assassination

[balmy condor]

so scary

ooooooooo

spooooooooookie

[haughty flicker]

[humble verge]

did u see the post someone posted on competitivewow

analyzing preheats run

[haughty flicker]

send me 2m gold when someone dies on hooktail

[humble verge]

https://old.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveWoW/comments/1mls4uc/detailed_analysis_of_how_realisticfeasible_it_is/

[balmy condor]

no, I don't use reddit and I ESPECIALLY don't use wow reddit

that sounds cancer

[haughty flicker]

based

[humble verge]

i can assume you use tiktok then

[haughty flicker]

only thing worse than wow reddit is wow discords

[balmy condor]

wow reddit is just class discords but with more people that are blindly overconfident in their intelligence

[balmy condor]

incorrect

reddit is far worse

[humble verge]

on reddit

[thorn thorn]

Wow reddit detected

-500 social credit

[haughty flicker]

i wouldnt know all i use reddit for is cat videos

[balmy condor]

reddit users as a community are just far more braindead

[humble verge]

people can somewhat still say anything they want

without people instaresponding

[balmy condor]

like using reddit is actively -IQ

[haughty flicker]

[humble verge]

unlike here

we are balling today btw

joined in on a boost where i didnt know anything

[thorn thorn]

People on reddit legit got a debuff or something that is -50iq

[humble verge]

and got 120k for free

[thorn thorn]

There are some trashcan takes on there

And only people with a fundamental misunderstanding of the game can chef up some of them

[humble verge]

wait

wrong

[humble verge]

r/LSF

[haughty flicker]

Counterpoint

[thorn thorn]

I have no idea what that is

[haughty flicker]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Eyebleach/s/DH8SZlwxXJ

[thorn thorn]

Ok fine

People on wow reddit

[humble verge]

has anyone here bothered to do all the active WQ with contract

on main and alts

im thinking about it

[thorn thorn]

brother

I could barely be convinced to unlock the cloak

[humble verge]

sister

😭

[thorn thorn]

If it wasnt required I wouldnt do it cuz im lazy

[lyric spindle]

Hi is Whispers Plater updated for the new season?

[hexed root]

do you enjoy any community?

[humble verge]

jesus, tinderboxes was expensive back at the expac start

[haughty flicker]

the glorious tinderbox delve farm

[hexed root]

those were some fun times lmfao

[umbral sierra]

how do we feel about tanks who constantly chain pull in m+

never letting mobs from a previous pack die

[hexed root]

we blame our faults on them

[main bridge]

!chainpull

[prisma monolith]

Explanation of why stealth benefits aren't as important as you might think:

• For starters, "Chain pulls" are NOT when the tank pulls a new pack with 1% hp remaining on the previous mobs. That is called "Bad Tanking", and it sucks for everyone in your party.
• Correct Chain pulls usually happen while the previous pack is still alive and not dangerous. This increases uptime on more targets, which is the biggest increase in DPS for the entire party. This is also the biggest reason why you see high key level players doing so much damage.
• Garrote is roughly 7-9% of people's damage in a key, most of which is already empowered/cleaved
• Most energy spreading will come from Rupture to maintain scent of blood, not garrote
• Without a Trace (+1 vanish charge) only grants roughly 2 additional casts across a whole dungeon, but does allow for holding vanish for large chain pulls which improves the quality of each vanish
• You can argue that it "feels bad", but numerically there is very little ground to stand on, the dps simply isn't there.

[proven willow]

reddit is goated just not for games. game reddits are for people who think their opinions matter

[proven reef]

guys can anyone give me tips on how to improve and figure out my rotation the best, i've looked at "raw rotation on wowhead" and i keep doing it but my dps is atrociously bad, i know im doing something wrong just dont know what, so any tips?

[umbral sierra]

ah

so if tank just walks in with a pack sub 5% hp on previous pack yell at them even more cool

carry on

[balmy condor]

Without logs it’s really hard to know where you’re going wrong

The wowhead rotation is correct though, it’s the resource we all use

[proven reef]

tbh im so lost with assassination LMAO, after warrior and warlock this is the first biggest wall i've hit with any class lmao im so lost

[humble verge]

what is the wall

[zenith coral]

man i just watched the fatebound video, i reallly hope its viable, it looks fun af

[proven reef]

yeah i dont doubt it, im playing bad just dont even know what is going on xd

[kind flint]

just play bleed 4head

[proven reef]

idk my dps is so bad its sad XD

[coral ibex]

well nobody can help you if you dont provide specifics or a log

"lol my dps sucks" isn't actionable

[humble verge]

atleast show your overall

on details if u dont have logs

[proven reef]

yeah i'll provide smth

in a moment

[humble verge]

to "decipher" somthing

but lads, am i wrong to have done nothing with these items yet

[zenith coral]

i got every piece of haste gear the game could offer
:(

[humble verge]

those wrists

have leech and a socket on them

:3

[quiet oriole]

We talking bleed build?

[humble verge]

but the thing is, i need a spot where i can use writhing banding!!!!!!!!!

[zenith coral]

boots

i think

[humble verge]

no dingus

were getting the 4th boss boots

for extra reshi procs

[quiet oriole]

Wrists and oh

[humble verge]

i have wrists laready

thats the shite

i kinda wanna use these but

[balmy condor]

Craft a belt then

If you don’t wanna use wrist

[humble verge]

🧌

im probably gonna use wrists but

we'll see

[buoyant herald]

You’ll replace delve belt anyway

[humble verge]

do we even know how soon tho

myth track?

[balmy condor]

Bro is worrying about 684 wrists

Insane

[balmy condor]

710

[humble verge]

im worrying about my sanity

[balmy condor]

I’m worrying about your intelligence

[humble verge]

that doesnt exist

[balmy condor]

Clearly

[humble verge]

maybe thats why women dont approach me

[balmy condor]

No, they don’t approach you cause you’re fucking weird

[humble verge]

[balmy condor]

They don’t pay enough attention to you to realize you’re an idiot I’m afraid

[humble verge]

whispyr why you gotta be so real

[zenith coral]

so where is the tc fatebound m+ build

i need it

[fallow canopy]

In one of the circles of hell prob

[balmy condor]

!fotm

[prisma monolith]

FOTM Info

• Fatebound is not playable in any AoE situation, and ESPECIALLY not in Mythic+. Don't bother.

• Tuning is nowhere near done and realistically won't be until mid-September; unless you enjoy playing rogue there is no point in you rerolling at this time, we don't bring anything impactful (e.g big aoe stops/party buff) to the group

• PTR sheets and PTR sims are borderline misinformation with how rapidly things are changing and most sims are not currently updated at this time. Again, this will fix itself as we get deeper into the patch and things solidify, but judging a reroll off of PTR tier lists and random sims or seeing one guy pump super hard on a stream is not indicative of anything.

[neat flame]

In season 2 what was the damage penalty for not doing dry shivs?

[balmy condor]

0.5%

[neat flame]

bless you

[zenith coral]

😡

[balmy condor]

I didn’t sneeze

[humble verge]

i wonder when we will hit the crest cap removal

how long did it take last season

i forgor

[buoyant herald]

11.2.7 probs

[balmy condor]

Yeh I’d assume if you’re capping crests and mythic raiding

You will cap your gear before they uncap crests

[humble verge]

ofcourse

[royal lantern]

literally the biggest mistake is overthinking stuff, assa is really simple overall

like, your basic gameplay loop is just: Keep Garrote/Rupture running, and then dump CP into envenom

CDs are used togheter on CD, and thats kinda it

[zenith coral]

in the bleed m+ build you pool shivs for DM or no?

[royal lantern]

pooling is a dead concept for a long time now

[spice surge]

You should have 2 shivs for DM yes

[zenith coral]

so just send shivs

wasnt talking ab energy

ty

[royal lantern]

oh sorry

pooling = energy in my small brain

[zenith coral]

<3

[glass spade]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[gritty laurel]

if you play iron wire you get to just slam shiv on cooldown (mostly) and help your DH tank not just fucking die

[royal lantern]

sorry, but i have to jump in the middle of the pack and then jump around a corner

[humble verge]

iron wire mentioned

mood ruined

[gritty laurel]

you being upset about iron wire tracks

[humble verge]

no

im upset people using iron wire

[gritty laurel]

[royal lantern]

but why

[humble verge]

dps loss

ok so like

what do you remove ultimately to get IW

is it not double shiv

[maiden sierra]

yes

[gritty laurel]

it is

[humble verge]

which i feel is a gigaloss

because if your group is dependant on if you use iron wire

then idk

should be a non issue to not use

[maiden sierra]

iron wire bis with pugs

in a premade its useless

[humble verge]

i havent used iron wire since october

[haughty flicker]

just only do 12s where it doesnt matter if you kick or not

[maiden sierra]

or play with a prot paladin

[fallow canopy]

Preach

[humble verge]

i almost got s1 0.1% without iron wire

[maiden sierra]

god i fucking love prot paladins

actually can unbind kick

[thorn thorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1181688324734320752/1347913156671832145/paladintank.gif

[humble verge]

me when i go into 3 mobs

[maiden sierra]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/611326455019733014/1233053949305684049/test23456.gif

[humble verge]

with instahit

no defensives

tho i do prefer these two ML gifs

https://imgur.com/A6FDF2s

[maiden sierra]

this is why vulpera is bis

[humble verge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/650765025623015455/1356331532700225731/6FLQfnP4PvB_nIw5jj_7dA-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif?=

[thorn thorn]

https://imgur.com/A6FDF2s

[humble verge]

why iddu repost

[thorn thorn]

Remember lads dragons are griefers

[humble verge]

the same one

i did

yallo?

[thorn thorn]

Its a different one

[haughty flicker]

shut up nerd

[thorn thorn]

Bro?

[humble verge]

no

scroll up

i posted both

[maiden sierra]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/650765025623015455/1356331532700225731/6FLQfnP4PvB_nIw5jj_7dA-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif

[humble verge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/650765025623015455/1356331532700225731/6FLQfnP4PvB_nIw5jj_7dA-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif?=

[thorn thorn]

You stole my content

[royal lantern]

Nose for Trouble

[humble verge]

nononoono

[maiden sierra]

honestly on my dk its soo good when i play blood

[humble verge]

lads

[thorn thorn]

https://imgur.com/6yTR1eW

[humble verge]

do we hope for hero track tier on wednesday

[haughty flicker]

personally i prefer this one rather than what you posted but yours are good too

[humble verge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/741275386188529734/1372656620034592869/3882ade1b2e0cab5893c24ec180af244.gif

[thorn thorn]

I do this on my priest when I have a mage in my group

[rain mortar]

I want to ask a question, and I’m so prepared for Whispyr to yell at me, but so be it. Anyone know why the sims for best trinkets are so vastly different on the new liquid website vs bloodmallet?

[balmy condor]

there's a liquid website?

[humble verge]

damn

liquidarmory.com

or w/e

[haughty flicker]

water.com

[maiden sierra]

liquid website uses deathstalker

telents

[humble verge]

https://www.liquidarmory.com/

[humble verge]

AINT N OWAY

[balmy condor]

yeah

[rain mortar]

Liquid released one and they say it’s “better than bloodmallet”

[balmy condor]

the liquid website is using the season 2 profiles

[rain mortar]

lol

[balmy condor]

this isn't updated for season 3

[humble verge]

hurb

[rain mortar]

Nerds

[thorn thorn]

Me when I lie

[haughty flicker]

[humble verge]

so like

[royal lantern]

its so funny checking healing done on a vulpera tank after a m+ run and seeing Nose for Trouble at #3 healing done

[humble verge]

for raid, are we actually running FB?

[balmy condor]

??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

[haughty flicker]

gotta compete with maxroll somehow

[balmy condor]

equipment

empty 707 ilvl

very cool

what

[maiden sierra]

so real

[balmy condor]

yeah honestly idk why RWF guilds are doing this thing lately

when we already have bloodmallet

[humble verge]

they did the 40% mastery, 35% crit, 15% haste 10% vers rule

[fallow canopy]

Farming their fanbase

[balmy condor]

some classes like priests have their own thing anyway

[rain mortar]

Is this supposed to mean something?

[thorn thorn]

If it doesnt come from Sael or whispyr I assume its misinformation

[nova gust]

hi, is there a workaround for the bug when deathmarks do not work after switching targets during darkest night?

[maiden sierra]

tbf their website is very much a work in progress

[haughty flicker]

does sael prefer deathstalker or fatebound for raid

[thorn thorn]

Neither because Sael doesnt do rogue stuff

[maiden sierra]

but still they advertised it while its half baked

[thorn thorn]

Whispyr does

[maiden sierra]

which is cringe

[balmy condor]

I mean that's just explaining very basic trinket comparison but with a bunch of extra nonsense embellishment to sound smart

[fallow canopy]

Is sael the lizard guy?

[humble verge]

"Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat. Duis aute irure dolor in reprehenderit in voluptate velit esse cillum dolore eu fugiat nulla pariatur. Excepteur sint occaecat cupidatat non proident, sunt in culpa qui officia deserunt mollit anim id est laborum."

[haughty flicker]

yes

[thorn thorn]

Lizard and priest guy

[haughty flicker]

saeldur is a stinky lizard

[thorn thorn]

He is the one that almost got destro locks to press rof in ST

[balmy condor]

the explanation is technically not wrong

but it's also like

[fallow canopy]

In a better timeline

[gritty laurel]

it's like a restaurant menu

[balmy condor]

that's just exactly what bloodmallet does

[marsh fjord]

helloooooo

[balmy condor]

they're basically saying "we're doing the same thing bloodmallet is doing, but we're slapping a liquid sticker on it and hope we can siphon some ad revenue"

[haughty flicker]

yeah but bloodmallet doesnt have my favorite rwf guilds name on it so why would i use it

[lethal swallow]

!macro

[proven reef]

Aight guys, if someone can give me some insights what im doin wrong, sry about fps it drops a bit when i record. https://outplayed.tv/world-of-warcraft/84J5Xo

[waxen oyster]

siphon the ad revenue from the chumps who dont use an adblocker in 2025

[balmy condor]

lemme take a look rq

damn those trinkets are aids

okay right off the bat you didn't ambush

so you don't have a hero talent

that's like -30%

wait

you ambushed after

whack

fine okay

[humble verge]

now this is just sad

[zenith coral]

crimson temp too

[balmy condor]

okay yeah you full setup and then start tabbing

just hit the damn thing again

where are you going

carnage will spread

crimson tempest is wildly late

you let it drop a couple times

you let garrote drop off your main target

it's still not up

[waxen oyster]

cheapshot on a mob

[balmy condor]

HOLY CHEAP SHOT

[waxen oyster]

[balmy condor]

yeah I mean the rotation in general seems okay but it's just sloppy

[umbral sierra]

this man wants to go to the pvp chat with that cheap shot ngl

[humble verge]

cheap shot in this economy

[maiden sierra]

not to be toxic, but jesus christ

[proven reef]

thats when i said whoops i know i messed up XD

HAHAHAHA

guys i know im bad ffs

[balmy condor]

like you don't need to be tabbing for those bleeds

[proven reef]

its my first time playing rogue

[balmy condor]

just stay on the mob

[zenith coral]

just give him the fatebound build pls

[balmy condor]

you have all of this

and it's been 5 seconds but you haven't pressed a second garrote

bleed build = spread bleed

stay on your marked target

and just hit garrote/rup

[umbral sierra]

we arnt roasting u to be mean just trying to help

[proven reef]

if i hit garrote / rup on my main target will it spread from main to the rest? or thats just the thing from stealth?

[balmy condor]

that's the thing from stealth

but you're not really using it

[fallow canopy]

Indiscriminate carnage talent

[balmy condor]

so you need to use it

[proven reef]

aight

[umbral sierra]

from and for 12 seconds after leaving stealth

[maiden sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/young-ruckus-gif-13612451841215634696

[proven reef]

okay okay imma be takin all that info into the account thanks

seems a bit hard

like

feel like bleeds drop 2 quickly

[fallow canopy]

We all started somewhere dw just keep the guide in mind and practice

[umbral sierra]

only need to maintain 5x rup tbh

[zenith coral]

once you pandemic refresh itll be easier to maintain

[humble verge]

how does one achieve this

[zenith coral]

ur only spender outside of bleeds is envenom

[proven reef]

yeah and i use it on my main target with caustic spatter

so basically its just hard thing keeping all of the damn bleeds up

xd

[umbral sierra]

once u get decent crit%

[maiden sierra]

god that skirt anoyes me

[umbral sierra]

1 fok will give full cp

[maiden sierra]

its too short

[proven reef]

oh damn

[umbral sierra]

thats da point

[maiden sierra]

naaaaaaah

there is an acceptable levels of short

[haughty flicker]

you could probably ask whispyr nicely

[umbral sierra]

yeah not acceptable in normal dayu to day shit but

i can see it working just fine if it was a concert or sum

[maiden sierra]

im too old for this

(23)

[proven reef]

what do you mean with this (hit the thing again xd)

[umbral sierra]

aside from tab ruptur sprteading outside carnage

u only hit ur marked target

[fallow canopy]

Stay on your target that has the deathstalker mark

[balmy condor]

so your opener you went uh, lemme transcribe

garrote -> rupture (with 3cp, puke) -> ambush (at max cp cause of bone spike so you just overcapped all those cp) -> ambush AGAIN so you overcap even harder (should fok) -> ambush AGAIN still overcapping (should be fok again) -> tabbed onto a second target, did nothing -> tabbed onto a third target -> rupture so now its finally up on all 5 -> tab back for ANOTHER ambush (not ovcapping this time but still not spreading garrote) -> envenom (which would be fine if you had CT up, which you didn't, cause you overcapped like 10+ cp earlier) -> now you run out of carnage and you can't spread bleeds automatically if you wanted to -> mutilate to keep caustic up -> now you CT -> mutilate again (still should fok) -> 20 seconds into the fight we press deathmark now and everything is super hella duper giga fucking late and we're sad

so instead of doing all that nonsense

don't target swap

stay on your target

[coral ibex]

pray for this man, the pain in his future is greater than he can imagine

[zenith coral]

ik you hate me for all this fatebound talk but wowhead guide has it as ST raid, using it on ky'veza, viable or am i trolling?

[balmy condor]

ambush (for mark) -> gar (for the combo points+spread) -> rupture (for the spread) -> bone spike will fill your combo points -> rupture again for the other targets -> ambush/mutilate for caustic -> garrote for the other targets -> crimson tempest -> now you cooldown and shiv and slam envenoms

[balmy condor]

ky'veza is single target is it not

[proven reef]

thank you for taking ur time to explain all this i appreciate it very much man

[balmy condor]

fatebound looks good to me

[haughty flicker]

ur gonna wanna garret 1 garret 2

[zenith coral]

kk ty <3

[humble verge]

we love garret

we hate garrote

[fallow canopy]

Old pasta but checks out

[humble verge]

wait so whisp

[balmy condor]

if you need to compartmentalize it more, always ambush from stealth first GCD for the mark, then your only goal in life is bleed things, get CT up, when you have your bleeds up you cd, caustic, shiv, all that, spam envenom

[haughty flicker]

fatebound is great on kyveza until you vanish and she resets

[balmy condor]

ambush -> bleed -> cds -> envenom

[proven reef]

but like u know when i vanish or from stealth, after i put garrote and rupture will i need to do all of the ambushes

[humble verge]

have u done FB in undermine yet

i assume yes

[proven reef]

that are left?

[balmy condor]

No

[quaint spindle]

full 5p 691 champ set or 5p 684 tier set from season 2? anyone sim that

[balmy condor]

You fok in aoe

[proven reef]

aight

[balmy condor]

Ambush/Mut in aoe is just for caustic

[proven reef]

deal

[balmy condor]

Is this serious

[zenith coral]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[humble verge]

wait is there even any pure ST in manaforge omega

🤨

[balmy condor]

Yes

[haughty flicker]

fractillus

[balmy condor]

Two bosses

[haughty flicker]

and first boss might as well be

[balmy condor]

Arguably 3

[haughty flicker]

loomithar probably close

dimensius might be mostly/entirely st

[humble verge]

sounds like something in latin thats defines the penis in someway

[quaint spindle]

srs as a heart attack - I was under the impression that the 2p/4p is not that strong and was wondering if pure agility would outweigh it

[haughty flicker]

you might need to see a doctor if that describes your penis

[vivid seal]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[humble verge]

me when my penis has fractillus

[balmy condor]

Nothing in offense to you but just to convey the gravity

Hell super fucking god no

Tier set bonuses are 8-10% each

[quaint spindle]

thanks king

[balmy condor]

It’s worth like 40 ilvl

You will want to do LFR for tier

It’s that good

[marsh fjord]

im seeing you in LFR

and gonna grief you

[humble verge]

so

[marsh fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/ferass18-gif-7869831930024597864

[humble verge]

are we gambling

for 4 heroic

tier first week

[marsh fjord]

What you mean with gambling bro

[digital venture]

so we going for 2set + 2set or we only swap on 4 set?

[humble verge]

getting 1 from delve in vault

[marsh fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/sim-simulate-gif-8199108223823847654

[humble verge]

getting 2 pieces from m+

and getting 1 from raid

thats a gamble

[balmy condor]

Instantly as soon as possible yes

[thorn thorn]

"Hell super fucking god no" is now a favorite phrase

[marsh fjord]

you guys dissapoint me

by not doing the sim picture

[balmy condor]

Idk why people think the tier isn’t worth equipping

[humble verge]

im gonna murder some simulationcraft

[balmy condor]

When it’s so fucking insane compared to anything else

Like idk where I went wrong in the messaging

[digital venture]

delightful.
Also can't wait for your plater settings :p

[humble verge]

i love that

[balmy condor]

But not equipping a tier set that’s like +9%

Is insane

[fallow canopy]

How are you getting 2 tier pieces from m+ week1?

[brazen maple]

In the middle of a pull do I want to put rupture and everything on the adds if I don’t have indiscriminate carnage?

[marsh fjord]

You know what, i was in a discord with a shaman from a other guild and he had the balls to tell me we only play fatebound on one boss

[humble verge]

you do know we have 2 catalysts

[marsh fjord]

i set him straight

[fallow canopy]

On week 1?

Honest question

[humble verge]

yes, check the thing

[marsh fjord]

2 catalyst? on week 1?

nah thats bait

you get 1. and need 2k for other one

then yes

[humble verge]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

do you want me to log on

i was about to go to bed

[marsh fjord]

uber

the scharges

[humble verge]

either that

[marsh fjord]

are from last season

[humble verge]

or my fucking eyes

are seeing shit

[marsh fjord]

not this season mate

[humble verge]

no they arent

wait

[balmy condor]

Uber did you prep anything for this tier

[marsh fjord]

im pretty sure they are

[balmy condor]

Like ANYTHING

[marsh fjord]

😄

[humble verge]

what do you consider "prep"

looking up guides

doing delves

m0?

i have not looked at any kill videos from PTR

[marsh fjord]

let me log in right now

[humble verge]

NO IM LOGGING IN

i am co0+safocjiasojid

[marsh fjord]

IM LOGGING

YOU STAY WHERE YOU ARE CUTIE

[balmy condor]

I mean just in the last like 2 hours I’ve seen you be giga clueless on like 4 basic knowledge things of the patch idk

[humble verge]

yes

[haughty flicker]

[humble verge]

i dont prep

my guild preps

[marsh fjord]

[balmy condor]

You don’t know the charges or the raid fights or anything

So it’s like

[humble verge]

i am a VISUAL

learner

[balmy condor]

What are we doing

[humble verge]

yeah

thats true

[balmy condor]

Yeah good excuse

[humble verge]

no

i unironically said this

for last tier

and i got benched only on stix

[balmy condor]

“I’m a visual learner so I’m not learning anything until it’s in front of me”

[humble verge]

pretty much

[marsh fjord]

NO CHARGES

[humble verge]

maybe i should just quit wow

go play FFXIV again

[marsh fjord]

Finally

😄

[thorn thorn]

I know nothing

Dont know sparks, charges, how to gear or how to do raid fights

[marsh fjord]

But we get one charge next week. and then you can get a charge for 2k

[thorn thorn]

I just login, do weekly raid, then run keys

[balmy condor]

That’s not what a visual learner means

[zenith coral]

this kyvveza is for adderal gamers or im washed

😡

[humble verge]

i am visually impaired

[marsh fjord]

hahaha i pulled it 200 times bro

[balmy condor]

Mentally*

[humble verge]

whispyr actually calling me the r word

[strange python]

I believe it

[sonic zinc]

i killed it as outlaw and im over 30

[balmy condor]

No I’m just saying you got learning disabilities if you can’t learn anything about the patch you’re currently playing unless you’re standing in front of the fight clueless about what’s about to happen

[humble verge]

wait did they nerf kyveza ??

[humble verge]

yeah

[marsh fjord]

Honestly do you know what hleped me the best. there is this weakaura thats gives you a line on your character so you can aim yourself to the clones

[balmy condor]

Either that or you’re just giga lazy

[humble verge]

no im gonna look up the guides soon

giga lazy

[haughty flicker]

wtf dont call me out like this please

[maiden sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/recovering-grip-on-reality-cat-cat-inspection-gif-26954108

[zenith coral]

yea thats what im struggling with is the dashes, felt like ? had some give with lining it up, now it has to be dasmn near perfect

[balmy condor]

Tiny steps

[humble verge]

you know what i thought

[fallow canopy]

Someone mentioned turning off anti aliasing helped

[humble verge]

when i was doing ?

i thought you had to line the dashes up

[balmy condor]

Dangerous

[humble verge]

into kyveza

[humble verge]

https://tenor.com/view/333-gif-16633742758176803867

[fringe spear]

I have disabilities

[zenith coral]

maybe its time to cancel sub :( but grats

[humble verge]

tbf

i feel outlaw has better survivability

because of their vers stacking

[balmy condor]

It does

[humble verge]

over assa

even sub has it easier

[marsh fjord]

Assa survibality wasnt a problem when i killed it

[humble verge]

shindig killed her yesterday i believe

[balmy condor]

Well known tanky specs are tanky

[humble verge]

the ?? version

[balmy condor]

[maiden sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/i-didn't-ask-vp-baines-devil-may-cry-i-wasn't-interested-in-that-i-didn't-want-to-hear-that-gif-8784742643127348749

[marsh fjord]

yes

[balmy condor]

Interesting opinion

[fallow canopy]

Didn't you try like 300 times?

[humble verge]

im not clueless, im GIVING YOU THE INFORMATION

wait

u killed ?? as assa

PauseChamp

[balmy condor]

I have information for you as well

Sky is blue

[marsh fjord]

.

[balmy condor]

Don’t tell anyone though

[maiden sierra]

is sky trully blue?

[marsh fjord]

@humble verge

[humble verge]

is the sun really yellow

[maiden sierra]

what is sky

and what makes it blue

[balmy condor]

There’s a patchwerk fight in raid (every raid in fact, but you didn’t seem to know that so I wanted to tell you)

[thorn thorn]

I feel called out

I am giga lazy

[fringe spear]

sorry I had to share anyway

Think its the disability

[humble verge]

there is WHAT?

[balmy condor]

Sorry, I forgot you’re hard of hearing

[maiden sierra]

you already are with the anime profile pic

[balmy condor]

I SAID

[marsh fjord]

300 time is a stretch. and the problem wasnt my surviability

[balmy condor]

THERE IS A PURE ST FIGHT

IN THE UPCOMING RAID

EVERY RAID

HAS A PURE ST FIGHT

[vapid terrace]

Why is dad yelling 😐

[balmy condor]

Uber’s hard of hearing

I gotta speak up

[maiden sierra]

uber got brainrot

[fallow canopy]

Maybe I worded it aggressively mb, I just remembered you mentioned you were like on pull 200 yesterday or the day before

[waxen oyster]

Uber is what we call

[marsh fjord]

i pulled it 202 times and i killed it

[waxen oyster]

a “specialboye”

[balmy condor]

Bro he hits filter

[humble verge]

wait

wtf

i cant post with the big text?

ok

[balmy condor]

Of course not

[humble verge]

i cant talk louder

[maiden sierra]

what about small text?

[balmy condor]

Should be fine

[maiden sierra]

-# yes?

[humble verge]

then he wont hear me

[balmy condor]

But obviously we blocked people from using headers

The spam was crazy when they added that

[humble verge]

alright

didnt know

[fallow canopy]

Nice

[maiden sierra]

damn all the headers are blocked

[balmy condor]

Yeah, that’s a trend

[maiden sierra]

maybe if i try again it will work

[humble verge]

damn

i tried the "middle" header

[vapid terrace]

Anyone else add a lizard sound board button to their guilds discord?

[balmy condor]

When it’s difficult to think about things, you tend to not know a lot

So it checks out

[humble verge]

but have you tried to live

wait

it didnt give me colour

[balmy condor]

Waiting

Did you not think again

[humble verge]

no

i just used the wrong markdown

[balmy condor]

You’ve gone like 0-7 in the last 30 min man

Maybe just hang it up

[humble verge]

# maybe this will work better

what do you mean

0 and 7

im literally

24

[balmy condor]

You’re actually so dumb it hurts

[maiden sierra]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/780377679227650079/1143175175391674418/Viberge.gif

[marsh fjord]

i remember me and uberscot had the trinket talk

good old times

[humble verge]

maybe im just

being stupid bait

[balmy condor]

I’ve not seen you be intelligent

So I’m unconvinced it’s bait

[proven reef]

@balmy condor aight ur explaination just boosted my dps +2 mil Xd thanks, i see now how bad it was

[marsh fjord]

crazy btw how much fatebound heals me

[balmy condor]

Glad to hear it

[humble verge]

does bait have to be intelligent

[jaunty sky]

Bait has to be intentional

[balmy condor]

No but if you’re an idiot and you’re like “I’m just baiting that I’m an idiot” that’s not bait

That’s just what you are

[humble verge]

[marsh fjord]

btw i was kinda suprised about the cloak damage

when i killed ky'veza

it did 3.6% overall

[balmy condor]

Yah

They buffed it by 190% during ptr

[humble verge]

how many attempts did it take you

[marsh fjord]

203

[humble verge]

damn

id rather play bf6

[marsh fjord]

was good practic for fatebound

[jaunty sky]

I did 20 or so today, dying on cd to first daggers or dashes

Very fun fight

[marsh fjord]

yeah happend a lot to me

[humble verge]

i got to like

i forgot

[jaunty sky]

Literally skill issue and not annoying design, very fun to learn

[humble verge]

i remember atleast almost getting to 2nd into the shadows

or w/e the ability is called

[marsh fjord]

But the thing is this fight is kinda a DPS check

because if you dont kill her in around 10-11 minutes your def almost dead

[jaunty sky]

I got 10% down in first burst i think its gonna be fine on dmg

[marsh fjord]

Yeah you are fine then

[jaunty sky]

I do like that the auto attacks dont do like 25% of my hp in there

Hated that on underpin

[marsh fjord]

Here i died after 1 minut

[haughty flicker]

underpin literally tickled you

it was just the adds that did any damage

[jaunty sky]

Nah i had death logs with 2.5mil autos on my rogue

[marsh fjord]

on some pulls fatebound coin tails did so much damage tho

[haughty flicker]

idk, like you'd get slapped a bit on pull but brann easily kept you up on underpin

zekvir hard gear checked you with autos early though

[jaunty sky]

Yeah it was fine in the end but i didnt like it being part of what u had to manage

Bombs were annoying enough

[thorn thorn]

UBER

[jaunty sky]

This one is 10/10 i hope i can beat it before they touch it

Gotta learn how to count to six and ill be fine i think, idk why but i kept thinking its 5 dashes

[humble verge]

hm

[marsh fjord]

Wobble what helped me are two things. i had a weakara with a line to position myself to the clones properly. and there is a setting called outline mode. if you put it up on high. some people seen red lines across the clones to make them more visable

that didnt work for me tho

[thorn thorn]

UBER WHICH ROGUE ARE YOU PLAYING

[humble verge]

have u checked out my rogues

ew

stalkur

[jaunty sky]

Nah i can see em fine, i just didnt get myself to count em

Mechanic felt done after 5 so i went back to blasting

[marsh fjord]

i just blasted music never count them 😄

[humble verge]

but its either one of these https://raider.io/characters/eu/twisting-nether/Sergeito
https://raider.io/characters/eu/sylvanas/Sergei
https://raider.io/characters/eu/twisting-nether/Sergeitri

[marsh fjord]

I also recorded the fight im thinking of mabye uploading it to my youtube

[humble verge]

probably gonna play my nelf for m+

and orc for raid

[jaunty sky]

I think ill spend the rest of the week in there, only other thing i wanna do is farm rares for transmog

[marsh fjord]

yeah there isnt much to do right now

[jaunty sky]

But the set i came up with needs the shoulders from maxed cloak

[marsh fjord]

thats why i did this challenge

if m+ was out i woulda just grinded that

but honestly when i killed her

i was so freaking pumped

you have no idea LOL

[jaunty sky]

Zekvir i was just reliefed i was done tbh

[humble verge]

@thorn thorn did u die

[marsh fjord]

when are we getting a raid tier with only solo encounters and rankings 👀

[jaunty sky]

Wasnt fun anymore bc it was like 3 fail checks repeating

[humble verge]

never

cause like

most class or OTP specs will be crying

[jaunty sky]

Kill egg > remember to interrupt heal > dodge > repeat

[humble verge]

[jaunty sky]

Spec ranking

No overall

[marsh fjord]

yeah i didnt do zekvir so no idea

[humble verge]

no but like

[thorn thorn]

play nelf

[marsh fjord]

spec ranking would be dope on solo encounters

[humble verge]

most specs or classes do benefit

[thorn thorn]

Orcs are stinky

[humble verge]

from there being adds

[jaunty sky]

You can only be best assa not best dps/rogue or player

[humble verge]

oh

solo encounters

you want logs for kyveza ??

😭

[jaunty sky]

Im sure you could run a speedkill competition for her

[humble verge]

when did u choose

[thorn thorn]

Now

[thorn thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/despite-all-my-rage-gif-22554865

[thorn thorn]

he want grass

[humble verge]

no, weed

[late gulch]

Weird question but if am gonna mainly push keys and do casual mythic raiding on the side would you go rogue or dk. Both are alot of fun.

[fringe spear]

-# are these banned too

they arent

pog

[main bridge]

both are good. for me at least, it would depend on what the rest of my comp is. if you're just pugging then whatever

if you're just pugging i'd probably do my best to get out of that situation and make some friends/get into a guild because everything is more fun with friends IMO

[late gulch]

Yea would semi pug . Pushing keys with a warrior tank

Ofcourse hard to answer. As i understand rogues are stronger in keys but dks are Kinda not far behind and better in raids.

[balmy condor]

they're not invasive and disruptive

[analog idol]

!plater

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[haughty flicker]

that wasnt so bad

really fun fight

way better than underpin or zekvir

like 100x better

[winter moth]

is Ass behind sub enough in ST to have to gear both?

[jaunty sky]

If u gear sub u also have assa gear

[winter moth]

I suppose, thought ass needed mast>crit and sub needs mast> vers, but I could be wrong

[humble verge]

both pretty good, dk has in most peoples eyes better util + brez class

[humble verge]

how many

[haughty flicker]

i didnt keep track

probably uh

[wicked carbon]

How much consistent damage do you guys do on 5 Dummies ? I think I'm doing something incorrectly

[haughty flicker]

75-150 maybe im not sure

but a fuck ton of those were me dying to the very first daggers or some shit

[humble verge]

lol

[haughty flicker]

i went from 48% best pull to kill

[humble verge]

but

did u go assa

[haughty flicker]

deathstalker assa

[humble verge]

ok

[haughty flicker]

rotating cloak>evasion>feint+vial

was enough to survive the portals

[humble verge]

portals?

oh

nvm

[haughty flicker]

ye the big succs

thats the only time you're in danger

outside of being one shot

[jaunty sky]

Portals are fine with feint+brann vials no?

[humble verge]

i forgot we take damagecthere

maybe thats why i keep dyibg

[haughty flicker]

it gets a bit scary near the end but yeah its enough

sometimes the brann vials despawn just as it starts though which is fun

[marsh fjord]

Every portal i did. feint - cloak then feint - evasion - feint - dwarf and rinse and repeat

[haughty flicker]

i wasnt going to do it this week but then i saw tettles did it

and i wasnt going to be worse than tettles

[marsh fjord]

yeah fight is cool lol

[wide atlas]

hi sorry if its off topic

[digital venture]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[wide atlas]

but what are the best ways to farm valorstones

[wicked carbon]

World quests and spam hm i think

[haughty flicker]

honestly i kind of always just get enough from running dungeons

oh the chett list in undermine is good for some fast valorstones

but only once a week

its a few hundred total though i think

[proven willow]

stealth skips are pretty good this season

[humble verge]

will we know m+ score for catalyst by tuesday 🤨 🤨

[proven willow]

im confused by the order of the words above

[haughty flicker]

its always just 2k isnt it

aotc, 2k io, or 1600 (i think?) pvp rating

[balmy condor]

it's the same amount every season yes

uber is just saying dumb again

[haughty flicker]

[balmy condor]

bro is the most clueless person in the discord today

it's actually unbelievable

[distant fog]

yo

is ratfang toxin op

i have done the math

its op

[balmy condor]

we called it "the ratshit trinket" last season

if that helps

[distant fog]

im using it to catch rats in rgame

[keen spruce]

Uber is just using all his attention to acquire more clips of that weird japanese bunny

[distant fog]

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-cute-japanese-anime-happy-gif-10625840

[haughty flicker]

wrong weird japanese bunny

smh

https://tenor.com/view/fran-final-fantasy12-ff12fran-ffxii-fran-ffxii-gif-17967535

he means this one

[humble verge]

oh, i was confusing the mount with catalyst

that was me just forgetting

[balmy condor]

they're.... the same rating

there's a mount at 2k

and a mount at 3k

[haughty flicker]

[balmy condor]

I'm starting to question if he plays the game

[humble verge]

no, mount was 2,5k 1st season

i know this

[balmy condor]

at least you can know things from a year and a half ago

[humble verge]

also, im pretty sure s1 catalyst was 1,5k

or 1800

[balmy condor]

yes, they changed keystone tuning

[humble verge]

yes

[balmy condor]

that's why +12 is a thing

yes

[humble verge]

yes

[balmy condor]

what are we doing

[humble verge]

but i would assume its higher idk

[haughty flicker]

its ok uber i love you still

[balmy condor]

IT IS

[humble verge]

yes

[balmy condor]

2.5 IS LESS THAN 3

please

[humble verge]

so catalyst would be higher this season

than lasy

lasy

[balmy condor]

oh my fuck

[humble verge]

last

is what im talking about

[balmy condor]

there is a mount

you get

with the achieve

that also gives catalyst

are you dense

[humble verge]

bo

no

[quiet oriole]

Wtf is happening in chat right meow 👨🏼‍🦼

[balmy condor]

uber is ragebaiting me for the 15th time today

[humble verge]

just wondering what the

m+ score would be

probably higher than 2k

[balmy condor]

okay you know what

[humble verge]

for catalyst

[balmy condor]

I can't be fucked

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/mythic-plus-dungeons/the-war-within-season-3/loot-drops-mounts

read a guide

fuck off

[humble verge]

no

i will not

[balmy condor]

stay stupid

but don't be stupid in here

[marsh fjord]

its 2k uber

[balmy condor]

he doesn't believe us

bro is just

so fucking stupid

he refuses to listen to people who do know

and he refuses to educate himself

I hate this stupid bitch

[inland dirge]

[weary spear]

Uber

Ask what stats you should prioritize in s3 for assa

[quiet oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/ragebait-successful-another-another-successful-ragebait-black-gif-18435710051418180311

[humble verge]

what are stats

[balmy condor]

uber deadass next time you say some braindead shit I will mute you for like a week

and you can take the vacation to educate yourself

[weary spear]

Whispyr did you say you were dropping a YouTube vid soon btw

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-math-math-cat-numbers-cat-funny-gif-13385485103134761656

[balmy condor]

tomorrow

[gritty laurel]

now to get uber to say something stupid

[weary spear]

Perfect

I pray for an hour of napkin math

[vapid terrace]

Whispyr, what's your raid days and times? I wanna watch prog.

[balmy condor]

tues wed thurs mon 6-9pm PST

[humble verge]

ok but genuine question @balmy condor why does FB compare so badly in any AoE scenario over deathstalker - since i havent really looked at fb at all im just curious

[balmy condor]

since i havent really looked at fb at all

go look then

[humble verge]

yes

ok

[balmy condor]

I'm not your fucking chatgpt

fuck you

[humble verge]

:(

[balmy condor]

says dumb shit all day to piss me off

and then pings me some basic shit question

[coarse mauve]

will there be a update to the weakaura this season?

[balmy condor]

and expects an answer

holy hell

[humble verge]

:(

[balmy condor]

there's nothing really to track

[coarse mauve]

alright just making sure

[maiden sierra]

im starting to think uber wants to be muted for a week

so the best thing to do would not mute him because thats what he wants

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[humble verge]

why would i want to get muted

then i cang mp4 react

cant

[royal lantern]

allright

a big part of FB dmg is the instant dmg from tails flips, you know that?

[humble verge]

i didnt

[quiet oriole]

I looked up in chat gpt for rogue and it gave me this

[royal lantern]

well, that is dmg on your target, aka ST only

then FB has some talents that say stuff like "tails dmg increased if it hits only 1 target, this bonus is reduced for each additonal target"

aka the tails dmg goes down when you have more targets

then FB has a talent that gives you +1 cp everytime seal fate gives you additonal CP, but in bigger aoe you tend to drown in CP anyway, so it turns weaker and weaker with more targets

meanwhile deathstalker has literally almost all its nodes giving you benefits for ST AND AoE at the same time

or stuff like singular focus that are literally AoE based talents

so you have 1 hero tree that has all its talents being focused full on ST and get weaker with more targets

and the other that has all its talents being good in ST and AoE

[haughty flicker]

she does hate dealing with misinformed people

[royal lantern]

thats Fatebound VS deathstalker

[maiden sierra]

im trying fatebound out for the first time, GOD THE COINS ARE LOUD

[humble verge]

mangetakk whispyr 2.0

maybe ill try fb on kyveza ?? and see how it is

[gritty laurel]

that's the best part about it tbh

[thorn thorn]

Damn whispyr angry

[humble verge]

oh

[royal lantern]

the patch is a mess, shit doesnt work like it should, updates are rolled out that mess stuff up all the time which makes updating sims harder

and at the same time some guys go full dumbo mode

i kinda get it when he gets salty sometimes

[humble verge]

we still shiv but without the super cp

[thorn thorn]

Normalize calling people dumb

[humble verge]

ok time for sleep

[red elbow]

guys!how does 8target shiv interact with singular focus?and does singular focus affected by lingering darkness

[humble verge]

maybe the early bird me is smarter

[gritty laurel]

if it's residual damage like spatter is, then the damage amp on non-primary targets won't help, but the damage amp on the primary target will help

but i don't actually know if it's residual (assuming it is though)

[polar rampart]

chatgpt thinks whispyr is a little anime girl

[main bridge]

is it wrong?

[polar rampart]

it just looked at the picture

[red elbow]

Whispyr said it affected by spec aura and mastery

[marsh fjord]

he keeps talking about pegging me

so makes sense

[red elbow]

so i wonder if it affected by lingering darkness

or shiv

[balmy condor]

it is

[red elbow]

damn!ty

how does these thing work?it is like:
assume i got 100% mastery
100 actual damage to main target(after shiv,lingering darkness etc
100 * 0.4 * 1.18=47.2 caustic damage to other target
47.2 * 0.08 * 1.3 * 1.48 * 2 * 1.18=17.1 singular focus damage back to maintarget?
0.08 singular focus
1.3 shiv
1.48 lingering darkness
2 mastery
1.18 spec aura

[distant fog]

So

[balmy condor]

spec aura is 1.2 but yes

that's correct

[red elbow]

WOW

[distant fog]

@balmy condor are we trying to max out kingsbane every deathmark

Its not possible withoutit right ?

[red elbow]

thats really...

[balmy condor]

it's possible without dm if you're really lucky

but typically not possible, no

[distant fog]

But its garunteed with dm

Okay

[balmy condor]

yes during dm you max it out in about 5-6 seconds

[distant fog]

With set or without

My record kingsbane is only 20 mil rn on dummy

[balmy condor]

doesn't matter

[distant fog]

I feel like im hitting it noodle

[balmy condor]

set doesn't change how many poisons you apply

[distant fog]

Hmm

New set makes both 90 seconds right

[balmy condor]

fatebound?

[distant fog]

Ye

[balmy condor]

makes dm 90 and kb 45

[distant fog]

Holy fk

Thats insane

Need 4set asap

[balmy condor]

it's not that great

[distant fog]

Thank god im buying it

[balmy condor]

but yes

it's fine

[gritty laurel]

it's good but not really insane