#assassination
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if you were hitting 6 KBs in a fight before, you'll hit 8 now
As a 0 set gamer
but KB is just kinda... there
most of that is from the 2 piece
Whispyr how long have you been doing youtube now?
idk like 2.5 years
yeah see
ahhh when you first released your video did it get any views ?
Ima fart

I was always to shy for doing youtube content but i was like ky
veza is such a cool fight
let me upload it
i dont know why but editing is kinda fun to do
but mabye thats because its my first video 😄
will you be uploading more fights from this tier ?
yeah probaly all mythic bosses
i dont know if i wanted to do HC
@balmy condor peep the trinkets, think ive used all of my luck too early
What's your channel ? I would be intrested to learn and look at pov
You streaming the raid next week whispyr? I wanna take notes 
pacemaker 
Check dm
yes, will be streaming keys and stuff too
When my prime comes off cooldown im hitting you with that bro
you better take it up in your ass
will do
cant believe we have to do floodgates again, and why is it sub's best passive trinket from m+ -.-
Who doesn’t like floodgate
i saw someone saying in a twitch chat that they should have hadded seat of triumvirate
Somehow dawnbreaker got voted in so thats tragic
EU players smh
I blame eu but pretty sure na voted it too
Dawnbreaker is the worst dungeon in the game
DB fine
just kinda broken
they should just park the boats in m+ so stuff doesn't constantly fall through them
well idk if "just" is the right word that might be a pain the ass
but they should know that boats don't work in this game
we are gonna get dawnbreaker back in a few years in other expansions 😄
!fuu
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
is there something with the ST dummies in dornogal that the caustic splatter is just not working on them or am i missing something. I have deadly poison, i'm mutilating, i'm envenoming and still no green pool under them.
Also do i not know something, i noticed my tea is sometimes using the charge on it's own, i have it macroed with shiv but i noticed it's using a charge outside of me shiving
caustic spatter has no pool and does no dam to main target
so yea, i'm just dumb. Thanks for claryfing that 😄
and tea has auto-use built in now
thanks a lot guys, and sorry for a stupid question ;x
Well it is weird that caustic isn’t on your damage breakdown
Are you fighting cleave dummies
that was ST so now when i double read that it makes sense
i just mistaken poison bomb with caustic as Bel said
Can I recraft my everforged stabber with new spark and crests?
I haven't yet but 99% sure yes. When I go to the crafting dude it shows you can
@balmy condor can you explain for me the difference in trinket/pot usage for deathstalker and fatebound?
if I move it onto deathmark the 3 high adds a vertical scroll

I guess I could flip the two
Lmao
I dont mean to laugh but that was not the answer I was expecting
Godbless this man
we love tool limitations
Y r u a tool
You know, im happy the answer ended up with me not being an idiot
But simply a silly wowhead moment
both is good
whispyr are u doin a plater profile for this season
before i try to make the 11.1 profile work for 11.2 lol
yes will update soon
sick
Thats bait
the returning dungeons are great but tf is rashanan doing back
at least give him kyveza treatment lmao
nah give him the bubbles treatment
if we dont go kingsbane (bleed build) for m+ isnt it gonna make our ST dmg significantly weaker?
your statement implies kb does damage
it helps st dmg doesnt it?
no shot
bleed single target is okay on short fights
im being frfr
aight
or the dream 2.20
anyone got a nice combo point weak aura they can share please ?
depends what build
bleed
i dont believe so
aighty
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Fok Conditions Post-Buff
Fan of Knives as a generator to replace ambush/mutilate:
- Baseline 3+ targets, -1 if talented into momentum of despair and thrown precision, +1 if talented into vicious venoms, +1 if talented into blindside. (Generally 5 with raid build, 3 with Bleed m+, 2 with Hybrid m+)
Fan of Knives with Clear the Witnesses Up: - Baseline 2+ targets, -1 if lingering darkness is up or you aren't talented into vicious venoms. With Vicious Venoms casting during lingering darkness is dps neutral.
Fan of Knives with Darkest Night Up: - Only on 2+ targets, or without Vicious Venoms talented. This is also a very very minor optimization
The most important to remember is the generator rules, clear the witnesses and darkest night optimizations can be effectively ignored as they are not meaningful DPS improvements
might be wrong bleed build only one im not sure on lol but
!macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.
#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane
Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket
S2 bleed build ST was better for me than hybrid (kb)
Only if I got 2 deathmarks with one in execute window tho
I’d imagine S3 it’s negligible difference but will have to see
should we be going fatebound before new tier for single target raid fights?
Looks like it
how would you play it without tier? hold everything until you get 3 flips in a row so you can finally use the combo?
sounds kinda stinky
you just play it the same way and prayge you get lucky coin
and if you dont cause a wipe and go again
i just smacked the dummy off n on for like 30 min, only once on opener was i able to get the 7% agility bonus lol
my rng is bad... ill use that as leverage to get 4pc first
with my RL, it wont fail im sure
Bleed is chill you just put your dots on the boss and coast.

The rng is fixed by the 2pc the 4pc is just cdr
Idk how much of a gain it is to refresh imp garrote near the end of the 12s window
on ST
if this is intentional you can ignore me and call me a noob but the guide recommends vv for fatebound in the talent section BUT when you click fatebound in the rotation section for st it populates vanish and ma automatically
guys anyone useing Kingsbane timeline by lisonna ?
i am not sure how to set up the shiv thick properly.. anyone did that ?
true, that's messed up
forget it

Hi friends, really new to assa, is it normal to be starved for energy on ST? As in boseses?
!design
Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. As a burst spec our damage is mainly loaded into Deathmark/Shiv and massive Envenoms through stacking multiple nature damage buffs such as Lingering Darkness, Shiv, Darkest Night, Amplifying Poison, and more. This comes with the natural downside of our damage suffering outside of these windows, in part due to the designed lack of energy slowing us down.
Because of this, there is only one minor (0.3%) min-max with energy, which is pooling 3-4 seconds into an upcoming Kingsbane. Ideally this would put you at around 50-60% energy before you enter your Kingsbane, which is more than enough energy alongside thistle tea. Outside of that, spam Envenom and just accept that you will run out of energy. There is nothing you can do to not run out of energy. Playing around Envenom uptime also is not relevant anymore, as Twist the knife allows for two stacks at a time, which reduces wasted uptime dramatically. Without twist the knife, wasting uptime is unavoidable.
do we swap to fatebound on 2pc2pc
you swap fatebound because it's 11.2
oh shit, right away huh, out of gate
can sub and assa share gear?
yes
But whospor, why is my overall in a key is 2 peanuts

fb onyl for single targhet correct ? bleed is still deathstalker ?
!fotm
FOTM Info
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Fatebound is not playable in any AoE situation, and ESPECIALLY not in Mythic+. Don't bother.
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Tuning is nowhere near done and realistically won't be until mid-September; unless you enjoy playing rogue there is no point in you rerolling at this time, we don't bring anything impactful (e.g big aoe stops/party buff) to the group
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PTR sheets and PTR sims are borderline misinformation with how rapidly things are changing and most sims are not currently updated at this time. Again, this will fix itself as we get deeper into the patch and things solidify, but judging a reroll off of PTR tier lists and random sims or seeing one guy pump super hard on a stream is not indicative of anything.
whats stats should i go for when crafting? for both sub and assa
mastery
and the other one can be anything?
quick bleed question since i was a hybrid guy and bleed looks real good this season - how do i know if im rupturing too much before going into ct on larger pulls?
pretty much yep
ok thx
is it more than 5? too much
ik you want the important monsters but what if there are so many important monsters
oh ok
i thought blood guy got alot of dmg from ruptures
we do
ty
you can rupture after that if you want
but sitting there in giga aoe delaying CT is insanotroll
oh ok so rupture twice then ct then more?
ty
or do i go like rupture twice ct dm then more ruptures
assuming the monsters live
that's fine yeah
appreciate it
you don't have KB and you don't have amp poison
so DM is less of a thing you need to babysit
and more of just a button you throw out for more prio

whispyr do you know how to set up the shiv thick in Lisonna kingsbane timeline for new tier set.. ? i am confused a bit
mm oko
Anyone know if the rupture bug is supposed to be fixed? It seems like on larger pulls i still full combo point rupture on a target and still goes off and doesn't apply?
whyspr another fast question .. in fb single targhet rotation why vanish after Kinsbane ?
haven't seen that just suddenly going out of range can start cast but fail it at last second
you hear like bte click but no bang or sbs start but no hit
double jeopardy
never heard of that bug
have you maybe got it on a mouseover and are hitting another target?
tnx tnx i am blind it seems ffs getting OLD
you guys ever remember someone then you see them later and you're surprised they continued aging for some reason?
facebook is is good for that, people from highschool frozen in time in your mind that you don't see
then suddenly you see a post and you're like
LOL yo old hahaha
wait so am i 🙁
did you switch target while the global happened before rup applied?
Let me try to explain in better detail (if I can). Outside of Indiscriminate Carnage or trying to reapply after on that target lives longer enough. Ill sometimes have a bug, maybe visual. That pressing rupture it consumes my combo points but won't apply to my target ( Im using lux wa to track) and once the "bug" is happening I've tried
Multiple full ruptures on it sometimes 3 times and it doesn't look like it applies
erm
did you get parried?
im fairly sure you didnt run out of energy in aoe in ic
Not sure maybe the mob had some sort of immune? Or something and im blind
bleed immune mobs are like
No engery issue
an extinct species
or a mouseover macro hitting a different mob or some shit idk
ye plausible too
did you tab target something with rup on?
dunno
you're the only person I've ever heard of this happening to
would assume it's something on your end with fucked ui or something
id say just revert to rupturing the same mob 2-3 times
if this is happening with any regularity
Yeah i wasn't sure if it was just a visual/wa thing
can also check with logs
Its very hit and miss
if it's a visual or game impacting bug
just log yourself at the dummies, try to reproduce the bug
Ill try to log it next time and pay more attention. If it does happen
np, if you can reproduce it or figure what causes it we can formally list it in the bug list that I hope blizz sometimes checks
It just happens so rarely that I forget to pay attention mid run to see why
That sounds like a parry
Its on big pulls were im just trying to zug
quick question anyone know if the phase regulator item is consumed or reusable?
I was more curious if anyone heard anything. Its probably just user tbh like most issues 
Sounds like user issue
nvm its not consumed and can cancelaura
For M+ do u run crippling or numbing poison?
usually numbing or atrophic
crippling is just a movespeed slow
not really that useful
compared to like
giga tank damage reduction
or some all damage reduction for party
When doing 5 targets at once does it feel like we are constantly having to apply rupture? (without any Vanish charges)
I was told to keep rupture on at least 5 targets at all times
what are we liking for mythic atm ?
yep
what are we liking in terms of what, for mythic what
spec?
talent?
hero talent?
mythic raid?
mythic+?
class?
video game?
Damn assa opening every dungeon with 40-50 mil
you get one guess
Is nice to see
How 
ok ?
Ptr
I peaked at i think 5.5 mil yesterday and was hyped about that 
@balmy condor we got an aoe pi list anywhere
you'd make an awful bride to be
My 25 day old wow brain was like: DAMN THATS BIG NUMBERSS
not assa
its a really hard one to guess
its not
Is it really not ?
we're not among the upper echelon of specs but deffo above middle i think on bleed build
no

Compare it to frost or arcane
doesnt that contradict yourself ?
PI is absolutely useless for non-bleed assa, like bottom of the barrel, and bleed makes it like maybe mid
So normal in M+ to feel like you are getting few envenoms than back to rupture spamming? Do we go back to apply caustic splatter instead of using FoK to get CP as well?
What's PI sorry?
penis inversion
the issue is unlike the biggest haste abusers the energy gain from it is kinda worthless under cds
Power Infusion, 20% haste for 20s from priest

Noted. Thanks
wasnt it 15% or 15s
well normal in m+ you open from stealth and things don't live a full 40 seconds for that to kick in realisitically
I just think the funnel would be kinda insane in m+
they nerfed it
maybe idk i never get it
i seem to get pi a lot when i play outlaw
@balmy condor So M+ we opt out of reapplying rupture since things will most likely not live 20+ sec?
its real strange
PI sub ftw
dont forget killing spree going zoom with haste
but yeah i told em yo im litterally worse than a tank to pi
Meh outlaw haste tax is pretty shitty to have
he still pi'd me next pull kekw
you just open from stealth and that usually is good enough for everything, if you need energy or scent you would want to rupture, but at that point the original ruptures have already fallen off and the pack should've been dead 15 seconds ago
For stagger pulls is ambush vanish ambush on main pack viable
@balmy condor are you gonna update your wa (afenar) for s3?
doesn't need an update technically, there's nothing to track, but yes there will be a slight visual change
Around the level of aa ?
Honestly
Just pi frost tbh
Frost dk disgusting with it
Looks like afflock is the biggest winner for pi
Might main warloc eventually a more loved class for sure
i think some one mentioned it yesterday but did we include the on use no cd trinket into sims?
https://www.wowhead.com/item=240171/observers-soul-fetters
For me right now better than pacemaker
its good yes
Do I understand it right btw, that the Set Bonus for assa is useful as in that Shiv is using a stack from deathstalker mark so we can proc it faster? And duration increas ofc for more dmg?
most of the benefit comes from the increased effect of deathstalker effects
but yes the stuff you mentioned is fine
Got it
I read through almost all of the Set bonuses, and I thought ours looked by far the simplest 
will prolly get fixed but the reason its goated atm is that it doesnt share cd with other on use
Yea double onuse is very fair
is Deathstalker ST better until we get 2p?
no
ok, thank you
!wa
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Going on vacation in an hour
will be back next sunday
missing launch and 1st days.........................
!macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.
#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane
Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket
Can smene link their death mark + potion macro
#showtooltip Deathmark
/cast Deathmark
/use 13
/use Fleeting Tempered Potion
/use Tempered Potion
the one from cauldron
ah
So, with the shiv macro
Is it always warranted to slap a thistle too/
I legit, have played rogue for 2 days now
yep
!tea
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.
#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane
Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket
yeah assa good
Eluisiveness vs cheat death./ Prefference or
thoughts on the new 1 shot to flawless hm taz for myth track loot?
been seeing then normal grey parsing andys complaining about it and i wanted ur thoughts
play cheat until you get one shot by unavoidable mechanics and your forced to take elusivness
erm lol
you only gt one toon done lil bro?
lil?
Delves done on 5 toons (pls help) Dungeons done on 4 toons(save me)
ive got many toons i just started playign retail again after a month
ive had 1k delves before it was mainstream
just run mines,its fast af
cant take more than 3 min
worst case scenario you fail week 1-2 and then overgear and smash the rest of the season

oh well
people will mald because they don't get everything
it's a rewarding challenge
and realisitically you're powercapped by crests
so it's kinda whatever if you fail out a couple weeks idk
bigger than my head
cant do anything with so much heat,just gonna curl and eat icecream and dirnk water
yeah it's been rough here too
Wont just be the grey parsing andys can tell you that much
Tell me about it
Tazavesh hard mode was already pretty weird with some of the mechanics, some pretty good players did it with 707 ilvl scaling + unsocketed cyrce to sandbag, and they had multiple deaths
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Also Whispyr do you have any Video guides on Assa? I didn't find any, maybe I also didn't search hard enough
stuttgart oder was
Köln haha
achso
I'm making a new one tomorrow
for s3
have a fatebound guide up though
Will check
should be up monday morning for you
Cheers. Will check
w take
Im honestly glad im not there week 1 for that taza shit cause my guild will probably implode
just hoping people get their shit rocked so hard throughout the run that it cant be pinned on a single person cause then there’ll be drama
even in the hottest day the temperature at night is fine,u can sleep
try sleeping in 30C
rly hope a freaking iceage hits the stage
i dont like this heat at all
Yeah I don't envy you, I hope you will survive

🫶
30-ish is what it's hit here during the day
and I still sleep almost naked, without a blanket
Sleeping in 30 seems
Uhh
Yeah...
its 11:12 here and its 36.8C but we got 3-4bF winds
once the winds slow down we are boiling
Where you located? Spain italy?
is bleed the go for s3 or is hybrid still better?
Oh wait
Greece currently
Vacation?
Half Greek,working here
Must be a dream and nightmare at once
during sumemr prolly the best place for vacation
the most depressing,disgusting,repulsive place to live during the rest of the year

Bleed iirc, even though I like hybrid
onyl with new tier set or do we stay hybrid with the old tier set for now
Oh I am the wrong person to ask this lmao, I just read it yesterday when I asked questions myself
Maybe @balmy condor can help
they're all viable, bleed will be best at all points
for me it's the reverse, I hate hotter Mediterranean countries in summer but like visiting in winter
As a citizen of this coutnry ild say ye,that applies if u are coming for just a visit.You cant live here,its insanely expensive for the money your get from working,its leading nowhere.Its crazy how this nation exists under such circumstances.
people thinking assa gets pi in giga aoe
Oh hell nah
that is what I said as well
We just had fun in ptr
I know it’s bad
Ye whispyr how can you convince them with that Rio bro
mb king
Why you have a sub flair and not sin 
Meanwhile ppl don’t know when I look for Assa knowledge I dm whispyr
Back into the LFG mines, Whispyr
Whoopsie
Chop chop
bro forget LFG

this approach doesn't work
for my command line sims
cause frost dk and frost mage
I'm gonna commit sudoku
I'm in far more pain than LFG could ever provide

Whipyr is Phil Jackson while casualaddict is Jordan
Μερα μωρη υγρασια :3 (sorry for the greek)
I make the comparison of belichick - brady all the time but the euros don't get that reference
Brady deflated balls though AYO
yeah casual could deflate my balls too have you seen that jawline
so true
who's tom brady
exact same case across the water in egypt, where I'm from
hold on need to google
idk how people actually survive
one of the best american football players of all time
what's like the soccer equivalent of belichick brady
yeah egypt is much hotter than us,its extreme heat there
guardiola/messi?
yeah that works too
Or Chelsea
messi is the top,no one is better,10star chef
me llamo jose morinho
Ronaldo prolly the best ''athlete'' coz messi was lazy
The Patrick mouratoglu to serena
that's even less well known than brady I feel
THere’s a great show on Netflix called the playbook
They interview top coaches from different sports

Are you still in method casual
I was never in method bruh
but are you still in method or not
I swear I feel like I saw a headline that you were
You will see me in rwf when 6 or less chars are needed
Did I dream it
probably poorer than greece though xd
Truuuuuuue
bro he's got "casual" in his name
13 characters being prepared is wild
you don't like m0 splits?
13? More like 23
wouldnt take a vow over it 😂
yeah 13 maybe going into this week
He’s pushing keys 12 hours a day don’t let the name fool you
yeah like a split funnel
splitception
1% improvement better do delve splits 
How does blizzard fix splits forever
I’ve thought about it
thing is, isn't the champ loot useless until they get hero track for free upgrades?
Like unless you MAC address ban people that make multiple accounts it’s not possible
so this is litterally all for trinkets?
you do like 300 characters to get 50 characters to get 20 characters to split 10 of them and then you run 2 and then you run 1
And my ultra casual guild master compares me to top tier players
Cus shadowlands they had personal loot and mufukas still did splits
Difference is they had to pay people 5 mil for Jpc tier piece
it's actually really easy but would kill the game
Helpers made way more money back then
Cus you had to hand the loot over and be geared to trade it
make it like other games where loot is just sidegrades or of no power increase
They still pay a lot for gear
viola, no point for splits anymore if it provides no power
We did boost echo last tier 10’s first days for like 600-700k per person per run
They pay crazy amounts
How come whenever.i check they are offering like 150k
or, hear me out, the base of the item doesn't matter as much as the upgrades, and then you make an actual upgrade/progression system on your items instead of weekly capped crests and fucking stupid valorstones
I wonder if they gonna ask tabes hard mode deathless
Hmmmmm
That’s lowkey brilliant but it would trigger the player base if we base everything around progress mythic raiders would giga gap casuals more than they already do
But also loot rng
what is the point of splitting
They would still do splits
depends on the season but normally it takes towards the end of the reset for non top end to start farming weeklies
but for what
Unless every piece is dropping
hmmm
What was legion system again, just ilvl?
why would they not just grind more AP instead on 1 character
titanforging, artifact weapon
Artifact power was super cringe though
it would be for trinkets / titanforging ye
Made me quid mid legion
Never raided nighthold
Also not getting my bis legendary until the end
LIL
got Argus CE THOUHH
is fatebound kingsbane hotfixed yet?
give me 2 piece and I'll go find out
I’ll boost you to 1600 when server opens up whispyr as long as you catalyze 2 champion or veteran pieces insta to rest 
In pvp obviously
Fastest way to get the cats charge haha
Cata*
we raid 4 days on raid launch
Damn
raz was rough
we were like world 10 on heroic sark though
that was neat
not much of an accomplishment to brag about
I had a guild who said they don’t care about rank. Make people raid 12 hours in aberrus on a Saturday first week
considering all the good guilds were just splitting the first 5 bosses for a week
but ya know
Killed sark on the last pull of the night of first week cus I told RL why are we making random healers dispel; just assign 1 dude
Cus homies were dispelling and knocking people off
Random times
Sark was such a funny fight for random dispells
Yeah
It was extremely fun in pugs early on
Pugging it was still brutal for months after
yeah it was hilarious
Also like "okay so the one place you don't drop the black hole is on the red marker"
I had to make them jump on voice
is there actually any fights in the raid you would play fatebound?
And raidlead like I was max
Calling everything out
Just to kill once with a pig
Pug LOL
roughly half of them, yes
Which ones ?
If dimensions is tuned like garbage or is another 50-100 pull in the race they should just shut the servers down and end the game
And only with 4p i guess ?
Dimensius
he is quite big
Yeah? Ok
Gally missed a phase
Change my mind
Echo going to sleep thinkin ah we’ll get it tomorrow boys
dimensius is weird cause like the dungeon journal SAYS there's stuff that needs to die
🧢
but there's no model for the adds
so like
do you have to cloak to kill them?
are they physical adds?
do you have to swap?
how many are there?
we have no fucking clue
I know you probably have to cloak to teleport
Like in that delve
To platform lookin ass stuff
there's a flying phase with the cloak, yes
Maybe like ansurek
Ah
but like until we can actually see dimensius and know what the adds actually are
I just chucked fatebound in
But yeah if they do another aberrus or undermine tuning I think people are gonna care way less about the race
if there's a shit ton of adds then I guess deathstalker
Also liquid losing their Honda thing people say it was cus of that rainbow six guy but in reality they also dropped their PvP sponsor 3 months announced in advance, I think people investing in mmo esports realized the juice ain’t worth the squeeze
I'm employed, what does any of that mean
i think there's money there - blizzard are just uninspired
They need to be like riot for their esports not like Nintendo
im fairly sure nintendo has massive esports scene for competitive pokemon no?
among smash bros etc
Yeah but they cuck their smash scene all the time
And use their ip to ban tournaments etc
issue is it's a fighting game community
Took them out of evo too
nintendo ain't the kind of company to cater
Yeah but at least don’t stand in the way
there's a lot of super cringe beaureacracy in japanese licensing
True
look at bloodbourne
But trust matters also; Blizz said they’d distribute half the money they make from the transmorph toy
Then said ah the tournament was costly so then took that shit
lmao
Dota at least fundraises for the worlds finals
And prizes go up to 11 mil or. Whatever
they need to figure out how to commercialise the gameplay into revenue generating entertainment
too little transformative processes from blizz imo
Yeah and they put some clown as head of awc
im talking shit like fearless draft et
c
dont let awc finals be mirrors of the last 3 matches if it can be helped
Long time ago they had a world first race in person at blizzcon
Do that shit again dawg
Rent out a stadium
It ain’t, the interest is there
more invested players would love it
I’ve been to sold out Madison square garden league games with faker and shit
but the majority would have to be drawn in
If league can do it wow can do it
thing is do you remember league esports s1-3
it was around 4-5-6 they really developed it
blizz need to lay proper foundations like riot did early on
Season 1 was ass but 2 onwards was lit
it's not too late
And the money they dropping was huge
also pve is naturally less interesting to watch than pvp
since it is scripted assuming proper play
Cant wait to pay 150 bucks to watch a day of splits in MSG 
Omg
Obviously they’d have to fix splits before that
And it would be on a tourney realm or some shit
Maybe a rwf tourney realm where they start with their copied gear from last season
And when they win their achievement goes to live
RWF just isnt interesting enough to watch in a live setting
Its great for background noise entertainment
Yeah that’s fair I guess ,cus it takes too long
That’s what arena has over ref
Rwf
i have read on WoWhead guide that the good race for rogue is Orc. But is it a normal Orc or the Mag'har Orc? 😄
struggling on what i should drop for iron wire coming into higher keys
ever since the patch my fps dropped from a stable-ish 144 to ~50 at worst points (like Tazavesh) - if someone is still suffering from drops, just disable Optional GPU Features in the graphics settings. Turns out it’s not weakauras or addons
Oh nice, thanks! I have also been having frame problems.
nothing
is ther a section about when to drop tier or run 2set 2set anywhere or not sure yet
you drop when you get the new tier
all 4 set?
oke ty ty
whispyr i couldnt find it in your guide, but is cereal a soup or a salad?
a soup
sorry 😄
technically yes, but you would never use that little milkl
any realistic level of milk would be a soup
ive recently seen a clip of somebody sayng they use 2 bowls for their cereal, one with the cereal, one with just milk, and then they put the cereal on the spoon, dunk it in the milk bowl, and then eat it for the "perfect milk/cereal ratio"
well, not dunk, just submerge for a second
what the fuck did I just read?
my gf's work family does that

ye theres a few sleeper agents like that out there i think
do they use like a communal milk bowl?
cuz theres no contamination issues there is there?
no
well ig there is
they have their own
ah oke

the parents are management at apple/google
I think the dad is like a PHD in physics and does work with like lasers and crazy shit for camera development on iphones and stuff
bro just scribbles calculus in a notebook like he's writing a grocery list
a rank
It’s a bug
any time there is timegated rank x/y power item it gets bugged and peopel get it early. you could redo the campaign on an alt for an extra rank
Ah i see
is it not 2 extra ranks?


also i think you could restore it to 707 afaik
is it worth upgrading a veteran dagger to 691?
Yes
what should i craft with spark, as a returning player? ;d gear is kinda whack
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I crafted my dag yesterday already and will upgrade when I have the crests
I didn't see when to swap from the old tier set to the new in your wowhead guide. Is there a rule or just sim?
any viable way to solo a t8 delve as rogue? my brann is lvl 19
Depending on gs I guess
i have bran llv 69 a im solo t11

are the undermine stories still in delves
what ilvl are you Schulz?
669
If so there's an abyss one where you only have to kill last boss
That may be a tad bit low
i could solo fungal until last boss, where brann just insta-died
🙁
new delve its easy
which one?
idk any real method for grinding up brann other than u doing lower level ones
archival assaault
ill try that one, dont wanna grind up brann
yh started like tww like 2-3 weeks ago
I liked the one on day one or 2 where you had to just collect boxes
well the gear from delves might honestly be good for ur slots anyhow
They changed it tho
Hey lads, how would Assa fit in a physical comp compare with outlaw? do i lose to much if i go assa over outlaw?
yes 😄
dont think anything over 660 drops from less than t11 no?
Can only see up to 681 craft, but I guess it’ll be updated once the season start?
Same here brother
691 iirc with the new spark
Highest quality
And since its BIS anyway, why wait if its a nice upgrade already
Which it was for me
Ye
i legit dunno, I wasn't looking when doing mine
!up
@spring oar ^
when I recraft something, am I able to add an embellishment then?
I just can't recraft the embelishment off?
Never tried ^^
i assume you can't
since its just not letting me
having hard time wrapping me head around this system
You can
You replace it with the grifta powder
Which is essentially an embellishment that doesnt do anything nor take up one of your slots
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so they have an embelishment that just does nothing and doesn't apply to the unique-equipped cap?
Yes
He's located near the portal that sends you too azj kahet or whatever that zone is called
oh yeah this guy
They give +2 sparkle wdym
A shame the gear pieces dont actually sparkle tho
In DF, it was +1 Sparkle. So by the end of the worldsoul saga, we'll hopefully be on +4 sparkle
So much sparkle
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is possible to deal with kyveza with assassination rogue? 687 ilvl?
i mean yes is possible but is megahard
too much damage even if you do the mechanics
Its tuned for s3, so yes it will be hard with s2 gear
Remind me, for fatebound do we just macro cold blood to something?
kingsbane
Kyveza with Sin even at 680 its finger in the nose
It doesn't have the Sub's problems
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sure bro, a finger in the nose
You should know bro, everyone here is mechanically gifted
smh my head
what's the optimal point in the opener to put my finger in my nose?
Compared to sub, where you have to manage your dance so you don't lose aggro and a ton of burst, in sin you just have to watch out for
- What's under your feet
- How your camera is oriented
Litterally
is sin bis next season for keys?
i'm BiS for next season
who knows
is that u in your pfp
a what
profile picture
yeah Royal is an anime character
i got that part
you didn't know that?
Hey, I'm doing Ky'veza I was wondering, is there a way to hide the visual of poison bomb ? Like it's hiding too much things
yes its me
thanks
I just realised
We’re gonna have to try and get the 2min raid trink for deathstalker
It’s fucking doomed
did you guys already craft something this week?
Correct me if im wrong, but we have to craft offhand dagger and wrist right?
Probably yes. I crafted dagger already because it is a new rogue and I need the item level next week.
does it make a difference if im crafting the dagger now, or waiting for next week?
I didn't play in season 2, so it's basically also an undergeared character
You'll want a dagger nontheless
either MH if you dont get myth track asap or OH
dagger + wrists SHOULD be the optimal way
alright ty
If u wait for next week AND are able to farm 60 gilded crests you only need to craft once. Otherwise you craft now and when u get 60 gilded you recraft.
It isnt that expensive
What embellishment on the crafted dagger?
darkmoon sigil ascension
Hey everyone, i'm new to rogue this season and I am more of a video/ visual learner. There seems to be a lack of an Assasination rogue youtube guide for 11.2. Can anyone recommend one?
@marsh fjord omw
u want me to stream it btw?
@thorn thorn is a witness of ur 3m bet
hope u dont chicken out because this is the easiest 3m of my life
you have both whispyr and shindigg on youtube
They have M+ guides?
Whispyr will release a new Rogue Assassin Guide tomorrow or the day after
For Season 3
Anyone else having issues with finishers not consuming death stalkers mark?
Use at max combo points not at 5.
Theres a lot of janky shit happening in the new zone too, could be one of those
If thats where its happening
It’s been happening to me everywhere honestly. And we have to use max combo points instead of 5 now?
No, 5+ except when darkest night is up
Okay well hopefully my stuff stops bugging out then lol
Any WA recommendations for dot tracking?
which dagger should I craft ? siphoning one ? havent played since SL
Not siphoning
Everforged
This epic dagger has an item level of 577. It is crafted. In the Daggers category. Added in World of Warcraft: The War Within. Always up to date.
Dis
ok, any reason why we want the stabber over siphoning which has agility and a bonus effect?
it uses an embelishment slot
a bad one
so you craft a stabber with ascension then wrists with writhing
Hey guys, wondering which build is better in single target before having tierset ? Fatebound or Deathstalker ?
Oh I don't know if Subtlety or Outlaw craft different daggers
oooh we can add one to stabber got it
I can only speak for Assa
they dont
Oh ok
its stabber
im fairly sure fatebound is stronger in pure st
For raid its like this, posted by Whispyr multiple times
even w/o Tierset?
probably
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i want crit mastery on the dagger right ?
i have low crit / average mastery and a ton of haste so I think crit mastery should be best, im gonna try to sim
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please craft the stabber
!macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.
#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane
Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket
yes i'm doing the stabber
i just need crests
thanks for the help guys
Is this somewhere on wowhead? I can only find old raid. Or will it go live next reset?
I just reposted it from Whispyr
Sorry
with the new trinket "unyielding prism" are we just using off rip or holding CDs?
I am looking for that exact part on wowhead since 3 days haha
you wouldn't delay your cooldowns for the trinket to charge up. you just accept that you don't have an on use for your opener and use it like any other trinket
Why is casting CB and KB at the same time optimal?

You want the flips from KB to be the same
Or well, you want the envenoms after kb to flip the same as the previous
reading the hero tree to understand how you got the 7 flips in a row for the lucky coin
For some reason i thought edge case was it's own buff
Instead of giving you 1 of both XD
So i forgot you would have 1 stack of either or before the cds
its like 5ish % stronger even without tset st
Yes.
how do I get the crests for the dagger ? did a t8 and t9 delve and i only got Carved
Yeeeeeeeah kinda
yes Runed





