!wa
#assassination
icy fox
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elfin fossil
Guys content creators put us in D tier for raid, are we doomed?? /s
brisk forge
Are u playing in top 10 WR?
elfin fossil
Did you notice the /s?
prisma monolithBOT
Bleed vs Hybrid vs Cleave/FI builds
Broad rules and Section in Guide:
- If you have to ask, you should play bleed
- If you're not doing +20's or higher, you should play bleed
- Even if you're doing higher, you should probably play bleed
- No, Fatebound is not good, you play Deathstalker in every key.
Some general concepts as to why people play different things:
- 11.2/Season 3: Bleed has gotten stronger through some buffs and the single target damage you get from singular focus is ridiculously good with the tier set. During PTR testing many high end rogues were just playing bleed everywhere.
- Ease of play: Bleed build is simply the easiest to play due to subterfuge/no kingsbane/less need for giant prio targets
- Boss damage: The cleave build is mainly for boss damage (note: not prio, there is no significant difference in prio). Assa single target in keys is pretty bad, and some bosses during season 2 were not possible on high keys otherwise. It remains to be seen what push keys in Season 3 will bring in that regard.
- Specific Dungeons: Rookery as an example is very boss-heavy, especially the last boss, making bleed less ideal. Rookery is not in the rotation in Season 3, and there are a lot of AoE dungeons. Dawnbreaker might be a candidate, but unsure currently.
- Where the damage is: Bleed spreads out its damage and does great overall due to sudden demise and powerful 3-8 target damage. Hybrid is competitve but doesn't pull ahead outside of low target cleave and higher target AoE. Cleave is for single target damage and insanely large aoe because of how much caustic and crimson tempest carry aoe damage. At the end of the day, the builds are extremely similar, but Bleed is looking to simply be the best.
slate crown
OOO this a good one yoink
random jungle
how do the shiv macro works? looks like it doesnt cast my tea
marsh fjord
!macro
prisma monolithBOT
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.
#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane
Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket
marsh fjord
just copy that
random jungle
i have that macro
but it just uses my shiv
shouldn't it cast tea too?
or i use the macro wrong lol
i see shiv has 2 charges but i only use 1
should i use both of them in the same time?
marsh fjord
!guide
prisma monolithBOT
Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue
marsh fjord
Go read up the guide bro
random jungle
yeah u didnt help me xD
marsh fjord
The guide tells you everything
if you are asking me if shiv should be used 2 times in a row no thats not how it works.
so please read a guide
signal sail
i love shiving 2x
rocky zodiac
Love me some self sabotaging in the morning
signal sail
remember to double vanish too
random jungle
the guys above xd
marsh fjord
rocky zodiac
Need to have some fun to Spice Up working saturday morning
But numbers is Kinda right. From pure Reading it seems you dont have all the fundamentals. So Reading a Guide is the right advice to give you
buoyant herald
was my understanding correct that araz's ritual forge is still so strong that you'll likely use that and just hold cds for 2min even if playing fatebound with 4set?
or was that some crackhead fever dream
buoyant herald
yeah i know
distant fog
So its a 3 min cd
buoyant herald
i thought i saw some chatter about that being the case even so
buoyant herald
ok so it wasn't a crackhead fever dream
distant fog
Theres no fking way
buoyant herald
it just sounds like one
distant fog
Our entire rotation is being dictated by one trinket
I might as well go back to outlaw with this fuck fest trinket
rocky zodiac
Did you read Forge? Busted Shit trinket giving 40k mainstat
distant fog
I stg
Yea guess its our “pooling”
Make assa 90 seconds make best teinket 2 mins
Great game
buoyant herald
Make assa 90 seconds make best teinket 2 mins
i mean you had house of cards last tier being held with 2min cds on every 2min class too
and spymasters was completely opressive in s1
rocky zodiac
Maybe they buff Lily Nerf RF
gilded stump
Morning - is bleed build still the go to build for mythic+ right now?
buoyant herald
yeah if they nerf forge they need to do it now though rather than mid season
buoyant herald
i don't think lily is a problem
distant fog
Imagine they remove forge and all parses just drop by 30%
buoyant herald
i like the idea of the unyielding prism too but not having a trinket on pull is icky
it's actually kinda just like RF but you get one less use lol
distant fog
So how is araz timed
fringe spear
you want to know whats funny
buoyant herald
just with cd's as per usual
distant fog
Hmm
fringe spear
Feral bis with power infusion plays a 678 trinket that drops from a rare
distant fog
Which is that
buoyant herald
Feral bis with power infusion plays a 678 trinket that drops from a rare
thats the big eyeball guy yeah? that trinket is also cracked
fringe spear
Observers soul fetters
buoyant herald
just held back by ilvl thank god
fringe spear
Yea
red elbow
morning - is there any way that can target ds mark in like 100mobs?
fringe spear
Currently it doesnt share trinket cd
So cat just goes with that + forge
Large burst
buoyant herald
Currently it doesnt share trinket cd
ok thats crazy and will surely get fixed
fringe spear
Its very funny
fringe spear
well its another 2min
buoyant herald
We havent simmed it ?
probably
buoyant herald
another cheeky secret is that the pvp trinket is usually pretty nice too
but it caps out at low ilvl
so few bother putting it in sims
but it's an easy quick farm that'll be very good if you get bad m+ luck in week 1 or 2
distant fog
Meh ill have enough luck
fringe spear
What trinkets does sin even play
distant fog
After i no death taz for tier
fringe spear
netherprism?
spice surge
Currently it doesnt share trinket cd
Its the type of shit that gets fixed the millisecond a few people start using it
fringe spear
makes sense
fringe spear
Its the type of shit that gets fixed the millisecond a few people start using it
Oh absolutely
But for now its funny
spice surge
Yepyep
spice surge
But idk practically everybody wants forge so the trinket situation is kinda cursed this tier
fringe spear
everyone wants antenna
fringe spear
At least some people dont want forge
golden loom
Just split LFR, Normal, Heroic and Mythic until you have trinkets 
fringe spear
Idk any spec that doesnt use antenna atm
distant fog
4 days till drop
fringe spear
But hey at least they nerfed cursed stone idol infinity
cant let that trinket exist
flint snow
!up
prisma monolithBOT
buoyant herald
But idk practically everybody wants forge so the trinket situation is kinda curs...
we have a system in guild where we do a sort of soft-reserve system for trinkets, and literally 12+ people have done araz and antenna
never been more cursed tbh
dry shoal
Hey this is gonna be my first sin season, I wanna get my rogue ready for next week and wondering how to properly sim
I read it up here and apparently aoe sims arent great, so we simply just sim ST also for m+?
jaunty notch
@balmy condor sry for ping, but is this weakaura the same as your video about fatebound rogue ? https://wago.io/a4RNXiGN8
or it is not released yet ?
balmy condor
my weakauras have not changed, that should be up to date
I'm gonna fix some colors and stuff
had some colorblindness concerns
small visual stuff
but the logic is all there
jaunty notch
okay thanks!
hoary remnant
But idk practically everybody wants forge so the trinket situation is kinda curs...
Just get prism
jolly stirrup
Heya, I am new to WoW and this is my first ever season start and its all a bit overwhelming :)
I just read the season start guide and it said to check here what to craft. Should I craft a Dagger or not?
Also thanks Whispyr, your Guide on wowhead made it very easy to get into Rogue Assassin 
rotund oak
irrelevant but since ive loaded betterblizardframes with your ui im getting weird errors
once i disable one of the two its fine
none of the two has issues individually,both of them together its like oil and water
😅
or maybe its the new drivers
prime quail
on which dungeons are we prolly required to play sub ?
rotund oak
are u pushing rank 1 keys?
pliant remnant
He's gonna trounce the silly lil rank 1 assa who does all his keys as assa for sure
forest mountain
Does assa go more for magic comps or physical for m+ - not sure if battle shout etc. does much for assas
spice surge
Battle shout is 5% more damage
rotund oak
then shaman buff
spice surge
Has nothing to do with physical or magical
If youre agility or strength, battleshout is 5%
forest mountain
ok - how do DH and monk buffs compare?
rotund oak
i think there is a spreadsheet for that somewhere
but both inferior to shout and shaman buff
warm vortex
I’d assume it’s just
More physical damage gets more use out of monk and vice versa for magic
forest mountain
i can look for that, but then that sounds like assas may prefer phys comps ovre magic?
rotund oak
...
forest mountain
is assas played over sub and outlaw for magic comps just because it can benefit more than them
rotund oak
bro jsut explained u its not
spice surge
Idk assa is good
forest mountain
you said battle shout is 5% damage and the best buff for assass which would be a physical comp
?
warm vortex
I mean I feel like comp stuff is only super important if your pushing really high right
forest mountain
yeah for sure but curiosity on the impact
warm vortex
Pairing 5 players that play good specs that know their class is just good
rotund oak
shout can be froma prot an shaman buff from resto sham
u can still play with a mage and lock
warm vortex
Or hell just good players in general
forest mountain
yes but in terms of accumulative buffs
rotund oak
that would make more sense if u are a pirate
warm vortex
Tbh I prefer wacky comps
If I see people doing high keys with like
Affli, SV, fury, guardian, holy
Like that’s more interesting
forest mountain
yeah i primarily play outlaw but my duo is going frost and wanted to run more magic comps so i wanted to see if theres even really much difference
spice surge
Warrior most important, then its like shaman > monk >= druid > dh
rotund oak
Tbh I prefer wacky comps
If I see people doing high keys with like
Affli, SV, ...
u are a bm hunter fam,comp is irrelevant 
forest mountain
I know obviously player skill and fun is more important yada yada
spice surge
But it doesnt really matter much
warm vortex
u are a bm hunter fam,comp is irrelevant <:xd:758596447510855690>
I mean my comp is just
Me + rats
And the entire continents worth of beasts I’m summoning this season
rotund oak
I mean my comp is just
Me + rats
keen spruce
hey who posted that arms warrior vs fury warrior gif a couple of days ago
where arms was the cat boy
and fury was the big dude lifting
I need it
for something
warm vortex
I don’t have that but I have
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Arms Warrior gameplay. The rotation is extremely nuanced, and without a PhD in Rage Management and deep knowledge of 18th-century fencing techniques, most players will just slap their keyboard and call it a day.
👊 Mortal Strike isn’t just a button – it’s a way of life. It’s the soul-crushing reminder to healers that they’re irrelevant 💔. Overpower? No, it’s OVERKILL 💀. And don’t even THINK about dodging – you can’t escape destiny.
Arms Warriors don’t need mobility tools. Why? Because we have something better: CHARGE 💪. Imagine playing a class that doesn’t charge into combat like a freight train with Bladestorm 🚂🌪️, turning EVERYTHING in its path into confetti 🎉. CC? Who needs it when your enemies are DEAD.
“Oh, but Arms Warriors are squishy!” – LOL. Die by the Sword? More like Die BY MY Sword ⚔️🔥. Healers sweating trying to save your life? Nah fam, we’re taking it into our own hands. Rallying Cry? It’s not just for others, it’s the war cry of NEVER BACKING DOWN 💯.
If you don’t main Arms, you’ll never understand what it means to walk into a raid and instill fear in the mobs AND your own raid leader 😎. Big Crit Energy is a lifestyle, and Arms Warriors live it every. Single. Day.
💀 ARMS WARRIOR LIFE: 💀
🗡️ BIG DAMAGE ✅
🛡️ TINY SURVIVABILITY ✅
😤 INFINITE PRIDE ✅
🌪️ SPINNING FOR DAYS ✅
analog idol
!FUU
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warm vortex
Was it in this channel?
warm vortex
Can’t you search for specific dates
keen spruce
there's a lot of yapping in here
i couldn't find it in heere
imma go check OT
it was in there
👍
marble hemlock
@stuck knoll
stuck knoll
Accurate
thorn thorn
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Arms Warrior gameplay....
Ven returns
stuck knoll
True warriors just press rampage
thorn thorn
Am i heretic for playing no multi bm
rotund oak
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icy tapir
Hi guys, fairly new with assa and I have a question to proper learn the spec, for a m+ perspective, should I go with hybrid talents or bleed build will be better coz 11.2 set?
Thanks in advance ❤️
spice surge
Bleed
icy tapir
Is there a specific reason? Or is it because of what I mentioned about the set bonus? hahah
jolly stirrup
Is there a specific reason? Or is it because of what I mentioned about the set b...
Also interested, because right now I also am doing a hybrid with Kingsbane iirc
obtuse ruin
Better damage profile
analog field
bleed is better and way easier, also mobs in such low dungeons don't give full value out of DM and KB. But in general it is just more dmg regardless tier set
warm vortex
Ven returns
As I’m raiding with 2 guilds for this first week I dusted off my rogue and got them a tiny bit of gear
warm vortex
Am i heretic for playing no multi bm
I’m p sure it’s non viable unless your in a premade with like
No st afaik
warm vortex
bleed is better and way easier, also mobs in such low dungeons don't give full v...
Yea p much this
Bleed is easier, for most people more enjoyable, and better unless you go into the high end of keys
heavy wren
we do not play kingsbane in m+ in s3?
warm vortex
Bleed doesn’t play it no
jolly stirrup
I see. Thanks
ocean barn
Why was energy regen feeling extremely awful in the one dungeon I did earlier
jolly stirrup
Lmao I wanted to ask the same, am I just spamming Mutilate too much? Is my goal to always stay above 150 energy to duplicate the bleed damage?
Or how do I manage my energy properly
prisma monolithBOT
Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. As a burst spec our damage is mainly loaded into Deathmark/Shiv and massive Envenoms through stacking multiple nature damage buffs such as Lingering Darkness, Shiv, Darkest Night, Amplifying Poison, and more. This comes with the natural downside of our damage suffering outside of these windows, in part due to the designed lack of energy slowing us down.
Because of this, there is only one minor (0.3%) min-max with energy, which is pooling 3-4 seconds into an upcoming Kingsbane. Ideally this would put you at around 50-60% energy before you enter your Kingsbane, which is more than enough energy alongside thistle tea. Outside of that, spam Envenom and just accept that you will run out of energy. There is nothing you can do to not run out of energy. Playing around Envenom uptime also is not relevant anymore, as Twist the knife allows for two stacks at a time, which reduces wasted uptime dramatically. Without twist the knife, wasting uptime is unavoidable.
warm vortex
dont think about 150 energy
Oh just go balls deep into 0?
My dumb butt was staying above 150 on bleed ST
ocean barn
Idk. Combo point generation felt terrible in outlaw so I switch to sin and the last 1/4 of the dungeon I was waiting 5 seconds between abilities
warm vortex
Then again I have looked at Assa stuff in a while
warm vortex
Idk. Combo point generation felt terrible in outlaw so I switch to sin and the l...
That’s assassination ST for you
golden loom
I mean staying at 150 energy is the lowest prio thing in m+ ST for bleed
sweet kite
if you rapture enough targets in your opener, you should be okay energywise
golden loom
so thinking about it is kinda whatever
warm vortex
if you rapture enough targets in your opener, you should be okay energywise
I’m assuming it’s ST
ocean barn
Mix of aoe and st yeah
warm vortex
so thinking about it is kinda whatever
Yea
Isn’t it better to focus on smth like not having to reapply Rup and having a DN at the same time? Or is that nothing major
golden loom
like if you dont have a single bleed to refresh and you dont have a darkest night to consume then you can stay at 150+ energy for a bit but in reallity you are just always spinning those plates
warm vortex
Oh yea aoe your not rupturing enough
warm vortex
What dungeon was this? Floodgate?
ocean barn
Priory
warm vortex
You’d get a message when you enven in that case
golden loom
if you have energy problems in aoe then something is very very wrong
sweet kite
you play Deathstalker correct? @ocean barn
ocean barn
Yeah
jolly stirrup
Deathstalker still the way to go? Or Fatebound also an option now
ocean barn
Up until that last cathedral room/last boss it felt like the easiest spec in the world with huge numbers lol
sweet kite
if things die fast enough you shouldn't have issues, maybe later in the priory you faced smaller packs and longer boss fight, thats why you were energy starved
ocean barn
Then it fell off a cliff
warm vortex
Up until that last cathedral room/last boss it felt like the easiest spec in the...
That’s assa, imo easiest rogue spec
warm vortex
if things die fast enough you shouldn't have issues, maybe later in the priory y...
Yea but for that to happen the pack would need to be like
Multiple mobs alive for like 20+ sec no?
jolly stirrup
Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of ...
I am glad to read this. I thought I was playing wrong.
ocean barn
Running out of energy in ST is intended? That's questionable design
jolly stirrup
for raid there will be fatebound fights
Any way I can tell which is better?
warm vortex
Any way I can tell which is better?
!guide
prisma monolithBOT
Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue
ocean barn
Especially since mana is now cosmetic for caster dps
golden loom
Running out of energy in ST is intended? That's questionable design
a spec with resources running out of them? no thats kinda the design goal
warm vortex
Look at the raid guide on wowhead
sweet kite
When a raptured mob dies it recovers some of the energy, thats why more mobs = more energy, because smaller ones die quick and get you to full
warm vortex
When a raptured mob dies it recovers some of the energy, thats why more mobs = m...
Yes but venomous wounds
Anyway gotta go poolside catch you all later
golden loom
Any way I can tell which is better?
massive aoe = deathstalker
single target and lowish aoe = fatebound
golden loom
When a raptured mob dies it recovers some of the energy, thats why more mobs = m...
well not only them dying
the main part is the regen
sweet kite
yes its the same talent
jolly stirrup
massive aoe = deathstalker
single target and lowish aoe = fatebound
Raid is still mostly single target no? So I want Fatebound for most bosses, correct?
Depending on boss ofc
balmy condor
fatebound on 4/8
is what I'm recommending
the pages aren't live yet, they were due last night
this basically
jolly stirrup
You are the best
balmy condor
with a big ????? on dimensius obviously cause no clue what the adds are gonna be like
jolly stirrup
maiden gust
MVP
jolly stirrup
Fr
balmy condor
araz could in theory be a fatebound fight as well
especially lower difficulties
like if you're slamming normal, fatebound probably cranks
if the adds aren't dying, no crank
you basically just have to ask yourself "are there a fuck ton of adds all the time during the fight"
or
"are there a fuck ton of adds during my cds"
and if the answer to either of those is "yes"
golden loom
if nexus-king platforms arent a big deal you probably slam fatebound there aswell
balmy condor
you do not play fatebound
golden loom
or how is the 2 target cleave diffy
balmy condor
if nexus-king platforms arent a big deal you probably slam fatebound there aswel...
it's possible but I fear deathstalker will just be simply better for the burn
fatebound technically wins in 2 target cleave
but it depends how long that is
like if the burn phase is a vexie intermission
lingering darkness will fuck
golden loom
yeah vexie was just deathstalker wet dream
jolly stirrup
Back to my earlier question. Do I craft myself a weapon? Or do I go for Raid loot?
balmy condor
Both
jolly stirrup
Ok
placid sparrow
I haven’t even glanced at fatebound once 😬
balmy condor
You have to craft a weapon for embellishment at some point anyway
jolly stirrup
When is the best time to craft? Next week?
jolly stirrup
You have to craft a weapon for embellishment at some point anyway
Sorry what's embellishment?
maiden gust
When is the best time to craft? Next week?
craft mythic dag next week
balmy condor
Sorry what's embellishment?
The bonus you put on crafted gear
golden loom
kinda funny we dont even have to kill 2nd boss for a myth track dagger this tier, just do hardmode tazevesh
balmy condor
Yeah just do it
jolly stirrup
The bonus you put on crafted gear
golden loom
exactly
jolly stirrup
Ok so craft dagg next week. Got it
placid sparrow
I mean you can craft now and just recraft next week
balmy condor
Ye
placid sparrow
Are you going to be getting guilded crest next week ?
sage spade
yeah capped at 90 i think next week
sage spade
aw
placid sparrow
Because he questioned what an embellishment is , which leads me to think certain things
And I think it’s the guy that said he’s new to wow
balmy condor
Idk I just jumped into the convo
placid sparrow
Same
jolly stirrup
Are you going to be getting guilded crest next week ?
Are these the ones I get from M+?
If so yes that's my goal
balmy condor
Gilded are from +8’s
bitter crow
or from 3 delves a week
placid sparrow
I thought it was 7s or did they change it AGAIN
balmy condor
Idfk man
None of the upgrade systems make any sense to me anymore
I just slam crests into stuff
jolly stirrup
And I think it’s the guy that said he’s new to wow
Correct, started like 3 weeks ago
jolly stirrup
Its all a bit overwhelming 
balmy condor
That might be the dumbest shit I’ve ever seen in my life
balmy condor
Its all a bit overwhelming <:kekdog:907207037757296710>
Bro I’m overwhelmed by this nonsense and I’m the one writing the guide
placid sparrow
Correct, started like 3 weeks ago
Yeah I’m not trying to hate so don’t take it that way , what I was getting at is if you’re going for crafted dagger then to do it with guilded only , don’t waste your time or crest crafting it with the tier below guilded to then turn around and recraft with guilded . Just all in straight to guilded
reef ibex
Hey Whispyr, have you updated your Plater profile?
balmy condor
Blizzard isn’t capable of making gear that’s complicated but heaven forbid their acquisition isn’t the most confusing shit imaginable
balmy condor
Hey Whispyr, have you updated your Plater profile?
Didn’t have time today cause guides took longer than I thought
Will be updated in time for m+
jolly stirrup
Yeah I’m not trying to hate so don’t take it that way , what I was getting at is...
Don't worry, no offense taken, I am here to learn
bitter crow
is wowhead still down?
balmy condor
It was down?
bitter crow
been trying to get it to work since like, Wednesday
distant fog
Slam crests pog
balmy condor
That’s on you
jolly stirrup
So I wait until next week to aquire gilded crests, and then craft the dagger
balmy condor
I’ve been done infinity wowhead work for the last week with no issues
distant fog
@jolly stirrup mmmmmmmmmmmm no
bitter crow
That’s on you
no, asked around, fucktons of people were getting errors
placid sparrow
You can craft the dagger at 691 right now won’t hurt anything
jolly stirrup
<@320671321837010944> mmmmmmmmmmmm no
distant plinth
So I wait until next week to aquire gilded crests, and then craft the dagger
Do m0 and spend all carved crest stuff, saved runed for huge trinkets and gilded for dagger is the play i guess
placid sparrow
If youre gonna kill 2 bosses week 1 wait till vault or dagger drop
You want a crafted dagger regardless
bitter crow
wait, I got a flow chart for that, too
distant fog
Yea but having that 723 is op
bitter crow
distant plinth
Yea
bitter crow
here you go
jolly stirrup
If youre gonna kill 2 bosses week 1 wait till vault or dagger drop
We will raid normal first, still?
jolly stirrup
I would wait till your mythic raid vault
Ok
bitter crow
I would wait till your mythic raid vault
if the guy is sat on some dogshit dagger without any embellishments, he can go make one now
recraft it when he has guildeds
cause realistically, he won't have the dps to M+ or delve or even HC raid
distant fog
Make one now sure
distant plinth
@jolly stirrup yoy guys raiding mythic first week? And do you think you would be able to kill 2?
distant fog
But becareful using gilded if youre mythic week 1-2
Trinkets and dagger drop is massive ya know
elfin flame
normal mist
Discussing crafting a dagger, this late in the expansion?
placid sparrow
He said he’s been playing for 3 weeks , it’s not wild to think that he won’t be killing 2 mythic bosses week 1
distant fog
Craft a one hand sword
spice surge
<:garf_sit:1334889429449314456>
placid sparrow
Could be
jolly stirrup
<@320671321837010944> yoy guys raiding mythic first week? And do you think you w...
We won't raid mythic first week
distant plinth
We won't raid mythic first week
Then yoy craft dagger 100%
distant plinth
the power spike is huge
placid sparrow
Could be daddy pika in the arena too for all we know
balmy condor
Jpc’s dk killed mythic gally an hour after starting to play the game, what do you mean
bitter crow
We won't raid mythic first week
legit, just craft a dagger man
let the trolls be
MH weapon >>>>> anything else for sin rogue
distant fog
Slam your gilded crest into wrist
balmy condor
You have to craft dagger regardless idk what the yap is
distant fog
Wrist is op
jolly stirrup
You have to craft dagger regardless idk what the yap is
Ok so I will craft it today after work
placid sparrow
I’ve only been in this server a few days and I already know not to take advice from tube
balmy condor
I’ve only been in this server a few days and I already know not to take advice f...
Outlaw rogues
distant fog
Its highest dps
balmy condor
You get used to it
normal mist
Question that I don't actually know, do we have a full spark this week? I'm sitting on an half, didn't do proper research about it
balmy condor
Yes
normal mist
Then I need to do weekly stuff
distant fog
Dust
bitter crow
Question that I don't actually know, do we have a full spark this week? I'm sitt...
we already have a full spark this week, yes
distant fog
If you didnt get it ye
bitter crow
go do weekly shit
normal mist
I'm at delve 11
rotund oak
<:xalcat:1283927554431910000>
distant fog
I like poison mmmm
placid sparrow
You get from pinnacle cache from weekly quest
distant fog
Licking the poison
balmy condor
<@167090536602140682> excuse me im a assa main now
Would be a shame if you just kept trolling and got muted then
pliant remnant
Please don't forget to take your meds
bitter crow
<@167090536602140682> excuse me im a assa main now
wasn't outlaw simming like, meta?
for raiding? 😂
distant fog
Outlaw raiding HAHAHAHAHAHA
balmy condor
wasn't outlaw simming like, meta?
Good one
normal mist
You get from pinnacle cache from weekly quest
I'll check it when I'm home, I find it odd then, I've been doing content
bitter crow
I mean, I didn't make the sims
distant fog
pliant remnant
Outlaw is always "simmin like, meta"
balmy condor
Good sims = meta yes yes
bitter crow
sec, let me find it
pliant remnant
balmy condor
Very logical and reasonable take
distant fog
have you seen an outlaws damage curve
balmy condor
Holy i didn't mean to start a war
Nah this has nothing to do with you
balmy condor
Acid has a dumbass take
bitter crow
so mean whispyr :<
winged quail
Bigger number gooder more meta
rotund oak
bro got L'd
distant fog
Ok but warlock/mage stacksd this raid ngl
distant fog
Afflock looks insane on the spread dot fight
balmy condor
doing 112 DPS
Very good sims yes
distant fog
Sims dont matter except for one boss this tier
Outlaw is the worst class on first boss
Tindral level bad
golden loom
comparing sims between specs is very big trap...
placid sparrow
I hopped off dragon this tier because I refuse to play SC , I only like the play style of FS abd everything was pointing to SC being better and now it’s not 🙃
distant fog
Does boss immune after sending you to narnia
Ngl though outlaw would get back to boss in like 2 seconds
2 hook shots and cloak it gg
placid sparrow
Spoderman spec
distant fog
Well for bis
rotund oak
sub tier
distant fog
You shadow step hook hook sprint
rotund oak
called it 9/8/2025 13:00
balmy condor
I didn't make the sims 😛
Officer you don’t understand! I didn’t make the spreadsheet of unbelievable nonsense and misinformation, I just spread the spreadsheet of unbelievable nonsense and misinformation, it’s so much better!
You’re like a fent dealer saying you don’t make the fent
maiden sierra
balmy condor
balmy condor
Sims arent a bad thing
They most definitely are in this context
maiden gust
do you have a spreadsheet Whispyr
pliant remnant
from the sims alone we already know two things
what you said
and that deathstalker sub is shit
balmy condor
do you have a spreadsheet Whispyr
Respectfully I’d rather kill myself than add fuel to the community bonfire of dooming over some spreadsheet
distant fog
Dooming is dumb anyway
Sims dont matter realistically for 99.99% of players
Most players will never out dps one button rotation
rotund oak
Dooming is dumb anyway
dont wanna ruin the narrative or colour blame but u are a pirate
thats like the epitomy of pirate psychology
distant fog
Play whats fun
balmy condor
I spent the entirety of this PTR cycle keeping the 11.2 APL private so people wouldn’t lose their shit over Fatebound and deathstalker sims a week after testing
distant fog
Dunno why
balmy condor
Dunno why what
distant fog
Its just internet jabber
balmy condor
It’s not though
distant fog
Boomie dooms perma and gets rewarded nothing bad happens from class dooming
pliant remnant
Everything ever is just jabber
balmy condor
It’s not about the doom
rotund oak
Dunno why
because he has to deal only with u and not another 100 ppl saying the same thing
balmy condor
It’s about people spreading misinfo and making decisions with data that is unusable
rotund oak
bro plans ahead
distant fog
What decision they making
golden loom
Like that's such a pointlessly reductionist perspective
its just a game that u spend infinite amounts of your free time on just chill bro relax
distant fog
If they themselves would like to play a class
distant fog
Lol . Rogue wont ever have over 1 spot anyway
Rare class + useless class
And melee
maiden gust
I hopped off dragon this tier because I refuse to play SC , I only like the play...
this is prime example of what early sims can do
people dont have brains
distant fog
In the echelons where minmaxxing classes matter they have already mathed it out themselves
balmy condor
I’d rather give no info than bad info
balmy condor
In the echelons where minmaxxing classes matter they have already mathed it out ...
They literally can’t though
Everyone is just making educated guesses
This cycle has been so dogshit unfinished from start to end
distant fog
I dunno
balmy condor
It’s legit just not possible to know things
golden loom
didnt guilds prep like 4 or 5 warriors last tier and then day before patch execute got nerfed by 15% and then u ended up playing 34 monks
balmy condor
Happens constantly yes
golden loom
noone predicted you would play that many monks, why couldnt it be rogue
distant fog
Wait thats every tier
distant fog
@golden loom thats not something you want
golden loom
<@267351433018474496> thats not something you want
why not
distant fog
Multi stacking classes is the last thing hou want for your raid
Because what happens when you have 5 rogues and 1 spot next tier
halcyon flint
Demise dont work in delve?
balmy condor
Aren’t you just making my point for me from earlier
distant fog
Being a “ bring only one spec maybe “ is an incredible gift ngl
balmy condor
Demise dont work in delve?
Yes, it’s fucked in open world content cause of ilvl/level scaling
distant fog
But at same time the reasoning behind it does feel bad
halcyon flint
omg
placid sparrow
this is prime example of what early sims can do
I’m sure some day scale will be better than flam though and when that happens I’d stop playing it anyways so might as well rip off the bandaid now 🤷🏻♂️
golden loom
Because what happens when you have 5 rogues and 1 spot next tier
then some of those rogues probably rerolled to it cause it was strong -> end up rerolling to the next op thing
or u just play more than 1 rogue
or u find a new place to game
distant fog
@golden loom if its a cozy level of skill for you it sucks
If you found that one guild
That just meshes
Damn that feeling . Never felt it
maiden gust
I’m sure some day scale will be better than flam though and when that happens I’...
its the last tier of the xpac and we dont know if theyll even keep hero talents in the same capacity in Midnight (I don't think we know?)
balmy condor
its the last tier of the xpac and we dont know if theyll even keep hero talents ...
We do know
golden loom
well I've only been in 1 retail guild (and 1 classic guild for that matter) so idk
balmy condor
Hero talents are staying until end of last Titan
golden loom
but we run double rogue
distant fog
They should since the entire point of the trilogy is to expand upon new things every expac
dark quiver
hey, can we like make the nameplate of the enemy with deathstalkers mark glow or something? it's easy to lose track of it on big pulls..
balmy condor
!wa
prisma monolithBOT
Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
balmy condor
Pull a mod out of the platers
dark quiver
thx dawg
distant fog
20 spot diff
grave warren
is assa the best spec this season?
distant fog
Probably
golden loom
its probably a top 40 spec yeah
distant fog
Assa or sub
grave warren
it actually deals pretty good damage now
distant fog
How many damage amp bosses we got
dense cedar
in Midnight they will add one new hero talent tree for each class, that all their specs can run, and it'll be an even worse balancing nightmare than now
distant fog
@dense cedar they dont balance hero trees they just remove one aspect of the game for each tree !
Or just remove one tree for every aspect
balmy condor
How many damage amp bosses we got
2
distant fog
Meh 2
jolly stirrup
Ok, I know i didn't cause this, I still feel the need to apologize for my incompetence and I am very grateful for all the help I can get here. So my to do is to craft dagger today. Next question, as this will be definitely a higher GS than any of my current dagger, I put it in Main Hand, correct?
balmy condor
Ok, I know i didn't cause this, I still feel the need to apologize for my incomp...
Yes
balmy condor
Okay. And then I just spam +7 for crests and follow the upgrade sheet?
Yep
jolly stirrup
Got it. Thank you very much
distant fog
Assa will kill ever boss just run last demise
plush isle
@balmy condor is Fatebound already better at those 4 bosses without the new tset ?
distant fog
And you will have higher loot rolll
balmy condor
<@167090536602140682> is Fatebound already better at those 4 bosses without the ...
Yes
distant fog
The last hit always gets the gear
balmy condor
Fb is between 5-7% better rn without tier
dusky oasis
can y'all give me sims settings so I can sim my char?
balmy condor
can y'all give me sims settings so I can sim my char?
What are we trying to sim
distant fog
Gotta pray to the lord above i get 4 piece next week
@dusky oasis 5 dummies sim or 1 dummies sim
dusky oasis
What are we trying to sim
single target and also multitarget for m+ packs
balmy condor
<@186861308082126849> 5 dummies sim or 1 dummies sim
Stop
distant fog
Damn
balmy condor
single target and also multitarget for m+ packs
Patchwerk 1 target 5 min for Single target, dungeonslice for m+
dusky oasis
quick sim is good or should I do something else?
distant fog
What are you tryinf to sim for …
balmy condor
Quick sim will just give you a breakdown
distant fog
Are you switching gear or what
balmy condor
Depends what you’re trying to compare
dusky oasis
What are you tryinf to sim for …
just to see what my optimal dps should look like with my gear
distant fog
Optimal sure go patch
balmy condor
Okay well that’s not really what sims are for
dense cedar
distant fog
But you wont hit that number in raid
Especially pug
But you can optimize gear through patchwerk
rotund oak
Okay well that’s not really what sims are for
im trying to explain why all this time and u just write and win 
im out
too old for this
buoyant herald
sims are for comparing things within your own character, not comparing your character to any external thing
like another spec or an external benchmark
balmy condor
Sims don’t tell you how much damage you should be doing, they tell you the differences between things, like comparing a talent build or gear against an idealized fight
But they are inherently simulations, synthetic situations
dusky oasis
well I do want to see the diff between sin and sub so
balmy condor
Designed to make the environment sterile and repeatable
copper anvil
@balmy condor do you think assa is the go to spec? and we just swap around fb and ds, depends on fight?
distant fog
@dusky oasis the differences will be based on kill time, uptime, ext
Damage amp phase
The contextual approach is important in which is optimal not purely sims
balmy condor
<@167090536602140682> do you think assa is the go to spec? and we just swap arou...
Sin and sub both good, assa will swap to fatebound in some fights yes
dense cedar
i need that 4 set already
dense cedar
i wanna play around with the cd change
distant fog
But not in my run
balmy condor
Above all, the difference in your skill will matter way more than any sim you run
If you’re playing sin at 90% and sub at 80%
Just don’t play sub
dense cedar
<@77690417230917632> buy it
?
distant fog
Wow wow
dusky oasis
I decided this season to swap from sub to assa bcs I hated not getting invited into even +2 keys bcs I'm "trolling"
royal lantern
its very very very VERY unlikely that you struggle to kill a boss because of the spec/class you play, when 99% of your wipes are based on people fucking up fight mechanics
distant fog
Low keys sub is worthless ngl
rotund oak
how do u know that
strange onyx
!cb
prisma monolithBOT
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.
#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane
Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket
buoyant herald
low key sub is worthless ngl
dusky oasis
I don't like playing OL
dense cedar
do I go human cause im over maghar orc
go one of the elves ofc
honourable metion to goblin
maiden gust
go one of the elves ofc
i dont have a legolas fantasy
dusky oasis
Was a sub main since legion lol, finally gave up this season
rotund oak
what u guys think
biggest human fan in this chat,would be wrong to push u do it
but yes
distant fog
Why sub looks insanelt strong
Certain m+ dungeons they will destroy
But assa will prio over them p sure
Deathstalker kinda op
dense cedar
i dont have a legolas fantasy
tsk tsk
royal lantern
do I go human cause im over maghar orc
🦊
the only true answer
flips+the best /sleep animation
dusky oasis
what u guys think
been an UD rogue since I can remember
dense cedar
vulpera also good rogue choice
dusky oasis
hello from my ud rog
distant fog
Female wood elf is best so
dense cedar
hello from my ud rog
where r ur bones
royal lantern
UD rogue/female Belf Rogue is the male human paladin of Rogue
aka 35y old boomer
dense cedar
bad version smh
jolly stirrup
I am one of the few people that use Panda as rogue, idk, he looked cute
maiden gust
UD rogue/female Belf Rogue is the male human paladin of Rogue
aka 35y old boome...
thats me
jolly stirrup
maiden gust
I am one of the few people that use Panda as rogue, idk, he looked cute
disgusting
distant fog
You gonna belly flop them for extra dmg
rotund oak
I am one of the few people that use Panda as rogue, idk, he looked cute
ok thats even worse than vulpera
jolly stirrup
dusky oasis
I am leveling a void elf rog aswell xd
royal lantern
I am one of the few people that use Panda as rogue, idk, he looked cute
0 fall dmg 
dusky oasis
I have like 4 rogues already xd
jolly stirrup
0 fall dmg <:2ez:587982296066424843>
Basically
rotund oak
I have like 4 rogues already xd
how cute 
royal lantern
ok thats even worse than vulpera
my brother in christ
you play HUMAN and PvP
you cant slander ANYONE in this world you animal
dusky oasis
wait lemme count properly xd
dense cedar
they should add catlike reflexes to the class tree
pliant remnant
I have like 4 rogues already xd
my condolences
dusky oasis
my brother in christ
you play HUMAN and PvP
you cant slander ANYONE in this wo...
pvp is goated, but human? ew
rotund oak
my brother in christ
you play HUMAN and PvP
you cant slander ANYONE in this wo...
bold of u to assume i was human last tiers(i was orc,even my mage wasnt alliance)
patent estuary
Should you use crimson tempest in single target rotation if you have the bleed build(m+) or not? Feel like icy-veins and wowhead is tackling this differently.
royal lantern
Should you use crimson tempest in single target rotation if you have the bleed b...
yes
if you play bleed build, you maintain CT on singletarget
dusky oasis
lmao (abomination is main)
patent estuary
if you play bleed build, you maintain CT on singletarget
thanks for quick answer
rotund oak
lmao (abomination is main)
only 1 is max lvl though
dusky oasis
only 1 is max lvl though
ye, I hate lvling xd
rotund oak
ye, I hate lvling xd
dense cedar
should've leveled them last month
distant fog
Pay someone to level for you bro
rotund oak
- looms u cookin
distant fog
Just afk as they farm mobs for you
Classic
Sell keys make money spend money to level or buy gear repeat
jolly stirrup
Any recommendations for a ranged class?
distant fog
Bm hunter
dense cedar
Any recommendations for a ranged class?
outlaw
dusky oasis
Any recommendations for a ranged class?
If u want 0 effort high dps play hunter
distant fog
jolly stirrup
If i wanna dip into that territory
rotund oak
Any recommendations for a ranged class?
pve or pvp
jolly stirrup
Pve
jolly stirrup
Never wanna pvp
jolly stirrup
ranged is scary tho
Elaborate
distant fog
Ranged is not scary
dusky oasis
as I said 0 effort high dps is hunter, or if you like to play the piano play demo lock
jolly stirrup
a lot more negative space in the environment
Negative space meaning?
dense cedar
i just like with melee how you're either on the boss hitting them or just not
i don't wanna think beyond that
distant fog
rotund oak
Pve
if u wanna die to random aoe stuff without a button to press and do mechanics in raids hunter,if u wanna be insanely OP to everything mage,If u wanna be a necessity warlock(im not talking about dragon coz ild murder every dragon there is in wow,then spawncamp them until they uninstall)
dusky oasis
Boomie is the best spec in game
also the worst spec current season lol baiter
distant fog
Mustve not seen the 80% buff they just got
rotund oak
ild add a line the about being completely detached from reality and failing in everything,then druid but ive deliberately forgot to mention
dense cedar
is that "?" for me?
rotund oak
druid is only good for herb/mining
dense cedar
boomie isn't fun really
dusky oasis
are there new patch notes from today?
rotund oak
btch@ss class
dusky oasis
Mustve not seen the 80% buff they just got
send buffs ples
dense cedar
wtf is liquid magma totem
rotund oak
its magma coming from the outer core
enriched with water in MORBs(mid-ocean ridge basalts)
dusky oasis
those cement buffs holyyyyy
icy tapir
Do someone have a Garrote macro for mousovering but if not mouseovering cast on the main target? this is not woirking for me:
"#showtooltip
/cast [@mouseover,exists,nodead][] Garrote"
dusky oasis
the only macro I have for sin is the shiv+tea macro
icy tapir
I'm losing my main target while tabing to apply garrotes hahah
jolly stirrup
if u wanna die to random aoe stuff without a button to press and do mechanics in...
I see
icy tapir
And I didn't wanted to keep tabing until i found the correct one
dusky oasis
I'm losing my main target while tabing to apply garrotes hahah
why do you spam tab? get main target, push your opener like crazy and gg
or that's what i do
or just, click the main target
royal lantern
And I didn't wanted to keep tabing until i found the correct one
just stay on your main target, makes no real difference
IC has smart targeting
rotund oak
I see
i think out of the 3 hunter is prolly the safest go,then warlock,if u like a challenge playing the most OP class in the game mage pretty much
icy tapir
Isn't garrote spreading a thing in +3 targets?
rotund oak
if u are spec'd into indiscriminate carnage ye
frosty comet
Yeah IC spec gets garrote and rupture hit 3 targets per and with bone spike its just more damage everwyhere
agile geode
!fuu
prisma monolithBOT
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
normal mist
Yeah IC spec gets garrote and rupture hit 3 targets per and with bone spike its ...
for the more casual its 3-2-2 spreads
frosty comet
for the more casual its 3-2-2 spreads
Yeah
flint comet
how many garrotes and ruptures do you go for usually? go for the 5 for the agility buff or go for more?
frosty comet
I try to get atleast most or atleast 80% of the trash pack
frosty comet
how many garrotes and ruptures do you go for usually? go for the 5 for the agili...
Normally its not terribly difficult to get the Ruptures for the 20% Agility but if you're doing keys ideally you want to try and get as much hit as you can with as many bleeds/dots as you can for the damage
flint comet
ok ty!
frosty comet
Np!
frosty comet
ok ty!
I will say, Inbetween CT uptime do try to envenom as much as you can because of our current M+ setup Caustic is still a good chunk of our dps output
cerulean karma
Any reason my sims gives me 2 on use trinkets for ST? is it so I have a trinket for kingsbane?
frosty comet
Any reason my sims gives me 2 on use trinkets for ST? is it so I have a trinket ...
No. Sim is being dumb there you shouldn’t be using 2 on use basically ever
cerulean karma
Ok thanks
frosty comet
If you have a few good trinkets that are on use and don’t have any passives then you can use both just replace the one as fast as you can
cerulean karma
Because this seems to be an insane trinket for assa
plush isle
With the PTR they pushed yesterday was the Kingsbane Stack Bug for Fatebound fixed ?
tired finch
oi who would you guys say has the best assa plater profile ? looking for a new one
rare jackal
i like cev plater profile
frosty comet
Because this seems to be an insane trinket for assa
Its honestly not great and well.. its only good every 2 minutes and only for 20 seconds. Its just kina gabage
cerulean karma
Its honestly not great and well.. its only good every 2 minutes and only for 20 ...
It outsims my 688 lily of eternal wave
tired finch
@rare jackal aight imma try it out ty.
golden loom
Isnt that trinket bugged or something with not sharing CD with other on use?
acoustic roost
It outsims my 688 lily of eternal wave
On a 4pc fatebound?
golden loom
so you are able to use double on use
cerulean karma
On a 4pc fatebound?
s2 4pc ye
frosty comet
Not that ik of
acoustic roost
Link sim
frosty comet
so you are able to use double on use
I could be wrong but I don’t think so
golden loom
people were talking about it here earlier
golden loom
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/x1bTEvQdKF9ZPiFhTyzbkt
yeah it uses both trinkets at the same time
so no wonder its good
cerulean karma
yeah it uses both trinkets at the same time
Yeah but don't check that, check the damage on where they use edict.
golden loom
yeah I mean the fetter trinket is better than lily at that ilvl
and with 2 min fatebound
acoustic roost
You could also be lacking crit as well.
cerulean karma
yeah I mean the fetter trinket is better than lily at that ilvl
cerulean karma
You could also be lacking crit as well.
Yeah I have 2 non-crit rings
golden loom
what does that have to with anything?
golden loom
yeah but thats not the reason its simming higher
its just a better trinket than lily
balanced around track
coral whale
Hello! i was wondering as assa in M+ u wanna garotte + rupture every mobs in a pack? or just put 5 rupture for the buff and 1 or 2 garotte? ty!
golden loom
and lily is also a 90 sec trinket, both sims you have done is on a 2 min class
cause fatebound turns into a 90 sec spec when you get 4 piece of new tier
royal lantern
Hello! i was wondering as assa in M+ u wanna garotte + rupture every mobs in a p...
5 rupture minimum for energy+scent of blood
after that its more on the "depeends on the situation" kind of deal
if you play bleed build, you wanna spread more bleeds, but you dont wanna put bleeds on enemys that die in 5 seconds anyway
golden loom
people have been talking about it but it being from a rare + the ilvl of it makes it kinda weird and also the thing that makes it not share CD with other on-use trinkets will get fixed the instant it becomes wide known
royal lantern
and garrote outside of stealth cant be spread much anyway cus it has a CD + does low dmg
coral whale
5 rupture minimum for energy+scent of blood
after that its more on the "depeend...
ok now u talk about it in M0 atm it's better to play hybrid or bleed?
cerulean karma
people have been talking about it but it being from a rare + the ilvl of it make...
That's insane you can use both.
golden loom
I mean yeah its a bug
tender ember
how do you guys run delves? i am dying to elite mobs that summon beasts 🙁
golden loom
how do you guys run delves? i am dying to elite mobs that summon beasts 🙁
healer brann?
cerulean karma
Blind/stun ?
zenith elm
We are more fragile then most classes for delves yes
tender ember
Blind/stun ?
ahhh i forgor
golden loom
yeah especially if you are on the lower ilvl side you kinda have to play it smart
can also skip a lot with stealth
tender ember
yeah i dont have smart in my skill set. just new to rogue. might as well level some tank
thank you everyone
cerulean karma
yeah i dont have smart in my skill set. just new to rogue. might as well level s...
Try warrior
😉
midnight scroll
noo stick with rogue, you'll continuously be filled with unbearable happiness and joy for the rest of your life
half igloo
!sheet
prisma monolithBOT
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
orchid pewter
how do you guys run delves? i am dying to elite mobs that summon beasts 🙁
tank brann, and play law or sub with perma tricks
ocean shell
I'm doing some dummy testing, bu t sometimes my deathstalker's mark just doesn't apply when I attack from stealth. If something like that happens, is the only way to fix it to vanish and try to reapply mark?
On a related note, I'm macroing thistle tea to shiv, but trying to make it so that multiple button presses won't use multiple charges of tea. Is this the right way to do it?
#showtooltip Shiv
/castsequence reset=2 Thistle tea,null
/cqs
/cast [@mouseover, harm, exists] [] Shiv
acoustic roost
!shiv
prisma monolithBOT
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.
#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane
Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket
hard fractal
Question from a Rogue returner:
How do i play my finisher around Forced Induction?
Darkest Night: 7+3 CP
Normal Finisher: 5+3CP
or
Darkest Night: 7+3 CP
Normal Finisher: 2+3CP
or
Darkest Night: 4+3 CP
Normal Finisher: 2+3CP
orchid pewter
dont thing about it just finish like you would normally do
5+ and 7 for dn
forced induction is just extra dam
zenith elm
Question from a Rogue returner:
How do i play my finisher around Forced Inductio...
First one, thats all
hard fractal
Hm k, was wondring if 2nd is worth for cycling through DN. And i saw Raidbots doesnt sim Shiv for DN, is this correct and why is he not doing it?
acoustic roost
you only do a "dry" shiv after the deathmark burst when lingering darkness is up
prime quail
@rotund oak no i just go for title u hard that assa might be very bad in some keys and that you kinda forced to go sub for those that's why i Askese
If it's 100k difference in overall I mean who cares but if it's 10-15% more it's kinda troll not to go sub
Sure the 
why you ask if you don't go rank 1 Argument is stupid cause even in 17-19keys it's important not to Slack and do less dmg than you should
thick juniper
!up
prisma monolithBOT
prime quail
Just because you are too stubborn to switch to other specc cause oh i love assa so much
acoustic roost
you're not in game breh 🙂
acoustic roost
!wa
prisma monolithBOT
Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
median scroll
thank you
lean topaz
does +5 combo points in the guide mean 5 or higher or just higher than 5
scarlet orbit
5 or higher
hard fractal
you only do a "dry" shiv after the deathmark burst when lingering darkness is up
So why makes this 2nd Shiv in opener sense after DN?
lean topaz
what is the reason not to go to 7? is it due the hero talent? for both fb and deathstalker
acoustic roost
wasted combo points. if you mutilate at 5 you have the chance to waste 2 cps due to seal fate
zenith elm
So why makes this 2nd Shiv in opener sense after DN?
You get the third one for dry shiv
And you shiv once on kingsbane
hard fractal
i think the 3rd dry is even missed, isnt it?
zenith elm
Nope thats the third shyv, with DN and the end of DM
cosmic harness
Does anyone have a WA that shows target count and ruptures active?
zenith elm
!wa
prisma monolithBOT
Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
zenith elm
In luxthos group you can find that
cosmic harness
thanks bro
hard fractal
Nope thats the third shyv, with DN and the end of DM
Whats DM and isnt the bottom Envenom the DN one so shiv dmg missed be few ms?
spice surge
Deathmark (the cooldown)
half igloo
!sheet
prisma monolithBOT
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
zenith elm
Whats DM and isnt the bottom Envenom the DN one so shiv dmg missed be few ms?
Yeah idk why he decided to not send it, its a dps loss
acoustic roost
also
hard fractal
Yea.. seems Like it
vapid terrace
Read and watch whispyrs guides. Wowhead and YouTube. He puts so much time into them and has tons of info
acoustic roost
Yea.. seems Like it
quick sim on mine shows the dry shiv. So yeah, the big yellow warning on the top is there for a reason XD
spice surge
If the mark doesnt line up well you skip it
Most of the time it should
But sometimes it doesnt
Yeah the big yellow disclaimer is there for a reason
prime quail
Is there a good video guide on assa for 11.2? M+
dapper halo
is there a sim to determine, depending on your stats, on what gem i should put on my lege cloak
or is it always : mastery, dont think about it any fuhrther
grim jay
is there a sim to determine, depending on your stats, on what gem i should put o...
just put in mastery and forget about it imo
main bridge
is there a sim to determine, depending on your stats, on what gem i should put o...
yeah you can sim the threads
they're on the page just like anything else
dapper halo
oh, theres sim madness answer to it
jaunty sky
full vers
main bridge
dapper halo
also, totally random
do you know what an "expectant" is
for reasons, you expect a toothpaste to be kinda foamy
bydefault, it isnt, but a thing is added to it so it foams
pliant remnant
grim jay
might be a cultural thing, but I dont expect it to be foamy
dapper halo
sodium lauryl sulfate or sls is what does the foaming part