for single target damage and insanely large aoe because of how much caustic and crimson tempest carry aoe damage. At the end of the day, the builds are extremely similar, but Bleed is looking to simply be the best.

[strange python]

thanks

everyone playing bleed right now in M+ then?

[marsh fjord]

yes

[astral current]

well, in east EU those words wouldnt really be such a bad thing
im sorry if i've offenden any1

[marsh fjord]

Did you mabye realise that his server is world wide and not east european?

[astral current]

being straightforward is kinda usual thing here

[thorn thorn]

[astral current]

yeah definitely, however that's kinda funny that grown people cant take just words online

[marsh fjord]

[marsh fjord]

I mean i can def take it. i was just merely joking.

[astral current]

my bad, language barrier it seems

[thorn thorn]

@marsh fjord Where KB buffs

[marsh fjord]

Coming right in son

[thorn thorn]

Im waiting

[marsh fjord]

Typing my essay to them right now

[astral current]

what's the thing with kb
is it still bugged?

[thorn thorn]

Ya

Still bugged with Fatebound

[marsh fjord]

Kb isnt bugged the 2p is

[mild tiger]

idk, I actually just game and never care aboitu stuff outside the game, dont check patch notes and anything so I thought I might have missed something

[marsh fjord]

Nah you havent missed anything mate.

the extra duration on the 2p wasnt added on the PTR sadly

[tawdry thunder]

Hi guys new to rogue and I am trying to decide what spec is best to play for my M+ group this season. We are tentatively looking at playing rogue, arcane mage, and frost DK as our dps comp. I have heard playing 2 funnel specs like Assasination Rogue and Arcane mage can be bad. Would I be better off playing outlaw in this situation? What do you guys think?

[marsh fjord]

Nah because assa has insane aoe also

but i def see your point of having 2 funnels. but that doesnt really matter a lot. i've seen many high keys with arcane mage/assa rogue and its completely fine.

[tawdry thunder]

Thanks for the quick response

I appreciate the information

[marsh fjord]

No worries. thats then 200 euros

You can paypal me

[thorn thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/powerslap-slap-ko-knockout-slap-huge-slap-big-slap-gif-7471918422486227772

Here

[tawdry thunder]

xD

[marsh fjord]

Blizzard on the right, assa on the left

smacking those nerfs

[thorn thorn]

Transferred from BSTF currency

Also known as, Bitch Slap to The Face

[marsh fjord]

good currency

[thorn thorn]

Very good currency

[mild tiger]

i see, thank you

[oblique kiln]

fatebound best atm?

[thorn thorn]

@humble verge

If you cannot defeat Kyveza, do not bother showing up to raid. This boss is a baseline mechanics check. If you cannot handle mechanics while maintaining a strong DPS or HPS rotation, you will only drag the group down on the harder fights ahead.

This is not optional. This is not "just a warm-up boss." This is the fight that tells us whether you can balance your gameplay fundamentals aka: awareness, movement, uptime, and performance but all at once. If you fail here, you will fail later.

If you can't be bothered to put in the hours to grind this fight, you are disrespecting the other 26 players on this roster who are putting in the work. This is a preparatory fight for a multi-week raid, and it requires commitment. If you can't commit now, you won't commit later.

You all said you wanted to improve as a raid and get a better ranking. That doesn't start with someone else carrying you, it starts with you improving your own gameplay. If you can't do that, you're dead weight. And yes, I'm talking to you, you slug.

And before anyone even thinks about saying, "my class isn't designed for this encounter" fucking save it. I've seen hundreds of Chinese VODs of Kyveza beaten on every single spec and every single hero talent combination possible. The fight is beatable. The capability exists. The only difference between them and you is execution and effort.

So here's the bottom line: Beat Kyveza before raid night, or don't show up.

[thorn thorn]

For raw ST

[deep gyro]

is a +7 delve a heroic piece in vault?

[balmy condor]

+8

+7 is champ

[haughty flicker]

wtf this is like twice as long as the first version i saw

we're going too far

[waxen oyster]

yeah its called playing sub

[oblique kiln]

oh wait theres a button that plays the game for me now

[haughty flicker]

ye its sick

[humble verge]

im yellow, u are pink

[thorn thorn]

Nah bro

Im him

[marsh fjord]

calm before the storm

[humble verge]

honestly

i wanna gear a devoke

r

[thorn thorn]

do it

[hot pasture]

best build to kill kyveza its vv with dt no?

[balmy condor]

Fatebound probably more damage

But that’s fine

Deathstalker is good enough

[runic hinge]

one button kyveza or else

[haughty flicker]

ironically probably would help a lot of people

[rain mortar]

i should probably know this answer, and i think I do, but in week 1 before tier set you still think its fatebound for ST right?

[balmy condor]

Yes, fb is currently 5-7% better for people in ST

[frigid pilot]

@balmy condor thanks for the talent build boss https://youtu.be/oorb1BoCiZc?si=kcpqMHap5f9BKgA4

[balmy condor]

Nice

[bold oracle]

wait, just came back for new season

no kingsbane anymore for m+?

[long hawk]

Bleed build blasting

[bold oracle]

whats the mechanic for this new build?

just standard rotation without caring about kingsbane?

[long hawk]

Bleed everything and big numba yes

[rain mortar]

wait am in insane or is this assa bvut says trickster?

[nova kelp]

What else would change? No kB. Don't use kB.

[bold oracle]

we use every ambush proc if possible?

[severe silo]

!macro

[prisma monolith]

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[frigid pilot]

The non deathstalker spec I’m on 2 hours of sleep xD

Uhhhhhh

[rain mortar]

ohhh okay haha nice - awesome kill

[frigid pilot]

What’s it called again lol

[nova kelp]

Cringe coin flipper

[frigid pilot]

What’s cringe about this boss and coins is they reset when she disappears

[long hawk]

You don’t lose anything from not using it if the packs big enough, might as well continue fok

Brings you to max cp anyways

[frigid pilot]

Sometimes I had to refresh it on branns egg

[slim ingot]

Probably been asked here before but what's the word on Bubbling Wax vs Whetstones?

[granite sentinel]

~ equal

[bold oracle]

and we still mutilate to keep caustic splatter up for the bleed build?

[long hawk]

You can play the build without caustic but if you are yes

[slim ingot]

ty for info

[spice surge]

Yes

[bold oracle]

ok thanks guys

damn, kingsbane window was challenging these seasons

now it feels like a breeze

[long hawk]

Singular boss damage sucks tho

Need adds to funnel into the boss

So you’ll lose some boss damage if tank doesn’t do that

[bold oracle]

yeah i just watched Casualaddict Eco Dome run and they played every boss with adds

[thorn thorn]

Usually if you have a funnel spec thats the plan

[cyan lily]

!macro

[prisma monolith]

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[humble verge]

@balmy condor why are we pre-shivving cds on fb? over than just using the usual dm>shiv>kb and then shiv at 8s left?
is it cause were not talented into supercharger anymore and using cb?

[balmy condor]

buff flips

[humble verge]

ohol

ok

[weary spear]

Also

What rating do we get mount this season and catalyst

[balmy condor]

same as last season

[humble verge]

no..

whats the chance for a "lucky fatebound coin"

[balmy condor]

50/50 without tier

100% with tier

[scarlet orbit]

Whispyr is it intended in the wowhead guide that when you select fatebound in the singletarget rotation it uses talents not recommended in the singletarget build from the guide?
Also that it loses any vanish useage line when unchecking them?

[lethal swallow]

What's today's vid on @timber pagoda ...I'm trying to avoid work

[balmy condor]

there's some stuff that's wrong, yes

[balmy condor]

everything

but it isn't gonna be out until later I'm afraid

[normal mist]

Thanks for the work my man, gonna listen to it once its out

[lethal swallow]

Haha, all good. TY

[ebon glade]

dose asassination good with single target talent now ?

[balmy condor]

good compared to what

it's always been good

[ebon glade]

wasnt the best in s2

[balmy condor]

it was well above average

🥀

not top 5 spec = shit

unlucky

[maiden sierra]

if youre not first you might as well be last

[cedar grail]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[bold oracle]

we use crimsom tempest in m+ for bosses?

if its just the boss

[balmy condor]

in bleed build yes

[bold oracle]

ty

[hybrid holly]

will the opener in m+ change once 4 piece comes into play? Because if you open with ambush for DS mark then rupture, tempest, envenom you proc the mark and shiv wouldnt have a mark proc to consume

or is the optimization negligible

[balmy condor]

it won't

avoiding the mark proc on shiv is a single target thing

in AoE you're so swamped in energy and finishers regardless of what you do

[winged sun]

In real m+ im afraid you’ll shiv with darkest night up very often good luck everyone embrace the cringe gameplay

[balmy condor]

that it doesn't matter

[winged sun]

Because if u dont the pack is gonna die and u wont have time to pad otherwise

[balmy condor]

the mark moving is like such a whatever part of the tier in aoe

super doesn't matter

you get so much fucking value from the 2 piece

[winged sun]

Keeping mark up is definitely gonna be as important as it is for sub if not more

[balmy condor]

getting +1 mark stack

[winged sun]

Its super op

[glacial lantern]

@humble verge S priest is good in s3, but it was pretty bad in s1/2 for m+

[balmy condor]

is like who cares

[winged sun]

Ye it does totally feel like that in real gameplay too

Impossible to play around the mark consume thing sometimes but its quite good in most cases

Bleed build is omega destroying m+

Its possibly the strongest spec in all of m+ atm

Stronger than mage but we’ll see how long that’ll last

[humble verge]

yea ik

but then again, they were fotm in DF

[winged sun]

Spriest will have to be played in high keys

Otherwise it’ll stay dead

Its played abit rn but idk might be just hyped up

I could be wrong tho didnt look much into ptr

[balmy condor]

yeh not surprised, trying to play around one tiny mark hit sounds insano cringe tbh

[winged sun]

Its worth to shiv while DN up just to consume it early

Thats how it felt for me in some cases

Just to unlock things mark does

[balmy condor]

yeh

in single target you want to avoid doing that

like raid encounters and stuff

[winged sun]

Ye for sure

[balmy condor]

sim APL is updated to not waste that part of the tier

but in aoe it's whatever

[winged sun]

In st u wont end up in weird situations

[balmy condor]

exactly

[hoary remnant]

How bad for fatebound is one extra add during a fight?

Like how much are we losing in st?

[zenith coral]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[haughty flicker]

your computer explodes i think

[hoary remnant]

but how much does it explode?

Just a bit or whole house

?

😄

[tawdry halo]

your house and half the street

[meager prism]

Sometimes sacrifices need to be made

[peak helm]

Is the loot that will drop from the M+ Tazavesh dungeons different from the loot that will come from the hard mode dng?

Wow head shows this ring as BiS for Assa: https://www.wowhead.com/item=185840/seal-of-the-panoply?bonus=657:12052:5877:10390:12361:12053
But then I look at the dng journal for Tazavesh it shows this one instead:

[balmy condor]

@haughty flicker

you told me the wrong fucking ring

[haughty flicker]

[balmy condor]

put your cock on the table bud

I'm inventing new gender-affirming surgery

[peak helm]

[balmy condor]

I'll add it to the list of other miscellaneous shit I need to fix

[peak helm]

Big fat haste ring didn't seem like a good one for us so wanted to check

[haughty flicker]

im gonna say they changed it

and blame blizzard

[balmy condor]

oh I couldn't give a shit about that

[haughty flicker]

because i would never make a mistake

[balmy condor]

I'm just gonna swap out the ring with the other ring

[peak helm]

LOL

gottem

[balmy condor]

secondary stats are fake as shit

who cares

[peak helm]

But what about my .0003% dps

[hoary remnant]

Your running with so much stats

Even the cloak enchant sims like 5k difference between best and worse

So it's w/e

[strange python]

Does the whispyr plater still make the targets bar w/ deathmark purple, green for CS and blue with both? Mine doesn't seem to be working

[balmy condor]

yesn't

it still does that

[tranquil lynx]

what might be the cause for my spatter to be so low

[balmy condor]

but because of color blindness and NPC name coloring in M+

the colors had to be adjusted

so it's uh

white with the deathstalker mark

and like a tan/brown with caustic and mark

like this

green for only caustic

[oblique kiln]

the wowhead guide says take numbing over atrophic for pve fatebound?

[shy creek]

you did not press mutilate every 10s

[balmy condor]

for m+ or raid

[oblique kiln]

raid

[balmy condor]

[strange python]

It works! - thanks. For some reason not on target dummies though

[raw marlin]

Mine also doesn’t work.

[balmy condor]

I FUCKING FIXED THATAAAAAAAAAAAA

[tranquil lynx]

but my mutilate damage is high?

[balmy condor]

[shy creek]

Are your poisons on

[balmy condor]

wdym doesn't work on target dummies

[tranquil lynx]

Yes

[balmy condor]

I legit just hit it 30 seconds ago

[haughty flicker]

wait

its not my fault

blizzard did change it

[balmy condor]

idk, I'm uploading a new version in like 30 minutes

maybe that fixes it

[haughty flicker]

it was seal in shadowlands and in the dungeon journal until they updated it

[balmy condor]

[haughty flicker]

now its ring

[tranquil lynx]

Whispyr what do u think

what might be the cause for my noob dmg

[haughty flicker]

@balmy condor grind blizzards dick off not mine

[balmy condor]

I try my best to avoid thinking

[raw marlin]

Skill.

[tranquil lynx]

i want to figure out why spatter is so low

[balmy condor]

too much multidotting, not pressing mut, being stupid with darkest night

any number of shit idfk

logs or it didn't happen

[raw marlin]

Which is all skill.

[tranquil lynx]

probably too much mutlidotting

[raw marlin]

Do good damage = good skill.
Do bad damage = less skill
Do no damage = Loop

[tranquil lynx]

is there any short video that explains spatter

i cant really watch 1hour guide

[peak helm]

Whispyr was supposed to make one I thought...

[balmy condor]

apply poison, apply rupture, press mutilate, now you have spatter

hit that mob with anything that does nature damage

[tranquil lynx]

that i know

[balmy condor]

envenoms, kingsbane

hero talent shit

fatebound coins

literally everything

[tranquil lynx]

but what i try to do is

[balmy condor]

and it splashes

gg done

[tranquil lynx]

i rotate between targets

and apply shit ton on them

and make sure all debuffs are on

[balmy condor]

yeah that's troll

[tranquil lynx]

i have that zac UI

[balmy condor]

stop that

[tranquil lynx]

so what should i do instead

[balmy condor]

hit the mob that has caustic?

[tranquil lynx]

focus on 3 4 targets only?

[balmy condor]

no, you just spread your bleeds from stealth

[tranquil lynx]

Yes

[balmy condor]

and then just fucking smash the shit out of the mob you have marked

[tranquil lynx]

but after 20seconds i need to reapply and sometimes ther eis no vanish

[balmy condor]

spread a couple ruptures for scent/energy and go back to smashing the shit out of your marked target

[tranquil lynx]

i watched some shenanigans that its more dmg to garrote swap target garrote rupture swap rupture ambush multi blabla

[balmy condor]

realistically mobs are kinda dead by then

don't spread unempowered garrotes

spread garrotes from stealth or not at all

[tranquil lynx]

ye i talk about opening

cuz 1 -3 and if repeat its 2

but if swap its more

[balmy condor]

don't swap in your opener

[tranquil lynx]

or so i think i understood

[balmy condor]

I mean it is but you aren't really getting anything out of it

just stick to your target

[tranquil lynx]

hmm okay i will try

[balmy condor]

you play outlaw yes?

[tranquil lynx]

Yes

[balmy condor]

okay

imagine that even time you tab to a different target

the game toggles off blade flurry

[tranquil lynx]

oh shit

[balmy condor]

that's basically what you're doing

[tranquil lynx]

so u just do couple low cp ruptures for energy

and focus 1

[balmy condor]

they don't have to be low cp

they should be high cp

but yes

rupture is there to give you agi% from scent of blood

and energy from venomous wounds

and that's it

[tawdry halo]

get yourself a mouseover macro or something if you're worried about swapping targets and gimping your caustic

[balmy condor]

you get some damage out of it, but you don't need to babysit your ruptures or force garrote on cooldown or something

[tranquil lynx]

im using scroll button to swap targets

its very convenient

okay will see how it goes

thanks for the tips and wasting ur time

[supple ether]

Best race for assa in m+ ?

[balmy condor]

https://wago.io/t6bI_B9wi go ahead and get a new version and tell me if your problems persist

[tranquil lynx]

dwarf

[haughty flicker]

plater update

[jaunty sky]

Gnome

[balmy condor]

wa update soon too

the darkest night CP color is fucking me over though

colorblind-friendly stuff is rough

[normal mist]

I dont really know how to work with plater, i downloaded yours a few months ago and never touched it again. does it update alone or should i manually do it?

[nova kelp]

Gota update yourself

[balmy condor]

if you have the companion app you can update from there, otherwise need a thingy

like I'm scared red/green blind people are gonna be fucked over by this

but it was fine for my dad

and he's red/green color blind

so idk

[nova kelp]

DW about it

[balmy condor]

humans are weird

[nova kelp]

Skill issue

Lol

[weary pebble]

i got this afenar WA but for some reason i cant stop looking at my normal combo points on the blizzard frame

and just never look at the WA :p

[tranquil lynx]

Does weapons play big factor dmg wise in dot build

[nova kelp]

I miss afenars WA's
I love that sensei whispyr has taken over the sin one. But I was a die hard afenar enjoyer

[weary pebble]

i think weapon dps affects all damage incl dots

[humble verge]

actual autism

[balmy condor]

I miss that guy

he got banned from here like a year ago

[humble verge]

lol

for what

[nova kelp]

That is actually terrorism
Is that why?

[bronze pike]

he should come back

[humble verge]

nah moneymaking

[bronze pike]

trade him for xaes alt that he uses to lurk here

[balmy condor]

he was the most filter-hitter the server had ever seen and bashed devs constantly and just was unpleasant

[haughty flicker]

finally a use for that report option

[balmy condor]

eventually it was just too much

[weary pebble]

that guy just proves not to do tazavesh with randoms 😛

[humble verge]

no wonder he suggest terrorist type of MMM

[balmy condor]

we banned that one recently too

[tranquil lynx]

I remember when i was 5 in 2.4.3 i stay outside orgirmmar begging for gold 🤣

[nova kelp]

Ah gutted. That makes sense. I usually just assume people stopped playing and thus stop appearing in the disc

[balmy condor]

there's been a couple loud-bans

hataro in off topic, soviet here

[weary pebble]

so euhm, what should the single target dps be on a dummy using the FB build from wowhead with ivll ~680 mostly crit/mastery

[balmy condor]

etc

[weary pebble]

i feel like im doing something wrong

[balmy condor]

quick sim yourself

and compare to that

[tranquil lynx]

How do you sim im curious

[nova kelp]

Comparing a Sim to a target dummy actual use case is WEIRD

[balmy condor]

!simguide

[prisma monolith]

Guide to Simming yourself: https://www.wowhead.com/how-to-use-raidbots-sims-stat-weights

For more accurate results you should always sim yourself using Top Gear for gear you already have in your bags
or Droptimizer to see which content drops the biggest upgrade for you. Do not use Stat Weights sims to evaluate gear.

[weary pebble]

i donno how to sim

[balmy condor]

that's what the command is for

[nova kelp]

Like you gotta remove buffs but also be fighting an immortal target that stays in execute phase for 4:45 of 5 mins

[humble verge]

😔 im yet to get a response fron any of my job apps

[weary pebble]

alrigt thanks @balmy condor lemme give it a shot 😛

[humble verge]

but then again

[nova kelp]

BRO I feel this one so bad

Here have some fucking SHIFT WORK

Please sir can I have the 9-5 I need my soul to die to retain my routine

[raw marlin]

LOL @potent turret

[potent turret]

BRUH GO TO FUCKING BED

PAST YOUR BEDTIME

[tranquil lynx]

I heard the sim is not accurate for the bleed build is that still the case

[balmy condor]

that's never been the case

[raw marlin]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[nova kelp]

Please don't be rude to the robot

[haughty flicker]

fuck the robot

god i hate clankers

[balmy condor]

fuckass cogmunchers

[potent turret]

yea fuck @raw marlin

[nova kelp]

Clanker is friend

[tranquil lynx]

I literally watched 1hour guide for assa from a top player and he said that

[nova kelp]

Friends are not food

[raw marlin]

Ohh whisppy updated yay

[humble verge]

i just want the state job i applied for, hella benefits

[balmy condor]

okay well I literally make the sims and I said no

[nova kelp]

...oh... Fuck... Here we go again

[tranquil lynx]

Okay

[raw marlin]

Plot twist. He watched you.

[haughty flicker]

of course you'd say no

[weary pebble]

top players arent always the best at maths

[raw marlin]

Who did you watch?

[balmy condor]

patchwerk AOE sims are cooked

and they've always been that

cause it's a dumbfuck way to sim

so it's not supported

[tranquil lynx]

Shindigg

[balmy condor]

(its much closer this patch so it's not full troll cause I caved and fixed some stuff)

[raw marlin]

🤔

[nova kelp]

Nooooooo shindig is cooler than this!

[balmy condor]

but complaining about sims being inaccurate on patchwerk aoe is just stupid

[potent turret]

https://tenor.com/view/mapache-pedro-gif-7206648027763736533

[weary pebble]

quick sim my ass btw, its been loading for 2 mins already

[tranquil lynx]

I will find the exact stamp time

[raw marlin]

So in that shindig video he didn’t say sims didn’t work at all. He said one of the talents aren’t. Maybe FI or something for some weird ass random build.

[nova kelp]

Probably a LOT of people running Sims ATM tbh

Oh it might have been filmed a bit ago and just released now

[raw marlin]

Shindigs is like a month old

[weary pebble]

its a few months old actually, that video

[raw marlin]

Yh knew it was a single talent. I think this is true nah? As bleed does aim lower than we acruelly do in dslicd ?

[nova kelp]

Hmmmmm... I feel like there could be a handful of communication/translation issues here

[raw marlin]

Typing on phone. Fuck it.

[tranquil lynx]

Thats why i asked if thats still the case

[haughty flicker]

sims dont account for the execute from sudden demise yes

[potent turret]

go sleep

[balmy condor]

that's not incorrect, that's just how that works

[raw marlin]

south.

[potent turret]

I got that faster than you

[buoyant herald]

Well yeah sims couldn’t possibly allow for that execute damage so yea technically assa will be “missing” damage from those sims

But I ask you

[slow snow]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[buoyant herald]

Who gives a fuck

[raw marlin]

YO MOMMA

[buoyant herald]

What does it tell you or not tell you

[haughty flicker]

i do

[buoyant herald]

What would you change with that forbidden knowledge

[haughty flicker]

[raw marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/esé-shut-your-mouth-ese-ese-step-brothers-stepbrothers-gif-7658779060146686357

[potent turret]

[buoyant herald]

Would you play sub instead because their dslice sims are higher

[raw marlin]

Yeah

[potent turret]

higher number = better ?

[buoyant herald]

I actually don’t have a response to that lol

Follow your heart I guess

[tawdry halo]

sim environment = in game reality fr fr

higher number always better

[potent turret]

ez

[raw marlin]

😂😂 fair. But if sub starts doing 20% more than sin. I swap. ✌🏻

99% of people do

[haughty flicker]

i only ever play what sims highest no matter what

unless its outlaw

[tranquil lynx]

Which youtuber should i watch for most accurate information

On assa

[raw marlin]

I’m a rogue. Not a sin rogue specifically

[buoyant herald]

That’s fair but should be based on reality rather than sims still

[potent turret]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-the-office-sad-steve-carrel-gif-6504535541019570333

[weary pebble]

do they? i dont think so 😛

[raw marlin]

Shindig and whisper and also… yoda 😂

[potent turret]

yoda sucks

[raw marlin]

yodafotraidbuff

[dawn seal]

are we not playing kb on deathstalker atm

[potent turret]

one little buff to some spec > NEW UPDATED TIER LIST

[raw marlin]

Sometimes maybe food. Sometimes maybe shit.

[tranquil lynx]

Wait whisper have youtube? Time to watch then

[potent turret]

Thats how he works

gotta milk it

[errant sinew]

!builds

[prisma monolith]

Bleed vs Hybrid vs Cleave/FI builds
Broad rules and Section in Guide:

1. If you have to ask, you should play bleed
2. If you're not doing +20's or higher, you should play bleed
3. Even if you're doing higher, you should probably play bleed
4. No, Fatebound is not good, you play Deathstalker in every key.

Some general concepts as to why people play different things:

• 11.2/Season 3: Bleed has gotten stronger through some buffs and the single target damage you get from singular focus is ridiculously good with the tier set. During PTR testing many high end rogues were just playing bleed everywhere.
• Ease of play: Bleed build is simply the easiest to play due to subterfuge/no kingsbane/less need for giant prio targets
• Boss damage: The cleave build is mainly for boss damage (note: not prio, there is no significant difference in prio). Assa single target in keys is pretty bad, and some bosses during season 2 were not possible on high keys otherwise. It remains to be seen what push keys in Season 3 will bring in that regard.
• Specific Dungeons: Rookery as an example is very boss-heavy, especially the last boss, making bleed less ideal. Rookery is not in the rotation in Season 3, and there are a lot of AoE dungeons. Dawnbreaker might be a candidate, but unsure currently.
• Where the damage is: Bleed spreads out its damage and does great overall due to sudden demise and powerful 3-8 target damage. Hybrid is competitve but doesn't pull ahead outside of low target cleave and higher target AoE. Cleave is for single target damage and insanely large aoe because of how much caustic and crimson tempest carry aoe damage. At the end of the day, the builds are extremely similar, but Bleed is looking to simply be the best.

[raw marlin]

Sir whysper

[tranquil lynx]

Lmao bleed all the way

[raw marlin]

We have a love hate relationship me and @balmy condor

I love him and he hates me.

[potent turret]

gay

[nova kelp]

I'm not much of a sub enjoyer in keys. Like it's not WEAK by any means. But it suffers greatly from it's points of downtime if you're not super familiar with the combo of the key and spec.

You might find yourself in spots of downtime when you need the damage.

[raw marlin]

If you never do damage you can’t have spots of low damage.

https://tenor.com/view/tkt-smart-gif-20642718

Also a sin Chad. I had a madras curry earlier today that was so hot it had no taste left and yet I still ate it all.

Outlaw rogues can’t do that. Pussies.

@marsh fjord ping.

[potent turret]

pong.

[weary pebble]

rogues that dont play assa are just weird imo

[nova kelp]

Hot take: all 3 specs are fun and have their merits

[raw marlin]

Except outlaw.

[weary pebble]

hell naw

[nova kelp]

Just some have bigger challenges

[marsh fjord]

pong

[raw marlin]

Outlaw is the hardest spec as you need to battle your own autism to play it.

[potent turret]

TOO SLOW

[distant fog]

wait

[marsh fjord]

hahahaha sorry was raid leading someone on ky'veza

[weary pebble]

and if you dont like combat when your deathmark fell off and youdont have vanish youre also weird

[distant fog]

why does last season set tell me it gives m 0.6% damage boost ?

[raw marlin]

Raid lead me tomorrow.

[potent turret]

but that boss is easy

[distant fog]

i have a 0 set

[cyan lily]

have link

[marsh fjord]

sure babe

[distant fog]

and lsat season 4 set is 0.5% with bleed build ?

[potent turret]

whats the struggle

[raw marlin]

Our tier set is a +6inch chongus gain

[tranquil lynx]

Assasination guide but its 1 hour long

[distant fog]

@raw marlin in english

[tranquil lynx]

Thats the title i think

[raw marlin]

No, hablo español

[distant fog]

i simmed our last season set vs my 0 set self and gained .6%

[raw marlin]

Si amigo

[weary pebble]

winning

[distant fog]

das not real no ?

[raw marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/winning-charliesheen-summer-win-won-gif-17974105

[raw marlin]

Maths was wrong. I would ignore all sims and just do what you think is best

Sims are lame losers

Why even sim if you’re just going to question it lol

[tranquil lynx]

Ur daggers were rusty thats why

[raw marlin]

Wouldn’t that be more damage?

Extra rust dot

[tranquil lynx]

🤣

[weary pebble]

i sim just for fun, i still feel like i know better

[raw marlin]

I don’t feel like I know better.

I know better. PERIOD

https://tenor.com/view/fucking-losers-matty-matheson-drop-acid-and-butter-baste-steaks-youre-all-losers-noob-shit-gif-26328375

[nova kelp]

I think...
That's actually heresy?

[raw marlin]

Objection.

https://tenor.com/view/b3tch-rogue-gif-8496307

[weary pebble]

can i sim my transmog btw

[raw marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/bloxo-rogue-rogue-coin-pirate-gif-16728928906379834383

[nova kelp]

How are you guys going to be in here disparaging the robit?

Rogues are the original sim

[raw marlin]

Is James Bond a rogue?

[normal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/right-go-on-im-listening-continue-interested-gif-16834704

[nova kelp]

James Bond is definitely a rogue

[weary pebble]

id say so

[raw marlin]

@normal mist are you a dad yet?

[normal mist]

Soon

[raw marlin]

How soon? Like blizzard soon? Or

[nova kelp]

Mmm discharge pets

[normal mist]

november

[raw marlin]

Remember remember

[potent turret]

dps loss.

[marsh fjord]

mage brain

[marble wadi]

how are u guys doing on ST with new fatebound

[raw marlin]

Amazing

[normal mist]

with the abilities

[marsh fjord]

really good

[marsh fjord]

can you name your kid after me

[potent turret]

lol he probably just avoiding middle then cant heal when portals come

noob mages

[raw marlin]

Don’t think ‘bellend’ is a good kids name.

[normal mist]

How about no

[nova kelp]

Name your kid after a rogue mechanic

[marsh fjord]

I have a beautifull name

[raw marlin]

As a dad.. can you IRL vanish?

[marble wadi]

are sims working fine for sin or are dummies just more squishy

[weary pebble]

im not sure whats good really, im doing like 2.5m dps on dummy

[haughty flicker]

dummies are permanently in execute

[nova kelp]

Call them exsanguinate. Everyone loved exsanguinate

[weary pebble]

its lower than the sim

[haughty flicker]

so you'll always do more on dummies

[raw marlin]

Name your kid ‘son’

[worn badger]

i miss sanguinate =/

[marble wadi]

ohh got it got it

[raw marlin]

It doesn’t miss you

[raw marlin]

Your discord name gives my eyes aids

Cod4 lobby name lol

[marble wadi]

had it since 3rd grade gotta keep it up

[raw marlin]

No

[potent turret]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-scott-the-office-flashing-gif-25932892

[weary pebble]

you actaully read discord names? i just view them as spam if theyre unreadable

[potent turret]

when do you leave 4th?

[desert vault]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[fallow canopy]

Cool name

[nova kelp]

I find sdg3ood is like those dementia pictures. It LOOKS like it's a bunch of things but not quite

[weary pebble]

you too boli

[marble wadi]

next year ill repeat the grade

[raw marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/everyone-ready-kyle-broflovski-kenny-mccormick-stan-marsh-eric-cartman-gif-20869572

[worn badger]

lets play a game. im bored and cant login just yet , how would you redesign crimson tempest if you could ?

[potent turret]

go play wordle

[weary pebble]

make it auto cast

coz lazy

[raw marlin]

Make it fast everytime I apply envenom.

[weary pebble]

crimson tempest can be like ravager auto cast

[marble wadi]

where can i check the ST for assa if dummies are broken

[weary pebble]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/

[nova kelp]

Dummies are... Broken?

What?

[normal mist]

Best bolo i've seen on netflix

[weary pebble]

well dummies are usually in execute range

[normal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/mooncake-final-space-cute-gif-15165511

this is bolo

[raw marlin]

What was that thing that is also a wet fart that is also an alien? A blurb?

[nova kelp]

Bolo looks like my ex's boobs

[marble wadi]

well ik about raid bots but thats not really fun i want to cast at things

[nova kelp]

Apparently

[raw marlin]

Green?

[weary pebble]

i see my name is very interesting 😛

[fallow canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/chocolate-cake-dessert-thirteen-layer-chocolate-cake-tall-cake-food-gif-1186868366209357418

[nova kelp]

Exactly

[normal mist]

Thats MY type of bolo

[fallow canopy]

same

[raw marlin]

You like it big and black.

[weary pebble]

bolo is gonna sleep though, my sim dps crashed the whole internets almost

[normal mist]

Bolo in portuguese means Cake

[weary pebble]

in my language it doesnt mean anything

😛

[raw marlin]

Mi amor grande bolo 😂

[nova kelp]

Bolo in my language is the name of the actor who played the bad guy in one of the best martial arts movies of ALL TIME

BLOOD SPORT

[fallow canopy]

wrong romance language

[raw marlin]

Kung fu panda?

[raw marlin]

Nah my girl speaks Spanish and Portuguese so it works 😂

[weary pebble]

well i know that guy! bolo yeung 😛

[fallow canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/community-ken-jeong-ben-chang-ill-allow-it-allowed-gif-4468552

[normal mist]

oh for real? thats awesome

[weary pebble]

i made this as some smurf account like 6 years ago and then someone told me about bolo yeung

i mean, i didnt know i was so famous already

but ive been using this discord eversince anyway :p

[nova kelp]

You just gotta bust out with "very good. But brick don't hit back"

[weary pebble]

anyway goodnight rogue server, cya in stealth maybe , later

[nova kelp]

I'll vvvvvwooosh you later

[versed mica]

If my sims are telling me to use two 2 min cd trinkets, how would I go about using them correctly?

Obviously I know youy use the first one with deathmark, but do you use the second one as soon as it's available?

or do I line it up with second KB?

[balmy condor]

with kb yes

[nova kelp]

But also. Fuck that.

[versed mica]

I could potentially macro the second trink with kb tho, right?

bc when I use KB with DM, the trinket would still be on the shared cd

[balmy condor]

sure

[thorn thorn]

@fallow canopy

[fallow canopy]

[wise socket]

took over 200 pulls but finaly free

[nova kelp]

Its never taken me 200 pulls thinking about kyvesa

That va does things to me

Oh.. oh nvm. Grats

[thorn thorn]

[haughty flicker]

[tranquil lynx]

thank you

[balmy condor]

based

[pale glacier]

Quick question for y'all. How "smart" is the rupture/garrote application on IC. Like, if there are 6 enemies and I rupture one (spreads to 2 others) and then I rupture to another enemy without rupture applied will it prioritize those without rupture?