assassination

[waxen oyster]

you'd spread ruptures before going into deathmark

[fading kiln]

@royal lantern I multi-dot during IC and only ST whole time except when I use Vanish/Smeld to gain buff

[runic hinge]

you are keeping 5 ruptures up pretty much no matter what

[thorn thorn]

Effectively in AOE you get infinite energy since often in 4+ targets you will be generating more energy from your bleeds than you can spend

[fading kiln]

FoK > Envenom

[royal lantern]

well, thats kinda bad lol

[random jungle]

do poison bomb has target cap guys?

[runic hinge]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[royal lantern]

IC helps you speeding up

[waxen oyster]

play bleed spec

[royal lantern]

but how can you look at your talents and think "i ignore dotting outside of IC"

[waxen oyster]

"why do i have to bleed things"

[fading kiln]

What you do is Spread Rupture (IC or Not), Garrote Primary, and follow Envenom/Deathmark Rotation? That what you say you do right

[royal lantern]

we literally have talents like that

[fading kiln]

So worth it to lose out on Nightfallen dmg

7 CP Envenoms

[thorn thorn]

This has to be bait

[fading kiln]

No I am being serious

[royal lantern]

you had like 4 people explain you now that you always want 5 ruptures active in aoe

[runic hinge]

you should read the guides i link

[fading kiln]

I kept asking earlier, so need to reverse ask

[humble verge]

NAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

im on dorkis stream

[fading kiln]

I read both guides + dalaran discord guide

[humble verge]

and theres a weakaura

[dark quiver]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[royal lantern]

tf is dalaran discord guide

[humble verge]

to call out people using the 1 button rotation

😭

[rain mortar]

Yeah but to act like it’s difficult to keep up ruptures on that many targets when you can FoK to full CP is silly. Most of them time IC will get you rolling. Then you have vanishes, meld if NE, etc. it’s not really hard to keep up ruptures

[fading kiln]

@royal lantern Youtuber

[runic hinge]

but its covered in the guide

[waxen oyster]

dalaran lmao

[fading kiln]

"M+ Question for Sin Rogue - Outside of Indiscriminate Carnage do we need to multi-dot Garrote or Rupture at all? Or do we just play CP on Envenom on Death Target?"

"Anyone know for spreading bleeds?"

[random jungle]

dalaran used to be relevant back in 2016/17 then he used to do 5v5 arena videos, besides that he is pretty sleeper lol

[fading kiln]

That what I asked originally but we were talking about Booba Streamers

[thorn thorn]

You keep dots spread in aoe for energy gain and for scent. When DS mark drops using your envenom to reapply it is top priority since if it drops then you have legit no hero talent until you stealth or vanish to reapply it. Upkeep spatter and bleeds on main targets and a few cleave targets, when thats done you just fok and envenom main

This is ignoring shiv uses

[fading kiln]

So I had to reverse psychology to get my answer

[humble verge]

https://wago.io/CTb3OGAbm

oh nonononon

[runic hinge]

are you sure you read the guide

[fading kiln]

During IC is it worth it to do more than 5?

[thorn thorn]

You can do more than 5 but 5 is is best case scenario

[waxen oyster]

Why do people claim to read the guides

[main bridge]

reading is the real final boss

[waxen oyster]

then ask something right in the guide

[runic hinge]

LIKE ITS RIGHT THERE

[fading kiln]

Yes I read it at least 10 times I promised

[runic hinge]

SPELLED OUT

why are you asking

[fading kiln]

I see it now 🙂

[thorn thorn]

Scent reaches its max value at 5 targets and at 5 targets you get basically infinite energy

[fading kiln]

Reading is not very easy for a lot of people

Sometimes asking direct question gets what they need

Thanks for clearing it up 🙂 Tomorrow I work on Shiv Training

[random jungle]

so then just spam fok and envenom with full cp?

[waxen oyster]

Honestly IC is a terrible talent

it puts people who shouldnt be playing a dot spec

on one

[thorn thorn]

To my knowledge yes

But call me a dumbass if im wrong by all means

[random jungle]

i did that when i used to play assa tbh

[thorn thorn]

I take feedback

[random jungle]

to have a chance to proc poison bomb

[thorn thorn]

I love poison bomb

[marsh fjord]

we getting close to ky'veza kill boys

[runic hinge]

i mean in todays wow, if you gotta spend 14 gloabals to get your damage running it's never gonna be a viable spec

[marsh fjord]

almost

[fading kiln]

Tbh I prefer S2 with Kingsbane and stuff

[waxen oyster]

?

we didnt play kb in s2 tww

[royal lantern]

its kinda funny how stuck uup some people here get over me saying that assa is the probably hardest rogue spec in m+ lol

[runic hinge]

Maybe I need to close this channel for the night

[thorn thorn]

I prefer the builds that take KB as a whole cuz I like KB

Not cuz its good

[random jungle]

its hard just because things die faster, not cuz the spec is harder by itself

[royal lantern]

what

if stuff dies fast its more easy

[fading kiln]

Thanks

[royal lantern]

cus you dont need to bother managin stuff

[random jungle]

yea but if the dot stays more on the target, equals more damage

right?

[thorn thorn]

Sin is the dot spec the least bothered by things dieing too fast because of SD

Aff suffers from it majorly if they cant cast enough raptures before things die and shadow actually does zero aoe if their aoe targets die first

[spice surge]

Ye remove ic, we have demise instead

[thorn thorn]

Feral is kinda

Eh?

[royal lantern]

remove demise, we have systemic failure

[rain mortar]

I’m not trying to be stuck up lol. It’s easy. Assa is super straight forward.

[thorn thorn]

I havent seen feral struggle with it the way aff does

[haughty flicker]

because feral isnt a dot spec its a bite spec

[thorn thorn]

[fading kiln]

I will ask more later! Thank you friends!

[rain mortar]

Feral snapshot life

[random jungle]

why is assa s tier right now? i didnt look at the whole patch notes tbh

[royal lantern]

wjat snapshoting

its feral

you spamm bite

[spice surge]

Numbers big

[random jungle]

feral is basically assa but in cat form lol

[royal lantern]

the snapshoting part is such a small thing now that isnt even a big focus

[rain mortar]

That’s like saying rupture isn’t a big deal 3 is just as good as 5.

[tiny pollen]

Hi everyone, which is the best talents for M+ ?

[random jungle]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[thorn thorn]

Throwback to when ravage was called Massive Attack on the TWW ptr

RIP to a real one

[tiny pollen]

There are many, I don't know which one to choose.

[random jungle]

i always choose wowhead

for starter things

but since its like day 2 or 3 of the patch, its good to look anywhere

[haughty flicker]

m a s s i v e a t t a c k

[thorn thorn]

m a s s i v e a t t a c k

[tough gorge]

Assa is s tier because any group right now with an assa rogue, they are easily topping. Obviously no tier and what not.

[royal lantern]

you mean M A S S I V E A T T A C K

[thorn thorn]

ngl im kinda sad they changed it from massive attack

Such a good meme

[tiny pollen]

I copied one that is the top 1 of raider io and it's different, it confuses me and I don't know which one to take.

[random jungle]

any ideas on how to get a dagger asap? my rogue has only 1 -.-

[tough gorge]

What the heck

[spice surge]

Follow the guide

[random jungle]

season didnt even started to have rio

[tiny pollen]

oh

[random jungle]

rio still has s2 talents

[tiny pollen]

perfect ty

[random jungle]

season basically starts next week

[normal mist]

Copying r1 builds isnt a good idea overall

theres a reason they play those builds and you have no idea why

[willow wing]

I just used the hallowfall event token to buy one

[tiny pollen]

i will copy from wowhead then

[random jungle]

oh yea i forgot

they updated it to s3 riight?

[willow wing]

Yeah I think it’s vet

Good enough if you have nothing else

[random jungle]

i think i seen a tiktok that u can buy 668 weeap

yea, i need a dagger asap since i wanna do content in assa spec

[willow wing]

Or do horrific vision I think as well

[random jungle]

and not outlaw wanymore

[random jungle]

i hated that when i was playing my pala, i will hate it now

[balmy condor]

for assa rogue, I write the wowhead/method guides and I share info with the guy who writes the icyveins guides, they should all in theory have the same information

[random jungle]

i heard u need 5 mask

[willow wing]

Yeah 5 mask

[rain mortar]

5 mask for sure

[random jungle]

no way i can do solo 5 masks with rogue

i have like 500 ilv xd

[tiny pollen]

copied

[willow wing]

Hallowfall is easy option

[humble verge]

just buy 1 4Head

[random jungle]

yeah ill do hallowfall, ty

[runic hinge]

throw back to bite force

[waxen oyster]

5 mask shit just falls over

[royal lantern]

yeha, but not with 500 ilvl

[waxen oyster]

i mean

collect weathered crests from renown npcs

create 675 blue gear

[marsh fjord]

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/class-tuning-incoming-–-august-12/2145523

tuning

no rogue nerfs

hmmm

[fallow canopy]

Pretty much what was expected ngl

Enha and boomkin needed jesus

[random jungle]

Still no buffs to paladin in st

Damn blizz

[fallow canopy]

Could've done without the boomkin buffs tho

[waxen oyster]

what pally is fine

[white lance]

I blame tettles

[brave comet]

pally is absolutely fine

[main bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/dodge-the-matrix-swerve-lunge-dive-gif-22197111

[brave comet]

it should go back to the levels of ST in S2

[main bridge]

sin dodging nerfs

[brave comet]

idk i think sin is underpowered

[placid adder]

mid tier needs nerfs?

[main bridge]

i didn't say anything like that

[thorn thorn]

Why are we buffing boomies

Let them do tank dam for a season

Fuck em

[maiden sierra]

Real

[humble verge]

wait

they buffed boomies again

[graceful halo]

has anyone else had problems with weakauras loading properly since the patch? mine wont load if i set a class/spec requirement

[maiden sierra]

Play the game raw like a real man

None of that chinese spyware

[maiden sierra]

I will ❤️

[random jungle]

try to update them / get them through wago app

[floral thorn]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[thorn thorn]

Can you drop the brightness on these by like half

[haughty flicker]

no

[balmy condor]

jarvis increase brightness by 50%

[thorn thorn]

Please spare me

My eyes are bad

[balmy condor]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-funny-cat-cat-funny-cat-flashbang-flashbang-gif-8479999063609699416

[tropic plover]

deathstalker tier set seems more fun than our last 2 tier sets but i still yearn for something actually fun and interesting to shake things up a bit

[fallow canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-flashbang-gif-25002731

[haughty flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/wizard-cat-cat-fat-cat-witch-cat-funny-gif-17184002081031284995

[balmy condor]

-0.1mm to ocean level

[haughty flicker]

its ok we're all going to kill each other long before that does

[balmy condor]

true actually

I'm starting with you

[haughty flicker]

yes please

[haughty flicker]

[thorn thorn]

Can we have this emoji Whispyr

[balmy condor]

no

[thorn thorn]

[brave comet]

i hate this so much

[humble verge]

just dont die???

hello

[haughty flicker]

ive never died a single time ever

[thorn thorn]

Keep health above 0%

[haughty flicker]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[marsh fjord]

middle into ky'veza prog and server goes into maintenance man

[haughty flicker]

kb still not fixed on ptr btw

[marsh fjord]

[thorn thorn]

[raw marlin]

rogue not being touched

in patch notes

muahahahahah

https://tenor.com/view/sukuna-villain-villain-arc-arc-itadori-gif-12292609261583386256

[brave comet]

cause rogue is underperforming

[distant fog]

The hooktail deaths will be disgustingly bad

[thorn thorn]

@humble verge

[dim meteor]

assassin or sub better for this season rn?

[marsh fjord]

Both very close.

[raw marlin]

hehe yep

[distant fog]

Assa rogue has way better pugability i feel

Outlaw is probably best pug

[raw marlin]

the best pug is sin

cause its the one im playing

[jade abyss]

Gigachad

[thorn thorn]

Sin is the best spec because Whispyr is our expert and he is based

[balmy condor]

IF NOT IM YNW MELLY 📣

that's it, I'm bumpin kendrick front to back for the next 6 hours

[jade abyss]

Whispyr has his own religion

[balmy condor]

you're so right

[thorn thorn]

Do we hate comcast as a religion

[balmy condor]

idk why you guys glaze me I'm so fucking autistic

[thorn thorn]

Im autistic as fuck

Autists gather together

[balmy condor]

my raads score go 🅱️razy

[thorn thorn]

🫵 are just like me

We are friends now

[marsh fjord]

atleast you can do numbers

[jade abyss]

Need people for subscribe for my guild autistic whispyr fanclub

[balmy condor]

wait but you're numbers

[marsh fjord]

Yes you do me

[balmy condor]

pause

[marsh fjord]

Do you know what happend to me

[thorn thorn]

What did you score on the tism test

More than 100?

Over 200???

[marsh fjord]

8% ky'veza earlier like a few hour ago. and i vanished for double flip and she dissapeared

i can kill myself

[balmy condor]

113 and then I did it a while later with my therapist cause I forgor and scored 144, so whichever of those you prefer I guess

[thorn thorn]

I scored 166

[balmy condor]

big

you're so large

[thorn thorn]

[balmy condor]

I made my gf do it and she scored like a 25

[jade abyss]

Can someone edit the gigachad meme with a whispyrhead instead D: ?

[balmy condor]

so now she always sends me those fucking tiktok videos with the sound that's like "I like my autistic mans"

[thorn thorn]

A friend of mine scored 171, and her husband scored 41

[balmy condor]

[balmy condor]

yeah that's the combo man

one goofy ahh 100plusser and a pisslow normie

goated combo

[balmy condor]

"oh boy I can't wait to stream the new wow patch"
whispyr where is stream
"WELL NOW I DONT WANNA ANYMORE"

why am I like this

[thorn thorn]

And to anybody reading this if any of these apply to you as a human

I have news for you

[runic hinge]

i think i was 121 but i kinda hated that test

[thorn thorn]

Welcome to the spectrum

[balmy condor]

yeah so while I was retaking the test I was bitching about how stupid the test was

and afterwards my therapist was like

"so you were complaining a lot about the test and the questions"

"and uh.. that's also an indicator"

apparently normal people don't do that I guess

[runic hinge]

lmfaooo

[thorn thorn]

Correct yes

[runic hinge]

yeah i was bitching the whole time

[thorn thorn]

Do you have an issue with textures on your skin

[balmy condor]

depending on the textures, I have huge texture problems when I eat though

[thorn thorn]

Its an odd question but in general is there any texture for clothing or really just anything that you hate

[balmy condor]

like tomato slices?

holy hell

[thorn thorn]

I have news for you

[balmy condor]

fuck that

[thorn thorn]

[balmy condor]

they're so wet and floppy and shit

[runic hinge]

seafood is like

[balmy condor]

even diced tomatoes sometimes if they're not firm

like mushy tomatoes make me insta gag

[thorn thorn]

Issue with textures is occasionally a pretty clear indicator

For me its grease

[keen spruce]

Lil bit of salt on any tomato will save it

[thorn thorn]

I legit wig out if I get anything greasy on my skin in any capacity

[keen spruce]

Well not any

[thorn thorn]

This applies to grease from foods, lotions, aloe, etc

Hate it

[balmy condor]

I did this too

[keen spruce]

@runic hinge we played like shit 💩

[runic hinge]

im going to get bk for my dinner before the 8:20 tee off club championship, do you want anything

[balmy condor]

during marching band I would rather get a sunburn than put on sunscreen

[keen spruce]

I want a bacon king and a root beer plz

[runic hinge]

you got it boss

[keen spruce]

We shot -8 gross in a 4 man scramble

Tied for 10th

[thorn thorn]

I wash my hands profusely while cooking

[keen spruce]

🤮

[balmy condor]

but when you get the perfect skin peel from a sunburn bro

[thorn thorn]

Not cuz im a germaphobe

[balmy condor]

holy

what a great feeling

[thorn thorn]

But ill have a moment if I have oil on my hands for too long

[haughty flicker]

[thorn thorn]

Same actually

[balmy condor]

that doesn't bother me as much

but if it gets on a spoon

like the handle

then im triggered

on my hands is fine, but then holding a utensil with a wet/dirty handle

hell no

[thorn thorn]

Im actually the opposite

If utensil is greasy then fine but if it get stuck on hand then bad

Hate

[keen spruce]

I wish you’d handle me wet/dirty

[runic hinge]

Damn. We shot -7 with 3 20 handicaps lol

And a 6

[keen spruce]

We did make eagle net albatross on 1

And eagled a par 5 on the back

But just so many pars

We couldn’t make a putt to save our lives

[umbral sierra]

ight lads im 400 ilvl on this fresh toon, do i just do the campaign again then spam dungeons?

[balmy condor]

what about the stack of unorganized junk on your desk that looks like a disaster you know where stuff is and then someone cleans it up for you and you have no idea where to find anything anymore

[thorn thorn]

[balmy condor]

can probably dip into some world content first like the arathi thing

[thorn thorn]

My boss constantly organizes my desk for me and im just

Can u not pls

You have ruined me

[balmy condor]

my dad cleaned my desk up for me like a year ago and I still haven't found some of the stuff

[haughty flicker]

what about the stack of unorganized junk on your desk that looks like a disaster and actually is a disaster but you cant muster the willpower to clean it and even when you do it instantly comes back and whats the point

[balmy condor]

true

my cat was laying down on a stack of paper

and pushed some stuff around when he was stretching

and I just got profusely angry

even though he didn't actually mess anything up

[thorn thorn]

dont move my stuff

[balmy condor]

but he just pushed stuff around a couple inches and I'm like STOP TOUCHING MY SHIT JUST LAY THERE

[umbral sierra]

just spam the event for adventure gear?

[haughty flicker]

one of my cats has suddenly taken up the habit of launching herself at me and clawing her way up to sit on my shoulders

not the most fun

[balmy condor]

yeh

[knotty stratus]

If you have a little gold can always check the ah to jump up to 640ilvl to make world quests easier.

[onyx coyote]

had a cat that used to do tht only to bald people he liked to land on their heads.

[balmy condor]

[onyx coyote]

he did not realzie he was a quite large mainecoon kitten

[runic hinge]

Heard you’re bald

[balmy condor]

"please wear a wig around the house"

[haughty flicker]

[keen spruce]

I wish you’d stack your unorganized junk on my disaster

[balmy condor]

bro shut up

[keen spruce]

[nova aspen]

[weary spear]

What’s your characters name and realm so I can see for myself

[halcyon saddle]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[knotty stratus]

Do y'all think rogues are getting a super special buff that needed a lil more time in the oven?

[haughty flicker]

[balmy condor]

we're already strong

what more do you want

more strongerer?

[wise socket]

we dont look strong on sims

[round harbor]

DIGSBBAWTDHYMMTMIIWFTLGTWHTMDAFIWFSTAIGSBBAWTDHYSIJGTSTWFTILWIBTALOBTITWDLFSDHNSYEBISFIDHNTFCDHNLGPNALOMDHBBAWDHYHYBHYBBBAFWDHY

[balmy condor]

cool

don't really care

but that's neat I guess

[wise socket]

but yeah fight design matters

[balmy condor]

we've been below average on sim charts for like an expac and a half now

and then we end up being strong

cause sims aren't the game

[wise socket]

yeah i know as i said fight design matters

[balmy condor]

and then every cycle people go

"but the sims"

[fallow canopy]

but the sims

[balmy condor]

yeh

but the sims bro

[knotty stratus]

It's me I'm people

[bronze marsh]

Won’t someone please think of the sims

[balmy condor]

oppressively OP in amirdrassil, required 3 seperate nerfs to get assa balanced again and they killed kingsbane as a result of that tier

we were simming lower third that season btw

[fallow canopy]

poor sims no one ever asks how are the sims feeling

[knotty stratus]

Honestly just saw how rogue is least played class and usually blizz whackamoles that

[wise socket]

start of that tier we were litterally the top simming spec

but that tier also had extreamly good timers for assa

[knotty stratus]

But that might mean full rework in midnight

[balmy condor]

for like legit 1 week before the season started and they buffed a bunch of specs, yes

by the time prog happened and the first like 2-3 tuning passes we weren't anywhere near the top

[bronze marsh]

Plz no full rework just fix weird things

[balmy condor]

that might be the worst thing that could happen to rogue

[weary spear]

I hope they don’t change much tbh

[wise socket]

i just hope they change deathstalker since the mark is so buggy

[balmy condor]

yeh

[bronze marsh]

DS needs Jesus

[weary spear]

Hero trees for sure

[balmy condor]

there's hero talent issues but like people who play rogue love rogue

[bronze marsh]

Esp from a sub perspective that tree is bbl cheeks

[fallow canopy]

Maybe FB doesnt deliver doom unto itself

[balmy condor]

and people that don't play rogue don't get how braindead it is lately

idk

[wise socket]

the base class is so good right now just fix hero talents

[balmy condor]

the community still thinks rogue is some gigabrain infinity work for no dps class

while I'm spamming mut mut env for 5 minutes straight

[weary spear]

Outlaw is lmao

[fallow canopy]

that's good tho, that way people don't notice how braindead I am

[bronze marsh]

Pretty sure Dust scared people away from sub perma

Now they see three symbols two dance and Xbox 360 on outta there

[haughty flicker]

best kyveza pull?

[knotty stratus]

Sub scares me but outlaw makes funny dice noises so it's cool

[bronze marsh]

55% but I only did like five or six pulls today

[runic hinge]

Seal fate and deal fate means that might just be one mut now

[bronze marsh]

Imma sit on it tomorrow tho

[haughty flicker]

i got to 48 and started getting my shit beat in on assa

i think i go sub

[bronze marsh]

Sub is really tanky so I’ve been playing that

[balmy condor]

huge

[bronze marsh]

Just gotta be mindful of when you dance bc you drop threat and she can beeline brann and fuck stuff up

[haughty flicker]

lmao

[worn plinth]

How is sub tankier?

[chilly marsh]

quick question they nerfed CT dmg right? you still use it on ST?

[bronze marsh]

Bigger pp

[haughty flicker]

massive pp

[bronze marsh]

Yuuuuuge pp

5% DR with Fazed up, 10% DR during dance

vers stacking

[wise socket]

sim stil uses it with bleed build atleast so i asume so

[marsh fjord]

in the bleed build you still use it on ST yes

[chilly marsh]

ty

[spiral orchid]

Tier piece at 636 ilvl or non tier at 655? I could replace all my tier for that ilvl difference. But not sure it’s worth it for 20 ilvl

[marsh fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/sim-simulate-gif-8199108223823847654

[waxen oyster]

brother 655

go replace that

[thorn thorn]

An understatement

DS is ass to play and Fatebound is

Fatebound

Like yes I sure do love when mark disappears

[tall girder]

is there a best race for sin

[balmy condor]

the one you think is pretty

[thorn thorn]

The answer is drac because Glide is op racial

[bronze marsh]

I see your point and raise you literally any other race

[haughty flicker]

not as op as velf reduced transmog cost

[thorn thorn]

But do they have glide

Probably not

[bronze marsh]

just shadowstep something alive near where you wanna land

turnip otherwise

[thorn thorn]

Or just glide

[waxen oyster]

In all honesty it barely matters

[thorn thorn]

Correct

[waxen oyster]

Probably maghar for pure dps

or human if fatebound

difference is so tiny

[whole mason]

That is a very different topic about "the least played" since rogue is so centralized to its stealth feature now and not everyone is a fan to stealth while blizz has a problem to its code of stealth also; on the number side, rogue's TC work has been one of the most complicated and sophisticated due to diligent and enthusiastic players, which makes it difficult for people to reroll in.

[waxen oyster]

i leveled my pally for the sake of using the exp buff

and holy fuck is this class braindead

[thorn thorn]

[whole mason]

not just pally, blueface is the same

[waxen oyster]

tf is blueface

[thorn thorn]

Im gonna guess either mage or shaman

[haughty flicker]

can you say that in a public discord

[bronze marsh]

was gonna say Moroes is gonna come in hot

[whole mason]

oh, i'm just talking about the icon

[balmy condor]

BLUEFACE

[thorn thorn]

Ok im clearly stupid cuz I still dont get it

[bronze marsh]

is that fdk lol

[whole mason]

so fdk then

[bronze marsh]

bc it is just colder ret now

[whole mason]

my bad

if it is not okay to say that in public channel

[balmy condor]

nah it's fine

but it's hilarious

I'm calling my fdk that from now on

new slur unlocked

[waxen oyster]

dk annoys me

how does anyone die

[thorn thorn]

OH Its fdk

thats incredible

[bronze marsh]

its so 'streamlined' that I literally have four offensive cd's to track in my WA pack

[waxen oyster]

From what i saw they play 2h now

[whole mason]

com'on, blueface, greenface, and well redface is the tank

[bronze marsh]

yeah 2h breath

[waxen oyster]

boomers trying to rp as arthas

achieved

[waxen oyster]

fake breath

redesigned to

[hexed root]

it's over everyone reroll

https://tenor.com/view/sensible-chuckle-gif-3532650

[waxen oyster]

Those are numbers

good thing i cant read

[bronze marsh]

I see DS sub even on the list, def a based and useful infographic

[proven willow]

sub rogue deathstalker

lockin boys

[waxen oyster]

Honestly if you want to be op

just play mage

they’re never not the best

or close to

[balmy condor]

[bronze marsh]

if you ever wanna be just completely annoyed for a full fight play ds sub

[balmy condor]

whatcha talkin about

nothing there

[haughty flicker]

[hexed root]

it's cause he blocked me

lmfaooooo

[bronze marsh]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1106224572811984956/1400111973571625000/Whispyr.gif

[balmy condor]

my eyes have been saved

[tall girder]

can you link the whole spreadsheet by chance ?

[hexed root]

i dont have it

[balmy condor]

deathstalker sub shall not blind me

[bronze marsh]

"lets make a tier set that makes conflicting finisher priorities the major gameplay mechanic"

[waxen oyster]

Real talk why do people even bother comparing different classes

we exist to be atrophic bots anyway

time to sandbag for buffs

[bronze marsh]

because they got tired of trying to jam the square peg in the roung hole

[waxen oyster]

[hexed root]

depends what you're after in the game, 2mil difference feels rough from top to bottom

some poeple wanna do big damn

some just wanna vibe

[waxen oyster]

ok play mage bucko

[hexed root]

people gonna compare shit

[hexed root]

let people have fun bucko

[thorn thorn]

Yo thats crazy we see the same thing

[balmy condor]

wow has a long-standing problem of giving players access to way too much information and it makes the community brainrotted into trying to distill down a mathematical solution to every problem that could ever exist

[waxen oyster]

its almost like

bad players stress sims so much

[bronze marsh]

quantify deez nuts

[hexed root]

aw caustic blocked me too lmfao

[thorn thorn]

Even problems that shouldnt exist too

[waxen oyster]

im glad the sweaty crest grinders in my guild when turboboost dropped

were our worst dps

so it didnt make a difference

[balmy condor]

the more someone TC's the less they give a shit about sims, common trend

[waxen oyster]

Nah outlaw tier trust

the sims have spoken

[bronze marsh]

the trick is to be in a guild that chooses mains based on Tettles tier lists

[balmy condor]

that's crazy work

[waxen oyster]

Im gonna be honest

anytime i’ve watched tettles stream

[bronze marsh]

another was gonna go fdk but said no bc they have too many pillar macros now

[waxen oyster]

hes competing with the tanks on details

[balmy condor]

????????

[waxen oyster]

might have caught him at a bad time

[bronze marsh]

yep

[balmy condor]

who are these people

[waxen oyster]

but its weird it happened every time

[balmy condor]

nvm don't answer that

I know people that ping me about PTR sims

[proven willow]

ong 5 is crazy work

[balmy condor]

I know exactly who these people are

[waxen oyster]

make ptr sims but paywall them behind patreon

and half ass them last minute

[thorn thorn]

@balmy condor Where 12.0 ptr sims

[waxen oyster]

[thorn thorn]

[balmy condor]

[hexed root]

facts

[bronze marsh]

my favorite is when I see the Izen Heart sheets in guild discord

[strange whale]

Hi, what is the best spec for each content (dungeon/raid) this season?

[hexed root]

outlaw will eventually not be sim bait

[balmy condor]

realisitically the one you play the best

[waxen oyster]

it alwats will be

[balmy condor]

most people are prepping sin/sub

[waxen oyster]

99% of players cant play outlaw

[bronze marsh]

which is the right choice bc outlaw stinky

[waxen oyster]

to its sim capability

[strange whale]

It's my first time playing rogue, haha, and I want to focus on one spec.

[bronze marsh]

crackshot sucks and I refuse to play outlaw while its central

[hexed root]

sin probably best for m+ and raid, but you're doing different "specs" based on the content and boss

[waxen oyster]

sub in keys is self harm

with most tanks

[hexed root]

hated it in s2 lmao

[humble verge]

who is tettles

[hexed root]

stressed myself out trying to do anything relevant on sub during s2

[waxen oyster]

its playable in theater

[humble verge]

@balmy condor may i recommend u a song

[balmy condor]

sure

[humble verge]

u wont understand it all, but its a local jammer https://open.spotify.com/track/3vuSE6FZZBBMEJKe86IHNZ?si=5AbImmibTxOSlTIbdgZGMw

[hexed root]

send him a love song for me

[waxen oyster]

Most pulls are aight in theater for sub

you just sent on cd

[haughty flicker]

is this like

[balmy condor]

that's okay I don't understand anything anyway

[haughty flicker]

ok first is it danish or swedish before i offend someone

[humble verge]

well

its closer to danish

[balmy condor]

this is ass what is this

[humble verge]

cause of the dialect

[haughty flicker]

ok why does it sound like danish ccr

[humble verge]

we hate people from the north

well

[hexed root]

needs more punkrocker

[humble verge]

northern part of the county

[haughty flicker]

real

i love bigotry

[fallow canopy]

amen

[balmy condor]

this is like some nordic hillbilly shit

[thorn thorn]

Yes this is the assassination chat

[balmy condor]

my grandparents would love this

[humble verge]

pretty much

[haughty flicker]

[humble verge]

its like

[balmy condor]

yeh thanks, if this fucks up my algorithm I'll choke you to death

[waxen oyster]

my grandparents if they saw uber’s pfp

jk

[balmy condor]

you're banned from the aux

[haughty flicker]

[humble verge]

close to folkrock

maybe

[haughty flicker]

i have a good song for mr whispyr

[waxen oyster]

Whispyr what are you gonna do if someone plays imagine dragons on the aux

[humble verge]

imagine these nuts in ur mauf

[thorn thorn]

What the hell is this

[waxen oyster]

fury winor herald

is this a new class

[balmy condor]

terrified

[hexed root]

@humble verge can I recommend you a song

[humble verge]

ok but actual song recommendation @balmy condor

https://open.spotify.com/track/2cSdAkzAf2T4j4aLvx4LLz?si=TpsyXDnjTZ-Bd8FkTzQ7kw

jammer

[humble verge]

yes

[balmy condor]

disco lines

[haughty flicker]

i dont have spotify app on my coputer to link

[hexed root]

https://youtu.be/_mkiGMtbrPM?list=RD_mkiGMtbrPM

[fallow canopy]

we lost like 0.2mm of ocean water for this

[balmy condor]

yes thank you I also have tiktok

[haughty flicker]

listen to pepper coyote's most played song on spotify

[humble verge]

i fucking remember when this came out lol

people went bomabisjswjak

[hexed root]

its how i vibe when i don't understand things

[balmy condor]

brother I am not clicking this

what the fuck

[humble verge]

https://open.spotify.com/track/4e5b6X3dTa1dFY0kVciLmw?si=ZkdTFPFxQQC60gTfd7H7iA

[balmy condor]

bro is this

[humble verge]

THIS IS GOATED

[balmy condor]

a fucking

[hexed root]

i dig it

[balmy condor]

furry folkrock band

[waxen oyster]

goat name

[humble verge]

no

[thorn thorn]

You are being sent to the fel hammer for this one playa

[hexed root]

https://youtu.be/jzMfNMhsRN8?list=RDjzMfNMhsRN8

[humble verge]

since u like kendrick whisp

https://open.spotify.com/track/0yX1VnMvtK1QNNHF3JQYMP?si=dj-5HPZ-RpOya-zhyuGMqw

[waxen oyster]

last i heard fel hammer is just

gamer words on cd

[balmy condor]

nah

they cleaned up significantly

now it's just idiots

basically just every class discord

[humble verge]

so, copies of ne

me

[marsh fjord]

almost 200 pulls in ky'veza

[haughty flicker]

[marsh fjord]

help

[thorn thorn]

The delve kyveza?

[marsh fjord]

yes

the ??

version

[marsh fjord]

it's hard af btw

[hexed root]

give me a genre and I'll give you a banger song

[balmy condor]

you realize you don't have to do it this week right

you can just

not do it

[marsh fjord]

Yeah

but thats

no fun

[humble verge]

futuristic folk rave

[manic prism]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[hexed root]

ironic coming from whispyr

[thorn thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/nehuyaneponyal-gif-15660627897541399471

[balmy condor]

200 pulls on a delve boss doesn't particularly sound fun either

[marsh fjord]

im actually having fun

[balmy condor]

more power to you then

[marsh fjord]

with my zero viewers on stream

[hexed root]

interesting, okay.

[winged sun]

Is it now

[haughty flicker]

classic

[marsh fjord]

Yeah the challenge is quite hard yes

[winged sun]

Interesting might login and nuke that shit

[thorn thorn]

Brother you couldnt pay me to wipe 200 times to a delve boss

[marsh fjord]

i bet you 3 million gold you dont do it in 50 pulls

[fallow canopy]

now its getting interesting

[thorn thorn]

I think you are losing that bet

[winged sun]

ur underestimating me cuh

[bronze marsh]

90% of the difficulty is just facing the dashes in time

[marsh fjord]

login then broski

[hexed root]

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=Lo6O4klwlDY&si=dE94FbjOnG9-DOZU folk and rave are kind of contracting but I think this fits

[winged sun]

Get that gold ready later

[kindred breach]

drinking night with friends just ended

[marsh fjord]

3 million is pocket change brudda

[bronze marsh]

if you get a weird sequence/positioning

[kindred breach]

i drank red bull in my drink so kinda wired

[marsh fjord]

why do you think they call me numbers

i got those numbers

[kindred breach]

gonna spam the side quests

before sleep

[bronze marsh]

pretty sure people call you numbers bc you call you numbers

[hexed root]

inzo might be a little more "folk" I guess when I think "folk rave" i'm thinking trance to an extent: https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=H2YfBAVbrsY&si=GHpPZBYliViDZI7X

[marsh fjord]

nope

[humble verge]

cooked

[haughty flicker]

you might be on to something

[waxen oyster]

azor with the words of wisdom

[winged sun]

I saw the fight on twitch abit and friends on stream, it didnt take friends of mine an astonishing 200 pulls

[hexed root]

https://tenor.com/view/obama-finger-guns-happy-fingerpoints-gif-5118627

[marsh fjord]

Why are you dick riding your friends

[hexed root]

I like a lot of music except for stadium country o7

[bronze marsh]

I got it her to about half health in less than 10 pulls, its really not that insane

[marsh fjord]

mister i play fatebound in m+

[winged sun]

[marsh fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/got-him-gif-5199511

[kindred breach]

https://tenor.com/view/they-had-us-in-the-first-half-not-gonna-lie-gif-13620240

[hexed root]

zeross gets a pass

[bronze marsh]

mafic pilled ahhhh

[balmy condor]

the hell is he cooking

[marsh fjord]

nobody gets a pass playing fatebound in m+

[hexed root]

eh if zeross puts up results, which last I saw dude was, hard to criticize

[winged sun]

The only build is bleed build anything else is cooked

We tested everything almost

We’ll see how things turn out on live m+

[marsh fjord]

You put to much faith into him lol

[knotty stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/leprechaun-bless-you-gif-22062907

[hexed root]

i have zero faith in him

but i also know i can't do what he does

im not saying people should listen to him, but he's a solid rogue

[marsh fjord]

Never said he wasnt 😄

[hexed root]

fair, thats what I meant when he gets a pass

[naive crescent]

https://tenor.com/view/hes-here-now-kyle-broflovski-south-park-s13e10-wtf-gif-22807076

[thorn thorn]

Last I checked Zeross is a yellow name so clearly his advice about Sin is irrelevant

[kindred breach]

Casual outlaw bashing

[hexed root]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-we-one-gif-18212100

[haughty flicker]

yellow names

[kindred breach]

thats my discord

[thorn thorn]

I bash sub and outlaw

Equal opportunity hater

[kindred breach]

Gotta respect the comitment

sub is a real spec though

not a ADHD degenerate thing

[waxen oyster]

jb tweets sometimes

[thorn thorn]

Because I cant actually think of anything on that level to describe sub I have to concede and say you are right

[thorn thorn]

He kinda right tho

[kindred breach]

I actually main assa

in my heart

but i cant find a fkin way to change my color

it just put subs ahead of the others

[waxen oyster]

sub is like

[bright tartan]

[waxen oyster]

you have to be cool with you dont do much

70/90 seconds

🤣

[kindred breach]

Yeah and thats lame tbh

[bronze marsh]

nah it owns

[kindred breach]

Though sin is like

U send an evenom

[waxen oyster]

nah wod sub was like

[kindred breach]

and wait next season to send the next

[waxen oyster]

10/60 you did something

[hexed root]

test

[thorn thorn]

Sin was last fun when KB did damage

[hexed root]

guess you have to uncheck the 3 options if you want to be sin color

[kindred breach]

begining of S3 DF..................................

[hexed root]

test

[waxen oyster]

Yeah then you got parried on kb

[hexed root]

yea, just have to not select the other roles if you want a red name i guess

[wise socket]

thx god thats no longer a thing

[waxen oyster]

nah its thematic

clearly

:))

[thorn thorn]

Sin has experienced a shift in fun that is directly related to the power of KB. In this essay I will....

[hexed root]

https://tenor.com/view/fallout-on-prime-fallout-prime-video-bethesda-maximus-gif-341377901427165611

[distant fog]

[kindred oriole]

!sheet

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[winged sun]

Time to swap to bm hunter

Doubling everyone’s dmg in m+

[haughty flicker]

might be doing the bug abuse

gg unethical hunters

[thorn thorn]

Are they playing the nomulti build

[winged sun]

Idk

Didn’t login wow all week is the cloak annoying or same as pgr

Ptr

[thorn thorn]

You gotta do campaign to get it

Then after can do skip on alts but gotta talk to some npc to get it

[marsh fjord]

npc is on the small island in the middle

same where you get the cloak upgrades

[winged sun]

Ok will prob do it later gonna taie a nap

[marsh fjord]

bailing on the challenge

smh

[winged sun]

Its 7 am

[marsh fjord]

Yeah hop on bro

time to login

[winged sun]

What do u want me to chug 3 redbulls now or what

Nah cba rn maybe later at night

[marsh fjord]

yes

goodnight brother

have a nice nap

[winged sun]

Gn gn

Ty

[distant fog]

@winged sun give kiss

Muah

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kiss-cock-mrekk-vaxei-whitefcat-gif-20435871

[winged sun]

https://tenor.com/view/smiling-cat-happy-cat-smile-gif-3555983607747631247

https://tenor.com/view/cat-water-gif-19744162

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1255110288081162311/1318256041112109106/catnum-cat-nom.gif

[keen spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/duck-ducks-confused-surprised-what-gif-1845535727828628932

[distant fog]

Hey duck

[weary spear]

Any of you guys pug title before

I wanna know how you don’t get burnt out of LFG and the dungeon pool after 2 months

[distant fog]

The higher you go

The smaller the pool of players

Thenpeople signing for a 18 key are like 4

Everybody knows everybody in high mmr pools

[weary spear]

Yeah I more mean the burnout not the viability of doing it

[distant fog]

Dunno dopamine

I get burnt out of the game by raiding aline

Alone

[strange tundra]

WTF IS THAT UI

[runic hinge]

the internet is a funny place because i remember all the bitching about kb being strong and the tail-ends crits determining your parse more than anything

[balmy condor]

bro my guildie got a fucking cloak from nightfall

GOOD ONE

[thorn thorn]

Those people are shitters

Just crit

[kindred breach]

nice one

[thorn thorn]

Its that shrimple

[kindred breach]

we did it boyz

all clean

time to get some sleep

[hexed root]

Gjgj

[rotund oak]

https://tenor.com/qVE4JJb1TGm.gif

[lone junco]

during the opener, Im trying to hit 7cp for the first envenom, but landing on 6 alot. We just Mut there?

[marsh fjord]

Are you playing DS?

or FB

[lone junco]

ds

[marsh fjord]

it's a small gain to FOK instead of mut

if you land on 6

[lone junco]

guess that makes sense. feels weird. Probably goes away with high crit though.

I bet keys where you cant restealth get annoying.

that ambush is a big deal.

[marsh fjord]

Stealth is not that important

!restealth

or whatever the command is

!stealth

[lone junco]

all good.

[kindred breach]

got twice the exact same dagger

[lone junco]

I believe you today. will know more after a few keys.

[kindred breach]

in weekly quest chests

do i delete char right now

[shy creek]

Stealth in high keys doesn't really feel that bad

Not being able to restealth*

[kindred breach]

bis stats though

[shy creek]

But if you do lose your deathstalker's mark in a key with long chain pulls, consider your damage dead if you have no vanish

[kindred breach]

dont mind the french

[lone junco]

hard swapped back to rog main for a season. the build plays pretty smooth.

[raw marlin]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[balmy condor]

I love my stylet dore de paria du desert

[runic hinge]

!chainpull

[prisma monolith]

Explanation of why stealth benefits aren't as important as you might think:

• For starters, "Chain pulls" are NOT when the tank pulls a new pack with 1% hp remaining on the previous mobs. That is called "Bad Tanking", and it sucks for everyone in your party.
• Correct Chain pulls usually happen while the previous pack is still alive and not dangerous. This increases uptime on more targets, which is the biggest increase in DPS for the entire party. This is also the biggest reason why you see high key level players doing so much damage.
• Garrote is roughly 7-9% of people's damage in a key, most of which is already empowered/cleaved
• Most energy spreading will come from Rupture to maintain scent of blood, not garrote
• Without a Trace (+1 vanish charge) only grants roughly 2 additional casts across a whole dungeon, but does allow for holding vanish for large chain pulls which improves the quality of each vanish
• You can argue that it "feels bad", but numerically there is very little ground to stand on, the dps simply isn't there.

[lone junco]

its the bad tanking line for me.

thanks

[runic hinge]

Np

[rotund oak]

🥖 🥖 🥐 🥐

[marsh fjord]

i never pulled a boss over 8 hours but i geuss its true what people say. that if you keep chain pulling you just keep playing worse

[dapper cradle]

thought ur pfp was baryon mode naruto

i'm cooked man

[marsh fjord]

Nah it's a refrence to my real name

[dapper cradle]

giovanni?

[marsh fjord]

Yeah

[dapper cradle]

nice man that's a dope name

[marsh fjord]

Thanks Thanks

[rotund oak]

8 hours

whats wrong with u ppl

[marsh fjord]

no idea

butg i find this boss super fun

and it also gives me a good way of practicing fatebound

[covert jewel]

do u mean in a row ?

[marsh fjord]

yeah

[covert jewel]

ye thats nuts

[marsh fjord]

i had 323 tempered potions left when i started

[dapper cradle]

[marsh fjord]

so around 200 pulls i think now

😄

[rotund oak]

yup that boss is kicking ur asses

[marsh fjord]

The sad thing is i almost had her

at 8% i vanished for double coin

with CB

and she dissapeared

[covert jewel]

[rotund oak]

[covert jewel]

vanish and solo content

[marsh fjord]

Yeah it's super cooked 😄

[covert jewel]

casual stuff

[rotund oak]

ah so its the delve boss

makes sense now

still crazy u doing 8 hours str8

[marsh fjord]

Imagine having a cooldown and then the boss can dissapear if you use that 💀

[dapper halo]

hmm, all m0s burned, got one dinky trinket, crafted 691 weapon, got legerag at rank3, ilvl 680, all 8 delves done, i think im set to play on wednesday the next time, nothing else to do

[marsh fjord]

go pull the delve boss

[rotund oak]

This week is irrelevant,fun starts on reset

now its more like doing the scenario quests n stuff

m0 gear is also irrelevant,doesnt even worth to enchant

[bright tartan]

bro has no gold

[lone junco]

the blue cp are Max if you spend there right?

or did they change

oh they count as 2. thats weird

[rocky zodiac]

Did you Guys already decided which spec you'll Play in prog?

[balmy condor]

assa

[balmy condor]

they're just bonus on top of your next finisher yeah

[earnest remnant]

im straight SHOCKETH!

never saw that one comin

[dapper halo]

delve boss irrevelant

[rocky zodiac]

Whispyr playing Assa is so shocking. Next time you are saying Hachi plays sub

[waxen oyster]

they both are fine

[earnest remnant]

no

[balmy condor]

impossible

[earnest remnant]

they aint dk's so they suck

[rocky zodiac]

Reasons for the question is that my LC wants a priority for Tier pieces and trinkets from everyone. So i kinda need to decide to Tell them what to Play at the beginning. Ofc i can Switch but for the start i need to Tell them sth i guess xD

[earnest remnant]

it is what it is

[waxen oyster]

actually real

we exist for temu devo aura

[balmy condor]

super easy, tell them you're playing sub to get 4pc funneled

and then swap sin

[waxen oyster]

[rocky zodiac]

Middle to bottom of the Pack is not fine

[rocky zodiac]

Giga brain move

[waxen oyster]

idk we were bottom 1/3 amir launch

look how that turned out

[random jungle]

guys. i have a bug with my bags. it happens sometimes, when i equip a new item, it turns grey and cant move it from bag. any ideas?

[marsh fjord]

Unistall the game

easy fix

[random jungle]

ty

[weary spear]

What’s middle to bottom of the pack

[rocky zodiac]

Was kinda a Joke because Sims cant be directly translated to Boss damage but from Sims rogue doesnt seem t be that good. But we'll see next week how that works Out in reality