so do ppl craft the 675 weapon right now ?
#assassination
rough nimbus
burnt star
rough nimbus
alright
weary spear
so do ppl craft the 675 weapon right now ?
What’s your mainhand’s ilvl
rough nimbus
i have 2 blues, this is a "fresh" char and i did not get weapons on my m0s
tidal orchid
can you realistically play fatebound in m+
rough nimbus
so 665 and 662 for both weaps
nova kelp
can you realistically play fatebound in m+
no
tidal orchid
smodge
nova kelp
or you definitely shouldn't
weary spear
Defs craft 675 then it’ll help. If u have gold for it
normal mist
no one does
worldly bridge
hey guys can i make mobs with no bleeeds on plates bigger ? Same question with DST mark
winged quail
ez fight was never close to crashing out 
marsh fjord
ez fight was never close to crashing out <:garf:1320173032743899157>
gzzz
radiant raven
ez fight was never close to crashing out <:garf:1320173032743899157>
hell yeah
nova kelp
I should give that a go
grim jay
I'd probably slave away at the renown degen stuff before I do that boss
cursive finch
just get 60 gilded
60? Not 90?
lean topaz
ez fight was never close to crashing out <:garf:1320173032743899157>
I was able to get her down as well
marsh fjord
60? Not 90?
nope 60
90 was only because of the extra item levels you could get on the item
That's not here at the start
left pine
!fuu
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Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
quartz apex
do you always crimson tempest before deathmark even on ST? I saw that on the wowhead opener it doesnt mention crimson tempest for st even though on the rotation/prio it does say to mantain it (bleed build). Thanks!
marsh fjord
do you always crimson tempest before deathmark even on ST? I saw that on the wow...
In the bleed build so M+ you also crimson tempest on ST yes. if you want to do that before deathmark or after is up to you. it does not have a big difference. because CT doesnt do anything for deathmark.
But the important thing to mention here is during deathmark youj get a lot of energy and you want to spam envenoms and not get energy capped
quartz apex
so would u ignore CT on the opener and then apply when deathmark is off and matnatin throughout the fight?
marsh fjord
No. if you are on a boss. i put up CT before i go into my deathmark
quartz apex
cool thanks
marsh fjord
Because in my deathmark window i just want to spend my energy + combo points on envenoms
and if you don't CT before hand you jgotta CT after deathmark
quartz apex
sounds good, appreciate it
pulsar plank
why are we good compared to other classes rn specifically in m+? I see no specific change on sin
sonic zinc
huge funnel
limpid quest
anyone know how to get simc to work on mop? works on retail but doesn't rec /simc in chat on mop
devout pine
!macro
prisma monolithBOT
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.
#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane
Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket
devout pine
For fatebound is the macro also + vanish?¿ or is the vanish later on?
spice surge
anyone know how to get simc to work on mop? works on retail but doesn't rec /sim...
This is probably a better question for a Mop/classic related discord
But also im pretty sure simc doesnt support old expansions, atleast raidbots doesnt
Ig you could manually grab one of the old branches and run it locally, but idk about that
fresh kelp
anyone know how to get simc to work on mop? works on retail but doesn't rec /sim...
in my guild in cata we used the wowsims website instead
looks updated for mop
a lot more primitive than raidbots is but it does the job
runic hinge
How many tries
final star
like 50
worldly bridge
does this give any power increase rewards ? gz btw
worldly bridge
🙁
final star
definitely not a 200 attempt boss
radiant raven
marsh fjord
definitely not a 200 attempt boss
Did you have the outline mode on?
spice surge
definitely not a 200 attempt boss
It is for some 
radiant raven
2,000 attempt boss
marsh fjord
yeah makes the boss way easier lol
final star
marsh fjord
because the clones show a red line around them and have way better visibility.
and way easier to see
final star
you should always have outline on high anyway 
marsh fjord
I did. but it didnt work for most people
radiant raven
Outline mode + no AA + graphics 1 have made massacre very easy to handle.
radiant raven
Frustrating 🙁
marsh fjord
I relogged, changed them both in base + raids
desiabled anti-ali
even downloaded a weakaura for it
but alas
radiant raven
Hopefully some solution is found 'cos that'll help other people too
marsh fjord
it doesnt help that they made the floor also red ish
and the lines are also red
😄
Sire prog all over again
radiant raven
haha, yeah
split veldt
what build yall running for ?? kyveza
radiant raven
I've had the best luck on Fatebound with raid talents
marsh fjord
If you want more execute damage then DS would be better
But damage isn't really the issue on that fight
split veldt
aite ty
radiant raven
Ye, it's a marathon.
split veldt
still better than kicking bombs last season
marsh fjord
10000%
radiant raven
He really likes going into the portals
brisk ore
Is atrophic or mind numbing the play for ?? Kyveza? The portal damage is environment right? Like the suck dot not stepping in it
blissful pumice
I need your help guys.
In my raid group, we distribute loot according to a priority list in which we can specify the items ourselves. Which of the following 3 items should I list with priority 1, 2, and 3? Priority 1 is best.
The 4 items I have to choose between are:
Reinforced Sandals
Ritual Forge
Astral Antenna
Netherprism
marsh fjord
I did aptrophic because her melees actually also hurts
golden loom
well if ur dying to auto damage numbing should be better
radiant raven
Slower melees
golden loom
cause ur slowing her attackspeed
marsh fjord
oh i thought numbing was only cast?
golden loom
nope
brisk ore
Nah AA's and casts
velvet vault
!fuu
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Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
marsh fjord
isnt a slower cast worse
radiant raven
attack and cast
marsh fjord
then 3% DR?
radiant raven
Probably have to math it out but I imagine more delay between her white hits is potentially better over the course of the fight than them doing 3% less.
Since everything else is a one-shot
marsh fjord
Yeah only the aoe damage + melee doesnt one shot you
brisk ore
Yeah it's auto attacks and the dot from the portals as the only damage you can take. I wasn't sure if we had knowers if the portals counted as her dam though
radiant raven
Yeah it's auto attacks and the dot from the portals as the only damage you can t...
I'm wondering that too
radiant raven
63% in 23 pulls
Hell yeah! That's real good, you've got it.
zenith coral
tricks before you vvanish tho it reset on me a few times
brisk ore
Im at about 75% on 30 pulls, but I feel like 675 ilvl is not ideal lol
marsh fjord
i did it at 681
brisk ore
Ok so it's doable I just have to do better
marsh fjord
What i would advise: feint + 1 defensive on portal
and if you see potions on the ground just use feint and walk over them with sprint
without using a defensive
zenith coral
ive had good luck going far and staying moving for dashes
thats hardest part for me
i have preheat line WA too helps a bit
marsh fjord
Also what helped me also was stop dpsing when you look at the clone
radiant raven
Just gotta play consistent and clean for the entire 8 - 10 minutes. Which is what I'm struggling with, haha
radiant raven
Also what helped me also was stop dpsing when you look at the clone
Seconding this. It's really good and you are in a marathon, so it's not a big loss. You've got time.
brisk ore
im gonna do a quick run with atrophic and die on the ports then a mind numbing the same to see if the port dot is reduced at all from atrophic
radiant raven
hell yeah science
brisk ore
it does look like atrophic affects portal dot. I got 471,603 ticks without and 454,344 with. double checked the math and it is 3.6% less
wicked carbon
Hey guys, the guide only talks about spreading rupture outside of IC. I suppose it is for SoB. Does it mean it's not worth spreading garotte outside of IC ?
west crown
Hey guys, the guide only talks about spreading rupture outside of IC. I suppose ...
You can but it's slow and not worth at all. Just garrote the main target if you need energy, otherwise don't.
rotund oak
orchid pewter
!up
prisma monolithBOT
kindred oriole
!sheet
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Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
inner swift
since when?
nova gust
since when?
the patch before this one
inner swift
didnt even notice
fresh kelp
What nameplates is everyone using?
nova gust
as a horrific visions enjoyer - saved me time from getting food from AI mages
is there a way to get around death mark not working properly during darkest night?
sullen violet
what do you recommend for the first spark ?
spice surge
if you can feasibly get ahold of gilded crests next week i suggest you craft a weapon wityh it
wicked carbon
Do we play around serrated bones outside opener ?
royal lantern
+ amplifying venom
? ofc you play amplifying
sterile violet
i copied the build from wowhead for M+
brisk ore
i think they were meaning the m+ build
royal lantern
oh ye, bleed build plays only 1 poison
split grail
Wait yeah, I jsut joined this convo but also just copied wowhead. Is the current m+ build wrong?
royal lantern
no
brisk ore
no
there's a whole video whispyr made on why bleeds are better than the hybrid build now
sterile violet
i'll watch it now thanks
brisk ore
yeah it's a lot of maths i don't quite remember the specifics on
split grail
I would have thought a bleed build woul use aterial precision
brisk ore
it does if you took the m+ one on wowhead
brisk ore
you are on 11.1 or some season 2 version of wowhead
quiet oriole
Wait wasn't there supposed to be a new whispyr video out today or am I tripping?
brisk ore
the new season suggested builds has fatebound for the raid single target
split grail
you are on 11.1 or some season 2 version of wowhead
I'm not, it says season 3 right above it
warm vortex
Wait wasn't there supposed to be a new whispyr video out today or am I tripping?
Imma get in bed w the homies to watch it
wicked carbon
Did they change the refresh timing of rupture/garrotte since S1 ? I remember we needed to refresh at less than 6sec but my platter shows values of 4x secs now.
spice surge
No, its always been 30% of duration of the dot you are refreshing
marsh fjord
Wait wasn't there supposed to be a new whispyr video out today or am I tripping?
well if you think about it. whispyr is NA and currently it's EU time. in the evening. it's morning for him now. and he doesnt really go to bed early also. so he is probaly still sleeping
spice spire
Imma get in bed w the homies to watch it
See you soon
warm vortex
See you soon
Already saved a spot for you <3
split grail
The single target also doesnt have cold blood. I think the quick import buttons are just wrong
marsh fjord
The single target also doesnt have cold blood. I think the quick import buttons ...
Let me check
brisk ore
this is the current season 3 m+ build
marsh fjord
The single target also doesnt have cold blood. I think the quick import buttons ...
for me it does
brisk ore
idk what's up with your wowhead, but it is not on the current info
brisk ore
yeah as soon as deathstalker was the single target build in your screenshot, I knew it was on your end
summer shoal
guys, I need some help, is there a WA for Rupture and Garrote to track the number of DoTs? Or what do you guys use?
spare viper
Yo guys, one question related to the raid ST Fatebound build - can we macro kingsbane and cold blood?
pastel roost
guys, I need some help, is there a WA for Rupture and Garrote to track the numbe...
Using whispyr WA
!wa
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marsh fjord
guys, I need some help, is there a WA for Rupture and Garrote to track the numbe...
I just made my own to track rupture + garrote. i dont look at how many targets. i just look at the pull and dot according to that
marsh fjord
This partt isnt
this is also updated for me
brisk ore
This partt isnt
I see where you are now. click the talent build part on the tabs to the left instead of the overview
split grail
Weird. I guess it doesn't matter so long as I have the right ones in the end
novel storm
Sup guys, im coming back to rogue after ive played it in season 1 tww, is assa still looking to be the best spec for m+? And is rotation much different since then?
split grail
Guess I need to learn how to play fatebound now. I don't even know what the talents do
brisk ore
Guess I need to learn how to play fatebound now. I don't even know what the tale...
the overview does look outdated, but the actual talent build section is correct
spare viper
Is there as well a list where to play which build? Some are ST but need some cleave for example second boss with the thingis to cleave - confuses me a bit tbh 😄
storm karma
guys, I need some help, is there a WA for Rupture and Garrote to track the numbe...
i use a WA to track how many garrotes and ruptures i have on in any pull 🙂 like this. itll say 2/5 etc
summer shoal
i use a WA to track how many garrotes and ruptures i have on in any pull 🙂 like...
Nice, can you share it pls?
storm karma
Nice, can you share it pls?
ye ill DM you
marsh fjord
Is there as well a list where to play which build? Some are ST but need some cle...
If you talk about raid encounters, yes. there is
brisk ore
if you go into the season 3 overview, the talents are not up to date there. took me some searching to find how Balrund got there
marsh fjord
if you go into the season 3 overview, the talents are not up to date there. took...
can you send me a link
im curious
oph i found it yes
brisk ore
yeah
marsh fjord
will let whispyr know
spare viper
If you talk about raid encounters, yes. there is
Yes, thats what im talking about - is it as well on wowhead linked 🙂 ?
marsh fjord
Yes, thats what im talking about - is it as well on wowhead linked 🙂 ?
No its not out yet.
soon TM
upper wraith
wait so are are we playing the s3 build or s2 build from wowhead
marsh fjord
wait so are are we playing the s3 build or s2 build from wowhead
Depends what encounter
upper wraith
is the KB build for m+ the right one for this season?
marsh fjord
is the KB build for m+ the right one for this season?
You play the bleed build
!builds
prisma monolithBOT
Bleed vs Hybrid vs Cleave/FI builds
Broad rules and Section in Guide:
- If you have to ask, you should play bleed
- If you're not doing +20's or higher, you should play bleed
- Even if you're doing higher, you should probably play bleed
- No, Fatebound is not good, you play Deathstalker in every key.
Some general concepts as to why people play different things:
- 11.2/Season 3: Bleed has gotten stronger through some buffs and the single target damage you get from singular focus is ridiculously good with the tier set. During PTR testing many high end rogues were just playing bleed everywhere.
- Ease of play: Bleed build is simply the easiest to play due to subterfuge/no kingsbane/less need for giant prio targets
- Boss damage: The cleave build is mainly for boss damage (note: not prio, there is no significant difference in prio). Assa single target in keys is pretty bad, and some bosses during season 2 were not possible on high keys otherwise. It remains to be seen what push keys in Season 3 will bring in that regard.
- Specific Dungeons: Rookery as an example is very boss-heavy, especially the last boss, making bleed less ideal. Rookery is not in the rotation in Season 3, and there are a lot of AoE dungeons. Dawnbreaker might be a candidate, but unsure currently.
- Where the damage is: Bleed spreads out its damage and does great overall due to sudden demise and powerful 3-8 target damage. Hybrid is competitve but doesn't pull ahead outside of low target cleave and higher target AoE. Cleave is for single target damage and insanely large aoe because of how much caustic and crimson tempest carry aoe damage. At the end of the day, the builds are extremely similar, but Bleed is looking to simply be the best.
upper wraith
ok so last seasons bleed build
lavish bane
how much is a good ammount of crit % ?
marsh fjord
how much is a good ammount of crit % ?
sim yourself
just follow the robot
but if you want to know im sitting at 34% atm
lavish bane
and how much mastery on top of that 34 % crit?
lavish bane
sure, i understand, thank you
novel storm
Sup guys, im coming back to rogue after ive played it in season 1 tww, is assa still looking to be the best spec for m+? And is rotation much different since then?
marsh fjord
Sup guys, im coming back to rogue after ive played it in season 1 tww, is assa s...
I dont know how it was in season 1. but it's the same in season 2.
and depends on the dungeon. the new tavahesh dungeon & dawnbreaker sub is better
frigid cedar
is there bis trinket list sheet? like prev seoson?
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Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue
split grail
So learning fatebound, I see we vanish after kingsbane. Is it immediatelyt after or...?
brisk ore
you want one of your 2 cold blood empowered envenoms to be from stealth (vanish) after kingsbane and cold blood macro. doing your first envenom after is probably easiest imo
high sundial
ye ill DM you
Hi. Is this your number of nearby Garrote/Ruptures tracker? https://wago.io/2S0Eyvf5N
upper wraith
when do we break tier
weak cypress
!plater
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brave comet
raider io is showing empty when you hit copy url, anyeone else?
humble verge
ok so im just doing ansurek boosting
storm karma
Hi. Is this your number of nearby Garrote/Ruptures tracker? https://wago.io/2S0E...
ye that looks like it. i have another for garrote too, but ig you can just change the debuffs in the aura too 🙂
high sundial
ye that looks like it. i have another for garrote too, but ig you can just chang...
Thanks!
distant fog
Its onlg 3%
runic basin
!sims
prisma monolithBOT
Simulations:
Bloodmallet: https://bloodmallet.com/index.html
thick zinc
!guide
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Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue
thick zinc
guys, is the best crafting order still -> dagger with embelishment and then bracers with embelishment?
worldly dock
Wich delve we have to do for the DISC belt?
thick zinc
ANY delve would work
brisk ore
guys, is the best crafting order still -> dagger with embelishment and then brac...
I'm pretty sure that's the wow head recommendation, and that's what I did
Someone mentioned only if you farm the gilded crests to upgrade it tho
worldly dock
ANY delve would work
but wich power we need for our disc belt
brisk ore
but wich power we need for our disc belt
It's the one in the spider zone at the top
I can't remember the name, but it has the puppet master
Spiral weave
austere flame
fatebound the play for st?
brisk ore
Pure ST yeah
royal lantern
guys, is the best crafting order still -> dagger with embelishment and then brac...
yes
normal mist
Someone mentioned only if you farm the gilded crests to upgrade it tho
Even if you don't, it's good
open briar
https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/rogue/assassination/talent-builds-pve-dps
does anyone know of the cleave build is competitive in high mythic keys 17-19+ or is it primarily the hybrid build?
hallow glade
On ptr people were playing bleed at all levels
open briar
Hmm I see, sweet okay thank you.
static glacier
https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/rogue/assassination/talent-builds-pve-dps
...
You can play it, you’ll do better st and worse aoe than the other builds
It’s meant for high keys where boss damage is a roadblock / sins other builds have pretty bad boss dmg
harsh tendon
just wanted to share with my fellow assa enjoyers
humble verge
@haughty flicker i found you
winter prairie
What is the ratio of mastery crit haste I need?
pastel roost
just wanted to share with my fellow assa enjoyers
Deathstalker or fatebound ? gratz on the kill
thorn thorn
Im witnessing 👀
harsh tendon
Deathstalker or fatebound ? gratz on the kill
deathstalker, ty ty
fickle fossil
!up
prisma monolithBOT
balmy condor
What is the ratio of mastery crit haste I need?
Whatever sims better for your character
opal frost
Better start sandbagging m+ shits gunna get nerfed
wet spire
casual out here doing 20m overall in floodgate before big momma lol
main bridge
you know overall goes down over the course of the dungeon right?
main bridge
i'm not the one calling people names
opal frost
haha he spiked 65mil on momma
humble verge
it can only go up for me
runic hinge
My overall goes up during the course of a dungeon (I died on first pull)
wet spire
lol
wet spire
haha he spiked 65mil on momma
shit was wild
humble verge
😎
thorn thorn
Turns out funnel is very good
humble verge
haha he spiked 65mil on momma
wait who
runic hinge
Is this in a ptr key or on live
humble verge
casualaddict on ptr
ofc 
runic hinge
Oh ptr disgusting lol
wet spire
yeah
humble verge
thats disgusting
wet spire
shits wild
pine granite
Hi one question, can I sim a full crafted 675 tier set somehow? Like comparing it against my own set of gear
main bridge
Hi one question, can I sim a full crafted 675 tier set somehow? Like comparing i...
yes, top gear has a search box
thorn thorn
Stat squish soon™
runic hinge
Hi one question, can I sim a full crafted 675 tier set somehow? Like comparing i...
There’s a menu at the top of “top gear” where you can add each piece
pine granite
Nice thanks
wet spire
tbh im excited to play rogue in m+ this season
chrome meadow
hey, is it big difference if sending on fatebound st after using big cds>vanish>(ambush) instead of mut?
wet spire
rolled a dk alt just in case though
chrome meadow
lol
wet spire
yeah sorry i am having too many conversations lol
id say probably not
and if it is probably not enough to notice the difference
chrome meadow
i have a bad habit of pressing ambush all the time because i only played deathstalker, and now its mutilate after vanish on fb therefore i asked myself of how big the punishment is for pressing ambush
thorn thorn
Like most things on this spec im gonna assume its on the minor end
granite sentinel
how much yal simmin rn?
i'm like 3.4 in fatebound
chrome meadow
i like
wet spire
how much yal simmin rn?
i'm like 3.4 in fatebound
no idea havent simmed myself lol
chrome meadow
1 less keybind
thorn thorn
Spec is op in M+ until you put it in raw ST with nothing to funnel off of
wet spire
Spec is op in M+ until you put it in raw ST with nothing to funnel off of
true but i think most people will perform better with bleed
thorn thorn
Even with bleed
Thats just sin in a nutshell in M+
Do crap raw ST, with funnel do lots of st and aoe
Big stonks
chrome meadow
when playing bleed, on 1st pull floodgate, did he put rup on evry mob?
wet spire
how much yal simmin rn?
i'm like 3.4 in fatebound
i sim 3.2M with fatebound atm
balmy condor
i have a bad habit of pressing ambush all the time because i only played deathst...
0
wet spire
when playing bleed, on 1st pull floodgate, did he put rup on evry mob?
probably just to get the buff from 5 maybe one more rupture but you want to get CT out and cds
chrome meadow
aight thx a lot
fallow canopy
thorn thorn
<:basegcat:1107701282577334292>
normal mist
What a gamer
fallow canopy
Is that portuguese blood I tell you
runic hinge
<:basegcat:1107701282577334292>
thorn thorn
<:xla:1283127722180087808>
eager pond
!builds
prisma monolithBOT
Bleed vs Hybrid vs Cleave/FI builds
Broad rules and Section in Guide:
- If you have to ask, you should play bleed
- If you're not doing +20's or higher, you should play bleed
- Even if you're doing higher, you should probably play bleed
- No, Fatebound is not good, you play Deathstalker in every key.
Some general concepts as to why people play different things:
- 11.2/Season 3: Bleed has gotten stronger through some buffs and the single target damage you get from singular focus is ridiculously good with the tier set. During PTR testing many high end rogues were just playing bleed everywhere.
- Ease of play: Bleed build is simply the easiest to play due to subterfuge/no kingsbane/less need for giant prio targets
- Boss damage: The cleave build is mainly for boss damage (note: not prio, there is no significant difference in prio). Assa single target in keys is pretty bad, and some bosses during season 2 were not possible on high keys otherwise. It remains to be seen what push keys in Season 3 will bring in that regard.
- Specific Dungeons: Rookery as an example is very boss-heavy, especially the last boss, making bleed less ideal. Rookery is not in the rotation in Season 3, and there are a lot of AoE dungeons. Dawnbreaker might be a candidate, but unsure currently.
- Where the damage is: Bleed spreads out its damage and does great overall due to sudden demise and powerful 3-8 target damage. Hybrid is competitve but doesn't pull ahead outside of low target cleave and higher target AoE. Cleave is for single target damage and insanely large aoe because of how much caustic and crimson tempest carry aoe damage. At the end of the day, the builds are extremely similar, but Bleed is looking to simply be the best.
runic hinge
<:xla:1283127722180087808>
haughty flicker
chrome meadow
some who did kyveza (??) can share talent string?
thorn thorn
<:bla:1264689429424115795>
fallow canopy
some who did kyveza (??) can share talent string?
I used the fatebound st from wowhead
chrome meadow
doable with lvl 53 bran?
haughty flicker
should be
fallow canopy
prob, brann is just there to throw pots
haughty flicker
just use defensives during the succ and dont get one shot by mechanics
chrome meadow
okay ill attempt thaaanks
harsh tendon
some who did kyveza (??) can share talent string?
CMQAA0tw2gAD7pPTLoW5IGZDeMjZmhxM2mBAAAAAgZDWmBAAAAAg2WmZGMzYMzMLz2MzMmBDzMzYmNbjZA2MLDMglglhJwwCA my brann was also lvl61
chrome meadow
CMQAA0tw2gAD7pPTLoW5IGZDeMjZmhxM2mBAAAAAgZDWmBAAAAAg2WmZGMzYMzMLz2MzMmBDzMzYmNbj...
tyy
distant fog
@balmy condor our sim has execute rige
mystic hornet
does the ara kara sacbrood trinket not sim properly? even at 691 ilvl raidbots says its about equal with a 671 signet of the priory. d slice. seems weird
balmy condor
<@167090536602140682> our sim has execute rige
Of course
balmy condor
does the ara kara sacbrood trinket not sim properly? even at 691 ilvl raidbots s...
That seems correct
distant fog
Ok
thorn thorn
Sacbrood got nerfed
mystic hornet
ah. good to know. thank you.
fallow canopy
my sac ain't what it used to be
distant fog
Outlaw diff
thorn thorn
Outlaw is for chumps
thorn thorn
Dont be a chump
winter prairie
What is the stats priority? How more important is crit and mastery than haste?
fallow canopy
What is the stats priority? How more important is crit and mastery than haste?
!stats
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There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.
- Signet of the Priory will require you have Mastery as your highest RATING (the actual number, not the %). Having Crit and Mastery close to one another will cause procs from Flask or Seaforium Pacemaker to cause your Signet to give you Crit. This is generally worse and will cause Signet to sim poorly.
- Compared to each other, Deathstalker wants more Mastery/Haste than Fatebound, and Fatebound wants more Crit than Deathstalker
- Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
distant fog
@midnight mist handle my lightweight
Ngl tho outlaw hasnt been the same since haste scaling
thorn thorn
You and what burst
winter prairie
Ty
balmy condor
1v1 me karesh delve speedrun lil bro
We boutta do a triathlon, delve, pet battle, world boss
solar wyvern
i cant help but notice
balmy condor
It’s gonna get freaky
thorn thorn
Ill 1v1 you
Ill let her solo you
solar wyvern
Hmmmmm
thorn thorn
It’s gonna get freaky
balmy condor
Bring your strongest pet
Left shark ain’t gotta even raise a flipper to smack yo ass
solar wyvern
16 in a row
distant fog
Without mana pots
thorn thorn
https://tenor.com/view/godcard-yugioh-flame-gif-12237618
Unfortunately for you I have the single most powerful spell to ever exist
distant fog
@solar wyvern you couldve won 1 million if you used 1 dollar flips
I want you to undestand that
thorn thorn
solar wyvern
frigg
thorn thorn
What is this KB bug I keep hearing about
distant fog
Gamba gamba
solar wyvern
I cannot feel disgust
For i have been doing fatebound ptr keys
so i am already disgusting
balmy condor
What is this KB bug I keep hearing about
The duration of kb’s buff with the extension from fb 2 pc is fucked
distant fog
Fatebound is better anyway aoe
thorn thorn
So the duration sometimes dont increase
distant fog
Just hit tails 42 times in a row
thorn thorn
Incredible
distant fog
Per pack
haughty flicker
the stacking buff duration isnt increased
balmy condor
No, the duration of the stacks just drop
haughty flicker
so midway through your kb you just drop all your stacks
thorn thorn
Wait
distant fog
Damage loss ig
tranquil lynx
thorn thorn
So you just get like 2 extra ticks of a KB that has no damage buff
tranquil lynx
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1393677310493851749/1404171479821713540/i...
New to assa how does it look
balmy condor
Where the fuck is spatter
tranquil lynx
Whats that
thorn thorn
tranquil lynx
Im new new
balmy condor
Would suggest a guide then
tranquil lynx
Thats world boss
balmy condor
That’s fine
Should still be seeing spatter
If CT is that high then there’s plenty of aoe
And if there’s aoe, there’s spatter
haughty flicker
what build are you running that has ct but not spatter
thorn thorn
Maybe he is running internal
balmy condor
haughty flicker
also this guy doesnt know to go down during intermission and hit the world boss in phase diving, everyone laugh at him
tranquil lynx
thorn thorn
This one
balmy condor
but ib is a bleed
When the heavens open up for us all and we are beckoned into his eternal realm you shall be denied
thorn thorn
You really wanna read this one
balmy condor
^ that green shit is your main aoe not named “crimson tempest”
thorn thorn
Very big aoe talent
royal lantern
^ that green shit is your main aoe not named “crimson tempest”
deadly poison?
thorn thorn
If target count is >1 it will be doing a large chunk of your overall
balmy condor
deadly poison?
Bel is dragging you to hell with him
scarlet orbit
deadly poison?
Nah "Ätzender Spritzer" is obv the aswer
tranquil lynx
Other than that how does it look
fallow canopy
deadly poison?
Poison bomb obviously
balmy condor
Looks okay enough
Idk what the breakdown of the world boss should be
But seems fine
tranquil lynx
Okay thanks
runic hinge
but ib is a bleed
dont let whispyr talk down to you, ib is important and some would say above average!!!!
balmy condor
And it’s a world boss so idk
tranquil lynx
I started yestarday and its quite different from outlaw but its ton of fun
Also is the build good or i should focus on something else
I just copied this one for delves and keys
balmy condor
Yep that’s just standard bleed
runic hinge
bleed build is op
orchid pewter
hide it
keen mantle
told them to close streams
runic hinge
stop using details!
wet spire
@keen mantle need you to start sandbagging my dude
balmy condor
Oh goodie more random ptr details screenshots
My favorite
Cant wait for people to just blindly paste that repeatedly
runic hinge
Sin! OP
tranquil lynx
Can i see the damage breakdown
runic hinge
I heard it here!
storm forum
Cant wait for people to just blindly paste that repeatedly
good idea, sent to the priest and mage discords ASAP
keen mantle
Can i see the damage breakdown
tranquil lynx
Thank yoy
runic hinge
good idea, sent to the priest and mage discords ASAP
spriest needs buffs, you right
haughty flicker
ok singular focus being higher than envenom does go insanely hard though
balmy condor
Triple dipping
haughty flicker
spriest needs buffs, you right
psychic link buff on the way
runic hinge
Me when a funnel spec gets to funnel and does insane damage
the tier set doubling it makes it wildly good tho
balmy condor
Me when the talent says 5% but the whitelists are fucked and you press shiv and it ends up being closer to 17%
runic hinge
psychic link buff on the way
rain mortar
I actually greatly appreciate Whispyrs ability to make anything at least seem a little bad. He will never let our heads and egos get too big and that is the bastion of truth we all need.
thorn thorn
Its called just being realistic
Realistic is realizing that PTR data is not useful and just generates views
balmy condor
My ability is in not giga glazing every little thing whenever anything happens
I’m not actually all that negative
thorn thorn
Whispyr is based
rain mortar
PTR data is not useful lol?
balmy condor
But when the internet is nothing but infinite glaze and CLICK THIS LOOK HERE GIGA DAM MOST OP
thorn thorn
Correct PTR data is not useful for current version of the game
balmy condor
It’s kinda difficult for me to see positive
balmy condor
Cause I’m not out here doing fucking backflips every time someone posts a details
harsh anchor
thorn thorn
Its like a daily discussion everytime people talk about PTR data
distant fog
14 mil overall is some shit
balmy condor
If me not getting excited over the same ptr shit we’ve seen for months makes me seem negative then my bad I guess
distant fog
long hawk
Anybody know if the caustic damage from mobs funnels into your dm target from singular focus?
balmy condor
But if that’s the case then maybe I don’t want to be positive
balmy condor
Anybody know if the caustic damage from mobs funnels into your dm target from si...
Yes it does
thorn thorn
Its almost as if the PTR isnt always a reflection of what is or is intended to be the final product of the game
distant fog
It is tho
balmy condor
No it isn’t lmao
thorn thorn
distant fog
Especially rn
thorn thorn
Its testing
distant fog
balmy condor
Ptr is just the future updated stuff
Ptr is by definition unfinished
Are you baiting
rain mortar
Brother, to make some blanket statement that “PTR data is useless” is the most absurd thing of all time.
balmy condor
this is bait
balmy condor
Brother, to make some blanket statement that “PTR data is useless” is the most a...
Show me all that useful raid testing data then
thorn thorn
Brother, to make some blanket statement that “PTR data is useless” is the most a...
Its delusional to think data from a testing realm is useful
fallow canopy
thorn thorn
What data is useful
runic hinge
to blizzard maybe
thorn thorn
To us
distant fog
The bosses mechanics
thorn thorn
As the players
distant fog
The set tier bonus %
and as it gets closer to next raid
The actual numbers
Classes are locked during rwf
thorn thorn
Both of the last 2 are subject to change
rain mortar
Where do sims come from? Where do boss starts come from? Where do we figure out which mobs we want to prio in dungeons, where do we find out how to farm rep? There are a million things on PTR that are useful
thorn thorn
Where do sims come from? Where do boss starts come from? Where do we figure out ...
Baseless claim
harsh anchor
bro, why we using garf at the end of every point made like it's a mic drop
fallow canopy
As the players
How the new transmog looks like
rain mortar
Just because you get annoyed at people posting a probably inflated details log doesn’t make all of ptr useless lmao
distant fog
thorn thorn
Everything you just listed is stuff that can be found in real time and can be changed by tuning at any point during testing
distant fog
Yes it can be changed but when its changed… its new data
thorn thorn
How the new transmog looks like <:garf_sit:1334889429449314456>
Now this is the big one
rain mortar
What? Everything you do on live can be changed at any point too haha
ocean quiver
Does this macro work btw?:
/cast Shadowmeld
/cast Stealth```
Constantly pressing meld and not pressing stealth fast enough to actually benefit from itThe actual important oen
distant fog
Having a linear view of testing is the fault of the entire argument
thorn thorn
What? Everything you do on live can be changed at any point too haha
Factually inaccurate
balmy condor
Where do sims come from? Where do boss starts come from? Where do we figure out ...
I mean, all of those things you mentioned were so shit this ptr that I had to pull a triple all nighter in one week to get sims and guides done because it was so poorly tuned that I couldn’t make any concrete theorycrafting from them
thorn thorn
Almost as if its testing
balmy condor
They’ve changed so much shit
distant fog
But closer to raid its basically concrete
thorn thorn
And being reliant on incomplete info is not helpful
distant fog
We might get one more change before tuesday
rain mortar
Almost as if its testing
Holy shit dude if all the testing data is pointless why do they test? It’s like your brain is broken lol
drifting cedar
!fuu
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thorn thorn
Holy shit dude if all the testing data is pointless why do they test? It’s like ...
Im not the one living in delusion?
distant fog
Test phases dont change very rapidly the closer we get to goal time
rain mortar
Whatever helps you sleep at night.
thorn thorn
They tell us to play PTR and test stuff but the objective truth of it is that a lot of things still dont get fixed
Even after testing and numerous bug reports
balmy condor
Holy shit dude if all the testing data is pointless why do they test? It’s like ...
because they need players to go in and bug report and find broken interactions that they can fix
distant fog
So it solidifies the point that not alot of stuff changes
zenith coral
public TEST realm
thorn thorn
The PTR at this point is to feed the communities insatiable brainrot
fallow canopy
Kb duration bug will surely get fixed next reset
distant fog
I think ptr just widens the gap between skill levels
fallow canopy
thorn thorn
And addiction to any sort of information regardless of its credibility
distant fog
Having so much time to practice is insane
balmy condor
honestly if people like vram are indicitive of how the community treats PTR, they probably just need to get rid of it entirely
thorn thorn
Yes they should really
thorn thorn
Especially since the PTRs have become increasingly buggy and live patches become increasingly buggy
runic hinge
sepulcher was a banger raid
distant fog
Not for rwf
thorn thorn
Cool
runic hinge
who cares
balmy condor
the game shouldn't be designed around 200 people
thorn thorn
A small portion of the playerbase
runic hinge
im not one of 60 people who do
distant fog
Do you think rwf is some random thing
Its world of warcrafts biggest pull in new traction for game
balmy condor
source?
distant fog
Its insanely important
thorn thorn
Its incredibly stupid to design around the top players in any game
And scripe and max have both said this
That blizzard needs to stop balancing the raid around them
west crown
And scripe and max have both said this
max mentioned, opinion invalidated
balmy condor
not a single one of my non-wow friends gives a shit about RWF
balmy condor
they open it up, see splits, go "wtf" and close it
distant fog
Splits are horrible for it i agree
balmy condor
they open it up, see a fight they don't understand and another 50% wipe and go "wtf" and close it
distant fog
Heroic should be open week 1
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west crown
That blizzard needs to stop balancing the raid around them
Mythic should be balaced for high end players. Not everyone deserves to do high end content
balmy condor
eventually they see a 15 second short from the nerd screams
west crown
Class balance is different
balmy condor
that's how normal people interact with RWF
thorn thorn
Mythic should be balaced for high end players. Not everyone deserves to do high ...
Correct but not the top 100 people which was their point
And its extremely delusional to think that is the way to do it
wet spire
that's how normal people interact with RWF
but they will watch kids 360 noscope people in cod lol
balmy condor
if they're cod players, yes
wet spire
lol true
distant fog
Nobody said balance purely around them but if ptr didnt exist blizzard wouldnt know how to balance a raid
balmy condor
the entire argument was that's it's new traction for the game
wet spire
the entire argument was that's it's new traction for the game
yeah sorry came in late thats mb
balmy condor
and that simply can't be true because the vast majority of new players doesn't have a fucking clue what's going on 
screen full of weakauras
thorn thorn
Very true
runic hinge
Nobody said balance purely around them but if ptr didnt exist blizzard wouldnt k...
there's tuning during every rwf so that kinda falls apart
balmy condor
"yeah this is great content"
distant fog
@runic hinge yea because whoever is on balance team sucks
west crown
and that simply can't be true because the vast majority of new players doesn't h...
Before playing wow, this is exactly how I felt
thorn thorn
Wow players will hold onto anything that doesnt dispell their idea that the PTR realm isnt micky mouse house
Its a character trait
distant fog
Dunno but weak auras, strats, bis , ext ect all come from the data ptr gives
runic hinge
<@221124352861667340> yea because whoever is on balance team sucks
i mean, yeah, ptr exists and they still cant balance, so your argument for ptr being needed for balancing the raid kinda falls apart
distant fog
@runic hinge if it didnt exist it would be 10x worse
thorn thorn
Weakauras need to go
balmy condor
Wow players will hold onto anything that doesnt dispell their idea that the PTR ...
I'm gonna do rank 1 world m+ keys on closed beta of midnight since its so meaningful
west crown
i mean, yeah, ptr exists and they still cant balance, so your argument for ptr b...
Still needed, it would just be in an even worse state without it
thorn thorn
I'm gonna do rank 1 world m+ keys on closed beta of midnight since its so meanin...
So true bestie
balmy condor
why is wowhead writer getting early access he's gonna be so far ahead when the game launches from all those closed beta keys he ran
runic hinge
Maybe balance would be better than it is after having a bunch of degens running keys in bis gear
rain mortar
i mean, yeah, ptr exists and they still cant balance, so your argument for ptr b...
Would balancing be better or worse without PTR? It’s the same as anything in the world. You practice / test things to improve on them. Acting like PTR is useless is complete mental ineptitude. Could it be better? Yes. Is it limited? Yes. Is it completely “useless” no. If you actually believe that you are brain dead.
thorn thorn
why is wowhead writer getting early access he's gonna be so far ahead when the g...
The practice is real you dont understand
thorn thorn
Would balancing be better or worse without PTR? It’s the same as anything in the...
You are living in micky mouse house brother
Idk what to tell you
west crown
Would balancing be better or worse without PTR? It’s the same as anything in the...
You may be autistic if you disagree with this
distant fog
Ok so how would you make the ENTIRE basis of new content then @thorn thorn
balmy condor
The practice is real you dont understand
yeah practice is super important, that's why JPC got turbo boosted 2.5 months into a season after having not played any of the dungeons and started doing like top 10 keys with yoda
distant fog
The amount of shit we pull from ptr to live is immense
rain mortar
You are living in micky mouse house brother
Id love you to just come out and say it - “the game would be better without PTR on release” with a straight face.
thorn thorn
Ok so how would you make the ENTIRE basis of new content then <@2093868463655485...
Without the involvement of the wow community because its fill of fucking idiots
distant fog
@thorn thorn ok so who does it
thorn thorn
Id love you to just come out and say it - “the game would be better without PTR ...
The game would be better without PTR on release
balmy condor
The amount of shit we pull from ptr to live is immense
at least on the class tuning side of it, the amount of shit we pull from PTR to live is immense and also 95% wrong
thorn thorn
Pretty easy actually
distant fog
Easy ?
runic hinge
Pretty sure they blind balance as it is
west crown
at least on the class tuning side of it, the amount of shit we pull from PTR to ...
Even wrong data is somewhat helpful
distant fog
We balance how many classes how many specs and how many hero talents
rain mortar
The game would be better without PTR on release
And now - you’re just simply brain dead.
distant fog
Btw
thorn thorn
Who does all the balancing blind
They are already going to be doing it based on live data
balmy condor
Even wrong data is somewhat helpful
that's simply untrue
west crown
It's simply true. It is a basis of comparison. Right or wrong
distant fog
RIGHT
and a class is 20% ahead
For 1 week
Then they nerf it
Someone else finds ANOTHER spec 30% ahead
They nerf it
balmy condor
a basis of comparison requires that you have a basis itself
distant fog
Thats how live without ptr would ve
thorn thorn
You say this as if it would be like dominos and the over performing specs wouldnt instantly stand out
balmy condor
you can't compare two equally awful incorrect things and then go "look data"
that's not how statistics work
rain mortar
a basis of comparison requires that you have a basis itself
The release candidate is the basis.
distant fog
@thorn thorn they fucking would
west crown
Yes. Even if the basis is wrong. You have something to check for at release. Go into it blind you will miss more things. Wrong data is still useful data
thorn thorn
And now - you’re just simply brain dead.
Red flag for attacking the opponent not the argument
distant fog
You think simc is like some old machine
balmy condor
The release candidate is the basis.
bro shut up I'm not even talking to you
thorn thorn
<@209386846365548545> they fucking would
Correct thats my point
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balmy condor
Yes. Even if the basis is wrong. You have something to check for at release. Go ...
what are we "missing" here
thorn thorn
Its not like they are going to be like "oh this one is over performing" and next week "oh this one is over performing too oops"
thorn thorn
They would find the ones shooting far above the marker instantly
balmy condor
like what do you think falls through the cracks
runic hinge
balmy condor
if there's no PTR
distant fog
@thorn thorn you sure ? When fotm exists without testing thats exactly what would happen
And how would you learn your new rotation
small garnet
kyveza sucks as rogue man
distant fog
How would you learn new talents new specs new classes
small garnet
i need the title
thorn thorn
I would learn them on live like a normal person
west crown
what are we "missing" here
Bugs, improper interactions, numbers not actually changing, shadow changes that always seem to happen
distant fog
Fotm happens because of testing but it would make the problem 10x worse without it
balmy condor
Bugs, improper interactions, numbers not actually changing, shadow changes that ...
we already know all of that without PTR
distant fog
Patches that massively alter the current game state would be forced to happen during the raid
rain mortar
It’s so obvious logically that is painful people don’t see it. People complain that the PTR is bad when released. Then they also argue that we shouldn’t do a PTR to fix things. Why? So we they release a live version of the game like PTR when it first came up. Like come on.
distant fog
And that by definition is the dumbest thing to want
thorn thorn
The severity of the problem does not discount its existence at all
Just because its going to be worse without testing doesnt make it less bad
Its still a problem
distant fog
Raid bosses would be released either tuned horrible low or high
By a wide margin
Which would need to be patched again
balmy condor
clearly the patch releases in a fucked state regardless of PTR
thorn thorn
Which would be an opportunity for PTR to actually be useful data if they actually responded to feedback given
But they dont always
distant fog
Like how many fucking patches you want per day
balmy condor
the PTR released with nothing testable
thorn thorn
Because a lot of shit slips through the cracks
distant fog
@thorn thorn they dont always but they still do
thorn thorn
There are specs with bugs from TWW PTR that have existed the entire xpac
small garnet
we already know all of that without PTR
is realz still the dev for both rogue and dh
thorn thorn
Reported every PTR cycle
balmy condor
is realz still the dev for both rogue and dh
that's not a fucking thing
thorn thorn
And still arent fixed
distant fog
Massive changes every week
west crown
It’s so obvious logically that is painful people don’t see it. People complain t...
Don't argue with the chronically online discord mods. All logic evades them.
distant fog
Imagine that during eaid
tulip pasture
what is the best build mm+ ?
balmy condor
Don't argue with the chronically online discord mods. All logic evades them.
good one
you got me
thorn thorn
Don't argue with the chronically online discord mods. All logic evades them.
Red flag for attacking the opponent not the argument
balmy condor
thorn thorn
Say something useful next time
distant fog
Downtime would be massive and hotfixes would come through like water
balmy condor
Downtime would be massive and hotfixes would come through like water
as opposed to now where that's not true, or what
west crown
Red flag for attacking the opponent not the argument
woosh?
distant fog
It would WORSEN THE PROBLEM
like what dont yall get
Ptr might not be perfect but it does the job its meant to do
runic hinge
Does it?
balmy condor
it would worsen the problem if they had no idea what was wrong
distant fog
Like arguing against that is literally unthinkable
thorn thorn
Which is the only point I will give you
distant fog
@balmy condor and how would they know without testing
thorn thorn
It does indeed do its job enough in terms of testing
runic hinge
you are
distant fog
@midnight mist they want to remove ptr
midnight mist
ty
west crown
who is right
you are zac
distant fog
HAHAAH
balmy condor
<@167090536602140682> and how would they know without testing
do you think KB bug is so blind that they need a PTR for that
rain mortar
wtf remove ptr
No need for PTR - the data is 100% useless. We gain nothing from ptr.
runic hinge
this discord would be better without ptr
thorn thorn
So true bestie
balmy condor
there are clearly obvious bugs, you don't need people testing that
west crown
this discord would be better without ptr
I think we can all agree on this one
thorn thorn
Yes
distant fog
Bugs are a coding issue from the sphagetti they made the game with
thorn thorn
That much is apparent
balmy condor
this discord would be better without ptr
ofc
midnight mist
ptr is prolly my favorite part of wow no cap
plain hare
Meanwhile, in the Sub thread
midnight mist
thats the only time you go blind
and test things
yourself
like in raid or m+
so cool !
you get to feel like a world first raider
holy shmoke !
thorn thorn
The community as a whole would improve without PTR
distant fog
balmy condor
at the end of the day, yes removing PTR would be more chaos and smaller things fall through, but there's so many things that are so painfully obviously wrong that don't get fixed even with people reporting it for actually years, how long have we bitched about deathstalker mark+darkest night being fucked
bright turret
no ptr would be hell for people that like to reroll every season
balmy condor
the major bugs that don't get fixed
still wouldn't get fixed
you don't need people testing that a tier set simply doesn't function
distant fog
Dont we have a rogue dev in here
balmy condor
there is no such thing as "rogue dev"
distant fog
Boomie bugs get fixed instantly
Yall need to make twitters im saying
And bitch like boomie
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bright turret
are there any major rogue bugs that affect damage this season
midnight mist
are there any major rogue bugs that affect damage this season
bf is capped at 7
rain mortar
As I’ve been saying from the start that for some reason was controversial, PTR is useful but flawed.
west crown
why did my shit caps
midnight mist
you used #
bright turret
that's not a bug that's "interesting" gameplay
distant fog
@rain mortar their thoughts are wow is better without ptr
Not that its better to have it then not even if flawed
thorn thorn
Specifically my thoughts were the community would improve without it
Cuz the community as a majority is dumb as fuck and doesnt understand how to parse the info on the PTR or what it even means
quasi ledge
What you guys think, we only use council talents on the demon hunters or any other boss?
thorn thorn
And its evident when people post details from PTR and people are like "omg sandbag its so op we cant let blizzard know"
If its doing that much on ptr its not a secret, they already know
balmy condor
What you guys think, we only use council talents on the demon hunters or any oth...
nop, CT only for the council
quasi ledge
nop, CT only for the council
ty ❤️
frozen glacier
so theres really no big rotation changes with fatebound for raid right
rain mortar
Specifically my thoughts were the community would improve without it
Well specifically your comments were that PTR data is completely useless in all cases lmao
quasi ledge
nop, CT only for the council
Im struggling to learn opener on cleave/council talents. The opener guide for multi target is with IC right? Manual bleeds on 3 targets takes ages
thorn thorn
And it will always be that way because there will always be a lack of understanding on the PTR
And it will always be a headache to deal with
balmy condor
Im struggling to learn opener on cleave/council talents. The opener guide for mu...
you just hit one target for the most part, spread rupture by hand, and CT
it's basically the same
quasi ledge
When do i rupture other targets? after mark/kb or before?
supple ether
Is there such macro to shadowstep to ur focus target and also kick it? and not shadowstep if target in kick range already
quasi ledge
Is there such macro to shadowstep to ur focus target and also kick it? and not s...
Not possible afaik
thorn thorn
Conditional macros arent a thing nowadays
balmy condor
When do i rupture other targets? after mark/kb or before?
before, after, during
humble verge
We have had worse
what, today? people can top my stupidness?
balmy condor
you don't need to babysit your KB that bad
thorn thorn
The best you could do is set a macro that casts step and kicks
thorn thorn
what, today? people can top my stupidness?
We have no idea what the future holds
humble verge
We have no idea what the future holds
i will top it myself
thorn thorn
But the answer is yes there was worse
There is a certain unnamed individual that was dumb enough for whispyr to block
rain mortar
Is there such macro to shadowstep to ur focus target and also kick it? and not s...
#showtooltip
/cast [target=focus] Shadowstep
/cast [target=focus] Kick
You just have to press
It twice
balmy condor
me
no
there are 3 people in this discord I have blocked
one I believe just doesn't play anymore
the other only shows up once a patch to post stupid shit
thorn thorn
So far I have just the 1
solar cipher
!up
prisma monolithBOT
supple ether
ty
balmy condor
and then the guy from earlier
glacial lantern
How';s assassination aoe and funnel?
haughty flicker
thorn thorn
Mine is also the guy from earlier
balmy condor
How';s assassination aoe and funnel?
very good
thorn thorn
balmy condor
I don't really like blocking people
glacial lantern
But pure st is dogshit with the m+ build, right?
thorn thorn
I dont either cuz I like to talk shit
balmy condor
I'd rather passionately yell at people and try and understand where they're coming from
balmy condor
like vram is chill most of the time
glacial lantern
So basically you must pull into boss if you want sin rogue to deal decent st
balmy condor
I don't mind the guy
I wouldn't block him over some petty PTR difference of opinion
as heated as it may get
but some people wear me down over long periods of time
thorn thorn
I make an effort to bait any yellow name that comes in here
Except zac
zac is cool
glacial lantern
Who are we taking about here by the way?
rain mortar
like vram is chill most of the time
You’re cool too even though sometimes we all get a little grumps
glacial lantern
I agree with basically anything zac says so no
thorn thorn
His plate is already full
thorn thorn
I am compelled to say that legit 80% of the shit I say is pure nonsense and you can just assume im posting nonsense
humble verge
lads
there is only me and a woman here at the gym
do i kidnap her and stockholm her into my gf
harsh anchor
quick tuck your tail between your legs
thorn thorn
there is only me and a woman here at the gym
If a silver alert goes out im calling the authorities
glacial lantern
I also hate caustic splatter, only working with mutilate is annoying
humble verge
If a silver alert goes out im calling the authorities
were not even in the same country, and we dont use those alerts most of the time
young sun
When I manually rupture targets should I use max combo points or just as few as possible?
thorn thorn
were not even in the same country, and we dont use those alerts most of the time
This seems to imply you live in a country where it would be legal
quasi ledge
What is the talent that gives me max combo points when I use rupture on a target without dots or something. I cant find it 
latent verge
What poisons to use as rogue TWW s3, bleed build
thorn thorn
What is the talent that gives me max combo points when I use rupture on a target...
Its bonespike but its only full in aoe
latent verge
Mythic +
worthy shell
Assa power
